WEBVTT - Craig Counsell’s quick hook, New Padres owners tease spending plans

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it's Patrick Mooney from Northside Territory and The Athletic.

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<v Speaker 1>He covers the Cubs.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick, good to see you. I know you just put

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<v Speaker 2>something out on Justin Steele. I did want to actually

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<v Speaker 2>start there and relate it to really what the pitching

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<v Speaker 2>plan is going to look like for the Cubs, who

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<v Speaker 2>actually have to still play the next month, but should

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<v Speaker 2>be in somewhat of a postseason prep mode, too.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are we thinking here?

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like start to start, you're wondering, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>who's up, who's down, who's going to get that game

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<v Speaker 3>one win. Simon and Kevin Gosman looked awesome Monday night

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<v Speaker 3>at Chase Field. You had Craig Council managing with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of urgency the day before in Seattle and pulling

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<v Speaker 3>Shota Minaga pretty quickly. And then they have this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fleet of pitchers waiting in the wings here. They

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<v Speaker 3>got a very crowded Arizona complex of guys rehabbing and

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<v Speaker 3>coming back and they're probably going to need some of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys seeing as how they're, you know, likely making

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs as a wildcard team and having to win

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<v Speaker 3>four rounds if they want to achieve their ultimate goal.

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<v Speaker 4>And, you know, Steele is.

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<v Speaker 3>One of those guys I would kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Craig Council made a point to temper some of those expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this is someone who hasn't pitched in a

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<v Speaker 3>real game since April, 2025, but he's been making nice

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<v Speaker 3>progress and, they could probably use some of his talent

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<v Speaker 3>from the left side, particularly if they keep advancing.

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<v Speaker 5>Patrick, would he be a bullpen option? Would they be

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<v Speaker 5>willing to put him into the bullpen and let him pitch,

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<v Speaker 5>even though he's mainly been a starter his entire career

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<v Speaker 5>and he's been out for so long?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that an option for Justin Steele?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he'd have to jump ahead of a

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<v Speaker 3>couple guys. The Cubs are already dealing with this roster crunch.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Javier Assad's been so good for them, and

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<v Speaker 3>he just got options to AAA Iowa again. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Brown is someone who's going to factor into this

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Today's a busy day over at the Mesa Complex.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Brown and Justin Steele scheduled to throw live batting

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<v Speaker 3>practice sessions today.

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<v Speaker 4>Edward Cabrera throwing a bullpen. They're going to have options.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Steele's point was like, I was a reliever

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<v Speaker 3>when I broke into the majors and did pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>job with that. And then took, just took advantage after

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<v Speaker 3>the Cubs, you know, did their sell-off at the 21 deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think Brown is the guy that is

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<v Speaker 3>just on a quicker path back and has done both

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<v Speaker 3>roles this year, but certainly The point I made was

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<v Speaker 3>I was at Chase Field when Kyle Schwarber crashed into

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<v Speaker 3>Dexter Fowler, and we thought this was a season-ending, career-altering injury,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just in a totally different way. He

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<v Speaker 3>did surprise everyone and make it back, and that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have to allow for that possibility that

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he does finally get that moment in October after

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<v Speaker 3>what's been a really long road back from a major

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<v Speaker 3>arm injury.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, so you're saying Steele's going to be used

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<v Speaker 6>for a short burst. Cabrera could be used as short bursts.

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<v Speaker 6>Ben Brown, all those guys are used. Does that change

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<v Speaker 6>how they would build that playoff rotation? Or do you

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<v Speaker 6>still think if Gossman trends the way he did in

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<v Speaker 6>his last start, he's the number one starter, and then

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<v Speaker 6>you save all these short bursts for Boyd, for Imanaga,

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<v Speaker 6>guys who have a tougher time third time through the order,

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<v Speaker 6>even maybe even second time through a platoon order.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys know how managers run their pitching staffs in

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs now, like, you know, getting three and two

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<v Speaker 3>thirds or four and a third. And, you know, there's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you get a standing ovation, you know, walking off the field.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, I think Gosman and Clay Holmes were acquired

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<v Speaker 3>to be starting pitchers in a playoff rotation and, Matthew

