1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: for our enemies because we're going to medieval. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: On these people. There's not got a free shot. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: All these networks lying about the people, the people have 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: had a belly full of it. I know you don't 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: like hearing that. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: I know you've tried to do everything in the world 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. And where do people like that 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: go to share the big line? 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Mega media? 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: these people had a conscience. 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: If that answer is to save my country, this country 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 3: will be saved. 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Or use your host, Stephen Can. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: It's Friday, seven March in the year vil Lord, twenty 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: twenty five. Thank you for being here for the second 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: hour of the morning show. History being made once again, 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: and Trump is going to open up to a press 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: a veil momentarily. 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: Our own Brian Glenn. 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Is with the camera crew and they're going to be 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: in the They're gonna be I think it's gonna take place. 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: In the Oval. 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: We don't know the topics yet, but I believe that 28 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: it was clearly mentioned something that's going on all the 29 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: reportings coming out with Doje and Elon Musk. I'm sure 30 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: they'll address that. Also, I'm sure the President's going to 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: talk about the cr We just had Chip Roy from 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: the White House, so they had a morning meeting. I'm 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: sure he's going to talk about that and what he's 34 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: looking for, So we'll check that box. Also, I believe 35 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: he's going to say something about nine thousand auto jobs 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: created already on his watch. I think surely they're going 37 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: to mention that, and then I think I'd be very 38 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: surprised he didn't mention this truth socially just put up 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: about Russia's kinetic activity overnight in Ukraine. Look, President Trumps, 40 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: I tell you one of his best sayings when you're 41 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: around him is no games, and particularly here this is 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I think it falls into the Zelensky last week, no 43 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: games a week ago. And also with the Russians, they're 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: trying to work, as I told you, a rapprocheman, but 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: the Russians are quite tough and last night I think 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: you saw pounding that President Trump and his true social 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: just not prepared to tolerate he's given the Muslim Brotherhood 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: franchise e in Gaza. 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: He's put them on the clock and said. 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: Yo, you don't have all the hostas dead or alive 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: turned over, so we can count them up. 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 2: All hell's going to break loose. 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: And they have a new IDF chief of staff, a 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: pretty tough ombra that said his first address to the 55 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: country of Israel says, twenty twenty five is going to 56 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: be the year of war. 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: So get ready. 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: The worlds on the brink were already deep into the 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: kinetic part of the Third World War. All these people said, well, 60 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to avoid the Third You ain't 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: trying to avoid the Third World War. From nineteen thirty nine, 62 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: the invasion of Poland to June of nineteen forty one, 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: the invasion the Verrymacht and the invasion of Russia, Operation Barbarossa. 64 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: If you take those couple of years, there is I think, 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't know ten times the killing's taking place in 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: Ukraine and in Israel that took place Poland, the fall 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: of France, the blitz over the Battle of Britain, the 68 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: Blitz over London. You know, I'll throw in some raids 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: in France, take North Africa, you roll it all up. 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: It pales in comparison to the casualties you have. And 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: quite frankly, the destruction parts of Ukraine look like Dresden 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty five. You're in a kinetic war right now. 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: That's every bit is dangerous and every bit is brutal, 74 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: if not more brutal than the opening phase of World 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: War Two. John Legner says, providential that we had John schedule. 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I had a chance to read this book in galleys 77 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: and give it to people that kind of worked this 78 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: that this is their line of country, and everybody was kind. 79 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: Of blown away by the book. 80 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: It's called death Is Our business is about the kind 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: of mercenary, the new Russian way of war. So John, 82 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: walk us through first off, your experience in doing this. 83 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: You've kind of dedicated your life. 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: You're a guy that I don't know gets an adrenaline, 85 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Russia being some pretty bad neighborhoods. So walk us through 86 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: kind of your background what led you to this topic. 87 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Before we get into the meet and substance, I want 88 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: to put out your curriculum vita on this, sir. 89 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: Oh well, thank you and thank you for having me 90 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: on the show. You know, I think it came off 91 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: in the book that well, I mean kind of like you. 92 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: I had a career for a little while in investment banking, 93 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: but my true passion was always for languages and linguistics 94 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 4: and traveling the world. I had spent some time living 95 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: in Russia, I spoke Russian, still speak Russian fluently, and 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: I've been spending a lot of time traveling in Africa. 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: And when I decided I wanted to become a writer, 98 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 4: it was right around the time that this Wagner Group, 99 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: well what was still very kind of a mysterious band 100 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: of Russian mercenaries, was touching down in the Central African Republic. 101 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: And this was in twenty eighteen, and so in twenty 102 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: nineteen I decide I have to go there for myself and. 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 5: See what's happening. 104 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: And you know, I touched down, and I started making 105 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: contacts and started traveling around the country, and you know, 106 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: relatively soon I knew that, you know, there was a 107 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: book to be written about it, and so I followed 108 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 4: Wagner Group from. 109 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: Ukraine to Syria. 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: Central African Republic was in Mali, Libya, you know, really 111 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 4: wherever they were getting interviews with them and with all 112 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 4: the different armed groups in armies that are fighting against 113 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 4: them too. 114 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: What is the wonder up? 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: Let's go back that did these things kind of appear 116 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: because when the Soviet Union collapsed that you had this 117 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: massive red arm army and the whole nation had kind 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: of been on war footing for years. He had this 119 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: massive infrastructure, and they couldn't pay for it. I mean, 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: what we've seen in Ukraine and I keep telling people, hey, 121 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: this Ian Bremmer told me the they either eight hundred 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: thousand dead or wounded Russian troops in. 123 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: This war, which is mind boggling number. 