1 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: This is a new Earning Their Stripes episode on the 2 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Fish Stripes Podcast, our show dedicated entirely to Miami Marlins 3 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: player development. Hosting with Ian Smith, I'm Eli, Susman. It's 4 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: the MLB postseason, one of the best stretches on the 5 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: baseball calendar. The only thing better the MLB Amateur Draft, 6 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: which is less than eight months away. Now that the 7 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: draft order is set and the Marlins major league players 8 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: are sitting on their couches, let's go in depth on 9 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty draft and Baseball American national Carlos Colaso 10 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: is going to help us do that. Carlos, Before we 11 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: get into the meat of this conversation about the draft 12 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: prospects past and present, I'm curious what your postseason viewing 13 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: experience is like. Do you have any rooting interests of 14 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: the teams that are remaining, any particular players that you're 15 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: a fan of in October? 16 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough kind of being in my position. I 17 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: definitely grew up a Braves fan, just growing up in 18 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: North Carolina and kind of watching the team on TVs 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: all the time. But I think kind of being in 20 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: the industry for a while now those team allegiances die 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: down a little bit and you begin to see yourself 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: root more for individual players who are just fun to watch, 23 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: or maybe even some different systems based on people that 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: you know who work with these teams, whether that be 25 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: scouts or just different people that you've interacted with. You 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: just want to see the people that you know do well. 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say that I have any super strong 28 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: allegiances at this point. I'm just looking forward to some 29 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: close games and some fun October baseball, and so far 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: the Braves Cardinals series has done that one for us 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: pretty well to this point. 32 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: It's a question I always want to get in because 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: following the Marlins, it's always the same story every year 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: for most of my life. 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: Most of Ian's life. You know, we know the team's 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: not going to be in. 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: It, so we always need to find ulterior like storylines 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: and stuff. 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: So that's the question. 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm always curious about what the people that don't face 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: the same routine every year. It must be nice to 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: have some variety and actually what the teams is and 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: your relationships with those teams. 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, it must be nice. 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: Definitely, it's impressive, to be honest, the fans of the 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: Marlins people who have been fans of the organization for 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: a long time. You guys have to be up there 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: in the best fans in the game, because, like you said, 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: it's been tough for you guys for a little I 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: can imagine it's been fairly depressing. But hey, the farm 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 2: system is turning around, so knock on some wood, maybe 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: we'll maybe it'll be better in a little bit. 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: Exactly. 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, that's what we want to hear. And having 55 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: you on today is probably the best, probably the best 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: podcast on the house this year. 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: Man. 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: I'm in love with the draft for the last few 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 4: years in the city and get to talk to you 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: about that, it's pretty awesome for me. 61 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: Man. 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are excited for it. 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Well, you've been covering the draft now for full 64 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: time for the last two years, and your work's been inspiring. 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: What do you think the most rewarding stressful parts of 66 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: covering high school and college talent are. 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: The most rewarding part is definitely once once the draft 68 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: is finished, once we go through Day three. And fortunately 69 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: the past two years that I've kind of been leading 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: the draft coverage here at Baseball America, we haven't missed 71 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: anyone on day one, and that's always the goal, like 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: the main goal anyone who gets drafted on the nationally 73 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: televised event on the first day. We want to make 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: sure we have information and scattering reports on all those players. 75 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: We have done that in the two years that I've 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: been here. I think we do pretty much every year, 77 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: but just kind of continuing that because if we don't 78 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: have someone that gets drafted on day one, like we 79 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: go five hundred deep in our BA five hundred and 80 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: we have state reports on players extended out after that, 81 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: So if we don't have someone that gets drafted in 82 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: the first day, that would feel pretty bad. But just 83 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: kind of looking back at the work that you've done 84 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: basically the entire year leading up to the draft and 85 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: knowing that like you've covered the draft well has been 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: rewarding for me these past two years. It's definitely fun 87 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: to go through the process. I'd say the most stressful 88 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: part is definitely the month leading up to the draft. 89 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: So the entirety of May is basically just me and 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: the other people here at Baseball America who are helping 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: out with draft coverage, bunkering down and talking with scouts 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: basically on the phone all day if we're not out 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: of field, which in May, going to the field actually 94 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: dies down a little bit and it's more phone calls 95 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 2: as much as possible, and then writing all the reports 96 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: we can. So that's definitely the most stressful time of 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: the year, but it's definitely worth it once we kind 98 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: of get that finished product. 99 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I couldn't imagine that time leading up 100 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: to the draft, like even your i mean personal level life, 101 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: like just trying to go on Twitter. I couldn't imagine 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: posting anything and not here. Well, who's gonna say this? 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: I mean, I couldn't imagine that everything you're here for 104 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: months on end. I mean that's got to be a 105 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: streussle part in its own right, you know, just knowing 106 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: it's never going to stop. 107 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: It is. But at the same time, the fact that 108 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: people are so interested in kind of finding out information 109 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: about the draft and people are are really excited about 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: asking questions about it, I mean, the interest in the 111 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: draft in general in the baseball world. Having that kind 112 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: of excitement from the readership and just the general baseball 113 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: audience is a huge plus. I Mean, if people didn't 114 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: care about it and weren't as passionate about it would 115 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: definitely not be us fun to do, so you got 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: to take the good with the bad bear. 117 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I mean it's a big part towards your 118 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: coverage that as Marlins like coverage, people were able to 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: anticipate where they went in the twenty nineteen drafts, going 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 1: with jj blday at a Vanderbilt with the first pick, 121 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: and that whole draft class overall, you know, as a 122 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: big assist from coming off a terrible year for the Marlins. 