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<v Speaker 3>Boyd was a Game 1 playoff starter last year, opening

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<v Speaker 3>day starter this year, an All-Star the year before, has

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<v Speaker 3>a nice baseline of playoff experience. I would figure that

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<v Speaker 3>he would operate as a starter, and all these guys

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<v Speaker 3>are going to have short leashes. You guys know how

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<v Speaker 3>Craig Council operates. They put this puzzle together. They've done

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<v Speaker 3>a really good job with it amidst just a barrage

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<v Speaker 3>of pitching injuries. And so you also have, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're working backwards as well, you know, Daniel Palencia

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<v Speaker 3>just came back and he was, you know, just an

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<v Speaker 3>electric reliever last year. He brings something totally different, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>100 mile hour fastball, swing and miss stuff. Jacob Webb

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<v Speaker 3>has been really good in the interim as a closer.

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<v Speaker 3>And so while I feel like I'm being way too

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<v Speaker 3>positive for AJ's taste, I feel like they will have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of options and they can see if it

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<v Speaker 3>works down the stretch here.

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<v Speaker 6>AJ is not a negative person. How dare you offend

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<v Speaker 6>my friend like that? He's just not a positive person

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<v Speaker 6>towards the Cubs.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. Gotcha. That's fair. That's totally fair. That's totally fair.

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<v Speaker 6>Is there a drop-dead date on any of these guys

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<v Speaker 6>because they're filtering into a new role in the sense

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<v Speaker 6>of if Edward Cabrera's bullpen, you know, this whole thing

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<v Speaker 6>slowly and we get to September 15th, You can't just

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<v Speaker 6>throw starters into the pen and be like, you get

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<v Speaker 6>one outing, and then we need you in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not the reality that we live in.

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<v Speaker 3>Eric, I think you could probably speak to this even

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<v Speaker 3>better than I could, that Craig Council is a very

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<v Speaker 3>direct communicator. He gives players good news, bad news, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is. He tells them the truth, and they've gotten

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<v Speaker 3>some pretty good buy-in really recently.

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<v Speaker 4>All phases of their roster.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, Ian Happ wants to be playing every single day,

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<v Speaker 3>but they went out and acquired a nice role player

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<v Speaker 3>at the trade deadline. That cuts into his playing time.

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<v Speaker 3>David Peterson, we haven't even mentioned him yet. He kind

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<v Speaker 3>of saved this rotation when they acquired him from the

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<v Speaker 3>Mets in late June, and he got bounced after the

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<v Speaker 3>trade deadline to make room for Cabrera, and he got

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<v Speaker 3>You know, four big outs in a win over the

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox at Wrigley Field and then went back into

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<v Speaker 3>the rotation in Seattle and, you know, pitched a really

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<v Speaker 3>nice game there. So, you know, if you look at

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<v Speaker 3>this rotation right now, I think it's like five guys

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<v Speaker 3>who've been an all-star at some point in their career,

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<v Speaker 3>but not that traditional number one starter. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>why they gave Craig Council that huge contract is to

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<v Speaker 3>go figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 5>He'll figure it out, Patrick. By the way, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>negative at all. And I don't even agree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been actually very positive on the Cubs for a

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<v Speaker 5>long time. When we talked when I was at Wrigley,

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<v Speaker 5>I said PCS would be the MVP for a while.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I've been very positive on the Cubs for

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<v Speaker 5>this entire year or so. I don't appreciate that, Patrick.

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<v Speaker 5>But what I don't understand is Craig Council the other

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<v Speaker 5>day took Shodan Minaga out.

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<v Speaker 4>After, what was it, two and a third?