124 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: And you know when I was in c duty, you know, 125 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: our mission was Soviet submarines, Russian submarines and come back 126 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: to the Pentagon. Everything was about the folded gap, the North 127 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: German plane. I mean, these guys had a We actually 128 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: had to ford deploy tactical nuclear weapons and pursing missiles 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: that cause a firestorm with President Reagan and Thatcher back 130 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: in the eighties, just to make sure we could defend it. 131 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: That's not the army you see today with the Wagner 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: group and these other mercenary groups, where they because people 133 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: troops soldiers, officers saw a way to make a living 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: since they weren't going to be employed really by the 135 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: Red Army. And moreby, how did this whole thing of 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: these mercenary groups led by these Russians even come about? 137 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean it's great that you center kind 138 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: of that that post Soviet experience right after the collapse 139 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: of the Soviet Union, because that kind of solves the 140 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: the supply end of creating a private military company or 141 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: a PMC. 142 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: There are a lot of Russians and citizens of the former. 143 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: Soviet Union who who have military experience and you know, 144 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: are out of work or there's not you know, if 145 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: they're under employed. And these are the skill sets that 146 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: they have in Russia itself. 147 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: And hold on, hold on, hang on. 148 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure, by the way, we 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: are as soon as the president walks in the oval, 150 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: we are going to go live. 151 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: John. 152 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: But their skill set is killing people. I mean, these 153 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: guys you read this book. I mean this is pretty 154 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: savage right there. Their skill set. Because I keep telling, 155 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: we don't teach World War two right. World War two. 156 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Our allies are the Russian people. The Bolsheviks are horrible, 157 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Stalin's horrible but if you want to read are at 158 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: a different scale than we fought in the West, as 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: brutal as the war in the West and the Pacific. 160 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: They're horrible, But you want to read something that's. 161 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: Almost unhuman, it's the war, it's Operation Barbarossa. 162 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: Right, and so it's from that lineage. 163 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: These guys are not playing by the Marquis of Queensbury's rules. 164 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: They don't believe in the Geneva Convention. These are essentially savages. 165 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Am I incorrect? 166 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: Well, I mean there's a great section of the book 167 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: right where Progosion decides he's going to take bak Move 168 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: from the Ukrainians, kind of a middle sized city in Ukraine. 169 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: The Ukrainian army decides they're going to defend it, and 170 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: so Progosians method for taking Bak Move from the Ukrainians 171 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: it's just old school Soviet style. He gets permission to 172 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: go to Russia's entire prison system. He visits all of 173 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: the prisons and he shows up and he says, I 174 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: have an offer for you. You fight for me for 175 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: six months and bachmut and you survive, then you go free. 176 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: Your criminal record is expunged. And he says, just like 177 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: you said. He says very directly to the prisoners, and 178 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 4: he was a prisoner himself, so he speaks their language. 179 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: He says, my losses are worse than Stalingrad. If you 180 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: show up on the front and you decide this isn't 181 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: what you signed up for, you'll be shot on site. 182 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: If you try to dessert, you'll be shot on site. 183 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 4: And he uses the exact language that Stalin used when 184 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: he was creating what were effectively penal battalions of people 185 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: who had fallen a foul of the Bolsheviks, which was 186 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: pretty much anybody during Stalin's time. They formed these penal 187 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: units and they would throw them into the harriest part 188 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 4: of whatever fight against the Germans, and the goal of. 189 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 5: It, as they said, was. 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: To atone for their sins with blood. And that was 191 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: the exact language that showed up on the contracts that 192 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: these prisoners were signing to go to the front. 193 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: How did you I want to get to more of 194 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: the story about I want to give it all away 195 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: because I want people to read this book. I want 196 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: people to read this book because it's a wake up call. Look, 197 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: they asked me on British TV the other day, I'm 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: talking about the Russian rap pressure around. They said, you oh, 199 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: because I was all over Zelensky and they said, you know, 200 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I called him a punk and a crook, And they go, oh, 201 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: you trust Putin. I go, no, I don't trust Putin. 202 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: Putin's KGB. He's the last guy in the world. I 203 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: trust him less than of Zelensky. But I said, uh, 204 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Runston Churchill partnered with Stalin and FDR too. 205 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: They didn't trust. 206 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: Some of these are bad guys, but sometimes you got 207 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: to partner with bad guys. But how did you get 208 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: the detail? The book kind of reads like a novel. 209 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: So how did you get all the insights, the conversations 210 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: and it spread over a battlefield that's pretty much. 211 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: I mean from Africa to Eurasia. 212 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: You've got both strategy and you've got the brutality of 213 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: what these. 214 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Guys do for a living. How did you how did 215 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: you get all that? 216 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: Well? 217 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: Look, I mean that was the toughest part. 218 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: I mean getting the information also was offbviously difficult. I 219 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: mean I took, you know, as they're detailed in the book. 220 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 5: I took a number of risks. I just went to 221 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 5: these war. 222 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 4: Zones and I, you know, found the numbers of some 223 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: of these guys, and I called them up and I 224 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: met with them and interviewed them, and you know, I 225 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 4: think they at first they were curious, why is the 226 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: Russian speaking American here in the middle of the Central 227 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: African Republic. I'm sure they thought that I was intelligence. 228 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: But you know, curiosity can often get the best of you. 229 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: And you know, I just made an effort over the 230 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: long term to get their stories. 231 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 5: And I interviewed for the book probably. 