WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #37

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<v Speaker 1>Also media.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, quite frankly, if you ever do anything on

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<v Speaker 2>accident that leads to a police officer falling over, even

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<v Speaker 2>if you had nothing to do with them falling over,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to leave. It's time to go, even if

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<v Speaker 2>all you did was make a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 3>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling

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<v Speaker 3>of our world, and what it means for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Garrison Davis today. I'm joined by James Stout, Mia Wong

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<v Speaker 3>and Robert Evans. This episode recovering the week of October

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<v Speaker 3>first to October eighth.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, baby, Brian, big deal day as yeah, October seventh,

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<v Speaker 4>eighth in history, the first week of October, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>October Gloctober.

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<v Speaker 2>California doesn't love a good glock.

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<v Speaker 5>Gavin Usome in the California Let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Javin Newsom doesn't love a good glock. I mean, honestly

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<v Speaker 2>So that I can carry a fucking H eighteen. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, stay hot by cool Zone dropping next week.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find them by tagging Robert on social media

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<v Speaker 4>at why Sophie.

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<v Speaker 2>Why We're finishing our twenty parts series. People have asked

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<v Speaker 2>for episodes on how to be a gun owner, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we're putting together a twenty part series on how

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<v Speaker 2>not to shoot your own penis off. So law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>officers in the audience you'll want to check that one out.

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<v Speaker 4>I just got a notification that Sophie had canceled ed,

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<v Speaker 4>which I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Is premire with still what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, Let's start because there's a lot of news

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<v Speaker 3>this week by talking about, frankly, the most important news

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<v Speaker 3>story in the whole nation right now. On Thursday, October second,

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<v Speaker 3>right wing influencer Nick Sorder along with two other people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's stupid. Oh, it's really stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>Along with two of the people, were arrested by the

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<v Speaker 3>Portland Police Bureau in connection with a fight outside of

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<v Speaker 3>the Ice Building during a protest. Sorder was provoking reactions

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<v Speaker 3>from protesters when he was then chased down the street

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<v Speaker 3>by a woman in a bird cost bird costume quote

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<v Speaker 3>swinging a large stick covered with.

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<v Speaker 5>Feathers rested by Big Bird.

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<v Speaker 3>According to court documents, the three people were arrested at

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<v Speaker 3>all charged with disorderly conduct, though sords charges have since

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<v Speaker 3>been dropped. Sordiers arrest ignited a right wing firestorm the

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<v Speaker 3>likes of which I have not seen since Early Kirk

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<v Speaker 3>was assassinated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad people are finally waking up to the ANTIFA

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<v Speaker 2>police department that rules Portland with an iron fist.

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<v Speaker 5>For a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Poole posted on x the Everything app. I'm calling

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<v Speaker 3>on the Trump administration to launch a legal challenge against

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<v Speaker 3>Oregon following the arrest of Nick Sorter and if necessary,

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<v Speaker 3>deployed National Guard Organs failed to uphold federal and state

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<v Speaker 3>law and we should not tolerate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and like Yeah, there was like a fight and

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<v Speaker 2>they detained people, and then the DA didn't press charges

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<v Speaker 2>against Sorter, and it's it's just it couldn't be more

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<v Speaker 2>of a nothing burger as an actual story.

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<v Speaker 6>Nothing than burger.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but oh boy, but not according to the AG's office,

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<v Speaker 3>who quickly responded on it to Tim Poole's request, and

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<v Speaker 3>by Friday morning, the White House, the Attorney General, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Justice Department announced a quote unquote full investigation into

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<v Speaker 3>the arrest and the conduct of the Portland Police Bureau. Finally,

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<v Speaker 3>conservative influencer Benny Johnson, who's been embedded with ICE this

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<v Speaker 3>past week, posted on x Everything app quote important news.

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<v Speaker 3>I spoke with DHS Secretary Christinome. She's been briefed on

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<v Speaker 3>the attack and arrest of journalists and Nick Sorder. Secretary

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<v Speaker 3>Nome tells me DHS will surge ICE resources in Portland.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote Antifa is a terrorist group and will not control

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<v Speaker 3>our streets unquote. Thank you, Secretary Nome. Benny Johnson later

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<v Speaker 3>shared video captioned breaking. DHS Secretary Christinome has announced that

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of War will deploy to Portland and Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>within twenty four hours to crush left wing violence unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>And here is the video with Christinome talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote Antifa affiliated anti ICE protests.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you've got a presence in Portland as that is

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<v Speaker 7>Antifa affiliated, and so that is a situation where you

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<v Speaker 7>have known professionals targeted violence that want to tear down

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<v Speaker 7>America and while will apparently attack anyone, even journalists, they're

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<v Speaker 7>just trying to report the truth of what's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>On the streets.

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<v Speaker 7>So we're not just going to be rolling out of

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<v Speaker 7>Chicago here, but we're sending in the Department of War

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<v Speaker 7>at the request that I made to Secretary Headset, they're

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<v Speaker 7>going to be rolling in here within the next twenty

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<v Speaker 7>four hours. They'll be coming to Chicago to I put

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<v Speaker 7>a request in today for them to come to Chicago,

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<v Speaker 7>and we're going to not only have our officers that

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<v Speaker 7>are out there with HSI and space, but we're also

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<v Speaker 7>going to have backup from our military, because everybody deserves that.

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<v Speaker 7>And so what we saw happened to that journalist last

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<v Speaker 7>night will not happen again.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, Benny Johnson showing a very professional journalism there

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<v Speaker 4>by just saying wow a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a pretty wild scene. Having like troops walk behind

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<v Speaker 3>Christy nome as this podcast or Grills Grills are on

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<v Speaker 3>sending the military to cities in front of a back cat.

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<v Speaker 3>The reactions from the right after Nick Sorterer's arrest we're

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<v Speaker 3>pretty wild, with journalists going on Fox News claiming that

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<v Speaker 3>the Portland Police are affiliated with Antifa, and popular right

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<v Speaker 3>wing influencers on X like amuse saying, quote, the Portland

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<v Speaker 3>Police are now colluding with Antifa to prosecute federal officers

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<v Speaker 3>protecting the ICE facility.

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<v Speaker 2>When has that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Each time federal officers engage with Antifa, Portland Police liaisons

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<v Speaker 3>clutch statements and videos from Antifa to facilitate state criminal

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<v Speaker 3>charges against DHS. So somehow, in the year of Our

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<v Speaker 3>Lord twenty twenty five, the Portland Police Bureau is now Antifa,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a truly miraculous state of affairs. After his

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<v Speaker 3>release Friday morning, next Order posted on X quote, You've

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<v Speaker 3>proved what we've all been saying for years. You're corrupt

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<v Speaker 3>and controlled by violent Antifa thugs who terrorize the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>Referring to the Portland Police. I have been in direct

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<v Speaker 3>contact with top officials at DHS. What's coming in Portland

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<v Speaker 3>is unprecedented thanks to Portland police exposing themselves by arresting journalists.

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<v Speaker 3>Great work, Portland, unquote. A day later, on October fourth,

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<v Speaker 3>a Trump appointed federal judge granted the state of Oregon

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<v Speaker 3>and the City of Portland a temporary restraining order blocking

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<v Speaker 3>trumpenheag'sas federalization and deployment of two hundred organ National Guard

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<v Speaker 3>against the wishes of Oregon Governor Tina Kotec. The judge

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<v Speaker 3>found that existing local and federal law enforcement were sufficient

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<v Speaker 3>to police protests, that the Trump admin had mischaracterized the

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<v Speaker 3>reality of the current protests outside of the ice facility,

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<v Speaker 3>and that violence against ICE in other parts of the

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<v Speaker 3>country is not sufficient justification for a local military deployment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth noting this judge, Judge Immergant, number one, not

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<v Speaker 2>a woke judge, was literally, if you go back and

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<v Speaker 2>you watch the Monica Lewinsky hearings or the I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the Clinton sex scandal hearings, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>the part of it in which Lewinsky was being grilled.

