1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome the Jaguars Reporters presented by t I A A 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan and J. P. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Shad Pretended by t I A A Bank starts right 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: down Welcome in Jaguar's Reporters podcast. Ashland Sullivan, John Osier, 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick here with you this week. Brian Sexton 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: enjoying some vacation time, so we will get through it 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: just the three of us as it is the last 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: week of voluntary O t a s this week, as 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: we get ready for a three day mandatory mini camp 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: next week. And JP, it kind of is like we 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: started and we didn't have a lot to talk about 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: and we were figuring it out and then all of 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: a sudden just exploded and now there's so much going on. Yeah, 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: a lot of football, a lot of practices this week. 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: I think this is the week with the most O 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: t A S of all three of the weeks. So 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: we'll be out there on Tuesday to get a good 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: look at what's going on. And then of course last 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: week everything off the field as well with the development 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: jumped in there. We'll get an of that a little 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: bit later. But in football world, there is a lot 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: going on, a lot of new faces. We're getting to 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: know some of these new players now over the weeks, 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: and we're looking forward. I'm looking forward to next week 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: to be out there three straight days. Yes, And that's 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: what's been kind of difficult, John, is when when we 27 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: write and we talked about on the shows, we we 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: only see one practice a week. And that's what's going 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: to lead us to our first thought about Trevor Lawrences 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: had a rocky practice and then had a great practice 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: last week. It's it's hard to find that middle ground. Yeah, 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: from reading Twitter, they are now carving the bust for Trevor, 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: which which is great. Maybe you should and the week 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: before I think they're ready to to kind of from 35 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: the team and jump off bridges. So that's where we're at. Um. 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: You know, we'll get into Trevor in a minute. But 37 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: I thought a lot of things he did last week 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: it made sense that he was good with those things. 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: It was his strengths. This is a big week. I 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: like JP M looking forward more to next week because 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: I feel like with three days at that point, with 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: having six in the bank, we'll be able to least 43 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: give some idea of a big picture of what we're seeing. 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't know realistically if even this week we'll be 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: able to do that, but we will try. We will 46 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: do our best. The problem is, you know we're out 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: there one day a week. Well, I'm sure Trevor has 48 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: looked pretty good other days of the week, you know. 49 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: And and Urban even said that the day you're referencing 50 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Fanry didn't look so good in the red zone. Well, 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: he's pretty good the day before, according to Urban. So 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, it comes and goes. And that's that's where 53 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: the three straight days will help our view of it. 54 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: And that's where the overreaction part comes from, because you're 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: seeing the total picture at all. Absolutely that leads us 56 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: into Jaguars this week. And the first point I want 57 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: to make is Trevor Lawrence looked great last week in 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: the practice that we watched. At one stretch, he was 59 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: eleven for thirteen and very accurate, especially with the deep ball. 60 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: James of Shaughnessy also had a great day that practice 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: we watched. In Tim Tebow, we'll just put it in there. 62 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Caught every pass that was thrown his way and looks 63 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: like he's holding his own So I am yeah, I 64 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: have my little notepad. I write him down. I'm not 65 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: out there just watching butterflies doing something. I see you 66 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: out there. I can't grab onto that, but what I 67 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: can I can grab onto. He looked very good. He 68 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: looked very comfortable. Of course he can come from the pocket. 69 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: There's nobody rushing him. But he made throws down field, Uh, 70 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: with accuracy that I think we're at least somewhat indicative 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: of how they might look in a game. Uh. That's 72 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: what you're looking for, is is the decision making, the accuracy, 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: the deep ball accuracy. He threw a really nice ball 74 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: to a Shaughnessy that you know, the defender tried to 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: go after, didn't get it. You know, all of a 76 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: sudden it's it's a touchdown. Um. Impressive. My guess is, 77 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: if we're looking at what thirteen of these over there, 78 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: he's probably had three or four days like the one 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: we saw where he struggled. He's probably had eight or 80 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: nine like last it was the Thursday that he's looked good. 81 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: That's what you're spo this time. And this is what 82 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: always frustrates me about fans who will react to youth 83 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: and training camp. You don't want thirteen great days out 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: of the quarterback, because if you're getting thirteen three days 85 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: out of the quarterback, nothing's being challenged. There's no learning involved. 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: These are the literally the first times that he has 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: been on the field with these other people, the first 88 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: time he's going through the offense. When are you supposed 89 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: to have your rough draft and your mistakes and your 90 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: learning if it's not right here? If he had been 91 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: doing this for three or four weeks and had that 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: bad day in the red zone, and he might work 93 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: it was probably his first red zone practice or when 94 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: of his first two, So you are you want some 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: failure early so you have something to learn from. It's 96 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: not going to be perfection. If there was no mistakes, 97 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: then he's not learning anything. So I'm fine with how 98 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: it's gone so far. And it wasn't failure as in 99 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: it was terrible balls thrown or he didn't know what 100 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: he was doing. It was more so just the timing 101 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: with the receivers was really off, which you're gonna expect it. 102 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: It's not also all on him. It wasn't like you 103 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: can't throw a football, and that's when you're reading Twitter, 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: you kind of since that at times well and The 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: great thing was that all of the Twitter commentary, we're 106 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: bird's eye views, they had all seen it go down, right, 107 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: So that was where I really got a lot of 108 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: the inside. Yeah, he said sarcastic. This is the as 109 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: we always say, is that over reaction time. But this 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: is the time to go try different throws and try things. 