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<v Speaker 5>Two plus two plus yeah two plus yeah and they

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<v Speaker 5>and and he's like okay with the three run lead

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<v Speaker 5>and he's like all right we're it's go time so

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<v Speaker 5>is he just prepping for the playoffs and by the

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<v Speaker 5>way before you answer this question cub fans when they

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<v Speaker 5>released jameson tyon i said jameson tyon has been serviceable

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<v Speaker 5>they annihilated for me for saying that their big stat

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<v Speaker 5>that they said was he had given up so many

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<v Speaker 5>home runs should aminaga has given up 30 home runs

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<v Speaker 5>should they release him too.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, no, they shouldn't. He's been their best pitcher this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I mean, he's been the most consistent thing. Home

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<v Speaker 4>runs aren't the most. Okay. Just checking. Just trying to

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<v Speaker 4>figure this out. Cup fans love you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would actually say that. I don't, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like cups fans really focus on show does bad outings that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, his body of work over almost three full

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<v Speaker 3>seasons in the majors has been really impressive. Uh, you know, he,

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<v Speaker 3>He's performed at an all-star level, but he just did

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<v Speaker 3>not have it on Sunday afternoon in Seattle. And your

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<v Speaker 3>counsel looks at this bullpen. He's got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>long relievers there. He basically said as soon as Ian

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<v Speaker 3>Happ hit that home run. he started thinking, like, if

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<v Speaker 3>Shota doesn't pick it up here, we're going to make

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<v Speaker 3>a change. And his velo was down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it took 72 pitches to get six outs,

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<v Speaker 3>three first-pitch strikes to 14 batters. I just think Shota,

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<v Speaker 3>the way last season ended for Shota really just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stands out the way they avoided using him for

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<v Speaker 3>that game five in Milwaukee. I don't think that's like

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<v Speaker 3>totally fair, but like that's why they went out and

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<v Speaker 3>got a ton of pitching at the deadline so that

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<v Speaker 3>they would not run out, you know, almost after that

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<v Speaker 3>wildcard round. I mean, you saw it, they kind of

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<v Speaker 3>poured all their resources into being the Padres and then

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Boyd, starting on short rest, game one Milwaukee, that

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<v Speaker 3>was not a very competitive game. And even council acknowledged

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<v Speaker 3>if they had somehow won that game five, it was

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<v Speaker 3>really difficult to see them having enough pitching to win

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<v Speaker 3>two more playoff rounds. And so I think that while

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<v Speaker 3>Shota's probably not getting the ball for game one of

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs, I think for them to get to where

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<v Speaker 3>they want to go, they'll need The version of him

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<v Speaker 3>that he's been for most of his time in Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>is just the home runs and the blowout outings really

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<v Speaker 3>just stand out in your memory as you watch this team.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe a little exhausted from being used throughout the entire season,

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<v Speaker 6>the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 4>But hey, you know what?

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<v Speaker 6>You just got to get hot in the playoffs. Let's

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<v Speaker 6>go to the one big free agent acquisition that the

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<v Speaker 6>Cubs had this offseason. You wrote an article about Alex

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<v Speaker 6>Bregman and what he has meant to this team. Has

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<v Speaker 6>he been worth every penny, even though his numbers wouldn't say, ooh,

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<v Speaker 6>all-star MVP type of numbers? Has he been worth it

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<v Speaker 6>based on the fact that this team is where they are?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess it depends on, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>what you value. And I think with Bregman, the Cubs

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<v Speaker 3>thought he would have this high floor, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>with his defense at that particular position. That's a spot

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<v Speaker 3>where you can accumulate value. and as well as they

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<v Speaker 3>thought he would bring a ton of intangibles. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is a very model-driven team, a very unsentimental operation, but

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<v Speaker 3>they thought that he could be a special connector in

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<v Speaker 3>their group. And I think he's just fit in really

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<v Speaker 3>well in that regard. He's finally getting hot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I was there one late night at Wrigley where he

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<v Speaker 3>spoke to a small group of us and just said,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been terrible. Like he did the thumbs down gesture

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<v Speaker 3>at Wrigley at one point too. It's been interesting to cover.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure Cubs fans at various points were like, why

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<v Speaker 3>were they so obsessed with this guy? Because they were

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<v Speaker 3>over multiple off seasons as a free agent, but watching

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<v Speaker 3>him day to day, he is a really, really nice

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<v Speaker 3>defender at third base, a position that's been kind of

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<v Speaker 3>hard to fill for the Cubs over the years. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he fits well in this lineup when you piece

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<v Speaker 3>it together kind of left-right and having different skills and