123 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: They had really premium draft position with three picks in 124 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: the top fifty, and then even further down they picked 125 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: up some really interesting guys by going overslot. We wanted 126 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: to just get some of your expanded thoughts on that 127 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen draft class. We know that Bloedeids the Marlins 128 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: was a connection that you guys linked very far in 129 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: advance as the pick that they were going to go 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: with first overall, but even immediately behind him, there's some 131 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: very high ceiling guys that have the potential to be 132 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: just as impactful at the major league level. So just 133 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: your general thoughts on what the Marlins did in the 134 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: draft this past year and taking advantage of that position 135 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: they were in. 136 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, we'd linked the Marlins to Bluedet 137 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: specifically pretty far out I think. I mean, the Marlins 138 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: Bleday connection was one of the outside of Bobby Witch 139 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: of the Royals, was one of the most prevalent rumors 140 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: we heard kind of a few weeks out from the draft. 141 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how early we had it at this point. 142 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: I'd have to go look back and see how early 143 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: we had it. But this last year's draft, the top 144 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: six players, really it almost was easier than the twenty 145 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: eighteen draft and figuring out how the kind of first 146 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: six picks were going to go in consistent report from 147 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: every when we talked to that that's going to be 148 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: the order. A couple of rumors kind of on draft 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: Day that I feel like was more smoke than anything. 150 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean we heard that the Marlins wanted 151 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: to make a shift in the organization. They'd previously gone 152 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: for some really high upside high school players in previous drafts, 153 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: and obviously JJ Blade is not from that demographic. He's 154 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: one of the best hitters in the class. He's a 155 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: guy who'd shown his ability to hit the ball in 156 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: the SEC for three years and then tapped into his 157 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: plus raw power as a junior. So I think that's 158 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: a fantastic pick right there at number four. I think 159 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: there were some teams who were thinking about pulling the 160 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: trigger on Bledet in front of Marlins, but the fact 161 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: that he got there and they were able to grab him, 162 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: I think is great for them. And you mentioned it 163 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: some high upside guys after that. Cameron Meiser, the Missouri outfielder. 164 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a guy who was getting some 165 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: top ten love early on in the season. He's extremely toolsy, 166 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: probably the most toolsy college player in the class. I 167 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: think maybe Greg Jones, the UNCW shortstop, maybe would have 168 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: an argument there. But Cameron Meiser, if he hits, I mean, 169 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: he has a chance to be just as good as, 170 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: if not better than JJ Blaeday. But that's the big question. Obviously, 171 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: you have a little bit more security in JJ Blade's 172 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: bat and what he's able to do offensively. But if 173 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: things come together from Meisner, I mean, watch out, you 174 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: have a really exciting prospect. And then even going further 175 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: than that, and I seem ninyas he's maybe the exact 176 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: opposite of these two big physical college hitters. He's an 177 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: undersized high school shortstop with a flair for the defensive 178 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: side of the game. He's a plus or plus plus runner, 179 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: So they still tap into that well of exciting high 180 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: school demographic, but maybe a little bit later than they 181 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: had in previous years. 182 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm glad you said some of something 183 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: about Fitger. I mean, excuse me, fitter Cameron mais there 184 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: because the fact if you would have hit his junior year, 185 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: I think you probably would have went the top fifteen pigs. 186 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: I mean, he was injured and had some downtime, and 187 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 4: I think Miami got really lucky was him where they did, 188 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: and seeing him play this year was exciting. He's a 189 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: monstrous sized kid. I've never seen an outfielder move like 190 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: he does with his size, but I mean a center 191 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: fielder for that matter, he's a freak. 192 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable how big and how physical he is. 193 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: But like you said, he runs well despite that size. Now, 194 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: we heard some people who said he has a chance 195 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: to stick in centerfield. If you look at the number 196 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: of center fielders at the major league level at that size, 197 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: it's there's like a very small sample of players. So 198 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: we would imagine he goes to the corner, but like 199 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: the fact that he is that physical and even has 200 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: a chance to play there is impressive. 201 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Well, I'm going to go back a little bit 202 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 4: off the draft here and talk about when we covered 203 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: the Padres back in twenty sixteen. Miami's farm in twenty 204 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: eighteen looked similar to that year in San Diego, but 205 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: a year later, both franchises stood with an elite farm 206 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: system due to some trading and good drafts. Is the 207 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: Marlins rebuild starting to show similarities to what San Diego 208 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: has been doing for the last three. 209 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Again, i'd have to see where 210 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: exactly they were. Actually, I can actually pull it up 211 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: now and see just how much they've improved. I think 212 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, the Padres ranked as twenty fifth in baseball. 213 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: Like you said, that was back when I was covering 214 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: the team, and then the very next year they were 215 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: top ten. And then if you look at how we've 216 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: had the Marlin system ranked. In twenty eighteen, we had 217 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: them twenty fourth overall. That's our preseason organization ranking, I believe, 218 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: and now they're sitting at number eight two years later. 219 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: So they have definitely done a lot to improve this system. 