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: And to your point, in Ashlyn, it's the guy had 112 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: been with the veteran receivers for what four days at 113 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: that point, Right, They're not gonna go be Marvin Harrison 114 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning. Guess what we're gonna see some of 115 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: this next season two. Yeah, this is a you know, 116 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: he is very very good and has it chanced to 117 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: be very very good. But he's twenty two year old 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. How old is he? He's not thirty seven 119 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: year old Aaron Rodgers. So there are going to be 120 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: some ups and down. He's got a couple of two 121 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: interception games next you he's gonna have and uh, I 122 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I always obviously the social media thing, it's here to stay. 123 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get rid of social media JP 124 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: as hard as I try. But in I can remember 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: sitting on my couch and in San Marco longfo i 126 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: ever covered the Colts, and I watched Peyton manning for 127 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: three interceptions against the Patriots on a Sunday night on ESPN. 128 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: Game looked awful and it was Mike Patrick doing out 129 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: of the games back then, very underrated Mike Patrick. And 130 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the broadcast, everybody was saying, look, 131 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: this kid's gonna be fine. This was a couple of 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: you know, this was a bad game. Can you imagine 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: a three interception a to return for touchdowns on Sunday 134 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: night football right now? Out of the number one overall 135 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: picking the dract it would be chaos. And that's what 136 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: happens during rookie years. It's probably what happened to Trevor. 137 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: Just let him develop, you just let him it won't 138 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: I get that, it's not the world we live in. 139 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: But he's listening to this. Have a little perspective when 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: you're hearing your friends say, oh yeah, yeah, there's going 141 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: to be some ups and downs in this and that's okay. 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: By the way. Mike Patrick former Channel four Sports right 143 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: and was the voice of the ju Dolphins for a 144 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: number of years. One of the more underrated that play 145 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: by play guys of all time played by play guy 146 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: for the World Football League too. Do you look at 147 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that game as a kid? Alright? Moving on jack Wars, 148 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: this week acts on the Jacksonville Shark, a big news 149 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: late last week as the Jaguars announced a multitude of 150 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: downtown developments, including a new football facility that will be 151 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: ready to rock in the summer of This will allow 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: the stadium to be renovated and the team still to 153 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: be here in jackson which is a huge note. You've 154 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: heard hints and whispers and uh, you know, urbans talked 155 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: about it a little bit, and the players have dropped 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: all the facility on us. Well. The other day it 157 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: was the first time we really got to see it publicly, 158 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: and that is what makes it exciting. We've seen a 159 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: lot of those type of events over the years here though, 160 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: renderings and the development of downtown and whatever it is. 161 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: This one feels like it has some more legs. You 162 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: know that this one could could be the one that 163 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: really maybe jump starts it. Yeah, the stuff on the river, 164 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: the Four Seasons hotel is the start of it, and 165 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: then you've got the office building, and then Baptist Health 166 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: is involved with the Orthopedic Center and then you put 167 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: the football facility on top of that. That's a lot 168 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: of things around the development on the river to help 169 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: boost it up. I think it's not just the Jaguars 170 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: and Shot Khan and you know last time was the 171 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: Quartis companies, but now there are some local stakeholders, the 172 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars football side of the organization and Baptist Health involved 173 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: and I think we really helped this thing move. John 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: Well a couple of things. It feels organic, first of all, 175 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: like it feels like there are things that are needed 176 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: that will be used that all makes sense and all 177 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: fit football, it fits the area. Uh Uh, I think 178 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: you remember, I've I've heard a lot of same things 179 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: that you just alluded to, JP of there's been a 180 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: lot of rentings, a lot of them come off. Well, 181 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of renderings too that have come 182 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: off over the last ten years. You know, there's been 183 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot of this day the franchise things we sat 184 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: in and a shot old out the locker rooms, locker 185 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: rooms happened, they are rolled out, the video bars rolled 186 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: out Daily's place. Um, I think there's been a perception. 187 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: I get a lot of emails about that too. Well, 188 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: we always see this and it doesn't come off well, 189 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: that was a lot j but really beyond that, they've 190 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: been trying to give people the idea and and the 191 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: possibility of what can be downtown, because if you don't 192 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: do that, then most of the city sort of looks 193 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: at and said, well, we can't do anything. It's it 194 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: looked like this for years. Unless you show people a possibility, 195 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: then they're never gonna dream it, they're never gonna see it. So, uh, 196 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: that's sort of a you know, that was very nice 197 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: of you to say, Walter Middie, But uh, I do 198 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: think because of the football facility, which feels like that's 199 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: going to happen, um everything last week, the whole vibe 200 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: to me was significantly different than any other Downtown vision rollout, 201 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: and the reaction was different it. Mark Lamping made a 202 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: reference late in the presentation that a lot of these 203 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: things had been seen by the city council people. It's 204 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: been looked at, It has been viewed already. This was 205 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: not hey, let's maybe look at something that might work. 206 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: I get a feeling a lot of people who matter 207 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: in these decisions city team have already looked at this, 208 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: and it feels like it's something that's a good chance 209 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, and it's exactly how they said it 210 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: would play out. When Lot J didn't work out as planned, 211 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: they said, all right, we're gonna go back to the 212 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: drawing board and we're not going to give up. We're 213 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: going to find another solution to this, which is exactly 214 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: what happens. And then to the football side of this, 215 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: and I know nationally you'll discuss this a little more 216 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: coming up. I mean, it is it was vital to 217 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: have that for Urban Meyer and this football team too 218 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: to really move forward and try to become one of 219 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: the upper tier teams in the National Football League, to 220 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: have the space to do it. Just the space numbers 221 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: alone really blew my mind during that presentation the other day, 222 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: the average square footage of team facilities in the NFL 223 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: compared to what the Jaguars had here night and day. 224 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: So get to that level and have the best of 225 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: the best and have room for the best of the 226 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: best for these players. Yeah, it's frankly, I mean, you 227 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: walk around the stadium right now and there's just simply 228 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: not enough room for everyone. We have outgrown the stadium. 229 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Coaches in Clo, you gotta point them somewhere you got 230 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: to get another building. And when people hear that, yeah, 231 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of emails from people saying, well, 232 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: why wasn't something done before. Well, logistically, when this facility 233 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: that we're sitting in was developed planned, this wasn't unusual. 234 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: This was how it was and this is where the 235 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: facility was. So over time, other teams began to do 236 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: things differently, and now this is the time where this 237 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: France shies is going to catch up. I guess that's 238 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: the right word. They're gonna catch up and be a 239 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: modern facility. I think the thing that we haven't touched 240 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: on that JP I mentioned very early it the significant 241 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: thing here that I hadn't heard before was a definite 242 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: they are going to renovate and not rebuild, or it's 243 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: not gonna be a new Stadium's gonna be renovating this one. 244 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: You had gotten that impression in the last couple of 245 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: years from talking to people that they thought that was 246 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: gonna be what was economically feasible. So that's interesting that 247 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: this is the first step toward that, and sometimes over 248 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: the next ten years that's going to become the major 249 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,359 Speaker 1: storyline is how this stadium will look when it's renovated. UM, 250 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: A lot j other stuff has always felt like the 251 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: precursor to that. Last Thursday, I think was the first 252 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: step to seeing their vision of what they wanted to be. 253 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: The football facility outside would be the first step. And 254 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: then that would be significant because you've got to think 255 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: that whatever designing they do off of that, the stadium 256 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: is going to have a lot of that feel in 257 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: terms of the modern in terms of you know, the 258 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: branding or whatever all that is. That would be the 259 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: first step to something major in the stadium with shape 260 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: that is nice. Just look at the Miami Dolphins and 261 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: what they did. It's a great example of what could be. 262 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: If you've seen that stadium before and after, it is 263 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: night and day. All right, last little tidbit signing Pharaoh 264 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: Cooper last week, entering a sixth season, had a few 265 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: stops around the league, primarily known as a punt returner, 266 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: so that's a little interesting, but an All Pro Pro 267 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Bowl wide receiver adding to the list of a group 268 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: that was already pretty deep. In my opinion, I was 269 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised. I'm not gonna lie, yeah, 270 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: a little know. In fact, JP's middle name is Pharaoh. 271 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: That's what the peace stands for. And my middle initial 272 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: is also P and that stands for Pharaoh. So that's 273 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: where we're going with that. What are you saying? I 274 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: didn't it's all over best buds man like with the 275 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: same middle name. He just come up with things that. 276 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: This didn't excite me that much. I mean, yeah, he's 277 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: not a burner. Yeah, I hope he works out. He 278 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: had a huge run against the Jags in seventeen. That's 279 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: sort of what I know about him. This felt more like, 280 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: let's bring a guy in, let's see if it works. 281 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: Considering how deep they are, I was surprised with the 282 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: move and I would be a little surprised if it 283 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: winds up being a thing we're talking about during the 284 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: season because they're so deep a receiver and they have 285 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: so many bodies. Uh, but it's competition. Well, we were 286 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: out of practice foot not this past week, the week 287 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: before Terry Godwin went down and he's on I R now. 288 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: So it opened a receiver spot. They needed a body 289 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: and to ten and that's Pharaoh Cooper and I think 290 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: he ran high four fives, four or six of his 291 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: pro day way long time. He sounds fast, it's a 292 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: fast sounding name. He can run those Chris routes and 293 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: and get open then make plays after the fact. You know, 294 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: we'll see. All right, well, let's get into big things. 295 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: GP your up first, Okay, um, Joke Colin was miked 296 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: up last week. We saw it on Jaguars dot Com 297 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: and it gave us a window inside the defensive mindset 298 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: for him and for the culture they're trying to build, 299 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: especially on that side of the football. We we know 300 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: Joke from the last time he was here, John, and 301 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: you know his personality and his attitude and the way 302 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: he goes about it on the practice field and motivates players, 303 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: and they love him for it. They loved him for 304 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: it here. He certainly loved him in Baltimore. It felt 305 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: like when we were up there for training camp a 306 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: few years ago. And you can tell in the interaction 307 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: that we saw on that video that they're still really 308 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: starting to like him here. And I think he's around 309 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: the d line a little more just because that's his nature. 