WEBVTT - HOUR 2 - Bob Costas, Pablo Torre

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio Hour two on this speed Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Gang's all here, ready to go. King of Comedy, Fritzie,

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<v Speaker 2>You got Marvin Paullie Seaton. Paulie is sporting an eye

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<v Speaker 2>patch here, and uh is this a is this a new.

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<v Speaker 3>Look for you? It's just a one day or a

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<v Speaker 3>one day or little treatment last night. I was a procedure.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually yes, it was not surgery.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a little procedure last night.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>And the hotlights are a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sporting the eye patch here becoming all right, very

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<v Speaker 2>pirate of you, Yeah, like a plaid pirate. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the Pirates fired their manager. His name is Derek Shelton.

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<v Speaker 2>You might not be aware of his name, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think he'd been there six years. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>they expect. You know, you have a smaller market and

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<v Speaker 2>you have an owner wants to turn a profit. Roster's

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<v Speaker 2>not great. You got a couple of players who are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be really good for somebody else. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at what the Pirates, they had sixty one,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty two, seventy six, seventy six wins and then now

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<v Speaker 2>tracking towards a fifty one win season.

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<v Speaker 4>They got a couple of players.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Paul's schemes on there, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what you expect. I'm trying to think the last time

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<v Speaker 2>that they finished better than five hundred. When's the last

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<v Speaker 2>time they made the playoffs. They don't even come close

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<v Speaker 2>to finishing over five hundred. The Pirates have won eighty

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<v Speaker 2>games in a season four times since nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>Only the Royals have compiled more losses in the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>first century.

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<v Speaker 6>Ow stell of a day, stan a day, stall of

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<v Speaker 6>a day.

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<v Speaker 4>Stella a day.

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<v Speaker 7>This is the style of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think ownership has signed a free agent to

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<v Speaker 2>a multi year contract since December of twenty seventeen. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they can develop players, but it's not a destination for

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<v Speaker 2>free agents, and you just don't have enough good players there.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say the team underperformed. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they're good enough to perform. And I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>he's supposed to do in a situation like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Paulie, Yeah, the Pirates have made the playoffs again

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<v Speaker 3>three times since nineteen ninety two. Here's a thought, Paul Skiings. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's good for publicity and attendance one out

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<v Speaker 3>of every five games. What do you trade Paul Skiings

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<v Speaker 3>early while he's max value and redo your whole farm,

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<v Speaker 3>your whole farm club and have a chance to have

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<v Speaker 3>a young base of talent to maybe score one of

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<v Speaker 3>those Florida Marlins type runs. I can't think any other way.

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<v Speaker 3>Their competitive.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's important to ownership there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to win? Do you want to spend money?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to spend more money than you're comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>spending it? You know, it's such a great baseball city,

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<v Speaker 2>that ballpark's great views are great, and you go to

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<v Speaker 2>downtown walk across the bridge. Uniforms, I mean they they

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<v Speaker 2>they and I look, I grew up hating the Pirates

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<v Speaker 2>because they were so great in the seventies. That could

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much run down the starting lineup with Manny Sanghian

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<v Speaker 2>and Al Oliver and Roberto Clementi and Willie Stargel, Bob

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<v Speaker 2>Robertson and Gene Alley, Rennie Stennett, Bob Veal, John Candelaria

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<v Speaker 2>Kent to Colvey, I mean they who is it Bob Moose?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he another picture on that team. Dave Justy I

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<v Speaker 2>think was the closer there. You know, they had great

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<v Speaker 2>baseball players and it was a great baseball but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the haves and the have nots. You almost should

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<v Speaker 2>separate and say, all right, if you're only going to

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<v Speaker 2>spend this amount of money, then you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>playing in this league. You know, maybe you have relegation,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe there's a group that you have. These are

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<v Speaker 2>the these are the teams that are in Triple A

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<v Speaker 2>ish and then you have you know, maybe somebody is

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<v Speaker 2>really good and they win and then they can move

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<v Speaker 2>up and then somebody moves down.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you have something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know what you expect out of some

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<v Speaker 2>of these smaller markets, mid market teams. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if there's full disclosure on what what are you spending,

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<v Speaker 2>how much you're making. That's what I always want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always said with certain organizations and the Cincinnati Bengals,

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<v Speaker 2>there should be a minimum spend, like you must spend

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<v Speaker 2>at least this. And they're owners, they're fine, they're fine

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<v Speaker 2>owning a team. The value goes up, maybe you're not

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<v Speaker 2>winning anything and you're getting a profit. But pirates have

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<v Speaker 2>fired their manager. It's been a while since we've had

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<v Speaker 2>somebody fired this soon. I think it was the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>Reds maybe who fired their manager, like eighteen or nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>games in a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, you got the Timberwolves.

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<v Speaker 2>They take Game two and the series now goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to Golden State. The calves at the Pacers tonight, thunder

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<v Speaker 2>at the Nuggets. Poll question for hour two is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be what Seaton. By the way, good morning if

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Seaton, we.

