1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:27,508 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Good Morning Braces taking a shot, Trace Young, 3 00:00:27,628 --> 00:00:30,948 Speaker 1: trench a needle clucks down. Bryce Young, this guy is good. 4 00:00:30,988 --> 00:00:35,788 Speaker 1: I'll tell him he's kind a nice arm. Huhs tackle. 5 00:00:37,108 --> 00:00:41,108 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is dangerous in the open field's trapped you 6 00:00:41,188 --> 00:00:44,028 Speaker 1: what he loves to do. It's a beautiful downfield. R wow. 7 00:00:44,268 --> 00:00:46,628 Speaker 1: A crowd trout fires deep down to the end zone 8 00:00:46,668 --> 00:00:49,308 Speaker 1: and it is grabbed in the end zone. CEJ Stroud 9 00:00:49,748 --> 00:00:53,428 Speaker 1: let us fires, throws a dark lets it God right 10 00:00:53,508 --> 00:00:56,388 Speaker 1: on the money. Love The sion hear about wold lettis 11 00:01:01,668 --> 00:01:04,628 Speaker 1: that's what they did? Then? What will they do now? X? 12 00:01:04,708 --> 00:01:06,908 Speaker 1: Before the draft, be sure to stream all the biggest 13 00:01:06,908 --> 00:01:09,668 Speaker 1: pro days on NFL Plus. Tomorrow you can catch c J. 14 00:01:09,788 --> 00:01:12,228 Speaker 1: Stroud's Pro Day at Ohouse State, followed by Bryce Young 15 00:01:12,268 --> 00:01:15,228 Speaker 1: and Alabama on Thursday, Will Levis in Kentucky Friday, and 16 00:01:15,228 --> 00:01:19,148 Speaker 1: then Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson closes us out on March thirtieth. 17 00:01:19,148 --> 00:01:21,268 Speaker 1: You can see it all right here on NFL Plus. 18 00:01:21,308 --> 00:01:23,228 Speaker 1: Sign up now and learning more at plus dot NFL 19 00:01:23,308 --> 00:01:26,428 Speaker 1: dot com What's Happening Welcome to Good Morning Football. We 20 00:01:26,468 --> 00:01:29,348 Speaker 1: are live in New York City. It's Tuesday, Marched my first. 21 00:01:29,548 --> 00:01:32,468 Speaker 1: I'm Jamie Urdoll, Kyle Brandt is here, Jason mccordy is there, 22 00:01:32,508 --> 00:01:35,388 Speaker 1: and Tom Pella Sero, my fellow Minnesotan, is on the 23 00:01:35,388 --> 00:01:38,948 Speaker 1: diagonal from me, Sarah Walsh. I appreciate your dedication to 24 00:01:38,988 --> 00:01:41,748 Speaker 1: the cause over the last six shows she was covering 25 00:01:41,788 --> 00:01:47,588 Speaker 1: while I was doing the nc double A Tournament. James back, 26 00:01:47,708 --> 00:01:50,948 Speaker 1: how you feeling? I feel awesome. I'm addicted to basketball, 27 00:01:50,948 --> 00:01:52,628 Speaker 1: but I had to come back to this to make 28 00:01:52,628 --> 00:01:54,548 Speaker 1: sure I shared my opinions on many of things that 29 00:01:54,628 --> 00:01:56,748 Speaker 1: happening free right. You know, I think we gotta do 30 00:01:56,788 --> 00:01:59,188 Speaker 1: this properly. I'm gonna come over here. Jamie Urdoll, you've 31 00:01:59,188 --> 00:02:01,388 Speaker 1: been covering the NCAA tournament. Did you miss us? Because 32 00:02:01,468 --> 00:02:03,708 Speaker 1: Jason mccordy thought you were never coming back. I know 33 00:02:03,788 --> 00:02:05,668 Speaker 1: he was worried. The games were unbelievable. But I got 34 00:02:05,668 --> 00:02:07,468 Speaker 1: to have a milkshake and I had a clickboard snap 35 00:02:07,548 --> 00:02:08,828 Speaker 1: right in front of me, and I made a friend 36 00:02:08,828 --> 00:02:11,068 Speaker 1: in Tom Izzo, who we're trying to get on the show. Yes, 37 00:02:12,548 --> 00:02:14,468 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it like you, Jamie. What is it 38 00:02:14,468 --> 00:02:16,548 Speaker 1: like to cover March Madison? Have it be your second 39 00:02:16,588 --> 00:02:20,668 Speaker 1: coolest job? I don't know. It's like it's emotional back 40 00:02:20,708 --> 00:02:27,868 Speaker 1: to you guys. Incredible Jamie. We don't probably say it 41 00:02:27,988 --> 00:02:30,308 Speaker 1: enough that we're probably all decent out our jobs, but 42 00:02:30,428 --> 00:02:33,548 Speaker 1: you were awesome, so good on the sidelines post game. 43 00:02:33,588 --> 00:02:36,508 Speaker 1: It was a pleasure to watch people like Jamie Artoll. 44 00:02:36,548 --> 00:02:38,468 Speaker 1: Doesn't she work with you guys? I'm like, yeah, she's 45 00:02:38,508 --> 00:02:41,068 Speaker 1: her own superstar. So you killed it. Happy that you 46 00:02:41,108 --> 00:02:42,748 Speaker 1: decide to come back to the shank you. I really 47 00:02:42,748 --> 00:02:45,908 Speaker 1: appreciate I do. I do. Yeah, I'll nailed the impression there. 