310 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: He goes back to that group. He's the defensive coordinator now. 311 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: But you know what, there's that It was fun. I 312 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: could listen to him on a practice field with a 313 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: microphone all day long. It is thoroughly entertaining act it is. 314 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: It's the biggest difference I think I noticed. And it's 315 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: not just him, it's really the whole coaching staff. But 316 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: when you watch, for example, the group stretch where everyone's 317 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: in the line, and it's not specific to your position 318 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: group like for example, Joe coll and you saw him 319 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: with the wide receivers and the running backs, and you 320 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: see the tight ends coach with a defensive line asking 321 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: everyone how their day is going. It's very hands on, 322 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: and I think we've become accustomed to seeing it very 323 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 1: clicky for lack of a better word. And and this 324 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: seems very inclusive where every coach is involved in every 325 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: step of the team a. Joe's intriguing guy because the 326 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: way he coaches, I think is the way you have 327 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: to coach NFL players these days. And I think urban 328 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: I would guess he gravitated that he knew he knew 329 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: Joe and they've known each other for twenty years and 330 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: they have they understand how each other coaches. Joe is 331 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: a player's coach, but he is going to be I 332 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: would say, hypercritical, but he's hard on players. He drives 333 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: them but he also is able to do it with 334 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: this feeling of when he's yelling at me, he's yelling 335 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: at me because he loves me. Yeah, and it's it's 336 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: because I see something in you. They can make you great, 337 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: and by me yelling at you, I'm going to earn 338 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: you millions of dollars because you're gonna be in the 339 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: league a long time. You know it's your best interest, 340 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: and you know that is a fine line because you 341 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: know if you're yelling and it's not that, then NFL 342 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: players like well, you know, or anybody would be and 343 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: it turns them off. But that's so if you talk 344 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: to Joe j P what you did when he was here, 345 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: that's there in him. You can't not like the guy. 346 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: You can't not feel like he is a he is 347 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: a wonderful person. So he's got that sort of core 348 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: and it enables him to go coach them hard and 349 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: be as demanding as possible and drive them and they 350 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: still accept it and they know they're all on the 351 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: same page. And I I'm not surprised that he's working 352 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: a little more with the defensive life. It's his background 353 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: and it's where they have to improve the most. Quickly, 354 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: because if they're like they were in the passion the 355 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: defensive line, then then nothing else matters. So it's gonna 356 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: be that part of the defense, the front seven. I'm 357 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: as interested to see what that looks like as anything 358 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: I've ever covered here in ten years, because how they're 359 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: going to use these guys. It's so hard to stay 360 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: with this guy plays this position. This guys plays this 361 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: position X. All the old terms we've used for years 362 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: don't really fit. And even they when they talk about it, well, 363 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna do this in base he's going to do this. 364 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: So seeing how these guys are used is going to 365 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: be fascinating during training. Camp can change. It could change 366 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: week to week and the steams start down to down. 367 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean you could roll any kind of combination out there. 368 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: And particularly fascinated to see how they use Miles Jack 369 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 1: because everybody when this first happened, the instinct was to say, well, 370 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a three or four defense and Miles 371 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: actually be an inside linebacker and he's gonna be misused. 372 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be just like two thousand. My understanding is 373 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: there is a dynamic role for Miles Jack in his 374 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: defense and It's not like he's gonna be standing in 375 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the defense and just stuff in the run. 376 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: He is going to have a major role because guess what, 377 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: Joe Colan likes to bring pressure and Miles jack when 378 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: he was outside could run down and make play. So 379 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: let's see what combination that makes actual Absolutely all right, John, 380 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: what is your big thing? I think thing is even 381 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: though we've talked about it before, um urban Meyer's approach 382 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: and his honesty when talking about players, which we saw 383 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: it's our I'm a little bit. But he talked about 384 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: DJ Chark in some very candid terms last week. He 385 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: also talked about Miles jack Ands and some not quite 386 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: as candid terms. Uh say that Miles come in a 387 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: little overweight and gotten that out of the way quickly. 388 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: And it's intriguing because it's just sort of override what 389 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it in a couple of minutes. 390 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: DJ Chark Urban basically said he wasn't very good last year. 391 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: He had to get bigger and stronger. Well, when you 392 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: say something like that automatically, it's it's gonna Oh he's 393 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: ripping him. Oh he's he he's criticized. He's calling him 394 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 1: out was one of the tweets that so Urban calls 395 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: DJ Chark out. Well, in this day and age, in 396 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: the Zoom Call, everybody's gonna be sitting on what the 397 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: coach said and anything that's remotely negative. Oh, I'm surprised 398 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: there wasn't a Urban doesn't like dj R, you know, 399 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: but that's not the tone of how he said it. 400 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting as time goes on to 401 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: see how candid Urban remains on players like that, I thought. 