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Speaker 1: Welcome to America's how Mr garbutcha tear down this wall.

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Speaker 1: Either you're with us or you were with the terrorists.

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Speaker 1: If you got healthcare already, then you can keep your plan.

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Speaker 1: If you're satisfied with Trump is not president of the

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Speaker 1: United States, take it to a bank. Together, we will

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Speaker 1: make America great again. We'll never sharender. It's what you've

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Speaker 1: been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with America now

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Speaker 1: four nine hundred. Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred

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Speaker 1: to eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice. Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to a freestyle Friday here in the Freedom Hut.

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Speaker 1: And what a day. Usually you don't get this kind

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Speaker 1: to shut down on a Friday. I used to live

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Speaker 1: in d C. It's amazing how many people in the

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Speaker 1: government work a four day We're really a three and

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Speaker 1: a half day week. But the American Healthcare Bill is well,

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Speaker 1: if not dead, it is certainly on hold. There may

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Speaker 1: be there may be some new version of this that

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Speaker 1: comes out. I had a feeling this was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about this in detail from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: and at the very last minute, Paul Ryan, at reportedly

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Speaker 1: the behest of President Trump, pulled it said, we're not

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Speaker 1: even gonna put this forward. We don't want the additional

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Speaker 1: embarrassment of putting this to a vote in losing, so

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Speaker 1: let's just not do this. So this is a belly

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Speaker 1: is not good. It's not the end of the world,

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Speaker 1: to be sure, but it's not particularly in cur uraging.

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Speaker 1: And given the timeline here that the GOP has had

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Speaker 1: seven years to figure this out, one has to look

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Speaker 1: at it and say that it's reminiscent of the college

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Speaker 1: student who at the very end of the semester shows

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Speaker 1: up when everyone's handing in their turn paper and says,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have enough time. Well you had seven years, bro,

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Speaker 1: You've had a lot of time. You've had all the time.

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Speaker 1: When would think in the world to come up with

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Speaker 1: a bill that would get through the House voted sixty times,

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Speaker 1: about over fifty to repeal Obamacare. Dozens and dozens of votes. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it was all so clear, wasn't it vote for us.

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Speaker 1: We'll get rid of Obamacare. Obamacare is terrible. Obamacare is

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Speaker 1: a constitution destroying legal monstrosity. You can't allow this thing

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Speaker 1: to continue one day more. Now it's it's going to

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Speaker 1: continue for some days more. That's quite a shift, Isn't

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Speaker 1: it quite a change? To be sure? All we got

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Speaker 1: Paul Ryan, we got Trump, and yes, even Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: weighing in on this whole situation. Let's let's start with Ryan,

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Speaker 1: who was willing to say that this was not this

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Speaker 1: was not great. Moving from an opposition party to a

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Speaker 1: governing party comes with growing pains, and well, we're feeling

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Speaker 1: those growing pains today. We came really close today, but

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Speaker 1: we came up short. I spoke to the President just

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Speaker 1: a little while ago, and I told him that the

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Speaker 1: best thing I think to do is to pull this bill,

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Speaker 1: and he agreed with that decision. I will not sugarcoat this.

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Speaker 1: This is a disappointing day for us. Doing big things

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Speaker 1: is hard, all of us, all of us, myself included.

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Speaker 1: We will need time to reflect on how we got

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Speaker 1: to this moment, what we could have done to do

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Speaker 1: it better. But ultimately, this all kind of comes down

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Speaker 1: to a choice. Are all of us willing to give

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Speaker 1: a little to get something done? All we're willing to

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Speaker 1: say yes to the good, to the very good, even

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Speaker 1: if it's not the perfect. Now, the Democrats promised transformation

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Speaker 1: on healthcare and gave us devastation. The Republicans have been

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It looks like nothing. Right now we're

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Speaker 1: or disingenuousness maybe a better way to put it. Because

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Speaker 1: we've been told that repeal was urgent, Now we're told

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Speaker 1: that it can wait. We've been told that Obamacare had

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Speaker 1: to be dealt with first before taxes. Now we're told

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Speaker 1: that we can just move on to taxes. Well, which

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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House saying that Trump gave his all.

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Speaker 1: The President gave his all in this effort. He did

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Speaker 1: everything he possibly could to help people see the opportunity

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Speaker 1: that we have with this bill. He's really been fantastic. Still,

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Speaker 1: for sure, uh Trump. I think we'll move back to

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Speaker 1: some of the issues that are even more popular and

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Speaker 1: been posturing on these issues for years. They saw the

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Speaker 1: rising sentiment of conservatism and limited government that the Tea

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Speaker 1: limited government, and they are going to force people, are

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Speaker 1: go instead of saddling future generations with that. All of

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Speaker 1: this that we've been told. Now we see there in

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Speaker 1: least some of them don't. And by the way, I

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Speaker 1: with a bill that wouldn't have been a repeal of Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: that wouldn't have made this free market and market based. Sure,

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Speaker 1: it would have been an incremental improvement, but what we

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Speaker 1: That was either going to be better and we would

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Speaker 1: I don't know, not clear. We're just going to be

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Speaker 1: haggling over the price tag. They want to spend too

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Speaker 1: and we're supposed to stand aside and just say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: for it. I remembined. Paul Ryan was saying, we have

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Speaker 1: I never said repeal it and replace it within sixty

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Speaker 1: four days. I have a long time, but I want

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Speaker 1: to have a great healthcare bill and plan and we will.

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Speaker 1: It will happen, and it won't be in the very

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Speaker 1: even better bill. I think this was a very good bill.

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Speaker 1: I think it will be even better. And they've got

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Speaker 1: two ways about it. But it is not the end

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Speaker 1: I don't know that everyone is committed to seizing this

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Speaker 1: saying that today was a victory for all Americans from

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Speaker 1: risk of losing their health insurance. The wait Medicaid is

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Speaker 1: not health insurance, Medicaid healthcare welfare. It's it's you. You

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Speaker 1: There's there's no insurance aspect to it. Really, you're not

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Speaker 1: for a tax reform, which I've always like. Okay, tax reform,

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Speaker 1: corporate tax reform. You're not gonna necessarily see your individual

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Speaker 1: And I still think they're inherent flaws in a system

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Speaker 1: that is a progressive taxation on income and not on wealth.

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Speaker 1: But that's perhaps a longer discussion for another time. But

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Speaker 1: covers up immigrant crimes. I mean they treat immigrants as

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Speaker 1: if they're African Americans, and we owe them because of

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Speaker 1: the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. And this is

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Speaker 1: when it comes to immigration. We don't owe people living

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Speaker 1: someplace else anything. We didn't do anything to them. If anything,

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Speaker 1: we're rushing in whenever they have an earthquake, hurricane, war lords,

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Speaker 1: we're sending you know, cheese packets over um. Well, now,

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Speaker 1: thank for some federal judges. They have a constitutional right.

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Speaker 1: It seems to challenge the ability to come into the country,

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Speaker 1: which is one of the crazier things that I think

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Speaker 1: any of us have seen in a long time. But

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Speaker 1: can I just ask you, and this is one of

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Speaker 1: those whereas I was reading this and where where's and

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Speaker 1: would be fun if she could respond to this in

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Speaker 1: National Review. I have many friends who right there, they

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Speaker 1: do some great stuff. But a National Review of Mona

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Speaker 1: Sharon was writing about this case earlier. You know, this

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Speaker 1: case in Maryland, and she writes, as the survey by

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Speaker 1: the Cato Institute shows immigrants, both legal and illegal, are

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Speaker 1: less likely to be incarcerated than native born Americans. Can

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Speaker 1: I where's the hyperlink? And and CATO is an open

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Speaker 1: border's outfit, as I've gotten into argument with them before.

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Speaker 1: But can I see this data? I want to see?

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Speaker 1: The data doesn't exist. No, And in fact, even the

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Speaker 1: data that does exist UM gives the lie to that,

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Speaker 1: but not as spectacularly as I think the truth would UM.

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Speaker 1: Because what the government reports do is, for example, the

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Speaker 1: g a O just guesses on whether you're an immigrants

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Speaker 1: or not, UM, whether you're illegal or not? Um. FBI

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Speaker 1: relies on self report. UM. Okay, criminal, would you mind

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Speaker 1: telling us if you're if you're an immigrant and did

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Speaker 1: you already break the law by entering our country illegally?

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Speaker 1: But even those reports UM way underestimating how many immigrants

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Speaker 1: are arrested are in prison. Um And put a pin

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Speaker 1: in that for a second. Um, even those reports show

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Speaker 1: that that immigrants are committing crime and are arrested are

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Speaker 1: in prison way above their percentage in the population. As

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Speaker 1: for the number of immigrants in prison, what I just

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Speaker 1: said to put opinion. One thing to bear in mind,

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Speaker 1: and the last number of fugitives from justice best number

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Speaker 1: we're born elsewhere. For the obvious reason, they commit a

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Speaker 1: horrible crime, the costs are looking for them. They run

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Speaker 1: across the border to get home. Right. So that's the

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Speaker 1: problem with the immigrant crime. At least, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're an American, it's a little harder to hop on

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Speaker 1: a plane, you know, to the Caribbean or or to yourself.

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Speaker 1: Go go, try to hide out in Mexico. We eventually

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Speaker 1: will cast catch most American criminals, at least in in

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Speaker 1: some jurisdictions. Maybe not Chicago, um, but but not That's

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Speaker 1: that's another problem with with immigrants committing crimes. They have

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Speaker 1: an easy out and completely escape justice. It just seems

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Speaker 1: counterintuitive as well that somebody who is an illegal alien

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Speaker 1: by nature of their situation is is breaking the law,

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Speaker 1: that they would be less likely to commit crimes than

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Speaker 1: those who are are a native warded. Once again, the

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Speaker 1: the pro immigration lobby always has this this talking point

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Speaker 1: somehow always better, harder working than all of us who

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Speaker 1: are here and we don't. We're not allowed to take

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Speaker 1: offense to that. I actually do take offense to that

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Speaker 1: doing the jobs Americans won't do because we're so lazy,

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Speaker 1: which is why we have this country that's so rich

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Speaker 1: and powerful somehow. But I digress. Yeah, no, absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: And um one other things to keep in mind. Please

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Speaker 1: notice that it's my side of this debate that's saying,

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Speaker 1: could we get the numbers? How about the government count

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Speaker 1: the numbers. It's their side of the debate that doesn't

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Speaker 1: want that count being made. Yeah. I also would urge

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Speaker 1: anybody who lives in a major sanctuary state take a

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Speaker 1: look at the ten, you know, take a look at

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Speaker 1: like the ten most wanted by the FBI or the

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Speaker 1: d e A. And you know, oh yeah, l A

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Speaker 1: is hilarious. I'm I use that in my book. I'm

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Speaker 1: always asking people to post it. Look up Google right

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Speaker 1: now Los Angeles most wanted and try to find an American.

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile, as I was saying, I was reading an

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Speaker 1: astroview that you know, seven percent of the population is

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Speaker 1: non citizens, only five for sound of the prison population.

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Speaker 1: I would really like to see where they're getting those numbers.

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Speaker 1: And also as you know, they don't have the full

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Speaker 1: numbers on how many legals are even here. But I digress.

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Speaker 1: It's even by the numbers that again way underestimate the number.

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Speaker 1: It's about four and born. Yeah, I I saw this

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Speaker 1: and I was like, this is just not right. But again,

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Speaker 1: even even on on the right, there are people that

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Speaker 1: are very invested in the narrative that even illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: are committing less crime than native born I just I

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Speaker 1: hear that all the time. I don't I don't buy it,

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Speaker 1: but and I want to just push back to or

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Speaker 1: go back to health care for a second. Here, Uh

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Speaker 1: what hap what happens now? And we're being told that

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Speaker 1: they're going to go on to taxes, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Trump's tax plan is better, but it's not. It's also

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Speaker 1: not amazing. It doesn't make it's not flat tax, it's

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Speaker 1: not fair tax. It's a a big corporate tax break,

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Speaker 1: which would be good for the economy. But where does

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Speaker 1: health care what? He's really gonna let it burn itself down?

