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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guests having a Malone, executive producer, actress, and three

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Speaker 1: times best selling author is in the building. Yes, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming through. I really appreciate it and

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Speaker 1: excited to have you. But before we get into your

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Speaker 1: journey of h before success, what will you have me

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Speaker 1: eating today?

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Speaker 2: We're going to be tasting some spicy, cheesy grits. It

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Speaker 2: would have been shrimp and grits, but you know, no shrimp.

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Speaker 1: No shrimp who was used budget friendly and then with

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Speaker 1: the cash us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we need a little protein and we don't

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Speaker 2: have no shrimp, so we go.

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Speaker 1: Cas you put the cashews in the grits.

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Speaker 3: We do, put the cashewes inside the grits.

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Speaker 1: Oh for real, I didn't know. When I saw you

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Speaker 1: said cashews for protein, you know, grits and jalapenos, I

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Speaker 1: was like, this is definitely affordable. This whole meal can

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Speaker 1: break out to like twenty meals, and I think the

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Speaker 1: total was like seven bucks with inflation. Yeah, well I

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Speaker 1: would say more than twenty meals. I'm just gonna say

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Speaker 1: that right now. They gave me the only cheesy grits

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Speaker 1: came in like a bulk size from Walmart, so definitely affordable.

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Speaker 1: But I was thrown off by the cashoes. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know how this whole thing was going to play out.

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Speaker 1: But go ahead, you could start whipping up.

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Speaker 2: That dish and don't make sure this water is nice

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Speaker 2: and hot and boiling.

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Speaker 3: Definitely want to start with.

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Speaker 1: This and grits because well, first of all, I'm.

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Speaker 2: From New Orleans, so we already have like comfort food,

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Speaker 2: and then it's something that will really stick with you.

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Speaker 2: So you eat grits and then you're gonna be full

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Speaker 2: for a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of time. Yeah, that's how I feel about my

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Speaker 1: low key morning hack. Now is I wake up, when

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Speaker 1: I prepare my daughter's lunch and everything, I will make

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Speaker 1: myself an egg and cheese sandwich and just two eggs toasts.

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Speaker 1: And then sometimes I'll instead of putting like just butter

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Speaker 1: on it, I'll use hummus for extra prosin. It sounds crazy,

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Speaker 1: but I do put hummus, like especially a spicy hummus

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Speaker 1: on it, or I'll do avocado. And I promise you

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Speaker 1: that egg sandwich will hold me till like three o'clock

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Speaker 1: from seven in the morning. I'm like, yo, that is

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Speaker 1: the ultimate hack. And I don't know if it's just

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Speaker 1: all the protein in it, but it definitely holds me up.

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Speaker 3: With that egg, the yolk of that egg is really filling.

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Speaker 2: And then the bread, Yeah, like that bread is going

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Speaker 2: like stick to sticky.

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Speaker 1: Aside, But if you guys have never done the egg

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Speaker 1: hummus breakfast sandwich, I promise you it is really good.

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Speaker 1: Do you eat hummus?

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Speaker 3: I do eat hummus.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about putting that concoction together?

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Speaker 3: Mm? Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: I promise you it is good. But take me back

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Speaker 1: to what was going on during the time of the

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Speaker 1: grits cast used in Jilapino era.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the bank account was very slim, extremely slim. I

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Speaker 2: had experienced a layoff from a job that I had

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Speaker 2: for over a decade, and even though yes, they had

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Speaker 2: given us a you know, a severance package you know

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Speaker 2: from after leaving, but instead of me going straight into

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Speaker 2: another you know job, I decided to figure out my

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Speaker 2: life and figure out what I wanted for my life.

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Speaker 2: And that brought me into a deep dive into like

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Speaker 2: personal development.

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Speaker 1: Pause. I don't think there's enough water to cook on.

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Speaker 3: I know, I don't think so either. I think.

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Speaker 1: You have to cook all some of that is just

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Speaker 1: for uh, for just so people don't not at she

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Speaker 1: was about to cook like four six packs old. It

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Speaker 1: would have been the dry spirts of all time. No,

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Speaker 1: we bushed it out just for two looking like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we would have set you up to fail. All right,

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Speaker 1: go on, go back to your story. Sorry about that. Hilarious.

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Speaker 2: So I was in the midst of, you know, trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out what my next steps were, you know,

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Speaker 2: within my life.

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Speaker 1: And how old were you at this time? I was

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Speaker 1: hard to be twenty, like late twenties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, late twenties.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you go back to square one, and what

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Speaker 1: job was this at the time?

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Speaker 2: This was I was working in corporate America. I was

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Speaker 2: working for Hewlett Packard, so I had I was the

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Speaker 2: district sales manager for them. I was running one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty million dollar technology business for them.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And then I was also their spokesperson on like the

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Speaker 2: Home Shopping Network and QBC, like selling their products on air.

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Speaker 2: And it was the economy took a really big downturn,

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Speaker 2: and so their business started of course going down, and

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Speaker 2: they decided because they were contemplating breaking off the computing

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Speaker 2: and printing sides of the business, and then instead they

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Speaker 2: were just like, we'll just eliminate complete organizations to be

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Speaker 2: able to save money.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: It was a blessing in disguise because I used to

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Speaker 2: wake up every day depressed, and not because it wasn't

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Speaker 2: a good job, not because I wasn't paid well, not

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Speaker 2: because I didn't work with great people, but because I

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Speaker 2: was at a place in my life that it was

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Speaker 2: time to move on and to really.

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Speaker 3: Discover who I was.

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Speaker 2: And I would move on because I was afraid of

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Speaker 2: what was on the other side, and everybody in my family,

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Speaker 2: my life was like, you better not lead a good job.

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Speaker 1: You've been not you know.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just like, okay, well, let me just get

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Speaker 2: up out of bed, put the smile on, and keep

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Speaker 2: doing the thing. And God, the universe, whatever you want

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Speaker 2: to call it, was like, no, boo, I need you

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Speaker 2: to move on because I have more for you. But

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Speaker 2: you can't stay here in this space, in this spot.

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Speaker 3: So cool you don't.

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Speaker 1: Do it, I'll get you there, right, I'll do it

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: And that came in the form of a layoff, and

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Speaker 2: it was like a part of me, of course, was

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Speaker 2: like WHOA. Okay, well now what does this mean? Because

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Speaker 2: my identity was tied to that position. My identity was

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Speaker 2: tied to this title, and it was like who am

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Speaker 2: I without this? And it literally I think we is

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Speaker 2: this nice and cooked? Now We're gonna let it just

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Speaker 2: sit for a second, off this heat. But really just

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out who I was. And in that

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Speaker 2: got an opportunity to go and work for another in

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Speaker 2: another division within the company. But I was like, I

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Speaker 2: can keep doing what I know how to do. That's

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Speaker 2: can figure out who I am and what.

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Speaker 3: I really want?

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Speaker 1: So what was your next play?

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Speaker 2: So my next play I got reached out to by

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Speaker 2: a friend who he only reaches out probably like once

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Speaker 2: or twice a year, just like check in.

