WEBVTT - Ep. 3 - We just can't with man buns anymore

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Ambition, Episode three. Hey guys, it's Mandy, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey, hey, it's Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey hey hey. So that's like your trademark. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>from SNL?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's from fed Albert. I say it like whenever

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<v Speaker 3>I speak on stage and stuff, I say, hey, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what or either faed Albert or that

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<v Speaker 3>old show like, oh my gosh, somebody's gonna know. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like this old show with Shirley and Rod and what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>What's Oh maybe that's my Maybe. I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where the age difference comes into play.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thirty five. Somebody's gonna know what's happening. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you do, please tweet us at the BA podcast. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>at the BA podcast on Twitter. You'll know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're thirty five or older, you know that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to start off by saying congratulations because Tiffany

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<v Speaker 1>just gave her first te X talk I guess well

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>So congratt, Yeah, thank you. It was very nerve wracking.

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<v Speaker 3>It was nervous. I've been planning for months and it's

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<v Speaker 3>done and I'm proud of my work and so I

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait to share it soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna start off the Buzzworthy segment. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>sports themed edition of Buzzworthy, which I don't hope you

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<v Speaker 1>guys won't mind starting. Let's start what good or bad?

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<v Speaker 2>First? Let's start was Good's? Well, it's actually they're both

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bad. Oh yeah, I just realized, Well, Serena,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not so bad. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so everyone probably knows by now that Serena Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>the great, amazing, inspirational Serena Williams lost her bid for

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<v Speaker 1>the US Open Championship, which also meant that she's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to break the record for the most wins in

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<v Speaker 1>a calendar year or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically winning every major tournament in a calendar This was

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<v Speaker 3>the last tournament that she had to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you watch it?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't watch them. It's just too nerve racking. I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up playing tennis. I played tennis since I was

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<v Speaker 3>like four or five years old, and she was one

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<v Speaker 3>of my idols. I was tennis team captain in high school,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I just get too nervous to watch her.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was watching on Twitter. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on Twitter at work on Friday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, Roxane Gay, this writer I've read

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about sometimes she was tweeting like a second,

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<v Speaker 1>like every second she was tweeting like, oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>God, Serena. No, no girl, though, Drake, it's your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so I turned it on and I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>my desk and I probably caught the last like five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the match when it was like not going

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<v Speaker 1>well for Serena. And then I don't really so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch tennis. I think I played tennis on the

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<v Speaker 1>Wii like twice, and so I don't know how how

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<v Speaker 1>the points work. Okay, when I was watching Venus versus Serena,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I watched the whole thing, but I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, yeah, get her, yeah, like if someone's.

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<v Speaker 1>Winning, right, I just kind of waited for the announcer

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me who was up. Okay, So I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the last five minutes and I could tell things

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<v Speaker 1>weren't going well. And then finally when like Roberta Vinci,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations by the way, I gets yeah, when she hit

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<v Speaker 1>that last game winning point point, right, yeah, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was at my desk, and I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone around me was also watching the match, and

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<v Speaker 1>so were my editor and I were like oh at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, you're watching it. I was trying to watch

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<v Speaker 2>it all the down. Ye, well, everybody's watching.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what I mean, Serena, I mean, hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>she understands like how amazing she is.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just so much pressure, so much hype.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and honestly because honest obviously, I mean no offense

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<v Speaker 3>to Aberta, but you know, Serena's number one. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Roberta's number.

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<v Speaker 2>Like forty something. She wasn't even ranked, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so not to you know, take away from her win,

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<v Speaker 3>because she she did win, but Serena to me is

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<v Speaker 3>the best player in the world in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody would argue with that, you know, as.

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<v Speaker 3>Far as Tedus is concerned women's tennis, and so, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just, you know, you don't win every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people will talk about the loss, but you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to really think about all she's accomplished and

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<v Speaker 1>all she's represented for black girls and over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of her career exactly and I'm just excited. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>she got a lot of hype because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>how often do you see a face like hers on

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<v Speaker 1>a magazine New York Times magazine, She was on New

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<v Speaker 1>York magazine recently, and so I'm just really glad that

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<v Speaker 1>she got the attention she deserved. Exactly, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I agree that it was Drake's fault. Everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much like damn Drake was in the audience. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>just like went for him. Oh, I blame Kim Kardashian personally,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the easiest.

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<v Speaker 2>Why was she.