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<v Speaker 3>different ways to beat your opponent. And he has this

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<v Speaker 3>reputation for being a baseball gym rat and that he

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<v Speaker 3>was not going to stop until he found that feel

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<v Speaker 3>to have a better sense of his mechanics. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're kind of seeing it now. I mean, walking

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<v Speaker 3>away last October, I think the Cubs felt they were

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<v Speaker 3>a little short on the position player side. They knew

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<v Speaker 3>that Kyle Tucker was leaving and that this is the

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<v Speaker 3>guy that they had circled. They knew kind of how

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<v Speaker 3>weak this upcoming free agent class would be. They felt

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<v Speaker 3>that he would just be a good solid overall investment.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you're, you're seeing that now.

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<v Speaker 5>Patrick, can you do me a favor? Can you go like,

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<v Speaker 5>can you put both hands above like this? Can you

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<v Speaker 5>just go like this for me?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, why?

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<v Speaker 4>What's this? Just, just do it. It's not bad. No,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a trap at all. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Now last night when you were sitting in the press box,

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<v Speaker 5>were you the one signaling to Quentin Barry when Merrill

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<v Speaker 5>Kelly was going changeups?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. It was, you have like a, a flash, a pen,

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<v Speaker 4>like the, your laser pointer.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, no, it's hard to hear to like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hear your own thoughts at Chase Fields sometimes. Cause they

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of piped in noise and things like that. But, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was a good one. I actually noticed it more, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>on the foul territory popped up on my, uh, Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>field there, uh, Twitter feed there. Um, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>would actually like Eric's thoughts on this because I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like he's been on the show before saying how the

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<v Speaker 3>Brewers were pretty good at, uh, you know, finding the

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<v Speaker 3>Cubs weaknesses in that regards when they weren't totally buttoned up. But,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there'll be something to follow up for sure

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<v Speaker 3>on today. I think it's two teams competing. Craig Council

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<v Speaker 3>called it gamesmanship that happens every single day in this league.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I'm curious what you guys as former players think.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything to see there?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, of course, there's something to see there. But

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<v Speaker 6>my question to you is, you've been around this team.

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<v Speaker 6>Are they a fiery, feisty team that when the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 6>throw at one of their players today, they will just say, eh, whatever?

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<v Speaker 6>Because you sense those kinds of things when you're in

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<v Speaker 6>a clubhouse talking to both teams. Do you think there

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<v Speaker 6>will be some type of retaliation? Do the Diamondbacks do

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<v Speaker 6>something tonight and the Cubs, what's their reaction to it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know the Diamondbacks well enough in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>I do feel like these are two teams competing for

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<v Speaker 3>a playoff spot. I think the Cubs in general, like

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<v Speaker 3>this group, why Bregman was such a fit is because

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<v Speaker 3>they do have these baseball gym rats who do like

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<v Speaker 3>to study the game and kind of obsess over their

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<v Speaker 3>craft and look.

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<v Speaker 4>At the finer details. Within the game, this is not

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<v Speaker 4>a group.

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<v Speaker 3>That all shows up on the late bus or is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just sitting at their lockers looking at their

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<v Speaker 3>phone for hours and hours before the game.

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<v Speaker 4>They're pretty engaged.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you look at Quentin Berry's resume, the

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<v Speaker 3>job that he carved out in the majors required as

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<v Speaker 3>a designated pinch runner on some great teams required a

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<v Speaker 3>really high level of attention to detail um so yeah

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<v Speaker 3>i'll certainly be asking around about that uh today as

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<v Speaker 3>when we were in the clubhouse i was in the

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<v Speaker 3>cubs visiting clubhouse so i wasn't really aware of uh

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<v Speaker 3>kelly's comments until my colleague at the athletic johnny floris

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<v Speaker 3>alerted me he wrote up a good story uh on

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<v Speaker 3>the athletic and i would recommend you check that out

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<v Speaker 3>i think it's It'll be fun to watch tonight. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like at Chase Field when the Cubs come into town,

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<v Speaker 3>there's usually a couple unusual things that happen. We'll see

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<v Speaker 3>how much spillover there is tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to continue this combo with AJ and Kratz.