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Speaker 1: I love friends like that. By the way, Oh it's

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Speaker 1: such a such I ain't heart room and a while

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Speaker 1: and then and they were like priority calls to when

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Speaker 1: you do get those once in a BlueMoon calls, You're like,

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Speaker 1: I got to call him back.

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Speaker 2: And so he reaches out and that in that call,

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Speaker 2: he was just like, yo, it's just checking on you,

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Speaker 1: And this is what had just happened.

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Speaker 2: And so like I shared with him with the situation was,

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Speaker 2: and he was just like, you know, oh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: keep you in my prayers, you know, definitely, you know,

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Speaker 2: keeping you uplifted.

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Speaker 1: Like everything's gonna work out. He was very you know,

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Speaker 2: And two days later, it was about like two days later,

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Speaker 2: he reaches back out to me and he was like,

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Speaker 2: I have a friend who I'm gonna have reach out

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Speaker 2: And so I was like, okay, look, thank you. You know,

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Speaker 2: like I appreciate it. The friend reaches out and the

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Speaker 2: opportunity was to work as a community outreach director at

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Speaker 2: a funeral home.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, right, but that's why you started with a laugh?

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Speaker 1: Did you end up taking the job?

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Speaker 3: Girl?

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Speaker 2: I was like, I really appreciate you, you know, reaching

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Speaker 2: out and offering this opportunity to me. However, you know,

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Speaker 2: this doesn't really align, you know, with her. He was

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Speaker 2: like I get it. He was like, your background and

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Speaker 2: what you do like this this really isn't you know

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Speaker 2: what you do? But we would love to have you,

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Speaker 2: and like, there's there could be something here while you're

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Speaker 2: figuring it out. Why are you figuring it out? And

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Speaker 2: it was local to you too, and it was local okay,

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Speaker 2: And I was just like no, but he kept pressing.

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Speaker 2: He literally kept pressing, and so I was just kind

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Speaker 2: of like, he said, look, just come meet with me,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, sir, you just at a funeral home. Like literally, now, the.

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Speaker 1: Thing about it, it's got to be hard to like

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Speaker 1: get employees from funeral homes. Son, I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: commission based. Oh oh yeah, yeah, he would have lost me,

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Speaker 1: So go on. So you it sounds like you took

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Speaker 2: So I go to this meeting and in this meeting,

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Speaker 2: I meet a mirror of myself and his assistant director

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Speaker 2: who she was an older version of what I would

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Speaker 2: envision myself to be when I got older. And so

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Speaker 2: it was because of her and wanting to be in

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Speaker 2: proximity to this woman that I took the job. Now

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Speaker 2: I was only there for two months and I was like, child,

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Speaker 2: this is not for me. But it brought me to

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Speaker 1: Knowing of what was possible for my life. Both. So

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Speaker 1: when you see this woman, yes, you're you, you admire

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Speaker 1: it's a sense of admiring.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just a sense of my admiration. It was

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Speaker 2: a sense of like soul connection. Really, it was a.

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Speaker 1: Sense she was just in the room or she was

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Speaker 1: actually with you guys interviewing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was in the room, like so she so

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Speaker 2: he was the director of the facility.

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Speaker 3: She was the assistant director.

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Speaker 2: So she was there to like be a part of

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Speaker 2: the interview and and in meeting her.

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Speaker 1: Like her power, her presence, and she was the assistant director. Yes, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: hmm okay, No, she should have been the director. I

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Speaker 1: just want to get the whole picture, okay. So it

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Speaker 1: was the assistant director that caught your attention, okay. And

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Speaker 1: the way she held her power, oh it was palpable.

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Speaker 1: You could feel it. But she also young too, she

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Speaker 1: was older she was older.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, probably at that time, maybe in her sixties

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Speaker 2: or so, but of course, you know, black don't crack.

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Speaker 1: So she was yeah, now before we break the story. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Most mantra that can make you walk on fire cool moss,

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Speaker 2: And so that being a part of that community, coming

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Speaker 2: being able to literally rewire your neural network so that

439
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: like you don't have to think about breathing, it just

440
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: happens automatically. You don't have to think about when you

441
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: get close to your home, probably just go on autopilot

442
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: because you know the path to get home, that's a

443
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 2: neural pathway that has been ingrained or grooves in your

444
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,239
Speaker 2: brain and we have that is in terms of our

445
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: belief system about things as well. And this helps you

446
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: to literally rewire that. So I believed I wasn't good enough.

447
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: I believed I wasn't smart enough. I believed, you know,

448
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't worthy of this level of living, and so

449
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: everything I did was in alignment with that, because that's

450
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: what I believe. That's where my neural pathway was. But

451
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: now I can rewire it. Yeah I am worthy. Yeah

452
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: I can have that. Yeah I'm supposed to have that,

453
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 2: and then it rewires to that, and then your life's

454
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: condition starts to unveil that new reality. And so that

455
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: opened this space for me, and so I went into

456
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: a deep dive into personal development. But here's the thing.

457
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: Once you start going in and pulling through these layers,

458
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: all the dark stuff starts to come up too, Like

459
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: all the stuff to be dealt with has to be

460
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: dealt with. And so my traumas of being sexually molested

461
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: when I was, you know, in my youth, and having

462
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 2: literally lock that into myself where I was gonna take

463
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: that to my grave, I would have never told anybody,

464
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: never addressed it with my family.

465
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: It was my brother, so like, yeah, that was like

466
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: a Noah, and who's gonna believe me anyway? And oh

467
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: you had that feeling too, Oh my god.

468
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed I believed that I say something and then

469
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 2: they're gonna be like, no, it didn't like what are

470
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: you talking about. I had a belief system that my

471
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: because I was close to my dad and my mom

472
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: was like really close to my brother, and I felt

473
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: like she loved.

474
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: Him more even though it wasn't true.

475
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: But like I just like felt that because they're because

476
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: of their closeness, and so I'm like, well, even if

477
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: they do believe me, she'll still side with him because

478
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 2: like that's her favorite.

479
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: Or if it's cause a family split, right right? Or

480
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: am I going to break the family again?

481
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: You know?

482
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: And how young are you when you're thinking all these thoughts? Well,

483
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: I guess all the way to Oh my god, like

484
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: my entire life, like from the time that it happened.

485
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: Like all my entire life, Like it was just kind

486
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: of like I just lock that away within myself because

487
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: it was just like, no, like I'll just carry this

488
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: and through doing the work of like healing. It was like, no,

489
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: I have this this frog stuck in my throat of

490
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: this thing that I'm supposed to release that is literally

491
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: holding me back from being who I'm supposed to be

492
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: and from speaking my truth in the world. Because I'm like,

493
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: if there's a saying this is how you do anything,

494
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: it's how you do everything.

495
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: So if I'm holding back.

496
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: Man, that was deep how you do anything, it's how

497
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: you do everything. So I'm over here with words ever spoken.

498
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm starting to learn that I'm not forty though, but yeah, yeah.

499
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: And so I was like, I'm holding back over in

500
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: this area of my life and suppressing my truth. Guess what,

501
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm also holding back and playing small in my career.

