1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Walking back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, we are 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: continuing to monitor the ongoing vote for the House leadership 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: for who's going to be the speaker. The seventh vote 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: now underway, and as we've said, Kevin McCarthy is not 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: going to get two hundred and eighteen votes in Matt 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: tally as well, we will see whether any of the 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: twenty that had been opposing him are going to move 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: off of that opposition or where we are, whether we 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: are still effectively in a log jam situation with roughly 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: two hundred voting in favor of him to be speaker 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: and around twenty voting against him being speaker. But I 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: tease this, the details are now coming out on the 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Brian Coburger. I think I'm pronouncing that name last name correctly. 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but he is the 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Washington State teacher assistant PhD student who has been arrested 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: and charged with the quadruple murder at the University of Idaho, 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: and the details now on the evidence for why he 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: has been charged are coming out, and I wanted to 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: share some of these details because we've talked about this 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: case quite a lot, and I know many of you 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: have been following it aggressively and frankly, some of these 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: details are chilling and they actually raise even more issues. 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: So and we're reading right now from TMZ. The DNA 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: was found of the killer Kolberger on a knife sheath 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: at the scene of the Idaho murder. They then made 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: a match on that DNA by going through trash at 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: his family's house and they say finding his dad's DNA 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: which confirmed that there was that connection with Brian. This 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: is according to the arrest warrant. And he was driving 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: if you remember this HONDEI Elantra, the white car, and 31 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: on the data the murders, there were several videos showing 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: that white Elantra driving by the murder house before stopping 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: at four oh four am, and then surveillance video shows 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: the car leaving at four twenty am at a high 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: rate of speed. And they also some other details here. 36 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: The one that I think is the most staggering. One 37 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: of the survivors in this house, one of the two 38 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: women on the first floor, says she saw a man 39 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: five ten or taller, not very muscular, but athletically built, 40 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: with bushy eyebrows, wearing black clothing with a mask she said, 41 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: the man walked right past her as she stood in 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: a frozen shock phase, walked past her and left the house. Fuck, 43 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: this is crazy. Now he turned off his cell phone. 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Some of you have been asking, hey, why would there 45 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: not be cell phone records two forty seven am phone 46 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: left his residence and didn't pick up again until five 47 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: thirty am. So he turned his phone off. But as 48 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: all these details come out, buck he'd also been twelve 49 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: times based on cell phone data, close to this house 50 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: late at NAP, which suggests that he may have been 51 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: stalking one or more of the people in this house. 52 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: But if anything, I can't get past the idea that 53 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: this person would have seen someone and then not called 54 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: police when that happened. There has to be something that 55 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: we don't know one thing, and I want to return 56 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: to that because I read through this update on the 57 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: case as well and thought to myself, you see a 58 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: masked stranger at what was at four o'clock in the 59 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: morning or something in the hallway of your house, and 60 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 1: you don't think that's a problem that you would call 61 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: you first of all, check on your roommates. You wouldn't. 62 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: You wouldn't scream, You wouldn't check on your roommates. You 63 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: call please. Now, there may be something that I'm missing here. 64 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that would be, but you know, 65 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um Also, I also think it's her 66 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: buck Like, if you've already killed four people and somebody 67 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: sees you, I wouldn't think you'd be like, well, you know, 68 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I can't kill five people. I think because he you know, 69 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: killing somebody with a knife if they're if they're trying 70 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: to defend themselves, they're standing up, is not is a 71 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: lot harder, obviously than stabbing somebody in their sleep, which 72 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: is what this guy did. He come four people in 73 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: their sleep, so maybe he didn't want to And obviously 74 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: if he if he had gone after with a knife, 75 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I'd assume she would have screamed. She might have woken 76 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: up neighbors. It sounds almost like this person the survivor. Look, 77 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to speculate. I don't know, 78 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: but like, was she in a sleep state or was 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: she not really straight? Is bizarre. But on the law 80 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: enforcement side of this, I say, remember we talked about this, 81 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: We had Nancy Grace on this all happened? What was 82 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: it November thirte of last year. Here we are now 83 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: January fifth. There were no details about this at all 84 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: for weeks. Yeah, there were people who were sincerely concerned 85 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: that the police had boxed the investigation that no leads. 