WEBVTT - LEAVING THE MATRIX (then coming back) 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:05.080 Hello, Hey, what's up. What's your name? I'm Jack, Jack, 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:06.760 What's up? How's life? 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:07.240 You know? 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:08.680 I'm living? 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:13.240 Is this the gek This is a man in a 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:18.880 gecko suits who is here right now talking to people? 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:24.040 I was I was watching an Instagram reel of and 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.840 it was Jim Carrey and he was at like some 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:32.120 awar show and he was like talking to some lady 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.600 with a microphone and he was like, nothing is real, man, 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.479 and I'm just a guy and I'm crazy. And I 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:40.680 was watching this and I'm like, I really hope I 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:45.720 don't sound like that sometimes, although I got I understood 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.760 everything he was saying when he was talking about this 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:52.400 is where this the sensation Like like Jim Jim Carrey, 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.960 I think when he's going insane, he's left the matrix. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.040 And I get what he's saying because I've also had 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.760 times where my brain left the matrix. But I'm I 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.840 you know what is full the full circle is like 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.440 the matrix is pretty good. I'm sorry I'm talking over you. 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.679 I'm just stream of consciousness going and saying. But we'll 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.360 get into just the matrix is good. It's good to 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.240 be in the matrix. The matrix is great. I was 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.720 go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.280 It's kind of funny because Sonic the Hedgehogs like brought 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:24.240 him out of the matrix. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:27.760 Wait, how did Sonic the Hetchhog? Now, wait, hold on, 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:29.600 tell me further. How do you believe son of a 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:30.960 Hedgehog brought him out of the matrix? 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.920 Whenever he was like really like he was saying like 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.960 all the depressive stuff. It was like right before he 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.840 started doing the first Sonic movie and he was literally like, 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.320 I'm done with movies, Like the next movie that gets 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.280 delivered to me would have to be like a script 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.840 written in gold. And then he started doing Sonic the Hedgehog. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.760 And he's only done Sonic the Hedgehog since then. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.320 Mm hmm so wait, so t so, how is Sonic 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.680 the Hedgehog wouldn't wouldn't doing something like a Hdgehog put 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.120 him back into the matrix. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.520 Well, it kind of like snapped him out of it, 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.920 you know, because he was saying like nothing matters, and 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.840 then well I guess, I guess I guess what you're saying. Yeah, 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.079 he kind of pulled him back in. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.120 No, well like being saying nothing matters. Okay, here a 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.240 whold on, And I'm By the way, this is a 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:20.040 two sided conversation. I want to hear your opinion on this. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.000 I'm just gonna throw it out there. The so, when 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.480 Jim Carrey is talking about how nothing matters and this 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.240 none of this is real and whatever, he has left 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:35.720 the matrix, right and then going to doing Sonic the 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.520 Hedgehog is rejoining the matrix. But part but I think 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.520 the because when you're doing so the he when he's 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:48.600 doing somea like the Hedgehog, he is like when he's 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.360 doctor Egman and he's doing a silly voice and he's 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.359 like working and he's doing stuff, and he's like attempting 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.960 to actively participate in life. He has rejoined the matrix. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.800 But I think the the hero's journey of leaving the 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:09.960 matrix ends with realizing that being in the matrix is good. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:11.080 You know. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.200 There the like you like, you know, it's a weird 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.239 bell curve of like you know that meme Do you 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:19.760 know what I'm talking about? The meme where it's like 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:25.840 a dumb guy and he's like, what's that fucking meme? 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:27.600 Hold on, I'm gonna look that. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.119 Do you know what I'm talking about? By the way, 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.000 I do not hold on. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:39.720 Bell curve meme, thanks for hanging out with me while 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.200 I do this. Okay, okay, okay, the bell Okay, the 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.720 bell curve meme. And it's like it's like a Wojack meme. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.600 Do you know what wojack is? Yeah, Okay, it's a 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:58.280 woj Okay, it's a Wojack meme. And it's like it's like, Okay, 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.000 at the beginning of the bell curve is like a 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:06.840 really like is like dumb, like idiot wojack. Right, I look, 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:08.960 you're looking at Okay, you're looking at it, right, you're 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.360 looking at you're looking at it right now. Yeah, And 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.240 it's like, uh, like I'm looking at one right now 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.159 where it's like I just do whatever I feel like, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.039 And it's that's the dumb guy. He's like in the 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.360 bottom one percent, right, And it's like that's like that's 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.960 living in the matrix. Right, that's like I I do 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:34.040 the Sonic the Hedgehog movie and I play pickleball and 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.479 I paint. It's like, this guy's a fucking idiot, doesn't 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.840 he really? And then okay, right, okay, so so at 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.719 the at the bottom of the bell curve is dumb 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.880 Wojack guy, right, and and this guy's like, I do 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:48.800 the Sonic the Hedgehog movie, and I paint, and I 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.760 play pickleball and I go to award shows and it's 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.039 like that guy's in the matrix, he's an idiot. And 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.120 then okay, and then and then at the at the 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:57.719 top of the bell curve, do you see you see, right, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.919 you're looking at the same thing I'm looking at. Yeah, Okay, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.839 the top of the bell curve, you have the crying Wojack, 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.440 the guy who's like stressed, right, that's at the top 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.680 of the bell curve. And that guy's going like the 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.800 guy at the bottom is a fucking idiot, all right, 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.760 he doesn't he realize that nothing matters and what And 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.120 he's an idiot. He's doing the Sonic the Hedgehog movie 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:21.040 and he's fucking playing pickleball and nothing matters, right, And 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.960 like that guy left the matrix, right. And then at 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.080 the end of the bell curve, the top like the 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.280 high IQ at the end of the bell curve, you 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.840 see the guy in the hood. You see that, Yeah, 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.320 that guy that's Jim Carrey going back to do Sonic 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:41.240 the Hedgehog enlightened, realizing that the end of the hero's 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:46.520 journey of leaving the matrix is fucking the enlightenment is, Oh, 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.440 I'm gonna do the Sonic the Hedgehog movie and play 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:55.480 pickleball and participate in life and society. That's the that's 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.760 like the ultimates, yea, and like that's his fucking hero's 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.600 journey is is you start dumb, You're like, oh, I'm 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.280 in the fucking matrix, and then you have an existential 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:08.080 crisis and you go, what what a fucking idiot participating 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.880 in life? And then at the end, the hero's journey 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.920 is wait a minute, the Act, the Golden Script, the whatever, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.160 it is just fucking doing the fucking Sonic the Hedgehog 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.640 movie and participating in life. That is the end of 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:24.560 the enlightenment path, you know. So that's what I think. Yes, yeah, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.520 that's the I'll show you. So that's that's what I 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.679 think he's doing. Is that's that's he's at the bottom 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.520 of he's at the end of that bell curve where 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.480 he's so enlightened that he's doing the Sonic the Hedgehog movie. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.919 I guess I don't know, that's that's that's kind of 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:38.920 how I look at it. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.400 No, I'm right there with you. It's even better because 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.120 you know you brought you brought Adriel butt in, he 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:49.080 got Keanu h He's spreading the information, he's spreading the happiness. 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:51.520 And it's like, look, you know, it doesn't have to 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.599 be this thing written in gold. That's amazing and beautiful. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.640 It's the fucking Sonic the Hedgehog movie. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:56.000 People. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.600 It's fun. It's just fun. Life. Life can just be 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.720 fun and normal, and you know it doesn't have to 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.760 be this fucking script written in gold. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:10.080 You know, I I completely agree. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.880 That's the Bell Curve. What's your name again? 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.120 I'm Jack? Jack? 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:16.480 What's going on in your life? Jack? 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.040 Thanks for thank you so much for letting me right. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.760 I got really excited talking about that. So thanks for 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.240 you're the you were you were the you were absolutely 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.880 the right guy to have on the other end of 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.640 the phone to entertain me while I go on this rant. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.880 So thank you for being that. What's up with you? 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:37.160 Man? 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.320 You know, you know, life, life, life's definitely a lot 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.559 right now. But I think I think talking about Sonic 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.080 the Hedgehog with the thurpy get Go helped quite a bit. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.480 It's just it's just it's like it's just distracting yourself, 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:56.600 which is like a weird nihilistic thing. But then again, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:57.800 you get to the end of the bell curve and 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:58.920 you're like, no, that's the point. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.280 Well it's kind of like, uh, I kind of have 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:03.559 an exodia right now? 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:06.240 What does that mean? 