1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong's Joe Getty arm Strong. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 3: And Getty and he. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty these poles. This is not a leap. 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: There are only two choices. 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 4: You have a fifty percent chance of being right. It's 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 4: not like you picked the trifecta at the Belmont States. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 4: There's no magic involved. It's heads or tails. At the 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 4: end of this, the pollsters were wrong will quietly disappear. 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 4: The other ones will be like I told you one percent. 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 4: What did you tell us? You called eight hundred losers 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 4: who didn't have enough sense to not answer an unknown call. 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: That's all you did. The results of the polls on 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: family feud are more. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 4: Scientific than survey, says oh Bra RFK Junior, Donald Trump R. 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Nobody knows everything. I don't know. 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 5: I was in this conversation with some of the other 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 5: day and the age old conversation of have. 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: You ever been pulled? I've never been polled. I don't 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: know anybody who's ever been pulled. 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 5: I mean, it's amazing how many people are in that situation. 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 5: It does make you wonder about all the polls that 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 5: are constantly coming out. It's not like I get called 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: every other day by some major poll. I never have 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 5: been called by a major poll. 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: Right, But there's three hundred and forty million people in 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the country and a major poll polls eleven hundred. 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: People, right. I mean that's really, really thorough. 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 5: And as we pointed out yesterday, the posters would tell you, 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 5: we never claimed. 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: To be that accurate. It doesn't exist. 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: There's an expectation in America for something that doesn't and 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 5: can't exist. That's an accurate polling about presidential elections. 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: It's not a thing well, right, And. 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: They're not to blame. It's the media that's to blame. 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: This constantly saying a one point move, it appears Trump 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: is really gabblyzed on Harris's gas. 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. And when any polster would tell you no, no, no, no, 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 5: forty nine to forty seven is a tie statistically, it 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 5: says so right in our look at our graph, plus 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 5: our mind is to say somebody's ahead is ridiculous. But 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 5: they do it all the time. Move one point and 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 5: it's a headline. So yeah, you trained people to think 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 5: it's a science. It's like putting a thermometer in your 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 5: mouth and figuring out one degree in your temperature, which 47 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 5: you know is a. 48 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Deal, but polling is not. 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: No, no, indeed more important than that's certainly a peanut. 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: The squirrel update. 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: I was late to this story. I saw all the headlines. 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 5: I did not grasp the significance of the peanut the 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: squirrel story, and I am late to being outraged, where 54 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 5: some of you have been outraged now for quite a while. 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 5: It's freaking, yeah, unbelievable that this happened. 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, in a in a country, in particularly a state, 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: a blue state where lawlessness is running anock. 58 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, boy, you put into the context of current society, 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 5: and it's extra outrageous. 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: And the authorities raid this couple's house. They're there for 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: five hours, grilling the woman about our immigration status. 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: They order you out of the house and you're sitting 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: on the curb while feds go through all your stuff 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 5: because you got a squirrel in your home. 65 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: And you can't pee unless they come with you to 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: keep you from hiding evidence of what squirrel trafficking and 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: and so. And then they take away these people's pets 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: because they could be dangerous and euthanize them even though 69 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: they've been living with them for years. Just it's it's 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: the sort of brutality by bureaucrat. Yeah, that and that's 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: that's that's the importance of it. It is unelected, unaccountable 72 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: bureaucrats with powers far beyond what you think they have. 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: And please the New York State Anti squirrel Police, I 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: don't know, Wildlife Commission, whatever they are, their. 75 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: Powers are are are are ants. 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Compared to the EPA, for instance, the Department of Energy, 77 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: you know in cal Unicorny. I just read an outrageous 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: couple of stories about the Air Resources Board, which. 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: Is just running a muck anyway. 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's the oppression of the bureaucracy that 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: it's all about. 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: Now here's the twist, Jack, What I. 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 5: Was gonna say. I came across some mem yesterday I 84 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: thought was really good. There's a Babylon Bee headline. 85 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, do do everything you got before I get to 86 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: the twist, because once I hit you with the twist, 87 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: it's gonna go down that. 88 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: Road at one hundred miles. 