86 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: It turns out now that we see this, they have 87 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: this guy in custody, that the cops did a very 88 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: good job of keeping it very when we've raised this 89 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: as a possibility, maybe there's a lot they're just not 90 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: letting out there. They don't want to to give any 91 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: indication to the suspect that they're onto them. They knew, 92 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: they knew a lot. I mean the fact that they 93 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: had a sheath, They had a sheath for a knife 94 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: at the scene with DNA, they had an eyewitness to 95 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: the individual. Now we did have a mask on another 96 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: This is a side note, but I've always said there's 97 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why I posed masks. The widespread 98 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: wearing of masks actually makes us all less safe, to 99 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: this notion that people can go around. Then you know, 100 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: if someone walks into a bank with a ski mask 101 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: gone and it's seventy degrees outside, you think yourself, something 102 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: weird's happening here. Someone goes in with one of these, 103 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, and ninety five masks on because of COVID. Anyway, um, 104 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: the cops knew a lot more about this than they 105 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: were letting on, which is obviously good thing. They've got 106 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: an individual who I mean, you know, innocent until proven guilty. 107 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: This guy looks about as guilty as you're gonna find 108 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: anybody at this stage of an investigation, given the DNA 109 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: evidence at the scene. No explanation for this. Everything we 110 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: know about him. He apparently also at the bottom of 111 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: this of this article, Clay, he applied for an internship 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: with the Pullman I guess suppose Pullman, Idaho Police Department. 113 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Pullman Washington. We're Washington, Washington, Okay, thank you. Washington State 114 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: is ten miles yeah, yeah, university in the fall of 115 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So this guy's studying what criminology and 116 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: applying for police department internships and now he's in custody 117 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: for a just truly heinous quadruple murder. But a lot 118 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: of the techniques that you and I talked about, cell 119 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: phone tracking, DNA, this is this is how they get this, 120 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: how they get people. This is how they are able 121 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: to get you know, get the suspects and bring people 122 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: to some measure of justice. Not only that buck he 123 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: was at TA. Can you imagine the conversations, like the 124 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: way we're talking about it, if you went to Washington State, 125 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: everybody had to be talking about those murders of the 126 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Idaho students all the time, probably with him. If you're 127 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: in a criminology department, I would imagine that this was 128 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: the number one topic by far. You're studying criminology and 129 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen miles from campus, four people are murdered 130 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: and they can't figure out who did it. He had 131 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: to be I would love to know from inside of 132 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Washington State. He had to be either with his students 133 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: or with his um you know, colleagues talking about this 134 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: murder all the time. You think committed it. You think 135 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: this guy was speculating about the murderers among students in 136 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: an auditorium or whatever this setup would be at his school. 137 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be the guy chilling. Yes, 138 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be super chilling as more and 139 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: more evidence comes out, because just think about it. If 140 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: you're a college kid at Washington State and you're in 141 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: a criminology course, this is one of the top stories 142 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: in America for people who are just living their normal lives. 143 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: For a criminology course, to have a murder like this 144 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: happened just a few miles from campus is unbelievable to occur. 