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<v Speaker 8>Got up there right now. Whose career do you want?

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<v Speaker 8>Spike Lee, Bob Costas, Mark Messier. Okay, let's guess the results.

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<v Speaker 8>Guess the results, Spike Lee, Bob Costas, Mark Messia.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say, as Todd likes to do, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, Tod, do you say he is Bob

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<v Speaker 2>costas Spike Lee, Mark Messier?

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<v Speaker 4>That's your order? Yeah, why do you think Bob Costas? First?

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<v Speaker 2>I think people can look at that and go, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good job. You know, he's got to cover all

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<v Speaker 2>these events. You get to wear suit and tie your

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<v Speaker 2>hair's combs. Yeah, it seems easy. Yeah, longevity. So I'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say Bob Costas. Bob Costas is forty seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the vote right now. Okay, that's a shockingly high

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<v Speaker 2>number to me.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Mark Messier is in second, but very close him,

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<v Speaker 8>Him and Spike Lee are basically tied at second. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>but Costas running away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think people look at that and go

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<v Speaker 2>I would want to do that job, or I could

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<v Speaker 2>do that job. And he's been everywhere on everything. And

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be on the show coming up in about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes from he will, Yes, he will, he will, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he will. By the way, if you miss Spike Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>he was great first hour. He had a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday Afternoon Nicks Celtics Chris and Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 9>Hey?

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<v Speaker 10>Thanks Dan?

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, a couple of comments off your Spike Lee interview.

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<v Speaker 9>I thought it was a great question on second best

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<v Speaker 9>sequel on the movies of all time besides behind Godfather

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<v Speaker 9>too and I got to go Rocky to and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I always wondered why in Jungle fever. Why Spike went

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<v Speaker 9>with Leslie Snipes over his guy Denzel, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there was some kind of scheduling

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<v Speaker 2>issue with Denzel.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's picked Denzel for what five movies, including the latest

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<v Speaker 2>one coming out this August.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Paul, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a couple more high end sequels. Terminator two, Judgment

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<v Speaker 3>Day is as good or better than the first, right there. Aliens,

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<v Speaker 3>the sequel to Alien. Remember Sigourney, we were in that

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<v Speaker 3>big thing beating up the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's pretty great too. Those are pretty high end sequel.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a sequel. Guy mostly bad. Yeah, I don't and

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<v Speaker 4>I get it, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Hollywood lacks creativity and they don't want to take chances,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, all right, that made this kind of money,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it again.

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<v Speaker 4>Come up with a different script. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know if it counts as a sequel because

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<v Speaker 8>it's kind of the next in the story. Empire Strikes Back.

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<v Speaker 8>Star Wars is a pretty great one. Okay, that's a

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<v Speaker 8>really good one. But I don't know if it's Those

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<v Speaker 8>are kind of it's a story that you tell, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>so I have to see the first one. I guess

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<v Speaker 8>to appreciate the second one.

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<v Speaker 4>You haven't seen either Star Wars movie. No, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 4>too late to do that.

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<v Speaker 11>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, it is, it is, It doesn't it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to hit. It doesn't hold up. No, okay, no, yes, Marvin.

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<v Speaker 12>For John Fever dens at what was considered, but Spike

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<v Speaker 12>went with Wesley Snipes and Spike Lee asked Martin Scorsese

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<v Speaker 12>to be in the film, but he declined, and Marissa

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<v Speaker 12>Tome turned down the role of Angie Tucci, the female lead,

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<v Speaker 12>because of her scheduling conflicts with a little movie called

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<v Speaker 12>My Cousin Vinnie could call.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the Bourne movies never trailed off. They have

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<v Speaker 5>some consistency.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember all the names of them, the Bourne

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<v Speaker 3>identity afterwards, but they stayed pretty steady for all those sequents.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a great movie. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bummer is the Jeremy Renner one, and Jeremy Renner

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<v Speaker 2>is a great actor, but he's not born He's not

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Bourne.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they should have had it be like somebody else,

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<v Speaker 8>but also part of tread Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, once again, that movie's on any of

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<v Speaker 2>the movie Boorne identity movies and I'm watching I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care where it is. Be right at the end, right

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning, right in the middle, doesn't matter. Always great.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see Lucas in Texas. I Luke, what's on

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<v Speaker 2>your mind today?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey Dan, good morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, as you've already mentioned in your Spike Lee interview,

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<v Speaker 7>we have a new pope, an American pope, and I've

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<v Speaker 7>got a couple of quick things for you. A question

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<v Speaker 7>and an observation. First, my question somewhat rhetorical, but how

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<v Speaker 7>long until Fritzy inappropriately reaches out to the Vatican to

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<v Speaker 7>talk about something related to Villanova's sports. That's my first

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<v Speaker 7>one and my second one. This is more of an observation.