220 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: They've traded off a lot of really impressive players at 221 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: the major league level, and they've kind of I mean, 222 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 2: this system three or four years ago is one of 223 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: the worst in the league, and to have a top 224 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: ten system and it's only going to get better when 225 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: you've got a number three pick in next year's class, 226 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: which looks like a very deep draft class. Yeah, I 227 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 2: think they've done a phenomenal job. Now it's just about 228 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: developing those guys they have in the system and turning 229 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: them into productive major league players, which the Padres are 230 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: kind of on the cusp of that. We'll see what 231 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: happens with these guys in the upper levels of the minors, 232 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: and maybe in a few years we'll see what the 233 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: Marlins are able to do. But they've definitely done a 234 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: phenomenal job kind of revitalizing their their farm system. 235 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 236 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: And just a little follow up on the Padres Marlins 237 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: connection there. I want to know your immediate reactions to 238 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: the Fernando Rodney Chris Paddock trade at the time, knowing 239 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: now what we know what Chris Pattick can be. 240 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I don't really remember what my thoughts were 241 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: at the time. This was before I was beat with BA, 242 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 2: so I probably didn't know much about or as much 243 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: about the prospects side of things. That's fair obviously looking 244 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: at it now in hindsight, I mean, Paddock is a 245 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: phenomenal pitcher and had a great year. But I honestly 246 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: would be disingenuous to tell you that I remembered what 247 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: I thought of it at the time. Here's what you 248 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: guys thought that on what you think now? 249 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean thinking then. But at the time aj 250 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: Ramos was leading me in now and saves. The team 251 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: was looking on the coast of having a quality maybe 252 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 4: playoff like runs, so they made the trade of Rodney. 253 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 4: In my eyes, it wasn't the greatest deal of all time, 254 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: but we saw it and it led a rough end 255 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: of the season, but it was a trade they tried 256 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: to make as a as a LORI a special as 257 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 4: I like to call it, and wanted to make that 258 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: because it's away run for the playoffs, and it just 259 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: didn't work out. 260 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. In general, I think I'm a little 261 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: bit skeptical of trading for kind of those high end relievers, 262 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: the top of the line of relievers, just because they're 263 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: so volatile. Obviously, we've seen some teams. I mean, the 264 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: Braiders are playing right now, and they made some trades 265 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: for some really important relievers that are helping them at 266 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: the moment. But it's tough when you've got a position 267 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: group that those volatiles relievers are so. 268 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: And with Fernando Rodney in particular, it's amazing that every 269 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: year two teams fall for the same tricks. 270 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: Again, you always pitches. 271 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: For one team really well, and he always pitches one 272 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: really poorly, and you don't know exactly whether that'sum's going 273 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: to come in the first half of the second half. 274 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: But that seemed to start, you know, with that trade 275 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: three years ago. Ever since then, it's been each year 276 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: is a carbon copy of itself. And I mean really, 277 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean props to him. He is now, I believe, 278 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: the oldest active player in the league, and for the 279 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: moment he's actually pitching in the postseason with the Nationals, 280 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: So he's the big winner of that trade. 281 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: Probably fat Yeah, he's forty two years old and has 282 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: been pitching for seventeen years. That's definitely an impressive career, but. 283 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: It's crazy. Yeah, Well, to get away from that, we'll 284 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: get back to the draft a little bit like you 285 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: were saying, this twenty twenty draft looks to be loaded 286 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: at the top. There's top tier college arms and bats, 287 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: and with some high ceiling players at the prep level. 288 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: What do you think is the strongest position in the draft. 289 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: And I'd love to know some of your favorite players 290 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: early this early in the season. 291 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like you said, I think you mentioned that 292 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: the college pitching. I think that's going to be the 293 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: story for the twenty twenty draft. I mean, especially kind 294 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: of coming right off the back of the twenty nineteen 295 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: draft or we saw maybe the finniest pitching group college 296 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: and high school that we've ever seen in the draft era. 297 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: I mean, the first picture didn't come off the board 298 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: until number seven. That's the longest it's ever taken for 299 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: the first picture to come off the board. That will 300 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: not be the case in twenty twenty. The college class 301 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: is extremely deep. That's partially because the college arms have 302 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: done really well, and also there are a number of 303 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen members of that twenty eighteen high school pitching 304 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: class that was super deep. A lot of those kids 305 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: were draft eligible sophomore. So you've got guys like Cole Wilcox, 306 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: Guys like JT. Ginn, who are first round talents coming 307 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: out of high school as pitchers and now they've succeeded 308 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: at the college level, again more so than Wilcox at 309 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: this point, but they both have first round stuff in 310 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: addition to guys like Emerson Hancock who is definitely highly 311 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: regarded out of high school, guys like as Lasio, Texas 312 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: A and M and then going even further guys like 313 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: Predebtmors with Louisville. So it's going to be loaded pitching class. 314 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: I think the high school depth on the pitching side 315 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: is a little bit better than it was in twenty 316 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: nineteen as well. But I think think teams are mostly 317 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: excited about the amount of impressive college arms because teams 318 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: love to draft college pitching high in the draft, at 319 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: least historically, and I think they're going to be excited 320 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: with the pool they have this year. 321 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: Well, one thing that's an exception to that, friends, is 322 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: the Marlins. 