145 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: The other thing we should mention Buck is they pulled over. 146 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you want to call in 147 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: and react to this, we took calls before eight hundred 148 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: two eight two two eight eight two. Maybe you're in 149 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: that area and you even interacted with this guy in 150 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: some way. Now that we know who the alleged murderer is, 151 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: if you want to share your story, I mean, like 152 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, if you're on that Washington State campus, 153 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: if you're at the University of Idaho, if you knew 154 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,119 Speaker 1: this guy, I would love to hear what those interactions 155 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: were like. But Buck, they had the FBI pull him 156 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: over in Indiana, reportedly because they wanted to see his hands, 157 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: because he drove with his dad back cross country to 158 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania for the winter break, and the report is out 159 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: there that they wanted to see whether there were any 160 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: injuries to his hands. So they pulled them over for 161 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: speeding in Indiana right at the behest of the FBI 162 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: and those injuries I would assume would have been um suffered, 163 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: uh you know, did those those cuts to his hands 164 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: from the knife slipping? Most likely that's what Actually people 165 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: don't think about that, but especially if it's a uh 166 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: and I don't think we haven't they haven't found them reporting, right, 167 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: they haven't seen the murder weapon. But if it's let's say, uh, 168 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, a standard kitchen knife that's not meant for 169 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: the you know for it's not a combat knife, so 170 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: your hand can slip down the handle very easily and 171 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: get and you can get cuts on your hand from that, 172 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: which I think is what they're looking for, because I 173 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: didn't see anything about their belief that there were there 174 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: would be defensive wounds from the victims, specific on his hands, 175 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: especially if they were asleep. I don't think you would 176 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: expect it really would be any defensive wounds or very 177 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: minimal defensive wounds, so um, you know, or certainly no 178 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: wounds on the aggressor either, I think Clay. Also, the 179 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: white Junde Ilantra came into play here, right, Yeah, they 180 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: reporting about that. Yeah, they were able to track it 181 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: and again they saw the car pass in the four 182 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: am hour multiple times, including driving away from that area 183 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: at a high rate of speed. You think we don't 184 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: know just based on the fact pattern, the fact that 185 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: there was it seems like at a minimum surveillance, right 186 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: it's it would be surveillance of his intended victims. But 187 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned the word stalking. I mean to me, that 188 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: implies the stalking might imply that he knew one of 189 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: the at least one of the boas. Do you know, 190 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: I just you know, I don't know. I'm just do 191 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: you think right now, there's a part of it. It 192 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: feels like it's hard to believe it's that random. Given 193 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: given the fact pattern, I think we're going to find 194 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: out that he knew one of the victims in some capacity, 195 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: or or was maybe obsessed with one of the victims 196 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: of some capacity. That it wasn't just a totally random 197 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: serial killer situation. That makes some sense to me and 198 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: even Buck, Like, when I saw this guy and when 199 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: I've been reading the details about him from high school 200 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: in college, he seems like a guy who had a 201 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: lot of troubles. This is not going to surprise people 202 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: typically unfortunately in stories like these with women in general. Right, Like, 203 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: he wasn't the kind of guy who got along well 204 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: with women. It wouldn't stun me if we find out 205 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: that he liked one of these girls, was out at 206 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: a bar, hit on her and like she gave him 207 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: a cold shoulder or something like that, and he became 208 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: obsessed with her from that point going forward. The other 209 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: thing that I think is going to loose here large is, frankly, 210 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: was this the first It has no record, right, It 211 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: seems stunning to me that the first ever crime you 212 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: would commit would be a quadruple murder. Are we going 213 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: to find out that is this guy has traversed the 214 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: country that maybe he's connected to some other crimes of 215 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: violence and gotten away with them before. Does that make sense? Like, 216 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: it's very rare from a criminology perspective for a guy 217 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: to just suddenly snap and commit a quadruple murder and 218 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: he's never broken the law before in a serious way. 219 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Usually you find out in these cases, as we all know, 220 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: just from you know, series like a mind Hunter and 221 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: these true crime and true detective series, that there's at 222 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: least a very common thing is violence against violence against 223 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: animals at a young age, you know, torturing of animals, 224 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: things like that. You know, there's usually a backstory to it. 225 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: We haven't seen much of that yet, but I think 226 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: you're right, we'll find out