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<v Speaker 7>It was really a cool moment to see Poco Leo

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<v Speaker 7>walk out yesterday as the cheers of the audience. What

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<v Speaker 7>was a little unexpected, And Marvin, you'll appreciate this is

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<v Speaker 7>that if you play it back, you can actually hear

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<v Speaker 7>a small crowd of Americans waving flags and singing Roughrider

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<v Speaker 7>anthem by DMX. So I think we all know what

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<v Speaker 7>our song is on the international stage now whenever we

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<v Speaker 7>get a big win.

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<v Speaker 10>So let's go boys.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a big deal American pope, Chicago based

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<v Speaker 2>and White Sox fan, Jordans fan. I think there were

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<v Speaker 2>memes that were out there with the Jordan logo, the

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<v Speaker 2>jump man on his robe. Fritzie did come up with

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<v Speaker 2>a Pope Leo the fourteenth song, ty do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to explain this?

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<v Speaker 13>I was just thinking about, you know, the pope and

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<v Speaker 13>the guy Electoris, think of song parodies and things like that,

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<v Speaker 13>and I'm like, you know what, there was Duran Durant's Rio.

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<v Speaker 12>Back in I think nineteen eighty two. I know that

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<v Speaker 12>was forty three years ago.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't want to skew too old. And I singing

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<v Speaker 13>a couple of lines in my head while I was

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<v Speaker 13>like brushing my teeth, and I thought I had a

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<v Speaker 13>little something that I can kind of put together with

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<v Speaker 13>Pope Leo off of Rio, big hit song by Duran Durant.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, I'm ready, let's go. Let's see what you got.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is.

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<v Speaker 6>Leo and he wears the paper crown.

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<v Speaker 14>He's bringing peace and love all through a Roman town

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<v Speaker 14>and when he prays with us, we're filled with so

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<v Speaker 14>much hope on Leo Leo.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we have a brand pope.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>Put him in the owner's box.

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<v Speaker 6>He'll bless the copies, Bud. He really loves the sucks.

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<v Speaker 15>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>The Pope won't quit until his work is done. He

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<v Speaker 6>may be the fourteenth, but to us he's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, respectful, I think I know the answer, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still gonna ask it for the audience. Have you reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to the Vatican to have Pope Leo join it?

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<v Speaker 13>It's funny that that was mentioned, because late last night,

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<v Speaker 13>before he went to bed, I said, I wonder how

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<v Speaker 13>many steps it would take to actually get the Pope

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<v Speaker 13>on the show, and would he be willing to come

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<v Speaker 13>on and to a zoom. He's a Chicago guy and

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<v Speaker 13>sports fan, and I'm still looking into it. I don't

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<v Speaker 13>have any direct contact yet, but there's a press secretary

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<v Speaker 13>for the president here and there's got to be a

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<v Speaker 13>way to get a message his way. It may take

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<v Speaker 13>many many steps, but we're certainly going to give it

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<v Speaker 13>a shot. Why not?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 12>How great would that be?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? Jonah in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, Jonah, Day's longtime, first time I had five, ten.

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<v Speaker 15>One sixty. I wanted to talk about yesterday you and

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<v Speaker 15>the boys. We're talking about some of the greatest songs

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<v Speaker 15>are associated with college football teams. And I wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 15>y'all miss Dixiel and Delight at Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they Alabama's got a couple of them.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, but the one we're really known for, the one

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<v Speaker 15>you see the you know, cool high videos of.

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<v Speaker 16>That's stick SiO and Delight right after the start of.

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<v Speaker 15>The fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, not familiar with that, but thank you, Jonah.

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<v Speaker 4>It shows how known they are for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, Wow, wow, Chemo in Virginia beach, Hi, keem on,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey Danny, Oh gosh, I can't control my phone, and

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<v Speaker 10>thanks for calling. And to grass funny, I mean, because

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<v Speaker 10>you want Spike you know, that was just that's just

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<v Speaker 10>classic good Danny Patrick stuff. And then and I can't

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<v Speaker 10>believe the pole question was so perfect, but I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 10>confused about your answer. Spike is a man all the accolades.

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<v Speaker 10>And then we all want to be Moose, right, we

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<v Speaker 10>got to be Moose. So that leads us to who

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<v Speaker 10>is the last Danny? When you agreet just you give

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<v Speaker 10>him hello, loser.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. Kima.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's what he calls me when I didn't win

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<v Speaker 2>the Sports Emmy. Hello loser.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know what's it?

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<v Speaker 17>Give us a of it? Dan Quizybot and Emma and

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<v Speaker 17>uh it's Friday?

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry? Wow? Did I mention what we're having for meat Friday?

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<v Speaker 4>A classic combo? Yeah? I would never put these two together.

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<v Speaker 2>Classic combo, A jumbo crab cake, sandwich, smoke, Turkey clubs,

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<v Speaker 2>Surf and Turf and Coleslaw classic.