232 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: About forty guys in Wagner who were either fighters or 233 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: executives or affiliates of the founder of Guiney Progosion. But 234 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: so it took a lot of being on the ground 235 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: in these war zones to collect kind of the stories. 236 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: And then it took even even longer kind of sitting 237 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: there trying to think about, like you said, how do 238 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: you craft a narrative that brings together how Russia works, 239 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: how these African societies work, how complex these civil wars 240 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: are that Wagner is intervening in. 241 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 5: And these, I mean. 242 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: Are some of the biggest wars that are happening today Ukraine, Syria, 243 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 4: the Sahel, Libya, And so, you know, it took a 244 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: lot of research, and it took a lot of time 245 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: to figure out a way to take the reader through 246 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: it in a way that is also engaging and. 247 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 5: Accessible to a general audience. 248 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: Go back to that point. It's a great point. I'm 249 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: going to make sure this audience fully understands it. The 250 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: scale of conflict in the world today. This is why 251 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm such a huge believer in Trump, and Trump is 252 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: trying to hammer swords in the plowshares both Ukraine, the 253 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: Middle East, China. But give the audience a second. We 254 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: got about ninety seconds in this break. We'll hold you 255 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: through the break about the scale of conflict that's going 256 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: on in the world today. 257 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: Sir, Yeah, it's I mean, it's at the highest scale 258 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: I think probably as you said, since since going back 259 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: too close to the World War two, to some of 260 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: the early days of the Cold War. I mean, I 261 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: think we have probably you know, the tally is about 262 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: one hundred million refugees right now in the world today. 263 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: You have a full scale state to state conflict between 264 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: two you know, two very kind of serious nation states 265 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: in Russia and in Ukraine. And as you mentioned, you know, 266 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: the losses there are are staggering. Syria continues to be 267 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: an area where we don't know it. Just earlier today 268 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: there there has been a kind of a minor insurgency 269 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: and this is across the Middle East and North Africa 270 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: that we see continued procarity and instability, and the conditions 271 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: in the world today point towards more, not less conflict. 272 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 5: In our Respeatia. 273 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: This is the point, John Hanger. For one second, John Leckner, 274 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: death is our business. It's a inside view with a 275 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: great strategic overview of modern warfare, and it's brutal. You 276 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: won't totally understand what President Trump that what he's trying 277 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: to accomplish, until you understand the raw, just viciousness of 278 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: what is out there. I'm not so sure that people 279 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: in Europe understand it. I really don't. I don't think 280 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: they fully grasp what's happening in Ukraine. I just don't. 281 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Certainly in the United States, the MAGA movement so many veterans. 282 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break. John Leckner is 283 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: going to. 284 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: Be with us. 285 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: If President Trump comes the Oval. We'll cut right away back. 286 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 5: Of the. 287 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 6: America. 288 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: Use your host, Stephen K. 289 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: Bab okay As on Q Ladies and Gentlemen, Kobe Yasi 290 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: is reporting right now the President Trump is going to 291 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: focus on the job's report, and like I said, I 292 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: don't think they've done a great job in selling how 293 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: good of news. President Trump already is having this job report, 294 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be some choppy water, but like I said, 295 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: there's nine thousand auto jobs. So President Trump the primary 296 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: purpose is going to start with the job's report. But 297 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: since we have John Leckner here and he's given us 298 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: the really the details of how the Russian army really fights, 299 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: bically his mercenary army, and I told you that overnight 300 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: the Russians pound at Ukraine. And President Trump's kind of said, hey, 301 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: I want a standdown. This is why Silenski come and 302 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: asked the security guarancies. I don't want to hear it. 303 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: I want to see a stand down. Don't don't be 304 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: asking me for security guarantee. That's way he threw him out. 305 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he was very happy last night because 306 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: he's working. He's got team in Saudi Raby, he's got 307 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: witcough on it. Wikoff's guy. He's the tip of the 308 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: spear in this thing. Steve Wikoff good Man, very close 309 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: to Trump for decades. They're trying to work this thing 310 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: out and they get pounded last night. Like I said, 311 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: Trump is a no games guy. Don't play games with me. 312 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Reporting now from Bloomberg that Russia is willing to discuss 313 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: a temporary cease fire with Ukraine provide this progress to 314 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: our final peace settlement. Per Bloomberg headline. Putin ready to 315 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: agree Kine Ukraine truce with conditions. So I think we're 316 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: haing some big movement on that today and over the 317 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: weekend we'll be on it twenty for seven. Leckner, I 318 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: want to step back for a second, because this is 319 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: not taught in the West. 320 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: Is one of the big. 321 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: And we tried to do it in the show, and 322 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't trust the KGB. 323 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: Putin. 324 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: I spent my youth as a Navy junior navalpicer on destroyer. 325 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: Our entire mission was hunting and protecting the carrying battlegroups 326 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: from fast attacks submarines. Spent three four years in the Pentagon. 327 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: The whole time there was on Russia. But I've learned 328 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: that people have not been taught World War two appropriately. 329 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: When the Russian people think of war or when these 330 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: kind of guys like these Wagner group guys what there men, 331 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: they're thinking about war is quite different than Hollywood's in America, 332 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: and what we think about, you know, saving Private Ryan 333 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: and all the movies and the and and how we 334 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: think of D Day and other things. Give me your 335 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: understanding of the Russians people thinking when they think of 336 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: conflict and they think of war, Sir. 337 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think, well, there are two big differences, 338 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: and I think that you can point out one that 339 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 4: the Russians have a much higher tolerance for casualties on 340 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: their own side, and so they can get into a 341 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: war for attrition. I mean during World War Two, you know, 342 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: I think, if I remember correctly, the rate was that 343 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: the Soviets would only pull back from a position fighting 344 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 4: against the Germans if they had lost sixty percent of 345 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: their force. And so you know, they throw in one 346 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: hundred guys, they only pull back and retreat if. 347 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 5: After sixty or so have died. 348 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: And so I mean these kind of tactics that they 349 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: often use, and we were talking about the human wave 350 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: tactics in bak Moot that Wagner was using. I mean, 351 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: it's just it's brutal, it's inefficient, but they do it 352 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: for a reason. It's also effective over time. And so 353 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: in bak Moot, the Russians, for example, were taking probably 354 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: four casualties or four people killed for every one Ukrainian. 