502
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm also holding back and playing small in my relationships.

503
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm also holding back and playing small and all these

504
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: other things because how you do anything is how you

505
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: do everything.

506
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: Okay, lesson number one? Okay, I have a lat okay,

507
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: drop that gem Okay okay. And So in this process

508
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: of starting.

509
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: To get into these deep, dark layers of myself and

510
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: start to feel the the permission to speak my truth,

511
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: to heal and not carry something that is not mine

512
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: to carry, and to be okay with whatever the outcome

513
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: is of me sharing this information, I was finally able

514
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: to get to a point where I was able to

515
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: break my silence. But I went through very dark times

516
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: getting to that place in between the Tony Robins and

517
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: yeah it was at so UPW was my first Tony

518
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: Robbins event. Then I went to Date with Destiny, so

519
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 2: and Date with Destiny makes UPW look like kindergarten like

520
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: and this.

521
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: Is all I feel like we're promoting. Tony Robins. Shout

522
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: out to him, hope you do the show by right,

523
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: come on a lot of testimony, A lot of people

524
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: look at you all right now. Absolutely, because here's the thing.

525
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: There's so many tools to healing, there's so many pathways.

526
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: He was a big part of that first part of

527
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: my journey. And then I've gone on to other teachers

528
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: and modalities from plant medicines to other things, because I

529
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: really thought that personal development, growth enlightenment. I can just

530
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: take like this magic pill. If I just learned this

531
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: like one thing, if I into this one event and

532
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: I did it well, I graduated, I was done.

533
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm healed, like I'm good child.

534
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: It's layers.

535
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 2: It's so many layers because we have unlimited potential and

536
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: we have unlimited depth to us. So even as you

537
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: were healing and going up in this they call spiral dynamics.

538
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: There's still more to on earth. There's still more late

539
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: now you may not deal with the situation the same

540
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: way anymore. Maybe you are an abusive relationship and then

541
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: and then you finally took your power back, so now

542
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: you're not in abusive relationships anymore, or you're able to

543
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: say no, that don't work for me. I have boundaries,

544
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: But then you'll be tested on something else because there'll

545
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: be another layer to that.

546
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

547
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: How does so you're going through this personal development journey?

548
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: How are you financing your life? How are you even

549
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: financing these because these clinics aren't.

550
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: And because as I went on this like deep dive,

551
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: I ended up joining Tony's like Platinum Partnership, which is

552
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: a very hefty price. You probably end up spending around

553
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: one hundred K by the time you're done for that

554
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: like years you spent that. I ended up spending probably

555
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: like fifty because it's like you get private events. So

556
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: there's a small number of people that travel around the

557
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: world with Tony and we go to like private events,

558
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: and then you get access to all of the regular

559
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: public events as well, and so I did all of

560
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: the public ones. I did only a few of the

561
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: private ones because like, money started running.

562
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Out, Yeah, how are you financing all?

563
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: So it was through my severance from leaving the.

564
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: L and the money from the funeral couple spent all

565
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: that money.

566
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: That money was going.

567
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can have convinced me to spend my last

568
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: fifty on Tony. I'm sorry, Tony, you know Tony and

569
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: the Girls. But hey, you led to three times best

570
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: selling author actress executive producers, So obviously this was a

571
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: pibroll milestone. What was the next pibroll milestone to get

572
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: you closer to that? That?

573
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: Like?

574
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: What was the was what was the order of executive

575
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: producer actress? Because it sounds like you were doing acting

576
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: when you're doing the home shopping right, yes? Or is

577
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: that like your early early early acting.

578
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, I've done.

579
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: Like I've been to like NCIS, New Orleans, like a

580
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: few HBO shows. So I did acting before before? What

581
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: got you to the acting milestone? So I my degree,

582
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: So I went to school for Dramatic Arts communication, and

583
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: then I also got a minor in psychology So I

584
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: started college when I was sixteen, and I wanted to

585
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: go to UCLA, but my parents like, yo, young naive self, No, ma'am,

586
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: You're not about to go out to California by yourself

587
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: at sixteen.

588
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm with them. Okay, So you were. You

589
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: were a very good student.

590
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, in two I think I was more so determined,

591
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: Like I knew my real life was on the other

592
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: side of school. So I'm like, how could I get

593
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: through this process as fast as possible? And so in

594
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: high school because I was in the honors classes and

595
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and then I realized I only needed

596
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: like so many more credits to be able to literally

597
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: skip a grade. And I was like, bet I went

598
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: to summer school, took like gyms, I went and got

599
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: I never I still don't even necessarily drive to this day,

600
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: Like I never was interested in driving.

601
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I notice you said you were going to get

602
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: I love you, Like this is like literally from you.

603
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: And the only reason why I went and got my

604
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: driver's license and took the driver's tess is because you

605
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: got school credit for it.

606
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, God, got it. So you

607
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: you you scaled through school, you graduated sixteen. Then you

608
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: go to college.

609
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: I go to University of New Orleans because it was

610
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: like pick something local.

611
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: I go to U n O.

612
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: And then I did the same thing.

613
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: I went to the guidance counselor or whatever.

614
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: The administrative thing.

615
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: Wasn't found out how many class stocking tests out of

616
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: Like how could I get through this even faster? And

617
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: I ended up graduating college by nineteen.

618
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I did see that on your bio.

619
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

620
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: I was like, how do I get to the other

621
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: side of this process? Because my real life is over there.

622
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: I just kept it envisioning, like I gotta do this, Like.

623
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: But yeh right. So then after you graduate college, your

624
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: next step is Hewlett Packard.

625
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: My next step.

626
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: So my last semester in college, I have an internship

627
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: at Fox eight. So Fox eight out of New Orleans,

628
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: I get hired on. After I graduate, I worked as

629
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: a production assistant and then went into field producing. So

630
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 2: I worked for Fox in news for two years and

631
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: every day a raper, murder of fire, raper murder of fire.

632
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: I was like, this isn't First of all, I was

633
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: getting numb to those topics, and I was like, this

634
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: is not how I want to feel about this, so

635
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't think this is the part of the TV

636
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: world that I want to be in. So I leave

637
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: from there, I start working at just independent production companies,

638
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: just working on just independent projects, and then I got

639
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: scooped up by Heltt Packard and they were like, oh okay,

640
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: inst and then I just I scaled up into management

641
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: and the district management. And so I was with HP

642
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: for probably nearly a decade.

643
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

644
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even in that time, I was still acting,

645
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: and I even had a television show that I was

646
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: a part of the cast of a reality show that

647
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 2: I was like shooting simultaneously with working as well. So

648
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: I've always been one to have like multiple things going

649
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: on where possible. So then after leaving Heallett Packard, we

650
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: do the little stints.

651
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: We go from death to.

652
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: Life and in that journey of going through personal development

653
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: and yeah, shelling out a lot of cash for these

654
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: tools for this access and then the bank account starts

655
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: going down, down, down, down, down down down.

656
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: Reality calls.

657
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 2: It calls big time, and it was like, wow, Okay,

658
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm getting these things that I need.