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<v Speaker 4>Who is it better than we do?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, which are you more excited about?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say the smoke Turkey Club? Me too, Me too?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Todd, what about you? I'm going Turkey Club Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul crab Cake Yeah, Marmon crab Cakes Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not possible hot take not a big crabcake guy,

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<v Speaker 4>crab Tree. I was talking about you, crab Tree.

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<v Speaker 18>Let's talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Classic this talking about you, Cramtree.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let me come on, let's go clean up

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<v Speaker 2>the ninety second Street y in New York City this Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll be May eleventh. That's seven and a well, a

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<v Speaker 2>pote prie of topics, I'm sure over his forty plus

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<v Speaker 2>are you today?

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<v Speaker 11>I'm good, Dan, and rest assured I will not make

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<v Speaker 11>a penny off whatever the ninety second Street why accruise

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<v Speaker 11>from this appearance. Okay, they do great stuff there. Not

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<v Speaker 11>to belabor it. You could actually see someone in conversation

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<v Speaker 11>with Larry David or Paul Simon, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 11>And now I guess they've dipped down in rank. They

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<v Speaker 11>didn't have anybody else for Mother's Day night, so it's

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<v Speaker 11>made this time.

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<v Speaker 4>Pirates have fired their manager. Yeah, and I'm wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you do a two tiered system and maybe have

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the haves and the have nots. Could you

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<v Speaker 2>do relegation maybe where you know, bottom half team, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they move up? Or what I mean, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do in Pittsburgh, once great baseball town?

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<v Speaker 10>You know?

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<v Speaker 11>The only thing that brings to mind that would be comparable.

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<v Speaker 11>Remember I'm old enough to remember you were a younger child,

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<v Speaker 11>if you were here at all. But in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 11>seven or whatever it was, when the NA expanded, you

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<v Speaker 11>had the original six and all the expansion teams went

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<v Speaker 11>into one division six and six and that actually sparked

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<v Speaker 11>a hockey craze in Saint Louis because the Blues were

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<v Speaker 11>the worst of that second I'm sorry, the best of

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<v Speaker 11>that second division. And they went to the Stanley Cup

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<v Speaker 11>finals twice and acquitted themselves well even though they lost.

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<v Speaker 11>So that's the only comparable thing I can think of.

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<v Speaker 11>But here, I think is the real answer. If you're

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<v Speaker 11>the Pittsburgh Pirates and if you're a long suffering fan,

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<v Speaker 11>and then you're right. They have a great baseball history,

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<v Speaker 11>they have one of the best ballparks in the major leagues,

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<v Speaker 11>and they flounder constantly. Think about this though, Dan there

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<v Speaker 11>are ten teams in the two central divisions in the

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<v Speaker 11>major leagues. Only one of them is in the top

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<v Speaker 11>half of payrolls. That's the Cubs at tenth. Next is

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<v Speaker 11>the Tigers at seven teams. Half of the six playoff

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<v Speaker 11>teams last year in the American League came from the

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<v Speaker 11>al Central, the Tigers, the Royals, and the Guardians and

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<v Speaker 11>the Twins, who have now had the trap door open

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<v Speaker 11>on them. But the Twins were barely outside that group.

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<v Speaker 11>They were alive in the last week other than the Cubs.

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<v Speaker 11>In theory, who is going to greatly outspend the Pirates

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<v Speaker 11>in the National League Central. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 11>mitigates the admittedly large payroll gaps in the major leagues

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<v Speaker 11>is the third wild card. You know, whether you like

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<v Speaker 11>it or not, you can say, hey, if we can

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<v Speaker 11>win eighty five eighty six games, we got a chance

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<v Speaker 11>to get into the postseason. And the history shows even

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<v Speaker 11>the Dodgers they lost to the Padres two three years ago,

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<v Speaker 11>they lost to the Diamondbacks, and they were down two

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<v Speaker 11>to one to the Padres last year before they rallied

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<v Speaker 11>to win the division Series. It's not a guarantee that

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<v Speaker 11>the best teams and the highest payroll teams make it

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<v Speaker 11>through to the World Series if you can just get

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<v Speaker 11>into that tournament. So I don't want to be harsh,

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<v Speaker 11>but what's the Pirate's excuse. They play a huge percentage

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<v Speaker 11>of their games within the National League with other teams

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<v Speaker 11>that aren't running away from them payroll wise, and you've

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<v Speaker 11>got a second and third wild card. You don't have

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<v Speaker 11>an excuse to get this bad this consistently for this long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't know what you know, Derek Shelton

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to do. You know, yeah, you do have

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of players, and we tend to look at

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<v Speaker 2>these teams. Some of these teams, we go, point, who's

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<v Speaker 2>he going to be with his next contract? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Skins is not going to retire at Pittsburgh Pirate,

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<v Speaker 2>which now is not it's a shame, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just modern day baseball here.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 15>You know.

