Speaker 1: Brown Ambition, Episode three. Hey guys, it's Mandy, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming back.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, it's Tiffany.
Speaker 1: Hey hey hey. So that's like your trademark. Is that
Speaker 1: from SNL?
Speaker 3: No, it's from fed Albert. I say it like whenever
Speaker 3: I speak on stage and stuff, I say, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what or either faed Albert or that
Speaker 3: old show like, oh my gosh, somebody's gonna know. It's
Speaker 3: like this old show with Shirley and Rod and what's happening?
Speaker 1: What's Oh maybe that's my Maybe. I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: where the age difference comes into play.
Speaker 3: I'm thirty five. Somebody's gonna know what's happening. And if
Speaker 3: you do, please tweet us at the BA podcast. Yes,
Speaker 3: at the BA podcast on Twitter. You'll know what's happening.
Speaker 3: If you're thirty five or older, you know that show.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I have to start off by saying congratulations because Tiffany
Speaker 1: just gave her first te X talk I guess well
Speaker 1: yesterday on Saturday.
Speaker 3: So congratt, Yeah, thank you. It was very nerve wracking.
Speaker 3: It was nervous. I've been planning for months and it's
Speaker 3: done and I'm proud of my work and so I
Speaker 3: can't wait to share it soon.
Speaker 2: Excellent.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna start off the Buzzworthy segment. It's a
Speaker 1: sports themed edition of Buzzworthy, which I don't hope you
Speaker 1: guys won't mind starting. Let's start what good or bad?
Speaker 2: First? Let's start was Good's? Well, it's actually they're both
Speaker 2: kind of bad. Oh yeah, I just realized, Well, Serena,
Speaker 2: that's not so bad. That's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, so everyone probably knows by now that Serena Williams,
Speaker 1: the great, amazing, inspirational Serena Williams lost her bid for
Speaker 1: the US Open Championship, which also meant that she's not
Speaker 1: going to break the record for the most wins in
Speaker 1: a calendar year or something like that.
Speaker 3: Basically winning every major tournament in a calendar This was
Speaker 3: the last tournament that she had to win.
Speaker 2: Did you watch it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I can't watch them. It's just too nerve racking. I
Speaker 3: grew up playing tennis. I played tennis since I was
Speaker 3: like four or five years old, and she was one
Speaker 3: of my idols. I was tennis team captain in high school,
Speaker 3: and so I just get too nervous to watch her.
Speaker 2: Well, I was watching on Twitter. I was.
Speaker 1: I was on Twitter at work on Friday, and I
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Roxane Gay, this writer I've read
Speaker 1: I talk about sometimes she was tweeting like a second,
Speaker 1: like every second she was tweeting like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, Serena. No, no girl, though, Drake, it's your fault.
Speaker 1: And then so I turned it on and I'm at
Speaker 1: my desk and I probably caught the last like five
Speaker 1: minutes of the match when it was like not going
Speaker 1: well for Serena. And then I don't really so I
Speaker 1: don't watch tennis. I think I played tennis on the
Speaker 1: Wii like twice, and so I don't know how how
Speaker 1: the points work. Okay, when I was watching Venus versus Serena,
Speaker 1: I was, I watched the whole thing, but I was.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, get her, yeah, like if someone's.
Speaker 1: Winning, right, I just kind of waited for the announcer
Speaker 1: to tell me who was up. Okay, So I was
Speaker 1: watching the last five minutes and I could tell things
Speaker 1: weren't going well. And then finally when like Roberta Vinci,
Speaker 1: congratulations by the way, I gets yeah, when she hit
Speaker 1: that last game winning point point, right, yeah, all of it.
Speaker 1: So I was at my desk, and I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that everyone around me was also watching the match, and
Speaker 1: so were my editor and I were like oh at
Speaker 1: the same time, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you're watching it. I was trying to watch
Speaker 2: it all the down. Ye, well, everybody's watching.
Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, Serena, I mean, hopefully
Speaker 3: she understands like how amazing she is.
Speaker 2: And it was just so much pressure, so much hype.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and honestly because honest obviously, I mean no offense
Speaker 3: to Aberta, but you know, Serena's number one. I think
Speaker 3: Roberta's number.
Speaker 2: Like forty something. She wasn't even ranked, I don't think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so not to you know, take away from her win,
Speaker 3: because she she did win, but Serena to me is
Speaker 3: the best player in the world in that.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would argue with that, you know, as.