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<v Speaker 2>We have that Merrill Kelly sound too. So we'll let

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick jump and get ready for the next round of

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<v Speaker 2>a potential boxing match with those two.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick, thank you. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk to Marty Caswell about the new look San

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<v Speaker 2>Diego Padres.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear her on Friar Territory, of course. Marty,

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<v Speaker 1>great to catch up with you again.

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<v Speaker 2>I say new look because, I don't know, do we

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<v Speaker 2>want to go the route of how well the team

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<v Speaker 2>is playing in August, best team in baseball this month,

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<v Speaker 2>and how it correlates with the ownership group taking over?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with the ownership group because you were at

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<v Speaker 2>the pomp and circumstance, right, yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>So how was it? How are the new owners making

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<v Speaker 1>themselves seen and heard on day one?

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, Scott. Hi, Eric. And hi, AJ.

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<v Speaker 9>I have never been to a press conference like that

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<v Speaker 9>in my entire life. And I've covered, I told this

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<v Speaker 9>to Prowler afterwards, I've covered like hundreds of press conferences.

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<v Speaker 9>And it started differently with like this music, this energetic music.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's something that Kwanzaa Jones, the co-owner of the Padres,

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<v Speaker 9>produced and wrote. And she was apparently inspired by a

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<v Speaker 9>key phrase from a grand slam that Fernando Tatis robbed.

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<v Speaker 9>So it was unlike anything I've ever seen at Petco Park.

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<v Speaker 9>The enthusiasm coming from her was just contagious. The vibe

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<v Speaker 9>that she and her husband, Jose, the synergy they had,

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<v Speaker 9>it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>Of fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 9>So if you're a Padres fan watching it, They hit

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<v Speaker 9>all the right notes. They said all the right things,

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<v Speaker 9>wanting to go ahead and win, invest in San Diego,

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<v Speaker 9>invest in the Padres, and also honor Peter Siler's legacy.

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<v Speaker 9>So they hit all the right notes. It was a

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<v Speaker 9>pretty fun day until the game started.

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<v Speaker 5>Marty, one thing they said that was interesting, you said

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<v Speaker 5>they want to win, but they said they want to win,

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<v Speaker 5>what is it?

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<v Speaker 4>I forget the exact, responsibly? Yes. Right? Not like Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>Judiciously.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, because they were asked about, you know, because Peter

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<v Speaker 9>Seidler was aggressive in free agency, right?

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<v Speaker 8>This is the guy that wasn't afraid to go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>And throw $ 300 million at Manny Machado and then, oh,

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<v Speaker 9>by the way, give him another 10-year extension. This is

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<v Speaker 9>the guy who went after Xander Bogarts. This is the

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<v Speaker 9>guy who flew out, who sent his private jet to

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<v Speaker 9>pick up Aaron Judge and try.

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<v Speaker 8>And sign him. So, So Peter Seidler was.

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<v Speaker 9>Aggressive, and the line that stood out to me was

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<v Speaker 9>they were going to go ahead and spend within their means.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm waiting to find out what that means. I know

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<v Speaker 9>Padres fans are as well. They've paid $ 3. 95 billion for

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<v Speaker 9>the Padres, and what we know about them right now,

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<v Speaker 9>they are the richest ownership group the Padres have ever had.

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<v Speaker 9>So perhaps within their means could mean something good. We're

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<v Speaker 9>not going to find out, though, until the offseason really

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<v Speaker 9>kicks in.

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<v Speaker 8>I hope they spend though.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we all hope they spend because San Diego is

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<v Speaker 5>an awesome place to watch a game. It's incredible. But

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<v Speaker 5>what I want to know is, did you get a bonus?

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<v Speaker 5>Because apparently you get a bonus. I get a bonus.

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<v Speaker 4>Scott gets a bonus. The usher in the ticket thing

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<v Speaker 4>gets a bonus, right?

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<v Speaker 5>The scoreboard operator, the guy who paints the foul poles

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<v Speaker 5>gets a bonus.

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<v Speaker 4>And Marty, did you get a bonus?