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Speaker 1: As that's that's what I saw today. He's saying that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna let Obamacare fail for a while. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's a buck Sometimes I think I'm the last is

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Speaker 1: in America who remembers how the free market works, which

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Speaker 1: is weird because every other product we buy we buy

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Speaker 1: on the free market. And listening to these Republicans, at

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Speaker 1: least some of the Republicans, some are great, not enough

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Speaker 1: of them, UM talk this week and looking at their

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Speaker 1: bill where they're setting premiums and we're working on the

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Speaker 1: risk pool. I heard Ryan say today, Hey, I know,

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Speaker 1: why don't you let the insurance companies do that? Just

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Speaker 1: give us a free market? If they would just try

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Speaker 1: a bill, um that had one sentence, there shall be

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Speaker 1: a free market in health insurance, and they did nothing else.

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Speaker 1: Keep the rest of Obamacare for a while. Um, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just assuming that we're starting here with healthcare, and then

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Speaker 1: Anne could buy a plan that any normal human would

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Speaker 1: want to buy. But right now it is illegal for

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Speaker 1: and to buy an insurance plan, or for insurance company

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Speaker 1: to sell a health insurance plan. How which doesn't cover

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Speaker 1: eight billion things that I promised you, Buck, I am

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Speaker 1: never faithful. How much of this do you think is really?

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Speaker 1: Is really that a lot of Americans, and not just

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Speaker 1: on the Democrats side, A lot of Americans expect somebody

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Speaker 1: else to pay their medical bills, because that's the expect

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Speaker 1: that's what we've been led to believe will happen. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's certainly unfortunately the mindset right now. But I think

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Speaker 1: once free market plans are available, I don't think it

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Speaker 1: will take very long for people to start figuring out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've talked about this floor and I've

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Speaker 1: written about it. UM. In addition to my seven hundred

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Speaker 1: dollar a month plan that is acceptable to to under

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Speaker 1: the Obamacare law, but will not let me to go

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Speaker 1: to any decent hospitals. UM. Just by the way, UM.

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Speaker 1: In addition to that, I belong to a Christian healthcare

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Speaker 1: group health and it's it's health insurance, though by law

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Speaker 1: they're not allowed to call it insurance. UM. I don't

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Speaker 1: have to cover drug addictions, therapy, I don't have to

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Speaker 1: cover I don't have to cover everybody's pregnancies. UM. I

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Speaker 1: do have to be a Christian. It's fifty dollars a month. Buck.

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Speaker 1: If you expanded talk about risk pools. If it were

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Speaker 1: open to everyone, it would be twenty hours a month.

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Speaker 1: Everybody would buy it, UM, I mean everybody buys. Often

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Speaker 1: in states they require you to buy health insurance. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really mind the mandate that you

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Speaker 1: have to buy health insurance. I mind the mandates about

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Speaker 1: what kind of health insurance I can buy, which again

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Speaker 1: is not a health insurance plan that any normal person

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Speaker 1: would want. What forces and and and Buck by the way,

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Speaker 1: and others. It forces people to pay for other people's

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Speaker 1: health insurance. That's It's really just about redistributing wealth. It's

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Speaker 1: not about getting it's certainly not about getting and in

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Speaker 1: the individual market better care. No, that's right. And the

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Speaker 1: worst thing about it is the trick is I mean, yes,

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of what the government does is redistribute

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Speaker 1: income from from people who are paying taxes to people

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Speaker 1: who aren't paying taxes. But at least that's done, whatever

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Speaker 1: you think about that, at least it's done overall income tax.

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Speaker 1: Here the redistribution is happening. We pay it through our

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Speaker 1: insurance premiums. And then they wonder why insurance is so expensive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do from here. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting weekend for Paul Ryan and come

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Speaker 1: for making the time. We appreciate it. Fake to talk

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Speaker 1: Freestyle freestyle. Friday is upon us as his action movie quote, Friday,

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Speaker 1: come on, bring it action. I hope you're ready. I'll

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Speaker 1: be here in any minute. We don't. I guess he

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Speaker 1: it out there we go. People know, No, it's all right.

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Speaker 1: I called for it. I know. I'm just saying we don't.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get some new quotes in there for action

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Speaker 1: movie quote Friday. All right, hitting a break and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about national security, politics, all sorts of fun

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Speaker 1: things the next hour. Stay with me, Brent in New

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Speaker 1: Mexico on the I Heart app. What's up, sir, Hey buck? Uh,

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Speaker 1: just one quick quote for you, Yes, sir, would would

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Speaker 1: you like a shout at the title? What do you say?

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Speaker 1: And he says, yes, sir, I would alright, alright, hit

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Speaker 1: the front yard and the cops are all there. It's

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Speaker 1: like one of the things that you used to talk about,

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Speaker 1: like in reality, if it ever really happened, like the

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Speaker 1: that from lethal weapon? Yeah? All right, okay, you know

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Speaker 1: it took me a second to get there. We'll give

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Speaker 1: me a half point. This is like in math when

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Speaker 1: I remember that is that That's that's when mel Gibson

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Speaker 1: It's not Gary Busey? Is it? No? Who is he fighting?

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Speaker 1: He's fighting? Is it Gary Busey? Yes? Okay, yeah, Gary Busey.

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Speaker 1: Interesting interesting individual, especially if you watch Entourage. But so,

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Speaker 1: it took me a second to get there, Brent, But

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Speaker 1: what any any any thoughts on healthcare? You just just

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Speaker 1: an action movie quote modes. It's close to the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts on them. I think

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Speaker 1: it's just all drama. Honestly, I think you look like

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Speaker 1: the al Sharpkins of the world, where they all want

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Speaker 1: they don't want this thing to end. They want to

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Speaker 1: keep going because they all justify their jobs. And all

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Speaker 1: these people that are trying to pass push this bill.

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter if they were forwarded against that they

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Speaker 1: can all go back to their constituents. You know, they

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Speaker 1: have all got muggled lines where they could tell people's stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think they wanted to end. I think

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Speaker 1: they want this thing to go round and round and

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Speaker 1: round and round. What do you think. I think that

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to be honest about what healthcare really has

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Speaker 1: become in this country, which is just a massive scheme

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Speaker 1: for the redistribution of wealth that we expect that we

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Speaker 1: will only have to pay a small We're all trying

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Speaker 1: to get into a position where we pay a small

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Speaker 1: fraction of the overall cost of our health care and

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Speaker 1: the rest of it will be picked up by somebody else.

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Speaker 1: That's somebody else's the government, but the government is really us,

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Speaker 1: and so the cycle continues and continues. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone's gonna say that Americans and have a free market

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Speaker 1: health insurance, but that also means you have to live

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Speaker 1: with your choices. And look, look, I think that a

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Speaker 1: a mandate to buy catastrophic care maybe where we're heading,

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Speaker 1: and the sooner we can get there, the better. But

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Speaker 1: in the meantime there's just a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of nonsense. And we were told things by our own

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Speaker 1: side here, and that's important to keep in mind. But

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Speaker 1: we were told things by Republicans that now we can

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Speaker 1: tell them pretty clear not true. But Brent, thanks for

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Speaker 1: calling him man, and thanks for getting that lethal weapon

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Speaker 1: quote out of me. He took a second, but I

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Speaker 1: got there. Alan in Florida on w n t M,

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Speaker 1: what's up, Allen, Hey back, I got a quick explanation

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Speaker 1: of the finest team that is Vomit curs that people

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Speaker 1: have their understanding. Okay, we got a little over a minute,

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Speaker 1: but I'll give it to you. Go ahead, won't won't

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Speaker 1: take you long if you're all that's remember when lotteries

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Speaker 1: first came out, Lotteries play every time. Somebody blinds took

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Speaker 1: about a year in a halford and Voligo broke. What

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Speaker 1: they figured out is there's no way that he can

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Speaker 1: take in this. I need to tell all that money

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Speaker 1: back out, so you have to start paying take a

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Speaker 1: partial things. That's exactly what the bomb a here does.

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Speaker 1: It promises bull payments it has. What's happened is people

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Speaker 1: have used it so much in the first couple of

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Speaker 1: years that it's going broke because people are using it

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Speaker 1: uh and spending all the money before enough it's taken in.

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Speaker 1: So what they're gonna have to do if they continue

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Speaker 1: to go down the path of bomb here they start

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Speaker 1: making partial payments, which is exactly what happens in Europe,

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Speaker 1: which exactly what happens in Canada. That's why they all

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Speaker 1: come here from major surgeries, impartial partial payments meaning what well,

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Speaker 1: instead of everybody getting to have uh, do we just

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Speaker 1: lose them? I can't hear him. He's back. Sorry, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: if if everybody, if everybody needs a near replacement, only

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Speaker 1: thirty are going to get it. And all of those

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Speaker 1: that are healthy enough that's according to the rules, will

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Speaker 1: they get it? I heard some on the other day,

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Speaker 1: tell me Alan, Unfortunately, we're at time, my fram a,

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Speaker 1: thank you. We're calling in on w nt M bug

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Speaker 1: Sexton with America. Now. The Freedom Hut is fired up

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Speaker 1: as Team Buck assembles shoulder to shoulder shields high call

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Speaker 1: in eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four

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Speaker 1: four nine hundred two eight to five Welcome Back Team

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Speaker 1: Action movie quote. Friday continues on if you want to

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Speaker 1: give a ring and see if you can stump me

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Speaker 1: with one of those, by all means do uh no,

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Speaker 1: no Bruce Willis, no Schwortzinger, no stallone Today. I just

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the big three for me, and I

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Speaker 1: got nothing. I'll even take some Van Damn quotes. You

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Speaker 1: want to throw those my way? Extra points if you

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Speaker 1: have kind of a slightly funky Belgian French accent while

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Speaker 1: you do it. Yeah, that's that's one way to go.

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Speaker 1: Um So I would call in with VANDAM quotes if

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Speaker 1: you got those two. All right, we got good news.

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Speaker 1: I want to give you some good news. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are gonna give you today. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: the publican parties imploading, it's all over. I saw on

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Speaker 1: CNN one of their a fascinating thing, a little, a

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Speaker 1: little peek behind the curtain from somebody who used to

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Speaker 1: work at CNN as a as a political commentator. There

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Speaker 1: are commentators like people like me who used to go

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Speaker 1: on and they'll put under your name, you know, commentator,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll also introduce you sometimes as a conservative commentator.

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Speaker 1: Which is really just a way of saying that whatever

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Speaker 1: analysis you have is tainted by your crazy politics. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're just like one of those people walking around in

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Speaker 1: a in a tri corner hat with a musket, you know,

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Speaker 1: handing out a copy of the Constitution to everyone new

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Speaker 1: pass And this is what they're this is the imagery

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Speaker 1: that they try to evoke for much of their audience's

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Speaker 1: conservative political commentator. But then they also have people who

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Speaker 1: are just political analysts. I always think that's a fascinating distinction,

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Speaker 1: because you're either a reporter or you're giving commentary on

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Speaker 1: the reporting, i e. Analysis, But a political analyst is

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Speaker 1: a way of elevating and of course the political analyists

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Speaker 1: over there are always democrats, um, and a political analyst

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Speaker 1: is a way of elevating or chief political analysts. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, anytime you have somebody the usage and

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Speaker 1: media of chief and senior, I always love those, you know,

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Speaker 1: chief political strategist, senior, such and such a reporter. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of a friend of mine when saying

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Speaker 1: that strategic was a much overused word, or rather strategic

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Speaker 1: is something like hummus that you just put on things

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Speaker 1: to make it taste better or sound better. The word strategic.

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Speaker 1: Also true of tactical. By the way, you can add

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Speaker 1: tactical to any number of things, and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden it's supposed to make it a lot cooler. Like,

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Speaker 1: hey man, your vest looks kind of looks kind of

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Speaker 1: beat Like that's not that cool. It's like, oh, really,

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Speaker 1: it's a tactical vest. Oh, tactical fancy. Also true of strategic,

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Speaker 1: Like you don't want to just be an analyst, you

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Speaker 1: want to be a strategic analyst, because then you're looking

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Speaker 1: at strategicy. Uh so that's another. And then, of course,

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Speaker 1: if you're a political person, you want to be a

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Speaker 1: political analyst, not the political commentator. What depends on the network.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a political commentator, then you're just some

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Speaker 1: guy who's like, wow, wow, trauma is great, map map.

