1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Now it's time for our daily Bloomberg Law Brief, exploring 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: legal issues in the news, and Today, Bloomberg lawho stun 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Grosso discusses why more than a dozen US technology companies 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: are calling on the Supreme Court to make it harder 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: for government agencies and officials to access individual cell phone data. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: She speaks at Georgia Newhouse, a partner at Denton's, and 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Scott Vernick, a partner at Fox Rothschild. George tell us 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: a little about the criminal case here so that we 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: can put this in context. The case arises from an 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: appeal by a guy named Timothy Carpenter who is convicted 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: in robbing a series of stores in Maryland and Ohio, 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: and federal prosecutors in that case, and this is usually 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: the situation in these cases. You have to prove that 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: was the defendant who committed the robberies, and they did 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: that in part by placing him near the site of 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: various robberies using cell phone location information, which is basically 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: your with our mobile phones are mobile providers and know 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: at all time it is exactly where we are because 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: there is a cell phone tower that is picking up 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: your signal. That information does not convey of course what 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: was discussed over the phone. UH. Typically federal prosecutors obtained 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: State prosecutors obtain that information by way of a subpoena, 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: which is to say, they issue a grand jury subpoena 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: that requires not even probable cause, simply a reasonable belief 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: that there might be relevant information. And that information, of 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: course and helped convict Mr Carpenter. So he is now 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: claiming that that was a search under the Fourth Amendment. 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: And if it's a search, it wasn't supported by a warrant, 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: even questionable whether there was probable cause. So it is 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: yet another interesting application of novel technology to the Fourth Amendment. 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: And Scott, what's the government's argument for not requiring a 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: warrant in the case like this? Well, I think the 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: government has sort of at least one principal argument, and 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: that is that under a doctrine beviously adopted by the 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court UH in a case called Smith, the view 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: is that the information that consumers give up to their 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: cell phone companies UH and by extension, the cell phone 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: towers is sort of voluntarily given up UH. And it's 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: sort of a voluntarily disclosed business record. UH. And because 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: of the quote unquote voluntary nature. There's no reasonable expectation 41 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: of privacy expected in the record that the phone companies have, 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: and therefore there's no need to have any Fourth Amendment 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: protection around it. That's good for Nick, a partner at 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Fox Rothschild, and at George Newhouse, a partner at Denton, 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: speaking with Bloomberg Law host during Grosso. 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