WEBVTT - Episode 45: Mark Robinson Unleashed: One on One with the GOP's Next Superstar 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.160 Up next. How woud you know called part of the 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.960 If brutal honesty makes you uncomfortable, then this podcast isn't 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.719 for you, because today you're going to hear some straight 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.760 talk from someone who isn't afraid to tell it like 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:19.040 it is. Passionate, blunt, conservative, patriotic. The outspoken Lieutenant Governor 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.640 of North Carolina, Mark Robinson is in the House, a 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.959 rising superstar in the Republican Party who has taken a 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.360 GOP by storm. This is outllowed with Gianno called well, 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.560 Lieutenant Governor, is really a pleasure to have you. I've 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.800 learned about you recently and I follow your Facebook page 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.240 and I've been seeing the videos, and I get really 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.440 excited and fired up when I hear you speak. So 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.440 thank you for all you're doing, not just for the 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.440 party but the country. Well, thank you for having me here. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.520 We appreciate all those all those kind words. We certainly do. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.880 Thank you absolutely. Before we get into politics and the 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:59.720 issues of the day, I want to talk to you 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.080 about your upbringing. I know you face adversity with an 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.520 abusive father and you found yourself in foster care. Tell 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.360 us what life was like growing up, Where were you raised, 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.920 how did you overcome a rough childhood? Well? Uh, born 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:19.040 and raised in Greensboro, North Carolina. Uh, my childhood when 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.440 I looked back on my childhood, I had a happy childhood. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.399 But it was right with all those things. My father 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.720 was never abusive towards me or my siblings, but he 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.720 was very abusive towards my mother. Uh. They had a 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:36.039 very contentious, very violent relationship. He was an alcoholic. Uh. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.039 And he died when I was around twelve. When well, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.120 when I was twelve, I was in the fifth grade 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.520 when he died my mom. That left my mom with 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.840 five children in total. All of us were in school 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:52.880 range from twelfth grade the first grade. UM, and so uh. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:54.520 You know, she had a choice. She could either go 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.880 to work or or or go to the go towards welfare. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.000 She chose to work. She was a custodian. She did 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.200 that for a number, for gosh, for almost thirty years. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.560 She was a coustodian. And that's how she took care 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.640 of us. And I saw her have her priorities in 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.600 order and do things on that custodian salary that the 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.959 people would say was impossible, but she did it. And 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.720 that taught me a great deal about what it takes 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.200 to make it in life. What it takes to make 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:20.880 it in life, It's for you to go out and 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.440 earn your living and four your destiny. And that's what 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.200 my mom did, and that's the example from shows. She 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.480 also had a very strong faith in God, which I 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.040 you know, I sustained her as well, so uh the 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.359 primary source for strength as a matter of fact. So 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.000 uh that was that was what my offbering was like 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:39.799 like and that's what I learned. And this is uh 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.519 as like I said, it's what helped leave me to 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.760 where I am right now. Wow. And the faith in God, 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.400 I think is the critical point. And I've seen you 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.959 talk about that and viral clip after viral clip about 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.320 how how how you believe and why you believe and 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.200 why you believe this is the best country in an 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:00.400 entire world and how God Jesus Is really had his 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.400 hands on America. Can you expound on that please? Well, 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.640 you know people people don't like to admit it. You 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.320 know a lot of people that don't like to admit 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.400 the fact that the reason why uh, this country is 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.840 has been blessed because people pray for God to bless 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.560 this nation. We say it in our songs, you know, 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.639 we say it in our in our founding documents. We 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.720 we say that every everywhere, everywhere you turn around. We 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.360 always give God credit for for what he's done and 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.360 what he can do and what he will do. And 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.639 I think because of that, he hears it and he blessed. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.640 And of course we're not perfect people. We're not perfect people. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.520 We're not a perfect nation. We never have been, and 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.160 we don't claim to be. But we ultimately we know 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.800 who we is we have to answer to, and we 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.440 know who it is that oh that we owe the 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.200 credit to, and that's who, that's who we give that 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.560 credit to. And as far as it's being the greatest 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.520 nation on earth, you know, I don't see Mary. I've 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.960 read this this this morning on social media, and it's true. