WEBVTT - HAVILAH MALONE - Shews, Spicy & Grit Therapy

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests having a Malone, executive producer, actress, and three

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<v Speaker 1>times best selling author is in the building. Yes, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming through. I really appreciate it and

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<v Speaker 1>excited to have you. But before we get into your

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<v Speaker 1>journey of h before success, what will you have me

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<v Speaker 1>eating today?

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be tasting some spicy, cheesy grits. It

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<v Speaker 2>would have been shrimp and grits, but you know, no shrimp.

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<v Speaker 1>No shrimp who was used budget friendly and then with

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<v Speaker 1>the cash us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we need a little protein and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have no shrimp, so we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Cas you put the cashews in the grits.

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<v Speaker 3>We do, put the cashewes inside the grits.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for real, I didn't know. When I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>said cashews for protein, you know, grits and jalapenos, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is definitely affordable. This whole meal can

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<v Speaker 1>break out to like twenty meals, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>total was like seven bucks with inflation. Yeah, well I

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<v Speaker 1>would say more than twenty meals. I'm just gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>that right now. They gave me the only cheesy grits

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<v Speaker 1>came in like a bulk size from Walmart, so definitely affordable.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was thrown off by the cashoes. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how this whole thing was going to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>But go ahead, you could start whipping up.

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<v Speaker 2>That dish and don't make sure this water is nice

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<v Speaker 2>and hot and boiling.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely want to start with.

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<v Speaker 1>This and grits because well, first of all, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>From New Orleans, so we already have like comfort food,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's something that will really stick with you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you eat grits and then you're gonna be full

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<v Speaker 2>for a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of time. Yeah, that's how I feel about my

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<v Speaker 1>low key morning hack. Now is I wake up, when

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<v Speaker 1>I prepare my daughter's lunch and everything, I will make

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<v Speaker 1>myself an egg and cheese sandwich and just two eggs toasts.

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<v Speaker 1>And then sometimes I'll instead of putting like just butter

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<v Speaker 1>on it, I'll use hummus for extra prosin. It sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do put hummus, like especially a spicy hummus

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<v Speaker 1>on it, or I'll do avocado. And I promise you

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<v Speaker 1>that egg sandwich will hold me till like three o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>from seven in the morning. I'm like, yo, that is

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate hack. And I don't know if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>all the protein in it, but it definitely holds me up.

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<v Speaker 3>With that egg, the yolk of that egg is really filling.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the bread, Yeah, like that bread is going

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<v Speaker 2>like stick to sticky.

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<v Speaker 1>Aside, But if you guys have never done the egg

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<v Speaker 1>hummus breakfast sandwich, I promise you it is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you eat hummus?

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<v Speaker 3>I do eat hummus.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever thought about putting that concoction together?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm? Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you it is good. But take me back

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<v Speaker 1>to what was going on during the time of the

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<v Speaker 1>grits cast used in Jilapino era.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the bank account was very slim, extremely slim. I

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<v Speaker 2>had experienced a layoff from a job that I had

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<v Speaker 2>for over a decade, and even though yes, they had

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<v Speaker 2>given us a you know, a severance package you know

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<v Speaker 2>from after leaving, but instead of me going straight into

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<v Speaker 2>another you know job, I decided to figure out my

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<v Speaker 2>life and figure out what I wanted for my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And that brought me into a deep dive into like

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<v Speaker 2>personal development.

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<v Speaker 1>Pause. I don't think there's enough water to cook on.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I don't think so either. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to cook all some of that is just

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<v Speaker 1>for uh, for just so people don't not at she

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<v Speaker 1>was about to cook like four six packs old. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have been the dry spirts of all time. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we bushed it out just for two looking like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have set you up to fail. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>go on, go back to your story. Sorry about that. Hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was in the midst of, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what my next steps were, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>within my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And how old were you at this time? I was

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<v Speaker 1>hard to be twenty, like late twenties.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, late twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you go back to square one, and what

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<v Speaker 1>job was this at the time?

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<v Speaker 2>This was I was working in corporate America. I was

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<v Speaker 2>working for Hewlett Packard, so I had I was the

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<v Speaker 2>district sales manager for them. I was running one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty million dollar technology business for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was also their spokesperson on like the

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<v Speaker 2>Home Shopping Network and QBC, like selling their products on air.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the economy took a really big downturn,

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<v Speaker 2>and so their business started of course going down, and

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<v Speaker 2>they decided because they were contemplating breaking off the computing

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<v Speaker 2>and printing sides of the business, and then instead they

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<v Speaker 2>were just like, we'll just eliminate complete organizations to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to save money.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a blessing in disguise because I used to

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<v Speaker 2>wake up every day depressed, and not because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a good job, not because I wasn't paid well, not

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't work with great people, but because I

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<v Speaker 2>was at a place in my life that it was

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<v Speaker 2>time to move on and to really.

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<v Speaker 3>Discover who I was.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would move on because I was afraid of

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<v Speaker 2>what was on the other side, and everybody in my family,

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<v Speaker 2>my life was like, you better not lead a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been not you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just like, okay, well, let me just get

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<v Speaker 2>up out of bed, put the smile on, and keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing the thing. And God, the universe, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it, was like, no, boo, I need you

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<v Speaker 2>to move on because I have more for you. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can't stay here in this space, in this spot.

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<v Speaker 3>So cool you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it, I'll get you there, right, I'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And that came in the form of a layoff, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a part of me, of course, was

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<v Speaker 2>like WHOA. Okay, well now what does this mean? Because

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<v Speaker 2>my identity was tied to that position. My identity was

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<v Speaker 2>tied to this title, and it was like who am

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<v Speaker 2>I without this? And it literally I think we is

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<v Speaker 2>this nice and cooked? Now We're gonna let it just

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<v Speaker 2>sit for a second, off this heat. But really just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out who I was. And in that

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<v Speaker 2>time of trying to figure that out, I didn't I

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<v Speaker 2>got an opportunity to go and work for another in

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<v Speaker 2>another division within the company. But I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>can keep doing what I know how to do. That's

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<v Speaker 2>easy for me, but it's literally killing me, or I

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<v Speaker 2>can figure out who I am and what.

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<v Speaker 3>I really want?

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<v Speaker 1>So what was your next play?

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<v Speaker 2>So my next play I got reached out to by

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<v Speaker 2>a friend who he only reaches out probably like once

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<v Speaker 2>or twice a year, just like check in.

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<v Speaker 1>I love friends like that. By the way, Oh it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a such I ain't heart room and a while

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<v Speaker 1>and then and they were like priority calls to when

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<v Speaker 1>you do get those once in a BlueMoon calls, You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to call him back.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he reaches out and that in that call,

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<v Speaker 2>he was just like, yo, it's just checking on you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how things going.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what had just happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like I shared with him with the situation was,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was just like, you know, oh, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>keep you in my prayers, you know, definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>keeping you uplifted.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everything's gonna work out. He was very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like just encouraging.

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<v Speaker 2>And two days later, it was about like two days later,

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<v Speaker 2>he reaches back out to me and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who I'm gonna have reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to you who may potentially have an opportunity for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, okay, look, thank you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I appreciate it. The friend reaches out and the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity was to work as a community outreach director at

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<v Speaker 2>a funeral home.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, right, but that's why you started with a laugh?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you end up taking the job?

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<v Speaker 3>Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I really appreciate you, you know, reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out and offering this opportunity to me. However, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't really align, you know, with her. He was

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<v Speaker 2>like I get it. He was like, your background and

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<v Speaker 2>what you do like this this really isn't you know

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<v Speaker 2>what you do? But we would love to have you,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, there's there could be something here while you're

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<v Speaker 2>figuring it out. Why are you figuring it out? And

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<v Speaker 2>it was local to you too, and it was local okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just like no, but he kept pressing.