that this was not this 227 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: was not out of nowhere. And the one other thing 228 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: I would add, and again we'll take some calls on this, 229 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: because I know there was a great deal of interest 230 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: on this. I would think now that they found the 231 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: HONDEI a Lantra buck, that it would be virtually impossible 232 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: for their not to be murder residue in some way 233 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: inside of that car. Presuming that he committed a quadruple 234 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: murder and then left and got in that vehicle, no 235 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: matter how much he tried to clean it, I would 236 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: think that there would be some blood residue, some DNA 237 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: that would still be there. Not to mention, he had 238 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: to get rid of this knife somehow, and wherever this 239 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: knife is, whether they're able to retain it or not. 240 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: Just carrying that knife in the car and all these 241 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: things would also create I would think a lot of 242 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: DNA evidence. And if you remember, did you watch I'm 243 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: sure you did back in the day on Netflix Making 244 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: a Murder when everybody was watching that show. Did you 245 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: watch it? I actually saw a few episodes of it 246 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: and didn't see all of it. One of the parts 247 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: in there that is incredibly detailed is alleged blood evidence 248 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: on a car that was very old, you know. In general, 249 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: but the idea that he would have been able to 250 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: commit a quadruple murder get in that Hundai a Launtra 251 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: and not have led to left behind tons of evidence 252 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: I think is very unlikely as well. We'll have more 253 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: for you on this. Also. The House speaker vote switching 254 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: gears here to politics and Capitol Hill Clay. They are 255 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: moving on to their eighth eighth ballot. It keeps going on, folks. 256 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: We'll tell you where this is heading and what's happening 257 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: in a moment. I'm always thinking though about what this 258 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: economy is gonna look like this year. I'm sure you 259 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: are too. 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That's investing 276 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: with PHX dot Com or call them at three two 277 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: three Phoenix. From the front Lines of Freedom and Truth 278 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: Clave Travis and Buckston. Welcome back to Clay and buck 279 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: We were just talking about the latest now with the 280 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: eighth Underway House Speaker battle vote that's about to get started. 281 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: I think we all know that it's unlikely to settle 282 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: the issue, but it is it is moving on. This 283 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: also apparently won't settle the issue, but I wanted to 284 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: play it for you. Doctor Lena Winn, I'll remember her 285 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: one of the most well She was the ahead of 286 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood and then became one of the most prominent 287 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: CNN experts. Here she is saying once again, cloth masks useless. 288 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Play sixteen. Masking is not or nothing. It's not as 289 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: if either we are in the throws up the worst 290 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: of the pandemic and are putting on the mask at 291 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: all times, or we don't wear it at all. I 292 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: think a lot of people have that concept at this point, 293 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: and I've been saying this for the last year or so. 294 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: A cloth mask is little more than a visual decoration 295 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: if your goal is to kill. Can I just I 296 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: just want to jump in to say We've We've been 297 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: saying this all along. I've been saying that masks caught 298 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: that that this little you know, a little little club. 299 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Remember people were wearing like gators and these other you know, 300 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: they were wearing kerchips, bandanas. This will keep me safe 301 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: from the made us wear those buck to football games outdoors. 302 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: The little little mask that you pull up. I I'm 303 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: never letting this go. I'm never letting this go. All 304 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: the smug libs. Find a lib who took a photo 305 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: of themselves in a mask and then made it their 306 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: profile photo. How embarrassing. What a bunch of just go 307 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: with the crowd, cowards and industriles. The whole thing was 308 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: so ridiculous. There is you will not find a photo 309 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: of me or Clay masked anywhere. I think that's true. 310 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: I think that's actually true. Um, they're still wearing masks 311 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. Did you saw that. We were texting 312 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: about it last night, some of the reporters. I just 313 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: it really makes me sick to my stomach. I hate 314 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: these people who are still wearing masks. I'm just gonna 315 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: be honest with you. 