Speaker 3: Far as Tedus is concerned women's tennis, and so, you know,
Speaker 3: it was just, you know, you don't win every time.
Speaker 1: I think people will talk about the loss, but you can't.
Speaker 1: You have to really think about all she's accomplished and
Speaker 1: all she's represented for black girls and over the course
Speaker 1: of her career exactly and I'm just excited. I'm glad
Speaker 1: she got a lot of hype because I feel like,
Speaker 1: how often do you see a face like hers on
Speaker 1: a magazine New York Times magazine, She was on New
Speaker 1: York magazine recently, and so I'm just really glad that
Speaker 1: she got the attention she deserved. Exactly, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I agree that it was Drake's fault. Everyone was
Speaker 1: pretty much like damn Drake was in the audience. Everyone
Speaker 1: just like went for him. Oh, I blame Kim Kardashian personally,
Speaker 1: because that's the easiest.
Speaker 2: Why was she.
Speaker 1: Drinking tea with Kim k Why the week of a
Speaker 1: match like this?
Speaker 2: I know, well, you know what, that's the way sarnall
Speaker 2: be back. She's still in her prime. So are we
Speaker 2: ready to move on to the Yeah?
Speaker 1: So second in our bad news buzzworthy for the week,
Speaker 1: So James Blake, another tennis star rights tennis.
Speaker 3: He was number four at one point in the number
Speaker 3: four Okay, you's not currently, but he was, and so
Speaker 3: he was outside of the Grand Hyatt Hotel in New
Speaker 3: York in New York. There's a video of it, so
Speaker 3: you can google James Blake video and just leaning casually
Speaker 3: against the hotel waiting for I guess his ride. He's
Speaker 3: in the US Open, which is in town, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you just see this man run up
Speaker 3: to him, tackle him to the ground, and put handcuffs
Speaker 3: on him, and it's clear that James is totally confused.
Speaker 3: The police officer apparently was confused as well, because they
Speaker 3: thought that he was part of a credit card scam
Speaker 3: ring and they had the wrong person.
Speaker 2: On top of that, the person that they.
Speaker 3: Thought that he was was also not guilty of what
Speaker 3: they were accusing him. So it's like one you tackle
Speaker 3: the wrong guy for a crime and the person that
Speaker 3: you think he is also did not do the crime.
Speaker 1: You have to watch this video because it's so disturbing
Speaker 1: to see how like how many times have I just
Speaker 1: stood outside a building and like on my phone texting
Speaker 1: waiting for someone. He was literally just relaxed and chill
Speaker 1: on the side, and then this cop comes out of
Speaker 1: nowhere and just flat out tackles him. No Miranda rights,
Speaker 1: no high can I see your identification? What are you
Speaker 1: doing here, sir? Or He didn't look like he was
Speaker 1: even you know, even if he was up to something
Speaker 1: like he there was like he probably wasn't gonna run
Speaker 1: for like there's people around, and then to see him
Speaker 1: get tackled, and then you see in the video people
Speaker 1: watching him and looking at him on the ground getting handcuffed,
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking from like if that were me, I
Speaker 1: would be so mortified.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and scared and terrified. Yeah, he said in an interview,
Speaker 3: like I was really, I was so scared. I didn't
Speaker 3: say anything because what did you say? This person just
Speaker 3: runs and tackles it. He doesn't even fight back. He's
Speaker 3: just you could tell that he's stunned, like what is happening?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: That cop has like has had five other citations.
Speaker 1: Of this is a disturbing part, yes, of aggressive behavior
Speaker 1: towards citizens.
Speaker 3: So this is not someone who hasn't done this before.
Speaker 3: And of course the the police commission, you know, they're
Speaker 3: trying to cover their bases by saying, well, you know,
Speaker 3: we're looking into it and we're not really sure what's
Speaker 3: really going No, it's clear in the video that he
Speaker 3: ran up on someone because he thought he looked like someone.
Speaker 3: There was no struggle, there was no we told him
Speaker 3: to stop, but we had to bring him down. R
Speaker 3: you know, there was no can we speak to you, sir.