89 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 5: Fron, Well, this is not about the squirrel thing specifically, 90 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 5: but the word you just used. Babylon Bee's headline was 91 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 5: If Trump wins, it will win bureaucracy as we know it, 92 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 5: which uh uh you know is what Elon musk goal 93 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 5: is to end bureaucracy as we know it. 94 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: That I am all on board for. Yeah, I love 95 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: that idea, all right? 96 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: So who rated out the long goes that's the family and. 97 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: You rat out a squirrel? Is that does that work 98 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: that way? Three? 99 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: That is probably an unfortunate metaphor choice of words. Anyway, 100 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: who ratted out the squirrel? 101 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: And why the squirrel was nationally famous? Right? I have 102 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: been following Stagram TikTok famous squirrel. 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 5: I do not follow uh influencer rodents on Instagram like 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: many of you do. 105 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: Well, then you don't know what you're talking about. 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: In the pantheon of famous squirrels, Peanut sets in the 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: highest highest stratch. 108 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 5: So if you had a mount rushmore of park animals 109 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: with Instagram pages, oh yes, peanut. 110 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: The squirrel would be on it. 111 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, domesticated common rodents, the peanut is their 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: king anyway, So the couple believes that their financial success 113 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: partly fueled by Peanut and his extremely big Instagram slash. 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: I think TikTok presence may have made people jealous of 115 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: them because they become very wealthy through Peanut and the 116 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and the really neglected. 117 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Mister X. 118 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: In this scenario, which was the raccoon, yes name, I 119 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: do not recall Skippy. 120 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 2: They had Jimmy MASKI yes, Katie, who is the raccoon? 121 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 6: It's Fred the raccoon and Fred a big deal influencing people. Also, 122 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 6: Fred and Peanut both big. Actually have been following Peanut 123 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 6: and Fred for a while. Peanut wears cowboy hat. It's 124 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 6: a great show. Yeah, oh interesting. So you were pre 125 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 6: this blowing up. You were into Fred the raccoon and 126 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 6: Peanut the squirrel. Yes, okay, there you go. 127 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: And they would dress up finding this out. 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 5: Yes, and you should be working the Peanut desh. So 129 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 5: tell us so before Jill ruins the whole story as 130 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 5: eal and I will. 131 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: What was the appeal? 132 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 5: And I'm not mocking it because I like a good funny, 133 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 5: you know, break from life myself. 134 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 6: It was just life with a squirrel and he would 135 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 6: sit the guy, the owner would sit there and eat breakfast, 136 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 6: and Peanut would sit on the table holding a little 137 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 6: post it note that had a sign on it. 138 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was just fun. It sounds charming 139 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: till the federal government killed Peanut. 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: The squirrel tragic or the state anyway. So why are 141 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: people jealous of these people in their money? Well, not 142 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: only have they made a hell of a lot of 143 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: money off of Peanut, but they've used at least a 144 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: little bit Peanut and his friend Fred to promote their 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: only fans site. This young, good looking couple has sex 146 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: online and made eight hundred thousand dollars in one months? 147 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: Whoa posting their sections? 148 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: Now the squirrel of you? 149 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 5: Peanut and Fred aren't involved. Are There is no bestiality 150 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 5: going on? 151 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, they're merely at times promotional partners 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: for the adult Fair. 153 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: There's a letterman nuts joke there somewhere. 154 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, no kidding, huh okay, Well that's an interesting twist. 155 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it ruins it for me. No, No, Indeed. 156 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: The bureaucracy's overstepping their bounds or making big deals out 157 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: of nothing. I mean, god, dang it, you have me, 158 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 5: I would have been I would have probably ended up arrested. Like, 159 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: for real, You're gonna make me sit on the curb 160 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: outside my house and go through all my stuff and 161 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: I'm not allowed to go into my own home. Well, 162 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 5: they are freaking heroin addicts with loose pit bulls over 163 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: there in the park, and people can smash open any 164 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 5: window and steal anything. And my car's been broken into 165 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 5: three times and all that. 166 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: But I'm sitting here on. 167 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 5: The curb with the the the officers of the law 168 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: inside my home and I'm not allowed to go in. 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: I would have been insanely angry. 170 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: And I get laws that say you can't keep wild 171 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: animals in the suburbs, for instance, But the idea that 172 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna come to my house because theoretically my squirrel 173 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: might be dangerous and you're going to kill it to 174 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: protect me, not to mention poor Fred the raccoon. 175 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: While all this other stuff is going on, Yeah exactly. Yeah. 176 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: There have been how many murders on subways in New 177 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: York City, for instance, in the last couple of years. 