402 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: I think the way he has done it so far 403 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: has made a lot of sense because it's usually been 404 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: after the fact, meaning, hey, DJ Chark, I went to 405 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: him in March and now two months later, he has 406 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: done what we asked him to do. So it's not 407 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: really criticism, it's more telling the stories. I don't think 408 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: Urban is going to go down the road of calling 409 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: somebody out when the problem or the story hasn't already 410 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: been sort of walked forward a little bit. I just 411 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: think he's trying to be honest and trying to tell 412 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: the player's story. To me, that made DJ Chark look 413 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: good because he responded to it, and you can tell 414 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: him the Zoom Call. He's a different looking kid. The 415 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: stories will come when there are successful stories like that. 416 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: You know, if it doesn't end up in a positive way, 417 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: you probably won't hear that back straight from I didn't 418 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: take that I'm gonna throw guys under the bus because 419 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: he's here to protect his team and protect his players. 420 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: He's all about the players, right, He's not gonna throw 421 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: a bus for not working out or whatever happens. But 422 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: in this day and age, you say something like that, 423 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: everybody's I mean, no, it's unique, for sure, yes, and 424 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: we didn't like we had said before. We didn't know 425 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: that was gonna be urban Meyer and his personality, zoom 426 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: calls or whatever. But it's really been nice. Well, but 427 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: I get questions from fans, how are players responding to this? 428 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: Are they mad? To me, that didn't feel like what 429 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: that was. And I don't think that will be taking 430 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: that way in the locker room. But we're in such 431 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: a vanilla media society right now, where you know, coaches 432 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: are so scared to say anything that when you are 433 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: candid like that, it's a little unusual. So people take 434 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: it as harsh or critics and I didn't see it 435 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: that way. I don't think players see it that way, 436 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: But there are people who interpret it that way because 437 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: it's so unusual and it's frankly, he just doesn't care 438 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: what you think, which I think is a fabulous thing. 439 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: And I catch myself, especially at the end of last season, 440 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: when we talked about DJ Chark, we we drifted towards 441 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: talking about the quarterback more so, and look what he 442 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: had to deal with, and look at all the quarterback changes, 443 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: and how could he have succeeded with Look at this 444 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: what he had to deal with. And I think it 445 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: was interesting that urban Meyer never touched on that. He 446 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: never even brought up the quarterback situation. It was all 447 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: on DJ, what what can you do to make yourself better? 448 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: Not things you can't control? Right alrighty, Well, my big 449 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: thing is the lack of a team facility always made 450 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: the Jaguars not on the same level as the rest 451 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: of the league. And I remember when we flew to Baltimore, 452 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, a couple of years ago, and I 453 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: walked in that facility. It was night and day. It 454 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: was not even close to the same level. And you 455 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: think to yourself, how can an NFL team succeed when 456 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: some teams have this and the Jaguars have that. So 457 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: finally the Jaguars are getting that facility and have an 458 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: even playing field. You frankly thought they never had a 459 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: chance to succeed because they were never given the necessary tools. 460 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting when Brandon Lennard was 461 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: asked about finally getting those tools and it was oh, 462 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: or are you privileged? Are you do you feel honored 463 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: that you're getting this? He's like, no, I feel like 464 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: I can do my job now. And that's a huge thing. Yeah, 465 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: I think you can. You can win without the multimillion 466 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: dollar facility. It's yeah, And uh so I wouldn't say 467 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: that you have to have the Baltimore and the Minnesota 468 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: and it's coming in Jacksonville. But there's no reason in 469 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: this day and age in the league not too so. 470 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: I think now this is their moment to transition into that. 471 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: It's like anything in this league. When the Jaguars started 472 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: in Unfortunately I'm old enough to have been there, this 473 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: was state of the art. Yes, I'm sure this was. Yeah, 474 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and they were number two or three in 475 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: the league in total revenue because everything was set up, 476 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: they had the best set up. They were the newest. 477 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: That's how it works. Over the course of twenty seven years, 478 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: they went from being the newest to one of the 479 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: oldest because everybody else renovated. Well, guess what when they 480 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: do this, When they build this in two thousand twenty three, 481 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: there'll be one of the four or five newest. In 482 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: twenty five years, there'll be one ian. It's a constant insurance, 483 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: a constant arms race. This is this team's moment and 484 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: and the city's moment to get back up into the 485 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: arms race, so to speak. And the NFL is an 486 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: expensive venture. At some point in the future, there will 487 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: be another time when you got to there'll be other 488 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: improvements we can't even imagine. I guess they'll be flying 489 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: stadiums or it's a there'll be something that you've got 490 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: to keep up with because it's it's the biggest, most popular, 491 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: most expensive sport in the country to be involved with. 492 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: And that's always gonna be one open one upping. I mean, 493 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: you look at the Star in Dallas, for example, and 494 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure in ten years will be like the Star. 495 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Look at them Minnesota, Los Angeles, and I'm not sure 496 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: that you have to go to that route. I think 497 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: that's the outlier that Mark was talking about in in 498 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: the presentation last week. I as soon there'll be outliers 499 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, Minnesota, Baltimore, those are standards 500 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: that I think most teams will be up with. UH. 501 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: And it sounds like the Jaguars will be right there. 