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<v Speaker 1>Drinking tea with Kim k Why the week of a

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<v Speaker 1>match like this?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, well, you know what, that's the way sarnall

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<v Speaker 2>be back. She's still in her prime. So are we

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<v Speaker 2>ready to move on to the Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So second in our bad news buzzworthy for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>So James Blake, another tennis star rights tennis.

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<v Speaker 3>He was number four at one point in the number

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<v Speaker 3>four Okay, you's not currently, but he was, and so

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<v Speaker 3>he was outside of the Grand Hyatt Hotel in New

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<v Speaker 3>York in New York. There's a video of it, so

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<v Speaker 3>you can google James Blake video and just leaning casually

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<v Speaker 3>against the hotel waiting for I guess his ride. He's

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<v Speaker 3>in the US Open, which is in town, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, you just see this man run up

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<v Speaker 3>to him, tackle him to the ground, and put handcuffs

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<v Speaker 3>on him, and it's clear that James is totally confused.

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<v Speaker 3>The police officer apparently was confused as well, because they

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<v Speaker 3>thought that he was part of a credit card scam

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<v Speaker 3>ring and they had the wrong person.

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<v Speaker 2>On top of that, the person that they.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought that he was was also not guilty of what

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<v Speaker 3>they were accusing him. So it's like one you tackle

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong guy for a crime and the person that

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<v Speaker 3>you think he is also did not do the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to watch this video because it's so disturbing

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<v Speaker 1>to see how like how many times have I just

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<v Speaker 1>stood outside a building and like on my phone texting

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for someone. He was literally just relaxed and chill

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<v Speaker 1>on the side, and then this cop comes out of

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere and just flat out tackles him. No Miranda rights,

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<v Speaker 1>no high can I see your identification? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing here, sir? Or He didn't look like he was

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, even if he was up to something

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<v Speaker 1>like he there was like he probably wasn't gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>for like there's people around, and then to see him

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<v Speaker 1>get tackled, and then you see in the video people

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<v Speaker 1>watching him and looking at him on the ground getting handcuffed,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking from like if that were me, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be so mortified.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and scared and terrified. Yeah, he said in an interview,

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<v Speaker 3>like I was really, I was so scared. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say anything because what did you say? This person just

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<v Speaker 3>runs and tackles it. He doesn't even fight back. He's

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<v Speaker 3>just you could tell that he's stunned, like what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That cop has like has had five other citations.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this is a disturbing part, yes, of aggressive behavior

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<v Speaker 1>towards citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is not someone who hasn't done this before.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course the the police commission, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to cover their bases by saying, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking into it and we're not really sure what's

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<v Speaker 3>really going No, it's clear in the video that he

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<v Speaker 3>ran up on someone because he thought he looked like someone.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no struggle, there was no we told him

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<v Speaker 3>to stop, but we had to bring him down. R

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there was no can we speak to you, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that it's happened several and that was

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<v Speaker 1>I think five times just in the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows over the course of this guy's career, how

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<v Speaker 1>many brown men, black men he has just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>without any cause, has just tackled to the ground like

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<v Speaker 1>that and embarrassed. You know, It's unfortunate that it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity mm hmm, someone who has a public profile,

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<v Speaker 1>who can get on the Today Show and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it and put a voice to this. But I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of glad it happened because I mean, for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a man just chilling like in Harlem or Brooklyn outside

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you know, on the corner, just minding his

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<v Speaker 1>own business, who gets taken like that. Those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>people can end up in jail for absolutely no reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we didn't mention with James, but I believe he's

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<v Speaker 2>half white, half black.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's so, he's lighter skinned and a celebrity. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that plays into why people are maybe paying

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<v Speaker 1>more attention exactly. But this isn't the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>a black celebrity has been wrongfully. Remember there was that

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<v Speaker 1>like Hollywood producer who was at lunch in Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 1>or some like really nice place, like he was having

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<v Speaker 1>lunch at a nice place in La somewhere, and out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, a cop just comes.