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A lot of you want to weigh in 334 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: on the revelations coming out of Idaho. I also want 335 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: to give you some more details. One of our writers, 336 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: Bobby Barak, he does a really good job covering a 337 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: variety of stories and you can read him at OutKick. 338 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: He has got a good analysis of this Affid Davit 339 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: that now has been released in the Quadruple Murder. And 340 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: many of you want to weigh in, but I also 341 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: want to hit you with a few more details. We 342 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: were reading from TMZ earlier and this one is more 343 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: detailed about what the roommates saw, which to me and 344 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't know you agreed, Buck. The most staggering, like 345 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: difficult to understand part of this evidence now is this 346 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: roommate who on the first floor, allegedly waking up and 347 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: being aware. So I'm gonna read from this and then 348 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: let Buck react and then we'll take some of your calls. 349 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: The roommate awoke at four am, opened the door and 350 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: saw a masked man dressed in black inside the home. 351 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: According to the probable cause filing, which was just unsealed 352 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: in Idaho, the roommate saw thought she heard her woke 353 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: up because she thought she heard her roommate playing with 354 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: the dog on the third floor. A short time later, 355 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: she heard what she thought was the roommate saying there's 356 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: someone here. This is chilling. She then opened her door, 357 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: heard crying coming from one of her roommate's rooms and 358 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: a male voice saying it's okay, I'm going to help you. 359 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: The roommate then opened her door again around she says 360 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: four seventeen am, saw quote a figure clad in black 361 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: clothing and a mask that covered the person's mouth and 362 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: nose walking towards her. The mail walked past her, and 363 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: she says she stood in a frozen shock phase. That 364 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: is the um that is the report. So Buck, I mean, 365 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: this is yeah, it's crazy. And with that, with that 366 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: series of steps of facts, it does make it seem 367 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: that one of the victims may have spoken to the kills, 368 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: because we had been led to believe up to this 369 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: point that they were all totally asleep, totally asleep. Uh, man, 370 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: I this is it's very strange. So there are several 371 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: things that come to mind, and we'll take your calls. 372 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: Why does she not called the police? Right, that's the 373 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: part of this that I don't want to go too 374 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: far ahead of where this is in the facts, just 375 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: because you know there's gonna be a tremendous amount of 376 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure this individual feels, you know, very Uh. I 377 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: don't know how you'd ever sleep again if four people 378 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: got murdered in your house period, much less if you 379 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: saw the killer and and and then and apparently police 380 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: only showed up at eleven fifty eight am the next day, 381 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: almost at lunch time, was when the police actually got 382 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: there were called. So there must be some things. Look, 383 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: there was so much that was held back in the beginning. 384 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: I just think that we're gonna find out more in 385 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: the days ahead that will fill into because it doesn't 386 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: some of this doesn't make sense. How could you see 387 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: this person at this time be scared It's not like 388 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: she saw him and thought, oh, it's one of my 389 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: roommate's friends, and you know, I just went back to sleep, 390 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: be scared and not call the police at four seventeen 391 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: am and to have heard the things that, according to 392 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: this affidavit, she did here. Because remember, one of the 393 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: questions we've been asking for a while is how was 394 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: there no audio? You know, like, how did she not 395 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: wake up? How did they not hear? And also the 396 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: question I have two bucks and I would love to 397 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: hear from a police officer, why wouldn't you want it 398 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: known that there was an eyewitness? And the other question 399 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: I have if he'd already killed four people, why would 400 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: he walk past her? Remember that was one of the 401 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: questions we asked from the get go. We thought maybe 402 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: the doors were two survivors, right, Why did he kill 403 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: four people and leave this girl who he clearly saw 404 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: and not harm her like you would think. Again, if 405 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: you're a killer and you've already killed four people, having 406 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: someone as an eyewitness, you would expect at least I 407 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: would that the police might get called immediately. Also, why 408 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: didn't this girl walk upstairs and check when she saw 409 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: this stranger at four seventeen. Why wouldn't she have gone 410 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: upstairs and checked on her roommates right then? How much 411 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: different might this story have been if she had done 412 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: that as well? A lot of people have a lot 413 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: of questions about this. Obviously, this is every call we've 414 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: got in right now on the lines pertains to this case. 415 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Let's see Kat in North Carolina, cat you want to 416 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: weigh in on the Idaho slayings? What do you have 417 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: for us him? Well, now, after listening to everything that 418 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: you've been saying, it is chilling. But my one question 419 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: from the very beginning was why he did not harm 420 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: the dog and being vegan? Okay, not me, but this person. 