Speaker 1: And the fact that it's happened several and that was
Speaker 1: I think five times just in the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: Who knows over the course of this guy's career, how
Speaker 1: many brown men, black men he has just you know,
Speaker 1: without any cause, has just tackled to the ground like
Speaker 1: that and embarrassed. You know, It's unfortunate that it takes
Speaker 1: a celebrity mm hmm, someone who has a public profile,
Speaker 1: who can get on the Today Show and talk about
Speaker 1: it and put a voice to this. But I'm kind
Speaker 1: of glad it happened because I mean, for you know,
Speaker 1: a man just chilling like in Harlem or Brooklyn outside
Speaker 1: of it, you know, on the corner, just minding his
Speaker 1: own business, who gets taken like that. Those kind of
Speaker 1: people can end up in jail for absolutely no reason.
Speaker 2: Oh, we didn't mention with James, but I believe he's
Speaker 2: half white, half black.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so, he's lighter skinned and a celebrity. So
Speaker 1: I think that plays into why people are maybe paying
Speaker 1: more attention exactly. But this isn't the first time that
Speaker 1: a black celebrity has been wrongfully. Remember there was that
Speaker 1: like Hollywood producer who was at lunch in Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: or some like really nice place, like he was having
Speaker 1: lunch at a nice place in La somewhere, and out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, a cop just comes.
Speaker 2: And arrests him.
Speaker 1: Apparently he was saying that he was, you know, a
Speaker 1: suspect in a robbery or some sort of like shoplifting incident.
Speaker 1: That's another example of this is so crazy stupidity.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, so sorry for the downer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Can't ignore these two stories.
Speaker 3: I can't do it. Next to our agenda, is it's.
Speaker 2: A brown break?
Speaker 1: Yes, oh lord, brown break. If you guys have forgotten,
Speaker 1: let's refresh your memory. Brown break is just something that's
Speaker 1: happening that we just can't with. We just can't anymore.
Speaker 1: We need a brown break from x y Z. We've
Speaker 1: talked about Tiffany's had a break from Donald Trump. I've
Speaker 1: taken a break from internet trolls and white feminism and
Speaker 1: white feminism, and we have some excellent, much needed breaks
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm going to take a brown break.
Speaker 3: And I think every woman can feel me on this,
Speaker 3: from cat calling and unwanted aggressive just attention for men.
Speaker 3: So I mean I think every woman at some point
Speaker 3: has walked down the street, especially if you live in
Speaker 3: a city and you know a man has said something
Speaker 3: to you that was inappropriate anywhere from you know, hey
Speaker 3: beautiful and you keep walking to being super aggressive. I
Speaker 3: can remember, in particular, a man I was I forget
Speaker 3: what city I was in. I was just walking down
Speaker 3: the street. He approached me, and you know, I was
Speaker 3: nice because I believe in, you know, being nice if
Speaker 3: you're nice to me, and I told him no, thank
Speaker 3: you when he asked me for my number or whatever
Speaker 3: it is that he wanted.
Speaker 2: And as I walked away, he began to follow.
Speaker 3: Me and yell at me and cursed at me up
Speaker 3: the street for about two blocks.
Speaker 2: I was terrified.
Speaker 3: I was almost afraid to run because I thought I
Speaker 3: felt like he has this animalistic instinct that if I
Speaker 3: ran that he was going to physically attack me. So
Speaker 3: I like, you know, I walked calmly, but I'm looking
Speaker 3: around and people said nothing.
Speaker 2: As it's really there's people around mm.
Speaker 3: As this man walked up the street, and so sometimes
Speaker 3: men think, Like a friend of mine told me, like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, sound school, she's beautiful. She didn't even say
Speaker 3: anything she's so stuck up, and I had to tell
Speaker 3: And I told him, I said, you don't understand how
Speaker 3: many times that women have been in danger because of
Speaker 3: a man who thought she was beautiful and said something.
Speaker 3: It's not you, you're taking it personally. She's protecting herself
Speaker 3: because me acknowledging you, or me saying okay or thank
Speaker 3: you or whatever might put me in danger. So I've
Speaker 3: learned to ignore men when they say things like that.
Speaker 3: It's not because I'm trying to be rude or nasty.
Speaker 3: It's because I've had men follow me up the street
Speaker 3: or cursed me out, or threatened me or get angry
Speaker 3: when I've decided I told them I've had a boyfriend.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm just so over you.