48 00:02:45,988 --> 00:02:48,708 Speaker 1: Your ability to pull everybody in like I'm always good. 49 00:02:48,788 --> 00:02:50,388 Speaker 1: How is she getting them like? You seem like you're 50 00:02:50,428 --> 00:02:52,788 Speaker 1: up and over the top. You're comforting them, but you're 51 00:02:52,828 --> 00:02:55,788 Speaker 1: also congratulating them. It's a fantastic bound. Well. I appreciate 52 00:02:55,828 --> 00:02:57,748 Speaker 1: there is a there's a tough dynamic there. Here's like 53 00:02:57,828 --> 00:03:01,028 Speaker 1: inside the weeds. Is that like that Tobin Anderson after 54 00:03:01,108 --> 00:03:02,988 Speaker 1: you coach? That was the one that already was like, man, 55 00:03:03,028 --> 00:03:05,028 Speaker 1: you really had a grip on that guy. He was 56 00:03:05,108 --> 00:03:08,228 Speaker 1: like not steady on his feet in like an emotional way, 57 00:03:08,308 --> 00:03:11,268 Speaker 1: like we're getting like knocked into and he's like having 58 00:03:11,508 --> 00:03:14,748 Speaker 1: the moment of his life, and he had me around 59 00:03:14,788 --> 00:03:17,148 Speaker 1: like that, like he's hugging me because he's and so 60 00:03:17,188 --> 00:03:18,708 Speaker 1: what are you supposed to do with this arm? You know, Like, 61 00:03:18,748 --> 00:03:20,468 Speaker 1: am I just gonna let it hang here as we 62 00:03:20,548 --> 00:03:22,268 Speaker 1: have this or am I just gonna come in for 63 00:03:22,308 --> 00:03:24,388 Speaker 1: the real thing. You gotta hug him. You're steadying him. 64 00:03:24,788 --> 00:03:28,308 Speaker 1: We were later on in the show, We're gonna get 65 00:03:28,308 --> 00:03:30,228 Speaker 1: all the way into the week. Okay, let's go. That 66 00:03:30,348 --> 00:03:33,948 Speaker 1: was fantastic. I'm gonna leave block. It feels good to say. 67 00:03:34,388 --> 00:03:36,588 Speaker 1: Here's a reminder of the first ten picks in this 68 00:03:36,668 --> 00:03:39,548 Speaker 1: year's n NFL draft, we've already seen some movement. If 69 00:03:39,588 --> 00:03:42,708 Speaker 1: Panthers hold the number one overall spot by virtue of 70 00:03:42,708 --> 00:03:44,788 Speaker 1: a trade with the Chicago Bears that took him from 71 00:03:44,788 --> 00:03:47,748 Speaker 1: the ninth pick all the way up to the top spot. 72 00:03:47,828 --> 00:03:51,428 Speaker 1: Here's Panthers GM Scott Fitterer, when asked yesterday about his 73 00:03:51,548 --> 00:03:56,028 Speaker 1: team's plans. You're gonna go off. You better have conviction, 74 00:03:56,348 --> 00:04:00,788 Speaker 1: and we have conviction on uh players at that top 75 00:04:00,868 --> 00:04:02,788 Speaker 1: that we feel good about. We're still going through the 76 00:04:02,828 --> 00:04:05,268 Speaker 1: process right now. I mean, obviously we have our ideas. 77 00:04:05,748 --> 00:04:07,188 Speaker 1: You know, you're not going to make a move like that. 78 00:04:07,228 --> 00:04:10,828 Speaker 1: With that having that pretty much cemented. If there's ten 79 00:04:10,988 --> 00:04:14,068 Speaker 1: categories that you look at in a quarterback or any 80 00:04:14,108 --> 00:04:17,068 Speaker 1: player for that matter, the real question is not how 81 00:04:17,108 --> 00:04:20,028 Speaker 1: to evaluate each of those categories that I mean, that's 82 00:04:20,188 --> 00:04:21,588 Speaker 1: a part of the question. A big part of the 83 00:04:21,668 --> 00:04:23,228 Speaker 1: question is how much are you going to wait each 84 00:04:23,268 --> 00:04:28,188 Speaker 1: of those categories? Do you weigh that that stature pieces? Yeah, 85 00:04:28,228 --> 00:04:30,628 Speaker 1: I mean that would be like given the proprietary formula 86 00:04:30,668 --> 00:04:38,708 Speaker 1: for Kentucky Fried chicken, right, I mean, you know, I mean, oh, 87 00:04:38,788 --> 00:04:41,948 Speaker 1: that's funny. So the category that those reporters are most 88 00:04:41,948 --> 00:04:45,948 Speaker 1: concerned with is Alabama quarterback price doing the stature? You know, 89 00:04:46,108 --> 00:04:48,708 Speaker 1: do they have conviction about five foot ten and an 90 00:04:48,708 --> 00:04:50,788 Speaker 1: eighth of an inch? Ure? Do you add a couple 91 00:04:50,828 --> 00:04:53,148 Speaker 1: inches and go with CJ. Strout? It just depends on 92 00:04:53,468 --> 00:04:57,188 Speaker 1: what you want to cook for dinner tonight. Frank Reig, 93 00:04:57,268 --> 00:04:59,228 Speaker 1: the head coach with Panthers now not giving up the 94 00:04:59,268 --> 00:05:02,508 Speaker 1: eleven herbs and spices that they'll use to evaluate players 95 00:05:02,548 --> 00:05:06,308 Speaker 1: worthy of their first pick in the draft. Intrigue, Jason, 96 00:05:06,948 --> 00:05:09,428 Speaker 1: sprinkle some of that on top of your Kentucky friend Chicken, 97 00:05:09,508 --> 00:05:11,588 Speaker 1: my Kentucky. I'm more of a Popeye's guy. But that's 98 00:05:11,628 --> 00:05:14,348 Speaker 1: neither here nor there. But as I look at this 99 00:05:14,428 --> 00:05:16,028 Speaker 1: number one pick last night, I'm all right, let me, 100 00:05:16,108 --> 00:05:17,628 Speaker 1: let me do a little bit of research. Let me 101 00:05:17,828 --> 00:05:20,188 Speaker 1: dive into all the mock drafts that are all over 102 00:05:20,228 --> 00:05:22,468 Speaker 1: the internet. And it's just like you look at the 103 00:05:22,508 --> 00:05:24,628 Speaker 1: first flour that pop up on your Internet search, and 104 00:05:24,668 --> 00:05:27,748 Speaker 1: it was just like, all right, Bryce Young, C. J. Strout, 105 00:05:27,868 --> 00:05:31,788 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, and Will Levis. It was each mock drift 106 00:05:31,828 --> 00:05:34,508 Speaker 1: had a different quarterback going first overall. And I think 107 00:05:34,548 --> 00:05:37,588 Speaker 1: it's wonderful because, like Scott Fitter and like Frank Reich said, 108 00:05:37,628 --> 00:05:39,988 Speaker 1: there's so many categories that you dive into, and it's 109 00:05:39,988 --> 00:05:43,228 Speaker 1: all right, which category is the Carolina Panthers, Which one 110 00:05:43,268 --> 00:05:45,188 Speaker 1: are they gonna fall in love with? And how are 111 00:05:45,188 --> 00:05:47,388 Speaker 1: they going to wave these quarterbacks? And I think leading 112 00:05:47,468 --> 00:05:49,788 Speaker 1: up to this drift, they don't know and we don't know. 113 00:05:49,868 --> 00:05:52,028 Speaker 1: And I think that's the best part because going in 114 00:05:52,108 --> 00:05:53,628 Speaker 1: the draft night, we're all on the edge of our 115 00:05:53,708 --> 00:05:56,348 Speaker 1: toes waiting to see what the insiders is saying. Who's 116 00:05:56,348 --> 00:05:58,348 Speaker 1: going to be the number one pick? And they had 117 00:05:58,388 --> 00:06:00,428 Speaker 1: me think, and I'm just like, all right, you have 118 00:06:00,548 --> 00:06:02,788 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks there, how do you figure out which one 119 00:06:02,828 --> 00:06:04,908 Speaker 1: to go to? And what is that comparable too? And 120 00:06:04,988 --> 00:06:07,748 Speaker 1: I think about our audience. They wake up every single morning, 121 00:06:07,748 --> 00:06:09,588 Speaker 1: and at first, I'm like, all right, maybe you wake 122 00:06:09,668 --> 00:06:12,228 Speaker 1: up and you're craving some ice cream. There's like thirty 123 00:06:12,228 --> 00:06:14,628 Speaker 1: one flavor, so there's there's too many to choose from. 124 00:06:14,988 --> 00:06:17,228 Speaker 1: But you turn on NFL network and you see Good 125 00:06:17,228 --> 00:06:19,988 Speaker 1: Morning Football and you see four people at the desk, 126 00:06:20,028 --> 00:06:22,188 Speaker 1: and it gets you thinking, all right, how am I 127 00:06:22,188 --> 00:06:24,548 Speaker 1: gonna choose whiss host am I gonna be in love with? 128 00:06:24,948 --> 00:06:26,988 Speaker 1: So then you start to look and you look at 129 00:06:27,028 --> 00:06:29,068 Speaker 1: the long way to the far left. You see Kyle 130 00:06:29,108 --> 00:06:32,388 Speaker 1: Brandt there, and it's just like, all right, angry ones, energy, 131 00:06:32,828 --> 00:06:35,788 Speaker 1: funny as hell. Is that gonna be the personality that 132 00:06:35,948 --> 00:06:38,508 Speaker 1: I'm going to go with today? But you slide over 133 00:06:38,548 --> 00:06:41,188 Speaker 1: one you see Jamie, the beauty of the show, the 134 00:06:41,268 --> 00:06:44,348 Speaker 1: person that ties it all together, that has takes from 135 00:06:44,388 --> 00:06:47,308 Speaker 1: every single angle. Then you keep sliding over you see 136 00:06:47,308 --> 00:06:49,948 Speaker 1: Tom Pella Sero. It's like the insider. Do I want 137 00:06:49,948 --> 00:06:52,708 Speaker 1: to know what goes on behind closed doors? Do I 138 00:06:52,788 --> 00:06:55,908 Speaker 1: want the inside scoop this morning, and then you go 139 00:06:55,988 --> 00:06:58,308 Speaker 1: all the way to the far right and you're just like, well, 140 00:06:58,348 --> 00:07:02,068 Speaker 1: I mean, that guy's the total package and the move 141 00:07:02,188 --> 00:07:05,828 Speaker 1: to just have it all the brains, the beauty, everything 142 00:07:05,868 --> 00:07:08,108 Speaker 1: that you can see underneath the sun. Then you go 143 00:07:08,188 --> 00:07:11,068 Speaker 1: with that guy. But there's four different options and either 144 00:07:11,108 --> 00:07:13,068 Speaker 1: one of them you can't go wrong. And for the 145 00:07:13,108 --> 00:07:16,588 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, they're trying to determine which option they're gonna 146 00:07:16,628 --> 00:07:19,148 Speaker 1: go with for the first pick, and there's so many 147 00:07:19,188 --> 00:07:21,788 Speaker 1: different things to go. We talked about Bryce Young's weight 148 00:07:21,828 --> 00:07:23,988 Speaker 1: in his height, but he may talk about the accuracy 149 00:07:24,188 --> 00:07:26,948 Speaker 1: of Anthony richardson. How are you going to determine which 150 00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:29,468 Speaker 1: guy is going to be your guy? Is the toughest 151 00:07:29,508 --> 00:07:31,428 Speaker 1: thing for the Carolina Panthers, it's great. And you know 152 00:07:31,428 --> 00:07:33,268 Speaker 1: what it like the combine and the protees, they're like 153 00:07:33,428 --> 00:07:35,148 Speaker 1: a little sample, kind of get a little sample on 154 00:07:35,188 --> 00:07:38,188 Speaker 1: that stupid little spoony. I think it's great that we're 155 00:07:38,228 --> 00:07:40,588 Speaker 1: welcoming Jamie back in an opening segment about ice cream 156 00:07:40,588 --> 00:07:42,468 Speaker 1: and fried chicken. I mean, it's so perfect for you. 157 00:07:42,628 --> 00:07:45,228 Speaker 1: It's what you love, what you're into. Well, if why 158 00:07:45,388 --> 00:07:48,108 Speaker 1: is it not out here. You need a lazy Susan. 