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Speaker 1: Whereas if you're analyst, you you have sources in d C.

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Speaker 1: You're part of the elite establishment that knows what's going on,

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Speaker 1: and what you say should be held in a certain

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Speaker 1: degree of reverence. Right. So, anyway, one of the one

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Speaker 1: of the political analysts over at sea and said that

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Speaker 1: it is impossible to overstate I think it was Gloria Borger,

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Speaker 1: it was impossible to overstate what a defeat this healthcare

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Speaker 1: situation is. No, it's very that I want to defeat.

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Speaker 1: This is the administration. It is very possible to overstate

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Speaker 1: because it's not that big a deal. I'm more concerned

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Speaker 1: about it, not from the perspective of the optics and

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Speaker 1: oh this it's a stumble out of the gate. They've

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Speaker 1: fallen flat on their faces. I made a belly flop

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Speaker 1: analogy earlier. Yeah, that's not great, But my concern as

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Speaker 1: much more too. Can we trust the Republicans to do

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Speaker 1: in Congress, to do what they've been saying they're gonna do,

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Speaker 1: or are we always gonna get caught up in this Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's these moderates, and politics is the art

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Speaker 1: of the possible. That's not I don't remember being told

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Speaker 1: that when we were when we were supposed to oppose

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Speaker 1: Obama the Democratic Party in twelve and twenty and yes

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Speaker 1: in sixteen as well. I don't remember anyone saying, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're we're gonna we're gonna take back the

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Speaker 1: White House and we're going to have a majority in

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Speaker 1: the House, in the Senate so that we can find

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Speaker 1: the most moderate consensus positions possible that will even bring

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Speaker 1: some Democrats on board. You didn't hear any of that

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Speaker 1: of the early days of the Obama administration. Obama's first

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Speaker 1: two years, when he had the House and the Senate

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Speaker 1: in Democrat control. They were just going off and doing stuff.

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Speaker 1: Weren't worried about how it looked. And of course the

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Speaker 1: media was on their side. I get that, but it

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Speaker 1: didn't matter that it was scorched earth, didn't matter. There

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Speaker 1: were wasn't an ounce of bipartisanship, not not even as

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Speaker 1: a smidgeon of bipartisanship, not even a tiny tiny bit

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Speaker 1: in any of those actions. And you had Obama with

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Speaker 1: one of his more famous or infamous quotes, you know,

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Speaker 1: elections have consequences. Yeah, they do. And that's what all

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Speaker 1: of us thought. With the Republicans coming into power this

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Speaker 1: time around, the assumption was, okay, well, we now have

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Speaker 1: people in charge. The Republican Party has people in charge

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Speaker 1: that will be pursuing certain policies, and we will see

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Speaker 1: what that looks like. Uh. Instead we're being told, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's not really the way this was ever

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Speaker 1: going to go. That's not really how this was supposed

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Speaker 1: to happen. Um, we have all We'll get into that

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Speaker 1: in one second. Um. Uh, that's I guess the managing

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Speaker 1: of expectations that we all have to go through. Now.

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Speaker 1: So there's a good news story. Oh but before I

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Speaker 1: go into the good news story, let me just say

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Speaker 1: this whole notion of uh, there's nothing really that this

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Speaker 1: is a huge deal, Like it can't be overstated, how bad.

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Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. It really isn't.

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Speaker 1: I think that they'll return to healthcare later on, and

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Speaker 1: and maybe they'll be able to build some political momentum.

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Speaker 1: They'll be able to build some political momentum to get

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Speaker 1: healthcare don after they've shown some progress on taxes. If

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Speaker 1: Trump has I think this is probably fair to say.

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Speaker 1: If Trump has a booming economy and the numbers look

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Speaker 1: really good, and of course presidents get more credit for

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Speaker 1: good economies than they usually deserve. But let's just say

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Speaker 1: Trump has a booming economy that will create its own

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Speaker 1: political momentum that will make positive change on healthcare more possible.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think I could be wrong, But that's

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you a glass half of We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be going off on the weekend soon, folks. I

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Speaker 1: want you to, you know, be chilling, hanging out, you know,

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Speaker 1: mind's clear, so that when we come back in the

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Speaker 1: Freedom how Monday, we're ready to dive into all the

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Speaker 1: day's events. Once again. I don't think this is catastrophic.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a huge deal. I want to

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Speaker 1: give you a good news story to to show you

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Speaker 1: that there are other things that are that are happening now. Well,

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Speaker 1: remember the Keystone XL pipeline we had Barack Obama rejected.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we have we have Obama. This is Obama's

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Speaker 1: rejection of Keystone. Will just play a little bit of

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Speaker 1: this as a little reminder. Go ahead, good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Several years ago, the State Department began a review process

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Speaker 1: for the proposed construction of a pipeline that would carry

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Speaker 1: Canadian crude oil through our heartland to ports in the

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Speaker 1: Gulf of Mexico and out into the world market. This morning,

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Speaker 1: Secretary Kerry informed me that after extensive public outreach and

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Speaker 1: consultation with other Cabinet agencies, the State Department has decided

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Speaker 1: that the Keystone XL pipeline would not serve the national

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Speaker 1: interests of the United states. I agree with that decision.

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Speaker 1: This morning, I also have the opportunity to speak with

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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada, and while he expressed

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Speaker 1: his disappointment given Canada's position on this issue, we both

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Speaker 1: agreed that our close friendship on the whole whatever any

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Speaker 1: point here is that they reject the Keystone Xcel pipeline,

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Speaker 1: even left wing Trudeau of Canada and I I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the ladies listening are like,

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Speaker 1: oh Trudeau, uh. Even Trudeau of Canada was like, really,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna the oil is coming out of the ground.

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Speaker 1: You don't want the creation of the pipeline on US

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Speaker 1: soil and the the economic benefits and the jobs that

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Speaker 1: it would create, because why you'd rather have us take

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Speaker 1: this across Canada east west on east West access and

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Speaker 1: for export to primarily Asian markets. What's the point of

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Speaker 1: If this is about climate change, and climate change is

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Speaker 1: a global issue for the Democrats, As you know, I

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Speaker 1: come to a halt. It's just completely insane what they're proposing.

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Speaker 1: And this anti oil insanity that they have was the

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Speaker 1: pipeline to go forward. It was just a straight up

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Speaker 1: pander two environmentalist interests and environmental lobby that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: coming out of the ground and gonna get used and

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Speaker 1: exported one way or the other. It can either benefit

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Speaker 1: America or not. The Democrats said, well it'll let's have

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Speaker 1: it not benefit America. The good news story I have

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Speaker 1: for you is that the permit has been issued today

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Speaker 1: for the Keystone Xcel pipeline. So President Trump has been

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Speaker 1: saying for a while that he would reverse that ridiculous

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Speaker 1: decision from the Obama administration. Oh, can we get Pelosi

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Speaker 1: Why are you taking this oil out through your own country? Well,

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Speaker 1: because the Canadians don't want the pipeline in their own country,

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Speaker 1: We already have pipelines, and pipelines are actually a lot,

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Speaker 1: to say, far better than transporting via freight train. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, I I don't know what to say to

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Speaker 1: to this notion that the smart the smart parties the

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Speaker 1: the presidency at one point, right, you get that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: game over. But Keystone XCEL has been permitted as and

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Speaker 1: I should say has been given a permit. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: that is going through. So I'll give you a little

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Speaker 1: happy news story here because the reason that the abministration

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Speaker 1: Have you seen news league videos of the like seagulls

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Speaker 1: spills and like see will be it. And there's no

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Speaker 1: argument really beyond that. This is people in a circle

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Speaker 1: got nothing really beyond that for why they don't like

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Speaker 1: Keystone XL pipeline. But that is an important constituency of

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Speaker 1: anything else you have in your mind. Welcome Freestyle Friday

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Speaker 1: can tinues right after this break. Marjorie in Virginia on

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Speaker 1: the I Heart app Welcome to the freedom of Marjorie.

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Speaker 1: I have original Team Buccaro. Oh wow, al right from

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Speaker 1: back in the day, original squad. Thank you for calling in.

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Speaker 1: I have a question that I have posed to every

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Speaker 1: commentator's page that I can think of, and nobody in

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Speaker 1: the media is it is even reminding people that the

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Speaker 1: Congress gave themselves a special um uh exemption from Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: You got it? And and absolutely nobody mentions is Obamacare

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Speaker 1: would have never taken off and gotten off the ground,

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Speaker 1: and neither with this goofy build that they've got out

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Speaker 1: now uh if if they hadn't have given themselves a

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Speaker 1: carve out. Oh yeah. Federal government employees have great insurance,

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Speaker 1: by the way they have. They have the gold plate.

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Speaker 1: Any sure will take at federal Federal employees have great insurance.

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Speaker 1: And I think that it was very instructive that they

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Speaker 1: would say things like, well, we couldn't attract the talent.

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Speaker 1: We need to work on the hill. If we had

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Speaker 1: to have Obamacare plans like well, so, then which is it?

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Speaker 1: Are these good plans with lots of benefits that people

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Speaker 1: want to have, or are these plans that stink? But

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Speaker 1: it's better than nothing. And so for people that are

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Speaker 1: getting something for free, they'll vote for you because something

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Speaker 1: is better than nothing. But for the many people that

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Speaker 1: fall in between being able to afford healthcare and having

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Speaker 1: too much money to qualify for Medicaid or for welfare healthcare, Uh,

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Speaker 1: they feel like they're just getting the short end of

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Speaker 1: the stick and they are behind. I just I just

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Speaker 1: had to call in because I've just never had anybody

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Speaker 1: pose the question. You know, well it it shows the hypocrisy.

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Speaker 1: But keep in mind that Congress was exempted from insider

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Speaker 1: trading laws for for quite and I think they even

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Speaker 1: watered down the bill that made it know that they

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Speaker 1: still want to be able to trade on political information.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you see, you see how the

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Speaker 1: markets move in response to political events. This is no surprise.

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Speaker 1: If you have if you have the inside track on

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Speaker 1: what's happening within Congress, I'm sure that's that's valuable information.

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Speaker 1: Congress was exempted from from insider trading laws for a

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Speaker 1: long time. And they don't want Obamacare plans either, So

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Speaker 1: Obamacare for v but not for me. That's the way

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Speaker 1: the Congress likes to do things. But thank you Marjorie

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Speaker 1: for calling in original squad shields. Hi. Carl in Indiana

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Speaker 1: wants to bring it with a movie quote, Well, Carl,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's been brought. What's up you ready? Bro?

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Speaker 1: I was I was born ready all right? This is

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Speaker 1: You're down? Your down when the air current may tip

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Speaker 1: I did? Commando Bam Schwarzenegger classic, good action movie. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad we're I'm glad we're on tracker with the action movies.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that movie is among the more ridiculous

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Speaker 1: action movies that doesn't involve like superpowers or some kind

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Speaker 1: of mutation where you can, you know, fly or shoot

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Speaker 1: fire out of your eyes or something. But it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great testosterone based action movie.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's very you know, raw, very eighties. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's good stuff that I've seen. That one. I've seen

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Speaker 1: that one a million times. Yeah, and that has uh oh,

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Speaker 1: what's his name? I can't remember the guy's name in

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Speaker 1: it now anyway, but yeah, it's it's good stuff. Is

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Speaker 1: that Is that on your top five list? Carl? Oh? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's required viewing for any action movie fans. And let

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Speaker 1: me just put this caveat out there for all the callers,

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Speaker 1: because I listened to you every day. Buck, love the show,

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Speaker 1: but the action movie quotes, people need to understand. It

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Speaker 1: needs to be sometime between uh, it needs to have

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Speaker 1: probably some steroid abuse and maybe a cocaine field script.