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<v Speaker 2>He literally kept pressing, and so I was just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, he said, look, just come meet with me,

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<v Speaker 2>Just come sit down and have a conversation, even if

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<v Speaker 2>you decide you don't want to do this thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, sir, you just at a funeral home. Like literally, now, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing about it, it's got to be hard to like

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<v Speaker 1>get employees from funeral homes. Son, I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>how did I come from me? And it was pay

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<v Speaker 1>a lot or was it a little? No, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>commission based. Oh oh yeah, yeah, he would have lost me,

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<v Speaker 1>So go on. So you it sounds like you took

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<v Speaker 1>the job.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go to this meeting and in this meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>I meet a mirror of myself and his assistant director

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<v Speaker 2>who she was an older version of what I would

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<v Speaker 2>envision myself to be when I got older. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it was because of her and wanting to be in

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<v Speaker 2>proximity to this woman that I took the job. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I was only there for two months and I was like, child,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not for me. But it brought me to

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<v Speaker 2>a resource that was so necessary for my journey, for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who opened up a space form my.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing of what was possible for my life. Both. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you see this woman, yes, you're you, you admire

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<v Speaker 1>it's a sense of admiring.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just a sense of my admiration. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of like soul connection. Really, it was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense she was just in the room or she was

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<v Speaker 1>actually with you guys interviewing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was in the room, like so she so

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<v Speaker 2>he was the director of the facility.

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<v Speaker 3>She was the assistant director.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was there to like be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>the interview and and in meeting her.

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<v Speaker 1>Like her power, her presence, and she was the assistant director. Yes, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hmm okay, No, she should have been the director. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to get the whole picture, okay. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was the assistant director that caught your attention, okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way she held her power, oh it was palpable.

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<v Speaker 1>You could feel it. But she also young too, she

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<v Speaker 1>was older she was older.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, probably at that time, maybe in her sixties

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<v Speaker 2>or so, but of course, you know, black don't crack.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was yeah, now before we break the story. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have the yellow, we have these cheesy grits.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never even seen grits this color. What are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing next? So I haven't had to cook all four pegs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be good. So now we're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>our cashoes again. This is our substance, and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost in the shape of a shrimp too. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't she put honey cashoes? I wanted to throw

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<v Speaker 1>it in there, and I said, don't, don't mess with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to like make the sweet and savory. You

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<v Speaker 1>know where the cashoes were flown. And I've seen so

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<v Speaker 1>many dishes where I've been completely confused with how people

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<v Speaker 1>were making them. I just followed the instruction cashoes. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say honey.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't and it's usually just like raw, so like

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<v Speaker 2>not even like sold it or anything, just like raw cashoes.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna just take a little, you know, tablespoon of cashoes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we got to make this last. So you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna take the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Cashoes aren't cheap either. Yeah, this eating one bro, come

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<v Speaker 1>on now, Okay, so we got.

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<v Speaker 2>Cashoes, We have the cashoes, and now we add the

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<v Speaker 2>Coudi gras thelopenos. Okay, so lapenos for that. Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>from New Orleans, so we're all about spice. We're all

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<v Speaker 2>about like this, that little kick, that little pop, and

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<v Speaker 2>this definitely does it. So to be able to add

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<v Speaker 2>our jilapenos right there on top, I mean you.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a lot. You don't have to do a lot. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the pano juice in here. I just put

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<v Speaker 1>a little splash of this and you know me, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that? Yeah, that one halo peno. That's it as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I'm going. But it also it's visually appealing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have the color of this, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the texture, the dimension of it. So it's like it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you feel like you at a fancy restaurant and

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<v Speaker 1>child you are not. Yeah, I don't know this this

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<v Speaker 1>boone right here and here I'm gonna trying to get it, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you can mix it all in. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, yes, okay, but the first bite.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually like the cashow in it, I mean not

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<v Speaker 1>the cashew.

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<v Speaker 3>M mans bring me back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Now, guys, don't judge me eating this in today

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<v Speaker 1>as this is the go to eating while broke dish.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say adding jalopinos to grits is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>I can actually, you know what, even the cashoes. But

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<v Speaker 1>I could be hungry, so this I'm starving, guying hungry. Help.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do like the cashew bite with I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the kilopino bite with the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's like that those flavors combining, the texture is combining.

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<v Speaker 2>It just makes you feel so like satiated and like

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<v Speaker 2>you're having.

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<v Speaker 3>An experience with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think because you're bringing in so many of

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<v Speaker 2>your senses in this in that one bite, it's just like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>time may be hard, but you know what, this is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it actually all does work. What I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's because I'm hungry.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just because you're hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that the cashew flavor in the jalopeno

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<v Speaker 1>flavor almost drown out the cheesy grits flavor altogether, though

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<v Speaker 1>you almost barely taste it. But like something about the

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<v Speaker 1>texture of the kilopino and that is is amazing, Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>this is definitely a good broke dish.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely probably be working at the studio one

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<v Speaker 1>day and definitely say, you know what, we got grits

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it? Mmmm m all right, guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>finished the cheesy grits with jalapeno and cashoes and I

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<v Speaker 1>had Katie, our producer called gut to try it to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I wasn't insane. But by far, I think

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<v Speaker 1>everyone should try cheesy grits with jalapenos and cas shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>It is definitely a cocktail that you would not expect.

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<v Speaker 1>And even Katie and like her take a bite of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was even like shocked at how good it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was definitely judging this dish, but this may be

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<v Speaker 1>the new eat. I didn't want to put a kolopeno

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<v Speaker 1>in it, but that is amazing. I really want seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we when we wrap, you're gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make another one. But take me back to this story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so delicious, isn't that crazy? Girl? Would you do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Now that you know? Would you ever do this? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make some more. I'm so glad we got

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<v Speaker 1>the value box. This is a good combo. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to do a cheesy grists of Jolopeno and cashoes bro.

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<v Speaker 1>That is delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I think this brand that you've gotten,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they do have a Valopeno cheddar. Oh they do,

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<v Speaker 2>but again I think it's better with the fresh in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the texture and the crunch that you get.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Remember I tried to do the juice and then

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<v Speaker 1>I tried it with the bite of the kilapeno. This

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<v Speaker 1>is by far one of definitely gonna be one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorites. I definitely think I will do this again.

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<v Speaker 1>We will wrap and then we will make some more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so you are definitely into one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top dishes for the season. That's great, great, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been very reluctant to give that title, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>a really good dish, So okay, I receive it. So

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<v Speaker 1>now we got to find out from being a funeral

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<v Speaker 1>girl the sales rep funeral home sales rep, Community outreach

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<v Speaker 1>directed commission based only job. Okay, so you work this gig,

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<v Speaker 1>then what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I was there for like two months and was like no,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was that relationship that was critical and helped

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<v Speaker 2>to start opening new pathways for me. Knew way because

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<v Speaker 2>like she was into reading thinking grow rich, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was into reading thinking gro rich. She was into and

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<v Speaker 2>open to going to personal development events, which I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>gotten to that stage of my life yet where I

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<v Speaker 2>was like reading materials but not taking the action to

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<v Speaker 2>like move to the next step. And I remember we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about we should actually go, like we should actually

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<v Speaker 2>go to an event. And so she was very much

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<v Speaker 2>into like healthy eating and stuff like that, and she

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<v Speaker 2>suggested a David Wolf event and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be good. I said, but what about Tony Robbins.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say I was. I was thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>him when you said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I had literally watched so Oprah had a

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<v Speaker 2>special where her and her producer went to a Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Robbins upw which is Unleashed the Power Within, They walked

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<v Speaker 2>on Fire, they had all these breakthroughs, and watching that show,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, one day I'm going to that event,

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<v Speaker 2>Like one day I'm gonna do it. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>brought that up as a suggestion and so she was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, find out what the next one is like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I go online, I look it up. It was coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was like October of that year, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was in Florida. So we get the tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>We go, I walked on fire?