178 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: It's a shocking number women being clubbed in the face 179 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: at random by junkies illegal streets, right, Yeah, Venezuelan gangs, 180 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: millions of illegal immigrants flooding the streets and the schools 181 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: and the hospitals and the rest of it. 182 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: And they frog march. 183 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: This another unfortunate animal metaphor frog march this man and 184 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: his wife out onto the street, make him sit on 185 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: the curb for hours while they murder his pets. 186 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: So somebody rat keep the big government. Somebody ran it out. 187 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 5: The guy who was frog marched out to get to 188 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 5: his squirrel and raccoon. 189 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: Okay, right, And so many Americans have their head and 190 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: the sandling an ostrich over the whole thing. 191 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 5: And are we ignoring the elephant in the room, That's 192 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: what I wonder. 193 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: I don't think we are now. 194 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: Actually, that sort of thing makes me so insanely angry, 195 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 5: like I practically can't think about it, or I can't 196 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 5: handle life seriously, because I've run into it a couple 197 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 5: of times in my life. I used the example yesterday 198 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 5: just to explain it a little more. Where we were 199 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: looking into on our farm with all our goats of 200 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: make of either selling goat milk or making goat soap, 201 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 5: and we got informed by various people who had done 202 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 5: that and run afoul of whatever state regulations and had 203 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 5: their homes raided or fined or whatever. With all the 204 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 5: crack that's going you have the homeless population in the 205 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 5: countries in California doing whatever the hell they want, But 206 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 5: you're gonna using my taxpayer money, come sue me or 207 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: put me up against the wall while you go through 208 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 5: my home because I might have a legal goat soap, 209 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 5: I mean, makes me insane. 210 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, I would agree. But America is 211 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: a generous country, Jack And a go fund to me 212 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: page set up for Peanut is raised more than one 213 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two thousand. 214 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: To do what. 215 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: You know what I would like to say, see one 216 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: of those big elaborate like not what do you call it, 217 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: like a little mini mausoleum slash giant gravestone for peanuts? 218 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: Do you want? 219 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 5: You want like what they got in Red Squirrel, like 220 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: what they got in Red Square for Lennon? 221 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: You want that sort of thing? Yeah, that sort of thing. 222 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: Maybe you have them lie in state. I don't know. 223 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: This'll probably go to some sort of loss suit or 224 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: legal something or other. But seriously, these people make millions 225 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: of dollars doing porn. They don't need your twenty dollars 226 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: in the memory of their squirrel. 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 5: Well, okay, that's a decent point. Yeah, why are you 228 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 5: sending them ten bucks when they made eight or one 229 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: thousand dollars a month doing important. The fact that they 230 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: do horn though, doesn't change the story at all for me. 231 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 232 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 5: I'm sure he got quite attached to the squirrel based 233 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 5: on some of the videos I've seen over a period 234 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 5: of time, and the idea of the government coming in 235 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 5: ordering you out of your own home and going in 236 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 5: and killing your pet. WHOA, well again with everything else 237 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 5: that's going on, violent gangs running the streets? 238 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Illegals? By the way, Violent gangs 239 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: of illegals running the streets. Oh, that will make you. 240 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: That will make you nuts, yeah, and make you a 241 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: little militant. Maybe. 242 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 5: Ah, I don't want wild animals in my home. Squirrel, 243 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 5: I would be a little concerned about me. No way, 244 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: I'm having a freaking raccoon in my house. I would 245 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 5: think you're just just waiting for the day that it loses. 246 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: Its s and claws your eyes out right? Right? 247 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: But come on, it's not like they had a tiger 248 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: no now. 249 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: Or a bobcat. They didn't have that one of those either. Wow. 250 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Okay, and Kamala Harris on stage, we believe in freedom. Now, 251 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: all you believe in is abortion. You don't believe in 252 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: property rights? You don't believe in You don't believe in 253 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: any freedom except the freedom to abort a baby and 254 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: the freedom to show porn to kids in school. 255 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: That might your own damn business. 256 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: That is absolutely true, and I wish the Republican side 257 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: could have made a better argument about that. One thing 258 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 5: I'm noticing on all the cable news panels. That's not 259 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: a shock. Among other things we've got coming up, stay tuned. 