159 00:07:50,188 --> 00:07:52,428 Speaker 1: I need four flavors that I need you to really 160 00:07:52,468 --> 00:07:56,668 Speaker 1: do the deep diving right, Milkshakes and stuff. It did 161 00:07:56,748 --> 00:07:59,468 Speaker 1: not shakes. We're gonna get into that milkshake. By the way. 162 00:08:00,508 --> 00:08:02,588 Speaker 1: Do you know what David Tepper, the owner of the 163 00:08:02,628 --> 00:08:06,468 Speaker 1: Panthers legendary he has on his desk? Do you know what? 164 00:08:06,588 --> 00:08:08,188 Speaker 1: Time I do? But I'm not sure I should say 165 00:08:08,228 --> 00:08:10,788 Speaker 1: it on TV, I'm gonna say it. He has a 166 00:08:10,828 --> 00:08:14,668 Speaker 1: pair of brass knees on his desk. It's like a 167 00:08:14,668 --> 00:08:17,828 Speaker 1: little meta wore about being bold and aggressive. I think 168 00:08:17,868 --> 00:08:20,628 Speaker 1: that man figures massively in all of this. I think 169 00:08:20,668 --> 00:08:23,348 Speaker 1: that man is why they're at number one to begin with. 170 00:08:23,628 --> 00:08:27,908 Speaker 1: They already made a huge swing. I understand that David Tepper, 171 00:08:27,908 --> 00:08:29,788 Speaker 1: the owner of the Carolina Panthers, is a self made 172 00:08:29,828 --> 00:08:31,348 Speaker 1: billionaire who could have just spent the rest of his 173 00:08:31,348 --> 00:08:33,188 Speaker 1: life on a yacht and said, I'm gonna buy an 174 00:08:33,308 --> 00:08:35,788 Speaker 1: NFL team with the largest purchase price of all time. 175 00:08:36,028 --> 00:08:37,908 Speaker 1: He beat out another bidder because he was already a 176 00:08:37,908 --> 00:08:39,828 Speaker 1: part owner of the Steelers, so he was already vetted, 177 00:08:39,908 --> 00:08:41,748 Speaker 1: and he was a sole investor, did not have co 178 00:08:41,868 --> 00:08:45,028 Speaker 1: investors he was liquid. In the same time, he has 179 00:08:45,028 --> 00:08:48,588 Speaker 1: also bought a soccer team, Charlotte FC. Charlotte FC has 180 00:08:48,588 --> 00:08:52,108 Speaker 1: struggled since David Tepper bought them. The Carolina Panthers have struggled. 181 00:08:52,108 --> 00:08:55,068 Speaker 1: They're twenty nine and fifty three since David Tepper bought them. 182 00:08:55,228 --> 00:08:57,028 Speaker 1: This is not why he got off the yacht and 183 00:08:57,068 --> 00:08:58,788 Speaker 1: off the hell of pad. He didn't come in there, 184 00:08:58,828 --> 00:09:00,708 Speaker 1: get his teeth kicked in the NFC South and mess 185 00:09:00,748 --> 00:09:03,908 Speaker 1: around with p J Walker and Will Greer and Kyle 186 00:09:03,948 --> 00:09:06,668 Speaker 1: Allen and Taylor Now. He came in here to win. Otherwise, 187 00:09:06,668 --> 00:09:08,188 Speaker 1: what the hell am I doing here? I think that's 188 00:09:08,188 --> 00:09:10,548 Speaker 1: why they're the number one pick. I also think that 189 00:09:10,588 --> 00:09:12,908 Speaker 1: he's calling the shots here in so many ways. I 190 00:09:12,948 --> 00:09:15,308 Speaker 1: think the number one pick is intriguing. I don't think 191 00:09:15,348 --> 00:09:17,908 Speaker 1: it's it's Chalk. I don't think it's Bryce or CJ. 192 00:09:18,108 --> 00:09:20,508 Speaker 1: Could he do something crazy and take Richardson number one 193 00:09:20,508 --> 00:09:23,068 Speaker 1: overall because he has billionaire thoughts and he wants to 194 00:09:23,068 --> 00:09:24,588 Speaker 1: go big, and he wants to win this thing and 195 00:09:24,828 --> 00:09:27,428 Speaker 1: get the best possible athlete. Yes, I really do. I 196 00:09:27,468 --> 00:09:29,308 Speaker 1: think if this was an old school football guy who's 197 00:09:29,308 --> 00:09:31,428 Speaker 1: owned a football team for thirty years and just going 198 00:09:31,508 --> 00:09:33,548 Speaker 1: by the book and conventional Lada da da da. You 199 00:09:33,628 --> 00:09:35,348 Speaker 1: just go with a scout saying you trust him, and 200 00:09:35,388 --> 00:09:38,388 Speaker 1: here we go. I think David Tepper's into making Empire moves. 201 00:09:38,428 --> 00:09:40,548 Speaker 1: As Heisenberg would say, We're not here to go eight 202 00:09:40,588 --> 00:09:42,268 Speaker 1: and seven or seven and eight or whatever the hell 203 00:09:42,308 --> 00:09:43,748 Speaker 1: the math works out here this year. I think we're 204 00:09:43,748 --> 00:09:45,268 Speaker 1: here to win a Super Bowl. I think he's gonna 205 00:09:45,268 --> 00:09:46,748 Speaker 1: swing out of his shoes on this and if it 206 00:09:46,788 --> 00:09:48,988 Speaker 1: doesn't work, maybe he sells, the team goes back to 207 00:09:48,988 --> 00:09:51,228 Speaker 1: the yacht. That's the luxury he has. I think he 208 00:09:51,348 --> 00:09:53,948 Speaker 1: is suffering in soccer, suffering in football, and that's not 209 00:09:53,988 --> 00:09:55,988 Speaker 1: why he's playing the game. I think Tommy could go anywhere, 210 00:09:55,988 --> 00:09:57,788 Speaker 1: and I think this is big time an owner's pick. 211 00:09:57,908 --> 00:09:59,428 Speaker 1: That's why you get into the game and make picks 212 00:09:59,428 --> 00:10:01,668 Speaker 1: like this. We'll give David Tepper credit for what he's 213 00:10:01,708 --> 00:10:04,708 Speaker 1: done this offseason. He gave them a lot of rese sources. 