502 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: The Minnesota one feels like it's closer to this setup 503 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: than some of the others. Like Baltimore. They're out in 504 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: a neighborhood in the suburb, right and there's not much 505 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: room for development. Minnesota one is development around their facility. Yeah, 506 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: it's a whole town around. Similar idea. I think here 507 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: the facility comes development around it, it spurs other things. 508 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: You know, that was just a giant parcel of land 509 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: out in the nowhere that they have developed into something. 510 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: But and that's a key to remember for shot I 511 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: interrupted u JP but it UH. I get questions all 512 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: the time, do you think the Jaguar And there were 513 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: even some people asking last week, Hey, is this gonna 514 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: be UH? Are they going to announce that they're going 515 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: to rebuild the stadium in in St. John's or are 516 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: they going to build their facility in Clay County. UM. 517 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: I would have been stunned. I would be stunned if 518 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: Shot ever considers doing anything with the Jaguars outside of 519 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: this square patch they were sitting on, because his vision 520 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: since day one has been to have a vibrant downtown 521 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: and to have the Jaguars be the center of it. 522 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: Whatever he does, he's going to try to develop it 523 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: in this because he wants this to be a jewel 524 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: in downtown Jacksonville, not a jewel outside of Jacksonville. No, 525 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: we don't want that. All right, it's time for did 526 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: you hear this? We mentioned it, so we'll breeze through it. 527 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: John mentioned how candid coach Meyer really can be and 528 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: d J. Chart had a tough season last year, not 529 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: a secret to anyone. We all know that. And coach 530 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Meyer news he can play better. He didn't play well 531 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: last year, and and uh, obviously his first year he 532 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: was very good. I just didn't like the his size, 533 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 1: his strength, I didn't, you know. I just thought it 534 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: was way below average, way below what we expect from 535 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: our receivers. And he was told that. And the best 536 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: thing I love about DJs he addressed it and hit 537 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: it very hard, gained seven pounds of muscle. He's playing 538 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: a much more physical game. He's a big guy that 539 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: played little last year and that can't happen. You know. 540 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, guys like Mike Thomas and uh Lewis Murphy 541 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: are those big, strong, fast receivers and he's got to 542 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: play big and strong and he can now because he's 543 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: he is big and strong. So I just had it, ironically, 544 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: a good meeting with him as we walked off the field. 545 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: We can't lose that strength and power gains that he 546 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: made in the off season, and um, he's committed to 547 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: do it this summer. So we touched on it. We 548 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: we talked about and I think the biggest thing for 549 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: me is I go back to when Coach Meyer talked 550 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: about wanting Kadarius Tony in the draft, and that was 551 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: the first time I was like, Wow, that's honest. This 552 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: was another one moment when I was Wow, that's honest. 553 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: But we appreciate it. Yeah, And again, it's so unusual 554 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: that people are almost stunned by honesty because you're so 555 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: used to sound bites. When Meyer says these things, and 556 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to the DJ Chart quote, 557 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the Darius Tony quote. 558 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: It's not criticism of the player. It's it's not anger, 559 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: it's simply I get the idea that the conversation or 560 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: the quote about DJ Chart was probably exactly what Urban 561 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: said to DJ Chart in March. And I'm sure DJ 562 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: w hey, you're right. Good, Yeah, I'm gonna go work 563 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: on that. Like so it's not like he's pounding the 564 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: table and trying to make a point in grandstanding to 565 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: the public about this. He's just saying the facts of 566 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: here's what he's got to do to get better, and 567 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: there's no reason why he can't. And I think he's 568 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: gonna be great once he does this. And I think 569 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: I like the fact that DJ took the advice and 570 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: ran with it. That kind of a player that will 571 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: listen to somebody who's had a lot of success in 572 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: building wide receivers. And don't think that Urban doesn't want 573 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: those kind of players, the ones that don't respond to If, 574 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: like what we said a little bit earlier, if the 575 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: player doesn't respond for some reason or is not responding 576 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: as favorably to some of that criticism, we would never 577 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: heard about this, right, And it's you know, he tells 578 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: you a lot about DJs, absolutely does and he's stuck 579 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: to his personality. Because we were doing an interview with 580 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: him a couple of months ago and he walked in 581 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: the room and he goes, you can call me muscles now. 582 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: I think he had gained about eight pounds at that point, 583 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: and he was he was hyping himself up. So he's 584 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: not subtle about this, that's for sure. All right, it 585 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: is time for everyone asked I will go first, who 586 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: is someone you want to know more about? And I 587 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: gotta say minus Roy Robertson Harris And I go back 588 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: to those interviews and it was during free agency and 589 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: he came in with his kids and his wife, and 590 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: it was almost like he was this teddy bear of 591 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: a person, like almost Calais square. He was the sweetest guy, 592 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: and we hadn't seen him on the field yet, and 593 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, he's been a really friendly, 594 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: nice guy. And then I watched him on the practice 595 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: field the other day and even filming him when he 596 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: was walking to practice. He just kind of mean muggs 597 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 1: you and is focused and intense and I was like, 598 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: what happened? What mean mugs? Like he walked by just 599 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: kind of stared. I was like, face, Yeah, like you're scary. 