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<v Speaker 8>I should get a bonus.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm going to go ahead and check my inbox after

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<v Speaker 9>this and see if I'm getting a share. I did

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<v Speaker 9>see that story that every full-time and part-time employee of

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<v Speaker 9>the Padres is going to get a bonus because the

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<v Speaker 9>partners of the Padres, those who have shares in the Padres,

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<v Speaker 9>are contributing towards a bonus pool.

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<v Speaker 8>And they're all going to make some money. What a

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<v Speaker 8>nice gesture on the way out.

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<v Speaker 9>I like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody likes Christmas money. I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Kratz, she does get a bonus, actually. Just bring it

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<v Speaker 1>in for a sec.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard the bonus for you, Marty, is that you

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<v Speaker 2>get an exclusive interview with A.J. Preller at some undetermined time.

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<v Speaker 4>Good luck.

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<v Speaker 9>It's going to happen. I'm going to follow this. I

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<v Speaker 9>will break this man down. I got him on camera.

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<v Speaker 9>I let him know he's under oath.

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<v Speaker 8>And he did say, okay, Friar Territory won't be this week.

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<v Speaker 8>It'll be next week.

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<v Speaker 9>But he did mention they've got a tough, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>wildcard chase going.

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<v Speaker 8>He'll come on. Big fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 4>100%.

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<v Speaker 9>What's the one burning question you'd want to ask AJ

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<v Speaker 9>Preller when that time does come?

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<v Speaker 4>Why he won't come on foul territory?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one burning question.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the one burning question. Because then if we get

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<v Speaker 4>him on, we can ask him like 20 questions. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, Marty, I just wanted to say this.

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<v Speaker 5>When I saw Preller in San Diego, last time I

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<v Speaker 5>was in San Diego, it was last year now. I

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<v Speaker 5>talked to him and I said something to him about

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<v Speaker 5>coming on. He's like, Oh no, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>really watch those shows. I don't, I don't really know

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<v Speaker 5>what you're talking about. And then two minutes later in

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<v Speaker 5>the conversation, he's like, but I saw this thing that

0:23:25.470 --> 0:23:29.810
<v Speaker 5>you said on your show. And I was like, wait.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you didn't watch.

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<v Speaker 5>It was Ken and I were talking to him and

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 5>he dresses like a surfer guy. I mean, he's got

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<v Speaker 5>the San Diego vibe down.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give him that.

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<v Speaker 8>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 9>You guys are the right guys to ask this question.

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<v Speaker 9>When players say, because Manny Machado is the ultimate guy

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<v Speaker 9>who'll say, I don't pay attention to what they say

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<v Speaker 9>on social media. This is a guy that deleted his

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<v Speaker 9>Instagram account, I think, last year. But Manny Machado sees

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<v Speaker 9>and hears everything because when he's mad at us, he

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<v Speaker 9>will say, but you guys said this and you guys

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<v Speaker 9>don't believe in us. So when players say they don't

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<v Speaker 9>hear it, they don't read it, they don't.

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<v Speaker 8>Pay attention, I don't believe you. They see everything. And

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<v Speaker 8>so does AJ Prowler.

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<v Speaker 6>Marty, AJ watches all your stuff. And so when AJ

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<v Speaker 6>watches this interview, just make sure he knows that we

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<v Speaker 6>will mic each other up and he and I will

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<v Speaker 6>play one-on-one basketball at his, whatever court he chooses so

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<v Speaker 6>he can have home field advantage. And I'll ask questions

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<v Speaker 6>while I lock him down on, in a one-on-one game.

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<v Speaker 6>So we meet him at his court.

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<v Speaker 9>You think you could take him because this, this is,

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<v Speaker 9>this is the base. This is how you loop him

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<v Speaker 9>into an interview.

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<v Speaker 8>You've seen him.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 6>I've seen it back in 2016. I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 6>difference in height and defensive ability. So he's a good player.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a good player, but we're not playing horse. He

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<v Speaker 6>would beat me in a game of horse. But anyway, AJ,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you for watching Marty's stuff. But now I have

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<v Speaker 6>to ask the team on the field. Because Steven Souza

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<v Speaker 6>was getting absolutely ripped, asked if he should be fired,

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<v Speaker 6>the hitting coach for the Padres, should Steven Souza get

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<v Speaker 6>a three-year extension based on the changes that he made

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<v Speaker 6>during the All-Star game?