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<v Speaker 2>And arrests him.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he was saying that he was, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>suspect in a robbery or some sort of like shoplifting incident.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another example of this is so crazy stupidity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, so sorry for the downer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't ignore these two stories.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do it. Next to our agenda, is it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A brown break?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh lord, brown break. If you guys have forgotten,

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<v Speaker 1>let's refresh your memory. Brown break is just something that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening that we just can't with. We just can't anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a brown break from x y Z. We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Tiffany's had a break from Donald Trump. I've

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<v Speaker 1>taken a break from internet trolls and white feminism and

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<v Speaker 1>white feminism, and we have some excellent, much needed breaks

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I'm going to take a brown break.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think every woman can feel me on this,

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<v Speaker 3>from cat calling and unwanted aggressive just attention for men.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean I think every woman at some point

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<v Speaker 3>has walked down the street, especially if you live in

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<v Speaker 3>a city and you know a man has said something

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<v Speaker 3>to you that was inappropriate anywhere from you know, hey

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful and you keep walking to being super aggressive. I

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<v Speaker 3>can remember, in particular, a man I was I forget

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<v Speaker 3>what city I was in. I was just walking down

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<v Speaker 3>the street. He approached me, and you know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>nice because I believe in, you know, being nice if

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<v Speaker 3>you're nice to me, and I told him no, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you when he asked me for my number or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is that he wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I walked away, he began to follow.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and yell at me and cursed at me up

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<v Speaker 3>the street for about two blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>I was terrified.

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<v Speaker 3>I was almost afraid to run because I thought I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like he has this animalistic instinct that if I

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<v Speaker 3>ran that he was going to physically attack me. So

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<v Speaker 3>I like, you know, I walked calmly, but I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>around and people said nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>As it's really there's people around mm.

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<v Speaker 3>As this man walked up the street, and so sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>men think, Like a friend of mine told me, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sound school, she's beautiful. She didn't even say

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<v Speaker 3>anything she's so stuck up, and I had to tell

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<v Speaker 3>And I told him, I said, you don't understand how

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<v Speaker 3>many times that women have been in danger because of

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<v Speaker 3>a man who thought she was beautiful and said something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not you, you're taking it personally. She's protecting herself

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<v Speaker 3>because me acknowledging you, or me saying okay or thank

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<v Speaker 3>you or whatever might put me in danger. So I've

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<v Speaker 3>learned to ignore men when they say things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not because I'm trying to be rude or nasty.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because I've had men follow me up the street

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<v Speaker 3>or cursed me out, or threatened me or get angry

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<v Speaker 3>when I've decided I told them I've had a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm just so over you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm glad that there's been a lot of there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot more talking about street harassment lately. There's

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<v Speaker 1>actually this group in New York called Holliback, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a nonprofit run by I'm pretty sure this young woman

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<v Speaker 1>who started a nonprofit to end street harassment and raise

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<v Speaker 1>awareness of street harassment.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was that BuzzFeed video.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that buzz vie while of that girl who wore

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<v Speaker 1>or someone filmed her walking from like the Bronx all

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<v Speaker 1>the way down through New York and all like she

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<v Speaker 1>had so many men come out and like can't call

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<v Speaker 1>her name.

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<v Speaker 3>You see the ones I like the ones where they

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<v Speaker 3>have the father or the boyfriend, like sitting with your

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<v Speaker 3>daughter or their girlfriend, and they put a video on

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<v Speaker 3>the daughter or the girlfriend and the father sits with

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<v Speaker 3>her and watches really and then so because they want

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<v Speaker 3>men to see, this is what your daughter's going through.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you putting someone else's daughter through this? Or this

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<v Speaker 3>is what your girlfriend is going through? Have you done

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<v Speaker 3>this to someone else's girlfriend? And you could just see

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<v Speaker 3>how upset the men are that the women in their

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<v Speaker 3>lives are going through this.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you have, just like you, have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>tried to explain I have a hard time trying to explain,

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<v Speaker 1>like if so, if something happens. So there's been days

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<v Speaker 1>where I like to work a lot, and there's days

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<v Speaker 1>where men will yell at me while I'm biking. One time, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>some guy he stepped I was it was dark, I

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<v Speaker 1>was going down a hill in Midtown, and he stepped

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<v Speaker 1>in front of my bike and just stomped in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me, just to scare me and like try and

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<v Speaker 1>like freak me out, which he succeeded in. And then

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<v Speaker 1>that earlier in the day, some guy in the street

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<v Speaker 1>called me out, and I was just I came home

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<v Speaker 1>in such a terrible mood and feeling like so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't even find the words to explain to

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend what had happened, because I feel like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to explain street harassment to a man in their minds,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, it's no big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, you you are cute, you know. You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you trying to make me jealous? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about trying to make you jealous. It's emotionally taxing.