355 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: But they consider that to be to their advantag because 356 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: the guys that Wagner was thrown into the fight, as 357 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 4: we mentioned, they were convicts, they were prisoners. These were 358 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 4: the people that society didn't need. And the Ukrainians they 359 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: were losing less guys, but the guys that they were 360 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: losing were some of their most experienced, talented fighters. And 361 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: so for anybody goes Wagner's founder for the Kremlin, this 362 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 4: was this was a ratio that made sense, and there's 363 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: a long tradition. 364 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: I want to go back to Yeah, hey, I want 365 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: to go back to bog Mout because it was bag 366 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: in twenty two or twenty three. 367 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: It was like six or eight weeks. 368 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: Every day on the show we would give an update 369 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: because it's basically a crossroads, but it's essentially leads to 370 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: a place. But it's not like Kiev, you're not. It's 371 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: not a siege of a major town. It's kind of 372 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: a crossroads. But every day, I think for six or 373 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: eight or ten weeks, it was like World War one. 374 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean they pounded it every day and they were relentless. 375 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: What was the thinking when they think of a place 376 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: like bag Mout. 377 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 4: I mean, we can get we can get into this. 378 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: I think, you know, a war can create, uh can 379 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: create significance. 380 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 5: Right and and so like you. 381 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: Said, Bachmut itself, it's a small city. It's not it's 382 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: not the capital Kiev. But uh, what what happened basically 383 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: was that both Wagner's boundary of Guinea Pegosian promised to 384 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 4: deliver this victory to to Putin and the Russians hadn't 385 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: had a lot of major victories by by that point. 386 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: So Bakmut starts to gain significance for the Russians, and 387 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: President Zelenski also decides that that the Ukrainians are going 388 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 4: to defend bach Mood, despite the fact that again it's 389 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 4: not strategically significant, and it's actually in a position that 390 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: is uh geograt in terms of the terrain, is is 391 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: actually at a disadvantage to the Ukrainians, just kind of 392 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 4: located at the bottom of some hills on either side side, 393 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: and so it wasn't a good position for the Ukrainians 394 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: to be in. But the decision was made that somehow 395 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: buck Moot became sort of a bell weather for the 396 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: war itself at that point, like you said, everyone was 397 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: covering it every day, and you know, whether the Russians 398 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: or the Ukrainians were pushing forward. 399 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 5: Kind of became. 400 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: A way to measure how the war was going itself, 401 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: and so it took on far more significance than the 402 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: city or the position itself actually deserved. And like you said, 403 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: it was just a brutal fight of the Russians using 404 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: human wave tactics, throwing guys out of the trenches. 405 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: You know, eight out of ten. 406 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: Could be killed, but two jump into the Ukrainian trenches 407 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 4: and get one or two guys and just constant, just constant. 408 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 4: They call it in Russian the meat grinder, and I mean, 409 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 4: I think it's a pretty app name for. 410 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 2: Now. But then you see the parents. 411 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: I've said, the most rational people in this entire tragedy 412 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: have been the parents of young men and women eighteen 413 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: to twenty six years old. They just said, how many 414 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: times they put up in the legislatures, go, no way, 415 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: We're not sending our kids into the meat grinder, because 416 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: we see how brutal this thing is, and we see 417 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: how these mercenaries that fight for the Russians and the 418 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: prisoners are. They're at another level and we don't want 419 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: our kids to basically down in the bowf Is that 420 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: what happened essentially in Ukraine. 421 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: I mean it's difficult because you know, for the Ukrainians 422 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: it is existential, and I think that there are you know, 423 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: there are plenty of there are plenty of kind of 424 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: criticisms that can be made at a tactical level like 425 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 4: bach Mout, But I think overall there is still widespread 426 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: support for the soldiers on the front line and a 427 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: lot of gripe being kind of in the background about 428 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: you know, these type of situations that are happening and 429 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 4: how some of the generals are using the Ukrainian people 430 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: as resources. But it's a difficult position, I think for 431 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: the families also to be in, because you can disagree 432 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: with the tactics while also kind of agreeing to the 433 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: overall strategy or the need to defend because like you 434 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 4: said too, I mean, the Russians are brutal. 435 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much away because I 436 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: want people read the book, and the book is a 437 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: wake up call. I think the people in the Ied 438 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: States to say, hey, this is what the world's really like, right. 439 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: And I think it's particularly important for veterans and families 440 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: of people in the arm service and go in the 441 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Armed services to read this and understand what your kids 442 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: are really signing up for, right, because this thing is brutal. 443 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: I want to go what led these guys to believe 444 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: they were like the Pratorian Guard? What led to this 445 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: incident where they actually thought that they become you know, 446 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: they were so good or somehow it was miscommunicate what 447 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: was going on that eventually they marched on they actually 448 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: turned on Putin himself, or looked like it turned on Putin. 