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<v Speaker 2>Immigrant was the female lawyer that they brought out to

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<v Speaker 2>be incredibly cruel to Monica Lewinsky Because it wouldn't look

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<v Speaker 2>as often putting and wound up.

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<v Speaker 8>She wound up.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of why Monica Lewinsky became so is she immigrant

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<v Speaker 2>looked fucking nuts and immigrant is the person who is

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it, who is going through all of the

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<v Speaker 2>claims made by the administration and going there's literally not

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<v Speaker 2>only is there no justification for the deployment of troops

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<v Speaker 2>in Portland, but everyone calling the shots at FPS and

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<v Speaker 2>Ice is like, everything's under control, we have no need

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<v Speaker 2>for additional people. Yeah, there's no real danger here. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not a leftist judge. This is not a

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<v Speaker 2>judge with a political act to grind. This is a judge.

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<v Speaker 2>But thirty years ago you would have called a far

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<v Speaker 2>right extremist.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I will quote a little bit from her ruling here.

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<v Speaker 6>Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>To accept the defendant's arguments, that's the federal's government would

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<v Speaker 3>be to render meaningless the extraordinary requirements of ten USC

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<v Speaker 3>one two four six by allowing the presidents to federalize

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<v Speaker 3>one states National Guard based on the events in a

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<v Speaker 3>different state or mere speculation about future events. In other words,

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<v Speaker 3>violence elsewhere cannot support troop deployments here, and concern about

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<v Speaker 3>hypothetical future conduct does not demonstrate a present inability to

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<v Speaker 3>execute the laws using non military federal law enforcement quote.

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<v Speaker 3>On the Trump Admin's argument that the presidents authorized to

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<v Speaker 3>federalize state National Guard in the case of rebellion or invasion,

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<v Speaker 3>the judge concluded that the legal definition of rebellion requires quote. First,

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<v Speaker 3>a rebellion must not only be violent, but also armed. Second,

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<v Speaker 3>a rebellion must be organized. Third, a rebellion must be

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<v Speaker 3>open and avowed. Fourth, rebellion must be against the government

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<v Speaker 3>as a whole, often with the aim of overthrowing the government,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than in opposition to a single law or issue. Here,

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<v Speaker 3>the protests in Portland were not a rebellion and did

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<v Speaker 3>not pose a danger of rebellion, especially in the days

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<v Speaker 3>leading up to the federalization. The judge found that the

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<v Speaker 3>president's federalization of the organ National Guard without proper statutory

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<v Speaker 3>authority under ten USC. One two four h six, exceeded

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<v Speaker 3>the president's constitutional authority, undermined organs sovereignty, and violated the

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<v Speaker 3>Tenth Amendment by infringing on organ's constitutional power to control

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<v Speaker 3>its own national guard, writing that the Trump admin Quote

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<v Speaker 3>interfered with the constitutional balance of power between the federal

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<v Speaker 3>and state governments.

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<v Speaker 6>Unquote Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the one where she she said their argument

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<v Speaker 4>was untethered from the facts. Yeah, Yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>was a pretty good, uh good summary of what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on here.

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<v Speaker 3>Later that day, Stephen Miller went on News Nation to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the quote unquote insurrectionists interesting word in Portland

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<v Speaker 3>and the new National Security Presidential memorandum to investigate dismantle

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<v Speaker 3>so called left wing terrorist networks.

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<v Speaker 9>We're the federal government. We are not going to tolerate

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<v Speaker 9>a lawless insurrection. We're not going to tolerate domestic terrorism.

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<v Speaker 9>And we are going after the Antifa rioters, thests, the

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<v Speaker 9>violent assaulters, and we are not only going after them,

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<v Speaker 9>we are going after their network. We are going after

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<v Speaker 9>their funders. Every time we make an arrest, we are

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<v Speaker 9>initiating an investigation into the.

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<v Speaker 5>Entire domestic terrorist network.

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<v Speaker 9>The President issued a National Security Presidential Memorandum in NSPN

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<v Speaker 9>making clear that it is the national security priority of

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<v Speaker 9>United States law enforcement to dismantle, disrupt, defeat, and destroy

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<v Speaker 9>these domestic terror networks. And that is exactly what is

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<v Speaker 9>taking place. It is what we are doing, it is

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<v Speaker 9>what will happen.

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<v Speaker 3>His use of the word insurrection, there is important. A

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<v Speaker 3>day later, President Trump also used the term insurrectionists to

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<v Speaker 3>describe protests in Portland and complained about the federal judge

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<v Speaker 3>who blocked the deployment of National Guard, saying, quote, Portland

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<v Speaker 3>is burning to the ground. You have agitators, insurrectionists. All

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta do is look at the television. It's burning

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<v Speaker 3>to the ground. The governor, the mayor, the politicians are

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<v Speaker 3>petrified for their lives. That judge ought to be a shamed.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, nothing's been burnt down. Nothing was burnt down

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty. Most of the big nights that I

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<v Speaker 2>slately have been maybe two hundred people. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>had some more on a few occasions, but like it's

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<v Speaker 2>usually a lot less. It's probably just unnecessary for me

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<v Speaker 2>to correct all this, but I guess I can't fight

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<v Speaker 2>the urge to be like, none of this is accurate

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<v Speaker 2>to what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the simulation is more important than the reality.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Miller's done this before, right, Like he kind of likes

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<v Speaker 4>to use these words that exist in legislation and sort

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<v Speaker 4>of in point to the direction he wants things to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, yeah, like he did this by calling anti

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<v Speaker 4>for an enterprise. We sort as to an extent with

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<v Speaker 4>Title forty two and his reference to migrants to the

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<v Speaker 4>public health threat. This is kind of a trademark move

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<v Speaker 4>for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost now, hours after the federal judge blocked the federalization

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<v Speaker 3>of Oregon National Guard, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth ordered

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred California National Guard to be deployed to Portland.

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<v Speaker 3>In the next day, he Texas Governor Greg Abbott authorized

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred Texas National Guard to be sent to Orgon

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<v Speaker 3>and Illinois in coordination with the Department of War. On

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday night, the federal judge that previously blocked the organ

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<v Speaker 3>National Guard federalization made another ruling blocking the deployment of

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<v Speaker 3>troops from California and Texas, finding that it was quote,

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<v Speaker 3>in direct contravention of her earlier tro This secondary toro

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<v Speaker 3>halted any federalization relocation or deployment of any Guard members

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<v Speaker 3>to organ from any state. The Trump administration has appealed

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<v Speaker 3>these rulings and oral arguments will be heard on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>October ninth in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Stephen

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<v Speaker 3>Miller called this ruling quote one of the most egregious

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<v Speaker 3>and thunderous violations of constitutional order we have ever seen,

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<v Speaker 3>and is yet the latest example of unceasing efforts to

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<v Speaker 3>nullify the twenty twenty fourth election by FIAT unquote. By Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>Miller told reporters, without going to specifics, that the present

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<v Speaker 3>quote has a very broad range and set of authorities

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to deploying federal assets.

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<v Speaker 6>Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>That same day, Monday, Trump discussed the possibility of invoking

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<v Speaker 3>the Insurrection Act in a White House press conference.

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<v Speaker 10>The Insurrection Act, Sir, what the Insurrection Act? Under what

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<v Speaker 10>conditions or terms would you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 11>I do it if it was necessary. So far it

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<v Speaker 11>hasn't been necessary. But we have an Insurrection Act for

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<v Speaker 11>a reason. If I had to enacted, I'd do that.

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<v Speaker 11>If people were being killed and courts were holding us up,

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<v Speaker 11>or governors or mayors were holding us up, Sure I

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<v Speaker 11>do that. I mean, I want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 11>people aren't killed. We have to make sure that our

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<v Speaker 11>cities are safe. And it's turning out, and we started

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<v Speaker 11>with DC it's been so successful. You look at what's

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<v Speaker 11>happened with Portland over the years. It's a burning hell hall.

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<v Speaker 11>And then you have a judge that lost a way

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<v Speaker 11>that tries to protec and that like there's no problem. Actually,

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<v Speaker 11>she's not even saying that there's a huge problem. Important.