323 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: Actually, because I was digging into their history after seeing 324 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: that mock draft that you had for BA that ad 325 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Hancock to the Marlins at three, I looked into the 326 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: history of the Marlins taking college pitchers anywhere in the 327 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: first rounds or even in the supplemental first rounds. And 328 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: not only has it been such a small number of pitchers, 329 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: but like the biggest success story of that whole group 330 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: in the marlins twenty seven year history is probably Andrew Heeney, who, 331 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: of course didn't even have any of that success with 332 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: the Marlins itself, so they've been a lot of that 333 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: history isn't relevant anymore because Marlins did overhaul a lot 334 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: of their player development and scouting departments under their ownership 335 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: just a. 336 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: Couple of years ago. 337 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: But even look at the last two years with the Marlins, 338 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they took an well, they didn't take 339 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: any pitching whatsoever until the fifth rounds in the last 340 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: couple drafts, and then yeah, even in particular with these 341 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: college arms, they just haven't had a lot of interest 342 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: or success historically. So personally, I'm just really excited that 343 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: with the talent coming up in this class and the 344 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: confidence that you seem to have that these guys could 345 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: be successful at the pro level, because the Marlins in 346 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: particular have been really burned. 347 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: By this Historically. 348 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: It's been some prep arms that have obviously been superstars 349 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: for them, but when it comes to college arms, that's 350 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: something that for whatever reason, has not worked out for 351 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: them over the years. 352 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's you mentioned he and I think 353 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: he was in two thousand and twelve, I believe, and 354 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: I think that's the last time they've taken a college 355 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: pitcher in the first round, right. That's pretty wild. But 356 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: if they want to go that route, there should be 357 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: plenty of options available to them, though. I do think 358 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: they're going to be in a good spot taking number three. 359 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: I think this will be a good year to pick 360 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: third because I think at this point there's kind of 361 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: a clear top three on the college side, and I think, 362 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: however they go one to at this point, the Marlins 363 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: should be pretty happy with who they wind up with 364 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: at number three if things stay the same. Obviously, we 365 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: have plenty of time before the twenty twenty draft. We've 366 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 2: got like two hundred and forty five days until they 367 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: have to make their pick. But it's looking like a 368 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: very strong top three right now, and I think Marlin 369 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: Spens are going to be excited, as I assume they 370 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: were with Bladet this past year. 371 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 4: Well, talking of another Vanderbilt project, I think my favorite 372 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: player in this upholding draft might be Austin Martin lead, 373 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: his leade hit tool, his big time defensive ability at 374 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 4: two positions really and seeing him mock first overall was 375 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 4: really not a shock. I think if he I mean 376 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: not think, but if he possibly has a bled day 377 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: like power uptick this season, is he is he a 378 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: better prospect coming out than Dansy Sponson. 379 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. I think probably right, like, like 380 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: if he played shortstop in shows that he can handle 381 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: it there. He's had pretty impressive impact with Vanderbilt. I mean, 382 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: he was one of the best hitters in the country 383 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: and that's including JJ Bladey, who is the fourth pick 384 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: in the draft, his teammate. He hit four ten, five 385 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: of three six nineteen at Vandy. He's battue that I've seen. 386 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: I think the question for like where he's going to 387 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: go is definitely going to depend on where he plays 388 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: defensively and how he looks playing there. Like he said, 389 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: he can play two premium defensive positions. We just haven't 390 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: seen a ton of him playing shortstop. And that's not 391 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: necessarily because he couldn't play there, just because the teams 392 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: he's played on have had better options, or at least 393 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: that's what the coaching staff has believed at the time. 394 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: But I saw him a little bit with the college 395 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: and national team this summer playing center field, and I 396 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: was really impressed with his running ability and just his 397 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: his routes. He cut off balls really well, took away 398 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: a few extra base hits and held them to singles 399 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: when I kind of just assumed those were bubbles off 400 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: the bat. So he's a very athletic fast player who 401 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: also has a pretty pure swing with some thump, and 402 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: the the increased home runs that he showed as a 403 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: sophomore is encouraging. If he continues to tap into some 404 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: more of that power as a as a junior, it's 405 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna fly off the board. And obviously we 406 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: think he's got a chance to go number one, as 407 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: we mocked him there in our most recent which absolutely 408 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 2: it's a mock in October, so take that for what 409 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: you want to. But he's a very exciting talent. 410 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 4: I don't think he doesn't go anywhere below three, regardless, 411 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 4: just because of the town he has. But like like 412 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 4: you're saying, if that power continues to show the upward 413 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: trend that it's on, it's gonna be it's gonna be 414 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: crazy to see what he can do in here, but 415 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: no doubt absolutely well with Miami building in an extremely 416 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: strong farm system recently. This first round pick can go 417 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: a few different ways in my eyes, and a guy 418 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 4: has really caught my eye recently is Jordan Walker. I 419 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 4: think his his fluidity in the field with his size 420 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 4: is ridiculous, and it's more impressive when you see him 421 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 4: swing a bat. What if your thoughts been on him 422 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: since you've been scouting this year. 423 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Walker. I think that's probably a little higher 424 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: than what I would think of him at this point, 425 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: but there are definitely people out there that are really 426 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: high on him. He's maybe one of the smarter players 427 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: that I've got to talk to in this draft class 428 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: at this point, and most of the guys that I've 429 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 2: talked to have been high school players, and he was 430 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: definitely one of the smarter ones that I got to 431 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: talk to. But he's got some thump in his bat, 432 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: like you mentioned, he's actually the feedback that I got 433 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: from scouts when talking to them kind of after seeing 434 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: him over the summer circuit is they were really impressed 435 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: with how well he moved as a guy who's six 436 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: foot five to twenty or thereabouts, But I mean he 437 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: moves very fluidly for a guy with his size. He 438 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: was able to barrel up some premium stuff over the summer. 