449 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: We didn't, I mean even the time, we didn't know 450 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: if it was a fake, it was a misdirection play. 451 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: What's your sense of that. Did they just get ahead 452 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: of themselves? Do they just think that they were like 453 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: the Pretorian Garden they could determine who runs Russia? 454 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: Sir? 455 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a great question because the other 456 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 4: reason why I think this book is important for readers 457 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: is to introduce people to some of the Russians other 458 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: than Putin right, who are in Russia and show that 459 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: there are plenty of Russians working within Putin's system who 460 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: are incredibly ambitious, often act independently, rashly, and can sort 461 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 4: of fall out of the Kremlin's control you. 462 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 5: Have get any provotion. 463 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: As he kind of comes out in the book, this 464 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: is a guy who went from an ex con himself 465 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: to a contrac actor for the military to eventual founder 466 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: of this mercenary army, and his ambition and his ego 467 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: were essentially limitless. But he was operating in a system 468 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: where you can really take some gambles and you can 469 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: really put your neck out on the line, kind of 470 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: basically saying, I'm furthering Russia's national interests. But if those 471 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 4: interests shift or the strategy shifts, then you're going to 472 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: be hung out to dry. And it's a dangerous position 473 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: to be in and have Danny provision. He made a 474 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 4: lot of enemies over the years, especially with his ambition 475 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: and his very uncouth and brash ways of doing things. 476 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 4: And so really the crisis came when the Ministry of 477 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: Defense decided they were going to cut off the Getty 478 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: promotion from this prison population, which he needed to deliver 479 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 4: bachmod as a victory to Progosi, and then the Ministry 480 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: of Defense went further and they said, actually, all Russians 481 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: fighting in Ukraine right now have to sign a new 482 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: contract with the Ministry of Defense. And so Progoson was 483 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 4: about to lose all of all of these thousands of 484 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 4: Wagner fighters, which he understood and even said made him 485 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 4: a political force on the domestic scene. 486 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 5: And I think that's ultimately what you know. 487 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: I think his decision was, Yeah, it's either I die 488 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: tomorrow or very much from that. 489 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, hang on for one second. 490 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: We'll take a short break, heavy back like the. 491 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: Roman legions, right one of the head of the one 492 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: of the head of the legions in Persia to say, hey, 493 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: I've had a pretty good run. Maybe I've turned this 494 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: wagon around. We're head towards Rome. See how it turns out. 495 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: Short commercial break. We are going to go to the 496 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: Oval Office with President Trump as soon as the cameras 497 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: come on, with our own Brian Glenn John Leckner getting 498 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: a wake up call, folks, short break back in the moment, 499 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: who Stephen K Birch Gold dot Com slash band, end 500 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: of the Dollar Empire. You get all five free installments 501 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: about debt deficit, all of it to teach you the 502 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: nomenclature and to kind of put you in how to 503 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: think about capital markets. 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As soon 525 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: as it's ready in the Oval office is going to 526 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: write to that. Our own Brian Glinn is there, and 527 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: I believe we have our own camera guy the other day. 528 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a red letter day, Real America's 529 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: Voice and Natalie's going to join us from the White 530 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: House in the five o'clock era, John, where do people go? 531 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: We can tell us a lot of interest in the 532 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: audience on this. Where do people go to get the book? 533 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: And are you doing any book signings? You're going to 534 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: be anywhere that people can go hear you talk or 535 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: are you doing a podcast with anybody that's set up? 536 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: People want to know more information about this? 537 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? 538 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Well, I mean the book is available in any 539 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 4: any good stores Barnes and doll, Mob Books a Million, 540 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: or any other great sore in your town. You can 541 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: also buy the book obviously on Amazon and any other 542 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 4: online retailer as well. It's with Bloomsbery Publishing, and I 543 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: have a book signing tonight at Politics and Pros here 544 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: in DC. 545 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 5: We're planning a few more that I. 546 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: Can keep the audience updated with on John lecknerauthor dot com. 547 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: Perfect in Politics are pro the book signing is at 548 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: what time? 549 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 5: Seven pm? 550 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: Seven pm? Okay, note to war and Posse. It's probably 551 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: it used to be in the old days before I 552 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: It used to be in the old days where I 553 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: took on this line of work at President Trump. My 554 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: favorite bookstore in Washington, D C. And probably one of 555 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: my favorite in the country. Let's say I don't frequent 556 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: it as much as I used to. Please, if you 557 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: go see Lectron Knight, do not and I repeat, do 558 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: not wear your mega ballcap. 559 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: Just go in. You go in undercover. Pretend you're in 560 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: Wagner group. 561 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 5: That don't even worry. 562 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Ye exactly, Okay, like like hold it, Lener said Legner, 563 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: say he's going to give you cover. So where where 564 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: are your where are your maga? Cat walk up to 565 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Lecner and say, hey, I'm here because I heard you 566 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: on the I heard you in the war Room. So 567 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: seven pm to night, Politics and pros and folks. If 568 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: you haven't been there, it's a fabulous bookstore, particularly like politics, history, 569 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: all of it. 570 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: It's it's amazing. 