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad that there's been a lot of there's
Speaker 1: been a lot more talking about street harassment lately. There's
Speaker 1: actually this group in New York called Holliback, which is
Speaker 1: a nonprofit run by I'm pretty sure this young woman
Speaker 1: who started a nonprofit to end street harassment and raise
Speaker 1: awareness of street harassment.
Speaker 2: And then there was that BuzzFeed video.
Speaker 1: Remember that buzz vie while of that girl who wore
Speaker 1: or someone filmed her walking from like the Bronx all
Speaker 1: the way down through New York and all like she
Speaker 1: had so many men come out and like can't call
Speaker 1: her name.
Speaker 3: You see the ones I like the ones where they
Speaker 3: have the father or the boyfriend, like sitting with your
Speaker 3: daughter or their girlfriend, and they put a video on
Speaker 3: the daughter or the girlfriend and the father sits with
Speaker 3: her and watches really and then so because they want
Speaker 3: men to see, this is what your daughter's going through.
Speaker 3: Are you putting someone else's daughter through this? Or this
Speaker 3: is what your girlfriend is going through? Have you done
Speaker 3: this to someone else's girlfriend? And you could just see
Speaker 3: how upset the men are that the women in their
Speaker 3: lives are going through this.
Speaker 1: But if you have, just like you, have you ever
Speaker 1: tried to explain I have a hard time trying to explain,
Speaker 1: like if so, if something happens. So there's been days
Speaker 1: where I like to work a lot, and there's days
Speaker 1: where men will yell at me while I'm biking. One time, actually,
Speaker 1: some guy he stepped I was it was dark, I
Speaker 1: was going down a hill in Midtown, and he stepped
Speaker 1: in front of my bike and just stomped in front
Speaker 1: of me, just to scare me and like try and
Speaker 1: like freak me out, which he succeeded in. And then
Speaker 1: that earlier in the day, some guy in the street
Speaker 1: called me out, and I was just I came home
Speaker 1: in such a terrible mood and feeling like so bad,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't even find the words to explain to
Speaker 1: my boyfriend what had happened, because I feel like trying
Speaker 1: to explain street harassment to a man in their minds,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it's no big deal.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you you are cute, you know. You're like,
Speaker 2: that's the point.
Speaker 1: Where are you trying to make me jealous? I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not about trying to make you jealous. It's emotionally taxing.
Speaker 3: It is emotionally taxing, and honestly too for me, it's
Speaker 3: usually it's just a matter of like where I'm afraid, honestly,
Speaker 3: not not always. You know, sometimes some guys are like hey, beautiful,
Speaker 3: You're like hi, and you keep moving. But sometimes every
Speaker 3: once in a while you get that guy who just
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to take no for an answer, and you're like, so,
Speaker 3: so you're priming yourself, like do I have to run?
Speaker 3: Like you're thinking these things I don't think men realize,
Speaker 3: you know, but I bet you if it would have
Speaker 3: happened in front of him, you'd be upset and mad.
Speaker 2: Though it wouldn't though, because those guys are cowards.
Speaker 1: Yep, you're right, And when you're holding the hand of
Speaker 1: a man, you don't get that kind of attention, which
Speaker 1: pisses me off because like, I like doing my own
Speaker 1: thing and yeah, being independent and free. But the unfortunate
Speaker 1: thing about this brown break is that it's hard to
Speaker 1: take a break from something that's like out of your
Speaker 1: control in that way. But hopefully groups like Hollaback can
Speaker 1: raise awareness and make it easier on us.
Speaker 2: So what is your brown break?
Speaker 1: So I need to take a brown break this week
Speaker 1: from something a little more fun but equally annoying, which
Speaker 1: is the man bun. I blame several people for the
Speaker 1: proliferation of this hairstyle. I know that brown men don't
Speaker 1: necessarily rock the man bun, but some men do. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at you, Leonardo DiCaprio, Andrew Garfield, Jake Jillenhall, who's
Speaker 1: that guy from that movie with Matthew mcconaughe who won
Speaker 1: the Oscar, Jared leto Oh, I love you.
Speaker 2: Oh he's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: But that is that man bun. And the fact that
Speaker 1: it's being written up in the New York Times. When
Speaker 1: something like this kind of trend is written up in
Speaker 1: the Times, that's when I know it's like it's time
Speaker 1: you have to stop. I know it's hot out there, guys,
Speaker 1: I know that, Like, it must be hard having longer hair, But.