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Speaker 1: And that is what a true action movie isn't a

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Speaker 1: lot of these westerns and obscure movies that people are

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Speaker 1: calling in. I appreciate it, but you know that's not

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Speaker 1: an action movie, you know what I mean, Carl, I

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Speaker 1: do know what you. I try to bring everybody on

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Speaker 1: the same page here with with the with the limited,

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Speaker 1: very specific genre of action movie. Now Marshall and Carl

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Speaker 1: Shields time, and thank you for calling in martial arts movies.

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Speaker 1: That that gets a little you know, there's a little

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Speaker 1: leeway there. I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and

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Speaker 1: tell you Chuck Norris is not an action star. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a communist obviously, but you know, once you get

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Speaker 1: into I mean maybe Tombstone with Val Kilner and Val

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Speaker 1: Kilner and uh, what's his name the other guy who's

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Speaker 1: not as good in the movie as Valka Kurt Russell.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty action movie like in the level of the fighting,

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Speaker 1: in the gunfights and so, but it's really a western uh,

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Speaker 1: and there's some others that can and look, I'll be

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Speaker 1: the first two minutes. I just like the quote, and

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Speaker 1: they gave us the quote here the team that helps

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Speaker 1: us pull together some of the uh, some of the

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Speaker 1: audio audio sound bites that we play, but it was

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Speaker 1: you Shall Not Pass is not technically speaking from an

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Speaker 1: action an action movie. I think we can say that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair a fair point. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings is definitely it's really fantasy genre,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna be honest about it. Um. I remember

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Speaker 1: I had a fourth grade teacher who would just read

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Speaker 1: to us from A Lord of the Rings. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: he read to us from the books during in between

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Speaker 1: classes and just the whole class would sit there and

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Speaker 1: he would read from A Lord of the Rings. And

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Speaker 1: it was one of those things that at the time

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Speaker 1: it didn't really register as this, but later on I

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Speaker 1: realized that getting people, whatever it is, getting people to

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Speaker 1: that's profound consequences. For me, it was, uh, it was

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Speaker 1: Alexander Duma and the Three Musketeers. That was one of

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Speaker 1: the earliest ones I remember reading and loving, and actually

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Speaker 1: Michael Crichton and Jurassic Park, Congo Sphere, Rising Song, a

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Speaker 1: lot of Michael Crichton's books I started. I started knocking

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Speaker 1: those off when I was in the fourth fifth grade,

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Speaker 1: I think around there, and that was that was the

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Speaker 1: And I know I as a kid, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: read more than I wanted to watch TV. And that's

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Speaker 1: a really important you want to get to that place

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Speaker 1: you want to read a book more than you want

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Speaker 1: to watch something that's on TV. And our movie even

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Speaker 1: maybe an action movie equal. And then I went on

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Speaker 1: to Tom Clancy obviously, um, but that's story time for

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Speaker 1: another time. Eight four four d Buck. We continue our

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Speaker 1: to tell you all a story that was that came

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Speaker 1: up in my mind because of a piece in the

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Speaker 1: New York Times. The piece was the truth about New

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Speaker 1: York City's elite high schools. And this this will quickly

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Speaker 1: turn into a an example of a much broader narrative

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Speaker 1: that I think affects well. If you yourself have gone

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Speaker 1: this is an example of well, it's it's a fascinating

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Speaker 1: case study, and it's one in which I have some

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Speaker 1: experience myself. So this let me I'll first let me

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Speaker 1: tell you my own experience with then I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what this piece is saying. So I was in New

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Speaker 1: York City, you end up applying for high school if

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Speaker 1: you go to parochial school, Catholic school, or if you

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Speaker 1: go to some of the private schools in the city,

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00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: or public school, and you can apply for different high

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Speaker 1: schools and they have a three tiered elite public school.

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Speaker 1: Well there there are three very elite public schools in

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Speaker 1: the city. The most famous is Stuyvesant High School. And

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Speaker 1: I remember this whole process because I took the test

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Speaker 1: for Steveson. Of course, now I was gonna say humble brag,

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00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: but I guess it's just bragg But who cares about

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00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: me taking a test again into high school like decades ago.

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00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: I did end up getting in. I didn't go, but

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00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: I remember being outside of this high school and all

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00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: you had was a ticket in one hand, this paper ticket.

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00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: Remember this is back in the day. This is when

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00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: people took, you know, chariots to school and we all

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: rode on horseback. This is back in the in the nineties.

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00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: Uh four people had you know. I think back to

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00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: my life as a teenager New York City and just

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00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: the notion of not having like we didn't have cell phones.

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01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: Well I had to use phone phones, right, I mean, now,

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01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: could you imagine now, I feel like if I told

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: a you know, a sixteen year old, Oh, you've got

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01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: to actually dial that on a phone. They look at

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01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: me like, um, a dinosaur that's been you know, unfrozen

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01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: from my uh my cryogenic chamber or something. But yeah,

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: they didn't have cell phones and I and so all

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: that I'm sure is now digital and much more advanced.

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01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: But I remember waiting outside of this of this school

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Speaker 1: was actually it was the Stuyvesant High School here in

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Speaker 1: New York City, which is in some measures the most

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Speaker 1: I think by S A T score, maybe the most

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Speaker 1: elite public school in the country. I think it's either one,

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Speaker 1: two or three on the highest s A the highest

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01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: me and s a T score for a group of people.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, for students that are of a certain

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Speaker 1: number of students overall. And it it was I never

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Speaker 1: forget this. I was outside of this school. I knew

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Speaker 1: I had to I was at a Catholic private school

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01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: at the time, and I knew I had to do

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01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: very well on this test to get in. And I

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01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: remembered sitting there and I were standing there outside with

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Speaker 1: I mean massive thousands of kids. I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: just it was like we were trying to get into

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Speaker 1: a sports stadium, but we were actually going in to

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01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: take up three or four hour long whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: standardized test. And for a lot of these kids, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is there, this is I mean their ticket. Pardon

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: the punt here because they got a ticket in their hands,

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01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: but it really is because if they get in Stevenson

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: is a very elite place and they can go from

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Speaker 1: there to any you know, you name it, any number

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Speaker 1: of fantastic colleges and university. So there's a lot, you

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: can tell. I remembered also with these kids all around

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01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: me and me too, but there was a lot of

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01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: stress in their faces. They had two pencils in one

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01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: hand and a piece of paper in the other. And

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Speaker 1: I also remembered at the time looking around and seeing

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Speaker 1: that there were there was a preponderance, there were a

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Speaker 1: majority even of the students were Asian, Asian Americans. There

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Speaker 1: were a lot of them that we're taking this test

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01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: for for stuyves in high school. And this is not

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01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: this is not surprising because stives in high school again

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Speaker 1: the most well among the most elite public schools in

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Speaker 1: the entire country, is over seventy percent Asian. It's about

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Speaker 1: seventy three or seventy four percent, I think, which does

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Speaker 1: not in any way represent the demographics of New York City.

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Speaker 1: And it's I think about fifteen white Caucasian And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know all this because I applied. And it's also

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Speaker 1: a pretty famous case study of what happens when you

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Speaker 1: what happens in at least the New York City school

1131
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: system when there's so much emphasis put on it. It's

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Speaker 1: just the admission tests, by the way, the test is

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Speaker 1: it so imagine instead of college admissions now where they

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Speaker 1: play all these games. And they do, and some of

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Speaker 1: the recent Supreme Court decisions on a firm of action

1136
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: have just been, uh, such flimsy legal reasoning. But it's

1137
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: it's about social justice, and that's what these judges that

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01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: keep these programs, keep these admissions programs alive with their

1139
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: social justice balancing of different applicants. Some they won't do

1140
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: quotas because quota is not okay, but somehow they always

1141
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: have the same mix more or less of different ethnicities

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01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: and preferred groups in their incoming classes. Um. And they

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01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: just they're all these games that are played with the

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01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: legal system as a result of this. UM But anyway,

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01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: uh so Steveson he's a place where instead of the

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01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: way they do in college, where s a T and extracurriculus,

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01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: and they take this holistic approach. The holistic approach is

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01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: just an excuse for the admissions committee. And this is

1149
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: at state schools. These are schools where you're and you know,

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01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: these are schools where your tax dollars are are going

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01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: to set up the whole institute or paying for the

1152
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: whole institution. Well, I mean people say they're tuition to

1153
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: I know, but your tax dollars are going to state

1154
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: schools and they engage in the same price. So it's

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Speaker 1: the government, it's government employees who are engaged in these

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01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: practice of social justice balancing and rebalancing to get a

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01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: uh an income in class that literally looks the way

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Speaker 1: they wanted to look in terms of the ethnic representation.

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01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: So and Stuyvesant High School, where it is just a test,

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01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: you have almost three quarters of the incoming year in

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Speaker 1: and year out. I mean, it's it's amazing the number

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Speaker 1: of almost three quarters incoming classes Asian American. And so

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Speaker 1: in their literature they'll say that because I think about

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Speaker 1: two or three percent as African American and maybe something

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01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: similar to that is Hispanic, and in their literature they'll

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Speaker 1: always say that they are minority. And as I said

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Speaker 1: to you, I I took the test for this school,

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Speaker 1: very proud that I got in. I didn't end up going.

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Speaker 1: I went to a scholarship high school, so it was

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Speaker 1: also free, but it was a private scholarship or as

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Speaker 1: a private scholarship school called Regius High School here in

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Speaker 1: New York City. Was a fantastic place. By the way,

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Speaker 1: any school or the debate teams where all the because

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Speaker 1: it was like, that's for the coolest kids. That's the

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Speaker 1: main thing, not the football team, the debate team in

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Speaker 1: my high school. As I sit here and now as

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: a radio host, it's kind of funny, I guess, but

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Speaker 1: the debate team was the big thing in my high school.

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01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: It's like, came in, what are you doing this weekend? Oh,

1180
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to State. Oh word, you're going to State. Yeah,

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01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: that's right, Lincoln Douglas baby, represent That's what we called

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Douglas Debate. It was a nerdy school, obviously, and

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01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: a lot of you like it is a very nerdy place,

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: don't make no mistake about it. But I liked it

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 1: so uh Stuves in high school. I took the test,

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: went inside, and you could feel the pressure of all

1187
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: these young people because they felt like their futures were

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01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: It's one thing when you're applying to these schools and

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: you have a many months of lag, many weeks of

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: lag time before you find out. With stuyves In, it

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01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: was you know, you took it. It was all on

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01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: this one day, this one test. But because the test

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Speaker 1: is and it's it's what you would expect, you know,

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: science and or math and and reading comprehension, and it's

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01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: a pretty straightforward multiple choice test and it's just your score.

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Speaker 1: That's it. They don't play any games with anything else.

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01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: It's a public school, that's it. This is targeted. This

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01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: school is targeted as being discriminatory. And it's a fact.

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Speaker 1: It's a fascinating case study because you have a school

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Speaker 1: that's seventy five percent minority, that is now and this

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01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: is there was a piece in the New York Times

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Speaker 1: written about this because they're saying it is a discriminatory

1203
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: and so the l a c. P. Legal Defense and

1204
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: Educational Fund have filed civil rights complaints against the place.

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Speaker 1: So a school that is seventy by our definition of

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Speaker 1: what a minority is an ethnic minority. A school that

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Speaker 1: is seventy five percent minority, that is the flagship of

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Speaker 1: the New York City Public school system, and that is

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Speaker 1: among the most elite public schools in the country, is

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Speaker 1: being sued for civil rights violations. Think about that one

1211
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Speaker 1: for a second. And they, of course get into this

1212
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Speaker 1: discussion in the piece and I've heard this before of well,

1213
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Speaker 1: you know, this is uh, this yates a narrative, and

1214
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: the narrative is that Asian students come from backgrounds and

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01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: cultures that are more um that that that that put

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01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: a focus on educational achievement and attainment. And that's not true,

1217
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: and that's not fair. And and then we go to

1218
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: the okay, but if if that's not true, that's not fair.