659
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: But then on this other side, I'm going into a hole.

660
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: Yea, in this hole and I'm like, how do I

661
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: how do I now get out of this hole? Because

662
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: this planting that I'm doing, or really reading that I'm

663
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: doing and replanting that takes time, Like I'm not just

664
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: fixed overnight and then able to like step into my

665
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: power and step into my new life and figure out.

666
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I need money, Yeah, you need money,

667
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: So what's the next place.

668
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

669
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: So in that time I also ended up writing a book,

670
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: So writing my first book called how to Become a

671
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: Publicity Magnet in Any Market via TV Ratio in print

672
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: because everybody from my background and television, my background in

673
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: corporate at that time, people would always ask me, well,

674
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: how do I get my product or business or service

675
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: like on these very powerful platforms, And so I was

676
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: like I keep answering these questions over and over again

677
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: to people because there must be a better way.

678
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

679
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: Yes, So literally wrote that book and then that was

680
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: my first kind of step into entrepreneurship because yeah, you

681
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: write a book, but it's more than just writing a book.

682
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you get it picked up? How do

683
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: you get it published? All that? So what did you do?

684
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: Yes?

685
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: And so I worked with a managing editor, so through

686
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: the publishing company that I worked with and so they

687
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: published the book.

688
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: But how did you get the publishing?

689
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: I found through the Tony Robbins world, So through my

690
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: connections that I had built in relationships that I had

691
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: built in that world. Wow.

692
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the key thing too.

693
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 2: You are the some of the people you surround yourself with,

694
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: Like proximity is power, and so yeah, I didn't have

695
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: the money to be able to pay for a lot

696
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: of the services or things that I need, but I

697
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: had relationships with people who were able to help me

698
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: along that process and then able to get a deal

699
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: for the publishing of the book, and then all of

700
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: that stuff was taken care of of, like getting it

701
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: out there into the world, like we ended up getting

702
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: it to a number one bestseller. But it's like all

703
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: that in between time there's no income coming in, Like

704
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: there's nothing as you're building something. Yeah, and so you

705
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: have to like we're interdependent. Like I tried so hard,

706
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: and I guess I think that was probably a trauma response,

707
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: Like I always wanted to do everything myself. I wanted

708
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: to like just be misindependent and I don't want to

709
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: have to rely on you, because if I have to

710
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: rely on you, that means I have to trust you.

711
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: And if I have to trust you, then it means

712
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: that you could potentially pull the rug from underneath me.

713
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: And so I never thought of independence as a trauma response,

714
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: but when you break it down, I'm like, that is

715
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: I thought it was just yeah, that makes sense though

716
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: when you say it like that, Okay, learn more. And

717
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: independence can be considered a trauma respond be depending on

718
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: what the intention of it is.

719
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: Because if the intention of it is to protect myself

720
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 2: and to shield myself from ever being hurt, from ever

721
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: being having to rely on somebody else where's that really

722
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: coming from.

723
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: I never thought of independence as a trauma response, but

724
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: as an independent woman, boy, I'm very concerned about myself

725
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: now and it's beautiful.

726
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: Now.

727
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: When you look at independent people, you'd be like, yeah,

728
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: you pay all your own bills. You be lying nobody.

729
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, you've been through a lot, but think about it,

730
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: but that's fun. You can still be independent.

731
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: Would have an interdependent mindset that you know that no,

732
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: I work in community with other people to be able

733
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: to do the things that I do. I can trust

734
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: and rely on because one I've come to trust myself.

735
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: So when I get that intuitive hit that you will know.

736
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: You'll know if I get that intuitive hit that you

737
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: are a person that I shall say yes and move

738
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: forward with great I will trust that.

739
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: So if if and this is going off to the side,

740
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: but I have to ask, so if you have an

741
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: independent person, you think that's a trauma response. What happens

742
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: to a person that's overly dependent? Is that coming from

743
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: a uma tip? Okay, mid lane, you got that middle

744
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: lane again, It's about an overly dependent person come from

745
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: a trauma response. You know what I to talk about

746
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: just one of those people that just skate through life

747
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: and everybody just somehow just falls in placement. It never

748
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: the responsible is that can that when they end up response? Yeah,

749
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: like you know like just oh life was handed, Oh

750
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: life just had oh someone just could oh like could

751
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: that be considered trauma or could that be like man,

752
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: they had so much people that they could depend on

753
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: around them that they just never became independent. This is

754
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: like a real question because I've seen I've seen it

755
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: dependent on my mind.

756
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: Who literally and he considers himself having a life of

757
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: riley and so and that's a term, the life of riley,

758
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: meaning that things just show up for you. So you've

759
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: never had to like literally take responsibility because life can

760
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: get the life handing you like opportunity, opportunity, resource after resource,

761
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: Like you don't even know how to like do life

762
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: on your own.

763
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so life of Riley? Is that an effect of

764
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: any type of trauma? Or is that just like, hey,

765
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: someone was born on out the woman Cuba, just that, hey,

766
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: life of Riley on you. I've seen some people you like,

767
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, can't God just shake one branch that you please?

768
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: You're not trying to be a hater, but so that's

769
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: not trauma or is that a trauma response if you're

770
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: or is that just life of Riley.

771
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

772
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: We all come here for our own lessons to learn,

773
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: and we have all had some type of trauma in

774
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: our lives. I mean, even the birth process is traumatic.

775
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: You coming through a very tight space into life and

776
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: coming into a bright light being smacked you know, on

777
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: the behind, Like that's traumatic.

778
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: But you also don't really remember it either. So hmmm,

779
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know one person I was like, I remember

780
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: the day I was born, coming down that into her

781
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: vagint No, I remember when she was breathing up. No,

782
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: don't nobody on earth knock all Wood if you if

783
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: you know anybody that remembers their birth story when I

784
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: definitely don't believe it. I don't know there's a reason

785
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: why you don't remember it, so you can't be considered trauma.

786
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it can be considered trauma like

787
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: a birth experience, you just don't remember it as nose well,

788
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: psychological things that happened in our early childhood.

789
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: You may not consciously remember it, but your unconscious mind

790
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: holds everything.

791
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: Like it's old, with exception to the birth. Let's just

792
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: let's just because people have been born in toilets and bathrooms, like, no,

793
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: they're not waking up like I remember that time and she,

794
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, had me in a toilet. You know what

795
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. So I just say the birth traumas

796
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: don't count for anyone that's like, well, I have that

797
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: one time when my mom gave birth. Back to your story,

798
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: so you're you're on this journey. You you you reach

799
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: out to an old partner from Tony Robbins or friend

800
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: or so affiliate from Tony Robbins, and you get a

801
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: publishing deal.

802
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Yes, so my first book gets published. It does very well.

803
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 2: It opens up the space for me to start speaking.

804
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: So I started speaking at like conferences events, and then

805
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: that like kind of opens something for me because I'm like, wait,

806
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: I do have a voice. I am supposed to be

807
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 2: like sharing messages that matter to people around the world.

808
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: And so that opened because I really I consider myself like, yes,

809
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: I have these titles like executive, producer, actress, author, I

810
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: consider myself a highly effective communicator.