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.080 America is so great that even the people that hate it, 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.600 hate America, won't leave. That's how great America is. The 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.080 people who claim to hate it leads. Uh, this is 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.240 this is still the greatest snakes on our still a 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.960 place where you can make dreams come true. And uh, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:08.880 that's I mean, that's just the way it is. The 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.120 proof is, like they say, the proof is in the 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:16.480 Putt indeed it is. And like I mentioned before, viral 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:21.479 video after viral video, you really arrived on the national 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.200 scene for a lot of people in two thousand and eighteen, UM, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.000 and it was because of a viral video of you 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.360 defending gun rights in the second Amendment of the meeting 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.120 at the Greensboro City Council And that got you noticed. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.920 And from what I understand from watching the interview with 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.880 you and Governor Mike Huckleby, UM, it got over two 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:47.240 hundred million views, he said, I mean from there, I 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.840 mean you talked about what people told you you could 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.560 do in terms of creating a brand for yourself and 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.840 making a lot of money because you're this you know, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.039 this fresh star before millions of people, but you chose 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.479 to serve instead. And what got you into politics. I've 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.919 been politically aware, what I call politically aware for many 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:10.680 many years. That started way back and uh the mid nineties, 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:15.279 I guess. Uh. I had a friend who uh challenged 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.160 me to think better and uh, you know, to do 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.440 my own research. And I did that and once I did, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.360 I found out that I was a conservative and I 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.599 always had been a conservative. And then I started looking 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.039 at the two parties, the Republican Party Democratic Party, and 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.279 learning about the differences between the platforms and the differences 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.800 between the histories of the two parties, and of course 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.000 I logically fell on the on the right hand side 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.040 of the Republican Party. And uh so i'd like to 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:44.240 tell folks, you know, uh uh, being involved in politics 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.240 is not it's not really well, you have you have 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.560 an option, but here are the options. You can make 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.200 the determination of how you're governing and who governed you 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.240 or somebody else can make that determination. And somebody else 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.960 is making that determination, it's probably not going to turn 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.000 out good for you. The founders made this country so 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.000 that the people could decide who who it is that 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.960 would govern them. And when we don't take that responsibility 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.520 series we end up with people who don't have our 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.680 best interests at hard. We need to make sure that 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.880 we we take it serious and politics needs to be 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.599 something we all need to be involved. And that's like 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.920 I said that about involved, absolutely, And I love your 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.080 story reminds me of my own, which I talked about 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.400 my book Taking for Granted. I love to send you 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.240 a copy of that. But yeah, just learning the distinctions 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.400 between the parties and realizing that oftentimes, especially as black conservatives. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.040 I'm not sure what you're experiencing upbringing was, but mine 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.480 on the South Side of Chicago. I realized quickly after 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.080 our research the two party systems in the history that 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.440 we largely have been lied to about the Republican Party 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.800 and the history Democrats have did such a brilliant marketing 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.200 job to make people think that the Republican Party was 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.040 just a racist party. They created slavery, Jim Crown, all 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.240 these other things, and to find out none of that 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.480 was true was actually the Democratic Party was pretty astounding 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.880 to me and made me really, uh question the people 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:08.159 that were around me. Did you have the same experience, Yeah, well, uh, honestly, yeah. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.000 I mean, you know, when you really look at the 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.680 stories and you just you're just blown away by how 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.840 much misinformation there is out there. You know, Uh, just 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.680 one small thing you could take out of that you 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.480 take a look at, uh, or something like the epithet 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.440 that's thrown Uncle Tom. People throw that as an epithet 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.120 and then and and many of the people that use 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.200 that word don't have a clue is that where it 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.520 came from. They don't understand anything about who the character 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.760 Uncle Tom was in the book and what he did, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.840 and they don't they don't understand it all the Uncle 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.520 Tom with somebody who sacrificed his life because he refused 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:50.200 to turn away, to turn turn over to runaway girls 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.560 would run away from the horrible master Simon legree. They 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.480 don't have a clue that in that book that he 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.720 was beaten to death by two other black slaves who 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.680 would do anything to it, including beating a good man 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.440 to death at the behalf of Simon mcgree. The evil 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.480 matter when you read that book and you understand that book, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.280 it's one of the books that opened my eyes up 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.680 more than anything about what you just said about