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01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: We do have to at some point look at why

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Speaker 1: why is seventy of the incoming class at S. Davison

1221
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Speaker 1: High School Asian year in and year out, right, you

1222
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: know it's seventy some years, it's eighties, if it's in

1223
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: that neighborhood, why does that occur? Having gone to school

1224
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: at my scholarship school with a number of Asian students

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: who had parents who barely spoke English, by the way

1226
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Speaker 1: and were themselves first generation immigrants. I mean the parents

1227
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: had just come here and their English was still very uh,

1228
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Speaker 1: you know, imperfect, and they would have they would have

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01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: children that were these high achievers. And as we know,

1230
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: Asian Americans overall, on a on a per household basis,

1231
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: have a higher average income then uh, white Americans do.

1232
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: And it's just fascinating to watch the social justice mechanisms

1233
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: that are in place, and an organization like the Double

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01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: A c P claim discrimination on a test that is

1235
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: completely the criteria is just educational attainment and achievement, and

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01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 1: it's primarily uh, the biggest beneficiaries of this are in

1237
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: fact minority students of this of this objective test, but

1238
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: they don't feel the number is reflective enough of the

1239
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: overall balance of minorities a city. And you just start

1240
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, so do we need going to We

1241
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: can't do quotas, but if we don't have something that's

1242
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: close to a quota, because quota, of course, then brings

1243
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: up a narrative of what some people are not achieving

1244
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: as highly as others are, even though they're in the

1245
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: same place. This is, by the way, part of what

1246
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: firmative action does. This is why people like me oppose

1247
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: afirmative action. And it's one thing if you're gonna talk

1248
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: about affirmative action in the context of slavery and the

1249
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 1: legacy of slavery and the historical wrongs, but this is

1250
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: also applying to Latino students, and I just need to

1251
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: know what what's the affirmative action? What's the affirmative action

1252
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: argument there? That doesn't apply to Asian Americans who are

1253
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: first generation since they don't have there are no answers

1254
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: offered for any of this. But what you have is

1255
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: a willingness in this case two wage a war on

1256
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: minority excellence because there are some minority organizations that don't

1257
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: feel that this is representative enough of different minority groups.

1258
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: And when you ask, well, what can be done to

1259
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: make this better or what's the what do they really want?

1260
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: It's not even clear. They just object. Sure, they'll talk

1261
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: about additional after school programs and more test prep for

1262
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: disadvi managed areas that will benefit minorities, but um, there's

1263
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: there's really nothing here other than that they just object.

1264
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: The d a CP objects to stubs in high school. Um,

1265
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: what what do they want to be done about this? Well,

1266
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: they can say that we need a percentage of the

1267
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: students need to match the percentage of but then it's

1268
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: not about merit anymore. You can't have it both ways.

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01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: This is what social justice warriors or social justice organizations,

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Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call, and this is what they never

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Speaker 1: grapple it. This is why there's an intellectual dishonesty that's

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Speaker 1: at the heart of a lot of these organizations and

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Speaker 1: their agendas. You can have it both ways if you

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Speaker 1: have an objective test of merit. And think about this now,

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Speaker 1: think about this for your own state school, where have

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Speaker 1: you live across the country, think about this for in

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Speaker 1: many cases, police departments and fire departments and other civil

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Speaker 1: and municipal authorities that have written examinations as a part

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Speaker 1: of the hiring process. They keep getting told, well, we

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Speaker 1: don't have the proper they're not there's not a proper

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Speaker 1: representation of different groups here. And they say, well, this

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Speaker 1: is an objective Can we make a more objective task? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they try, and it's and it never were. It's never

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Speaker 1: objective enough. It's never objective enough. They they say, it's

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Speaker 1: discriminatory and outcome. Well, how do we fix that. Let's

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Speaker 1: do additional programs to help people never changes and the

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Speaker 1: moment you begin to talk about it. And this is why,

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Speaker 1: in the case of Asian Americans, you have a very interesting,

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Speaker 1: a very interesting part of the minority community to address

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Speaker 1: and to analyze in terms of their success and enrollment

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Speaker 1: in school. This is true, by the way, in the

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Speaker 1: California university system as well as a very large percentage

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Speaker 1: at the very at the top of the university system

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Speaker 1: Berkeley and U C. L A and California. Because they

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Speaker 1: did away with racial preferences. You have a lot of

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Speaker 1: Asian Americans in that system, in the top of that system,

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Speaker 1: and people say, well, that's discriminatory, Well, they need to

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Speaker 1: come up with more than we just don't like the outcome.

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Speaker 1: And there is at the heart of a lot of

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Speaker 1: these social justice initiatives there's what turns in to either

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Speaker 1: a dishonest approach or just a war on excellence, which

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Speaker 1: is that we're not going to tell people that they

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Speaker 1: all have to achieve and achieve equally. We're going to

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Speaker 1: determine before any of these decisions are made, what we

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Speaker 1: think the outcome is supposed to be, and if it

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like that, we've got a problem with it. Um.

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Speaker 1: I just think you see this the the Stuyvis in

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Speaker 1: effect playing out in different ways across the country, particularly

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Speaker 1: the school system, and there's so little honest discussion as

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Speaker 1: to why this is the way that it is and

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Speaker 1: what could be done to really change it. And instead,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you have one of the most elite,

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Speaker 1: predominantly minority high schools in the country, and this is

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Speaker 1: I've read this piece in New York Times just this

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Speaker 1: week getting sued by the double A c P. Because

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Speaker 1: it's not that it's not there's not enough of some minorities,

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Speaker 1: they say, and so therefore it's discriminatory. The logic of this,

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Speaker 1: I would wonder how anybody could make this makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But that's where we are, uh. And I still remember

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Speaker 1: it was a very important day for me as a

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Speaker 1: as a young person being there, realizing it was encapsulated

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Speaker 1: all at once. You better be ready to work hard

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Speaker 1: and to show up with your two pencils and your

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Speaker 1: and your little ticket, you know, buck wherever wherever it

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Speaker 1: is you're going in life, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: really talented, hungry, hard working kids out there. It was

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Speaker 1: a very it was a really important moment I can

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Speaker 1: tell you that we've got Melissa in West Virginia on

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Speaker 1: the I heart app Welcome to the Freedom Hut, Melissa Blo.

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Speaker 1: How are you that, I'm good? Thank you. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to say Americans should be very careful what they wish for.

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Speaker 1: In here. We've got a prime example easily available for

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Speaker 1: anyone to investigate. It's called the Veterans Administration Medical Clinic,

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Speaker 1: and they all have an abysmal record. And it is

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Speaker 1: the product of both parties. So you're saying that those

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Speaker 1: who believe that the more government runs our healthcare, the

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Speaker 1: better off will be, all they have to do is

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Speaker 1: look at the v A, which it should be noted,

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Speaker 1: is not is not for all Americans. It's for Americans

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Speaker 1: owed a very special debt by the American people and

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Speaker 1: by the government in that these are people who served

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Speaker 1: in the military. And if we can't get it right

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Speaker 1: for those who served in the military, which is a

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Speaker 1: much smaller pool than the overall population, and a specialize,

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Speaker 1: a special pool, and that they're owed something by the government.

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Speaker 1: It's not just being an American. You've gone above and

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Speaker 1: beyond and served your country. What makes anyone think that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get it right for three and twenty million

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Speaker 1: of us exactly. My husband is acent pital and permanent

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Speaker 1: service connected disabled Marine Corps veteran with thirteen years of

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Speaker 1: service rank be sergeant. He received of the more care. Well,

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Speaker 1: I thank your husband for a service. I'm very sorry

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Speaker 1: to hear about his abysmal care. I've I've had stories

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Speaker 1: before of people similar to your husband and their loved

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Speaker 1: ones on the radio in the past telling me that

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Speaker 1: they get substandard care. And this is just the expectations

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Speaker 1: are constantly being lowered a lot of these of you. Now,

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Speaker 1: I understanding is that some v A, some VA facilities

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Speaker 1: are better than others, which of course would make sense.

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Speaker 1: There's not a an overall standardized level that you get

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Speaker 1: from all of them, but the standardized level should be

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Speaker 1: that they're that they're all excellent and function, as you know,

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Speaker 1: first world, top class American care. And instead, my what

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Speaker 1: I'm told, and I haven't spent much time I've been

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Speaker 1: in a Walter read, but I haven't spent much time

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Speaker 1: in in in the v A hospitals, um is that

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Speaker 1: it's not very good. Yes, And you are bound by

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Speaker 1: your physical address as to which via you're allowed to

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Speaker 1: can Yeah, I I've I've heard that too, and I

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Speaker 1: know that they're trying to do more UH public private partnerships,

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Speaker 1: I think where you can get a voucher to go

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Speaker 1: to get private service. But I'm sure that's a cumbersome

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Speaker 1: and imperfect process. But Melissa, thank you for for calling

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Speaker 1: in and tell your husband we thank them for a service.

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Speaker 1: And UH will stay on the issue of v A

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Speaker 1: care and of course anything the government's doing with regard

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Speaker 1: to healthcare in general. We're gonna talk about Nunez, the

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Speaker 1: intelligence that's come out in the last few days, or

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Speaker 1: the allegations of it, at least Russia. A whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff that's coming up third hour, So stay right there,

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Speaker 1: blug Sexton with America Now. The Freedom Hut is fired

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Speaker 1: up as team Buck assembles shouldered as shoulder shields high.

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Speaker 1: Call in eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight

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Speaker 1: four four nine hundred to eight to five. My friend

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Speaker 1: Steven Yates is online with us now. He is chairman

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Speaker 1: of the Idaho Republican Party and also formerly a deputy

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Speaker 1: deputely national security advisor for Vice President Dick Cheney. He's

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Speaker 1: a national security expert. Steven Great to have you. Great

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Speaker 1: to be with. Thank you. Uh So, I've got a

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Speaker 1: range of topics I want to hit with you today, Steve,

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Speaker 1: But first the healthcare thing. You you're a guy who's

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Speaker 1: who's been to the dance in d C. You know

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Speaker 1: how this stuff goes. What's what's your main takeaway with

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Speaker 1: given what's happened today with the Obamacare repeal and replaced.

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Speaker 1: There are two things. There is definite pressure from the

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Speaker 1: grassroots expecting that Republicans are going to deliver on the

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Speaker 1: promise of repeal and replace of Obamacare. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: mindful of this being basically well within the first hundred

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Speaker 1: days of a presidency, and there's a lot of I

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Speaker 1: think reaction to this being all are nothing right now,

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Speaker 1: and my senses were in the first few body blows

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Speaker 1: of a multi round fight. The Democrats are going after

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Speaker 1: every possible way to stand in the way, and there

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Speaker 1: are divisions within the Republican Party that have to get worked.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not at the point where I

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Speaker 1: throw in the towel and say everyone has failed. But

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Speaker 1: it's disciplining to watch how this seems to have rolled

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Speaker 1: through the week and kind of crashed on the rocks

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Speaker 1: at the end of it. Are you surprised that Paul

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Speaker 1: Ryan seems surprised by all of this. That's one part

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Speaker 1: of this that I haven't really gotten to read on yet. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm hard to know what is real surprise

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Speaker 1: and what is Well, I didn't quite expected to play

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Speaker 1: out exactly like this, But he had to know that

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Speaker 1: he's dealing with complicated politics in this caucus. He had

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Speaker 1: to know that the president was working some members of

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Speaker 1: the caucus. Maybe they overestimated the President's polled with the

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Speaker 1: Freeham Caucus members. UH. And you know, they're trying to

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Speaker 1: do something that is complicated, to to go after repeal

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Speaker 1: and replace in three broad stages, but the whole world

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Speaker 1: is judging stage one. So you know, I've seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of complicated bills go forward in in the UH,

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Speaker 1: in the Congress, and administrations try to push them through

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Speaker 1: UH and a lot of them end up getting pulled

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Speaker 1: apart a little bit like this. So I can't think

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Speaker 1: the Speaker Ryan, with all these years on the Hill,

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Speaker 1: is totally surprised that this is hard. Steve, you worked

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Speaker 1: in a White House national security function. I just want

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Speaker 1: to ask what you think about what happened with House

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Speaker 1: permanence like Committee on Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunez. He said, Well,

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Speaker 1: he came out and said, and we played the clips

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Speaker 1: here on air, that that he believed there was incidental

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Speaker 1: or that he saw reports there was incidental collection, and

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Speaker 1: that there was capturing of conversations of Trump and his associates,

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Speaker 1: that this was likely and that it didn't involve Russia.