439 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: He was one of the few guys that managed to 440 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: turn around Jared Kelly and get a hit off of him. 441 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: Jared Kelly was extremely dominant for me over the summer, 442 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: and he had a very competitive at bat against him 443 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: in the Perfect Game All American Classic. He's got really 444 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: really impressive power. The one question with me with Walker 445 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: is going to be his profiles corner infielder. Along with 446 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: Blaze Jordan, I think there are gonna be some similar 447 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: questions with both those guys. Although yeah, you could definitely 448 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: argue that Walker looks better defensively than Jordan at this 449 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: point that I think both of them have a chance 450 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: to play third, but impact bats maybe a little rich 451 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: for me in this area, but who knows. 452 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I wanted to know your your thoughts 453 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: on it, That's all I want to I mean, he's 454 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: been a pop up prospect almost for me, just seeing 455 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 4: him recently, what he could do with it beat and 456 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 4: the fact that he's still going to be just turning 457 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 4: eighteen in the draft month, it will be pretty exciting 458 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: years old. 459 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, he'll just turned eighteen. 460 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and talk about Blade Jordan if he I think 461 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: he's going to play a lot of third base this 462 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 4: year to go high in the draft, I mean, I 463 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 4: think I'm seeing his stock going lower in a few bocks. 464 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 4: Is surprising to me. But the first base only prospect 465 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: is such a young kid has got to be tough 466 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 4: to to project. 467 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: Almost. 468 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done a lot of a lot of impressive 469 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: stuff and kind of overhauling his body over the past year. 470 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: So when he was I mean, he's been famous for 471 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: a while now just with the amount of home runs 472 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: he said at some high level travel ball tournaments. And 473 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: he's I mean, honestly, he's probably the most famous player 474 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: in this draft class just for the kind of casual 475 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: baseball audience, just because some of the viral videos he's 476 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: had in some home run derbies. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, 477 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: look at the Instagram followers and YouTube followers he has. 478 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: It's pretty insane. He has some of the biggest raw 479 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: power in this class. Like you said, first base only 480 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: as a high schooler is typically not a super sexy demographic, 481 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: but he's done a lot of work to kind of 482 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: thin down and give himself a chance to play third 483 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: base defensively. I saw him a little bit, and he 484 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: showed the tools to be able to hang there. It's 485 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: just a matter of kind of refining it, improving his footwork, 486 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: improving his hands, improving his kind of throwing accuracy, inability 487 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: to make those plays on the run, coming in on 488 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: balls and going left and right. But he does have 489 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: fantastic hands and he's got a professional approach. When you 490 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: watch him in batting practice, he has the power to 491 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 2: just pull one out every single time, but he uses 492 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: the entire few and I think that he's got a 493 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: chance to be one of the better hitters in this class. 494 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look back, I guess right around draft 495 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: time this year, so when people were still already looking 496 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: ahead to twenty twenty, because I'm sure you notice the 497 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: Marlins got off to almost a historically bad start, like 498 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: the first quarter of their season this year. There was 499 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of talk, a lot of a lot of 500 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: teasing them that they'd taken a step backwards. And I mean, 501 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: if you played out all the way towards the end 502 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: of the year, they it was a disappointing year, but 503 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: it was at that point, like in around late May 504 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: early June, that people thought, wow, they'll definitely have the 505 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: number one pick, and all the public, as you said 506 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: with the casual fans, like all the public demands was 507 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: either it was all Torkal Sin or Blaise Jordan. 508 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: It was just one of those two, you know, just 509 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: for the most obvious. 510 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: Reasons, right because Yea was facing tow they were averaging 511 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: less than three runs a game for like forty to 512 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: fifty games into the year, and as it turns out, 513 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, the Tigers had the Tigers came out of 514 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: nowhere to like set records with their like in confidence, 515 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, the next few months, and they really went 516 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: away with that. And so we reached this point though 517 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: where the offense. That's something that we've actually spoken to 518 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: our fans about a lot, is how the offense really 519 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: didn't get a whole lot better as the season went on. 520 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: It was still they finished last in the majors and 521 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: home runs, and they're still naturally a lot of enthusias, 522 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: a lot of at the casual level, a lot of 523 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: people saying you need to focus on getting bats and 524 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: bats and more bats until this is fixed. But with 525 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: what they did in the draft class last year and 526 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: how they focused on those bats and in how they 527 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: got really good value in those early rounds with bats, 528 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: I think that that changed some of the thinking a 529 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: little bit, where now there are people are a lot 530 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: more open minded to just getting the best player available, 531 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: whoever that is in the early rounds. 532 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, I think that's a smart call. I mean, 533 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 2: regardless of who you talked to after the draft, all 534 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: the guyning direcords are going to say they went best 535 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: player available. Whether or not they actually do that, you 536 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: could could probably criticize them depending on some certain picks, 537 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: but I think that's always the right call. Like, there's 538 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: so much time between when you draft and when those 539 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: players are hitting the major league level that the major 540 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: league team is going to change so much. Who knows 541 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: what your needs are going to be, So I think 542 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: in general, take the best player if you have. If 543 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: you have extreme depth at one position, you could always 544 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: trade from that strength to addressing area of weakness. And 545 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: if you're better at developing one one position, maybe that's 546 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: another factor as well. But yeah, I think regardless of 547 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: what you like, maybe outside of maybe high school players, 548 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: pretty much any college demographic you might be excited about. 