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<v Speaker 11>I'll tell you what the problem is.

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<v Speaker 5>Crime.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, crime. There's a huge problem in Chicago. It's called crime.

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<v Speaker 11>And we want to put out the crime, and they

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<v Speaker 11>want to inflame the crime.

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<v Speaker 10>Oo booy.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, that's the clearest statement we've gotten from the President

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<v Speaker 3>on the conditions in which he would invoke the Insurrection Act.

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<v Speaker 3>I think specifically pointing towards governors, mayors, or courts that

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<v Speaker 3>prevent ice from completing immigration actions in those cities and counties.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and that's the thing that we've gotten from him.

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<v Speaker 10>That's the most specific indication of things that are happening

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<v Speaker 10>right now that could cause him to do it. We

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<v Speaker 10>still don't have a direct I'm going to do it,

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<v Speaker 10>but I think it's pretty clear from this that he

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<v Speaker 10>wants to these people in the circles I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 10>wanting to do it for a long time, and I

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<v Speaker 10>think this is in some ways the closest we've gotten

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<v Speaker 10>to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's why you have tole like Miller and

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<v Speaker 3>Trump himself using the word insurrection when describing what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>to establish a pretext to actually follow through on that

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<v Speaker 3>and declare the Insurrection Act when it suits them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's worth noting mellas doing. Miller is

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<v Speaker 4>often the originator of many of these kind of legal theories.

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<v Speaker 4>This one has made its way to Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to declare an ad break, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>will return to finish our reporting on war ravaged Portland. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we are back. DHS Secretary Christy Nome has made some

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<v Speaker 3>pretty fantastic claims about the nature of these protests and

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<v Speaker 3>the threats facing ICE agents, both in Chicago and Portland,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just gonna play her clip from Fox News

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<v Speaker 3>here talking about the threats to ICE.

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<v Speaker 7>Our intelligence indicates that these people are organized, They're getting

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<v Speaker 7>more and more people on their team as far as

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<v Speaker 7>attacking officers, and they're making plans to ambush them and

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<v Speaker 7>to kill them. We have specific officers and agents that

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<v Speaker 7>have bounties that have been put out on their heads.

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<v Speaker 7>It's been two thousand dollars to kidnap them, ten thousand

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<v Speaker 7>dollars to kill them. They've released their pictures, they've sent

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<v Speaker 7>them between their networks, and it's an extremely dangerous situation

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<v Speaker 7>and unprecedented. So we've put protective detail around those individuals,

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<v Speaker 7>change some of our operations to keep our officers safe.

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<v Speaker 7>But make no mistake, this isn't just about protesting free

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<v Speaker 7>speech or that they don't like that people out here

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<v Speaker 7>are upholding the law of our country. They're actually going

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<v Speaker 7>out there and saying, kill these people, and we'll give

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<v Speaker 7>you this much money to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's quite a specific claim, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>What she's doing there is conflating alleged cartel bounties on

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<v Speaker 3>ICE agents with protests happening out the site of ICE facilities,

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<v Speaker 3>making it sound like the protesters are putting ten thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars kill bounties on ICE officers.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, let me tell you, nobody who's out at ICE

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<v Speaker 2>right now has collectively ten grand to put towards a bounty.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 3>On Tuesday, October seventh, Christinom arrived in Portland, Oregon, along

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<v Speaker 3>with her conservative podcaster sidekick Benny Johnson, who has been

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<v Speaker 3>live streaming ICE operations in Chicago with NOME. Benny posted

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<v Speaker 3>on x everything app breaking DH Secretary Christinomes stares down

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<v Speaker 3>army of Antifa and a guy in a chicken suit

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<v Speaker 3>from the rooftop of the ice facility here in Portland.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally someone took that chicken guy down to size.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to play the video that I think one

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<v Speaker 3>of us should like set this stage for what we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 5>Sector.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you have a message to the protesters, especially the

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<v Speaker 10>man in the chicken outfit?

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<v Speaker 12>Man on the chicken out but I just see him,

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<v Speaker 12>no goodness, you could do better. Our goal is that

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<v Speaker 12>people would peacefully protest, but that we would still be.

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<v Speaker 7>Allowed to enforce the law in this country. Too bad

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<v Speaker 7>the uneducated and niliform.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at this protest, there's about what twenty

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<v Speaker 3>people on the street corner adjacent to the ice facility,

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<v Speaker 3>nearly as many journalists and photographers as there are protesters.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what Bennie Johnson is describing as an

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<v Speaker 3>army of Antifa, is these twenty people holding signs across

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<v Speaker 3>from like a police line on the edge of the

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<v Speaker 3>ice facility. At a later point, Benny zooms into another

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<v Speaker 3>street corner which similarly has about a dozen people over

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<v Speaker 3>a one block away from the ice facility. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the army of Antifa that Bennie Johnson is referring to

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<v Speaker 3>as he, along with Nick Sorder stand with on the

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<v Speaker 3>roof of the ice facility surveying the area, which is

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<v Speaker 3>just a fantastical sequence of events. We time traveled and

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<v Speaker 3>told me that five years ago that Christy Nome and

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<v Speaker 3>Betty Johnson are going to be on the roof of

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<v Speaker 3>the ice facility calling a man in a chicken outfit

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<v Speaker 3>an army of Antifa. I guess I could believe you,

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<v Speaker 3>but it would still I guess it would still be

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<v Speaker 3>upsetting it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be happy, but I wouldn't like, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>like argue with you. I'd be like, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a natural extension of where things are

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<v Speaker 2>at this point in time.

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<v Speaker 3>On Tuesday night, Nome went on Fox News to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about a meeting she had with local law enforcement and

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<v Speaker 3>the mayor where she threatened to send four times as

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<v Speaker 3>many federal forces into Portland, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure man, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Told them what we wanted. We wanted more security here

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<v Speaker 7>at the building, a bigger buffer zone to keep our

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<v Speaker 7>officers safe. We wanted to have their streets opened up

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<v Speaker 7>again and not let the anarchists run this city anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>That we would ask them to continue to back us

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<v Speaker 7>up like we've been asked looking for, instead of what

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<v Speaker 7>they've been doing the last several months, which is just

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<v Speaker 7>leaving our officers hang out to dry. The chief asked

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<v Speaker 7>if I wanted to meet with the mayor, and I

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<v Speaker 7>said absolutely, came back and just met with a mayor,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm so extremely disappointed he's continuing to play politics.

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<v Speaker 7>Did not commit to any of those promises and said

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<v Speaker 7>that he'd give me an answer by tomorrow, and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>hopeful that he will. What I told him is that

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<v Speaker 7>if he did not follow through on some of these

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<v Speaker 7>security measures for our officers, we were going to cover

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<v Speaker 7>him up with more federal resources, and that we were

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<v Speaker 7>going to send four times the amount of federal officers

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<v Speaker 7>here so that the people of Portland could have some safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, almost no one's even there. I can't exaggerate the

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<v Speaker 2>degree to which this is not a major factor in

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine percent of people's day to day because number one,

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<v Speaker 2>where the ice facility is, is cordoned off from the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the city like.

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<v Speaker 6>Pretty isolated chunk.

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<v Speaker 2>It's isolated, you might say. And number two, just like

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<v Speaker 2>most people that I know who were out in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty don't really have a clear idea of what they

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<v Speaker 2>should be doing right now or what the most useful

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do is right now, and have spent a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time in front of federal riot lines and

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<v Speaker 2>aren't right now, And like it's this complete disconnect between

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<v Speaker 2>what's actually going on in the city and like what's

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<v Speaker 2>what's being reported, which doesn't matter really, like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>impact anything. That everything they're saying is a lie, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because their people believe it. It's just kind of frustrating now.

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<v Speaker 3>And this information is all into tro document that blocked

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<v Speaker 3>the deployment of National Guard quote. Plaintiffs provided all of

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<v Speaker 3>the PPB call logs in the month of September, which

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<v Speaker 3>showed that Portland Place Bureau worked in close coordination with

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<v Speaker 3>Federal Protective Service supervisors and regularly checked the status of

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<v Speaker 3>the ice facility as detailed above. They also showed that

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<v Speaker 3>protest activity in September generally did not involve violence against

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<v Speaker 3>federal property or personnel.