811
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: So now that you find out your great speaker and

812
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: you're doing these speaking speaking gigs, your book is top selling,

813
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: what's the next play after that?

814
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: It's to continue to grow.

815
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, You've tapped into something, and now how

816
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: do we go deeper with it? How do we continue

817
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: not only the healing journey, but your expansion journey of

818
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: using your gifts and using your voice. And I've always

819
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: been a real big proponent of like Napoleon Hill, like

820
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: thinking Girl Rich has been a guide post in my

821
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: life and utilizing the six Steps to Riches that are

822
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: in that book, utilizing those principles of success and helping

823
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: to just reformulate how I see the world and how

824
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: I operate in the world. And I decided like, Okay,

825
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: how can I take these principles and go even deeper

826
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: with them, so I decided to do so. The Napoleon

827
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: Hill Foundation offers a certification program that allows you to

828
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: become a Napoleon Hill.

829
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: Do you have to pay into it too? Oh my gosh, Okay.

830
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: Everything takes.

831
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: And well because the training is it takes about three

832
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: years to go through the training program and there was.

833
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 1: No expedated way. I'm sure if there was, you would

834
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: have skipped it.

835
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: Girl.

836
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: So you did the three years.

837
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: So it really is a lifelong thing. But no, I

838
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: don't even think it took me three years. It didn't

839
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: take a full three years because I did find ways

840
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: to like just hammer out and get through each of

841
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: the steps. So there's a home study program that you do,

842
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: there isn't in person, you know, leadership course that you do,

843
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: and then you do a certa service project so your

844
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: way of being able to give back through those principles.

845
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: And while we were at the leadership certification in person,

846
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: we were in Frenchley, Indiana, which is the home of

847
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: Napoleon Hill, and our entire class was given the assignment

848
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: to write a one page children's story based upon one

849
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: of the principles that was assigned. So we all got

850
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: a little slip of paper with just a number on it.

851
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: So mine had the number ten. I was like ten.

852
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: Perfect, that's enthusiasm. I was like, that's my favorite principle.

853
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: I was like Bet.

854
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: And so we had to pick a writing partner, and

855
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: so I scanned the room and the lady who I

856
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: had rode in on the shuttle from the airport with

857
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: you know, she was available, Diane, and so I was

858
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: like cool, like Dian. So we had an hour during

859
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: our lunch break. We go up to my room and

860
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: so we're thinking, okay, well, what kind of story can

861
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: we write about enthusiasm? And then this story just starts

862
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: coming out, and it starts coming out in this rhymed pattern.

863
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: So it was like okay, at right, and I was

864
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: like Bet, like, let's let's go with it. So we

865
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: write this story and it was called the Town of

866
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: Lost and Found. We come back to the class and

867
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: like all the groups start going up presenting their story,

868
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: we get up. We present our story and the reaction

869
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: in the room was overwhelming, and we both looked at

870
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: each other and we was like, I think we got

871
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: something here. We go sit down. Other groups get up

872
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: and another group gets up and they do a story

873
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: on enthusiasm, and I was like, that was a different story.

874
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: But I'm like, there was only one principle as signed

875
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: for groups of how is that impossible? And so I

876
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: go back. I went into my little notebook. I pulled

877
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: out the little ten. I go look down the list

878
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: of principles. Ten is not enthusiasm. No, ten is accurate.

879
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: Thank you.

880
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

881
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: But I knew in that moment that God the universe

882
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: put a blinder over my eyes to see what I

883
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: needed to see in that moment.

884
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: Got it.

885
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: Got it because after the class was over, the executive

886
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: director of the Napoleon Hill Foundation and her assistant came

887
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: over to us and was like, we loved what you

888
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: all did with that story. And they were like, we

889
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: don't know where this would go or what would happen,

890
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: but we would love for you to do that for

891
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: all seventeen of the principles.

892
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Wow. And so we were like, yes, I had always talk.

893
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: Did you say yes how much or no, I get

894
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: my red my money back? You didn't say that. I

895
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: was just so honored.

896
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: And also because it was a dream come true and

897
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: why I had I used to say this all the time.

898
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: We should talk about the power of your words. I

899
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: used to always tell people. I was like, I am

900
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: the love child of Oprah Winfrey and Napoleon Hill. I

901
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: was like, that's my real mom and dad.

902
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I hope your parents don't listen to this,

903
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: but wait backcheck.

904
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: So you end up publishing which I bought the book.

905
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: The name of the book called The Amazing Advantes of

906
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 2: Oliver Hill.

907
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: Oliver I just bought that book for my daughter is

908
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: pretty pretty amazing books. Book I did call you. This

909
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: is what actually, you know, got us to talking was

910
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: this particular book. And the first thing I asked you

911
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: was like, well, before we get into what I asked you,

912
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: let's go back to the money stance, because we got

913
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: to talk it. So you you, you and Diane, you

914
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: write this book. You write it book, you give it

915
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: to Napoleon Hills.

916
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: Still and I still know how much foundations And we

917
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: ended up giving it to them and giving the rights

918
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: of the book over to them so that all the

919
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: proceeds that come from the cell of that book go

920
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: back to the Napoleon Hill Foundation, and that became our

921
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: service project to them. There's more power in giving than receiving.

922
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: I knew that this was a legacy.

923
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: What does Napoleon Hill's Foundation do again?

924
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: Key?

925
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: So they that book was very impressive. That book was

926
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: very good. And then I told you the only and

927
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: now I guess I'll say it, especially after knowing that

928
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: you gave away the rights. She didn't just give it

929
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: to them, she gave away all the rights. Okay, I

930
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: have like, okay, that book selld how many a lot?

931
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: Right?

932
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you're still comfortable with giving okay because

933
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: picture there is a bigger picture. So I did get

934
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: the book and the only thing that deterred me. And

935
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm not really a race I don't know if I'm

936
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: not really a race person, but uh, but I guess

937
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: for the sake of this, I'm gonna say I am.

938
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: It was a very impactful book when you think of

939
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: think and grow rich. I like to assume that all

940
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: black people have read this book. But I actually had

941
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: a conversation with a friend the other day and he said,

942
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: not all black read. Black people read that book. It

943
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: was like the book the people that are you know,

944
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: that are driven to read or whatever you have read

945
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: that book. Don't don't blanket it, but that book is

946
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: a powerful book. I know it was a powerful book

947
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: in my life. The question I have is, now you

948
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: have this book and it definitely translates very well. I

949
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: read my daughter's books, and I am one of those

950
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: people that will buy books and go I can't believe

951
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: I bought this book, like either the either it's too

952
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: wordy or the pictures aren't right, or then you have

953
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: not enough words and you know so. And definitely, when

954
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: it comes to children's book, a book snob like as

955
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: and it's weird. It's only with children's books. It's like

956
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: she has shoves at home, and I will order these

957
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: books and buy it off the title. Now I like

958
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: to skim them and see, like what the pictures are.