549 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: You you'll have a chance for at number three. I'm 550 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: curious to see if there will be a high school 551 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: player that will warrant a top three pick this year. 552 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: That's kind of the big question I have right now. 553 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm excited to see a lot of 554 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: these high school kids is upcoming weekend in Jupiter, because 555 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: I've yet to see a lot of these guys live 556 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: and so much have gotten to the draft the past 557 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: few years. I just I mean, i feel like I 558 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 4: need to be there so and I'm excited to see 559 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 4: if hopefully we can see Blaze playing third bases weekend 560 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: or what or that weekend or what. 561 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: But passing, Yeah, you should definitely do it. 562 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he should play their basis week. 563 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be shocked. I mean, he's been playing 564 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: there a lot of these at these showcase events and 565 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: trilball tournaments. I think it only benefits him to play. 566 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: Now. 567 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know exactly who's on his team, 568 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: depending who else is there, but you should get some 569 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: dings with plays at third base for sure. 570 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 571 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: Well, to bring up Miami's current system. Edward Cabrera as 572 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: a player that you guys ever seen, You have given 573 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: well deserved praise all year from Baseball new Erica. He 574 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 4: finished the year I think in the seventies and then 575 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: overall top one hundred, and he just made strides all 576 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 4: throughout the season. Where do you think he made the 577 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: most improvements to his game? And possibly could his ceiling 578 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: be greater than sixty Sanchez? 579 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: Ooh, that's an interesting question. Greater than sixts Sanchez. I mean, 580 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: it would be tough for me to come in being 581 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: less familiar with these these guys in the system than 582 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: probably even you at this point, lest my focus is 583 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: on the draft and say that he does have a 584 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: ceiling that could be higher than that, But you never 585 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: know of these pitchers, and what he showed this year 586 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: was obviously impressive. I mean, let's see, he had phifty 587 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: eight innings and in Jupiter and had a two point 588 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: h two ERA, two point twenty ERA in the Southern 589 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: League in Double A. I mean, he was just really impressive. 590 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: He's got really impressive stuff mid to upper nineties fastball, 591 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: and the thing that separates in from a lot of 592 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: these other prospects. I mean, it seems like everyone is 593 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: throwing a mid to upper nineties fastball in the minors. 594 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: Every single picture we look at is throwing hard. But 595 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: the fact that he is two potentially plus offspeed offerings 596 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: is maybe what's going to be the separator for him 597 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: moving forward. So I'll be curious how he's able to 598 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: kind of control that stuff moving forward. He's had good 599 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: walk rates throughout his entire minor league career. If you 600 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: can continue to do that and just keep sharpening his stuff, 601 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be very exciting. I don't 602 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: know exactly what the ceiling of him would be at 603 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: this point, but the fact that they've got players like 604 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 2: that who are improving and continue to get better in 605 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: the system with loud peer stuff is exciting. 606 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 607 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Ian was the very first person on this bandwagon that 608 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Edward Carberra is the true top pitching prospect in the system. 609 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: It's something that, yeah, very early in the year. 610 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: He's a personal favorite of Ians. 611 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, the fact that. 612 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: You can seriously have that conversation, well, even the fact 613 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: that you can seriously consider, I think is a testament 614 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: day is talent because I mean, for the I wouldn't 615 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: have even thought of that really, just kind of looking 616 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 2: at their system for more of an outsider than you. 617 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: I would just thought I was six to obviously, But no, 618 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: I think I think you make a good point. 619 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: He's got this stuff two months older, and I mean 620 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: the body projectability is what really saves him in the 621 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 4: long run, and outside being six four at almost one 622 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: hundred and ninety pounds, now he's got so much room 623 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: for growth and development. 624 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're worried about the size for six though, 625 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: I definitely think you could air towards the guy who's 626 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: six foot four. 627 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 628 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: I mean, granted, I've never seen easier ninety nine than 629 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: I've seen out of six D this year, so hm, 630 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: it was surprising to see what you can do with 631 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 4: this little frame. 632 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt he's got an absolutely special arm. 633 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 4: But going back to your UNC days, you're a little 634 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 4: bit I know you were able to cover Brian Millard 635 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: over his gleage years until he was the thirty six 636 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 4: overall pick for the Marlins in seventeen. What are your 637 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: thoughts on his pro career so far if you have any, 638 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: and where could you think he could take it? 639 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been crazy to watch his career, right, I mean, 640 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: coming into un C, you would have never thought that 641 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: he was going to get drafted as high as he did. 642 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: I mean he was a guy who originally was a 643 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: walk on to the team, if I believe, if I 644 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: remember correctly, But yeah, he's he's definitely I think he's 645 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: played above we kind of expect him. He's not the 646 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: toolsiest guy ever, but just looking at his minor league 647 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: career and he's already made it to double A in 648 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: two sixty five, three, twenty six, three fifty four. I 649 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: don't know if you have a ton of stealing with 650 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: a guy like Brian Miller, but you're gonna get a 651 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: competitive at bat with him. I don't even think he's 652 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: someone who's in Uh actually need to see where he 653 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: ranks in our system right now. But yeah, so twenty 654 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: seventh is where we have him right now. So I 655 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: don't know how much upside you're gonna get with a 656 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: guy like Brian Miller, but it's definitely impressive with what 657 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: he's done with kind of the tool set that he has. 658 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: I'll be very curious to see if he makes it 659 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: to the bigs what he kind of ends up being 660 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: at that point, because, like I said, he's not the 661 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: toolsiest guy. He doesn't have a lot of power. He's 662 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: a very professional hitter and a professional player that I 663 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: think is not going to hurt you in any one area, 664 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: but he's not going to blow you away either. I 665 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: never would have thought that Brian Miller would have made 666 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: it to the kind of level he's at at this 667 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: point watching him when I was in college, though, I 668 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: think it's a testament to him. It's been phenomenal to watch. 