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<v Speaker 11>On the other hand, if Derek Shelton was lucky enough

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<v Speaker 11>to have management like the Colorado Rockies have. And this

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<v Speaker 11>is not a knock on Bud Black at all. Bud

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<v Speaker 11>Black is a very respected baseball guy as a pitching

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<v Speaker 11>coach and as a manager and he had the Rockies

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<v Speaker 11>in the playoffs several years ago. But they start out

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<v Speaker 11>with no chance. They leave spring training with no chance.

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<v Speaker 11>But they don't have the benefit, if you want to

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<v Speaker 11>call it that, of being in a weaker division. They're

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<v Speaker 11>in a division where the other four teams vary from

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<v Speaker 11>good to very very good, and they're playing a huge

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<v Speaker 11>number of their games in that division and they're like

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<v Speaker 11>one hundred and eighty games out. Even though it's only

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<v Speaker 11>one two game season.

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<v Speaker 4>They got six wins so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was wondering about the timing of show, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Otani coming back to pitch and if if you're the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to push this, And if you're Otani,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that that's your identity, but still, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>there's a real risk here. If I'm the Dodgers, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to lose you as a hitter, and having

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 2>you as a pitcher, I may not need you as

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<v Speaker 2>much as a pitcher. But I don't know if Otani's

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<v Speaker 2>locked in and says, hey, but this is who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the two way player and I want to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to do this.

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<v Speaker 11>I think there is an element to that, and it's

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.840
<v Speaker 11>part of what leads him to sign with whatever team

0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.439
<v Speaker 11>he signs with. Obviously, the Dodgers had the greater financial

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.479
<v Speaker 11>wherewith all of them able to structure the deal that worked.

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 11>But part of it is I want to do both,

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<v Speaker 11>so I don't think they can deny him that. But

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 11>they do have this luxury, whatever it is. The Dodgers

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 11>are a great organization, but they have injuries to their

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 11>pitching staff every year. Every team does, but they have

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.160
<v Speaker 11>them out of all proportion. They'll start out with ten guys,

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 11>all of whom could be in at least some team's rotation.

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 11>Now four of them are healthy, and even when we

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 11>get to October, we're throwing bullpen games in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 11>So I don't know what they're doing with their medical

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.919
<v Speaker 11>staff or their training staff, but at least they have this.

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 11>They're so good even in that division that they can

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 11>slow walk a lot of guys. Clayton Kershell through like

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 11>six to seven perfect endings the other night in the

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 11>minor leagues. They're slow walking him back, and who knows,

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.880
<v Speaker 11>he may be a reliever for them rather than a starter.

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.239
<v Speaker 11>And maybe the answer for Otani is, we don't want

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 11>you to go out there looking to throw six innings,

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 11>which is the modern complete game. Maybe we use you

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 11>out of the bullpen, and that's the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 11>But they have the luxury of knowing they're going to

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<v Speaker 11>be in October, be playing in October, and just trying

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<v Speaker 11>to pull it all together by then. They don't have

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 11>to pull it all together by the All Star break.

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Talking to Hall of Fame broadcaster Bob Costas, who haven't

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you interviewed or who have you interviewed?

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 4>You'd like maybe another sit down with well, you know, the.

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 11>Holy grail has always been Sandy Kofax in sports. Sandy

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 11>was always very very gracious to me. I asked him

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 11>a couple of times. This goes back more than twenty years,

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 11>and he never had someone else make the call. He

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 11>always called me back personally and he said, if I

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 11>ever do it, I'll do it with you. And after

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 11>a while I began to realize I'm at the front

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 11>of a line that never moves. Thanks that, I thought, Sandy.

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 11>But he did do one thing with us, and I

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 11>thought he might for this specific reason. All Star Game

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 11>in Cincinnati a decade ago, and they named them Mount

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 11>Rushmore of Living baseball players, and it was Willie Hank

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 11>joh Bench and Kofax, And I said, Sandy, if it's

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 11>just the four of you and you're talking amongst yourselves.

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Will you do it?

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 11>And he did and he was great in that sit

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 11>down anecdotal joking with the guys. You could see they

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 11>were energized, and all I had to do was just

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 11>toss it out there and then sit back and let

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 11>them talk among themselves. So I think Kofax would be

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 11>one of the guys in sports. You know Jack Nicholson

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 11>who's in the winter of his years now and seldom

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:33.400
<v Speaker 11>appears in public. But Jack Nicholson fascinating guy, enormous star

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 11>for thirty forty years. He always said, I don't do

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 11>television interviews. I'm a movie star. Leave your house, you

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 11>go into a darken theater, you pay your money, the

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 11>phone doesn't ring, and you sit there and watch me

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 11>on a big screen. Why do I want to be

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 11>sitting with Johnny Carson while you're looking through your toes

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 11>as you're lying in bed. But I'm not going to

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 11>do that. It diminishes the mystique. So the only time

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 11>you saw him on television regularly was sitting courtside at

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 11>a Laker game. So it brings me to this nineteen

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 11>ninety two NBA Finals Portland against the Bulls and Nicholson

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 11>is shooting in HAFA on site in Chicago. So he's

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 11>Jack Nicholson. He can get good seats. They weren't at

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 11>half court. They were on the base line underneath one

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 11>of the baskets, and Dick Eversol and Terry o'deola were

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 11>the producers. They spot him there and I'm not calling

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.440
<v Speaker 11>the games, Marvis calling the games. I'm upstairs at the

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 11>old Chicago Stadium to do the pregame and the halftime.