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<v Speaker 3>It is emotionally taxing, and honestly too for me, it's

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<v Speaker 3>usually it's just a matter of like where I'm afraid, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>not not always. You know, sometimes some guys are like hey, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>You're like hi, and you keep moving. But sometimes every

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<v Speaker 3>once in a while you get that guy who just

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't seem to take no for an answer, and you're like, so,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're priming yourself, like do I have to run?

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<v Speaker 3>Like you're thinking these things I don't think men realize,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but I bet you if it would have

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<v Speaker 3>happened in front of him, you'd be upset and mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Though it wouldn't though, because those guys are cowards.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you're right, And when you're holding the hand of

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<v Speaker 1>a man, you don't get that kind of attention, which

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<v Speaker 1>pisses me off because like, I like doing my own

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<v Speaker 1>thing and yeah, being independent and free. But the unfortunate

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<v Speaker 1>thing about this brown break is that it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>take a break from something that's like out of your

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<v Speaker 1>control in that way. But hopefully groups like Hollaback can

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<v Speaker 1>raise awareness and make it easier on us.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is your brown break?

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<v Speaker 1>So I need to take a brown break this week

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<v Speaker 1>from something a little more fun but equally annoying, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the man bun. I blame several people for the

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<v Speaker 1>proliferation of this hairstyle. I know that brown men don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily rock the man bun, but some men do. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at you, Leonardo DiCaprio, Andrew Garfield, Jake Jillenhall, who's

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<v Speaker 1>that guy from that movie with Matthew mcconaughe who won

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<v Speaker 1>the Oscar, Jared leto Oh, I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is that man bun. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it's being written up in the New York Times. When

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<v Speaker 1>something like this kind of trend is written up in

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<v Speaker 1>the Times, that's when I know it's like it's time

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<v Speaker 1>you have to stop. I know it's hot out there, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, Like, it must be hard having longer hair, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not just cut your hair? Yeah, it's okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Or why can't we Why can't men learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>use like bobby pins?

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<v Speaker 3>Just it's just saying to the man. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you see that usually some guys with dreads. If it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a brown guy with a man bun,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be a guy with locks who does it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a man with locks who has a hair

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<v Speaker 2>tied back though nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do like a man with locks. This is

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<v Speaker 3>just a totally separate line. All of a sudden, all

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's mind went somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone our security guy here, dreads.

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<v Speaker 2>He's kind of always kind of older, but he looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good look.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't think I've never not looked at the

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<v Speaker 3>face of a man with locks, like if I passed

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<v Speaker 3>by guy with locks and from the back I have

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<v Speaker 3>to at least take a piece of peek at his

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<v Speaker 3>face like ooh, he's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>So please, men, if you're listening, no more man buns.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell a friend, help a friend, tell your family. A

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<v Speaker 1>man Bun's done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's done, Cut it off.

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<v Speaker 3>Today's tip this week is preparing financially for marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Dun, dun, dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>So first and foremost, So this is where I am.

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<v Speaker 3>My boyfriend and I we are talking about marriage. And

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<v Speaker 3>one of the first things I did with him was

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about his credit score.

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<v Speaker 2>I showed him was this before you moved in together

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<v Speaker 2>or after right after we moved in together?

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<v Speaker 1>Ok?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think I can't remember why. I think he said he

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<v Speaker 3>was looking to buy a car or something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, well, what's your credit score?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>Because before we go to get a car, they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to ask. So I was kind of casual with it,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, deep down inside, I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your credit card?

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<v Speaker 3>And so he was like in the load of mid

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<v Speaker 3>six hundreds, and which I was like, okay, And I

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<v Speaker 3>saw why. It was just because he had this one

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<v Speaker 3>credit card that He had a secured card, which I

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<v Speaker 3>call like the baby credit card, and he it was

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<v Speaker 3>almost maxed out because he was making small incremental payments.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told him, I'm like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you're the closer you are to your limit,

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<v Speaker 3>the lower makes your score. It was really the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing he had on there. I'm like, once you pay,

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<v Speaker 3>your credit score is gonna jump. So he paid it

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<v Speaker 3>off within three months. He's up to seven fifty excellent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And so it was that's a great conversation to start with.

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<v Speaker 3>Is credit scores definitely creating a budget. So it took

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<v Speaker 3>a little longer for us to get to the budget

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<v Speaker 3>point because the credit score thing he was interested in

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, he wanted to get a car, but

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<v Speaker 3>the budgeting thing was difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to figure out kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of like what his pain points were, like how do

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<v Speaker 3>I get up the budget and save a little bit more?