421 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just another nail in the coffin 422 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: of his guilt. Well, I think if the dog wasn't 423 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: barking or making noise, he maybe wouldn't have seen it 424 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: as a as a threat. But the thing is that 425 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: obviously he can kill for people. The fact that he 426 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: didn't silence the dog because maybe the dog knew him, 427 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: or the way he was with animals. You know someone 428 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: that is good with animals, keep tom an animal down? 429 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know. That's something else that just nothing. 430 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: The dog the dog not creating a huge start. Thank 431 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: you for the call is something that many people have 432 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: raised as an issue. Now based on this report, it 433 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: sounds like the dog may have the thing that is 434 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: staggering to me, a lot of dogs bark and no 435 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: one pays attention, and it's almost like a car alarm, right. 436 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, people don't assume someone's breaking in, So don't 437 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: assume even if it's that. Don't make sense here from 438 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: a purely like if you saw someone at four seventeen 439 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: am wearing a mask, clad entirely in black inside of 440 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: your home, what percentage of you listening to me right 441 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: now would call police as soon as that person left, 442 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Or if you had roommates, go upstairs and check and 443 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: see how your roommates were. I think it's a huge percentage. 444 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: Did she go back to sleep after that? Because most 445 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: people You're right, that's a great question too. It's still 446 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: pitch black at four seventeen am. And the second part 447 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: of this, again from the killer perspective, why would he 448 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: not do something to her if you're trying to commit 449 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: the perfect crime. I mean, he's he's a psycho killer. 450 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: I think it's hard for anyone to try to get 451 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: into the motiva, especially because we don't even know the 452 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: full motivations. Did he know these? He might have known 453 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: all four of the people that he killed, and we 454 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: just don't know that yet, right, Maybe he didn't know this, 455 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: He might not have known the people in the first floor. 456 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: We don't know. Again, that's total specilation. If you're a 457 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: criminology student and you're a even if you're a psycho killer, 458 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: it seems quite clear that he didn't want to be caught, right, 459 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: So why would you allow someone who was a witness, 460 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: who could see you, you made eye contact with to 461 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: be Okay, that doesn't make a lot of sense to 462 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: me either. Well, I mean he would he would have 463 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: had to go after her, and maybe he's chase, you know, 464 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: who would have a chaser and the you know, there 465 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: might have been a more of a struggle. The fact 466 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: that he had the conversation, again based on the Affiday, 467 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: but we're just going on what the facts are as 468 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: we know them right now. That he had a conversation 469 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: with or any kind of exchange that didn't involve shouting, 470 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: screaming and oh my god, there's a crazy member of 471 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: the knife seem makes it seem like either the look man. 472 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: You remember, you remember what it was like when you 473 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: were in college. I remember it was like when I 474 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: was in college. You know, sometimes people are have had 475 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: a long night out, a lot of drinking, they're really 476 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: out of it. You know, you don't necessarily, you know, 477 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: the person may have been out of it having this 478 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: initial exchange. So that doesn't indicate to me necessarily that 479 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: they knew who this guy was or had any previous 480 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: interaction with him, but it certainly seems to raise that possibility. 