959
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: Knowing that you had was the author one made me

960
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: buy it. But the first thing I asked you was like,

961
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how a book of this much

962
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: powered impact had It looked like there was a bunch

963
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: of white kids on the cover, and I felt like,

964
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, a little black and brown kids. You know

965
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: you want to read them a book and as I

966
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: get older, that reflects them. So you know, that was

967
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: the first question I asked you. And you could go

968
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: ahead and share your response because just in case anyone

969
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: else wants to buy the book for their kids, they

970
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: not absolutely shocked, but go ahead.

971
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: And so in the process of writing, we were sending

972
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: the stories over to the Foundation, and then they hired

973
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: the illustrator to you know, illustrate it, which happened to

974
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: be a Korean, you know, young lady out of Korea

975
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: who literally only spoke Korean, so everything had to be

976
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: translated into Korean for her. And I had written out

977
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: very specific instructions on like the diversity I wanted to

978
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: see in this in this book, and when we got

979
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: back the first sets of illustrations, they were literally absolutely

980
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: no kids of color, and I was like, no.

981
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: You had already signed the rights over before the project

982
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: or just trying to get it, just trying to get

983
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: it right. Okay, Okay. The name of the book is

984
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: The Adventures of the Amazing Adventures of Oliver Hill. So

985
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: if you have young kids, definitely check out the book.

986
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: You know, sorry to harp on this one part, because

987
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: this is what caught my attention with you, you know,

988
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: and it caught my attention as well, and so I

989
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: was like I reached back out to the Foundation.

990
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: I was like cause they were so excited. They were like,

991
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 2: these illustrations are so beautiful, and so it's interesting how

992
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: certain lenses like don't even see like the divide, don't

993
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: even see that. Wait, there's an issue here because we're

994
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: lacking some diversity. And so I brought that to their

995
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: attention and I was ready to if they weren't going

996
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: to do anything about it, to walk away, and so

997
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: I reached out. I brought my concerns and I'm like,

998
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: I cannot be an author of color and they're not

999
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: be not one person of color now, one little black girl,

1000
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 2: not one in this entire book, of all these characters

1001
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: that we've created.

1002
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: I was like, this is not okay. And the executive

1003
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: director she agreed with me.

1004
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: She was like no, like and we didn't even like

1005
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't yeah, it was like literally an oversight. We

1006
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: just saw like these beautiful illustrations, was like, wow, this

1007
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: is amazing. And so they sent back instruction to the

1008
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: illustrator and then Julia, she is the character that they

1009
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 2: you know, re had redone and made a character of color.

1010
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: And I still was like I wanted more and I

1011
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: felt like it deserved to have more. And even in

1012
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: that point or stage of my life. And again, the

1013
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: how you do anything is how you do everything. Like

1014
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: I settled, and I still had not gotten to my

1015
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: full power yet in owning my voice yet, but I

1016
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: was grateful to have had enough healing at least stand.

1017
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: Up the transparency in that hole. What you just said

1018
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: is crazy, Like that's appreciated because I don't think we openly,

1019
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: even as successful as we are acknowledged, Like maybe at

1020
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: this point, maybe I did settle or what have you.

1021
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie if the roles, if I was

1022
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: in your shoes, I definitely would have done exactly what

1023
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: you said. Probably I don't know about the giving up

1024
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: the rights or anything. I don't know. I don't know

1025
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: if I'm that much of a gift giver because the

1026
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: book was really good, is really good, I did skim through.

1027
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to, you know, right now, my daughter's into

1028
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: The Monster Book right now, which is the most annoying

1029
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: book in my life, but trying to get her to

1030
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: sit down and read it. But I did, of course

1031
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: read it as an adult, and I was like, this

1032
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: is a great book. I definitely want to get it

1033
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: from my friend's kids. And I'm glad that like you

1034
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: even like once you said that to me over the phone.

1035
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, you know what you think

1036
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: about coming on eating while broke, But no, I'm glad

1037
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: hear that story. So so just to be clear, Napoleon Hill's Foundation, yes,

1038
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: not trying to get into it. So they got all

1039
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: the proceeds. Diane didn't get anything. Nobody got you guys,

1040
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: just okay, what does the Napoleon Hill do Foundation do for?

1041
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: For? Where does that money go? So the Napoleon Hill

1042
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: Foundation is all about perpetuating and continuing to put Napoleon

1043
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: Hill's principles out into the world. So they do a

1044
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 2: lot of programs in the community. So this book went

1045
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 2: into schools. It became part of the Napoleon Hill scholars

1046
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: program and universities where they would use that book and

1047
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 2: then go into schools with it. They use it like

1048
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 2: in library programs, and so it's used in some very

1049
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: like charitable and giving ways. Yes, they make proceeds, you know,

1050
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: when the book sells online or through their website or

1051
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: at events and things of that nature, but all of

1052
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: that too goes back into programming that they do for

1053
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: the community.

1054
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Alone. Foundation that the habit of malone foundation is what

1055
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: is impacting are you today?

1056
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: Yes?

1057
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: And you know what, even that whole experience, I just

1058
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: hope that even with that whole experience, maybe there could

1059
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 1: be just a have a habl of malone black version

1060
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: or minority version.

1061
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: Oh you let me tell you, let me do you know?

1062
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: Because what that sparked in me? Because here's the thing.

1063
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: Life happens for us, not to us. I feel like

1064
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: even that experience, it fulfilled a part of a dream

1065
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: of being a part of a legacy in Napoleon that

1066
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: has impacted my life, and now I get to be

1067
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: a part of that legacy to help the next generation.

1068
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,479
Speaker 2: It also sparked within me a seed of you. You've

1069
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: been able to do this for them. It's time for

1070
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: you to do it because you have the skill set,

1071
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: you have the knowledge, You have things to share and

1072
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: stories to share that can be put into a form

1073
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: for children to be able to ingest. And you can.

1074
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: But I wasn't ready at that time, but I can

1075
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: with the view to diversity that I have in mind,

1076
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: with the view to inclusivity that I want to see

1077
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: in the world in books and making sure that children

1078
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: feel like, wow, this is for me I can create

1079
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: that now.

1080
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm looking forward to it and

1081
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: I definitely, you know, would like to see the proceeds

1082
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: go to right. You know, I think what you did

1083
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: was great. I mean knowledge is knowledge. I mean when

1084
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: Think and Grow Rich came out, I don't think anybody

1085
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: was looking at the race of Napoleon Hell at the time, right,

1086
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: or rich Dad, Poor Dad? Nobody.

1087
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: There's so many other versions of that book that have

1088
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: come out since. Thinking We're Rich Ad Black Choice by

1089
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: Dennis kimbro He partnered with the foundation thinking did he

1090
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: get to.

1091
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: Keep Well, when you say partner with the foundation, do

1092
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: you know if he got to keep.

1093
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Speaker 3: Any of his?

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Speaker 2: Don't?

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00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what their deals are? Like investigator, how

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00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: many how many people from Napoleon Hill Graduation just turned

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00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: around and gave back all their rights. I'm going to

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00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: open up full.

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Speaker 2: On investigation now, because like Sharon lecter So, she did

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Speaker 2: Thinking Girl Rich for Women, she also did Three Feet

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00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: from Gold, which is through the Napoleon Hill Foundation.