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<v Speaker 3>So he has an eight year old daughter, so I

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<v Speaker 3>would use that like, you know, you should think about

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<v Speaker 3>are you sitting aside for Alyssa's college fund? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>and if not, let's do a budget so we could

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<v Speaker 3>see how much you could set aside for a Lista's

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<v Speaker 3>college fund. So we worked through it that way. And

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<v Speaker 3>now just the other day I asked him what he

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<v Speaker 3>was doing. He' said, oh, doing my budget to see

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<v Speaker 3>if I have any money left over for something he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, when it took a year, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>slow that's you need to Yeah, it's a slow process.

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<v Speaker 1>Men are and you know obviously whoever whatever the gender

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<v Speaker 1>is of your partner that you're trying to budget with,

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<v Speaker 1>but men especially, it just takes longer for things to

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<v Speaker 1>sink in and.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like to be told, yes, how to.

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<v Speaker 1>Manage their money. I'm speaking from experience. I've been with

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend for three years, We've lived together for a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half, and I'm finally starting to see

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<v Speaker 1>the fruits of my lip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it takes the seeds have begun to sew.

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<v Speaker 3>So with your partner you have to ask those questions

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<v Speaker 3>about credit, about how much debt they have, that's very important,

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<v Speaker 3>and then what plan kind of like, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what are your plans? Like my boyfriend is a bills

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<v Speaker 3>paid on time type of guy, but as far as

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<v Speaker 3>like cash, he's not as responsible.

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<v Speaker 2>So I learned that once. It took a little while

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of learn his like system.

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<v Speaker 3>And once I did, I realized, like, Okay, if I

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<v Speaker 3>want him to do something or say something, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to make it almost like a bill in his life

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<v Speaker 3>because he's always he always pays his bills on time.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have to get to know your partner and

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<v Speaker 3>how they operate financially and kind of work within that.

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<v Speaker 3>It depends on you and your partner. But figuring out

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<v Speaker 3>what that looks like for you is what's best. So

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<v Speaker 3>figuring out a savings plan. We do have one joint account,

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<v Speaker 3>which is our savings account, and at first it was

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<v Speaker 3>for vacations. That's how I tricked him into saving. And

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<v Speaker 3>the other day he was like, we should turn this

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<v Speaker 3>savings account into a home account so we can buy

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<v Speaker 3>a home with it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my initial plan.

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<v Speaker 3>But the fact that he's come along without too much

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<v Speaker 3>pushing is really good. Yeah, So that's another thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you need help, you can always sit down

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<v Speaker 1>with a planner, like there's there. You can find a

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<v Speaker 1>fee only planner, which means that they'll they'll charge you

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<v Speaker 1>by the hour and they won't take a percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever savings you have with them or investments, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of just there like a therapist, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can sit down with them with your partner and they

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<v Speaker 1>can be the middleman, like if you're having a trouble

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<v Speaker 1>communicating with your partner, which I was having with my

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend when we moved and we moved in together. We

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<v Speaker 1>were having a lot of like communication issues around money, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And he and I wound up attending a couple's in

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<v Speaker 1>finance class actually through this group called Society of Grown

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<v Speaker 1>Ups based in Boston, So if you're in Boston, check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. And there was a financial planner there and

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of just helped us facilitated conversation and make

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<v Speaker 1>it less tense for us to talk about our goals

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<v Speaker 1>and things.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that, because you don't want money to be the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that pulls you apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, and it can so easily play your part.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, you know, that's something that you want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>and then so you want to you want to make

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<v Speaker 3>that whenever you're talking about it, that it's not this

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<v Speaker 3>like dun dun, dull conversation, you know, like it's time

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about money. So I've learned I never had

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<v Speaker 3>that weird anxiety with money because at home it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like normal talk.

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<v Speaker 2>So learning to make money normal talk in your house

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<v Speaker 2>helps as well. What's that like?