260 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 7: I was thirty years old before I could vote. I 261 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 7: was born in nineteen thirty five. Civil rights movement was 262 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 7: high when I was about thirty thirty five years Oh, 263 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 7: I had seen so many young men and women die 264 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 7: because of a right to vote. 265 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: And I said, I've got a vote. 266 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 7: That people have to realize the price that was paid 267 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 7: for them to vote. 268 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: I've been driving Lyft for nine years. 269 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: Even when I drive locals, I ask him, maybe he 270 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 7: registered the vote. 271 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: A lot of them say, my vote doesn't count. Oh. Yes, 272 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: one voat can change. 273 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 7: A conversation, one vote can change a whole society. 274 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 5: That is a good, true, and uplifting a little speech 275 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 5: about voting. I wish the majority of our media and 276 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 5: certainly our politicians, cared about democracy near as much as 277 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: that guy or people. 278 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: Who say that sort of thing, Hey, I would agree. 279 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: They don't, and I've got some examples of that coming 280 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 5: up next segment. 281 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: More significantly, that's an eighty nine year old lift driver. 282 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Can we keep our lift drivers? I don't know, seventy 283 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: five or younger? Well, he can general. He sounds pretty 284 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: sharp and he could be really sharp. 285 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: But if I got in my lift and he happened 286 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 5: the driver happens to mention he's eighty nine, I would think, Wow, 287 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: I probably ought to be ready to grab the wheel 288 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 5: if I need to. 289 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: Eighty nine is old. That's getting up to I love this, 290 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: love his attitude though maybe yeah, I know what you're saying. 291 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah I do so. 292 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: I found this very very interesting. The good folks that 293 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: fire the Foundation for Individual Rights, and what is the 294 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: E stand for now that it's not education anymore, I 295 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: can't remember. They're the free speech people and they do wonderful, 296 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: wonderful work. They talk about, you know, various laws having 297 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: to do with going to the polls. Can you wear 298 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: a mega hat, a Harris Walls T shirt? Is it 299 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: legal to have a no campaigning zone? All sorts of 300 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: different issues that are complicated because of very. 301 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: State by state. But is it anima? Probably not. Pardon 302 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: me the E for enema. I doubt it. 303 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you take ballot selfies? There are a number 304 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: of states around the country, including some of my faves, 305 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: where it is prohibited that you take a selfie of 306 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: yourself at the in the voting boost because to say, hey, 307 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: I voted, because. 308 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly. 309 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure I've read it more than once in my 310 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: life and forgotten it because it's not very interesting. They 311 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: just don't want detailed maps of the voting places for 312 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: people to commit. 313 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: Fraud or something. 314 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: But there are also quite a few states where you 315 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: can absolutely take a ballot selfie, and the good folks 316 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: at Fire point out that the laws banning ballot selfie 317 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: stand on very shaky constitutional ground, and Fire is indeed 318 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: currently challenging North Carolina's selfie ban in court. 319 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: I like Fire a lot. 320 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 5: I just don't know if this is the best use 321 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: of your resources going after this one. 322 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: Is it? 323 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: I think it's more about the broad principles than the 324 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: specifics of it. 325 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: It's probably no photography inside the polling place, which I 326 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: can understand why you'd want that. 327 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think and again I'm half tempted to read 328 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: up on the issue, probably not tempted enough actually do it. 329 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: But the idea is, you are restricting my freedom without 330 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: a sound rationale for it. 331 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: We're not going to put up with that. Fight it 332 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: everywhere all the time. 333 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 5: One of the many reasons this was such a depressing 334 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: election coming up. 335 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: If you want to be depressed, who tuned into that? 336 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: Who tune into that? Nice job? Yeah, Armstrong and Getty. 337 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 8: If we don't show up tomorrow, it is entirely possible 338 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 8: that we will not have the opportunity to ever cast 339 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 8: a ballot again. 340 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: That is either dumb or incredibly irresponsible. 341 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: From open ruined free last night at a Kamala Harris rally, 342 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 5: It's just ridiculous to stay stuff like that. And I 343 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: know Trump is saying the same stuff, but all the 344 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 5: surguates don't need to jump on board with the candidates 345 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: and claim that the other side is Hitler or a 346 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 5: fascist or a communist or democracy ends if the other 347 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 5: side wins. 348 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: It's just it's why how could we not be better 349 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: than that? 350 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 5: As I quoted someone earlier, when people say this is 351 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 5: the most divided we've ever been, that's wrong. 