481 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: So there's a lot more we're going to find out. 482 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: And again there's reports now that one of the people 483 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: was saying, hey, there's someone in here upstairs. Now, again, 484 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: it's different than maybe in many of our lives. Like 485 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: when if you are living in a college house and 486 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: there are six or five or whatever the number of 487 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: kids that lived in that house, there were there's constantly 488 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: boys and girls coming in and out. Right, this was 489 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: a party house. But when you see a guy dressed 490 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: all in black wearing a mask, this goes to your 491 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: point again, Buck, if we weren't in this era where 492 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: people were still wearing masks because they were concerned about 493 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: their health, then anytime you saw someone in a mask, 494 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: you'd be like, this dude is up to no good. 495 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: Right prior to three years ago, if you ever saw 496 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: somebody walking around in a black mask, you'd be like, 497 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: this person is trying to commit a crime. Yes, right, 498 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: So I argued this from the very beginning, by the way, 499 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: because there are actually public ordinances that say that unless 500 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, for your job for dust in hillation, or 501 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: if you're on a construction site, but you're not allowed 502 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: to wear a mask in public. And this was ignored 503 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: by the fauciite lunatics, of course, along with so many 504 00:28:53,440 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: other things, because visual facial recognition is very important in 505 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: society for a whole host of reasons. Safety is actually 506 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: one of them, you know, being people say, oh well 507 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: they'll just wear the mask anyway. Okay, if one person 508 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: is wearing a mask and nobody else is, you notice 509 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: that person more. You're aware of their presence. If everybody, 510 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: or half the people or a third of the people 511 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: are wearing masks, you can blend right in and hide 512 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: your identity. So you know, I just think this guy 513 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: probably kept that mask on getting into the car yep, 514 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: driving off to wherever he was I'm sure there were 515 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: security cameras that saw him that didn't get a full 516 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: look at his face. And even people there wouldn't say, hey, 517 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: who's that guy again? Like I said, you got a 518 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: balaclava on, or you've got a ski mask on? For 519 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: no reason. People know something that's in every movie in 520 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: the eighties, you know, the ski mask was like I'm 521 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: a burglar. Basically, in twenty nineteen, if you saw a 522 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: guy in a mask, you'd be like, this guy is 523 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: up to something, and you'd be really scared about it. 524 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: By twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two, you could have 525 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: at least think, oh, maybe he's just a total lunatic 526 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: COVID pansy. But this story does not add up based 527 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: on the details that are coming out right now, let's 528 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: switch to the economy for a second. Your economic situation, actually, 529 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: my friends, let's talk with this for a minute, because 530 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: if you own a business, the past couple of years 531 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: have not been easy, and if your business has five 532 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: or more employees and you managed survive both the COVID 533 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: pandemic and the looming recession, here you could be eligily 534 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: received a payroll tax rebate at up the twenty six 535 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: thousand dollars per employee. 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Find it 552 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: on the iHeart Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. 553 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: Play and Buck here with more breaking news today as 554 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: and it's good news. We've talked about some very heavy 555 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: stuff in the last hour here, but we've got some 556 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: good news to share with you that DeMar Hamlin is, 557 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: according to his doctors who are currently giving a press 558 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: conference in Cincinnati, that DeMar Hamlin has made up to 559 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: this point a strong recovery given the cardiac arrest that 560 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: he suffered on the field during the football game on 561 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: Monday night. And Damar Hamlin is showing that neurological function 562 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: is okay. And you know, there's still there's still some 563 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: additional steps here before I think they can give the 564 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: full recovery and an all clear sign. But Clay, from 565 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing here from these doctors, Damar Hamlin's prognosis 566 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: is good and he is out of the acute danger 567 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: phase of this situation. Yeah, this is a great story. Buck. 568 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: The doctors say they've been communicating with him through written 569 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: communication because he still has I believe a breathing tube 570 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: in some way. One of the first things is, according 571 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: to his doctors, one of the first things he asked 572 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: as they began communicating was who won the game? And 573 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: for anyone out there who is a sports fans, think 574 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: about you know, Damar Hamlin, who's on the Buffalo Bills 575 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: playing in this big game against the Cincinnati Bengals, has 576 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: been basically out of touch for since Monday, right forty 577 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: eight hours plus, And one of the first things he 578 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: says is who won the game? And I just think 579 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: for all of you out there who are sports fans, 580 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: that is just First of all, it's a sign that 581 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: his brain is working well, right, but that so many 582 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: of you who have committed a competed in athletics and 583 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: have been members of teams, that is just I mean, 584 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: it's going that is going to become an iconic phrase. 