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, Eric, I don't know that the Padres ever give

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<v Speaker 9>three years extensions to their hitting coach.

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<v Speaker 8>The advice I always give.

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<v Speaker 9>Them is you don't buy, you rent in San Diego

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<v Speaker 9>because you never know. They've got, I think I've counted,

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<v Speaker 9>they've gone through like 14 different hitting coaches, like in the,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not sure under AJ Prowler, but like in the

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<v Speaker 9>Petco Park area, it's a revolving door there. And by

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<v Speaker 9>the way, I know when, when Craig Stammen was asked about,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, the adjustments, like what's been changing for Neno Tatis,

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<v Speaker 9>And he credited Steven Souza, but he also credited another

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<v Speaker 9>hitting coach, Rolo Padron, and the impact he's had on

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<v Speaker 9>these players. So I don't think it's any one guy.

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<v Speaker 9>They'll talk about players now buying into the message and

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<v Speaker 9>taking the information and executing.

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<v Speaker 8>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>Again, it can be feast or famine. They can go

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<v Speaker 9>from one series looking like the best offensive team in baseball,

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<v Speaker 9>and then they can have a night like last night

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<v Speaker 9>where they struggle to go and execute and do anything

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<v Speaker 9>with runners in scoring position.

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<v Speaker 8>So he does get credit. Does he get credit? Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>because he got a ton of blame.

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<v Speaker 9>But you have players like Ty France and Gavin Sheets

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<v Speaker 9>who are crediting Steven Souza for his consistent messaging and

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<v Speaker 9>what he is teaching them.

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<v Speaker 8>So it remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 9>But no, the Padres never give extensions to their hitting

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<v Speaker 9>coaches because that is the ultimate revolving door.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Marty, last one real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>Since Don and mud, Don or solo and mud have

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<v Speaker 5>been mud grant, have been awarded for the second year

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<v Speaker 5>row as the best local television announcers. Can Don or

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<v Speaker 5>silos mug fit through the doors of Petco park when

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<v Speaker 5>he walks around now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't know. That dome is still fits.

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<v Speaker 8>It still fits. It still fits. Now if he, Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>he's a gem. Maybe you get his bobblehead.

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<v Speaker 9>They are so wildly popular that not only do they

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<v Speaker 9>have the Don and Mud first bobblehead night a couple

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<v Speaker 9>of weeks ago, but by popular demand, it's returning in

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<v Speaker 9>a couple of weeks. So Don and Mud, they're quite

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<v Speaker 9>the pair together, but I think for him, the ultimate

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<v Speaker 9>prize isn't winning best broadcaster. It's catching the big fish.

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<v Speaker 9>If you follow Don or Solo on IG, you will

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<v Speaker 9>always see when he's catching in the waters off the Coronado.

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<v Speaker 8>His big one's about fishing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, his big one is about this big, too, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way. His big one is about 8 inches, 9,

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<v Speaker 4>10 inches.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he calls his mini-yacht, and he can't take more

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<v Speaker 5>than one person on his mini-yacht because the weight limit

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<v Speaker 5>is like 300 pounds. I'm like, Don, why can't we

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<v Speaker 5>go fishing? And Don said, well, the weight limit on

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<v Speaker 5>the mini-yacht is like 300 pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a one-seater?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a two-seater, but they better be small people.

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<v Speaker 4>And Don isn't exactly... Checking in at about 120.

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<v Speaker 8>No, he's lost some weight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he's still not 120.

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<v Speaker 9>Not 120, but he's felt.

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<v Speaker 8>He's buying into the San Diego lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>He's eating like me. Marty, thank you so much. Good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you.

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<v Speaker 8>Great seeing you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Marty, tell Don I asked that too, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Marty and Darren. Friar Territory, part of the FT Network.

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<v Speaker 4>New ownership group.

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<v Speaker 1>They talked about it.