669 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what you're saying is something that he did 670 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: confirm to me that he was like a preferred walk on. 671 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: He called it Carolina where he felt he could have 672 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: played baseball a couple other places, but Carolina was always 673 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: his dream school growing up, so we wanted. 674 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: To make he's a local kid. 675 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think didn't he play some first base in college? 676 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: Like he wasn't in some DH where he didn't wasn't 677 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: necessarily seriously he played there. 678 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, who's the outfield. I don't know 679 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: if Scott Bolt was on the team at that point, 680 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: but it was definitely like they just didn't have a 681 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: spot from in the outfield because there are some players 682 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: who kind of solidified their positions at the time. They 683 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 2: wanted to get his bat in the lineup, so through 684 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: him at first, and he did an I shot there, 685 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: and then when he wound up moving to the outfield, 686 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: he obviously performed enough to get himself drafted at the 687 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: end of the first round. So it's a pretty remarkable story. 688 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: It's still being told, so we'll see. But I wouldn't 689 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: thank on Miller turning into kind of an everyday player 690 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: or anything like that. But if he does, they'll just 691 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: continue to kind of exceed people's expectations. For my guest. 692 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: Right well, on the topic of Carolina Baseball, I wanted 693 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: just some quick thoughts from you about I'm assuming you 694 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: still follow the program pretty closely, you know, being in 695 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: alum from there guys that are on their team currently, 696 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: whether it's this draft class or even looking forward to 697 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: the next couple of draft classes, is there anybody intriguing 698 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: that jumps out to you that you want to give 699 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: some love to, either someone that you think will go 700 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: in the early rounds the next couple of drafts, or 701 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: where just has some interesting skill sets. Because the Marlins 702 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: have some interesting history with Carolina, there was one year, 703 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: Bryan Mills year. They also I think they selected three 704 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: total Carolina players in that draft when they traded to 705 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: get when they traded Ozuna, Marcel Azuna, Zach Allen was 706 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: in that package. And obviously his stock has soared in 707 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: the couple of years since then. He was originally out 708 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: of Carolina and then going back a bunch of years 709 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: that he had made Colin Moran their first round pick 710 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: at a Carolina There's just some a little of a 711 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: history there. 712 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: Of them preferring Carolina players. 713 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm just curious who's in the next wave of guys 714 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: coming out of that school. 715 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the one that immediately jumps to mind is Aaron Sabato. 716 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: He's going to be a draft eligible sophomore this year 717 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: for UNC, and he's one of the stronger players in 718 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: this college class coming up. I mean, there was a 719 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: video that the UNC baseball team posted with him a 720 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, I believe, with him just hitting 721 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: off of a tee and hitting like a four hundred 722 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: and twenty foot bombed straightaway center field. It was absolutely massive. 723 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: He's extremely thick, extremely strong, not in a bad way. Also, 724 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: he's six too, like two hundred and thirty I believe, 725 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: so he packs a punch last year as a freshman, 726 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: I mean, he just hit some of the loudest balls 727 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: that I've ever seen while there. Colin Mariyan obviously did 728 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: that a lot back back when he was there, but 729 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: with Michael Bush and him in the lineup, there was 730 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: a lot of power, and I think Sebato kind of 731 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: routinely hit the ball as hard as Bush did. He 732 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: hit three thirty five, four thirty seven, six fifty with 733 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: thirteen home runs as a freshman, which is not easy 734 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 2: to do. Obviously, he's kind of limited defensively. It's going 735 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: to be a first baseman for you. I don't know 736 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: if he'll be able to play the outfield. But as 737 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: far as an impact that Subato is going to be 738 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: a really fun to watch, a really fun player to watch. 739 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: So if you want an UNC guy who's going to 740 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: be impact the draft in some capacity, you need to 741 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: look at her and Sobato. 742 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: And just before getting you out of here, Carlos as 743 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: someone ian is someone that pretty much. 744 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: Obsessively follows the draft process year rounds. 745 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: I'll admit that I'm a little bit further unplugged until 746 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: we actually get in close to the actual draft itself. 747 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: So I'm curious what. 748 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: Exactly I know you mentioned that you're actually going to 749 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: be covering prep tournament in these next couple of days. 750 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: What exactly is this step by step of your draft 751 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: coverage over these next few months before the actual twenty 752 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: twenty season gets going, in terms of what events do 753 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: you get to cover and what sort of work do 754 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: you do when there's actually no active events going on 755 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: and you don't actually get live looks at anybody, How 756 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: do your evaluations shape up without the benefit of that. 757 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. So the next event I'm 758 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: going to is actually by the biggest travel ball tournament 759 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: of the year for high school players with WWBA Perfect 760 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: Games Jupiter Tournament. I think you mentioned one of you 761 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: guys mentioned you were going to this this weekend. That's 762 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: that's maybe the biggest travelball tournament in the country. So 763 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: that's the last big event that I go to every year. 764 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: I'll get some looks at a bunch of high school kids. 765 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: I mean, there are thousands of kids that are playing 766 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: in