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<v Speaker 6>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>Espureau have been working in coordination to manage the protests

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<v Speaker 3>outside the ICE building. They've not abandoned ice officers. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not actually what's happening. A federal judge is deemed that

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<v Speaker 3>local law enforcement are more than sufficient to handle the

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<v Speaker 3>protests outside of the ICE facility. The Trump government just

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<v Speaker 3>really wants to send the military into cities, as they've

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<v Speaker 3>already done with DC, as they were wanting to do

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<v Speaker 3>with Memphis, Chicago, Portland eventually like New Orleans. This is

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<v Speaker 3>just something that they really want to do. On Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>October seventh, Texas National Guard arrived in Illinois and are

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<v Speaker 3>currently stationed at an Army reserve center in a suburb

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<v Speaker 3>south of Chicago. Sunday night, Governor Pritzker made a statement reading, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>this evening, President Trump is ordering four hundred members of

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<v Speaker 3>the Texas National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and

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<v Speaker 3>other locations within the United States. We must now start

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<v Speaker 3>calling this what it is, Trump's invasion. It started with

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<v Speaker 3>federal agents, will soon include deploying federalized members of the

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<v Speaker 3>Illinois National Guard against our wishes, and it will now

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<v Speaker 3>involve sending in another state's military troops. There is no

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<v Speaker 3>reason a president should send military troops into a sovereign

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<v Speaker 3>state without their knowledge, consent, or cooperation.

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<v Speaker 5>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>The state of Illinois announced that they would be seeking

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<v Speaker 3>their own tro against Trump's military deployment. The Illinois Attorney

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<v Speaker 3>General said in a statement, quote, the American people, regardless

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<v Speaker 3>of where they reside, should not live under the threat

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<v Speaker 3>of occupation by the United States military, particularly for the

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<v Speaker 3>reason that their city or state leadership has fallen out

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<v Speaker 3>of a president's favor. And on Monday, Chicago Mayra Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson signed an executive order establishing city property and unwilling

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<v Speaker 3>private businesses as ice free zones and discuss the deployment

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<v Speaker 3>of troops from out of state by warning quote, the

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<v Speaker 3>right wing in this country wants a rematch of the

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<v Speaker 3>Civil War unquote.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and so we have a kind of breaking news update,

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<v Speaker 10>which is so this is being recorded on Wednesday, October eighth.

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<v Speaker 10>It's possible this will again change by the time this

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<v Speaker 10>comes out. The most recent information we have is and

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<v Speaker 10>this is supported by CBS per a statement from US

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<v Speaker 10>Northern Command, which is part of the Defense Department's War Department.

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<v Speaker 10>But yes, they're sitting five hundred troops. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 10>to read the direct quote Illinois, approximately two hundred soldiers

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<v Speaker 10>from various units of the Texas National Guard and approximately

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<v Speaker 10>three hundred soldiers from various units of the Illinois National

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 10>Guard were activated into a Title ten status and have

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<v Speaker 10>arrived in the Greater Chicago area. The National Guard, remobilized

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 10>for an initial period of sixty days, will be under

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.120
<v Speaker 10>the command and control of the Commander of US Northern Command.

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<v Speaker 10>So that's where we are right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there is out of state guard deployed into Illinois.

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 3>They are in this borders of the state right now.

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 3>When Haiggs has tried to deployed California National Guard to Oregon,

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 3>it's unclear how many of them actually arrived in Oregon,

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 3>but we do have confirmation and photos of Texas Guard

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 3>in the borders of Illinois.

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<v Speaker 8>YEP.

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<v Speaker 3>This morning, Donald Trump truthed on truth Social that quote,

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago mayor should be in jail for failing to protect

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 3>ice officers. Governor Pritzker also unquote. Is that the President

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States calling for the jailing of a

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<v Speaker 3>mayor and governor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's also more recently calling for the jailing of

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 2>everyone who burns American flags and an anim of a

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>year in prison. Again, the legality here is deeply unclear.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 2>There's not a legal underpinning for that, other than he's

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>instructed the DOJ to start going after those folks.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, this is just words that he's saying.

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 3>But I think the words that he's saying are sometimes

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 3>not always, but sometimes important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, So I want to turn from here to the

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 10>other occupation of Chicago, the one that has been doing

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 10>significant damage already in the city as we have been covering,

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 10>which is the ICE and Border Patrol deployment in Chicago.

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 10>There's been more escalations that we are going to spend

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 10>a small amount of time talking about. ICE has begun

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 10>detaining unhoused people. We have reports of eleven total people

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 10>they've detained so far. Most of them have been released.

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 10>But the most prominent, and this is something that Brandon

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 10>Johnson specifically mentioned in his speech, was for people who

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 10>were taken in Chicago neighborhood called Broadview, who were outside

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 10>a shelter. According to Chicago reader, we don't know where

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 10>they are Jesus as if when say they're just gone,

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 10>no one, no one has been able to trace them down.

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>This and this seems to be part of a broader

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 10>trend of ICE agents taking action against people who I

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 10>mean appeared to be US citizens. We saw this a

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 10>couple like last week with and This is another thing

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 10>that Brandon Johnson specifically mentioned with him with ICE agents

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 10>just choking a black man out on the street. The

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 10>major story is that there has been a second shooting

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 10>by ICE in Chicago on What we know for sure

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<v Speaker 10>about this shooting is that on Saturday morning, an ICE

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 10>agent shot a woman named Merrimar Martinez, who appeared to

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<v Speaker 10>have been part of a group that was following ICE

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 10>vehicles around the city. Martinez was shot and drove herself

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 10>to a nearby auto repair shop, where medics and police

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 10>showed up. I'm going to read the Sun Times' account

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 10>from the shop managers who they spoke to of what

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 10>happened when she got to the body shop. Quote. The

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 10>shop manager spoke with a nine to one one operator

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 10>and said, send somebody quickly because this lady is bleeding profusely.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 10>I mean it was instant puddles. Police and paramedic showed

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 10>up a few minutes later, he said. As paramedics place

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 10>a turnquit on Martinez's leg and arm, a bullet fell

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 10>out of her arm and onto the shop floor. The

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 10>manager said, Martinez thankfully does not seem to have been

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 10>really really severely injured. She is like she is insable

0:28:55.560 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 10>medical condition. NOWDHS put out a press release almost immediately

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 10>claiming that their agents who were quote ambushed by domestic

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 10>terrorists that rammed federal agents with their vehicles and that

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 10>quote Nortinez, woman they shot was quote aren't with a

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 10>semiongmatic weapon and has a history of docsing federal agents. Now,

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 10>it is worth noting that best practice when looking at

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 10>Department of Homeland Security statements, especially under the Trump administration,

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 10>is to simply assume that they are not telling the

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 10>truth until any details they have mentioned are corroborated. What

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 10>the exact situation was before the shooting is very unclear.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 10>Both Department of Homeland Security and federal prosecutors have claimed

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 10>that a group of cars basically boxed in an ice vehicle,

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 10>and their repeated claims that they were ramming the ice

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 10>vehicle and then that's why the ICE agent opened fire.

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 6>That's the DHS's claims.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, this is the DHS's claims, and these are

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 10>the claims that are made in court documents. I want

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 10>to read from the Sun Times also Martinez's lawyer's description

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 10>of what's going on, because it is significantly different from

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 10>the government's account and Also, it's also worth mentioning that

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 10>there's already been some deviation between the court documents and

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 10>the DHS statement. For example, the court the DHS statement

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 10>mentions a semi automatic weapon, and there's just simply no

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 10>mention of that in like in any of the sort

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 10>of charging documents. The deadly weapon that she's being accused

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 10>of doing an assault with, which is what she's been

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 10>charged with, is the car. Yeah, so here's here's from

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 10>the Sun Times. So Parenti, who is her attorney. Parenti

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 10>also offered to play an agent's body cam video that

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 10>shows the shooting, noting prosecutors did not show the video

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 10>that he claims disputes the government's version of the shooting.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 10>Parenti said the video shows an agent turning a federal

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 10>vehicle left into Martinez's vehicle, after which the agent says, quote,

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 10>do something, bitch. The agent then exits the vehicle and

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 10>shoots Martinez. The t Ernie said Martinez had quote seven

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 10>holes in her from the shooting, and that agents were

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 10>in such a hurry to take her into custody at

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 10>the hospital that they had to return later when Martinez

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 10>began bleeding from her wounds.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so this is a significantly different portrayal of the shooting.