600 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: That's one of those young people. Think that's not the 601 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: young thing at all. That's some very common phrase. Never heard. Okay, 602 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: So yes, I'm trying to figure him out and he 603 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: totally kind of threw me through open. This is a 604 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: guy I want to know more about. Where Robertson Harris JP, 605 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: who's yours? Oh boy, this is a tough one. I um, 606 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: And it's weird saying it. But we haven't had much 607 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: conversation with a guy like Travis E t N since 608 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: the draft. He hadn't He hasn't talked much. We haven't 609 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: been able to really dig into his deep background and 610 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: kind of what drives him and keeps them going and um, 611 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: you know how it's going so far, you know, um, 612 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: and what kind of role he envisions in this offense 613 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: and all those things. So, um, I got like E 614 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: t N. I was gonna say, James Robinson, but I 615 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: don't know if that, you know, if we don't know 616 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: him by now, I do And that's okay and nothing 617 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: wrong with that. But so I'll go E t N. 618 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: New guy. How's he fit? How's he feeling? We just 619 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: don't know a lot about him yet. Yeah, all Uh, 620 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: I have a specific but the reality is you don't 621 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: have the twelve players last year, not all of them 622 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: are still here. But you know, probably what eleven twelve 623 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: newcomers from last year on the team, including James Robinson 624 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: and fifteen or sixteen more, and because of the zoom 625 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: nature of things, there's probably twenty five or thirty guys 626 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind getting the more you know, and that we 627 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: know them from zoom and we know them from the 628 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: occasional sit down interview, but you don't know them in 629 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: the way that maybe you knew Calais or you know, uh, 630 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Coleman was he was when he was here at 631 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: about relationship from talking to in the locker room. There's 632 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: something about that locker room atmosphere where you get a 633 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: chance to just sort of get to know a guy 634 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: beyond what he's saying in sound bites. I think we 635 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: have a little bit there, but not quite as much 636 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: as as as you normally would. Um. You know, it's 637 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: gonna sound stupid, but I'd still like to get to 638 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: know more about Trevor Lawrence beyond what we have seen publicly. 639 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting to see how 640 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: he handles the day today of training camp, talking afterwards 641 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: how he handles the day to day quarterback thing. I 642 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: guess we know we're probably know what we're gonna know 643 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: about his story off the field, but I'm looking forward 644 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: to seeing how he functions in the day to day 645 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: team environment to know more about that's not really the 646 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: answer I think something's looking for, but that's you know, 647 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: getting to see how he does his job each day 648 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: in the way that we always see the Corvette. Each 649 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: quarterback has a different dynamic of how they handle things, 650 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: of how they handle difficult questions, if how to handle preparation. 651 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: So I think that's as fascinating as anything to me 652 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: about this season. There's this This kind of goes into 653 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: the bigger sport conversations going on right now about locker 654 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: room access and you know, athletes speaking to media or 655 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: having to speak with media after what that will look 656 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: like this year In the NFL, I think they're still 657 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: trying to figure out if locker rooms will be open 658 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: to media or not um But for us, for me 659 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: at least, it's a valuable piece of what we do 660 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: because you do get to know some background or a 661 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: mindset of a player without having him have to say 662 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: it on a micro phone. You can you can verbalize 663 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: it for them or you know, give a synopsis or 664 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: an idea of how a guy works. And that's important 665 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: in our storytelling world and podcasts and everything to to 666 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: know these guys a little bit better. Yeah, without getting 667 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: too inside football into media relations, a lot of veterans 668 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: will tell you it's valuable for players too in this sense. 669 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: I was talking to a J. Cann last week for 670 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: the Ozone podcast, and a J is a guy, as 671 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: you guys know, uh, six seventh year veteran. When you're 672 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: in the locker room with a player like a J 673 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: and there's a mob around him talking about the offensive 674 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: line and you know, and there's certain things these players 675 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: stay on camera and once it sort of breaks up, 676 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: you can talk to him after and said, hey, what 677 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: was going on there, and he can give you the 678 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: background of look, I get that people are saying this, 679 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: but this guy was injured. This is what's really going on. 680 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: This is you know, and he Usually they don't call 681 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: their teammates out there, not but they can give you 682 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: a perspective on what's really going on. And so that 683 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: helps players just as much as it does media for 684 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: the real story to be out. To have a relationship 685 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: with the media, it helps players more than I think 686 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: fans might realize. So I don't know which direction that's 687 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: going to go, but I think it's dangerous to not 688 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: have some sort of interaction beyond a zoom call with 689 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: the local media covering the team and with players. It 690 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: always talks about building the players brand, right A winning 691 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: does that, That's the main thing, he always says. But 692 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: being in front of a camera and on microphones helps 693 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: the brand as well. If you, you know, nurture it 694 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: the right way, it can really help a person outside 695 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: of the football realm as well. Totally agree there, We 696 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: have it all right, j P. What did your everyone 697 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: ask James Robinson, Jaguars running back head over a thousand 698 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: yards last year. You've heard of him. What does rushing 699 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: yardage total this season? It is going to be between 700 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: seven hundred and eight hundred yards. I think we all agree, 701 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: and we heard coach Maron say this actually last season, 702 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: that James Robinson frankly carried the ball too often. Last 703 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: year he was still incredibly successful, but it was very predictable. 