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.200 Uh? Like in u Yo, there's this there's this card 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.480 called exodia and it's like split up into so many 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.080 pieces because if you use them all, you just win 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.880 the game. And I was like, I was sitting here 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.360 and I'm folding my laundry, and I was a little 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.080 bummed out because I'm like I couldn't go to Comic 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:24.840 Con this year, and like all my buddies are at 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.000 Comic Con right now, and now I'm gonna be able 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.840 to just be like, yeah, he went to Comic Con. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.640 But I talked to the therapy get go while I 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.880 was holding laundry in my trap and my and my 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:36.400 snorrelaxed cross. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.120 I am I. I want you to know, I'm deeply 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:45.120 honored that I'm I'm a consolation prize for going to 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.240 Comic Con. Wait, which is it? Are you just talking 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:48.559 about San Diego Comic Con? 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.720 No, I'm I'm in Missouri's I'm in like Kansas City 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:53.280 Comic Con. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.760 Okay, how come you can go again? I'm sorry if 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:56.480 you said that already. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:01.080 I'm just just finances and didn't work out. I just 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.600 lost my job and got dumped or not, well, we 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.200 broke off. I didn't get dumped. But so I'm just 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.960 staying optimistic and finding a new job and folding laundry 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.480 and talking about sonic the hedgehog. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.120 What does that mean to be staying off the mystic? 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:17.040 Uh? 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.600 Like, I don't know. I get out of bed every day, 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.480 I go to work like, I go like a door 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.800 dash and I like you roady like, which is another 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:31.800 like delivery app see my friends, I get out? Mm hmm. 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.040 Wait what what? What is what is mystic? 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:36.200 What? 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.280 I so, I know that staying off the mystic as 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.000 a metaphor, but what's the what's the literal mystic? 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.079 Like you mean like the end of the drink? 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:45.960 Start one more time? 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.160 What did you said staying off the mystic? What is 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:48.640 the mystic? 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:50.959 Oh see optimistic? 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:56.480 Oh oh oh oh oh interesting? Okay, I thought you 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.400 said you've been staying off the mystic. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.400 That sounds that sounds cooler, it. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.720 Sounds Can we just I want. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.760 To just make that being like judged dread. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.439 Yeah, yeah, I kind of, I I kind of I 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:11.400 kind of want to take that. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.559 Can we can we make that a thing staying. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.160 Staying off the mystic like we don't need to get 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:19.520 into crazy ship. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:24.200 We can just but galaxy gas, which I've never done. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:31.080 But what happened? Uh? What you can talk about it 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:32.600 or not talk about it if if you want, But 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.400 what happened with the missus? 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:37.080 All right? 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.280 I don't know. It's a it's a long complicated thing. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.199 We're both just kind of give until a point we 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.800 were both more happy and just like arguing off and 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.440 on and like breaking up off and on. And I 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:55.280 was like for almost that three years, I'm like, I 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:56.880 don't want to say too much because I don't think 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.840 she'll listen, but I don't want to like oustad anything. 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.600 Sure, yeah, sure I understand that. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.880 But it was just three years just didn't work out 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:11.000 and we were just both unhappy. Are you and I 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:12.480 don't want to be there? But just like a have 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:13.840 to move on kind of thing. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.400 Are you so? I so? I undersaid it's like a wee, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.000 it's like a it is like a difficult transition, but like, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.440 do you do you feel happier? 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.000 Like, what's your feel how do you feel in your gun? 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:23.640 I'm curious. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.040 I feel like I'm so focused on trying to like 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.640 work on stuff on my life, then I'm honestly not 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.920 thinking about it too much. Like my mom asked me 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.560 that the other day. She was like, you haven't talked 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.679 to like it's been like a month and you haven't 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:43.240 like talked about like so and so. And she's like, 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:44.960 are you like okay with it? And then I was like, 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.680 I'm going to tell you the same thing I told 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.320 my therapist of I know, this is just gonna suck 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:51.959 for a while and I'm just gonna have to live 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.520 through the suck and then we'll go from there. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.240 M Yeah, there's kind of a this kind kind of 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:09.800 a beauty in that acceptance. There's a beauty in that 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.600 accept There's a weird thing and this is like, uh, 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:20.079 philosophy bullshit that I don't know if I fully agree, 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:24.080 but let's explore the idea because it's interesting. Is like 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.679 are you still there, by the way, Okay, I was 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.040 wanting you the phone cut out whatever, But it's an 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:34.160 interesting idea to explore. It's like Okay, you do, You've 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.680 you accept this is gonna suck. I will get through 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:45.920 it and I will move past it and be victorious 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:51.480 and whatnot versus like resistance of feeling the pain and 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.480 the suck and like, how do I fucking make this 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.240 fucking end right now? This is like. 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.680 Whatever, whatever pain or whatever the fuck. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:07.760 It's interesting because resistance can often, like I think, lead 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.319 you to interesting. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.200 Places, perhaps. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:20.160 Like I think, I don't know, I don't know, like, uh, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.440 there's a weird thing and like uh. But also but 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:27.319 also acceptance can still lead you places actionably right because 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.880 you accept the pain, because you can because you can 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:34.679 be like like I have a friend who's like, uh, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.200 you know, he went through a thing with his lady 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:43.679 and he went like, I'm gonna become like like, I 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.760 don't know if it's he and he went like, I'm 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.839 gonna become the kind of person that I thought this 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:56.640 relationship would make me become. And I'm like mourning the 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.480 the possibility of the guy that I thought it would 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.320 become as a result of this relationship. And so I'm 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:06.880 going to go do the things that I thought this 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.480 person would encourage me to do. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:09.440 I'm going to do them alone. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:15.000 And it's interesting because I guess, I guess as I'm 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.800 talking to you, I initially was I was thinking about 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.520 this person, and I was like, is that a resistance 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.040 to pain or is that actually, in a way, an 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:30.600 acceptance of pain and a kind of like let me 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:36.640 take an actionable step to transform this pain into something productive, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.640 which actually is is a form of acceptance, I think 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:45.480 rather than a form of resistance. I guess resistance would 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:50.360 be like, no, this is this is gonna work out, 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:51.960 this is gonna come back, this. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:52.800 Is gonna. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:54.840 That. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.120 I think that's kind of why I'm at a point 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:01.680 of like we both agreed that we needed to do it, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.200 but I kind of like initiated it, and we both 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.200 kind of like agreed. They were like like I don't 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.960 like it got to a point right and feel like 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.960 I could like talk to my friends about it because 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:17.160 it's like we've had so many like micro breakups. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.320 Oh yeah, that's that's yeah. Once you get to the 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:21.920 point where you're once you get to the point where 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.480 you're like you can't you you've talked to your friends, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.480 You've gone to your friends about an issue you're having, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.680 and you can't you can't go back anymore because they're 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.360 all going to be like, You've done this dance eight 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.400 thousand times and you just can't talk to us about 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:34.920 it anymore. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.400 Yeah, And like my therapist even said that, like like 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.120 my friends are like, don't get me wrong, I could 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.960 like I've talked to my friends about like I got 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.840 I got drunk and played video games. We played through 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.880 the fire and the flames on Fortnite. That's my buddy's 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.720 house and you know we did that, and you know 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:55.000 that was that was nice. But I feel like I'm 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.720 definitely kind of just like like don't get me wrong, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.040 it sucks, but like I'm trying to, like I got 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.280 a lot I want to work on, and like that 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:05.640 was kind of one of the things we dealt with 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.800 is like I didn't it didn't come across that I 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.760 changed the ways I needed to, and like I knew 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.600 I needed to change in some different ways. But like 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:18.200 I also was like working at Jimmy John's before, Like 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.760 I was like working at Jimmy John's and the door dashing 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.960 full time and just like miserable the entire time, like 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.600 when we first met, and like I feel like I'm 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.920 in a much better place even with the stuff going 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.560 on now that I was back then. So I'm just 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.640 trying to I don't know. I got to keep telling 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.360 myself that I changed in ways that were good for 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.600 both of us, in ways that were good for me too, 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.680 and just kind of trying to keep moving forward and 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.440 changing in better ways. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.440 That's wonderful that you have great friends that you can 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.160 just get drunk and play Fortnite with. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.600 It is actually really funny because like my two friends 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.000 that I just got to play it literally said they 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.360 would never play it, like they said they'd rather die 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.960 than play it for like years, and then one night 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.520 I just randomly messages and saying me playing Fortnite tonight, 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.879 and it kind of like stunlocked them into playing it, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.440 and now one of them plays more than me. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.240 How do you How do you know these two guys? 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.600 I met them in high school and I used to 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.960 be roommates with one of them that he had kids, 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:23.640 so we moved out. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:29.159 Nice, nice, nice nice? Are these the buddies that are 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:30.320 at comicic on right now? 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.040 Actually one of them is, Yeah, I actually just sent 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:38.720 a message in the discord saying I'm on therapy Gecko 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.920 right now, and they said prove it, and I said, 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:42.919 watch the stream, and so I hope one of them 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:44.719 got to hear me talk about his Fortnite addiction. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:45.520 Cool. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:58.160 Cool, hmmm, what's your name again, Jack? Jack? Hmm, you said, 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.800 you know what, I just I keep coming This is like, 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.480 I know, I feel like on this show I say 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.520 the same things over and over again. But maybe that's 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:12.000 because I just keep coming back to, you know, a 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.800 lot of the same conclusions. And this is just thank 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.080 your You're I appreciate you so much, just sitting on 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:26.399 the phone with me while I rant about musings. It's 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:32.880 like I just keep coming back to. By the way, 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.160 I just I hope, I hope this doesn't come off 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.200 in like a preachy way, because this is a lot 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:37.640 of this. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:38.240 This is just me. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:39.600 Uh. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.600 This is like doing therapy for myself and me coming 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.680 to my own loop of realizations over and over again. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:53.000 It's like, like perspective keeps being the fucking thing. Like 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:58.120 perspective just keeps being the difference between like people who 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.840 I talk to on this show or just in real life, 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.760 where I'm like that person is gonna be fine versus 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.560 that person's is fucked. You know, It's less it's more 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.600 about that than it is about like anything I think. 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.320 And I and I I redirect that back to myself. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.280 I always I redirect that back to myself because I 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.240 I I wonder with myself. I'm like, am I fucked? 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:25.240 Am I just fucked? 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:25.399 For? 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:29.920 Like am I fucked? Or is it gonna? Am I 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:34.000 gonna be fine? And it's like, well, it kind of 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.560 depends on your perspective, and then your brain attacks you 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.840 and it goes, no, there's reality and reality doesn't give 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:47.239 a fuck about your perspective. But then but then you 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.320 but then you turn around and you go, well, perception 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.280 is reality, and you kind of argue back and forth 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.200 with your fucking self on it. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:00.320 I do you want to Yeah, yeah, like you have 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.160 to keep reality in check, like I don't think there's 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.080 any problem, like like you've got to feel your emotions. 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.119 Like that's kind of the thing I keep like, like 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.679 running into here is like I like, I like, in 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.080 my head, I know I'm not being cringe about it, 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.639 but in my head I feel cringed for thinking like, oh, 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.480 like I feel like I don't know who I am anymore. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:21.879 But it's also like at the same time, after remind 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:26.440 myself like no, I'm I still I'm still the same guy. 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.240 It's just this is going on and like trying to 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.200 not let my mind wander too far off. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:36.280 Mm hmmm mm hmm. What's uh, what's the future look 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.040 like for you? What do you what do you want 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:39.439 to do with your in life? 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.440 I might be getting a fingers crossed. I'll be getting 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.680 this cool new job in about a week at this Uh. 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:50.720 You know, like when you go to Davembusters and you 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.840 have like the card you put the funds on and 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.960 then you can swipe it or tap it at the games. 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.280 I'm gonna work for a company that like makes those, 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:01.800 and I'd be able to like build the kiosks and 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.399 like I run support for like the arcades and bars 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:05.399 that use them. 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:10.880