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 10>We do not have access to this bodycam footage yet

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 10>it has not been released to the public. There is

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 10>a video that we do have that does not show

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 10>the shooting, that shows some of the stuff leading up

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 10>to the shooting, from that sort of audio repair shop

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 10>that she went to. It is still very unclear what

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 10>exactly happened here other than the fact that I shot

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 10>this woman. That's the only thing that we one percent know.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>She does have a concealed carry license and had a

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 3>handgun in the car with her. Yeah, the lawyers have

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 3>claimed she never brandished the weapon and it was in

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 3>the passenger seat.

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>And there's no evidence that she did brandage the one.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 6>No, no, no.

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Nor is Ice even claiming that like Ice. Ice isn't

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>even claiming that she brandished weapon. Ice isn't claiming that

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 3>she fired a weapon.

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Now, the Ice specific claim is that when she was

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 2>arrested later, she had the weapon on her, which could

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>refer to the vehicle or whatever.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 10>Well, and I will say so. The initial Department of

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 10>Homeland Security press statement said that she was armed with

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 10>correct Semiana had weapon. I think a lot of people

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 10>took that to mean, you know, because DHS was implying

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 10>stuff by saying that she was armed with even though

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 10>she was not.

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're inhabiting the ambiguity of the right.

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 5>Like yeah, right.

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 3>They also said that they fired defensively, which makes you

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 3>infer that this person may have fired at Ice. Yeah,

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 3>even though DTS has never actually claimed that. They are

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 3>trying to selectively use words to make people infer things

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 3>that they're not even actually explicitly claiming.

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, And we're going to have to get more details

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 10>and we're going to have to wait to see exactly

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 10>what happened. But what the evidence supports right now is

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 10>that ICE shot someone who was doing rapid response work

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 10>and it is frankly a miracle that she wasn't severely

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 10>injured or killed. And this is again the second time

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 10>they have done this since ICE's deployment in the city.

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 10>The first time they did just straight up kill a man.

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 10>So we'll be following the story as as it develops,

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 10>and we'll be following the continued actions of ICE in

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 10>Chicago and other places. Yeah, and we will continue to

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 10>talk about stuff after these ads.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, and we are back.

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<v Speaker 4>MEA was talking about rapid responders there, and I want

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 4>to talk a little bit about one of the tools

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 4>that they were using, which was called People over Papers.

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 5>There are many of these apps that have sprung up.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 4>The January of this year rate since we saw much

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 4>more visible immigration enforcement on the streets. Padlet, which was

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 4>the I guess bulletin board type service that was People

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 4>over Papers relied on, has removed People over Papers rights

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 4>say it violated their terms of service. The removal comes

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 4>just a few days after a Laura Luma tweet which

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 4>tag the CEO claimed that People over Papers was violating

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 4>the terms of service by quote harassment, stalking, privacy violations,

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 4>inciting violence, and other unlawful activity. Luma there is noting

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 4>things in the terms of service she perceives people to

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 4>be doing with People over Papers, right y. This has

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 4>happened after another of these apps, ice Block, was removed

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 4>from app stores last week, also involved some Luma posting. Notably,

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 4>Tricia McLachlin, the DHS Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, has

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 4>claimed and this is in contravention of what's widely held

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 4>to be caught precedent the Lord. She has claimed that

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 4>videotaping ice agents is doxing them, and separately, Christie nom

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 4>has claimed that doxing is an act of violence. We

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 4>can join the two dots there. Videotaping ice agents is

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 4>an act of violence to what's being suggested here. We

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 4>can see the consequences of this argument in the deportation

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 4>of Atlanta Area report on Mario. Mario was held for

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 4>more than one hundred days in detention. He was arrested

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 4>a No King's Day protest if you can remember, back

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 4>back when people were doing those things, but the charges

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 4>against him were dropped. However, since then the government has

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 4>argued that his filming of law enforcement constitutes a threat

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 4>to public safety. Mara has now been deported back to

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 4>El Salvador. He's an Atlanta Area reporter and like I

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 4>guess two editorialize, it would be really nice to see

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 4>a fraction of the advocacy we saw for Jimmy Kimmel

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 4>as someone who's actually doing reporting right, not just trying

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 4>to be funny.

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 2>He's not as big as Jimmy Kimmel. There's never as

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>any followers.

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, but he's also been sent to El Salvador,

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 4>whereas Jimmy Kimmel.

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Was sent back to his mansion in Hollywood.

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 5>Eggs.

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, for like less than a week. So I'm

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 4>going to link in the show notes both to an

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 4>avacy campaign and the freem of the Press Foundation piece

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 4>about Mario, and you guys can check that out if

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 4>you'd like to.

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<v Speaker 5>Second character for this week is Tom Hohman.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys will remember Tom Horman Bordizar, a guy who famously,

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 4>well relatively recently, has become famous for scenically accepting a

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 4>bag with fifty thousand dollars of cash in it in

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 4>an FBI sting operation. Let's play this clip of Pam Bondy,

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 4>who is answering questions in front of Congress here about

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<v Speaker 4>what happened to the literal bag of cash?

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<v Speaker 8>What became of the fifty thousand dollars in cash that

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:14.839
<v Speaker 8>the FBI paid to mister Homan in a paper bag?

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:21.919
<v Speaker 3>Evidently, oh my god, Tom and Jerry asked shit.

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 4>She's looking through her notes right now. She's selected the

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 4>page Senator.

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<v Speaker 13>As Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche recently stated the investigation

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 13>of mister Homan was subjected to a full review by

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 13>the FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors. They found no credible

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 13>evidence of any wrongdoing.

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 8>And that was not my question. My question was what

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 8>became of the fifty thousand dollars in cash that the

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 8>FBI delivered evidently in a paper bag to mister Homan.

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<v Speaker 13>Senator, I look at your facts.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you saying that they did not deliver fifty thousand

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:04.720
<v Speaker 8>dollars in cash to mister home snitor?

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 13>As recently stated, the investigation and mister Homan was subjected.

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<v Speaker 5>To a full re question by FBI.

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<v Speaker 13>Agents, that's by Department of Justice prosecutors. They found no

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.919
<v Speaker 13>evidence of wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a different question. What became of the fifty thousand dollars?

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 8>Did the FBI get it back?

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 13>Mister white House? Excuse me, Senator white House. You're welcome

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 13>to talk to.

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 8>The FBI the report to you. Can't you answer this question?

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, this guy's name is mister white House.

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Na, Senator white House, Charrison. That surely is a

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 4>little confuser, maybe against some emails for the wrong person.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 4>Sheldon white House apparentes.

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Theoretically, if he got a job for the administration, his

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>email will be white House at white House dot gov.

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's cool.

0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Unfortunately, it doesn't look like that's happen given the

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 4>line of questioning that he pursued here. But yeah, you

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 4>can hear Retchie. She seems to be unwilling to answer

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 4>where the paper bag of cash money, yeah, has gone.

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 4>Incredible stuff, beca it's easier to lose that than you'd

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 4>think you. One would assume that the FBI would have

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.280
<v Speaker 4>some kind of tracking capability when giving someone fifty thousand

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 4>dollars in a paper bag, But here we are.

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a no country for all mint kind of situation.

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Whoever found it was smart enough to dumb transponder first.

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.720
<v Speaker 2>We will probably never know if they're smart. Yeah.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, building on that, what Pro Publicer is now reporting

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 4>is that Homan went into business with a Pennsylvania consultant

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 4>named Child Soul, and that Soul has been offering consoles

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 4>on how to obtain contracts a Department of Homeland Security.