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<v Speaker 1>You did?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. By the way, I've also like, I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>curious about the Tony Robbins. But those tickets aren't cheap either. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've thought about doing it, and I'll be like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't justify it, but but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy has amassed such a huge following, obviously as

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<v Speaker 1>in a safe changing experience. So you walk on fire,

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<v Speaker 1>I walked on fire. Any blister is just curious. None,

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<v Speaker 1>no burns, none, no one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing when you start to realize how

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<v Speaker 2>powerful you really are. That the condition thing of our

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<v Speaker 2>mind because we do it on the first day, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you walk on fire, yeah, I would be like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, so like literally that entire first day. Let

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<v Speaker 2>you say you walk, you run? No, you walk at

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<v Speaker 2>a steady pace.

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<v Speaker 1>At a steady pace. Oh, because I'm sure afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>It was me. I would Okay, quick mantra that they

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<v Speaker 2>have you say and you're also being programmed with that

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<v Speaker 2>mantra all throughout the day, like you were literally conditioning

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<v Speaker 2>your mind to be able to have control of your

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<v Speaker 2>body and your experience in that moment throughout that entire day,

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<v Speaker 2>so that by the time you do it, the result

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<v Speaker 2>is like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Most mantra that can make you walk on fire cool moss,

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<v Speaker 1>cool moss.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you think about fire, you think hot, so

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<v Speaker 2>in your mind you automatically go to burning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, bliss like all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So your mind is telling your body, Oh, that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to happen. Oh, that's how we're supposed to react

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<v Speaker 2>to that thing. So you say cool moss, your body

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<v Speaker 2>says it's cool. But at the end, you walk on

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<v Speaker 2>this fire and you don't see blisters, none, no burns,

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<v Speaker 2>not even a little bit of scores.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't not because that's the case we all need

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<v Speaker 1>to go. So wait, you walk on it, and your

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.399
<v Speaker 1>brain can tell you this, but your physical body doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>experience burns and you're walking at a slow pace. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this flame is this fire or hot coals.

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:33.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's coals that are on like literally burning coals

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<v Speaker 2>that you were walking across.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, continue with this story. Yes, and cool Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming. I'm gonna test it at home. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell my stove, cool moss, Cool Moss. I'm gonna send

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<v Speaker 1>you a picture of my burnt finger. You're like, oh,

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you didn't practice the whole day. Okay, So you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't end up with no burns. Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you you got me sold. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So and that was the thing because then it sold

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<v Speaker 2>me of what I was capable of, because I went

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<v Speaker 2>into it first as well, being like like it looked

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<v Speaker 2>cool on TV, but I don't know about this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and I can always just like

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<v Speaker 2>opt out, Like at the last minute, I could just

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<v Speaker 2>be like, nah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see three hundred more people end up with

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<v Speaker 1>no burns and let me melt some marshmallows over it

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<v Speaker 1>to see how how it really is, Like you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I'm one of know it was like

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred people and melted marshmallows. Then maybe I'll do it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try it. Let's see him do it ten times? Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>did you do it ten times? Okay? All right? So

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<v Speaker 1>go on.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, No, and the thing is like you were being primed,

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<v Speaker 2>reconditioned the entire day for to build up to this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Because once you do this on day one, and that

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<v Speaker 2>breaks open for you, where else am I capable of?

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<v Speaker 2>What else can I actually do that I thought was

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.919
<v Speaker 2>impossible because I thought that was impossible. Yeah, I just

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 2>proved it was possible. Yeah, So now what else can

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<v Speaker 2>I do for myself?

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>And so that being a part of that community, coming

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:20.479
<v Speaker 2>to those understandings and what Tony does, like what he

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 2>does very well.

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 1>He takes tools and he makes him his own.

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>But one of his primary tools that he uses to

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<v Speaker 2>teach and to transform people. While he's never lost to suicide,

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you know the person who's attempted suicide, he's NLP, which

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 2>is neural linguistic programming, and it is a process of

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<v Speaker 2>being able to literally rewire your neural network so that

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.679
<v Speaker 2>like you don't have to think about breathing, it just

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 2>happens automatically. You don't have to think about when you

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>get close to your home, probably just go on autopilot

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.159
<v Speaker 2>because you know the path to get home, that's a

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 2>neural pathway that has been ingrained or grooves in your

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.239
<v Speaker 2>brain and we have that is in terms of our

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 2>belief system about things as well. And this helps you

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to literally rewire that. So I believed I wasn't good enough.

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I believed I wasn't smart enough. I believed, you know,

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't worthy of this level of living, and so

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>everything I did was in alignment with that, because that's

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 2>what I believe. That's where my neural pathway was. But

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 2>now I can rewire it. Yeah I am worthy. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>I can have that. Yeah I'm supposed to have that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it rewires to that, and then your life's

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 2>condition starts to unveil that new reality. And so that

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:39.640
<v Speaker 2>opened this space for me, and so I went into

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 2>a deep dive into personal development. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you start going in and pulling through these layers,

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 2>all the dark stuff starts to come up too, Like

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff to be dealt with has to be

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with. And so my traumas of being sexually molested

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<v Speaker 2>when I was, you know, in my youth, and having

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<v Speaker 2>literally lock that into myself where I was gonna take

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 2>that to my grave, I would have never told anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>never addressed it with my family.

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>It was my brother, so like, yeah, that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a Noah, and who's gonna believe me anyway? And oh

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you had that feeling too, Oh my god.

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed I believed that I say something and then

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.679
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be like, no, it didn't like what are

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you talking about. I had a belief system that my

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<v Speaker 2>because I was close to my dad and my mom

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>was like really close to my brother, and I felt

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>like she loved.

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Him more even though it wasn't true.

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 2>But like I just like felt that because they're because

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 2>of their closeness, and so I'm like, well, even if

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>they do believe me, she'll still side with him because

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:02.479
<v Speaker 2>like that's her favorite.

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Or if it's cause a family split, right right? Or

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>am I going to break the family again?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And how young are you when you're thinking all these thoughts? Well,

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I guess all the way to Oh my god, like

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>my entire life, like from the time that it happened.

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Like all my entire life, Like it was just kind

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 2>of like I just lock that away within myself because

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 2>it was just like, no, like I'll just carry this

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 2>and through doing the work of like healing. It was like, no,

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I have this this frog stuck in my throat of

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 2>this thing that I'm supposed to release that is literally

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 2>holding me back from being who I'm supposed to be

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 2>and from speaking my truth in the world. Because I'm like,

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>if there's a saying this is how you do anything,

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>it's how you do everything.

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 3>So if I'm holding back.

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Man, that was deep how you do anything, it's how

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>you do everything. So I'm over here with words ever spoken.

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to learn that I'm not forty though, but yeah, yeah.

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, I'm holding back over in

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>this area of my life and suppressing my truth. Guess what,

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm also holding back and playing small in my career.

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm also holding back and playing small in my relationships.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm also holding back and playing small and all these

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 2>other things because how you do anything is how you

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 2>do everything.

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, lesson number one? Okay, I have a lat okay,

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>drop that gem Okay okay. And So in this process

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>of starting.

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 2>To get into these deep, dark layers of myself and

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 2>start to feel the the permission to speak my truth,

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to heal and not carry something that is not mine

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>to carry, and to be okay with whatever the outcome

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>is of me sharing this information, I was finally able

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 2>to get to a point where I was able to

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>break my silence. But I went through very dark times

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>getting to that place in between the Tony Robins and

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 2>yeah it was at so UPW was my first Tony

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Robbins event. Then I went to Date with Destiny, so

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and Date with Destiny makes UPW look like kindergarten like

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and this.

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Is all I feel like we're promoting. Tony Robins. Shout

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>out to him, hope you do the show by right,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>come on a lot of testimony, A lot of people

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>look at you all right now. Absolutely, because here's the thing.