352 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: But the most. 353 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: Divided and stupid we've ever been definitely true, which is 354 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 5: very disappoint. 355 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm so aghast at what Oakpriss said. I just there 356 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: ought to be and this is probably an incursion against 357 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. 358 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: But if somebody says something like that, there. 359 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: Should be heavy, heavy fines when they inevitably turn out 360 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: to be completely wrong, I'm not serious with that proposal. 361 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: But you can say crap like that. You can have 362 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: people stirred up to violence and insanity and never pay 363 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: a price for it. 364 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: That's a little frustrating, but right, what are you gonna do? 365 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 5: David Birds, who we regularly quote from his Twitter feed, 366 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 5: said love him. 367 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: I have to chuckle. 368 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 5: How all these cable news channels that have spent the 369 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 5: last thirty years pumping insane hysteria take a quick break 370 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 5: election day to tape up some patriotic bunting and talk 371 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 5: about quaint Dixville, Notch and bell Weather, Ohio and whatnot. 372 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 5: That is true, After just all the nutty, crazy, over 373 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 5: the top stuff everybody says on election day, you put 374 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: up some red, white and blue crape paper and good 375 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: old time. 376 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: He put on a straw hat. 377 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 5: Right, but more importantly, so I was, I wish I 378 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: could just grab the clip and play it of Charles C. W. 379 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 5: Cook on the National Review podcast yesterday. Now we're having 380 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 5: a conversation about where you are on the election, or 381 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 5: how you feel after election day or whatever, and and 382 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 5: his take was, how incredibly sad he is just for 383 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 5: the civic health of the country, no matter what, based 384 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 5: around all of the insanely over the top misleading stories 385 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 5: the mainstream media has gone with in the last week, 386 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: really in the last you know, on the entire Trump era, 387 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 5: but in the last several days, our most important institutional 388 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: media sources, whether it's CBS News, Washington Post, New York 389 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 5: Times or whatever, you know, talking heads that people respect, 390 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 5: acting like Trump threatened the life of Liz Cheney or 391 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: good for instance, being willing to play the abbreviated clip 392 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: of there will be a blood bath or whatever, which 393 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 5: and utterly unforgiven. 394 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: And Charles C. W. 395 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 5: Cook could not hate Trump more. I mean, he is 396 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: an anti he's absolutely man is not fit for the office. 397 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 5: But as he says, our civic health we have none. 398 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: If if Trump is not the sort of person that 399 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 5: you can with real quotes and real statistics and real 400 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 5: arguments defeat and you're gonna just go with lies. You're 401 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 5: just gonna make up crap and so as he said, 402 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 5: and this is true. And this is a situation we've 403 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 5: been in. So you end up where Trump supporters believe 404 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 5: none of the stuff that people put out there because 405 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: so much of it is untrue, and Trump haters believe 406 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 5: all of it because enough of it from Trump is 407 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 5: true because he does say and do crazy stuff. And 408 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 5: that's just that's no way to run a country, or 409 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 5: a society or a national conversation, certainly. 410 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: And neither side has any interest in hearing from respectful 411 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: dissent about a story or. 412 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: What have you. Right, you know what. 413 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: And we've discussed this question of intelligence versus wisdom and 414 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: several contexts already today. But the fact that the people 415 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: of the left, including the media, don't understand the damage 416 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: they're doing to their own influence right by for instance, 417 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: the Liz Cheney thing or the there's going to be 418 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: a blood bath thing. I mean, you give away your creditbility. 419 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Well there was the excenta javiny, but you. 420 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: Brought this one up yesterday over the weekend. 421 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: At some point I didn't follow all his rallies, he 422 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 5: says I should have stayed in the White House or whatever. 423 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: He was talking about the open borders and how out 424 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 5: of control immigration had gotten, and basically just saying I 425 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 5: should have stayed, you know, to control the border. He 426 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: wasn't making an argument for why on January sixth he 427 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 5: shouldn't have left the White House, but they used that 428 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: little clip and then portrayed it with January six So. 429 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: Constantly misleading people. 