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Speaker 1: This is what he was out there saying. Now he's

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Speaker 1: said something a little different. Play clip Undy five. I

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Speaker 1: don't know until we won't know that until we actually

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Speaker 1: receive all of the documentation. It's it's hard to know

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Speaker 1: where the information came from until you get the reports

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Speaker 1: and have time to go through them and see all

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Speaker 1: the sourcing of the documents. Now, Steve, you're not on

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Speaker 1: the inside anymore. I'm on the inside anymore. So we

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Speaker 1: can talk about this because we don't know. What do

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Speaker 1: you think though? What is going on here? What can

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Speaker 1: we look at and say that seems read that seems

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Speaker 1: plausible or reasonable, or no, that seems like nonsense when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Trump Russia collusion, surveillance of Trump and

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Speaker 1: his associates. Paul Manafort with this consulting and he's going

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Speaker 1: to testify. There's all the these different storyline threads. Where

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Speaker 1: are you and all this? What do you make of it? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think first for Chairman Unias, and I know him

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty professional and good guy and uh.

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Speaker 1: And whatever you're dealing with hot and controversial topics and intelligence,

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Speaker 1: you always have to be careful about how quick you

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Speaker 1: go on partial reports. And I don't know how complete

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Speaker 1: or partial information there was on this, but we do

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Speaker 1: know that for seemingly weeks, there's been this drumbeat of

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Speaker 1: there's no evidence of any surveillance of the Trump campaign. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we know that there was some surveillance of the

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign, at least incidentally in that that's what led

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Speaker 1: to General Flynn being fired. Uh. And so there's at

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Speaker 1: least evidence that some of that happened incidentally. UH. And

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Speaker 1: what sounds to me like is that the investigators for

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Speaker 1: the House Intelligence Committee are finding more information of that

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Speaker 1: incidental election and what that means to ordinary Americans. So

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Speaker 1: in TOES, this community goes out and gathers things on

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Speaker 1: foreign targets. Occasionally those foreign targets end up talking to

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Speaker 1: American citizens. There's really strict rules on how that's handled.

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Speaker 1: And in this case, the major, major, I think colonious

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Speaker 1: violation is that some of that was many public it

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Speaker 1: seems like clearly for political payback, and in this case

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Speaker 1: political payback that worked, and that Flynn ended up resigning

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Speaker 1: because of that leak of information. But I'm wondering, Steven,

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Speaker 1: Let's let's say that we find out that and we

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Speaker 1: and we don't get individuals because I'm always I think

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Speaker 1: that the people that do, the people that actively subvert

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Speaker 1: rules about the protection of of classified you know, that

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Speaker 1: they tend to know that they're they're taking a pretty

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Speaker 1: big risk, and so they usually take some mitigation of

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Speaker 1: the chances that they will be caught in that. But

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Speaker 1: let's just say that we do find out, based on

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Speaker 1: what Nunia as the investigation goes forward, that there was

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Speaker 1: some collection, really that what he initially said was true,

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: that there was incidental collection. Trump and some of his

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01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 1: people got caught up in this. And then there was

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Speaker 1: an intentional disregarding from within the intelligence community by some

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Speaker 1: people of the procedures that are meant to protect privacy. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and there's a violation of those rules and it was

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Speaker 1: done U purposefully. What what then I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if we find out that this happened under Obama's watts,

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01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: do you think there are any political consequences? I do

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Speaker 1: you think that. I don't think anyone. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone gets prosecuted over this unless they find this specific individuals.

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01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: So what do you see as the political uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: second order effects of all this. Well, at a very minimum,

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Speaker 1: this would have been a highly compartmentalized program and again

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01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: for for the rest of America, that means a very

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Speaker 1: short numbered list of people would have access to the

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Speaker 1: reporting that comes from it. Named individuals would be on

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01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: that list, and one by one you can go through

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01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: that named list identify with people who would be most

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01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: likely or I have evidence were responsible for disclosure. Uh.

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01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: Disclosure of something of this magnitude is enormous that I mean,

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01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that is very very close

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Speaker 1: to treason. Uh and uh so you know, I think

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01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 1: it's extremely serious, and I do think that there is

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01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: a lawful and oversight role to conduct that kind of investigation. Politically,

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01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: I think Manafloor coming forward me I have no idea

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Speaker 1: what his calculus is or but I'm pretty sure that

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01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: there was all smoke and no fire with regard to

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Speaker 1: the accusations. Uh. And so, I mean, there's the only

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01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: only collusion that anyone can really point to between Russia

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01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: and leaders of America is when the former president leaned

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01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: across a hot mike and told a Russian leader that

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Speaker 1: he would be more flexible after an election. That was just,

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01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: in your faith, evidence of an American leader going to

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01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: be more accommodating to the Russians if he gets passed

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01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: an election. You know, there hasn't even been any specific

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01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: to put forward about what the Trump campaign or any

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01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: of the people involved would have advocated by way of policy.

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Speaker 1: That's different. So I'm just one that you know, you've

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01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: got to see some evidence of things moving before you

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01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: can go forward with an indictment. And on mantaphor, I

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01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: think he probably feels like it's timely just come forward.

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01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: He's a reasonably intelligent, experienced guy, probably feels like he

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01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: can lay things out there clear his name. But also

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: pushed back on some of these false narratives. What do

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01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: you what would you put the the percentage of the

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01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: percentages the odds here of some truly nefarious let's say

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: it's let's let's take the president himself out of this

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01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: just for the sake of discussion, but that one of

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01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: his underlings campaign aids any of the above were involved

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01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: in something with Russia that was unseeingly with regards specifically

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01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: to the election against Hillary Clinton. Do you give this

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01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 1: a one in ten shot, fifty fifty one in a thousand?

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01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: Where where are you on that? Based on what we

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01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: know so far, I'd say it's pretty low that there

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01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 1: was anything that was substantively going to make a difference

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01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 1: on the administration. Given the number of people involved in campaigns,

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01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and the kinds of work that people do

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01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: in Washington, there's a chance, probably low that there's someone

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01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: somewhere that was under contract to try to advocate for

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01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: a particular kind of policy on behalf of a foreign government,

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01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,520
Speaker 1: and then it turns out on a campaign they're advocating

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01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: for that policy. But you know, that's not illegal as

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01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: far as I can tell. Uh that there could be

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01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: questions of propriety, and it would come down to kind

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01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: of the rules of the campaign, but there's nothing illegal

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01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: about that. I keep saying people, if if Paul man

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01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: Afford sat down across the table from I, don't you

1552
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: know let's just say the head of the FSB whatever

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, you know, with with with the sketchiest Russian operative,

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01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: one can imagine whoever that may be. And in our

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01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: hypothetical here, if the Russian says to them, you know,

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01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: we've got some things in the works that are really

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01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna mess up that, you know, Hillary campaign just you know,

1558
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: winking a nod, and Manaford just said okay, you know,

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01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: thanks and walked away. There is no federal crime that

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01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: there's no crime at all that has been committed there.

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01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: It may not, you know, it may not look very nice,

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01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: but there's no as far as I know, and I've

1563
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: even asked Andy McCarthy and others about this, who really

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01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: understand federal criminal law, there's no federal crime. There isn't.

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01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 1: And you would also be a fool to conduct yourself

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01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: assuming that someone else is going to help you win

1567
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: a campaign anyway, So you know, you'll go into these

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01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: things where, you know, if a foreign government was planning

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01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: something to influence American voters, I'd say at least nine

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01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: times at a ten, maybe ten times out of it

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01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: at a ten, American voters kind of smell it and

1572
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: recoil and it tends to backfire on those they think

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01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: it's going to help. But there's just there's just no

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01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: evidence that anyone won or lost this election other than

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01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Yeah, it's it's not even

1576
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: a good collusion plan as it's been laid out to.

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into Podesta's email account and release his

1578
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: unclassified emails, and and the Trump campaign would want to

1579
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: be involved in this given all the it's just it's

1580
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: just crazy. But so many people really believe it, and

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01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, it's it's frustrating to see this

1582
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: continued to to get all the attention that it does.

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01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: Although investigate everyone, Okay, investigate find Stephen. One more topic

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01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: I wanna hit with you before we got to go

1585
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: to a break. North Korea. A lot of headlines recently. Uh,

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01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: people are seemingly more concerned about North Korea now and

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01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: they've been in a while. What's going on here? How

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01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: much of this should we be worried about? I think

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01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: it is troubling, and I do. I think that the

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01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: current leader of North Korea is crazier and more dangerous

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01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: than his father and his grandfather were before him. He's

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01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: tested more missile enhancements than his father did. Uh. He's

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01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: developed their nuclear programs further and literally nothing the United

1594
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: States has tried and Republican or Democrat administration has changed

1595
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 1: that trajectory. Uh. It's a very very difficult one, uh

1596
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: to try to figure out how to change. And so

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01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: you've got a new administration trying new things. I'd say

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01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: this is very high on the list of prices that

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01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: could shock this administration early in his tenure. But I

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01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: don't necessarily not my hope, but I think that that

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01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,919
Speaker 1: the discussions that Secretary of Taylors and had in Beijing,

1602
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: we're trying to press the Chinese very very hard that

1603
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: the President Trump expects them to do more to influence

1604
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: their ally and if they don't, all options truly are

1605
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: on the table. You know, they doesn't want a war,

1606
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 1: doesn't want to have those kinetic options, so to speak.

1607
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: But the Chinese, you are going to have to do

1608
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: some things more profound than they contemplated in the last decade,

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01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:46,839
Speaker 1: or we're stuck with Kim Jong unprovoking US. Any military

1610
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: action though between the US and North Korea would be

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01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: that is very frightening stuff. Considering as you say, we're

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01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: dealing with a total lunatic this regime that is almost

1613
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: like something from another another planet. It's hard to believe

1614
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: that it still exists at this point in time. And

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01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: they've got a whole bunch of all kinds of the

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01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: nastiest munitions imaginable. And South Korea is right there, you

1617
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: got sold Japan within striking. This is all these different places.

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01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: It seems like Steven, there's very little likelihood that if

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01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: there was a military exchange it would be a limited

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01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: and contained affair. I agree completely, and that's why I

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01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: hope when they say all options are on the table,

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01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: they mean all options, not the worst of the worst

1623
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 1: and not the weakest of the week. But let's they

1624
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: need to be trying all of the options, intelligence, cyber, economic, diplomatic, whatever.

1625
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: Everything needs to be maximalized before it gets into one

1626
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: of those truly catastrophic categories. And hopefully we never ever

1627
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: get close to that. But with this regime, it's existed

1628
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: far longer than it ever should have, and every single

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01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: day we live with massive proliferation risk, and one day

1630
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to have their three straight

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01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: three stage missile that can reach us and reach others

1632
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: at long distance. So this has got this something a

1633
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: time does not solve and whether we like it or not,

1634
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: a new administration and our allies really have to grapple

1635
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: with this right now. Stephen Yates is chairman of the

1636
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: Idaho Republican Party and check out also what he does

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01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: on the advisory's side at d c I a advisory

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Speaker 1: dot com and a Yates d c I on Twitter. Stephen,

1639
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 1: have a great Friday. Thanks for joining us, my friend.

1640
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Thank you Buck tick here, Uh, team hitting a break

1641
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: here eight four four nine d Buck. On those phone lines,

1642
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: we can take action movie quotes, we can take serious

1643
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: analysis about national security or politics, whatever you want seem.

1644
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook poll out there that's on Facebook

1645
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 1: dot com slash buck sex and if you're not following,

1646
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: please click follower like on the page. But the question

1647
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 1: is the healthcare debacle? Well is it abaco? Is it

1648
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: a big deal? So far of team buck entries here

1649
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 1: or the votes of tallied of you say it's embarrassing.

1650
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: They had seven years to get this right, uh said no.

1651
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: Revamping the government takes time, and then about said Buck Sexton,

1652
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,799
Speaker 1: So thank you for the vote of confidence. They appreciate

1653
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: that unlikely that's gonna happen, but hey, you never know.