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<v Speaker 1>I was raised by a single mom for most of

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<v Speaker 1>my life and she had four kids, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought of money as this like this like

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<v Speaker 1>basically a form of anxiety. It was never there where

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<v Speaker 1>it was it? Could we get it? Like it was

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<v Speaker 1>like this elusive thing. I had to really work on

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<v Speaker 1>my relationship with money as I grew up. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that kind of stuff turns up in relationship. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, I'm super afraid of not having money and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm obsessed with saving and that can and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if your partner's not in the same page as you,

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<v Speaker 1>that can be like a point of contention. And I yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's like a final thing. Just expectations are everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to really like figure out what your partner's

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<v Speaker 1>expectations are for their savings and money goals, and like

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<v Speaker 1>what your expectations are and then try and find a

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<v Speaker 1>common ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, agreed. Communication is key And if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys have any more questions about money and marriage, money

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<v Speaker 1>and relationships, please send us an email. Our email address

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<v Speaker 1>again is Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're bac back and it's time for brown brilliance.

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<v Speaker 3>So we called it Wins earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've had an identity change. No longer Wins. We're

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<v Speaker 1>calling it Brown Brilliant, play off of black excellence, Brown brilliance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what's rest time? How do you feel about it?

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<v Speaker 2>We might still keep it even if you don't agree.

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<v Speaker 3>But cowen exactly, And so really brilliance is when we

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<v Speaker 3>just highlight some brown awesomeness that's happening on the interwebs,

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<v Speaker 3>on the internet. And so if you know of any

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<v Speaker 3>awesome brown people doing some awesome brown people things, you

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<v Speaker 3>can tweet us at the BA podcast. You can find

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<v Speaker 3>us on Facebook at Brown Ambition, and you can email

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<v Speaker 3>us at Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to kick off because I don't know I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you like to hog them, like, just keep it real,

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<v Speaker 1>so brown yesterday, I'm just going to keep it anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, so I did teex yesterday, But the

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<v Speaker 3>brown and brown brilliance of this week for me is

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<v Speaker 3>not going to go for me. Instead, it's for Nate Burkhard.

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<v Speaker 3>He brought the very first Tedex Newark to Newark. Newark

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<v Speaker 3>has been long troubled with crime and all of these

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<v Speaker 3>kind of negative, negative news that you've seen about Nework.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was something positive and amazing and awesome. And

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<v Speaker 3>ted X is a international brand and for it to

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<v Speaker 3>come to Newark and for it to be done well,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm super excited about it. And I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to say congratulations, Nate. You are brilliant in all your brownness.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe Nate is brown, Yes, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you don't have to be brown for brown brilliant. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we can open it up to everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I just want to tell him that congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>That was an awesome job.

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<v Speaker 2>Good job Nate, and good job Tiffany for being on

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<v Speaker 2>ted X. Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a real quick one to add from

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<v Speaker 1>one of another one of my favorite authors. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about authors a lot because I'm a reading

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<v Speaker 1>book nerd, but this author, her name is Jumpa Lahiri.

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<v Speaker 1>And fun fact about Joompala Heirie. If you watch some

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<v Speaker 1>Mindy project, Mindy Kaling is a huge Joombalahiri fan, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is why Mindy Lahiri's last name.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Lahiri on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But miss Lahari Jumpala Hery, the author was just awarded

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<v Speaker 1>the National Medal of Humanities from the President himself, Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>at the White House, which is a huge deal. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say congrats to her, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to read her stuff. The Interpreter of malal

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<v Speaker 1>the Interpreter of maladies. No wait, it's how you say it, maladies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the biggest brain fart, obviously I read. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really talk out loud a lot. Interpreter of maladies

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<v Speaker 1>and the namesake. I think her latest book is called

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<v Speaker 1>The Lowland. Just check her out. Excellent fiction. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you know, relates to the Indian immigrant experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So good for you. Jumpa.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I was gonna call her Jupola, but because you

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<v Speaker 3>corrected me that her name is actually Jumpa and then Lahiri. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's a kind of like a Nigerian way of

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<v Speaker 3>doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>A good jobble. They're like, oh, your name is what

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<v Speaker 2>that's cute. Your name is Veronica. Your name is Vero.

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying earlier, you guys missed it. That was

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<v Speaker 3>going to give Mandy a Nigerian esque name. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to think of how to do so I'm gonna that way.

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<v Speaker 3>When she does good things.

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<v Speaker 2>I can wear what did you call that? The thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the the head, head, the head to gallet, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they call gallet.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the most man Nigerian weddings for another episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking. We're going to talk about Nigeria wedding. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because they are. Yes, that's a good one epic.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, we're letting you guys go Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us for another episode again.

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<v Speaker 1>Send us your questions, your comments, Brown Ambition Podcast at

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