Speaker 2: Why not just cut your hair? Yeah, it's okay?
Speaker 1: Or why can't we Why can't men learn how to
Speaker 1: use like bobby pins?
Speaker 3: Just it's just saying to the man. But I mean,
Speaker 3: you see that usually some guys with dreads. If it's
Speaker 3: going to be a brown guy with a man bun,
Speaker 3: it'll be a guy with locks who does it.
Speaker 2: I like a man with locks who has a hair
Speaker 2: tied back though nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like a man with locks. This is
Speaker 3: just a totally separate line. All of a sudden, all
Speaker 3: everybody's mind went somewhere.
Speaker 1: Everyone our security guy here, dreads.
Speaker 2: He's kind of always kind of older, but he looks good.
Speaker 2: That's a good look.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think I've never not looked at the
Speaker 3: face of a man with locks, like if I passed
Speaker 3: by guy with locks and from the back I have
Speaker 3: to at least take a piece of peek at his
Speaker 3: face like ooh, he's cute.
Speaker 2: Moving on.
Speaker 1: So please, men, if you're listening, no more man buns.
Speaker 1: Tell a friend, help a friend, tell your family. A
Speaker 1: man Bun's done.
Speaker 2: It's done, Cut it off.
Speaker 3: Today's tip this week is preparing financially for marriage.
Speaker 2: Dun, dun, dumb.
Speaker 3: So first and foremost, So this is where I am.
Speaker 3: My boyfriend and I we are talking about marriage. And
Speaker 3: one of the first things I did with him was
Speaker 3: we talked about his credit score.
Speaker 2: I showed him was this before you moved in together
Speaker 2: or after right after we moved in together?
Speaker 1: Ok?
Speaker 2: I was like, I.
Speaker 3: Think I can't remember why. I think he said he
Speaker 3: was looking to buy a car or something like that,
Speaker 3: and I said, well, what's your credit score?
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Because before we go to get a car, they're going
Speaker 3: to ask. So I was kind of casual with it,
Speaker 3: but you know, deep down inside, I was like.
Speaker 2: What's your credit card?
Speaker 3: And so he was like in the load of mid
Speaker 3: six hundreds, and which I was like, okay, And I
Speaker 3: saw why. It was just because he had this one
Speaker 3: credit card that He had a secured card, which I
Speaker 3: call like the baby credit card, and he it was
Speaker 3: almost maxed out because he was making small incremental payments.
Speaker 2: And I told him, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're the closer you are to your limit,
Speaker 3: the lower makes your score. It was really the only
Speaker 3: thing he had on there. I'm like, once you pay,
Speaker 3: your credit score is gonna jump. So he paid it
Speaker 3: off within three months. He's up to seven fifty excellent. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so it was that's a great conversation to start with.
Speaker 3: Is credit scores definitely creating a budget. So it took
Speaker 3: a little longer for us to get to the budget
Speaker 3: point because the credit score thing he was interested in
Speaker 3: because you know, he wanted to get a car, but
Speaker 3: the budgeting thing was difficult.
Speaker 2: So I had to figure out kind.
Speaker 3: Of like what his pain points were, like how do
Speaker 3: I get up the budget and save a little bit more?
Speaker 3: So he has an eight year old daughter, so I
Speaker 3: would use that like, you know, you should think about
Speaker 3: are you sitting aside for Alyssa's college fund? You know,
Speaker 3: and if not, let's do a budget so we could
Speaker 3: see how much you could set aside for a Lista's
Speaker 3: college fund. So we worked through it that way. And
Speaker 3: now just the other day I asked him what he
Speaker 3: was doing. He' said, oh, doing my budget to see
Speaker 3: if I have any money left over for something he
Speaker 3: wanted to do.
Speaker 2: I was like, when it took a year, it's a
Speaker 2: slow that's you need to Yeah, it's a slow process.
Speaker 1: Men are and you know obviously whoever whatever the gender
Speaker 1: is of your partner that you're trying to budget with,
Speaker 1: but men especially, it just takes longer for things to
Speaker 1: sink in and.
Speaker 2: They don't like to be told, yes, how to.
Speaker 1: Manage their money. I'm speaking from experience. I've been with
Speaker 1: my boyfriend for three years, We've lived together for a
Speaker 1: year and a half, and I'm finally starting to see
Speaker 1: the fruits of my lip.