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 4>So Homan consulted for Soul's firm during the Biden administration,

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 4>and during that same period, So became the chair of

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Homan's Border nine one one foundation. According to their reporting,

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 4>Pro Publica has called into question the extent to which

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 4>Homan has actually recused himself from contracts, saying that he

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 4>participated in meetings with executives about government contracting plans. So

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 4>normally a government official would be bound to steer clear

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.800
<v Speaker 4>of their former business associates for at least a year

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 4>when they enter office. Right, I can't consult for Garrison Inc.

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 4>And then become procurement for DHS and immediately buy one

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 4>thousand of whatever Garrison Inc.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 5>Is selling?

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 6>You can?

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 4>You can tag Garrison on a blue sky where they

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 4>will read what you think they're selling.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 3>If this will result in me getting fifty thousand dollars

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 3>in a paper bag, then you know, maybe.

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in this instance, I would be the one getting

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 4>the fifty thousand dollars from Garrison Inc. In return for

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 4>buying whatever it is that you are selling orbs.

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 6>Maybe yeah, that's not a great deal.

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I did.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:57.280
<v Speaker 11>Well.

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 4>Seems like it was a great deal in this instance

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 4>for a Tom Holman.

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 4>Their reporting suggests that Horman went from a relatively modest

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 4>income in twenty seventeen to being a multimillionaire by the

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 4>time he filed his twenty twenty five disclosed your documents.

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 4>When you assume federal office that you have to file

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.800
<v Speaker 4>these disclosure documents, disclose your assets. I guess the famous

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 4>one is Jimmy Carter's peanut farm. But it seems that

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 4>during that time his personal network increased significantly. Right, he

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.760
<v Speaker 4>did a lot of consulting. He became like a talking

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 4>head on Fox News in the Biden administration. It's difficult

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 4>to summarize the intricacies of history. I encourage you to

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 4>read it. For instance, of the third person called Mark Hall,

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 4>who appears to be doing some work on behalf of Homan,

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 4>but also retaining relationship with Soul's clients, it looks a

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 4>lot like what's happening is that the people who Homan

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 4>had been doing consulting with and now trying to make

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 4>money saying that they have act special access to DHF

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 4>based off that consulting. This kind of builds on some

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 4>of the stuff that we'd already seen and spoken about

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 4>last week. Right finally, on the immigration beat, I want

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 4>to talk about a case where the petitioner's attorney has

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 4>stated that the petitioner I'm not going to name the person,

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's necessary, was taken to hospital by

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.959
<v Speaker 4>CBP after they severely injured his leg on a raid

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 4>in a car wash in Carson, California. He was booked

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 4>into the hospital under a pseudonym and kept there under

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 4>armed guard from August to twenty seventh until October fourth.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 10>Jesus Christ.

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so this person, they weren't coming up in the

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 4>detainee locator, right. They hadn't apparently been allocated in a number,

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 4>which is what you would normally used to look someone

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 4>up on the ICE detainee locator. And I guess the

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 4>argument there was that they weren't booked in until they

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 4>left the hospital. So this person basically disappeared for more

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 4>than a month. Yeah, the judges granted that petitioner an

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:57.439
<v Speaker 4>attentive restraining order in that instance, right, But I think

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.760
<v Speaker 4>this I have been receiving a lot of mess about

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 4>a Chicago older person who was detained by ICE at

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 4>a hospital, and I have seen a number of reports

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 4>that suggest that that's because Ice were detaining people in

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 4>the hospital. To my knowledge, the only person they detained

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 4>in the hospital was the older person. They were not

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 4>detaining patients at the hospital. They were there because they

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 4>had bought somebody to the hospital in order for that

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 4>person to be a patient. Because that person was in

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 4>their detention in their care and needed medical assistance. I

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 4>have seen outlets I don't should I name them, like

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 4>Democracy Now got this wrong and so that they were

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 4>arresting people. So like Democracy Now is one example, right,

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 4>I have seen outlets reporting this as ICE were in

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 4>the hospital detaining people. Nothing I have seen leads me

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 4>to believe that, and lots of things I have seen

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 4>leave me not to believe that. It doesn't mean it's

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 4>great for the people who are bought into hospital by ICE,

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 4>and sure it fucking sucks. I'm sure it has a

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 4>chilling effect on other people going to hospital to know

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 4>that they are there.

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 5>But so does.

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 4>Reporting that suggests that you can be picked up in

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 4>hospital if you're an impatient or if you're in the

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 4>emergency room. That stops people accessing medical care, that actively

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 4>puts people in danger. We need to be really, really

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 4>fucking careful when sharing this shit. That includes people who

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 4>are journalists or claiming to be journalists.

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 2>People are so upset, rightly so with what ICE is

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 2>doing that there can be this attitude and I've encountered

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>before of like, well, by undercautioning people, that's the biggest risk,

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's like not when we're talking about whether or

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.919
<v Speaker 2>not people go to the hospital for life saving care.

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, it's just not like these are not equivalent risks.

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 2>More people are going to be in a position where

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>they would be scared off from going to the hospital

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 2>and not in any danger from ice going to it,

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 2>than might possibly be in danger going to the hospital. Like,

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>you're just endangering people by trying to get them to

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>believe it is not safe for them to go receive

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 2>life saving emergency medical care at this stage. Now, is

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 2>it possible that's going to change? Good? God, I'm certainly

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.919
<v Speaker 2>not going to say no, right, I'm certainly not going

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 2>to say no one hundred percent, but that's not where

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 2>we are right now. Just overcautioning people is not a

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 2>net good in this instance. Yeah, absolutely, times it is,

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>but not here because again, if people don't go to

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the hospital on time, they die.

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I'm aware of cases where people with genuinely

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 4>life threatening medical emergencies have been had to be persuaded

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 4>to go to the hospital by people right because they

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 4>had seen this. Because these rooms don't just spread via

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 4>social media built by WhatsApp groups and things, and it

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 4>can be very scary for people.

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, and people largely construct their beliefs on reality by

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 2>like what the weight of the people that they know

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 2>directly or follow are saying is true. And when you

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>see fifty people, some of them you kind of know,

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.320
<v Speaker 2>some of them you've at least followed to an extent online,

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 2>all say this is unsafe. Then there's a tendency to

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 2>get really angry when people are like, well, I don't know,

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe it doesn't actually.

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like I mean, like I care about the safety

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 4>of migrantes in this country. I think anyone who looked

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 4>at a totality of my work would believe that, right, Like,

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 4>it's ludicrous to suggest otherwise. That means I want them

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 4>to go to hospital when they're fucking sick. And that

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:13.439
<v Speaker 4>means that people who are saying things that are not true.

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 4>I understand why, right it lines up with the other

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 4>things that we know to be true. ICE is doing

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 4>terrible shit. Shit is terrible, but it is still an

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 4>area where we need to exercise extreme caution when reporting

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 4>on things until we know that it is true that

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 4>I so are coming in to hospital and taking people

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 4>out of the beds, which again not a thing that

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 4>I think is happening. Let's pivot a little bit to

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 4>public lands and think that I think about a lot

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 4>that we don't always report on here, but that I

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 4>think is very important. I want to talk about the

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 4>Roadless Rule today. So September saw the end of the

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 4>comment period. It was a very short comment period on

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 4>the Trump administration's proposal to rescind the Roadless Rule. The

0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 4>Roadless Rule, if you're not familiar, protects over fifty d

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 4>eight point eight million acres of national forest land from roadbuilding, logging,

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:09.720
<v Speaker 4>and other industrial activity. According to the Center for Western Priorities,

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 4>ninety nine percent of the comments submitted, of which there

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 4>were more than one hundred and eighty thousand, were opposed

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 4>to rescinding the rule. Right, the reads rule has previously

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 4>had broad bipartisan support.

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 5>It was not a particularly controversial thing.