704 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: And I think now with the additions of Carlos Hyde 705 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: and Travis E t N. He's not going to get 706 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: as many carries. He's not going to have as many yards. 707 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: Not to say that he won't be as successful, but 708 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: he carried the ball too much last season and frankly 709 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 1: he's now not going to have as many yards because 710 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: of it. I um, I agree. Conceptually, the number depends 711 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: on if he stays healthy, if he if he plays 712 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: sixteen games, I think he goes over what's lens thrown 713 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: out there? If if he plays sixteen, I think in 714 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: this day and age, if you play sixteen is a 715 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: rotational guy, but you're the main guy. And I think 716 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: he'll be the main guy. Uh. I think he can 717 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: get eleven hundred ish, you know, and if the offense 718 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: is functioning, he should. I mean, if you're the main 719 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: guy in the offense, I eleven would be a really 720 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: really good year. Uh thousand, eleven hundred in that range 721 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: is attainable in this day and age. Back I think 722 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: has to stay healthy to do that, and that's the 723 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: real gauge. If he plays thirteen games, you know, which 724 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: is not unusual for a back because you take away 725 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: and tear, then I think makes sense. So I would 726 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: say in that range, I'm gonna say eight thirty seven yards. Wow, 727 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: all right, where did you get from? I don't know, 728 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: I just discuss all right, fair enough? This sort of 729 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: newsy does Julio Jones to the Tennessee Titans scary? Is Slynn? Yeah? 730 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: It scares me more than it did before he was traded, 731 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: That's for sure. It does because it hadn't happened. It 732 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: doesn't help. It doesn't help my word. Um, I do 733 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: think it's a little overplayed. I think Julio Jones, near 734 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: the end of his career, still a very successful wide receiver, 735 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: but it is a little overplayed. But the tight ends 736 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: as a whole. Derrick Henry scared me way more than 737 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. I think he always will. But this certainly 738 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't help the cause. Well, you got Julio Jones. Now, 739 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, that's one thing. You're gonna see him 740 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: once this year the Falcons game, right, if he's available. No, 741 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna see him twice if he's healthy. With a 742 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: J Brown on the other side, big monster, and another 743 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: big monster in the backfield, and Henry with a quarterback 744 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: who with those weapons can perform very well. I don't 745 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: know if he can do it on his own, but 746 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: you throw another weapon out there. If he's healthy, he's 747 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: still Julio Jones and this is still a rebuilt secondary 748 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: that hasn't proven a thing yet. Yeah, and you guys 749 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: have hit on it. If healthy, he's really really scary 750 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: right now. Realistically, is this move going to be a 751 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: home run for the time it is over three years. 752 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a core player 753 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: for them for three years. It would it would defy 754 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: the course of his career the last couple of years 755 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: if he plays forty eight games and is an All 756 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: prover the next three years. But on a game to 757 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: game basis, he's the kind of guy who could be 758 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: hurt for five, play eleven and be devastatingly good in 759 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: those eleven. So if if if two of those eleven 760 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: or twelve against the Jags, one of them might be 761 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: hundred twenty yard game, which he's very careful pitt up 762 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: against anybody. He's one of the few guys in the 763 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: league who you can defend in game plan for and 764 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: he still beats you. So I don't think it. I 765 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,479 Speaker 1: don't know these an All Pro player next year because 766 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: of health and age. But in spurts and in key situations, 767 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: he sense I think, yeah, how he could they do 768 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: with their press takes off Derrick Henry Chill. Ye, that 769 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: opens up a whole side of things that we quite 770 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen yet. And we've seen enough of the Titans 771 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: already no more. But there would be a school of 772 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: thought that he may not be the best receiver on 773 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: the team next year. Yeah, because a J. Brown is 774 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: really good and really consistent, and historically for their career, 775 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: Julio Jones obviously the better player right now. A J. 776 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: Brown might be as good or better right now. So 777 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: in terms of being a you know, a J. Brown 778 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: played through a lot last year, still played at a 779 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: high level. Uh So, yeah, who do you put on? 780 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: Julio Shack? Shack two guys. O'Neill's that big, uh Jack 781 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: and Shade another guy? You have to Yeah, I mean 782 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: the ideas. I don't like the idea of leaving a 783 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 1: J one on one either, so that nothing's ideal for sure. 784 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 1: I know it's June, but hey, we're gonna start thinking. 785 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: It just shows you the development. C. J. Henderson's a 786 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: huge shore for the team because he's supposed to be. 787 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: Remember number nine overall pick in the draft, we can 788 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: say we went about Shakil Griffin. Even with Shaquill Griffin 789 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: on paper supposed to be. C J is supposed to 790 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: be your number one lockdown guy. That's only four picks 791 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: behind Jalen Ramsey. According to a draft equity and potential 792 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: he is supposed to be locked down all pro guy. 793 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: You know you take corners twenty three to be starters, 794 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: you take them number nine to be you are the man. 795 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's there yet. He was 796 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: there in a Week one last year, but this team 797 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: needs him to be yep An, They're huge story that 798 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: we will pay attention to. And that is our podcast. 799 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars reporters like and subscribe to the Jaguars Official Podcast 800 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: Network and stay with us on Jaguars dot Com and 801 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. 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