214 00:10:04,708 --> 00:10:06,468 Speaker 1: When you look at not just hiring Frank right, but 215 00:10:06,508 --> 00:10:08,948 Speaker 1: the staff that they put together. And you've got this 216 00:10:09,188 --> 00:10:12,268 Speaker 1: unique mix of the veteran coaches, bringing in a dom 217 00:10:12,428 --> 00:10:14,588 Speaker 1: Capers as part of your staff, and then you've got 218 00:10:14,628 --> 00:10:16,668 Speaker 1: the young up and comers and jero Evro being the 219 00:10:16,668 --> 00:10:19,628 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, which was not an inexpensive move, Thomas Brown 220 00:10:19,948 --> 00:10:22,388 Speaker 1: being the offensive coordinator, guys like Sean Jefferson coming in 221 00:10:22,428 --> 00:10:25,028 Speaker 1: as the wide receivers coach. That's putting money into the 222 00:10:25,028 --> 00:10:27,268 Speaker 1: staff to put the right people around make sure this 223 00:10:27,348 --> 00:10:30,028 Speaker 1: team and this young quarterback are going to have the 224 00:10:30,108 --> 00:10:33,028 Speaker 1: right supporting cast. Now, Frank Creich being the head coach, 225 00:10:33,148 --> 00:10:35,708 Speaker 1: and he talked yesterday about what he looks forward. Of course, 226 00:10:35,748 --> 00:10:38,148 Speaker 1: didn't want to give anything away, but it's a fairness 227 00:10:38,188 --> 00:10:40,748 Speaker 1: say Frank Creik might have a type for the quarterback 228 00:10:40,748 --> 00:10:42,708 Speaker 1: that he's looking. Look at the physical attributes of the 229 00:10:42,748 --> 00:10:46,668 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that Frank Reich had during his time in Indianapolis. 230 00:10:47,428 --> 00:10:50,268 Speaker 1: Pretty tall guys. They all are kind of the same 231 00:10:50,348 --> 00:10:53,748 Speaker 1: shape more or less six or four six five, big 232 00:10:53,788 --> 00:10:58,108 Speaker 1: strong pocket passing types. You know, Luck could move, Wentz 233 00:10:58,188 --> 00:11:01,028 Speaker 1: could move, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, Jacoby Percent They're all 234 00:11:01,148 --> 00:11:05,908 Speaker 1: kind of those big bodied pocket passers. Now, Frank Reich 235 00:11:05,948 --> 00:11:08,588 Speaker 1: said yesterday, well, I also had a really high grade 236 00:11:08,588 --> 00:11:11,428 Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson when he was coming out. Well that's fine, 237 00:11:11,828 --> 00:11:14,348 Speaker 1: but so far everybody of your track record says you 238 00:11:14,388 --> 00:11:18,228 Speaker 1: want that traditional body type. And you brought up the comparison. Okay, 239 00:11:18,308 --> 00:11:20,308 Speaker 1: the four of us on the set, who would you take? Well, 240 00:11:20,348 --> 00:11:22,388 Speaker 1: I guess I'm probably the Bryce Young of this, not 241 00:11:22,428 --> 00:11:24,148 Speaker 1: just because I might be the best, but else because 242 00:11:24,268 --> 00:11:26,268 Speaker 1: we're the same height, and I don't know that that 243 00:11:26,308 --> 00:11:28,908 Speaker 1: fits worked. Frank Raich is looking for here with Bryce Young. 244 00:11:28,948 --> 00:11:31,268 Speaker 1: You've got everything in the package, everything that you look 245 00:11:31,308 --> 00:11:33,228 Speaker 1: for when you talked to scouts and coaches about him, 246 00:11:33,228 --> 00:11:36,948 Speaker 1: how he throws the football, the processing, a style of 247 00:11:36,948 --> 00:11:39,108 Speaker 1: offense that he comes out of here. The one thing, 248 00:11:39,148 --> 00:11:41,428 Speaker 1: it's not just the height, but it's also just the 249 00:11:41,508 --> 00:11:44,548 Speaker 1: overall size. He's a smaller framed guy. He played it 250 00:11:44,668 --> 00:11:46,708 Speaker 1: like a buck eighty six last year. Put on a 251 00:11:46,708 --> 00:11:49,348 Speaker 1: bunch of weight for the combine. Are you gonna be 252 00:11:49,348 --> 00:11:51,468 Speaker 1: able to convince yourself that we can make this work. 253 00:11:51,548 --> 00:11:53,348 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to get him outside the pocket because 254 00:11:53,348 --> 00:11:55,428 Speaker 1: you got these big six foot six defensive linemen in 255 00:11:55,428 --> 00:11:56,988 Speaker 1: front of him. We're got to play a different style 256 00:11:56,988 --> 00:11:58,868 Speaker 1: of offense. These are all the things that they've got 257 00:11:58,868 --> 00:12:01,028 Speaker 1: to evaluate moving forward. And yeah, that absolutely leads a 258 00:12:01,028 --> 00:12:03,508 Speaker 1: lot of intribuments. Well, it's promising about what Bryce Young 259 00:12:03,588 --> 00:12:05,428 Speaker 1: just had to go up against in the last couple 260 00:12:05,468 --> 00:12:06,788 Speaker 1: of years is that the guys coming out of the 261 00:12:06,868 --> 00:12:08,508 Speaker 1: SEC and the defensive side of the ball are six 262 00:12:08,548 --> 00:12:10,508 Speaker 1: six and they have long arm. So he's facing a 263 00:12:10,588 --> 00:12:12,788 Speaker 1: Georgia defense that feels like they have top ten picks 264 00:12:12,828 --> 00:12:14,428 Speaker 1: left and right over the last couple of years. So 265 00:12:14,468 --> 00:12:16,788 Speaker 1: it's not something that Bryce Young hasn't seen before. Can 266 00:12:16,828 --> 00:12:19,388 Speaker 1: I see the screen again with the quarterback prospects, because 267 00:12:19,548 --> 00:12:21,508 Speaker 1: what I love about the ice cream flavors here is 268 00:12:21,548 --> 00:12:25,148 Speaker 1: that they are all so different, not only in their size, 269 00:12:25,148 --> 00:12:28,828 Speaker 1: but of their style of play, of their experience. Bryce 270 00:12:28,868 --> 00:12:31,228 Speaker 1: Young is coming off of winning a Heisman, winning a 271 00:12:31,308 --> 00:12:34,148 Speaker 1: national championship, He was a toast of the town in Tuscaloosa, 272 00:12:34,188 --> 00:12:37,148 Speaker 1: and the SEC CJ Strown a plethora of experience. But 273 00:12:37,308 --> 00:12:39,828 Speaker 1: like is their question about what his willingness during the ball. 274 00:12:39,988 --> 00:12:43,748 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson has a dozen games if that under his 275 00:12:43,788 --> 00:12:45,828 Speaker 1: belt for college football, and then we'll loves is kind 276 00:12:45,828 --> 00:12:48,868 Speaker 1: of the elder statesman of the group. Their size is different, 277 00:12:48,868 --> 00:12:52,828 Speaker 1: their experience, their personalities are different, and this is where 278 00:12:52,828 --> 00:12:57,628 Speaker 1: the intrigue comes. It's the Panthers, and subsequently the picks 279 00:12:57,668 --> 00:13:00,468 Speaker 1: after the Panthers are going to tell us their personality, 280 00:13:00,668 --> 00:13:02,828 Speaker 1: the personality of the team that they are investing in 281 00:13:03,028 --> 00:13:05,588 Speaker 1: for the future. And it's a total domino effect because 282 00:13:05,588 --> 00:13:08,908 Speaker 1: once the Panthers go, then the Texans have something to decide, 283 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:11,068 Speaker 1: and some one and so forth the Colts. So it's 284 00:13:11,108 --> 00:13:13,188 Speaker 1: not just about the first team. The entry lies and 285 00:13:13,228 --> 00:13:15,788 Speaker 1: I think the next four or five picks, speaking of 286 00:13:15,828 --> 00:13:17,828 Speaker 1: the Texans in the direction that they are going in, 287 00:13:17,828 --> 00:13:19,228 Speaker 1: what do we got for us? In the free agency, 288 00:13:19,428 --> 00:13:22,388 Speaker 1: the Texans continue to be the kings of the mid 289 00:13:22,508 --> 00:13:25,508 Speaker 1: level NFL contract. Everybody else is trying to go either 290 00:13:25,588 --> 00:13:29,068 Speaker 1: veteran veteran type deals, the minimum type deals, or it's 291 00:13:29,068 --> 00:13:32,108 Speaker 1: the big deals. The Texans, year after year under Nick Kissario, 292 00:13:32,428 --> 00:13:34,828 Speaker 1: do these one year deals that are pretty good. They 293 00:13:34,868 --> 00:13:38,148 Speaker 1: did another one yesterday, Dalton Schultz, the former Cowboys tight end, 294 00:13:38,148 --> 00:13:40,508 Speaker 1: coming in on a one year deal. It's worth up 295 00:13:40,508 --> 00:13:43,348 Speaker 1: to nine million dollars a. Schultz's numbers were down a 296 00:13:43,388 --> 00:13:45,788 Speaker 1: little bit last year when he was playing on the franchise, 297 00:13:45,828 --> 00:13:49,068 Speaker 1: take he also played through a pretty significant PCLI entry 298 00:13:49,108 --> 00:13:52,268 Speaker 1: for most of the season. Similar deal like the Lamar Jackson, 299 00:13:52,308 --> 00:13:55,028 Speaker 1: had Schultz braced it up, kept going out on the field. 300 00:13:55,028 --> 00:13:57,108 Speaker 1: That probably impacted his tape through the course of the 301 00:13:57,188 --> 00:13:59,468 Speaker 1: year and the whole tight end. Mark ht just didn't 302 00:13:59,468 --> 00:14:02,148 Speaker 1: go where people expected it to this year in free agency, 303 00:14:02,268 --> 00:14:04,308 Speaker 1: so he's still twenty six years old, gets a one 304 00:14:04,548 --> 00:14:06,548 Speaker 1: year deal. You should see like a hundred targets there. 305 00:14:06,708 --> 00:14:09,388 Speaker 1: Hits the market again next year, another one of those 306 00:14:09,388 --> 00:14:12,708 Speaker 1: one year deals. Devin Singletary, former Bills running back, headed 307 00:14:12,708 --> 00:14:14,948 Speaker 1: to Houston on a one year deal. We're up to 308 00:14:15,028 --> 00:14:17,868 Speaker 1: three point seven five million, and they got Damian Pierce, 309 00:14:18,228 --> 00:14:20,828 Speaker 1: but it can't be fifty Damian Pierce touches every single game. 310 00:14:20,868 --> 00:14:23,428 Speaker 1: So you bring in Singletary, he'll be the compliment of 311 00:14:23,508 --> 00:14:25,948 Speaker 1: Pierce in that backfield. Another guy who's got a chance 312 00:14:25,988 --> 00:14:28,588 Speaker 1: to make himself some money, play a good role, and 313 00:14:28,588 --> 00:14:31,388 Speaker 1: they're building that thing up around whatever young quarterback that 314 00:14:31,428 --> 00:14:34,668 Speaker 1: they maybe maybe probably likely to take a number two. 315 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:37,508 Speaker 1: Would you call him the kings of the midlevel deal 316 00:14:37,588 --> 00:14:41,788 Speaker 1: midlevels If you look over the last several years, everybody 317 00:14:41,788 --> 00:14:43,668 Speaker 1: else will try to do those minimum deals. The Texans 318 00:14:43,708 --> 00:14:45,708 Speaker 1: will go, no, we'll give you two three million, we'll 319 00:14:45,708 --> 00:14:47,788 Speaker 1: get you in well That's how they've been bringing guys there. 