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Speaker 1: I doubt, I doubt she gave up all of her

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00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: She's not black though. What about the Thinking gro richni

1104
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: is kim Broke?

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: Probably not?

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00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: And there's Thinking gir richal Latino choice, there's thinking like

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: there's so many now versions of thinking Girl Rich that

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00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: have been updated to have examples of people like of

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: our generation of time, and that are geared towards specific,

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00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: diverse audiences that will speak in terms that resonate with them.

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00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: Because I always suggest to people the original one first

1112
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: and then read one of the course alternative versions, because

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00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: it'll give you the foundation of like where it was

1114
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: based from. Because Napoleon Hill he went and interviewed over

1115
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: five hundred of the most successful people of his time,

1116
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: from Thomas Edison to Henry Ford to President Woodrow Wilson

1117
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: and President Roosevelt to find out Andrew Carnegie to find

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00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: out what they did different from everybody else that made

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00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: them successful and was able to boil that down to

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Speaker 2: seventeen principles that if you apply those principles, you will

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Speaker 2: be successful.

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Speaker 1: Period. So and just a side note, since we're talking

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Speaker 1: about books, you do a book. I don't know if

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00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: you've ever read it, but it's one of my favorite books.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of my favorites that are like my

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Speaker 1: go to. But have you read Outwitting the Double Heck, yes,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that is from Napoleon Hill, right, that

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00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: book was a phenomenal. I think people don't talk about

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00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: that book enough.

1130
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: That conversation that he had, I thought that was so brilliant.

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00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: He so his family.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I space that was from Napoleon. Yeah, okay,

1133
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: I guess the Napoleon and Hell Foundation ain't that bad? Right? Well,

1134
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you get unlimited membership to like

1135
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: get more classes for free? Oh I'm a part of

1136
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: the okay family, so you get free no more pain? No?

1137
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: Okay cool? Do you get a friends of family? Uh?

1138
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: And for free?

1139
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: Well if they don't do like the events that the

1140
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 2: foundation does are more like fundraiser events anyways, So it's

1141
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: not but for the schooling.

1142
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: Oh, the certification program, it's not a lot.

1143
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: Like the certification program is like really inexpensive, like what

1144
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: probably less than a thousand dollars.

1145
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, so okay, okay, so you go

1146
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: on after this. I just want to know that you

1147
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: get a friends and family, you know, like I have

1148
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: girlfriends that could be their friends and family. Uh, Marriott

1149
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: discounts and like it. You know, I just want to

1150
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: know if you get a friends of family because you

1151
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: because I know that book sold a lot. That book

1152
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: sold a lot and it had a huge has a

1153
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: huge impact. So after this book goes on to be

1154
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: a best seller, you say, well, heck man, I got

1155
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: to put out on another book, right.

1156
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: And I didn't put out another book. It's interesting about me.

1157
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: I do what I feel called at a time that

1158
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: I feel called to it. And so when I feel

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01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: called to share a message or to do a specific

1160
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: thing or create a certain thing, then that's when I

1161
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 2: do it. Even if it's like no, now the top

1162
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: you got to like create this and do that. Unless

1163
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: it's an internal calling, it ain't happening. Spoken like a

1164
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: true entrepreneur. So how are you surviving this whole time

1165
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: while you're you know, you giving away money. I love

1166
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: it because I was still doing exact speaking engagements. So

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: my first book was still selling. I was still speaking

1168
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: on that, on those topics, and now it also opened

1169
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: up speaking engagements for those principles of success and like

1170
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: speaking on thinking grown, yeah, thinking you're rich topics, so

1171
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Speaker 2: to corporations and to schools and things of that nature.

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01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: So I get paid, you know, to go out and

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01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: do those things. I wasn't making money from the book. Yeah,

1174
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: those posts were going to the foundation. There was fruits

1175
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: to the book, yes, okay. And that's the thing that

1176
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: people don't realize. It's like, even for the most part,

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01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: your money isn't going to really be made from the product.

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01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: It's from all the ancillary things around the product.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny because this conversation comes up a lot lately,

1180
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: but eating while broke but ancillary. So you made money

1181
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: off the ancillaries in addition to the book, and you're

1182
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: skating through life. What's your next BIG's play? Like are

1183
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: you starting to just act more? Or can you take

1184
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: me there? Yeah?

1185
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Speaker 2: And so it was interesting. So I'm doing a lot

1186
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 2: of speeches. Goal Cast, which is an online motivational platform.

1187
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: They do these like how do you say, like condensed

1188
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: motivational videos and you have people like Tony Robbins, Oprah

1189
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 2: Winfrey like and they're viral videos that they create. And

1190
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: so they picked up one of my speeches and then

1191
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: did a gold Cast video, so it almost becomes like

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Speaker 2: a little Ted talk and that thing. It went viral

1193
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: and it was about following your childhood dreams, and so

1194
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: many people started reaching out like wow, this really motivated

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01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: me to like go after like I always wanted to

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Speaker 2: be a nurse, and like I finally just went ahead

1197
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: and like, you know, I'm going to nursing school now,

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Speaker 2: or like all these things, and I'm just like something

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Speaker 2: clicked inside of me. And I was like, you're out

1200
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: here sharing all these principles telling people to go after

1201
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: their dreams, do these things. But there's a dream that

1202
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: you have that you still haven't fully pursued yet. How

1203
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: are you gonna sit there and tell if people do

1204
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: something that you still need to do? And I was like, ooh,

1205
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: so I told you. I started college when I was sixteen.

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01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: My first career path, or the first path I was

1207
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: going to go down, was to become a lawyer. So

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01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: when I was in high school, I was a part

1209
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: of a junior league program where we used to try

1210
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: real cases in court, and so the defendants were already

1211
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: found guilty of their crimes, but we just already sentencing

1212
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: in front of the judge. And I loved it. So

1213
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: I was going to become a lawyer. And then right

1214
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: when I was having to make my decision of you

1215
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: know what I was going to study in school, I

1216
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: was like I can go to law school become a lawyer,

1217
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: or I could just play one on TV. I was like,

1218
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: it's probably way more fun. So I went the dramatic

1219
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: arts communication to the entertainment route. So I'm like, yes,

1220
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: you have done all these other things on television, play cops,

1221
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: like all this stuff, but you have never played a

1222
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: lawyer on television and you literally changed the trajectory of

1223
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: your life to fulfill this dream that you've not done.

1224
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, it's time. It's time for

1225
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: me to practice when I am preaching. I literally made

1226
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: a decision that day and I was like, I'm moving

1227
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: to California to more fully pursue my acting career and

1228
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to play a lawyer on television.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

1230
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: I took Napoleon Hills, Think and Grow rich in those

1231
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: six Steps to Richest formula, and I created a plan

1232
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: for myself. I reached out to an acting coach that

1233
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: I had out here, like from years ago, and I

1234
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: was like, when is your next intensive or your next

1235
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: course starting up? Like when is that happening? She told

1236
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: me it was going to be June twenty ninth. This

1237
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: was of twenty nineteen. I said, Bet I'll be there

1238
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: by June twenty six. This was fifty one days between

1239
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: the day I called her and then June twenty six.