Speaker 2: Yes, it takes the seeds have begun to sew.
Speaker 3: So with your partner you have to ask those questions
Speaker 3: about credit, about how much debt they have, that's very important,
Speaker 3: and then what plan kind of like, you know, well,
Speaker 3: what are your plans? Like my boyfriend is a bills
Speaker 3: paid on time type of guy, but as far as
Speaker 3: like cash, he's not as responsible.
Speaker 2: So I learned that once. It took a little while
Speaker 2: to kind of learn his like system.
Speaker 3: And once I did, I realized, like, Okay, if I
Speaker 3: want him to do something or say something, I have
Speaker 3: to make it almost like a bill in his life
Speaker 3: because he's always he always pays his bills on time.
Speaker 3: So you have to get to know your partner and
Speaker 3: how they operate financially and kind of work within that.
Speaker 3: It depends on you and your partner. But figuring out
Speaker 3: what that looks like for you is what's best. So
Speaker 3: figuring out a savings plan. We do have one joint account,
Speaker 3: which is our savings account, and at first it was
Speaker 3: for vacations. That's how I tricked him into saving. And
Speaker 3: the other day he was like, we should turn this
Speaker 3: savings account into a home account so we can buy
Speaker 3: a home with it.
Speaker 2: That was my initial plan.
Speaker 3: But the fact that he's come along without too much
Speaker 3: pushing is really good. Yeah, So that's another thing too.
Speaker 1: So if you need help, you can always sit down
Speaker 1: with a planner, like there's there. You can find a
Speaker 1: fee only planner, which means that they'll they'll charge you
Speaker 1: by the hour and they won't take a percentage of
Speaker 1: like whatever savings you have with them or investments, but
Speaker 1: they're kind of just there like a therapist, and you
Speaker 1: can sit down with them with your partner and they
Speaker 1: can be the middleman, like if you're having a trouble
Speaker 1: communicating with your partner, which I was having with my
Speaker 1: boyfriend when we moved and we moved in together. We
Speaker 1: were having a lot of like communication issues around money, okay,
Speaker 1: And he and I wound up attending a couple's in
Speaker 1: finance class actually through this group called Society of Grown
Speaker 1: Ups based in Boston, So if you're in Boston, check
Speaker 1: it out. And there was a financial planner there and
Speaker 1: she kind of just helped us facilitated conversation and make
Speaker 1: it less tense for us to talk about our goals
Speaker 1: and things.
Speaker 3: Like that, because you don't want money to be the
Speaker 3: thing that pulls you apart.
Speaker 1: Oh god, and it can so easily play your part.
Speaker 3: Really, you know, that's something that you want to talk about,
Speaker 3: and then so you want to you want to make
Speaker 3: that whenever you're talking about it, that it's not this
Speaker 3: like dun dun, dull conversation, you know, like it's time
Speaker 3: to talk about money. So I've learned I never had
Speaker 3: that weird anxiety with money because at home it was
Speaker 3: just like normal talk.
Speaker 2: So learning to make money normal talk in your house
Speaker 2: helps as well. What's that like?
Speaker 1: I was raised by a single mom for most of
Speaker 1: my life and she had four kids, and I just
Speaker 1: I always thought of money as this like this like
Speaker 1: basically a form of anxiety. It was never there where
Speaker 1: it was it? Could we get it? Like it was
Speaker 1: like this elusive thing. I had to really work on
Speaker 1: my relationship with money as I grew up. And you
Speaker 1: know that kind of stuff turns up in relationship. Oh,
Speaker 1: for sure, I'm super afraid of not having money and
Speaker 1: so I'm obsessed with saving and that can and you know,
Speaker 1: if your partner's not in the same page as you,
Speaker 1: that can be like a point of contention. And I yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's like a final thing. Just expectations are everything.
Speaker 1: You have to really like figure out what your partner's
Speaker 1: expectations are for their savings and money goals, and like
Speaker 1: what your expectations are and then try and find a
Speaker 1: common ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. Communication is key And if you.
Speaker 1: Guys have any more questions about money and marriage, money
Speaker 1: and relationships, please send us an email. Our email address
Speaker 1: again is Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3: And we're bac back and it's time for brown brilliance.