430 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 5: Does way more damage than either you're recognizing or I 431 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: don't even know what. I don't know, like I've been 432 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 5: saying now for years, I don't know if they actually 433 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: believe it, if they're so into Trump derangement syndrome that. 434 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't I don't even even know. 435 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 5: But you're helping Trump get elected with that sort of stuff, 436 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 5: and more importantly, again the civic health of the country 437 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 5: where nobody believes anything because you all make crap up 438 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 5: all the time. 439 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: Right. 440 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, But in a media environment, keeping in mind that 441 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: they as we are, in a for profit business, I 442 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: think probably very smart people have looked at the numbers 443 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: and decided that pandering is clearly the model that works. 444 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: You get a small ish but loyal audience and you 445 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: tell them what they want to hear, over and over 446 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: and over again. And that's the way to survive in 447 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: the current media environment because competition is so intense. 448 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 5: Well, we're at a new level though, or into a 449 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: new era or something. I watch all Mark Halprin's podcasts 450 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: with all the different strategists and everything like that, and 451 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 5: he tries as hard as anybody I've seen to be nonpartisan. 452 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: But he said that coverage of the Liz Cheney story. 453 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 5: Was the most egregious, over the top, especially in the 454 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 5: final days of an election, of any media coverage he's 455 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 5: ever seen in his lifetime. To claim that Donald Trump 456 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 5: was talking about lining Liz Cheney up against the wall 457 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 5: and executing her the way CBS News did, the way 458 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: the Washington Post did. 459 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: I mean, your organizations is just what do you even 460 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: do with that? 461 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: It's abandoning even the pretense of uh, honestly honesty. I mean, 462 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: you could use fancy journalistic terms about it, but when 463 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: you either knowingly say something you know to be one 464 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty degrees misleading, or you are so crazed 465 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: with your own ideology that you can't even recognize that anymore. Yeah, 466 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: you're in a You're in a hell of a spot 467 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: as a as a media landscape, and as a country, 468 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: as a people. 469 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: It is disturbing. It's beyond annoying, right. 470 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the partisan advantage the Democrats 471 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: get for being, you know, practically uniformly biased, because I'm 472 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: used to that and that's just the landscape we live in. 473 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: I cherish the First Amendment. And if you want to 474 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: use the First Amendment to pretend to be one thing 475 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 1: and do another, there's nothing I can do about it 476 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: except be better at the game than you. But it's 477 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: just disturbing on a human level that anybody would be 478 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: that dishonest, and then people would either not notice it 479 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: or not care. 480 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: Democracy can't work, No, not like that. It can't. 481 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 5: And so do we have the ability as a nation 482 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: to turn the tide back toward you know, I don't 483 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 5: know major influencers, news sources, gatekeepers who are willing to 484 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 5: call balls and strikes somewhat fairly, or as we head 485 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 5: into the world of AI and even more siloed information, 486 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 5: is it just over? Are we just doomed to have 487 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: no ability to figure out what is a true story 488 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 5: and what is not probably that one. 489 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some examples, including us of people doing 490 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: pretty well trying to call balls of strikes. 491 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we certainly have our point of view. 492 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: But when Trump says something stupid or does something stupid, 493 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: we say, boy, Trump did something or said something stupid. 494 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: It's not that hard major media, You'll get used to it. 495 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Here. 496 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 5: I can come up with them off the top of 497 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 5: my head. He should definitely not up said over the weekend, 498 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 5: if you try to shoot me, shoot through the media 499 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: to get me or something like that. I mean, just 500 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: the the former president, quite possibly about to be elected 501 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 5: next president. 502 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: Should not talk about shooting the media. 503 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: No, and tens thousands who knows of suburban women who 504 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: were thinking, you know, the open border, the inflation, you 505 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: know what I am going to vote for Trump heard 506 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: that and put their ballots in a shredder. They just 507 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: too much, too much. Yeah, for instance, so way frustrating. 508 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: Love this on a much lighter note. Latinos have been 509 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: abandoning Kamala Harris and now we have some clues as 510 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: to why, quoting the free press. They don't want to 511 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: be called Latinxes. So for a few years it was 512 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: necessary the Democrats call Latino people Latinxes, despite clear and 513 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: persistent protests. Why because Latino and Latina are gendered words 514 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: and binary ones to boot, and the Dems needed a 515 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: non binary way to speak about this population in case 516 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: any Latinxes use they them pronouns or something. Well, plus, 517 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: the whole postmodern thing, neo Marxist thing, denies that there 518 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: are any binaries. It's stupid and ridiculous. The fact that 519 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: anybody falls for it is amazing. But our entire university 520 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: system is infected in this. But anyway, literally the whole 521 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: group was supposed to accept being renamed for the sake 522 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: of any they them Latino people. 