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 2>There's so many tools to healing, there's so many pathways.

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>He was a big part of that first part of

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>my journey. And then I've gone on to other teachers

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>and modalities from plant medicines to other things, because I

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 2>really thought that personal development, growth enlightenment. I can just

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>take like this magic pill. If I just learned this

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>like one thing, if I into this one event and

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I did it well, I graduated, I was done.

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm healed, like I'm good child.

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 3>It's layers.

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:15.719
<v Speaker 2>It's so many layers because we have unlimited potential and

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 2>we have unlimited depth to us. So even as you

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>were healing and going up in this they call spiral dynamics.

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>There's still more to on earth. There's still more late

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 2>now you may not deal with the situation the same

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>way anymore. Maybe you are an abusive relationship and then

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and then you finally took your power back, so now

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 2>you're not in abusive relationships anymore, or you're able to

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>say no, that don't work for me. I have boundaries,

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>But then you'll be tested on something else because there'll

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>be another layer to that.

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>How does so you're going through this personal development journey?

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>How are you financing your life? How are you even

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>financing these because these clinics aren't.

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 2>And because as I went on this like deep dive,

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I ended up joining Tony's like Platinum Partnership, which is

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 2>a very hefty price. You probably end up spending around

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>one hundred K by the time you're done for that

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 2>like years you spent that. I ended up spending probably

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>like fifty because it's like you get private events. So

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>there's a small number of people that travel around the

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>world with Tony and we go to like private events,

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and then you get access to all of the regular

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>public events as well, and so I did all of

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>the public ones. I did only a few of the

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>private ones because like, money started running.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Out, Yeah, how are you financing all?

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>So it was through my severance from leaving the.

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>L and the money from the funeral couple spent all

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that money.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 3>That money was going.

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can have convinced me to spend my last

0:30:55.800 --> 0:31:00.239
<v Speaker 1>fifty on Tony. I'm sorry, Tony, you know Tony and

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the Girls. But hey, you led to three times best

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>selling author actress executive producers, So obviously this was a

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>pibroll milestone. What was the next pibroll milestone to get

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you closer to that? That?

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>What was the was what was the order of executive

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>producer actress? Because it sounds like you were doing acting

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>when you're doing the home shopping right, yes? Or is

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>that like your early early early acting.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 3>I guess yeah, I've done.

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I've been to like NCIS, New Orleans, like a

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>few HBO shows. So I did acting before before? What

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>got you to the acting milestone? So I my degree,

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>So I went to school for Dramatic Arts communication, and

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 2>then I also got a minor in psychology So I

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 2>started college when I was sixteen, and I wanted to

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>go to UCLA, but my parents like, yo, young naive self, No, ma'am,

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>You're not about to go out to California by yourself

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>at sixteen.

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I'm with them. Okay, So you were. You

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>were a very good student.

0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in two I think I was more so determined,

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I knew my real life was on the other

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 2>side of school. So I'm like, how could I get

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 2>through this process as fast as possible? And so in

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 2>high school because I was in the honors classes and

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, and then I realized I only needed

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>like so many more credits to be able to literally

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 2>skip a grade. And I was like, bet I went

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 2>to summer school, took like gyms, I went and got

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I never I still don't even necessarily drive to this day,

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I never was interested in driving.

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I notice you said you were going to get

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I love you, Like this is like literally from you.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>And the only reason why I went and got my

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 2>driver's license and took the driver's tess is because you

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>got school credit for it.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, God, got it. So you

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you you scaled through school, you graduated sixteen. Then you

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>go to college.

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I go to University of New Orleans because it was

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like pick something local.

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I go to U n O.

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 3>And then I did the same thing.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I went to the guidance counselor or whatever.

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 3>The administrative thing.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't found out how many class stocking tests out of

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Like how could I get through this even faster? And

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I ended up graduating college by nineteen.

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, I did see that on your bio.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, how do I get to the other

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>side of this process? Because my real life is over there.

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I just kept it envisioning, like I gotta do this, Like.

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>But yeh right. So then after you graduate college, your

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>next step is Hewlett Packard.

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 3>My next step.

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 2>So my last semester in college, I have an internship

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>at Fox eight. So Fox eight out of New Orleans,

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I get hired on. After I graduate, I worked as

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>a production assistant and then went into field producing. So

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I worked for Fox in news for two years and

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>every day a raper, murder of fire, raper murder of fire.

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this isn't First of all, I was

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 2>getting numb to those topics, and I was like, this

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>is not how I want to feel about this, so

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think this is the part of the TV

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>world that I want to be in. So I leave

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>from there, I start working at just independent production companies,

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>just working on just independent projects, and then I got

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>scooped up by Heltt Packard and they were like, oh okay,

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>inst and then I just I scaled up into management

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.399
<v Speaker 2>and the district management. And so I was with HP

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 2>for probably nearly a decade.

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And even in that time, I was still acting,

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and I even had a television show that I was

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>a part of the cast of a reality show that

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like shooting simultaneously with working as well. So

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I've always been one to have like multiple things going

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 2>on where possible. So then after leaving Heallett Packard, we

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>do the little stints.

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>We go from death to.

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Life and in that journey of going through personal development

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, shelling out a lot of cash for these

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 2>tools for this access and then the bank account starts

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 2>going down, down, down, down, down down down.

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Reality calls.

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 2>It calls big time, and it was like, wow, Okay,

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting these things that I need.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 3>But then on this other side, I'm going into a hole.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Yea, in this hole and I'm like, how do I

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>how do I now get out of this hole? Because

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>this planting that I'm doing, or really reading that I'm

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>doing and replanting that takes time, Like I'm not just

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>fixed overnight and then able to like step into my

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 2>power and step into my new life and figure out.

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I need money, Yeah, you need money,

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>So what's the next place.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>So in that time I also ended up writing a book,

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>So writing my first book called how to Become a

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Publicity Magnet in Any Market via TV Ratio in print

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>because everybody from my background and television, my background in

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 2>corporate at that time, people would always ask me, well,

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 2>how do I get my product or business or service

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 2>like on these very powerful platforms, And so I was

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 2>like I keep answering these questions over and over again

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 2>to people because there must be a better way.

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So literally wrote that book and then that was

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 2>my first kind of step into entrepreneurship because yeah, you

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 2>write a book, but it's more than just writing a book.

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do you get it picked up? How do

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you get it published? All that? So what did you do?

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 2>And so I worked with a managing editor, so through

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the publishing company that I worked with and so they

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 2>published the book.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>But how did you get the publishing?

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I found through the Tony Robbins world, So through my

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 2>connections that I had built in relationships that I had

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>built in that world. Wow.

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:56.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's the key thing too.

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:02.439
<v Speaker 2>You are the some of the people you surround yourself with,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Like proximity is power, and so yeah, I didn't have

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the money to be able to pay for a lot

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 2>of the services or things that I need, but I

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>had relationships with people who were able to help me

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>along that process and then able to get a deal

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 2>for the publishing of the book, and then all of

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 2>that stuff was taken care of of, like getting it

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 2>out there into the world, like we ended up getting

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 2>it to a number one bestseller. But it's like all

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that in between time there's no income coming in, Like

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing as you're building something. Yeah, and so you

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>have to like we're interdependent. Like I tried so hard,

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and I guess I think that was probably a trauma response,

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I always wanted to do everything myself. I wanted

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>to like just be misindependent and I don't want to

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>have to rely on you, because if I have to

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>rely on you, that means I have to trust you.

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 2>And if I have to trust you, then it means

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>that you could potentially pull the rug from underneath me.

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 1>And so I never thought of independence as a trauma response,

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>but when you break it down, I'm like, that is

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just yeah, that makes sense though

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>when you say it like that, Okay, learn more. And

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>independence can be considered a trauma respond be depending on

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>what the intention of it is.