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 11>So they say, Bob, do you know Jack Nicholson, Well,

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 11>i've met him, I don't know him not. Well, go

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.360
<v Speaker 11>down and ask him if he'll come on at halftime.

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 11>I'm like, this is the greatest fools errand.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 4>Of all time.

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 11>Don't you know that Johnny Carson just left the Tonight

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 11>Show and he wouldn't go on the last book with

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 11>Johnny Carson When people were lined up around the block

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 11>to make one more appear, go down, you owe it

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 11>to us, Go okay? Fine, So I slept myself down

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 11>and I wait for the four minute time out and

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 11>I walk up behind him Dan, I swear I tap

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 11>him on his right shoulder and he turns around like this,

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 11>and the first glimpse of him is like the first

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 11>time you see him in the shining face. Then he

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 11>softens a little bit and he goes, I wish I

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 11>could to a decent of a thing. He goes, Oh, hi, Bob, Jack,

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 11>just play along. Here they're watching. I'm supposed to ask

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 11>you if you'll come home with us, And I swear

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 11>this is what he said. Verbata makes up. I'm editing one.

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Word, bomby Bobby.

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 11>You're a nice kid and you do good work. How

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 11>can I put this no.

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 4>F.

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 11>Jack, I'll take that as a no during the rest

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 11>of the game. Now, I got a whole ass.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 10>In time.

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 4>At least he was very respectful.

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I told my audience to keep an eye on

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 2>this because I think there's something there. When President Trump

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>got together with Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred and this Pete

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Rose situation, it feels like this is something that Donald

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Trump wants to happen to at least get Pete on

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the ballot. And I think there's other things at play

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 2>that the commissioner may want or need from the President

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 2>as well. I think Pete's going to get on the

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>ballot at some point. It feels like, what do you think.

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 11>Two things here? First, of the ballot part, in theory,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 11>they'd have to put him directly into a Veterans committee

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 11>unless they change their rule, okay, because anyone who is

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 11>more than fifteen years removed from having played can't be

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 11>on the ballot. And of course if you were on

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 11>the ballot for ten years, then you wait a little

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 11>while and they throw you into a veterans committee. Now,

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 11>if they're going to take Pete off the restricted list

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 11>or whatever it is, the ineligible list, then in theory

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 11>they could also say, wait a minute, he was never

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 11>on the writer's ballot. Let's have the writers vote on

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 11>it rather than sixteen people in a veterans committee situation.

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 11>By the way, if you're going to take Pete off

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 11>on that basis, which consider taking shoeless Joe Jackson off

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 11>on that basis He was briefly on the writer's ballot

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 11>and didn't make it. But you could put him up

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 11>for consideration too. But those are signs to your point.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 11>I don't know the specifics. I haven't talked with Commissioner

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 11>Manfred about it. But you know, baseball has an anti

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 11>trust exemption. The Trump administration seems quite willing to interpret

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 11>things their own way so or to pursue certain legal

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 11>actions that others would not. So the anti trust exemption

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 11>is important to baseball. It protected them greatly before they

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 11>finally Marvin Miller and company finally broke through and got

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 11>rid of the reserve clause. But it still has some

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 11>value to them. And then who knows. And I'm only

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 11>speculating here. I'm not saying it's true. But obviously there

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 11>are a great many foreign players in Major League Baseball.

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 11>Does Trump's immigration policy perhaps in some way affect their

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 11>com and goings. I'm not saying it does, but these

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 11>are all things that perhaps Manford and Trump would would

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 11>be discussing.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's how I see it. I think it's going

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>to happen. At least, you know, Pete posthumously is going

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>to be on a ballot, whether it's the veterans or

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, they decide to put him on the regular bound.

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 4>At the writer's bound. Good to talk to you again,

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 4>have fun this weekend. Thank you, buddy.

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>It's Bob Costas ninety second Street, y in New York, City.

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 2>That'll be seven Eastern coming up this Sunday as Bob

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>looks back on his forty plus years in the business.

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Online in person tickets available at ninety two and why

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 2>dot org. When we come back. What's going on with

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick's girlfriend at North Carolina? We have some news

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>about that coming up.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Could be some changes at North Carolina with Bill Belichick

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>and his girlfriend. We'll have that story for you coming

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>up here momentarily. Craig and Wisconsin. Hi Craig, what's on

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>your mind today?