Speaker 3: So we called it Wins earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had an identity change. No longer Wins. We're
Speaker 1: calling it Brown Brilliant, play off of black excellence, Brown brilliance.
Speaker 2: Yes, what's rest time? How do you feel about it?
Speaker 2: We might still keep it even if you don't agree.
Speaker 3: But cowen exactly, And so really brilliance is when we
Speaker 3: just highlight some brown awesomeness that's happening on the interwebs,
Speaker 3: on the internet. And so if you know of any
Speaker 3: awesome brown people doing some awesome brown people things, you
Speaker 3: can tweet us at the BA podcast. You can find
Speaker 3: us on Facebook at Brown Ambition, and you can email
Speaker 3: us at Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to kick off because I don't know I'm
Speaker 3: talking right now.
Speaker 1: Because you like to hog them, like, just keep it real,
Speaker 1: so brown yesterday, I'm just going to keep it anywhere.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, so I did teex yesterday, But the
Speaker 3: brown and brown brilliance of this week for me is
Speaker 3: not going to go for me. Instead, it's for Nate Burkhard.
Speaker 3: He brought the very first Tedex Newark to Newark. Newark
Speaker 3: has been long troubled with crime and all of these
Speaker 3: kind of negative, negative news that you've seen about Nework.
Speaker 3: So this was something positive and amazing and awesome. And
Speaker 3: ted X is a international brand and for it to
Speaker 3: come to Newark and for it to be done well,
Speaker 3: so I'm super excited about it. And I just want
Speaker 3: to say congratulations, Nate. You are brilliant in all your brownness.
Speaker 3: I believe Nate is brown, Yes, I think so.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to be brown for brown brilliant. Yes,
Speaker 2: I mean we can open it up to everybody.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just want to tell him that congratulations.
Speaker 3: That was an awesome job.
Speaker 2: Good job Nate, and good job Tiffany for being on
Speaker 2: ted X. Excellent.
Speaker 1: And I have a real quick one to add from
Speaker 1: one of another one of my favorite authors. I'm going
Speaker 1: to talk about authors a lot because I'm a reading
Speaker 1: book nerd, but this author, her name is Jumpa Lahiri.
Speaker 1: And fun fact about Joompala Heirie. If you watch some
Speaker 1: Mindy project, Mindy Kaling is a huge Joombalahiri fan, and
Speaker 1: that is why Mindy Lahiri's last name.
Speaker 2: Is Lahiri on the show.
Speaker 1: But miss Lahari Jumpala Hery, the author was just awarded
Speaker 1: the National Medal of Humanities from the President himself, Barack Obama,
Speaker 1: at the White House, which is a huge deal. So
Speaker 1: I just want to say congrats to her, and if
Speaker 1: you want to read her stuff. The Interpreter of malal
Speaker 1: the Interpreter of maladies. No wait, it's how you say it, maladies.
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest brain fart, obviously I read. I
Speaker 1: don't really talk out loud a lot. Interpreter of maladies
Speaker 1: and the namesake. I think her latest book is called
Speaker 1: The Lowland. Just check her out. Excellent fiction. A lot
Speaker 1: of it, you know, relates to the Indian immigrant experience.
Speaker 2: So good for you. Jumpa.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was gonna call her Jupola, but because you
Speaker 3: corrected me that her name is actually Jumpa and then Lahiri. Yes,
Speaker 3: so that's a kind of like a Nigerian way of
Speaker 3: doing things.
Speaker 2: A good jobble. They're like, oh, your name is what
Speaker 2: that's cute. Your name is Veronica. Your name is Vero.
Speaker 3: I was saying earlier, you guys missed it. That was
Speaker 3: going to give Mandy a Nigerian esque name. I'm going
Speaker 3: to think of how to do so I'm gonna that way.
Speaker 3: When she does good things.
Speaker 2: I can wear what did you call that? The thing,
Speaker 2: the the head, head, the head to gallet, that's what
Speaker 2: they call gallet.
Speaker 1: I went to the most man Nigerian weddings for another episode.
Speaker 2: We're talking. We're going to talk about Nigeria wedding. Yes,
Speaker 2: because they are. Yes, that's a good one epic.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, we're letting you guys go Yes.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for another episode again.
Speaker 1: Send us your questions, your comments, Brown Ambition Podcast at
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Speaker 2: Bye bye,