585 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm just predicting right now, buck the who won the game? 586 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: For a guy who went through this, the trauma and 587 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: for so many people. And again I wanted to talk 588 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: about the positive here, which was over seven million dollars 589 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: raised for this guy's charity to go towards presence and 590 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: everything else. But that is a very heartwarming story to 591 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: have a resolution for right now, again, in real time, 592 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: his doctors updating his condition. We've been waiting for this. 593 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: It's be seventy two hours, I believe, come this evening 594 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: since he collapsed on the field, and the NFL now 595 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: determining what exactly needs to happen, and let's be honest 596 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: to buck. The other part of this story that still 597 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: needs to be resolved is why did he collapse? As 598 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: they go back through and kind of examine what exactly 599 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: happened with his heart condition, what caused this, why did 600 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: it occur? Is going to be a big deal because 601 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: you want to try to hopefully never have this happen 602 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: on the field again. And and and on the one hand, 603 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: you know, you have people that were initially, you know, 604 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: very insistent that we already know what this is. You 605 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: saw that. I'm sure that there were people who are 606 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: putting out their their diagnosis one way or the other. 607 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: But you also have others now who are saying, well, 608 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: we have take a look at football and look at 609 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: safety and look at the issues involved. You can't really 610 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: understand the safety implications one way or the other unless 611 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: you know exactly what the medical diagnosis here is of 612 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: what happened. So I think that's an important part of 613 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: this because there's already a conversation and there are people 614 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: who are having I think there's the serious individuals who 615 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: are saying, hey, you know, is there anything that can 616 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: be done here. You know, I've seen people saying that 617 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: we need to change the pads or whatever it may be. 618 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't know very much about football play. You know 619 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: a lot more. And then there's of course the kind 620 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: of usual suspects in the media sphere who are just 621 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: saying football scary and bad and dangerous and including testosterone 622 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: and all that stuff are good for enjoy. Behar who 623 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: is the dumbest person probably in all of media. Yesterday 624 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: I called her the dumbest woman. I want to apologize 625 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: to women. She's the dumbest person in all of media 626 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: that I on a daily show. Anyway, she basically said 627 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be a to play football. And this is 628 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: this is a natural growth of where the left wing 629 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: is going to go. We have it, you want to 630 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: hear it. Here's what you Americans think that tackle football 631 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: is appropriate. Heterosexual men voted the most support for kids 632 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: doing football, and conservatives were more likely to support youth 633 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: tackle football, just saying yeah, this is I hope democrats 634 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: follow down this path. They are crazy. I hope buck 635 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: that they come after football because I think there are 636 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: a lot and first of all, saying heterosexual men and 637 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: conservatives are big like There are a lot of people 638 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: who are huge football fans that don't know anything about 639 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: politics right legitimately don't care at all. In fact, that's 640 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: probably as hugs. But I hope, I hope that the 641 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: idiots like Joey Behard lead this charge, because this is 642 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: what's going on football. It is hypermasculine, Buck, it is uh, 643 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: it is a pro America, it's religious in general. That's 644 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: why I'm fighting for it. I hope they're this dumb. 645 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: I hope they It's not gonna She's not. There's not 646 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a charge. Every looking at Joy Behar like, 647 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: let's just pretend that didn't happen. Joy. Yeah, let's let's 648 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: move on to something else. Play Travis and Buck Sexton 649 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: on the front lines of truth.