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 15>Dan?

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 16>Could you beat Bob Costas in an arm wrestling matchup?

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Given the health of my shoulder, maybe not, but I

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 2>mean I would certainly try and give it my all.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 10>I was just.

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 16>Curious, say, I have an idea on how we can

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 16>take care of Draymond Green. I think he's an awful

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 16>basketball player.

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>No, he's a really good basketball player. He just has

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 2>control issues.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 16>Well, I did a Google search for Timitt Washington and

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 16>Kirmit Washington is seventy three years old, and I was

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 16>thinking possibly fun office Silks, that Minnesota Timberwolves could sign

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 16>him on for one game.

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 4>All right, thank you.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Craig Kerman, Washington punched Rudy Tom Johnovich, So I guess

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 2>that's what Craig is getting to.

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Not funny. David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on your

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 4>mind today?

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 16>Hey Dan?

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 21>You guys her talking about the pope, and I think

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 21>it's time for Gary Doones to town for his sins,

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 21>go to confessional because we've had four popes since the

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 21>last Cowboys super bull degree.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 4>All right, thank you to.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 2>He's Pablo Torri, ESPN commentator, contributor to Around the Horn PTI, PTI,

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>and Pablo Tory finds out podcast Metal Arc Media, and

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>apparently he found out a little more than we realized

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>about what's going on with Bill Belichick and his girlfriend

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>at North Carolina. Pablo, good to see you. What did

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 2>you find out? What did Pablo toy find out? San

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Good to be with you. Really good to see you

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 4>I on my show.

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 18>For those not initiated, I take stupid things, sometimes extraordinarily seriously,

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 18>and so I spent months of my life in the

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 18>Jordan Hudson rabbit hole. I talked to eleven people who

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 18>dealt directly with.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Her, and a couple of things.

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 18>Number one is that there was an enormous meeting at

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 18>the University of North Carolina where the athletics department had

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 18>to have a meeting with the football people and say

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 18>that Jordan Hudson cannot be the face of our program anymore.

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 18>She cannot be on the field, she cannot be around

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 18>the building. She has taken too much when it comes

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 18>to the airspace around how people think of the coach,

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 18>the greatest coach in football history, arguably who when they

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 18>hired him to be the highest paid coach in the history, Well,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 18>forget about any present day North Carolina stats. Just the

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 18>highest paid public employee in the state of North Carolina

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 18>right now. It was the opposite, right, They had no

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 18>idea this was coming. Everybody is now actively worried, including

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 18>I can also report members of Bill Belichick's own family

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 18>that a thing that takes decades to build reputation premise

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 18>on leadership and discretion and privacy and discipline and every

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 18>other term, that now feels like it's the opposite of

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 18>what his reputation is now in this news cycle, they

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 18>feel like that's being destroyed. And it's because he gave power,

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 18>the power to run his new media empire now that

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 18>he has been freed from the NFL for the first

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:36.479
<v Speaker 18>time in decades. He gave that to a woman whose

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 18>age has actually been misreported a lot, I also learned,

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 18>but we can now say is actually today twenty four

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 18>years old.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 4>Which bills reaction, any public reaction to this.

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 18>It's hard to discern because she is the person who

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 18>is on the emails, on the texts, is often ghostwriting,

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 18>so his reaction will be mediated, I believe with her.

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 18>I will point out that in New York City, where

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 18>I live, on Wednesday, there was a talk that Bill

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 18>gave to promote his book, The book that was disastrously

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 18>you could argue non promoted at the CBS Sunday Morning Fiasco.

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 4>He gave a talk and Jordan wasn't there.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 18>There might be something like a deliberate, if not not

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 18>to borrow the terms of like another Hollywood separation, not

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 18>quite a conscious uncoupling, but certainly a public difference in

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 18>how they are presenting her omnipresence. And yeah, what I

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 18>can tell you is that family members of Bill see

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 18>this as something that is they have been investigating her

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 18>too for a very long time.

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 2>If the CBS interview doesn't play out like it did,

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 2>do you think there's any change within North Carolina with

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 2>her role with Bill.

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 18>The fascinating thing about Belichick is that he has this

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 18>inner circle people who have insulated him as best they

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 18>can from all of these concerns, right, And so I'm

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 18>gonna say, spoiler alert answer to your question is no.

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 18>And the reason is because he is a football creature

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 18>with a bunch of frankly yes men around him, Matt Patricia,

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 18>Josh McDaniels. That's how they were described to me, not

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 18>my editorial judgment. And the CBS thing sept Seeped has

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 18>some septic but also seeping vibes to it.

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 4>It got inside of his.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 18>Bubble, right that book the tabloid avalanche happening because she

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 18>did something that and you know this, Dan, a SAVVYPR

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 18>person doesn't do actually, which is forget that she's on tape,

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 18>on camera, on Mike interjecting. And I'm told also that yes,

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 18>the reports are true, that there's thirty more minutes of

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 18>her interrupting, taking control of an interview that was supposed

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 18>to be frankly a puff piece, an extraordinarily positive thing

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 18>about this book about his leadership style, which could then

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 18>be transferred to non football people.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the premise of it.