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Because if the intention of it is to protect myself

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 2>and to shield myself from ever being hurt, from ever

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 2>being having to rely on somebody else where's that really

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 2>coming from.

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I never thought of independence as a trauma response, but

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>as an independent woman, boy, I'm very concerned about myself

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>now and it's beautiful.

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>When you look at independent people, you'd be like, yeah,

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you pay all your own bills. You be lying nobody.

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, you've been through a lot, but think about it,

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>but that's fun. You can still be independent.

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Would have an interdependent mindset that you know that no,

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I work in community with other people to be able

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 2>to do the things that I do. I can trust

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 2>and rely on because one I've come to trust myself.

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>So when I get that intuitive hit that you will know.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 2>You'll know if I get that intuitive hit that you

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 2>are a person that I shall say yes and move

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>forward with great I will trust that.

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>So if if and this is going off to the side,

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>but I have to ask, so if you have an

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>independent person, you think that's a trauma response. What happens

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to a person that's overly dependent? Is that coming from

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a uma tip? Okay, mid lane, you got that middle

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>lane again, It's about an overly dependent person come from

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a trauma response. You know what I to talk about

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 1>just one of those people that just skate through life

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 1>and everybody just somehow just falls in placement. It never

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the responsible is that can that when they end up response? Yeah,

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 1>like you know like just oh life was handed, Oh

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>life just had oh someone just could oh like could

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that be considered trauma or could that be like man,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.879
<v Speaker 1>they had so much people that they could depend on

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>around them that they just never became independent. This is

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>like a real question because I've seen I've seen it

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>dependent on my mind.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Who literally and he considers himself having a life of

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>riley and so and that's a term, the life of riley,

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 2>meaning that things just show up for you. So you've

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 2>never had to like literally take responsibility because life can

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>get the life handing you like opportunity, opportunity, resource after resource,

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Like you don't even know how to like do life

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>on your own.

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so life of Riley? Is that an effect of

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>any type of trauma? Or is that just like, hey,

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>someone was born on out the woman Cuba, just that, hey,

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 1>life of Riley on you. I've seen some people you like,

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, can't God just shake one branch that you please?

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not trying to be a hater, but so that's

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>not trauma or is that a trauma response if you're

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:11.760
<v Speaker 1>or is that just life of Riley.

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:12.919
<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>We all come here for our own lessons to learn,

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>and we have all had some type of trauma in

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 2>our lives. I mean, even the birth process is traumatic.

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 2>You coming through a very tight space into life and

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 2>coming into a bright light being smacked you know, on

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the behind, Like that's traumatic.

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>But you also don't really remember it either. So hmmm,

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know one person I was like, I remember

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the day I was born, coming down that into her

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>vagint No, I remember when she was breathing up. No,

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>don't nobody on earth knock all Wood if you if

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>you know anybody that remembers their birth story when I

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 1>definitely don't believe it. I don't know there's a reason

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>why you don't remember it, so you can't be considered trauma.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it can be considered trauma like

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a birth experience, you just don't remember it as nose well,

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>psychological things that happened in our early childhood.

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 2>You may not consciously remember it, but your unconscious mind

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>holds everything.

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Like it's old, with exception to the birth. Let's just

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>let's just because people have been born in toilets and bathrooms, like, no,

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not waking up like I remember that time and she,

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, had me in a toilet. You know what

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. So I just say the birth traumas

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>don't count for anyone that's like, well, I have that

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 1>one time when my mom gave birth. Back to your story,

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>so you're you're on this journey. You you you reach

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>out to an old partner from Tony Robbins or friend

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>or so affiliate from Tony Robbins, and you get a

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>publishing deal.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so my first book gets published. It does very well.

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.280
<v Speaker 2>It opens up the space for me to start speaking.

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 2>So I started speaking at like conferences events, and then

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 2>that like kind of opens something for me because I'm like, wait,

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I do have a voice. I am supposed to be

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 2>like sharing messages that matter to people around the world.

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>And so that opened because I really I consider myself like, yes,

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 2>I have these titles like executive, producer, actress, author, I

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 2>consider myself a highly effective communicator.

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>So now that you find out your great speaker and

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you're doing these speaking speaking gigs, your book is top selling,

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>what's the next play after that?

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 3>It's to continue to grow.

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, You've tapped into something, and now how

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 2>do we go deeper with it? How do we continue

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 2>not only the healing journey, but your expansion journey of

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 2>using your gifts and using your voice. And I've always

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 2>been a real big proponent of like Napoleon Hill, like

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 2>thinking Girl Rich has been a guide post in my

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 2>life and utilizing the six Steps to Riches that are

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 2>in that book, utilizing those principles of success and helping

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 2>to just reformulate how I see the world and how

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I operate in the world. And I decided like, Okay,

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 2>how can I take these principles and go even deeper

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 2>with them, so I decided to do so. The Napoleon

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Hill Foundation offers a certification program that allows you to

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 2>become a Napoleon Hill.

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you have to pay into it too? Oh my gosh, Okay.

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Everything takes.

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>And well because the training is it takes about three

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>years to go through the training program and there was.

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.959
<v Speaker 1>No expedated way. I'm sure if there was, you would

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>have skipped it.

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Girl.

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>So you did the three years.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 2>So it really is a lifelong thing. But no, I

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 2>don't even think it took me three years. It didn't

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>take a full three years because I did find ways

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to like just hammer out and get through each of

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the steps. So there's a home study program that you do,

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 2>there isn't in person, you know, leadership course that you do,

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 2>and then you do a certa service project so your

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 2>way of being able to give back through those principles.

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.240
<v Speaker 2>And while we were at the leadership certification in person,

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 2>we were in Frenchley, Indiana, which is the home of

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Napoleon Hill, and our entire class was given the assignment

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to write a one page children's story based upon one

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 2>of the principles that was assigned. So we all got

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 2>a little slip of paper with just a number on it.

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 2>So mine had the number ten. I was like ten.

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Perfect, that's enthusiasm. I was like, that's my favorite principle.

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like Bet.

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 2>And so we had to pick a writing partner, and

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 2>so I scanned the room and the lady who I

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 2>had rode in on the shuttle from the airport with

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, she was available, Diane, and so I was

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 2>like cool, like Dian. So we had an hour during

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 2>our lunch break. We go up to my room and

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>so we're thinking, okay, well, what kind of story can

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 2>we write about enthusiasm? And then this story just starts

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 2>coming out, and it starts coming out in this rhymed pattern.

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 2>So it was like okay, at right, and I was

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>like Bet, like, let's let's go with it. So we

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 2>write this story and it was called the Town of

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Lost and Found. We come back to the class and

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 2>like all the groups start going up presenting their story,

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 2>we get up. We present our story and the reaction

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>in the room was overwhelming, and we both looked at

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>each other and we was like, I think we got

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 2>something here. We go sit down. Other groups get up

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>and another group gets up and they do a story

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>on enthusiasm, and I was like, that was a different story.

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, there was only one principle as signed

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 2>for groups of how is that impossible? And so I

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 2>go back. I went into my little notebook. I pulled

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 2>out the little ten. I go look down the list

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 2>of principles. Ten is not enthusiasm. No, ten is accurate.

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>But I knew in that moment that God the universe

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 2>put a blinder over my eyes to see what I

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 2>needed to see in that moment.

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Got it.

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Got it because after the class was over, the executive

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 2>director of the Napoleon Hill Foundation and her assistant came

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 2>over to us and was like, we loved what you

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 2>all did with that story. And they were like, we

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know where this would go or what would happen,

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>but we would love for you to do that for

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 2>all seventeen of the principles.

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow. And so we were like, yes, I had always talk.

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you say yes how much or no, I get

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>my red my money back? You didn't say that. I

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>was just so honored.

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 2>And also because it was a dream come true and

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 2>why I had I used to say this all the time.