571 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: And these author they they they have very prominent people 572 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: show up to give talks. So John, that's pretty important. Uh, 573 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: at least what the establishments telling you is that they 574 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: they love the uh, they love the books. Anyway, look 575 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: forward to have a success tonight Politics and Pros at 576 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: seven in out on Connecticut Avenue, and look. 577 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: Forward to having you be sir. 578 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 5: Thank you, thanks for having me. 579 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: Let's go over to his website now you can explore 580 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: more about Extraordinary Guy the tales of these and. 581 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: This is what reality is. 582 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: First off, it's one of the realities that the young 583 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: men and women that go into the service to the 584 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: American in Africa and the Middle East. I mean, this 585 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: is one of the reasons that these experiences come back. 586 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: And this is Hey, the whole thing with the VA, 587 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: what's going to happen to it? The restruction of the VA. 588 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: It's got to be talked about. I mean, this announcement, 589 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: you're just getting rid of eighty thousand people. I realize 590 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: the VAS now four and fifty or five front of 591 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: post COVID. It's really got to be thought through because 592 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: just read this book and you'll see what You'll see 593 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: what people are up against because it is the Wagner 594 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: guys are that mercenary army is very much what's happening 595 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: in very much happening in Russia in many elements. The 596 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: other part of the books is quite good is that 597 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: when President Trump negotiates with Putin, the reality is that 598 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: there's a little bit like the Roman Republic or Roman Empire, 599 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: and that there's different kind of power centers, and a 600 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: lot of power centers are really driven by ability, and 601 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: particularly guys to think, hey, I've got troops, I got weapons. 602 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, we're not we don't actually live in a democracy. 603 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, maybe I can make my move now. So 604 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: it's a it's a very fluid situation over there as 605 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: president of Like I said, Putin has announced he's prepared 606 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: for a ceasefire. I think President Trump sending a message, 607 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: not just publicly, but I'm shore on back channels that 608 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: he's just not going to sit there. He's not gonna 609 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: be happy with uh, He's not gonna be happy with 610 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: games being played. The whole world's got a lot of 611 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: a line here. President Trump is going out of his way, 612 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: and so many times he talks about the casualties from Ukraine, 613 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: he talks about the casualties in Russia, and look the 614 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: Ukraine numbers, you know, because they're trying to hide exactly 615 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: how bad it's been President Trump says, up to a 616 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: million dead and wounded. I do know because I talked 617 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: to Ian Bremmer, and Ian's a guy that will get 618 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: down to the number. Ian told me flat out the 619 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: Russians are eight hundred thousand dead or one that which 620 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: is it's a stunning number in three years. You understand 621 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: why if you read the book, death is our business, because, 622 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: like I said, this is a dramatic scene when the 623 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: head guy goes the Wagner guy goes to the prisons, 624 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: him having been a prisoner before, and he says, hey, look, 625 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: this is gonna be like Stalingrad. But you're either going 626 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: to spend the rest of your life in prison or 627 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: ten or twenty years are some of you guys are 628 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: going to die here or I'll give you a shot. 629 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: If you make it through, you're free. Now. It's unlikely 630 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: you're going to. 631 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: Get through, but at least you die out there as 632 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: a warrior instead of dying here as a slave. It's 633 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: pretty powerful. He gets, He gets a lot of sign ups. 634 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: That's how nice Russian prison is. It's a different world 635 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: and we have to understand, and this is why it 636 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: obsessed me so much. 637 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: The elites in this country are prepared. 638 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean, right now on the Romanian Ukraine border, you 639 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: have a brigade of one hundred first Airborne. 640 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: I mean that could be mo unless she went to 641 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: a rack. 642 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: But you know, this is sons and daughters of everyday Americans, 643 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: and they signed up for it. 644 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: They're not wanting, they're not bitching. This is what they 645 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: want to do. This is what they signed up to do. 646 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: But read the book and to see what we're putting 647 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: our kids. 648 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: In the middle of. 649 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: And there's no need to do this. It's ridiculous. People 650 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: are making money off this. The European you know, the 651 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: Europeans are talking. They're all big talk. Now their bluff's 652 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: getting a little bit called by the bond market. So 653 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: it's it's and this is President Trump. What he's trying 654 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: to do is get some framework around this so we 655 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: can lay the guns down, the war of attrition can 656 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: start stop, and then you start talking about some sort 657 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: of deal. A subset of this is going to be 658 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: the situation in Persia where I think the Russian is 659 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: going to work to have some sort of diplomatic American 660 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: Persian sit down. The new head of the idea of 661 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the Chief of Staff when he said when he said 662 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: it's going to be a year of war, he's talking 663 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: about in Gaza, he's also talking about in Judea, Samaria. 664 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: I think he's talking about some cleanup in Syria, maybe 665 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: some Hezba. But he also says, hey, they call it Iran, 666 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: I call it Persia. 667 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: But Iran. 668 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: And as you know, there's very little to no support, 669 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: very little support for engagement in any kind of conflict 670 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: with Persian, either on ground or any areas. 671 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: There's got to be another way to solve that. 672 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: So it's a volatile situation. It's a very volatile situation, 673 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: very volatile situation. Then you come back here and the 674 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: audience and you guys are going to have to be 675 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: kind of the the arbiter here because we have to 676 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: get serious. And only this audience can make people serious 677 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: about spending cuts. Nobody wants a cut spending, let's be 678 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: honest up on the hill. Is because it's too politically painful. 679 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: The reason we're in this situation is because we've avoided 680 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: this for decade after decade after decade. If you look 681 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: at the deficits we had in the first couple of 682 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: years of Trump, before COVID, before COVID hit they're relatively small. 