this tournament. So me and a couple of guys 767 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: from Baseball Meerica will go down and watch that and 768 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: then following that event, we'll kind of make a few 769 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: more calls with some scouts throughout the country expand our 770 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 2: high school and college draft list. So right now we 771 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: have top fifties on both of those. For the twenty 772 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: twenty high school and college lists, we'll expand us to 773 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 2: the top one hundreds based on basically the entire summer 774 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: and fall kind of being wrapped up. And then after 775 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: that I go into Prospect Handbook mode. As you guys 776 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know at Baseball America will come by 777 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 2: the Prospect Handbook every year, which is the top thirty 778 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: prospects for every team in the game. So I'll spend 779 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: about a month or so working on my team for 780 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: that before kind of getting back into the draft mode. 781 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: And then throughout the winter, it's a lot of calling 782 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: around with scouts and kind of getting a feel for 783 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: each area throughout the country which players we need to 784 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: be aware of, which guys we need to kind of 785 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: have down on a list to be checking back in 786 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: on in the spring. Once the spring roll is around, 787 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 2: it's a lot more college focused for me than high school, 788 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: just because over the summer I get to so many 789 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: showcases and in tournaments from the high school side, so's 790 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: it's focused on the college guys, but obviously I'll check 791 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: out a number of high school players that are a 792 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 2: little bit closer. There are a few events on the 793 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: high school side, like the Borest Classic that I'll go 794 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: out to in the spring, But the NHSI is another 795 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: big one, USA Baseball's National High School Invitational that happens 796 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 2: in Carrie, which is right in our backyard. Baseball America's 797 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: office is in Durham, North Carolina, so it's nice to 798 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: have that one close to us. And then as we 799 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: kind of ramp up towards the draft, it's a lot 800 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 2: more calls. It's honestly just calling as many scouts as 801 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 2: possible and trying to shape up our BA five hundred list, 802 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: which is kind of the bulk of our draft coverage. 803 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: The good thing about doing draft coverage at Baseball America 804 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: is we try to get the industry's consensus on the 805 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: top talent. So while obviously I have to see these guys, 806 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: I try to make it to where none of my 807 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 2: personal opinions effect our rankings, because we think it's much 808 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 2: more noteworthy or much more important to show our readers 809 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: what MLB teams think of a draft class than what me, 810 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: Carlos Galazzo, some random nobody who's just watched baseball for 811 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 2: a long time thinks of a class. We think it's 812 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: much more valuable to get scouts opinions and kind of 813 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: form our lists in that way. 814 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 3: We do. 815 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: We do all of our draft lists, all of our 816 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 2: prospect lists in that manner. So it's just calling as 817 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: many people as possible at that point. But I think 818 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: that kind of sums up the year. If there's anything 819 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: else I've in touch on, feel free to pester for 820 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: me more about it. But I think that's basically what 821 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 2: the schedule is like in broad terms. 822 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty thorough. 823 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: We don't need a mat out every single day of 824 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: your life, that right, But that gives us a really 825 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: good picture. Thank you, And this year in particular, during 826 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: the cycle, I should say, I mean, Marlon's fans are 827 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: gonna be fixated on DA and everything you guys do, 828 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: because I mean, with any hope, this is going to 829 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: be the last year for a while that they're picking 830 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: at the very very very top. 831 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 3: They have as people have mentioned, they. 832 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: Have a pretty elite farm system with from guys at 833 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: double A and Triple A that are close to breaking through, 834 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: and even in a tough division, it seems kind of 835 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: inevitable that just from graduating, some of this top talent 836 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: from the high miners are going to be a more 837 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: respectable product. 838 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: At the major league level. 839 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: And that's just going to mean having to sell for 840 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: lower draft position, and I think that's a trade off 841 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: that a lot of people would take at this point, 842 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: having a lot of confidence in the guys that they've 843 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: picked up over the last couple of drafts. And yeah, 844 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: like BA is really what we consider the gold standard 845 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: for a lot of our information at Fish Stripes. To 846 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: some extent, we do parrot some of the evaluations that 847 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: you guys form when you collaborate together, and it's just 848 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: a really good resource. And I always encourage people to 849 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: subscribe to Baseball America when they can, and I know 850 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: that you're a pretty big part of that. Even though 851 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: you like to defer some credit, you see them pretty 852 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: modest about your opinions as just a guy that watched baseball. 853 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 3: But we've been aware of you for quite a while 854 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 3: and we know you're pretty talented at evaluating. So that's 855 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: Carlos Klaso. Thanks America. 856 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: Thank thank you for the kind words, and we do 857 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: appreciate you guys subscribing, and we appreciate anyone who subscribes because, 858 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 2: i mean, like J. J. Cooper says all the time, 859 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: we really couldn't do all this without the amount of 860 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 2: support and the subscribers that we have. You guys are 861 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: the reason we're able to spend so much time. I mean, 862 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: you guys are the reason that I'm able to spend 863 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: really the entire year focusing on the draft outside of 864 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: like a month. So without you guys, we wouldn't be 865 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 2: able to do the work that we do. So we're 866 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: really thankful and grateful for. 867 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 3: That, and we're grateful to have you on the pod. 868 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: So we'll be sure to check in with you as 869 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: this draft cycle unfolds, and we're gonna be following all 870 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: your work on D eight. So enjoy the rest of 871 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: the night, the rest of this postseason. That's Carlos COLASO 872 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: here on earning their stripes. Thank you so much, Carlos. 873 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 3: This is great. 874 00:39:51,280 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. This is blessed any 875 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: one made