320 00:14:47,828 --> 00:14:49,388 Speaker 1: Some of them work, some of them don't. But you 321 00:14:49,428 --> 00:14:51,908 Speaker 1: create competition, you build from the middle of your roster up, 322 00:14:51,948 --> 00:14:54,028 Speaker 1: not unlike how we worked in New England. Were sounding 323 00:14:54,068 --> 00:15:02,428 Speaker 1: like forty free agents, all deals like that. Baker Mayfield 324 00:15:02,468 --> 00:15:05,268 Speaker 1: and the Bucks have made it a fish. Mayfield signed 325 00:15:05,268 --> 00:15:07,428 Speaker 1: his one year deal worth up to eight and a 326 00:15:07,468 --> 00:15:10,748 Speaker 1: half billion dollars yesterday in Tampa. He was asked on 327 00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:13,428 Speaker 1: NFL Now if he feels like he needs to fill 328 00:15:13,628 --> 00:15:18,828 Speaker 1: one Tom Brady's shoes. I'm not Tom. I'm not gonna 329 00:15:18,868 --> 00:15:20,828 Speaker 1: try and beat Tom. He's the greatest quarterback to ever 330 00:15:20,868 --> 00:15:24,588 Speaker 1: play the game and he deserves that recognition. Those are 331 00:15:24,748 --> 00:15:26,988 Speaker 1: those are big shoes to fill. But I'm just gonna 332 00:15:26,988 --> 00:15:31,268 Speaker 1: try and wear my own. All Right, it's time for 333 00:15:31,308 --> 00:15:33,308 Speaker 1: a game of big deal or no big deal. We'll 334 00:15:33,348 --> 00:15:35,308 Speaker 1: start first with what we just heard from the new 335 00:15:35,508 --> 00:15:38,548 Speaker 1: Buccaneers quarterback, at least the newest one in the room. 336 00:15:38,628 --> 00:15:42,228 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield doesn't seem pressured to fill Tom Brady's shoes. Jason, 337 00:15:42,268 --> 00:15:43,628 Speaker 1: is that a big deal or not a big deal? 338 00:15:44,308 --> 00:15:46,988 Speaker 1: No big deal? I think with Baker Mayfield, this is 339 00:15:46,988 --> 00:15:49,908 Speaker 1: what I was expecting to say, and the comparisons Tom Brady. 340 00:15:50,108 --> 00:15:52,868 Speaker 1: We saw Baker last year at headbutting teammates. Tom did 341 00:15:52,908 --> 00:15:55,948 Speaker 1: it for years, but Baker Mayfield talked about They asked 342 00:15:56,028 --> 00:15:58,428 Speaker 1: him like last year, was it humbling, and he said, no, 343 00:15:58,508 --> 00:16:00,508 Speaker 1: it didn't humble me. It just showed me that I 344 00:16:00,548 --> 00:16:03,228 Speaker 1: can push through anything. And I think that's the confidence 345 00:16:03,268 --> 00:16:06,228 Speaker 1: level that Baker Mayfiel has always had. So I don't 346 00:16:06,228 --> 00:16:08,788 Speaker 1: think he's stepping in this Oh my goodness, I'm behind 347 00:16:08,868 --> 00:16:10,708 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is just like, no, I just got a 348 00:16:10,788 --> 00:16:13,268 Speaker 1: goal there and be Baker Mayfield and let my talent, 349 00:16:13,548 --> 00:16:16,388 Speaker 1: my passion, and my energy showed through. So I'm excited 350 00:16:16,428 --> 00:16:18,388 Speaker 1: to see him in Tampa, and I believe every word 351 00:16:18,388 --> 00:16:20,628 Speaker 1: that he said. He's not worried about who he's following. 352 00:16:20,748 --> 00:16:23,108 Speaker 1: He's just worrying about going there, performing and showing that 353 00:16:23,308 --> 00:16:25,308 Speaker 1: he is still that number one picked I went to Cleveland. 354 00:16:25,348 --> 00:16:26,708 Speaker 1: I'm feeling the same way you do. But I do 355 00:16:26,748 --> 00:16:28,108 Speaker 1: think it's a big deal because I think that's one 356 00:16:28,148 --> 00:16:30,468 Speaker 1: of his greatest assets. I think he is the most 357 00:16:30,548 --> 00:16:32,868 Speaker 1: unafraid quarterback we have in the league. I just I 358 00:16:32,868 --> 00:16:34,508 Speaker 1: don't know if he's how good he is right now. 359 00:16:34,548 --> 00:16:38,348 Speaker 1: But he's completely unafraid. Michael Jackson passed away before it 360 00:16:38,388 --> 00:16:40,188 Speaker 1: was supposed to be his final tour, and they planned 361 00:16:40,228 --> 00:16:41,668 Speaker 1: it and they prepared it and they choreographed, and he 362 00:16:41,708 --> 00:16:44,188 Speaker 1: passed away. Baker Mayfield could have filled in from Michael 363 00:16:44,228 --> 00:16:47,028 Speaker 1: Jackson on that tour and he wouldn't be nervous. I 364 00:16:47,028 --> 00:16:48,988 Speaker 1: got it, no problem. I don't know if he can 365 00:16:49,068 --> 00:16:51,108 Speaker 1: pull it off, but he would not shake in his 366 00:16:51,108 --> 00:16:53,148 Speaker 1: shoes at all. Like, look, Michael Shoet's the big ones 367 00:16:53,148 --> 00:16:54,588 Speaker 1: to fill, but I'm gonna wear my own and he 368 00:16:54,628 --> 00:16:56,228 Speaker 1: would go out there and give it his best. Now, 369 00:16:56,268 --> 00:16:57,908 Speaker 1: he may go out and throw four interceptions in the 370 00:16:57,908 --> 00:17:00,148 Speaker 1: first game for the Buccaneers, but I love the confidence. 