how 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.000 the Democratic Party and the leftists have turned this entire 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.440 thing around. You can see a micro calls him of 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.880 all their lives and coming to understand what that book 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.680 and that name represents. And that's just one example of 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:27.720 the way that that folks have been lied to and 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.840 this whole thing has been turned upside down. Only say 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.160 it and and of course we're talking about from a 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.000 historic perspective, but those lives continue today. And I want 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.880 to play this audio for you that a majority with 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.960 James Clapporn was just on MSNBC, and he was talking 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.560 about the funded police movement, which we know a lot 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.160 of progressives folks just generally on the left said was 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:54.960 the best way in terms of creating uh more fairness 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.920 and equality when it comes to policing in America, and um, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.000 what they believe is that the best route forward. If 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.640 you would just take a listen, I want to get 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.560 your response. On the other side, defunded police is a 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.240 non start, even the black people. And if you don't 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.920 think that's true, then look at the results of what 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.800 just happened in York sitting this election. So the proof 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.360 is in the pudding. I know what I'm talking about. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:22.000 I talked to people every day and defund the police. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.480 Is it cool around the Democratic Party? What do you 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.359 What do you think about that? From the majority with Clyburn, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.559 it just goes to show you how ludicrous the statement 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.199 is defunded police. You know, even if this guy, a 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.200 progressive Democrat, is saying it's hard for you know, it's again. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.520 You know, I've told some ideas, uh everything that the 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.920 left has it counted. They've cut counted climate change. All 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.800 the predictions they've made about climate change have not come true. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.439 They they are now their their accounting critical race theory. 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.120 We know those things are not true. There now they 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.280 now counted defunding the police. We see the horrible effects 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.320 of that. Everything that they tell it's almost like a 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:09.440 collection of I told you so. We conservatives were screaming 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.640 from the raptors. If we contained this anti police rhetoric, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:17.079 we're gonna see crime go through the route. It's gonna 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.880 go through the roof. And what has happened. Crime has 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.360 gone through the roof. So you know, Uh, it's it's no. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.640 It's actually shocking to hear him say that. Uh, admit 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.400 that in public, but he's absolutely right. It's just it 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.160 is one of the dumbest things, uh, one of the 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:38.199 top five dumbest things I think there's ever been proposed, uh, 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.760 in in my lifetime and possibly in the history of 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.840 this nation. We're talking to Mark Robinson and Lieutenant Governor 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.440 of North Carolina and rising superstar within the GOK. We've 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.640 got much more with him right after a quick break. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.720 You know what's interesting to me, and I gotta tell you, 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.880 I'm gonna be just straight up honest with you. There's 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.480 you know, obviously a lot of figures and figures in 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.000 are in the Republican Party, but you, in my opinion, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.679 you and Rhon de Santa's are the most exciting two 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.160 people in the Republican Party, and I think have the 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.520 most rolls, robust opportunity for the party. I listened to 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.080 speeches of yours and it sounds like a Baptist preacher. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.440 And I'm gonna tell you, I think that the words 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.480 in which you use, in the way in which you 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.880 disseminate your message is one in which would resonate with 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:43.120 all coalitions, all constituencies, black folks, white folks, expanding folks, whatever. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.480 You're just a truth teller. Why do you think your 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:50.160 stars is rised so quickly in the in the GOP 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.520 and national and nationally it's a matter of people have 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.960 been hungry for somebody to stand up and just tell 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.000 the truth. And too many people are afraid to stand 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.880 up and tell the truth. Know we we see it 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.360 all the time. We see folks that you know you 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.679 you know what's right. You don't people know exactly what's right. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.040 Then you have a room full of people sitting there 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.040 in in a in a collect why it would be 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.920 a school board, whether it be a city council, whether 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.360 it be Congress, and everybody in the room will know 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.120 what the right thing to do is, and nobody will 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.920 stand up and do the right thing. That's what we 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.000 need in this country. We need people that are unafraid 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.880 to stand up and just tell the truth. And sometimes, yeah, 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.400 the truth hurts and the truth sounds ugly, but sometimes 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.400 just needs to be told. And that's what people want 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.920 to hear. They want to hear somebody tell the truth. Now, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.080 I've told people several times, you know that my my 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.640 goal is not to get elected in any office. That's 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.319 not the ultenate goal. Ulten and goals to leave people 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.319 with the truth and let people here here the truth. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.560 And if they don't want to, they want to reject 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.040 the truth hunts, and so be it, so be it 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.320 reject the truth. But that's that's that's gonna that's gonna 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.320 be what I'm gonna tell people all the time, and 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.520 that it turns out that that's what the majority of 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.200 people out there they want to hear, soolutely it is. Now, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.439 you're lieutenant governor. Now in North Carolina, the governor is 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:09.000 a Democrat. You're well respected. Now tell me what what 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.640 what why did you choose to run for Lieutenant governor. Well, uh, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.439 we looked at running a lot of officers, a lot 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.480 of different officers, and when we looked at this office 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.960 in particular, we thought it was you know, it suited 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:25.280 our skill set just right. What the job entails uh 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.320 uh you know a lot of what this job entails 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.160 is having what they call a bully pull pit to 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.280 be able to push, uh, push back against things and 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.040 push for things that you uh, that you stand for. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.200 And we said, hey, you know, we're pretty good at that. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.640 I think we'll we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll try to step 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.679 into this role. And so far we've done well at it. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.640 Uh and we uh, we're gonna continue to try to 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.040 do well at because you know, the states it's doing 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.480 well right now, doing very good. But I believe this 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.960 state can do a whole lot better in the future. 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.560 But I think what it's gonna take to do a 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.960 whole lot better in the future is to continue with 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.280 the conservative prince will that have gotten us to this point. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.920 And uh so we decided to get in there and 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.200 help these conservatives here in North Carolina. They helped fight 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.559 to make this state even better. Yeah. Absolutely, Now I 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.720 tell you people don't just love you, they're genuinely excited 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.800 about your political future. So with that being said, what 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.440 is your future in the GOP? Do you have any 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:25.040 aspirations beyond lieutenant governor at this point? Well, we're sitting 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.800 down with our folks and we're talking about what we 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.920 think the next step is the best step, next best 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.760 step will be. We have to determined that yet, But 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.080 as soon as we do, we're gonna let the people 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.040 know and we're gonna try to rally wherever it is 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.000 we need a rally to get to that point. Uh. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.200 But we like said, we have not made that decision 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.040 firmly yet, but we will here pretty soon. Okay, so 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.200 not firmly. But I have to ask, and I'm sure 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.120 a lot of people are asking you this question, what 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.920 about if not the top job that being president, would 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.720 consider being someone's running mate if they asked you, maybe 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.560 round the sentence if he was to choose to run, Well, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.240 you know, right now, nothing is off the table. What 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:05.600 I want to do is I want to go to 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.680 a place where we can be the most effective for 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.480 the causes that we believe in. And if that should 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.680 happen to be, no matter what that that where that 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.160 place might be. We're all for something of that, of 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.680 that nature. We would evaluate it and we would feel 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.560 like that, Uh, it was good with me and good 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.520 with my family and good with God. We go that direction. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:26.920 But what we want to do is find out a 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.640 place where we're gonna be absolute most effective. Absolutely, And 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.320 I can appreciate that. And I'm glad that you're thinking 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.400 about that because there's a lot of folks. I'm sure 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.040 we put a lot of a lot of time and 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.920 energy behind your candidacy, with with whatever role you may choose, 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.760 I want to switch gears and move the President Biden. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.440 You said last month that President biden Is administration are 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:54.000 turning America into a socialist hell whole, and you urge 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.600 fellow Republicans to run to the trouble. What did you 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.920 mean by that? Uh, don't arn away from it. Don't 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.040 run away from it, run to it. There's trouble. There's 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.960 you know, we have we have uh, we have enemy. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.560 We have enemy inside our camp. We have a we 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.440 have an enemy that's no longer outside the gate. They 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:17.080 are inside the wire. They are actively working against this nation. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.760 I believe to bring this nation down, to bring what 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.840 Barack Obama calls UH fundamental change to our to our 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.320 system of government, and to our way of life. We 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.880 have to actively go to those people and confront those 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.960 people and confront that problem. We have to work to 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.600 make sure we get those people out of office, and 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.480 we have to work to make sure we get people 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.800 in offices that are gonna have this country's best interests 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.960 at our i e. Making sure that capitalism, our constitution, 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:46.960 and all the good things that come from and continue 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.280 to stand in this nation. So we need to confront 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.800 it headlong. We do not need to be afraid this 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.760 whole thing is shrinking away and hoping that somebody else 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.120 to do it. That time is over. We gotta step 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.840 up it. We gotta take this calls on them. We 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.200 gotta be the want to do them. Mark, I absolutely 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.800 agree with you. Let's dig into that further after a break. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.840 What are your thoughts of the current Republican Party, Because 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:15.639 I'll tell you, you know, Democrats, Uh, in spite of 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.680 their failings and all this other stuff in the policy. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:20.239 We can talk about the cultural wars, we can talk 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.160 about any number of things. They seem to be kind 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.679 of tough in a way that they all lie cheat steal, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:28.920 it doesn't matter, and they'll look you in their face 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.959 and say, oh, no, Republicans want to defund the police, 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.160 not us. Like it's like, no, Republicans were the party 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.800 of slavery, not us. No, like they would say all 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.040 these different things, which they just said something three months 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.639 ago or maybe even the day before. They don't have 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.360 a problem doing any of those things. And we got 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.520 some Republicans. I think back to the Hunter Biden situation. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.359 Hunter Biden using an inn word. We see what happened 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.760 with um the congressman when he said something about white 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.359 supremacy to the New York Times, when the white supremacy 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.960 become a bad thing, nationalism or something like that he said. Anyway, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.760 they stripped him of his comedian assignments, essentially put him 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.920 out the party. Hunter Biden. You know, no no comments 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.560 from the White House, no comments from any Democratic leader. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.520 You see Sheldon white House, the senator, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.479 belonging to a quote, as it was reported, all white 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.720 social club, but white only. That's what it was called, 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.000 a white only social club. And they won't say anything 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.000 about it. But you know, Republicans, we gotta be do 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.879 the right thing. Put folks out the party, and you know, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.520 they can do and say whatever they want. What is 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.879 the party need to do? And that's right, the right 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.159 thing to do. Let me comment on that. But what 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.600 is it that the Republican Party needs to do in 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.639 this day and time when you've got so many lives 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.720 coming from the left and also the liberal media who 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.960 perpetrate those same lives. They have to be bold and 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.560 telling the truth, just like President Trump was President Trump 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.160 over Frank Stamp to tell the truth. That's why people love. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.719 There are too many folks who, uh say, well, you know, 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.760 we shouldn't say that because that will have the wrong 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.479 kind of tone. Look, how do you call somebody a liar? 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.239 If they're somebody is a proven liar. The only way 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.480 to call that person a liar effectively is to say, hey, 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.840 you're a liar. You know, if somebody is a proven 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.840 bigger and has proven it time and time again that 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.600 they would have said bigger at things, and if push 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.560 bigger at policy, how do you call that person the biggert? 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.080 You say, hey, this person is a biggert who pushed 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.800 bigger at policies. It's time for for for conservatives to 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.679 stop being timid with the truth. I say it like this, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.240 we gotta be as bold with the truth as they 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.760 are with their lives, and often times we are not. 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.000 We've kept to around things, and we don't want to attack. 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.560 We don't want to punch, and be quite frankly, we 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.679 don't want to kick. Sometimes we need to do all 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.760 all of that and more because there are people out 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.720 there right now are doing things that are absolutely egregious. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.080 These people out of here to the pushing CRT and 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.000 pushing these on the police. And I've already openly claimed 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.639 to be so, and already openly proudly for claim to 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.240 be socialists and tell us that they want to change 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.200 the minds of our children, and tell us they want 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.240 to bring the country down. We need to fight those 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.200 folks with everything that we have, and those people that 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.959 are not doing it should be ashamed themselves. I can 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:21.120 agree with that. I appreciate that sentiment, and and thank 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.040 you for mentioning CRT also known as critical race theory 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.639 for those who may not know, I want to ask 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.320 you another question about a statement you made last month. 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.600 You said the following, the government cannot give the American dream, 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.399 but the government will give you as false hope, and 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.240