523 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: Needless to say, it didn't work. 524 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: So there's a big serious study out of Harvard University 525 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: about how it being called Latinx made Latinos turn to Trump, 526 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: and they go into a bunch of detail, but it's 527 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: it's a significant effect that it's had on the Latino vote. 528 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: The exposure to it was enough. You can imagine scenarios 529 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: that might do it. One white guy with a man 530 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: bun says something about ola my LATINX brothers and all 531 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: who hear it suddenly decide they must absolutely vote for Trump. 532 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: That very day, You'd think whoever came up with LATINX 533 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: must feel like whoever forgot to lock the door at 534 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: the Wuhan Institute of Virology upon seeing this study, here's 535 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: the punchline. 536 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 5: I still hear LATINX on NBR. Here, friends, is the punchline. 537 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 5: Do you think the authors of this study about why 538 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 5: Latinxes are going to Trump would now recommend LATINX be retired? 539 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: No? No, The conclusion is we need to shame. 540 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: The Latinxes until they accept the term. The studies co 541 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: author Marcel Roman, an assistant professor of government. 542 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: At HAVAD, wrote this about the finding. 543 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Quote, we should still be using gender inclusive language. The 544 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: problem for Democrats is that segments of the Latino community 545 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: that are queer phobic and would otherwise support them are 546 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: less likely to do so if queerness is made salient 547 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: through inclusive language. So, yes, call them Latinxes, but add 548 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: that they're queer phobic. That'll bring them over, shame them 549 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: into using the term. That's what Harvard says. 550 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 5: So that's that whole intersectionality where you have to rank 551 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 5: various groups, and apparently they've ranked the people who don't 552 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: believe in gender above people with brown skin, or at least. 553 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: The brownskinned people are the evil doers until they conform 554 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: to the white grad students orders for what they should 555 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: call themselves. 556 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: Wow, that is something that's from Harvard. Please shut Harvard down. 557 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: Breaking news before we take a break. Trump is voting 558 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 5: in Florida. He has walked into the polling place with 559 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 5: his wife at his side, who looks like a model, 560 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 5: and is leaving her sunglasses on. How do we feel 561 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 5: about leaving your sunglasses on in the polling place? She 562 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 5: has a model, so as they give you some leeway 563 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: for leaving your sunglasses on? 564 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: Just seems like an odd look. 565 00:29:54,320 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: Are they prescription? I wear prescription sunglasses and be walking 566 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: through a grocery store with my sunglasses on. 567 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: She's just standing there with Trump while he talks. Do 568 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: you honestly care about that? I mean, I think it's 569 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: a little I don't think it's a good look. Maybe 570 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: it's the flashbulbs. Maybe she doesn't like the flash. 571 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 5: Ball I think that's a good look for her to 572 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: leave her sunglasses on while he's standing taking questions. 573 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: For well host overly adamant insults online. That's all you 574 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: can do these days. 575 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, he looks way older than her. Is that because 576 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 5: he is that's got to be part of it. So 577 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 5: maybe the most interesting actual stat not like conjecture, but 578 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 5: actual stat about voting that is out about Pennsylvania could 579 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 5: be huge. And I don't know what the explanation for 580 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 5: it is that, among other things on the way stay tuned, Armstrong, look, look. 581 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: Regrets, you always have regrets. 582 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 9: I can't think of any to be honest, to use 583 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 9: her expression, I can't think of any. 584 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: Look. I red great campaign. 585 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 9: I think it was maybe the best of the three. 586 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 9: We did great in the first one. We did much 587 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 9: better in the second one, but something happened and this. 588 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: Was the best. I would say this was the best 589 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: campaign in the man. 590 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 5: So interesting Trump at the polling place, voting and then 591 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 5: to answer in a few questions with his sunglassed wife 592 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 5: standing next to him like expressionless. Maybe that's why draws 593 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 5: attention to it. She's got sunglasses on as like standing 594 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 5: like a statue while we talk. 595 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: So I just I don't know what's going on there. 