683 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: You know. 684 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: I think there was an argument we can close that 685 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: the time, but the relatory so I think the first 686 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: one is four hundred billion a couple compared to today 687 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: when you're at two trillion dollars and is structural. We 688 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: have to get serious about cutting that. The only way 689 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: you're going to cut it, and I've said this before, Yes, 690 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: there is waste for an abuse. One you have to 691 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: identify it. Two, you have to stop paying for it. 692 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Three you have to rid it from the system. You 693 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: have to hold people accountable because it's been all this 694 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: waste for an abuse. Remember it's been financed for years 695 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: and people have run the organizations that did it. So 696 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: you have to do that accountability. But it's not going 697 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: to be a trillion dollars. You're not going to cut 698 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: the deficit hat with with waste front abuse spending cuts. 699 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: That's two. It's not a magic one. You're going to 700 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: have to get into the tough into the tough decisions defense, Medicaid, 701 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: the other social programs because you're not going to touch 702 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: the entitlements right now, Medicare and Social Cared. It's just 703 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: not going to happen. It's another fantasy. If people tell you, well, 704 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: you can't do it, until then, they're lying to you. 705 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: Because you can at least make an effort and close 706 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: this thing up. 707 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: You can. It's going to be painful, It's going. 708 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: To be the media is going to be all over 709 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: you every day of the week, right, just like in 710 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: deporting ten million people, they think it's gonna be easy. 711 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be you see the deportation, right, 712 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: So how tough it is even to get the criminals 713 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: out when you have sanctuary cities, have these governors, guys 714 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: like Pritzker, these people fighting you tooth and nail. So 715 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: it's all difficult, right, Stopping the war's difficult. That's why 716 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Trump's just doing an extraordinary job standing. 717 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: In the breach. And I'm glad today because I don't 718 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: think and. 719 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: This is why I think was good Scott got on 720 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: the road. I think Lutnick and Navarro and Hassett and 721 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: Scott the terrific. I think it's got to be kind 722 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: of more coordinated and hammered, and more surrogates outside surrogates, 723 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: e J. Antonio of the world. He's still given the 724 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: best description of the of the difficulty of this accoudomy 725 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: of anybody of what President Trump inherited. President Trump is 726 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: taking the ball by the horns. That's why I think 727 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: we're having this press a veil, and I don't believe 728 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: it's around the executive order signing for the for actually 729 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: getting rid of the Education Department, which I believe is 730 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be today, is supposed to be yesterday. I 731 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: think they're tightening up the executive order. But President Trump 732 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: is going to go on offense, I think here momentarily 733 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: and talk to you about the jobs for it. 734 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: Inside the jobs report, there's some nuggets. 735 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: I think nine thousand jobs created in one month in 736 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: January in the automotive industry is shows you what President 737 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: Trump's doing about the automotive industry. This is part of 738 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: this is part of the whole tariff strategy and bringing 739 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: manufacturing back here. What Honda has already announced, I think 740 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: there's been some other announcements also. I think these extraordinarily important, 741 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: and President Trump's going to talk about that. He's also 742 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to bring up the fact that 743 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, with his efforts after this bombing overnight, the 744 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: shelling overnight by the Russians in Ukraine that he's you know, 745 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: he's got somebody's attention, and now putin saying and he's 746 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: willing to have a ceasefire. 747 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: That's a big movement, very big movement. 748 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: President Trump and Witchcoff and these are thinking about this 749 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: overall rough prochemonde with the Russians, how it's going to look, 750 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: and it's extraordinarily important. And you got the Europeans and 751 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians nipping at your snapping at your heels. They 752 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: clearly they're going to have some say so it's got 753 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: to be minor and it's got to be not It 754 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: cannot drive this deal because this is between principles. I 755 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: just don't think they're considered a principle. I don't because 756 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: it's an overall strategic relationship that can solve the situation 757 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: in Europe. The potential for a European war, which is 758 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: how World War two kind of started a start as 759 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: a mainland war between a peril Japan and China up 760 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: in Manchuria, and has started with the you know, I 761 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: would actually say with the with the Spanish Civil War, 762 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: but then in nineteen thirty nine and it was a 763 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: European war. It's a European War until nineteen forty one, 764 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: until Operation Barbara Ros, until the vermach To, the Ermans 765 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: attacked their strategic partner or at least their alliance partner, 766 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: the Russians, and kind of a sneak attack or Barbarossa. 767 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: And guess what happened six months later, the sneak attack 768 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: at Pearl Harbor. 769 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 2: Very much close. 770 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, people don't tie this together, very very inextricably linked. 771 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: This is a person Trump's. 772 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: Dealing with, and this is why the spending has to 773 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: get and look, it's obviously not he's going to do 774 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: it himself. We wouldn't be in this situation and this 775 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: audience wouldn't be upset as you should be upset if 776 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: Johnson and these guys I said for months and months 777 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: and months, just let's. 778 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 2: Get on the table and tell the truth. 779 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: Don't don't say we spent all this time of reconciliation 780 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: when you have to get twenty twenty five physical twenty 781 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: twenty five has got to be sorted, then you. 782 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: Deal with twenty six. We didn't do that. Okay, short break, 783 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 2: Maybe back to the White House. When we return, we 784 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 2: will play to. 785 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 6: The reck God. We rejoice with. 786 00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: A more stick down. They use your Stephen k. 787 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: B Okay, we will go live to the White House 788 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: as soon as we know. They're out in the side 789 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: room right now. Brian glent Is I think going to 790 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: be there. He's their position. We also have a camera crew, 791 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 1: So President Trump's going to be in the Oval, I believe. 792 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a Roosevelt room. Thinks it will 793 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: be the Oval. 794 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 7: Uh. 795 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: And he's going to do a press avail and there'll 796 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: be some questions. I think it's going to at least 797 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: do jobs reported things. Obviously going to talk about Russia. 