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.840
<v Speaker 2>We should talk about the power of your words. I

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 2>used to always tell people. I was like, I am

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the love child of Oprah Winfrey and Napoleon Hill. I

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, that's my real mom and dad.

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I hope your parents don't listen to this,

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 1>but wait backcheck.

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 2>So you end up publishing which I bought the book.

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 2>The name of the book called The Amazing Advantes of

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Oliver Hill.

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Oliver I just bought that book for my daughter is

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty amazing books. Book I did call you. This

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is what actually, you know, got us to talking was

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>this particular book. And the first thing I asked you

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, before we get into what I asked you,

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.799
<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the money stance, because we got

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk it. So you you, you and Diane, you

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>write this book. You write it book, you give it

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to Napoleon Hills.

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Still and I still know how much foundations And we

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 2>ended up giving it to them and giving the rights

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 2>of the book over to them so that all the

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 2>proceeds that come from the cell of that book go

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 2>back to the Napoleon Hill Foundation, and that became our

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 2>service project to them. There's more power in giving than receiving.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I knew that this was a legacy.

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>What does Napoleon Hill's Foundation do again?

0:48:58.360 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Key?

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 1>So they that book was very impressive. That book was

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 1>very good. And then I told you the only and

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 1>now I guess I'll say it, especially after knowing that

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>you gave away the rights. She didn't just give it

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>to them, she gave away all the rights. Okay, I

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>have like, okay, that book selld how many a lot?

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and you're still comfortable with giving okay because

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>picture there is a bigger picture. So I did get

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the book and the only thing that deterred me. And

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really a race I don't know if I'm

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 1>not really a race person, but uh, but I guess

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>for the sake of this, I'm gonna say I am.

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 1>It was a very impactful book when you think of

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 1>think and grow rich. I like to assume that all

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>black people have read this book. But I actually had

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 1>a conversation with a friend the other day and he said,

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 1>not all black read. Black people read that book. It

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 1>was like the book the people that are you know,

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 1>that are driven to read or whatever you have read

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 1>that book. Don't don't blanket it, but that book is

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a powerful book. I know it was a powerful book

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in my life. The question I have is, now you

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>have this book and it definitely translates very well. I

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>read my daughter's books, and I am one of those

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 1>people that will buy books and go I can't believe

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.919
<v Speaker 1>I bought this book, like either the either it's too

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 1>wordy or the pictures aren't right, or then you have

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 1>not enough words and you know so. And definitely, when

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 1>it comes to children's book, a book snob like as

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's weird. It's only with children's books. It's like

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 1>she has shoves at home, and I will order these

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:49.800
<v Speaker 1>books and buy it off the title. Now I like

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to skim them and see, like what the pictures are.

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Knowing that you had was the author one made me

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>buy it. But the first thing I asked you was like,

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand how a book of this much

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 1>powered impact had It looked like there was a bunch

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>of white kids on the cover, and I felt like,

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little black and brown kids. You know

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to read them a book and as I

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>get older, that reflects them. So you know, that was

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>the first question I asked you. And you could go

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>ahead and share your response because just in case anyone

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>else wants to buy the book for their kids, they

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>not absolutely shocked, but go ahead.

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 2>And so in the process of writing, we were sending

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the stories over to the Foundation, and then they hired

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 2>the illustrator to you know, illustrate it, which happened to

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 2>be a Korean, you know, young lady out of Korea

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 2>who literally only spoke Korean, so everything had to be

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 2>translated into Korean for her. And I had written out

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>very specific instructions on like the diversity I wanted to

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>see in this in this book, and when we got

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:55.720
<v Speaker 2>back the first sets of illustrations, they were literally absolutely

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 2>no kids of color, and I was like, no.

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>You had already signed the rights over before the project

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>or just trying to get it, just trying to get

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it right. Okay, Okay. The name of the book is

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>The Adventures of the Amazing Adventures of Oliver Hill. So

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 1>if you have young kids, definitely check out the book.

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, sorry to harp on this one part, because

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:21.799
<v Speaker 1>this is what caught my attention with you, you know,

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and it caught my attention as well, and so I

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>was like I reached back out to the Foundation.

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like cause they were so excited. They were like,

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:33.479
<v Speaker 2>these illustrations are so beautiful, and so it's interesting how

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 2>certain lenses like don't even see like the divide, don't

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 2>even see that. Wait, there's an issue here because we're

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 2>lacking some diversity. And so I brought that to their

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 2>attention and I was ready to if they weren't going

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 2>to do anything about it, to walk away, and so

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I reached out. I brought my concerns and I'm like,

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I cannot be an author of color and they're not

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 2>be not one person of color now, one little black girl,

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:07.240
<v Speaker 2>not one in this entire book, of all these characters

0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that we've created.

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is not okay. And the executive

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 3>director she agreed with me.

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 2>She was like no, like and we didn't even like

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't yeah, it was like literally an oversight. We

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 2>just saw like these beautiful illustrations, was like, wow, this

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 2>is amazing. And so they sent back instruction to the

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:30.919
<v Speaker 2>illustrator and then Julia, she is the character that they

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, re had redone and made a character of color.

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 2>And I still was like I wanted more and I

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 2>felt like it deserved to have more. And even in

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 2>that point or stage of my life. And again, the

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.440
<v Speaker 2>how you do anything is how you do everything. Like

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I settled, and I still had not gotten to my

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 2>full power yet in owning my voice yet, but I

0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 2>was grateful to have had enough healing at least stand.

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Up the transparency in that hole. What you just said

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>is crazy, Like that's appreciated because I don't think we openly,

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.879
<v Speaker 1>even as successful as we are acknowledged, Like maybe at

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>this point, maybe I did settle or what have you.

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie if the roles, if I was

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>in your shoes, I definitely would have done exactly what

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you said. Probably I don't know about the giving up

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the rights or anything. I don't know. I don't know

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 1>if I'm that much of a gift giver because the

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 1>book was really good, is really good, I did skim through.

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to, you know, right now, my daughter's into

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>The Monster Book right now, which is the most annoying

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 1>book in my life, but trying to get her to

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>sit down and read it. But I did, of course

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:46.359
<v Speaker 1>read it as an adult, and I was like, this

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 1>is a great book. I definitely want to get it

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 1>from my friend's kids. And I'm glad that like you

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>even like once you said that to me over the phone.

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, you know what you think

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:59.879
<v Speaker 1>about coming on eating while broke, But no, I'm glad

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:04.799
<v Speaker 1>hear that story. So so just to be clear, Napoleon Hill's Foundation, yes,

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.120
<v Speaker 1>not trying to get into it. So they got all

0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the proceeds. Diane didn't get anything. Nobody got you guys,

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>just okay, what does the Napoleon Hill do Foundation do for?

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 2>For? Where does that money go? So the Napoleon Hill

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Foundation is all about perpetuating and continuing to put Napoleon

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Hill's principles out into the world. So they do a

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:28.439
<v Speaker 2>lot of programs in the community. So this book went

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:31.760
<v Speaker 2>into schools. It became part of the Napoleon Hill scholars

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 2>program and universities where they would use that book and

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:39.359
<v Speaker 2>then go into schools with it. They use it like

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:43.280
<v Speaker 2>in library programs, and so it's used in some very

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:46.759
<v Speaker 2>like charitable and giving ways. Yes, they make proceeds, you know,

0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:49.839
<v Speaker 2>when the book sells online or through their website or

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 2>at events and things of that nature, but all of

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:55.319
<v Speaker 2>that too goes back into programming that they do for

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 2>the community.

0:55:56.440 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Alone. Foundation that the habit of malone foundation is what

0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 1>is impacting are you today?

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, even that whole experience, I just

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:16.239
<v Speaker 1>hope that even with that whole experience, maybe there could

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:23.760
<v Speaker 1>be just a have a habl of malone black version

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 1>or minority version.

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh you let me tell you, let me do you know?