596 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: I have believed since twenty fifteen that she hates him 597 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: being in politics. Could she signed on to be the 598 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: trophy wife of a very rich real estate developer, go 599 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: to n alrash rights and responsibilities thereof. 600 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 601 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 5: You fly around on a plane, you go to cool places, 602 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 5: nice restaurants, wonderful vacations. 603 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: You don't not constantly scrutinized political family. 604 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 5: I could believe that absolutely anyway. So that was Trump 605 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 5: whyle him play that first. 606 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: Part to get I thought that was pretty funny. 607 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: Look, regrets, you always have regrets. 608 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 9: I can't think of any to be honest, to use 609 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 9: her expression, I can't think of any. 610 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 5: To use her expression. I can't think of any any 611 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 5: differences between you and Biden. 612 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: I can't think of any. 613 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: That was one of the most idiotic and inexplicable political 614 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: answers in the history of journalism from Kamala and I'm 615 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: calling Kamala and I'm calling the view journalists in this scenario, 616 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: which is odd. But not seeing that question coming and 617 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: not having an answer for it, that is, it boggles 618 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: the mind. 619 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: Even if you didn't see it coming, to not be 620 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 5: able to come up with something other than I can't 621 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 5: think of. 622 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: Any and nothing comes to mind. Trump was asked another question. 623 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: The possibility that you and Vice President Harris both might 624 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: not get to two hundred and seventy electoral votes by 625 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: the end of tonight. 626 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 9: It should never happen. A thing like that should never happen. 627 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 9: This election should be over. They spend all this money 628 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 9: and machines, and frankly, if they'd use paper ballots, it 629 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 9: would be over by ten o'clock. And by the way, 630 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 9: the paper ballots would cost eight percent, would be eight 631 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 9: percent of the cost. If they would use paper ballots, 632 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 9: voter ID, proof of citizenship and. 633 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 3: One day voting, it would all be over by ten 634 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: o'clock in the evening. 635 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. 636 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 5: So this is a stat that a lot of Democrats 637 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 5: are worried because of and Republicans are hopeful because of it. 638 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: And it's been holding up for a while. 639 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 5: In Pennsylvania, the number of early votes turned in, remembering 640 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 5: Biden won the state by less than one hundred thousand 641 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 5: votes in twenty twenty, so Democrats in twenty twenty went 642 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 5: into election day with over a million vote lead because 643 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: of early voting. The latest numbers out as of this 644 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 5: morning today, the Democrats go in with a four hundred 645 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 5: thousand vote lead, so six hundred thousand thousand votes less 646 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 5: than twenty twenty for the Democrats while the Republicans increased 647 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 5: theirs a little bit. 648 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: How do you explain that? 649 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 5: As Mark Alprin said in his podcast this morning, he 650 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 5: said he finds it very difficult to see how Kamala 651 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 5: Harris wins Pennsylvania with those numbers. I mean, what's your 652 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 5: explanation why Democrat votes dropped off that much while Republican 653 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 5: votes increased a little bit. That doesn't include Trump running 654 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 5: away with the state. 655 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 2: That's a real head scratcher. 656 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the Republicans increasing I could explain, but that's 657 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: precipitous drop in the Democrat votes. That's just unless there's 658 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: some sort of unbelievable groundswell of working class America moving 659 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: to the right more than even we've been talking about. 660 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's just crazy. You'd have to come up. 661 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 5: You'd have to believe that a whole bunch of Democrats 662 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 5: that voted by mail last time because of COVID maybe 663 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 5: are going to go to the polls in person today. 664 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 5: But I mean a lot, and Democrats are the party 665 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 5: of voting early, So I don't know, I don't know 666 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 5: if that means anything or not, but it's certainly good. 667 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: Well, the delightful aspect of all of this is that 668 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: sooner or later, all of these questions will be answered. 669 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 670 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: I just hope it's sooner rather than later. Longer it goes, 671 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: the more insane of this country will be. 672 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 673 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 5: I do want to talk a little bit about what 674 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 5: we will learn from this either tomorrow or a week 675 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 5: or so from now. But there's a whole bunch we're 676 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 5: going to learn from this election that could be damned interesting, 677 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 5: like our realignment, like we haven't seen. 678 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: That conversation, and more in the next hour. If you 679 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: don't get the next hour, grab the podcast Armstrong e 680 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: Getty on demand. 681 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: Subscribe Armstrong and Getty