1654
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: We have Sterling in Wyoming on the I Heart Apple's up. Sterling. Good,

1655
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: So I have an actually movie called for you that

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01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 1: I hope it qualifies. Yeah. I love the smell in

1657
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:42,480
Speaker 1: a palm in the morning. It smells like victory Apocalypse.

1658
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 1: Now yeah, yeah, I think I think they qualifies that.

1659
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: Actually quote, great movie based on Conrad's Heart of Darkness,

1660
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: which I feel like a lot of people forget. The

1661
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: storyline is or the the way the story progresses is

1662
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: very similar Conrad's Heart of Darkness. So it's just a

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01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 1: new and updated version of that. Sometimes the old stuff

1664
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: is a great basis for an updated story. Yeah. Have

1665
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 1: you read Conrad's Hardy Darkness? Actually worth reading? It's good.

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01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out there. Loves the show, bar Hey, Michael,

1667
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: thank you so much, man shield till I have a

1668
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: great weekend. Oh, Sterling, rather pardon me, Sterling, thank you,

1669
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 1: I got my name's confused on my screeners. Thank you, Sterling.

1670
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: And now you have Michael also in Wyoming on the

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01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 1: I Heart app what's up, Michael. I'm good And just

1672
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 1: so you know, I got the I heart app solely

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01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: so that I could listen to you. That's very kind

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01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: of you, and I greatly appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Yeah,

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01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: I picked you up listening to you subns for RUSH

1676
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,879
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and I just found your critical

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01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: thinking to be without Pierre. Thank you so much. On

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01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: my point, I'm calling concerning the v A but if

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01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: there's time, also an additional question for you. Sure, sure

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01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: we have We got a few, We got a few minutes,

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01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: go ahead, excellent, Okay, So concerning the v A U.

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01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: At the time I met my wife, which was twenty

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01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: three years ago, she was a nurse manager at a

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01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: VA facility in California. UM. I met her through my

1685
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: best friend who was doing his residency on her ward.

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01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: He called me on Saturday and said, I want to

1687
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Speaker 1: come play beach volleyball with some nurses. So nobody in

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01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: her right mind's gonna say no to that. So UM

1689
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: he told me about issues where he witnessed malpractice that

1690
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: did grave harm to patients, but nothing was ever done

1691
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: about it. They would simply close the file, let the

1692
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: patient go, and not even going up their fiduciary duty

1693
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 1: of pointing it out to the patient. Um, so he

1694
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: got a wish in the v A as quickly as possible.

1695
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 1: My wife at the time was going through an issue

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Speaker 1: with her assistant manager. Her assistant manage her was a

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Speaker 1: black lady. And then, by the way, of all the

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01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: friends I've ever had that were black, not a single

1699
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: one of them has ever asked me to refer to

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01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 1: them as African American. Um. But anyway, so the lady

1701
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,799
Speaker 1: refused to do in the administrative work that my wife

1702
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: assigned to her. She would just blow it off and

1703
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 1: then you know, go and cruise the hallways and she'd

1704
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 1: do her clinical work, but she wouldn't do any of

1705
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: the administrative work. So at the end of the first

1706
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: month that she was assigned to her, my wife, UM,

1707
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: we're going a little a little into detail here that

1708
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:39,560
Speaker 1: might be beyond, you know, beyond what is useful for us.

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01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: That you got it. Okay, So my wife's supervisor informed

1710
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: her that she was going to have to pick up

1711
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: the slack because they were not going to put the

1712
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 1: astant manager on report. Okay, yeah, but I mean, how

1713
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: how does this to tell me about I see horrific care?

1714
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: Is that what I see on my screen? Here? The

1715
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: admin work doesn't translate into that. So what do we got? Oh? Um, okay,

1716
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: sorry about that. I didn't know that's what that was. Um.

1717
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: Any time anything was reported about cases, UM, my wife

1718
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: was brought in front of the board and told that

1719
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: that's none of her concern, that it was being taken

1720
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: care of by the doctor. One patient in one case

1721
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: use a lighter to try and burn a thread on

1722
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 1: his dressing, which were petroleum dressings, and he set his

1723
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 1: legs on fire. Um, they put that out. This gentleman

1724
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: came back every month as soon as he got seconds here, sir. Okay,

1725
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 1: sorry about that, Michael. Look, I appreciate you calling it.

1726
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 1: I wish we had more time to hear some of

1727
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: the details here, but unfortunately we're into our hard break.

1728
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: But thank you for calling in and team will bear

1729
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: it back. Blug Sexton with America. Now we are the

1730
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 1: free Hut is fired up as team Buck assembles shouldered

1731
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: as shoulder shields high call in eight four four nine

1732
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: hundred buck. That's eight four four nine hundred two eight

1733
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: to five. The campaign to oust isis from Mozle is

1734
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: well underway and in fact is showing some signs of

1735
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: real progress. This would be the biggest blow dealt to

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01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:28,600
Speaker 1: the Islamic States since it's blitz creg campaign into a

1737
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: rock from Syria from its strongholding rock on the surrounding

1738
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 1: areas a few years back. So what does the rest

1739
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 1: of this campaign look like and what does the administration

1740
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 1: need to do to follow through on what's going on.

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Speaker 1: We're joined by Jennifer Caferella. She's the lead intelligence planner

1742
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: at the Institute for the Study of War. Jennifer, thank

1743
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: you for calling in so I know as part of

1744
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: your part of your duties over at i s W

1745
01:36:56,360 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: you follow very closely this campaign in mosel Uh. That

1746
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 1: is what is it? Over a hundred thousand Iraqi security

1747
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 1: forces involved in this, everything from Iraqi military to Kurdish

1748
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: militia and Shia militia's and US forces providing assistance and

1749
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: air cover. Uh. First of all, if you just bring

1750
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: us up to speed on how is this going? What

1751
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: is at what stage of this fight does the Iraqi

1752
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 1: government our ally the Iraqi government find itself sure? So,

1753
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: this of course is the largest military operation in the

1754
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,480
Speaker 1: fight against ISIS thus far. It's a very complex operation

1755
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: with a lot of moving parts. UH, and certainly is

1756
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: an ambitious operation to take control of such a large

1757
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 1: city of mosal Uh from ISIS. The fight thus far

1758
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: has been incredibly difficult, but the Iraqi security forces, with

1759
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,440
Speaker 1: helps from the United States and the anti ISIS coalition,

1760
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: has made tremendous progress clearing the eastern half of the

1761
01:37:55,360 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 1: city Mosil is is bisected by UH. They buy a

1762
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 1: river and the Tigers River runs through the middle of

1763
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: the western side of it is sun a majority, So

1764
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: they're now in the Sunni air portion. Yep, so the

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01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 1: well the most the whole city, I know, sir, but

1766
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 1: it's the cards usually have more of a control in

1767
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 1: the eastern bank. Go ahead, sure, so we're now in

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01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: in western Mosil. Did new objective, of course is to

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01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 1: seize the Great Mosque of Mosil, which is the location

1770
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: where the ISIS leader declared the caliphate. So clearing that

1771
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 1: moss will be a major win for the government and

1772
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:34,520
Speaker 1: will really signal the coming end of ISIS in that city.

1773
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 1: What do we have some sense of casualty estimates in

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01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: terms of how many Islamic State fighters have been killed

1775
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 1: have been killed in this fighting? And also do you

1776
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 1: have any any updates or any sense of the the

1777
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: truth of these reports that I've just seen the last

1778
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, there may have been some air strikes

1779
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 1: where UH c ann reporting US military investigating air strikes

1780
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 1: caused nearly three hundred civilian deaths. But first, talk to

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01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: me about the ISIS casualties. Have they been about what

1782
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: was expected? Are we talking about thousands of fighters killed

1783
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: or captured? What have they found out since they entered

1784
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: the city a few months ago? I mean the sure

1785
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 1: so the number and strength of the ISIS fighting force

1786
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: in Moscow has actually surprised the coalition. We don't have

1787
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 1: specific numbers on the number of ISIS dead, but we

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01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 1: do know that thousands of ISIS members had been holding

1789
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: the city, UH three quarters of it or so are

1790
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: now recaptured. So you can imagine the reduction in isis

1791
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 1: IS fighting strength UH in terms of the air sekes.

1792
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: The coalition, of course, takes great care to avoid civilian casualties.

1793
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 1: It has been a primary focus of this military effort

1794
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,759
Speaker 1: and is in fact one of the reasons why progress

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01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: has been so deliberate in order to avoid UH that outcome.

1796
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: Of course, this is the war. It is still a battlefield.

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01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: So there have been reports that I've seen of civilian casualty,

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01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: and it does appear that the U. S Military is

1799
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 1: very closely evaluating the outcome of that straight now. One

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01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 1: of the concerns from the beginning of the effort to

1801
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,719
Speaker 1: retake Moso from the Islamic State has been the multi

1802
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: sectarian nature of the Iraqi government and Iraqi Government allied

1803
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: forces that have both secured the access routes to the

1804
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: city as well as been part of this clearing and

1805
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 1: hold operation inside the city. And people have been worried

1806
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 1: about Shia militias and their role nous from the beginning,

1807
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:31,759
Speaker 1: have we seen any signs of rising sectarian tension among

1808
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 1: the forces that are fighting against the Islamic State or

1809
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 1: so far are they playing pretty well with each other.

1810
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,799
Speaker 1: So far, the ability of these diverse forces to maintain

1811
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: their unity in this fight against ISIS has been impressive.

1812
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 1: We haven't really seen a breakdown, of course. The main

1813
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: question is what happens after the common enemy ISIS is

1814
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 1: removed from the battlefield. All these different forces, which do

1815
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 1: sometimes have competing agendas. You know, Iran back some of

1816
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: these forces and uses them as a property in the

1817
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 1: case of the Shia militias. So the question is whether

1818
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 1: that kind of infighting will really start to pick up

1819
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: after ISIS is defeated. It's certainly a main concern now

1820
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: if this operation concludes within about a month or so,

1821
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 1: which is what I see from from estimates, including from

1822
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: an I s W estimate here, and that the Iraqi

1823
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 1: government takes back the most populous and most important city

1824
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 1: that ISIS has ever had, Mosel takes it back from

1825
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: the Islamic State. It's obviously created will create some some

1826
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: momentum for the Iraqi government and this is something to

1827
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 1: be uh celebrated to some degree. But are there other

1828
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 1: areas inside Iraq that are still that still need to

1829
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 1: be cleared and held or would this be really the

1830
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 1: death knell for ISIS as an entity that can hold

1831
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: territory inside of Iraq. I mean, I know there could

1832
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 1: be insurgency elements that that stay around, but are there

1833
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 1: still villages anywhere that they really need to go into

1834
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: that are considered entirely hostile? Yep, there are still host

1835
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 1: the villages ISIS held villages. Hawijia is one area. It's

1836
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 1: southeast of Mosil, and it's actually an area from which

1837
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 1: ISIS has launched some pretty devastating attacks into Kirkuk and

1838
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 1: into Kurtish held areas, so that will need to be cleared,

1839
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: as well as areas out west uh in Anbar province.

1840
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, the Syrian border where Isis does still control

1841
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 1: large portions of southeastern Syria and some villages on the

1842
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Iraqi side of that border along the Euphrates River as well.

1843
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 1: Can you talk a bit about the effort to get

1844
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 1: closer and to wrap the noose around Isis in Rocca

1845
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 1: or is that outside of I know you handle the

1846
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: Iraqi side equations. Wonder if you can update us a

1847
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: little bit on what's happening with the Syrian side of

1848
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 1: the anti Isis fight. No, certainly I actually covered both sides. Okay,

1849
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 1: there we go, so please what's going on there? Yeah?