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 4>Agriculture Sexuary Brook Rollins announced a proposal early in the summer,

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 4>saying it would increase logging and decrease wildfire risk. Research

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.320
<v Speaker 4>suggests that the opposite is true. Cutting roads into forests

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 4>provides more ignission opportunities. Right By allowing people to go

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.399
<v Speaker 4>into those forests, you allow those people to do things

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 4>which lead to fires happening. Right, their cars overheat they

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 4>smoke cigarettes, they fucking shoot steel targets in the middle

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 4>of the summer.

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we just had a guy brought in for

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the Palisade fires and he was like a twenty nine

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 2>year old uber driver who was having clearly a bad

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 2>mental health day, called in after he set a fire,

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 2>but kind of made weird denials about it and then

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.839
<v Speaker 2>like flood to Florida and it kind of just looks

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 2>like he was listening to a song where there were

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 2>people lighting fires and decided to light a fire and

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:16.399
<v Speaker 2>it got way out of control, way too quickly. Yeah,

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't even the same night, Like it took

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 2>like a week because like they put out the initial fire,

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 2>but it kept burning through thick underbrush which eventually got

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 2>real hot. That's my understanding based on the articles that

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I've read. But like, yeah, it's it's I mean, in

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 2>that case, it's just a guy who's not super well.

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 5>Sure.

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 4>And like the other thing that cutting grows will do

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 4>is it will change the foliage. Right, You'll cut down

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 4>the big trees and you'll have smaller shrubs and that

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 4>those are easier to burn the big trees.

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 8>Right.

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 4>The wilderness society has some data on this. I think

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 4>they found that forestwich roads were four times more likely

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 4>to have fires. I will link to that Wilderness Society data.

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 4>And the road rule was passed under the Clinton admin

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 4>and it's being rescinded as part of a March executive

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 4>which sought to increase US timber production. I want to

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 4>note that there will not be guys with chainsaws rolling

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 4>into your favorite national forest like next week or next month,

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 4>right Like building these roads would have to be financed

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 4>by the United States Forest Service, which is of course

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 4>currently well. If you go on the forest website, forest

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Service website will tell you that radical left Democrats have

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 4>shut down the federal government right now in a pop

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 4>up but we did it, guys. Yeah, so the Forest

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 4>Service finally coming out against the work left. But yeah,

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 4>the Forest Service would have to finance these and it's

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 4>currently understaffed because of the voluntree and DOGE based layoffs.

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 4>It's not particularly well funded. I don't see the Forest

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 4>Service going in for a lot of road construction, but

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 4>it might be wrong. Right Trump Kelly seems to see

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 4>not importing timber as a major issue. I'm not quite

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 4>sure why. Like I guess this was an issue in

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Britain when they had to respond to the Spanish Armada

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.760
<v Speaker 4>cut down a lot of trees back then. Not familiar

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 4>with very similar Yeah, yeah, national security issue.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we can agree right to Spanish.

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just excited that now I can finally

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:09.919
<v Speaker 3>drive my ATV through these you know, environmentally protected area

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 3>damn right garrison without getting harassed by the park ser.

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:14.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah woke left.

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be the drunkest guy on an ATV and

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Joshua tree, I'm gonna drive straight for the biggest tree

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I can find. Anything over a thousand years old is

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 2>fair game for my bumper.

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 5>Baby's hit close to home if I I'm sorry, James.

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 2>James is seething right now, James Jessu is going to

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 2>fucking cut me.

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:37.000
<v Speaker 4>If I see anyone stealing or destroying a Joshua tree,

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I will.

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.319
<v Speaker 2>I would never harm a Joshua tree. I would never

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 2>harm a Joshua tree. There's one kind of tree I

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 2>will harm, in discriminately, into tree of paradise. But that's

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 2>good for the environment. But those trees kill them wherever

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 2>you find them.

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 4>I think the only Joshua tree it's okay to hate

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 4>is the album by you two.

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's also burn every copy of the album Joshua

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Tree that yeah, I'm okay with destroy raise it from

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the inn for those within ATV.

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wouldn't mind if that became extinct. Why not?

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.320
<v Speaker 4>May you want to talk about tariffs. We're talking about timber,

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 4>and of course there has been recently a tariff on

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:15.400
<v Speaker 4>Canadian lumber woke trees coming in from our neighbors to

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:18.760
<v Speaker 4>the north. So sorry, that's why we need to destroy

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 4>our national forests.

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Canada kinda is destroying theirs and they still

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 2>have trees the export.

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I do.

0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 4>I guess one thing I haven't said about public land

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 4>that you should always say when you're talking about public

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 4>land is that it's all native land actually, and the

0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 4>framing of public land is a place for white folks

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 4>to recreate. It's not the correct framing. It's not how

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 4>we win this fight.

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:38.720
<v Speaker 2>And no, and you should also if you care about

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 2>not just the damage that fires do, but conservation in general,

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and you ever eat the opportunity to go through like

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 2>up here in the Pacific Northwest, you can go through

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.240
<v Speaker 2>chunks of the forest that are managed by the state,

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and that are managed by the Bureau of Land Management,

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and then you can go through chunks of forests that

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:56.719
<v Speaker 2>are managed by the indigenous communities, and the way in

0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 2>which forests are managed is very different. Yeah, in a

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 2>way that one is the right way to do it,

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and the other two arts yeah.

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:06.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 4>This is land that was all stolen from its indigenous

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 4>stewards by means of genocide, and we should give it back.

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.720
<v Speaker 2>And it's not just a matter of that's the the

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 2>right thing to say, but also that is the right

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 2>way to preserve those lands.

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the people who've been in stewardship of those lands

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 4>so much longly than America has been a country.

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Watch the I think nineteen ninety one movie Clearcut,

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:32.799
<v Speaker 2>which is set in Canada. But a fucking banger, real

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 2>good movie.

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 5>Check it out.

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if those two things are compatible. What

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Canada and a banga. Yeah, it's good.

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's a it's about an indigenous activist and

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 2>a white lawyer.

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Who you don't like cronin what's wrong with.

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 5>He's fighting this movies.

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:57.279
<v Speaker 2>It's it's really good. It's about this like liberal white

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 2>lawyer who's fighting like a logging company and this indigenous

0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 2>activist who takes him and kidnaps the head of the

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 2>logging company and takes them into the forest. And that's

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 2>all I'll tell you about the movie. It is a

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 2>fucking banger.

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't go on this podcast make fun of your

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 3>own country, Garrison Davis.

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 2>You will all by the way, like Clearcut, watch that

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:22.839
<v Speaker 2>fucking movie it Yeah, tariff talk, Yeah.

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 5>What movie tariff? Look at that for fucking segue. Yeah,

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 5>rocking jazz, rocking jazz pot sorry lock.

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Rocking jazz, rocking jazz bo.

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:42.720
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 10>In Lightning Round, we have huge we have two pivot

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 10>points here. We're gonna go for the timber pivot instead

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 10>of the movie pivot. Okay, So Lightning Round. Trump is

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 10>imposing a ten percent tariff on softwood lumber, a twenty

0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:02.320
<v Speaker 10>five percent tariff on upholstered furniture, and twenty five percent

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 10>tariff on kitchen cabinets in vanities.

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 6>Ikea is the thing.

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:11.280
<v Speaker 4>Ikea is Tyas Shay's long industry is collapsing in Canada

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 4>as we speak.

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:14.880
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so this is this is going to be in

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:18.399
<v Speaker 10>effect October fourteenth. Get him now, and then also these

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 10>tariffs are scheduled to increase at the beginning of next year.

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 10>The upholstered furniture tariffs are increasing to thirty percent, and

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 10>the kitchen cabinet and vanity tariffs are increasing to fifty

0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 10>percent at the beginning of next year.

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, the idea that there's a vanity tariff is

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:36.319
<v Speaker 4>very funny to me, like a now, but just like

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 4>as a concept.

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:44.200
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, people, these are nominally lumber industry tariffs. I think

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:48.320
<v Speaker 10>there's some kind of housing development brain inside of Trump's

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 10>head rattling around as to why there's suddenly tariffs on

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 10>vanities and upultered furniture. Who knows, baffling. The Canadian government

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.800
<v Speaker 10>has been attempting to lift the tariffs. It has not worked.