798 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to bring up some the situation 799 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: on Doge and the cr This could be. This could 800 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: go for a while, and it should be great. Real 801 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: America's Voice is going to cover it live. Of course, 802 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk follows us. If you haven't seen Charlie's podcast 803 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: with Governor Newsom, you should definitely watch that. Newsom's running 804 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: in twenty eight and I know the audience wants to 805 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: get ahead of all this. You want to I know, 806 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but you got to know what's 807 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: out there. And so Newsom's definitely and he see in 808 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: the Charlie Podcast, Very volatile capital markets around a day. 809 00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: Why is that? 810 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: Times of turbulence geopolitically, financially, deportations of the border, coming 811 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: war with with the cartels. The Chinese have a curse 812 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: to live in interesting times. Baby, I will tell you live 813 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: in interesting times. There are decades in which nothing happens, 814 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: and there are weeks in which decades happen. And right 815 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: now we're having week after week after week. Why President 816 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: Trump fled the zone days of thunder. He is on 817 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: fire and I'm telling you the weight of the world's 818 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: on his shoulders. But he's getting a done. Look at 819 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: that command performance on the State of the Union or 820 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: the jointing dressed to Congress and comparing contrasts what could 821 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: have been running this country. 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This is a program that's designed to expedite 888 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 7: the basically a conclusion of payments on student loans for 889 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 7: people who have taken out federally back student loans. The problem, though, 890 00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 7: is that a lot of these people work for MG organizations, 891 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 7: for nonprofit organizations that engage in illegal or what we 892 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 7: would consider to be improper activities supporting, for example, illegal 893 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 7: immigration or foreign terrorist organizations or otherwise of law breaking activities. 894 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 7: So this executive order will direct your Department of Education 895 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 7: and Department of the Treasury to basically print about modifications 896 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 7: to the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program in order to 897 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 7: ensure that people who are engaged in these sorts of 898 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 7: activities can't benefit from a program that's really not intended 899 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 7: to support those sorts of things. 900 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 3: And what are the consequences if they are not good? 901 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 9: The conse consequences would be that they wouldn't get forgiveness 902 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 9: of their student loans as they would be eligible for 903 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 9: if they were working for the government or a normal nonprofit. 904 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 9: That's not violating the law. 905 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 3: Any questions of that, anybody of any questions. So we'll 906 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 3: talk about the manufacturing turnaround, and. 907 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 6: It's been very early, but it's pretty significant. 908 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 3: The numbers were much better, as you know, than projected 909 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 3: by the media, and a little surprising actually, how strong, 910 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 3: how fast because we have many many companies are moving 911 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 3: into our country. As you probably know, it's a statistic 912 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 3: that everyone talks about, but nobody seems to have done 913 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 3: much about. Since the beginning of NAFTA, there's been ninety 914 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 3: thousand plants and. 915 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 6: Factories closed in this country. Think of that. 916 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 3: Ninety thousand plants and factories have been closed in this country, 917 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: many of them have been car manufacturing plants. And that's 918 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 3: a terrible statistic, and we'll be turning that around. 919 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 6: You're gonna see it already. 920 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 3: We already have numerous that are being built or starting 921 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 3: to be built, and numerous that were being built in 922 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 3: other countries and they stopped and they're coming here now 923 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 3: because of the tariffs. 924 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 6: And that's a big deal. That's what you want to hear. 925 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 3: During the last year, the Bidened administration saw a loss 926 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 3: of more than one hundred and ten thousand manufacturing jobs, 927 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 3: or nine thousand manufacturing jobs every single month. It averaged 928 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 3: about nine thousand a month, one hundred and ten thousand 929 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 3: manufacturing jobs during the first full month in office. We've 930 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 3: not only stopped that manufacturing collapse, but we've begun to 931 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 3: rapidly reverse it and major gains. We created ten thousand 932 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 3: manufacturing jobs in February alone. That hasn't happened in a 933 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 3: long time. And these aren't government jobs, which actually we cut. 934 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 3: These are private sector manufacturing jobs. So we gained all 935 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 3: of those jobs, ten thousand jobs, and we barely started. 936 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 3: It's a very unusual number of people were surprised by it. 937 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 3: I'm even a little surprise on auder jobs. We created 938 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 3: almost nine and new jobs in the auto production field, 939 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 3: and the reason for that is largely they think things 940 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 3: are happening, so they're already geared up. In some cases, 941 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 3: they had rooms in their plants or they had empty 942 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 3: plants that they were able to put into use quickly 943 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 3: because they see because of the tariffs, they don't want 944 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 3: to be dealing with other places, and they don't want 945 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 3: to go back and forth and around and through the 946 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 3: borders and across Mexico border and Canada border, and they 947 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 3: want to have the jobs in one location. And they've 948 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 3: had space and a bad space. They were able to 949 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 3: create the jobs almost immediately. In some cases they'll be 950 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 3: building plants to take care of those. So we created 951 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 3: nine thousand new jobs already in the auto production autoparts manufacturing. 952 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 6: So we want the autoparts. 953 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 3: Ideally, and I think from a simplicity standpoint too, to 954 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 3: be built and made in the United States. It's in 955 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 3: a single month that all took place in a single month, 956 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 3: nine thousand new auto jobs. 957 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 6: You haven't heard that in a long time. 958 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 3: After autoworkers lost more than twenty seven thousand auto jobs 959 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,760 Speaker 3: in the final year of Biden. 960 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 6: These are also high paying jobs. These are very prime jobs. 961 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 3: The ISM Manufacturing Survey and the SMP Manufacturing Survey have 962 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 3: also confirmed that our administration is presiding over a brand 963 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 3: new domestic manufacturing boom after major. 964 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 6: Collapse under Biden. It was a collapse. 965 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 3: All he did is keep adding new government jobs, which 966 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 3: are not the jobs you want. We're trying to shrink 967 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 3: government and grow the private sector. 968 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 6: That's what we've been doing. 969 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 3: Under the final two years of Biden, one in every 970 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 3: four jobs created in America was a government job. 971 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 6: That's a tremendous percentage. 972 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 3: But under the first full month of President Trump, which 973 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 3: we haven't even got