1240
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: So I took that formula. I created my plan. June

1241
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: twenty six, I moved out to California and I literally

1242
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: like hit the ground running. Within two years of being here.

1243
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: I booked a role as a lawyer on HBOS and

1244
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 2: Secure and it was just like and I've done like

1245
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: a lot, like in the commercial world. I mean, I've

1246
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: had like four Super Bowl commercials constant, even during the pandemic.

1247
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: Like I felt like super blessed because I was still

1248
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: able to because I had production background, because a lot

1249
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 2: of the commercials you saw during that time were like

1250
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: zoom commercials or like cell phone you know type of things.

1251
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: Because content still had to be created even though we

1252
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: couldn't get together to do it.

1253
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: I thrived in that time.

1254
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: Not only did I I stayed booked and busy, I

1255
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: also was able to take a three month cross country

1256
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: road trip because I was like, I have to keep

1257
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 2: looking at these four walls.

1258
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: I could look at any four walls I want to.

1259
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: And I literally traveled across the country still working and

1260
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: had the most tremendous experience, and the career has only

1261
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: continued to just like escalate and escalate, and more and

1262
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: more things came and I got to the point I

1263
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: was like, I really only have three more specific acting goals,

1264
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: So then what is next? What's the next iteration? And

1265
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: it's like to be able to be in a position

1266
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: to create opportunities, to be able to tell the stories

1267
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: I want to tell and open the doors for other

1268
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: people to do what they do very well. Like I

1269
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: come from a management background, I come from a business background,

1270
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: so I'm just like, executive producing is very much the

1271
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: business of it all, and so it just it felt

1272
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 2: like the right step and the move to move forward

1273
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: in this industry. So I was like, outside of those

1274
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: like three specific acting goals, I'm just like, it's time

1275
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: for me to help more stories get told. And so

1276
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: that's what I've gotten the opportunity to do. Like we're

1277
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: actually in pre production right now on a film and

1278
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm executive producing and in the casting process.

1279
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Speaker 1: Of because good lord, that is a whole nother.

1280
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: And like I've you know, helped her to invest money

1281
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: in other projects, and I'm just like, there's nothing that

1282
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: you cannot accomplish if you set your mind to it.

1283
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: I've also published another book. So during the pandemic, I

1284
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: finally because the universe was like, oh, you're saying you're

1285
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: so busy that you can't write this book that you've

1286
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: been knowing you're supposed to write and this message you're

1287
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: supposed to share. So now let me put the universe

1288
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: on pause so that you have nothing but time to

1289
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: sit here and write this book. And so that was

1290
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: the one that came out in twenty twenty twenty one,

1291
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: which was Rewriting a New History, a spiritual path to

1292
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 2: audacious authenticity and healing, which goes into because there's many

1293
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 2: forms and modalities for healing, but this one goes very

1294
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 2: deeply into ayahuasca. And so I'm just I'm just super grateful,

1295
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 2: like just for this life and how it continues to

1296
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: unfold and all that I get to keep learning because

1297
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm still learning, I'm still growing.

1298
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're definitely one that's hungry to learn and grow.

1299
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: I'd say that you definitely put a lot of focus

1300
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: on that, and I can appreciate that, even though I

1301
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: do focus a lot more on money, but yeah, I

1302
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: can appreciate that there was that's a lot. So what

1303
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: advice would you give to anyone coming up behind you,

1304
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: whether they're pursuing acting, publishing, for any any dream. And

1305
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Speaker 1: can you just quickly before you get out, just name

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Speaker 1: the six principles. Oh six stepsis, Yeah, just name them.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to explain them.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's to determine the amount of money that you want,

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Speaker 2: like the specific amount of money that you want. Determine

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Speaker 2: the date by which you want to attain that money.

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Speaker 2: The third step is to determine what you're willing to

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Speaker 2: get give in order to receive that money. Then you

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Speaker 2: write out a written statement of your plan to attain

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Speaker 2: the money. And then the fifth one is that all

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Speaker 2: morning and night you will recite that out loud with feeling,

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Speaker 2: with belief that that is already attained.

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Speaker 3: I'm missing a step. You create the goal you Oh,

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Speaker 3: you write it. Yeah, you get to write it down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you create the money goal that you want.

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Speaker 1: To say the sixth steps.

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Speaker 2: You will determine the amount of money that you want,

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Speaker 2: specific a specific dollar amount. You will determine the date

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Speaker 2: by which you want that amount of money. Then you

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Speaker 2: will write that down into a written statement. You will

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Speaker 2: determine what you will give in order to receive that money,

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Speaker 2: and then you will take that written statement and you

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Speaker 2: will say that out loud with feeling and belief in

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Speaker 2: the morning, when you wake up, and before you go

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Speaker 2: to bed at night. And that is to be able

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Speaker 2: to solidify that within yourself and draw that to yourself

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Speaker 2: and allow that to flow through.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, I like that. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the that's right. There is the advice to be honest. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta determine what you want.

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Speaker 1: You gotta determine. I think I seen Oprah say that

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Speaker 1: on some clip, saying, like a lot of people just

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Speaker 1: don't know what they want. And you know what, sometimes

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Speaker 1: when I'm very frustrated or I don't know what to do,

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Speaker 1: my friends will say, you know what, it sounds to

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Speaker 1: me like you don't know what you want, So why

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Speaker 1: don't you figure it out what it is you want?

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Speaker 1: Have that conversation with yourself, give us the answer. We're

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Speaker 1: not going to judge you, and we could proceed. But

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Speaker 1: until you know what you want then then yeah. So

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Speaker 1: and in that I was like, oh, okay, well that's

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Speaker 1: a good question. And now now I say it, what

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Speaker 1: do you want. Oh, I know what I want, and

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Speaker 1: I know that by me knowing what I want, I

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Speaker 1: also indirectly know what I don't want.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing. When you ask people, for the

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Speaker 2: most part, what do you want, they will immediately go

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Speaker 2: to what they don't want because it's easier for their

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Speaker 2: mind to grasp or to articulate or I don't want

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Speaker 2: it to be like this, and I don't want that,

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Speaker 2: and I don't want it to be like this. But then,

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Speaker 2: because that's what you're giving energy to, that's what you're

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Speaker 2: giving focus to, that's what you're literally drawing in. You

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Speaker 2: are magnetizing the thing that you don't want because that's

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Speaker 2: what you're focused on. If you could literally let that

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Speaker 2: go and solely focus on what you want, it has

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Speaker 2: no choice but to come to you.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Uh, I agree with that. And guys,

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Speaker 1: if you're hungry and you're broke, feel free to get

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Speaker 1: some instant grits, some jilo penos, and some cashiers, because

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Speaker 1: I assure you that is a fulfilling meal and we

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Speaker 1: after we close out, me and Havala will be eating

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Speaker 1: that for lunch. Thank y'all all for tuning in on

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Speaker 1: another episode of Eating While Broke