1850
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: So the battlefields on the Syrian side is even more complex,

1851
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 1: if you can imagine, than on the Iraqi side. The

1852
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: primary US a ground partner there. The Sery and Democratic

1853
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,600
Speaker 1: forces have just launched an ambitious new phase of the

1854
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: operation to encircle Rucca before taking the city. So the

1855
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 1: exact nature of the force that will take the city

1856
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: is still unclear. It appears the Trump administration is still

1857
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 1: considering its options. The goal for now is for the

1858
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 1: Syrian Democratic Forces to seize control of a military air

1859
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: base and a dam and hydro electric dam west of

1860
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 1: Rucca City, which is key infrastructure that ISIS holds, and

1861
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: after taking that infrastructure, the coalition will be that much

1862
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 1: more closer to setting the necessary conditions for an actual

1863
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: assault on the city. Now the Anti Isis coalition that's

1864
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: been taking back Mozilla I know. I saw estimates from

1865
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: the start of that operation were over a hundred thousand

1866
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: all in, meaning those that were also in just blocking

1867
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: mode to make sure that people couldn't come in or

1868
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: out of the area, and then the the actual clear

1869
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: and hold force inside the city itself. Do we have

1870
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:58,679
Speaker 1: an estimate, Do we have a sense of how large

1871
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 1: the Anti Isis force in Syria is or is that

1872
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: just too murky for us to get real numbers. It's

1873
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 1: a little murky at this stage. We do know that

1874
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 1: the Syrian Democratic Forces have something around forty tho fighters

1875
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 1: in all of northeastern Syria. Luck of course, is a

1876
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 1: much smaller city than Mosil, but likely to be defended

1877
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: on the same scale. And so while there are forty

1878
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: thousand ish Syrian Democratic Forces, they're not professionally trained in Iraq.

1879
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 1: We have units that the US has been helping to

1880
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 1: train since you know, the previous Iraq war UH, and

1881
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 1: that kind of military capability just doesn't exist in Syria.

1882
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 1: So it's hard to compare the numbers directly across that border.

1883
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: And what is isis next move, assuming that they lose

1884
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: MOSL in the weeks and months ahead and things get

1885
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 1: even more difficult for them to operate in Syria. Do

1886
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 1: we see a displacement of fighters already occurring? Are they

1887
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: trying to shore up a last defense not just of

1888
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 1: Roca but of some other areas inside of Syria. What

1889
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: can we expect from their side of the equation? Certainly so,

1890
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: we do expect more UH and more deadly attacks in

1891
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: western Syria as ISIS tries to see if there are

1892
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: vulnerabilities in the Syrian regimes defensive line that ISIS can

1893
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 1: push against. ISIS is also attempting to expand into Jordan's

1894
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: south of Syria, which would be highly destabilizing to the

1895
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 1: region if ISIS managed to do so. On the Iraqi side,

1896
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: the ISIS play is an insurgency, as you referenced earlier,

1897
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: but likely also a very concerted effort to spoil upcoming elections.

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Speaker 1: Iraq is supposed to hold elections in September of this year. UH.

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Speaker 1: It would it will be a very big watershed moment

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Speaker 1: if if the elections are able to occur and occur peacefully, UH,

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Speaker 1: to transition a military success into a political victory and

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Speaker 1: a political outcome. So ISIS will certainly try to prevent

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Speaker 1: that from happening. Jennifer Caperella is the lead intelligence planner

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Speaker 1: at the Institute for the Study of War. UH. You

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Speaker 1: can go check out the website and read all of

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Speaker 1: her latest at Understanding War dot org. Jennifer, thank you

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Speaker 1: for making time for us. We appreciate it. It's my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. UH, team getta hit a break, gotta close

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Speaker 1: out strong on the other side, be right back now.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to seem like a hater, but of course,

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Speaker 1: whenever you start out saying that you're probably gonna sounds

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Speaker 1: like a hater. So here I am. But I missed

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Speaker 1: this story earlier in the weekend. I was thinking, by

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Speaker 1: the way we're gonna start on Friday's also with our

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Speaker 1: action movie quotes, I think the last part of the

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Speaker 1: show we're gonna do UH. Last call for for stories,

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Speaker 1: meaning that we're going to touch on anything that I

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Speaker 1: meant to get you earlier in the week, particularly lighter

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Speaker 1: fair you know, the the snack able and uh and

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Speaker 1: easy too easy to digest news stories that are just

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Speaker 1: fun to chat about for a little bit. So this

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Speaker 1: would fall into that. So put a we'll put a

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Speaker 1: pin in that uh in in branding the segment last

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Speaker 1: call until next week, but this would be in that

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Speaker 1: general bucket. Oh stories you got Chelsea Clinton? Uh? And

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Speaker 1: this this is why you know I'm talking about igan

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Speaker 1: hater here. I look, I don't know the woman. She

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Speaker 1: could be delightful, and I don't. I'm not personally going

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Speaker 1: to trash. I don't. I try not to, at least

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Speaker 1: I'm not perfect. Obviously, I try not to trash people

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Speaker 1: that I don't know. For a lot of trying to

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Speaker 1: trash field periods is mean. But it's not a personal thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a public figure thing. There's a difference, right, So

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Speaker 1: when I say that, you know, Nancy Pelosi doesn't know anything,

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Speaker 1: it's not because I'm trying to be mean to work

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Speaker 1: because I know she's somebody's grandma. It's that she wields

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Speaker 1: a lot of power, and I think is completely in

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Speaker 1: over her head and is destructive to America. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: that's if she just decided to be Nancy Pelosi who's

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Speaker 1: super rich and lives in California and hangs out, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't still be talking about her on on the radio.

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Speaker 1: It's she's a public figure. It's not that I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to be mean about somebody's grandma. Chelsea Clinton is also

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Speaker 1: a public figure. She is not somebody who can play

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Speaker 1: the whole Oh well, I'm just you know, the the

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Speaker 1: child of famous people or because that's it's not nice

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Speaker 1: to bring people into things that they you know, when

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Speaker 1: they've done nothing themselves, but they just happen to have

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Speaker 1: famous relatives or parents. No, she she holds herself up

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Speaker 1: as a public figure. In fact, she gives speeches for

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Speaker 1: fifty a pop. She was a correspondent for what was it,

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Speaker 1: thirty not thirty Rock. That's the that's the I find

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Speaker 1: very amusing show on that used to be on NBC

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Speaker 1: with Alec Baldwin, whose politics are terrible. He's a very

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Speaker 1: talented actor. Though uh Tina Fey wrote that show I

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Speaker 1: Forgot a Rock Rock Center. I think it was called

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Speaker 1: something like that. She's paid six thousand dollars for like

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Speaker 1: thirty thirty total minutes of on air work, which is

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Speaker 1: somebody who does three hours of radio night. I have

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Speaker 1: to tell you that would be pretty awesome. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: that's not how it goes in this business. But she's yeah,

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Speaker 1: she made the six Centergram for those thirty minutes. And

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Speaker 1: now there is a report earlier in the week, and

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Speaker 1: this is where me not being a hater comes in.

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Speaker 1: Or she was going to be honored with a Originally

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Speaker 1: it was reported as a Lifetime Achievement award from Variety magazine. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it turns out it's not a Lifetime Achievement award. It's

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Speaker 1: an Impact Award from Variety in partnership with Lifetime. Now

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Speaker 1: she's vice chairman of the I don't like this thing

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Speaker 1: where people say your vice chair because the chair is

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Speaker 1: an object, not a person. So your other chairman or

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Speaker 1: a chairwoman or what. But he was like, oh, he's

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Speaker 1: the chair of you know, he's the chair of women

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Speaker 1: in Gender Studies at such and such university. Can't we

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Speaker 1: just say chairman? Were just we just accept that. It's

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Speaker 1: not not a big deal. Everybody, I know, you accept it,

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Speaker 1: but you know, the social justice warriors freaked out about everything.

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Speaker 1: So she's she's getting this award. And this is where

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Speaker 1: I start to have a tough time with all this um.

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Speaker 1: You can be the fild of very powerful people and

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Speaker 1: that makes you famous, and you can and of course

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Speaker 1: we live in a capitalist society, they can also make

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Speaker 1: you very wealthy. You can inherit a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: And that's all fine. But when I'm being told by

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Speaker 1: the media that I'm also supposed to stand up and

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Speaker 1: not necessarily literally, but sometimes literally stand up and clap

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Speaker 1: for the great accomplishments of the hyper privileged from my

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Speaker 1: own generation, no less, who have never had to work

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Speaker 1: a real day in their lives, who have never had

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Speaker 1: to actually sweat it out, who have never had the

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Speaker 1: experience of showing up to do a job they did

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Speaker 1: not want to do, where nobody cared that they were there,

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Speaker 1: where they could be replaced, and they and it was

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Speaker 1: constantly made known to them they could be replaced on

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Speaker 1: a moment's whim. And if they didn't have the job,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have a way of paying their rent. Uh,

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Speaker 1: That's not ever been Chelsea Clinton's reality. She went to

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Speaker 1: a lot of different schools, which is fine, but as

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Speaker 1: we know, especially with some of the fancier schools, if

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Speaker 1: you have a famous last name, it just turns into

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Speaker 1: a long version and expensive version of finishing school. So

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Speaker 1: you just get to be a perpetual student. But say

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Speaker 1: you're at you know, Stanford or Harvard or wherever, and

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Speaker 1: not do any real study of consequence beyond just an

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Speaker 1: extended liberal arts education. Um, but it sounds cool at

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Speaker 1: cocktail parties, and it gives you degrees, and degrees, especially

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Speaker 1: in the social sciences, are supposed to confer legitimacy and gravitas.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's almost always very overstated. Most of

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Speaker 1: these master's degrees that people get, especially in things like

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Speaker 1: politics or uh international relations or any of this journalism,

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Speaker 1: social studies or whatever they call it, is just an

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Speaker 1: expensive way of having your parents, uh, you know, keep

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Speaker 1: you occupied for a while and let everyone tell, let

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Speaker 1: everyone think that you're doing something worth while. Um. But

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Speaker 1: it's okay to me that Chelsea Clinton is the do

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Speaker 1: you know, it's fine. She's the daughter of of very

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Speaker 1: famous people, very famous and formally very powerful people, not

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Speaker 1: not as powerful anymore. But I just it's not okay

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Speaker 1: it begins to just burn and annoy and irritate a

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Speaker 1: little too much when I'm told that, you know, she's

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Speaker 1: done all these great things, you know, working for mummy

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Speaker 1: and Daddy's charity that's not even really a charity, it's

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Speaker 1: an influenced peddling scheme. Is not something that I'm about

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Speaker 1: to stand around and say, wow, that's really great. And

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Speaker 1: in fact, if you're going to be a part of that,

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Speaker 1: then I think you also have to be a part

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Speaker 1: that this charity is not really about helping anyone, and

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Speaker 1: it's really about helping the Clinton's first and foremost, and

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Speaker 1: that there's this award given out that this is just

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Speaker 1: where I get on my little soapbox here. I do

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Speaker 1: not like nepotism and politics, and I know we could

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Speaker 1: start to point out examples of it on the Republican

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Speaker 1: side too. I'm well aware I do not like this,

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Speaker 1: and it just shows you how far the celebrity culture

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Speaker 1: goes in this country now, where even being related to

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Speaker 1: somebody who has a cult of personality of one kind

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Speaker 1: or another is enough that some people think you should

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Speaker 1: have that that you should be given power and entrusted

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Speaker 1: with major responsibility. Uh, Chelsea Clinton maybe a lovely person

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Speaker 1: and a wonderful mom and all that. I have no idea,

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Speaker 1: But as a public figure, she has done nothing. She's

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Speaker 1: done nothing except enrich herself and do so in a

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Speaker 1: way that I don't I don't see why there's any

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Speaker 1: award or any reason that we have to pretend that

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Speaker 1: this is worthy of of great achievement or anything else.

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Speaker 1: And it's just too much. You see it a lot

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Speaker 1: with with my generation, to people in their thirties and

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Speaker 1: forties who have famous and rich mummy and daddy. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they want us all the clap for them too and

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Speaker 1: act like they've done a lot, and most the time

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Speaker 1: they haven't. So Chelsea not not getting a lifetime achieve

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Speaker 1: an award from Buck that much? That much, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you, or whatever impact award? What does it even mean?

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Speaker 1: What does it mean? Uh? Download the podcast please Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton with America now on iTunes. Please subscribe if you

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Speaker 1: have not already. Share with a friend. Tells the people

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Speaker 1: about the show and tell them to download the I

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