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:04.960
<v Speaker 10>Snociations once again failed today, which is October eighth. Okay,

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 10>bouncing from that to something that's also very important, Blashet

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 10>Waite and I feeling more important. So one of the

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 10>issues with the current government shutdown is the threat to

0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 10>the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, infants and Children,

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:25.360
<v Speaker 10>which is normally called WIC. The RECU funding is extraordinarily

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 10>important because it feeds several million people. And okay, this

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:34.880
<v Speaker 10>story is very very weird because we haven't gotten any

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:39.920
<v Speaker 10>direct thing about how this would work outside of the

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:42.880
<v Speaker 10>Press secretary saying it. But the Press Secretary is saying

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:47.839
<v Speaker 10>that Trump is going to fund this program with the

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 10>money from one of the tariff programs. Now, it is

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:57.840
<v Speaker 10>worth noting that this is just very unconstitutional, exceptionally unconstitutional.

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 10>Is a violation of the part of the operation of

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 10>powers where they say that Congress is the thing that

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 10>the levy's tax doesn't decide where the money goes. But

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 10>it's also it's not clear if this is even happening

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:12.319
<v Speaker 10>or how it could even remotely happen, but it is

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 10>being reported. The WIC has been a program that Trump

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.720
<v Speaker 10>has been using to push his narrative about the government

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:19.360
<v Speaker 10>shut down.

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think forty percent of children are on WICK

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:27.359
<v Speaker 4>right now. Like, this is an extremely important program. It's

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 4>one of those things where like again, there was complete

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 4>biparties and support apart aside from complete lunatics until very

0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 4>like you would never have heard like a fuck Wick statement.

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 4>It's done a lot of good for a lot of

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 4>people who need a lot of help. I did see

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 4>a statement from the Wick Council that basically asserted that like, look,

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 4>we'd be excited if you would keep us keep Wick funded,

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:55.359
<v Speaker 4>but using tariff money, it's not a sustainable or like

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 4>reliable approach to do this. Just just fund it by

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 4>playing for government program to the youthul way.

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 10>So, the other major tariff news that we have is basically,

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.719
<v Speaker 10>for the last couple of weeks, Trump has been threatening

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:14.240
<v Speaker 10>to impose one percent tariffs on pharmaceuticals. This was originally

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 10>supposed to go into effect in October first, and then

0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 10>Trump started cutting a bunch of deals with drug manufacturers

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 10>to exchange sort of lower price agreements. And also, and

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 10>this is the major significant element, as we've seen with

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 10>the whole bunch of companies that have made deals with

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 10>Trump pledges of large scale investments in US manufacturing and production.

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 10>These tariffs have sort of been staved off, and the

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 10>administration is now saying that they won't do it because

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 10>they don't need to because they have resear gavings for

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 10>drug companies. Pfizer was the first major company to sign

0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 10>a deal. This has been part of an initiative called

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 10>Trump RX, which is supposedly coming in twenty twenty six.

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and the plan is to have to reck to

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 10>consumer drug sales by forcing these companies to give the

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 10>US Most Favored Nation status, which like basically the thrust

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:13.919
<v Speaker 10>of this is giving specifically this trump are X thing,

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:17.560
<v Speaker 10>the prices that these drug companies charged to undeveloped countries. However,

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 10>and this is extremely important to not being reported very much.

0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:24.640
<v Speaker 10>Trump ore Rex. Assuming this comes program comes into being,

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 10>you can't use insurance on it is only you can

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 10>only buy drugs off there. You would only be able

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 10>to buy drugs off there without insurance. So it probably

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 10>doesn't lower your drug costs at all if you have

0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 10>really any kind of.

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Insurance, certainly lowers that cost your insurance company has to pay,

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 4>right like, if you're insured.

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 5>Badly, Yeah, right, you know.

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:46.880
<v Speaker 10>And so the actual good that this could even potentially do,

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 10>I think is very very limited. Yeah, but that's sort

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 10>of what's going on. This is the part of the initiative.

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 10>If you see people talking about how he's lowering drug prices,

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 10>it's specifically for this weird trump are X thing, which

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:00.480
<v Speaker 10>again you can't use insurance to use. So there's been

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 10>a few other tariffs that he's talked about, and I

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 10>kind of want to set a spectrum of how real

0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 10>a tariff is because there's a whole bunch of different

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 10>kinds of teriffs that Trump announces and then nothing happens one. So,

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 10>for example, you can have a kind of tariff where

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 10>he announces on social media, but there's no date. Right,

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 10>So one hundred percent tariff on four and made movies.

0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 10>This is the second time he's talked about it. There's

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 10>never been a date attached to it. It seems to

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 10>be something that he tweets about and then forgets about.

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 10>It never happens. On the more real end, there are

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 10>tariffs like the one that is currently being proposed as

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 10>twenty five percent tariff on heavy trucks that's supposed to

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 10>go into effect in November first, but there is no

0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:46.160
<v Speaker 10>executive order, so that one we can't treat as real

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 10>as for example, the lumber tariffs, which have an executive order,

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 10>although also again you have to wait for these to

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 10>actually go into effect, which which would be category sort

0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:58.800
<v Speaker 10>of three and four. Are is there an executive order

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:01.760
<v Speaker 10>and has the date of these executive order doing the

1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:05.800
<v Speaker 10>thing passed? So we have a couple of floating tariffs.

1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:08.040
<v Speaker 10>From there, we have those twenty five percent tariffs on

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 10>heavy trucks, which are supposed to go into efect November first,

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:13.680
<v Speaker 10>assuming it's an executive order. We have this film.

1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Tariff, which is the was the scariest tariff by far

1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:19.200
<v Speaker 3>one tariffs on foreign made films.

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 5>What are they tariffing that have to.

1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Hoist the black flag again?

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.520
<v Speaker 5>My friends don't know has any idea what that meants?

1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:27.480
<v Speaker 5>We have no absolutely not. We have no clue how

1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:33.439
<v Speaker 5>this is no detasfled. Okay, he just said film Okay, sick. Good.

1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:35.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that everyone's equally clear on that.

1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Get back to torrenting Babel.

1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:39.120
<v Speaker 10>I think I think the final thing we should talk

1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:40.960
<v Speaker 10>about is so on November fifth, the Supreme Court is

1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:43.240
<v Speaker 10>going to start hearing the case against a bunch of

1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:45.880
<v Speaker 10>the tariffs that Trump has been doing. We've talked about

1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 10>this before. The Trump administration has also stated that even

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:51.360
<v Speaker 10>if these terriffs are found on constitutional, they are going

1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:54.800
<v Speaker 10>to continue to apply tariffs themselves using other laws.

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:55.640
<v Speaker 5>That's good.

1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:59.600
<v Speaker 10>Even if they lose the Supreme Court case, that doesn't

1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:01.800
<v Speaker 10>mean that all the terriffs are suddenly just not going

1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:03.880
<v Speaker 10>to happen anymore. He will probably try to reimpose a

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:06.440
<v Speaker 10>whole bunch of them under different terror authority and we'll

1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:08.960
<v Speaker 10>go through this whole process again. But yeah, this is

1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:10.840
<v Speaker 10>this has been, this has been terriff.

1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:15.200
<v Speaker 4>Talk great, Okay, So I have a fundraiser for you.

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:18.440
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<v Speaker 4>Kurdish woman. Because of her beliefs and her ethnicity, she

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<v Speaker 4>found it very hard to live in Turkey. We've we've

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<v Speaker 4>documented Turkey and Kurdish people's relations quite a lot on

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<v Speaker 4>this podcast. She is now living in southern California and

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<v Speaker 4>she needs to raise money to pay her lawyer for

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<v Speaker 4>her asylum case. And the website for that is GoFundMe

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<v Speaker 4>dot com, slash f slash urgent, hyphen help, hyphen four

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<v Speaker 4>hyphen Bouquette, b u k E t s Hyphene, asylum

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