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Because what that sparked in me? Because here's the thing.

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Life happens for us, not to us. I feel like

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 2>even that experience, it fulfilled a part of a dream

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of being a part of a legacy in Napoleon that

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 2>has impacted my life, and now I get to be

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a part of that legacy to help the next generation.

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:51.479
<v Speaker 2>It also sparked within me a seed of you. You've

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.080
<v Speaker 2>been able to do this for them. It's time for

0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 2>you to do it because you have the skill set,

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 2>you have the knowledge, You have things to share and

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 2>stories to share that can be put into a form

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.799
<v Speaker 2>for children to be able to ingest. And you can.

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:13.320
<v Speaker 2>But I wasn't ready at that time, but I can

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 2>with the view to diversity that I have in mind,

0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 2>with the view to inclusivity that I want to see

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 2>in the world in books and making sure that children

0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like, wow, this is for me I can create

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 2>that now.

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm looking forward to it and

0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I definitely, you know, would like to see the proceeds

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:39.000
<v Speaker 1>go to right. You know, I think what you did

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 1>was great. I mean knowledge is knowledge. I mean when

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Think and Grow Rich came out, I don't think anybody

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 1>was looking at the race of Napoleon Hell at the time, right,

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 1>or rich Dad, Poor Dad? Nobody.

0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 2>There's so many other versions of that book that have

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 2>come out since. Thinking We're Rich Ad Black Choice by

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Dennis kimbro He partnered with the foundation thinking did he

0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:58.240
<v Speaker 2>get to.

0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Keep Well, when you say partner with the foundation, do

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you know if he got to keep.

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Any of his?

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't?

0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what their deals are? Like investigator, how

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>many how many people from Napoleon Hill Graduation just turned

0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>around and gave back all their rights. I'm going to

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>open up full.

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 2>On investigation now, because like Sharon lecter So, she did

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Thinking Girl Rich for Women, she also did Three Feet

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 2>from Gold, which is through the Napoleon Hill Foundation.

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I doubt, I doubt she gave up all of her

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:35.200
<v Speaker 1>She's not black though. What about the Thinking gro richni

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 1>is kim Broke?

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Probably not?

0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 2>And there's Thinking gir richal Latino choice, there's thinking like

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 2>there's so many now versions of thinking Girl Rich that

0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 2>have been updated to have examples of people like of

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 2>our generation of time, and that are geared towards specific,

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 2>diverse audiences that will speak in terms that resonate with them.

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Because I always suggest to people the original one first

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 2>and then read one of the course alternative versions, because

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:09.760
<v Speaker 2>it'll give you the foundation of like where it was

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:13.680
<v Speaker 2>based from. Because Napoleon Hill he went and interviewed over

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 2>five hundred of the most successful people of his time,

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 2>from Thomas Edison to Henry Ford to President Woodrow Wilson

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 2>and President Roosevelt to find out Andrew Carnegie to find

0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 2>out what they did different from everybody else that made

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>them successful and was able to boil that down to

0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 2>seventeen principles that if you apply those principles, you will

0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:35.440
<v Speaker 2>be successful.

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Period. So and just a side note, since we're talking

0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>about books, you do a book. I don't know if

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you've ever read it, but it's one of my favorite books.

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:45.960
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of my favorites that are like my

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 1>go to. But have you read Outwitting the Double Heck, yes,

0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that is from Napoleon Hill, right, that

0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.080
<v Speaker 1>book was a phenomenal. I think people don't talk about

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 1>that book enough.

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 2>That conversation that he had, I thought that was so brilliant.

0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 2>He so his family.

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I space that was from Napoleon. Yeah, okay,

1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess the Napoleon and Hell Foundation ain't that bad? Right? Well,

1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Do you get unlimited membership to like

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:14.040
<v Speaker 1>get more classes for free? Oh I'm a part of

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the okay family, so you get free no more pain? No?

1:00:18.080 --> 1:00:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay cool? Do you get a friends of family? Uh?

1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And for free?

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Well if they don't do like the events that the

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:28.919
<v Speaker 2>foundation does are more like fundraiser events anyways, So it's

1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:30.440
<v Speaker 2>not but for the schooling.

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the certification program, it's not a lot.

1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Like the certification program is like really inexpensive, like what

1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:38.480
<v Speaker 2>probably less than a thousand dollars.

1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, all right, so okay, okay, so you go

1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:48.040
<v Speaker 1>on after this. I just want to know that you

1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.880
<v Speaker 1>get a friends and family, you know, like I have

1:00:50.920 --> 1:00:54.080
<v Speaker 1>girlfriends that could be their friends and family. Uh, Marriott

1:00:54.160 --> 1:00:57.040
<v Speaker 1>discounts and like it. You know, I just want to

1:00:57.080 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 1>know if you get a friends of family because you

1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:02.680
<v Speaker 1>because I know that book sold a lot. That book

1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:04.280
<v Speaker 1>sold a lot and it had a huge has a

1:01:04.320 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 1>huge impact. So after this book goes on to be

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:11.720
<v Speaker 1>a best seller, you say, well, heck man, I got

1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to put out on another book, right.

1:01:15.600 --> 1:01:20.680
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't put out another book. It's interesting about me.

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<v Speaker 2>I do what I feel called at a time that

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<v Speaker 2>I feel called to it. And so when I feel

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<v Speaker 2>called to share a message or to do a specific

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<v Speaker 2>thing or create a certain thing, then that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Even if it's like no, now the top

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<v Speaker 2>you got to like create this and do that. Unless

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<v Speaker 2>it's an internal calling, it ain't happening. Spoken like a

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<v Speaker 2>true entrepreneur. So how are you surviving this whole time

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<v Speaker 2>while you're you know, you giving away money. I love

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<v Speaker 2>it because I was still doing exact speaking engagements. So

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<v Speaker 2>my first book was still selling. I was still speaking

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<v Speaker 2>on that, on those topics, and now it also opened

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<v Speaker 2>up speaking engagements for those principles of success and like

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<v Speaker 2>speaking on thinking grown, yeah, thinking you're rich topics, so

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<v Speaker 2>to corporations and to schools and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get paid, you know, to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>do those things. I wasn't making money from the book. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those posts were going to the foundation. There was fruits

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<v Speaker 2>to the book, yes, okay. And that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>people don't realize. It's like, even for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>your money isn't going to really be made from the product.

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<v Speaker 2>It's from all the ancillary things around the product.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny because this conversation comes up a lot lately,

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<v Speaker 1>but eating while broke but ancillary. So you made money

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<v Speaker 1>off the ancillaries in addition to the book, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>skating through life. What's your next BIG's play? Like are

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<v Speaker 1>you starting to just act more? Or can you take

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<v Speaker 1>me there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was interesting. So I'm doing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of speeches. Goal Cast, which is an online motivational platform.