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<v Speaker 18>Ironically, that's what opened the floodgates, man, And at that

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 18>point it became how do we deal with this? And

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 18>at that point lots of people realized, now is our

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 18>moment to say what we've been seeing behind the scenes,

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 18>which is one of the crazier sagas.

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<v Speaker 15>Man.

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<v Speaker 18>I haven't even got into some of the other stuff here.

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<v Speaker 18>If I can just give you one brief anecdote just

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 18>to help illustrate the point here. There was a commercial

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 18>that Belichick was filming, a seven figure commercial, not the

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 18>super Bowl commercial, by the way, which we reported also

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 18>Jordan Hudson insinuated herself into by representing herself as his

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 18>agent to Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, a thing that

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 18>afflic and Damon still talk about to this day. By

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 18>the way, that she was in that commercial, that she

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 18>got paid that they negotiated with her for belichick separate commercial,

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 18>earlier commercial for one of the podcasts he was doing

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 18>seven figure shoots scripted. She shows up, She's not a

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 18>person in the public view, no CBS interview. Yet none

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 18>of this stuff has happened. She shows up and she

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 18>again wants to be in the commercial, and she's talking

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 18>about how this would be a hard launch. That's the

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 18>relationship term. I've been given a hard launch of their

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 18>relationship public announcement, and she says, hold on, I have

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 18>an idea. She leaves, some time passes, the shoot actually ends,

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 18>the real shoot. She comes back and she's wearing a

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 18>yellow polka dot bikini and a sun hat, and she

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 18>wants to film a scene where she is by the

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 18>pool with Bill trying to get his attention. All this

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 18>again very on the nose, the meta and the real.

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 18>But that happens, and everybody there is like, what do

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 18>we do with this? Like this is Bill Belichick is

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 18>not betraying any emotional change. She's just going along with

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 18>all of this because that's him. They're realizing, and they

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 18>decide we need to do the thing where we tell

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 18>her we're shooting a scene. They grab a camera guy

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 18>and they proceed to shoot something that I am told

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 18>they're not even sure the camera was on. They point

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 18>a camera, they have her do something and they say, good, yep,

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 18>got it good, and that's just what it's been like.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 18>That was at the beginning of her taking control of

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 18>the media empire. Everything from there is sort of flowing

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:01.800
<v Speaker 18>kind of logically once you hear about that.

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>And I said this after the CBS interview, if Bill

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>has any hopes of getting back into the NFL, this

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>really hurts you because you're giving control to Bill. But

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>are you giving control to Bill? And and I would

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 2>there's no way an NFL team is gonna go, you know.

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I think Bill he now's the time to bring him in.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the final thirty seconds, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>is next in this story?

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<v Speaker 18>I think you're gonna see people push back on the

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 18>reporting out of North Carolina that I've said, which is

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 18>that there was a power struggle in which the adults

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 18>had to intervene. I think there will be disagreement about that.

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 18>And I think that what is happening to my phone

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 18>will continue to happen, which is that it will continue

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 18>to melt. I signed up for this, I get it.

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 18>Aggregation interviews like this are all great. I hope people

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 18>listen to the episode. But I can tell you that

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 18>everybody who's dealt with Jordan Hudson and one person said, quote,

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 18>she is the worst person I've ever dealt with on Earth,

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 18>and I have dealt with actual sociopaths. I'm not saying

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 18>that that is everybody. I'm just saying this story Dan

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 18>is extreme, and there's a lot, including injectable erectile dysfunction

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 18>drugs as just a brief tease for what else we

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 18>had to find out.

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 4>Nice, he's there, great to talk to you. Thank you, Pablo,

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 4>as I always dream, and as I always dream.

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Of course, Pablo Tory. Pablo Tory finds Out podcast courtesy

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of Metal Lark Media. Oh my goodness, there's a lot

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 2>going on, A lot going on. I don't even know

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 2>where to start with it.

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 5>It's now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised. I had somebody who did work with

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>them on a potential commercial or promotional shoot and it

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't work out. But they they had problems because they

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 2>were losing creative control. I'm going to dance around this

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but I was given a heads up,

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and in fact I even told the Dans. I don't

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 2>know how many months ago that was, but that was

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 2>a while ago where I was giving a heads up,

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>if you want to do something with Bill, everything goes

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 2>through her, and she's got creative control. Man, all right,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>two hours in the books. I did not expect that

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 2>story today, that's for sure. But we'll talk to Mark Messier.

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 2>More phone calls coming up. It's a meat Friday. Fritzi's here,

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Seaton's here, Marvin Paulie yours truly two hours in the books.

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 2>We're going to try to do it one more hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's with me, Let's go let's go on here, we're here.