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<v Speaker 2>They do these like how do you say, like condensed

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<v Speaker 2>motivational videos and you have people like Tony Robbins, Oprah

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<v Speaker 2>Winfrey like and they're viral videos that they create. And

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<v Speaker 2>so they picked up one of my speeches and then

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<v Speaker 2>did a gold Cast video, so it almost becomes like

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<v Speaker 2>a little Ted talk and that thing. It went viral

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<v Speaker 2>and it was about following your childhood dreams, and so

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<v Speaker 2>many people started reaching out like wow, this really motivated

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<v Speaker 2>me to like go after like I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be a nurse, and like I finally just went ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, I'm going to nursing school now,

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<v Speaker 2>or like all these things, and I'm just like something

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<v Speaker 2>clicked inside of me. And I was like, you're out

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<v Speaker 2>here sharing all these principles telling people to go after

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<v Speaker 2>their dreams, do these things. But there's a dream that

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<v Speaker 2>you have that you still haven't fully pursued yet. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna sit there and tell if people do

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<v Speaker 2>something that you still need to do? And I was like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>so I told you. I started college when I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>My first career path, or the first path I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to go down, was to become a lawyer. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in high school, I was a part

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<v Speaker 2>of a junior league program where we used to try

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<v Speaker 2>real cases in court, and so the defendants were already

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<v Speaker 2>found guilty of their crimes, but we just already sentencing

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<v Speaker 2>in front of the judge. And I loved it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to become a lawyer. And then right

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<v Speaker 2>when I was having to make my decision of you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I was going to study in school, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like I can go to law school become a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>or I could just play one on TV. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably way more fun. So I went the dramatic

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<v Speaker 2>arts communication to the entertainment route. So I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you have done all these other things on television, play cops,

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<v Speaker 2>like all this stuff, but you have never played a

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer on television and you literally changed the trajectory of

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<v Speaker 2>your life to fulfill this dream that you've not done.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, Okay, it's time. It's time for

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<v Speaker 2>me to practice when I am preaching. I literally made

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<v Speaker 2>a decision that day and I was like, I'm moving

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<v Speaker 2>to California to more fully pursue my acting career and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to play a lawyer on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I took Napoleon Hills, Think and Grow rich in those

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<v Speaker 2>six Steps to Richest formula, and I created a plan

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<v Speaker 2>for myself. I reached out to an acting coach that

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<v Speaker 2>I had out here, like from years ago, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, when is your next intensive or your next

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<v Speaker 2>course starting up? Like when is that happening? She told

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<v Speaker 2>me it was going to be June twenty ninth. This

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<v Speaker 2>was of twenty nineteen. I said, Bet I'll be there

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<v Speaker 2>by June twenty six. This was fifty one days between

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<v Speaker 2>the day I called her and then June twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>So I took that formula. I created my plan. June

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, I moved out to California and I literally

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<v Speaker 2>like hit the ground running. Within two years of being here.

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<v Speaker 2>I booked a role as a lawyer on HBOS and

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<v Speaker 2>Secure and it was just like and I've done like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, like in the commercial world. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had like four Super Bowl commercials constant, even during the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I felt like super blessed because I was still

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<v Speaker 2>able to because I had production background, because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the commercials you saw during that time were like

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<v Speaker 2>zoom commercials or like cell phone you know type of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Because content still had to be created even though we

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't get together to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thrived in that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only did I I stayed booked and busy, I

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<v Speaker 2>also was able to take a three month cross country

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<v Speaker 2>road trip because I was like, I have to keep

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<v Speaker 2>looking at these four walls.

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<v Speaker 3>I could look at any four walls I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I literally traveled across the country still working and

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<v Speaker 2>had the most tremendous experience, and the career has only

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<v Speaker 2>continued to just like escalate and escalate, and more and

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<v Speaker 2>more things came and I got to the point I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I really only have three more specific acting goals,

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<v Speaker 2>So then what is next? What's the next iteration? And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like to be able to be in a position

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<v Speaker 2>to create opportunities, to be able to tell the stories

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell and open the doors for other

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<v Speaker 2>people to do what they do very well. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>come from a management background, I come from a business background,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm just like, executive producing is very much the

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<v Speaker 2>business of it all, and so it just it felt

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<v Speaker 2>like the right step and the move to move forward

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<v Speaker 2>in this industry. So I was like, outside of those

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<v Speaker 2>like three specific acting goals, I'm just like, it's time

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<v Speaker 2>for me to help more stories get told. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I've gotten the opportunity to do. Like we're

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<v Speaker 2>actually in pre production right now on a film and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm executive producing and in the casting process.

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<v Speaker 1>Of because good lord, that is a whole nother.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I've you know, helped her to invest money

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<v Speaker 2>in other projects, and I'm just like, there's nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot accomplish if you set your mind to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've also published another book. So during the pandemic, I

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<v Speaker 2>finally because the universe was like, oh, you're saying you're

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<v Speaker 2>so busy that you can't write this book that you've

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<v Speaker 2>been knowing you're supposed to write and this message you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to share. So now let me put the universe

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<v Speaker 2>on pause so that you have nothing but time to

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<v Speaker 2>sit here and write this book. And so that was

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<v Speaker 2>the one that came out in twenty twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>which was Rewriting a New History, a spiritual path to

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<v Speaker 2>audacious authenticity and healing, which goes into because there's many

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<v Speaker 2>forms and modalities for healing, but this one goes very

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<v Speaker 2>deeply into ayahuasca. And so I'm just I'm just super grateful,

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<v Speaker 2>like just for this life and how it continues to

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<v Speaker 2>unfold and all that I get to keep learning because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still learning, I'm still growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're definitely one that's hungry to learn and grow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say that you definitely put a lot of focus

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<v Speaker 1>on that, and I can appreciate that, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>do focus a lot more on money, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can appreciate that there was that's a lot. So what

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<v Speaker 1>advice would you give to anyone coming up behind you,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're pursuing acting, publishing, for any any dream. And

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<v Speaker 1>can you just quickly before you get out, just name

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<v Speaker 1>the six principles. Oh six stepsis, Yeah, just name them.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to explain them.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's to determine the amount of money that you want,

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<v Speaker 2>like the specific amount of money that you want. Determine

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<v Speaker 2>the date by which you want to attain that money.

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<v Speaker 2>The third step is to determine what you're willing to

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<v Speaker 2>get give in order to receive that money. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>write out a written statement of your plan to attain

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<v Speaker 2>the money. And then the fifth one is that all

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<v Speaker 2>morning and night you will recite that out loud with feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>with belief that that is already attained.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm missing a step. You create the goal you Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you write it. Yeah, you get to write it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you create the money goal that you want.

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<v Speaker 1>To say the sixth steps.

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<v Speaker 2>You will determine the amount of money that you want,

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<v Speaker 2>specific a specific dollar amount. You will determine the date

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<v Speaker 2>by which you want that amount of money. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>will write that down into a written statement. You will

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<v Speaker 2>determine what you will give in order to receive that money,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you will take that written statement and you

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<v Speaker 2>will say that out loud with feeling and belief in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, when you wake up, and before you go

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<v Speaker 2>to bed at night. And that is to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to solidify that within yourself and draw that to yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and allow that to flow through.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Yeah, I like that. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the that's right. There is the advice to be honest. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you gotta determine what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta determine. I think I seen Oprah say that

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<v Speaker 1>on some clip, saying, like a lot of people just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what they want. And you know what, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm very frustrated or I don't know what to do,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends will say, you know what, it sounds to

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<v Speaker 1>me like you don't know what you want, So why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you figure it out what it is you want?

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<v Speaker 1>Have that conversation with yourself, give us the answer. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to judge you, and we could proceed. But

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<v Speaker 1>until you know what you want then then yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>and in that I was like, oh, okay, well that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. And now now I say it, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you want. Oh, I know what I want, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that by me knowing what I want, I

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<v Speaker 1>also indirectly know what I don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. When you ask people, for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part, what do you want, they will immediately go

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<v Speaker 2>to what they don't want because it's easier for their

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<v Speaker 2>mind to grasp or to articulate or I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>it to be like this, and I don't want that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want it to be like this. But then,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what you're giving energy to, that's what you're

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<v Speaker 2>giving focus to, that's what you're literally drawing in. You

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<v Speaker 2>are magnetizing the thing that you don't want because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you're focused on. If you could literally let that

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<v Speaker 2>go and solely focus on what you want, it has

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<v Speaker 2>no choice but to come to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. Uh, I agree with that. And guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're hungry and you're broke, feel free to get

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<v Speaker 1>some instant grits, some jilo penos, and some cashiers, because

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<v Speaker 1>I assure you that is a fulfilling meal and we

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<v Speaker 1>after we close out, me and Havala will be eating

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<v Speaker 1>that for lunch. Thank y'all all for tuning in on

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of Eating While Broke