371 00:17:00,148 --> 00:17:02,468 Speaker 1: I will only say this, this is third shot as 372 00:17:02,468 --> 00:17:05,308 Speaker 1: a starter, and I don't count the Ramsay third shot. 373 00:17:05,348 --> 00:17:08,188 Speaker 1: That's it. You don't get a fourth shot. I love Baker. 374 00:17:08,268 --> 00:17:09,668 Speaker 1: I think he's great for the league, and I think 375 00:17:09,668 --> 00:17:11,828 Speaker 1: he has a huge arm and is very accurate. But 376 00:17:11,868 --> 00:17:13,708 Speaker 1: this is probably the last shot. I think he's gonna 377 00:17:13,748 --> 00:17:16,228 Speaker 1: win that competition. I'm calling it March. Kyle Trask. Sure, 378 00:17:16,388 --> 00:17:18,468 Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield start Week one for the Bucks. 379 00:17:18,548 --> 00:17:20,028 Speaker 1: You won't start week one fro ant other teams just 380 00:17:20,068 --> 00:17:21,868 Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. You better be confident. Baker could 381 00:17:21,868 --> 00:17:27,068 Speaker 1: probably dance like Michael two. Remember, yeah, yeah, I couldn't 382 00:17:27,108 --> 00:17:29,068 Speaker 1: help but think because I was listening to that quote 383 00:17:29,348 --> 00:17:31,668 Speaker 1: from Baker Mayfield. Kyle, could you actually just give me 384 00:17:31,988 --> 00:17:34,188 Speaker 1: a dramatic reading looking at that camera right there, just 385 00:17:34,228 --> 00:17:36,148 Speaker 1: give me a dramatic reading of the quote this place 386 00:17:36,348 --> 00:17:40,388 Speaker 1: you should be good. Oh my god, Oh my gosh. 387 00:17:40,468 --> 00:17:45,908 Speaker 1: I'm not Tom. I'm not gonna try to be Tom. 388 00:17:46,228 --> 00:17:48,788 Speaker 1: He's the greatest ever played the game and he deserves 389 00:17:48,788 --> 00:17:54,188 Speaker 1: that recognition. I'm gonna be myself. Tom was himself scene. 390 00:17:54,268 --> 00:17:57,308 Speaker 1: That's it. We were supposed to see me in splitster 391 00:17:57,388 --> 00:18:00,148 Speaker 1: in that it was about me and now you're so 392 00:18:00,308 --> 00:18:03,908 Speaker 1: cool a little. I wasn't off the book. I'm sorry 393 00:18:03,908 --> 00:18:05,988 Speaker 1: I had used the Q cards. It's great. I love 394 00:18:05,988 --> 00:18:07,948 Speaker 1: her improviditional exercise. Why do you why do you go 395 00:18:08,028 --> 00:18:09,428 Speaker 1: to that, Tom? No, because it was supposed to be 396 00:18:09,428 --> 00:18:10,948 Speaker 1: you were supposed to be seeing me like it's about me. 397 00:18:11,028 --> 00:18:12,948 Speaker 1: That was the jokes on Tom. But it didn't work. 398 00:18:13,348 --> 00:18:16,148 Speaker 1: Damie Hughes, Okay, great, So so it's a big deal 399 00:18:17,428 --> 00:18:20,068 Speaker 1: all that for nothing. Apparently. I mean, I know this 400 00:18:20,188 --> 00:18:22,868 Speaker 1: out of the table, enjoyed the commitment a scene from 401 00:18:22,868 --> 00:18:29,148 Speaker 1: Airplane problem. Is it a big deal? It's not a 402 00:18:29,188 --> 00:18:32,788 Speaker 1: big deal. If it would have been concerning, if he 403 00:18:32,828 --> 00:18:34,788 Speaker 1: had said, like, yeah, I can't wait to do exactly 404 00:18:34,868 --> 00:18:36,628 Speaker 1: what that man has done, then it just would have 405 00:18:36,668 --> 00:18:39,388 Speaker 1: been like, let's rain, I'll like, no, take a fire extinguisher, 406 00:18:39,428 --> 00:18:41,188 Speaker 1: if that was how that was going to go. But no, 407 00:18:41,388 --> 00:18:43,188 Speaker 1: not a big deal, Baker, thank you for answering a 408 00:18:43,308 --> 00:18:45,268 Speaker 1: question in a mature way that does not lead us 409 00:18:45,308 --> 00:18:47,068 Speaker 1: to like have an entire segment about you today. I 410 00:18:47,108 --> 00:18:55,148 Speaker 1: appreciate that about you. Black. At the time, it was 411 00:18:55,228 --> 00:18:58,908 Speaker 1: difficult to believe that this would be the last time 412 00:18:58,988 --> 00:19:01,548 Speaker 1: that we would see Aaron Rodgers in a Packer's uniform 413 00:19:01,668 --> 00:19:04,828 Speaker 1: walking off lambeau Field after a bitter loss the Lions 414 00:19:04,868 --> 00:19:08,468 Speaker 1: that kept Reinvay out of the playoffs. But in reality 415 00:19:09,188 --> 00:19:11,748 Speaker 1: now the belief has sunk it and we have to 416 00:19:11,828 --> 00:19:14,948 Speaker 1: face the music, as do the Packers in the Jets now. 417 00:19:15,028 --> 00:19:17,828 Speaker 1: As if one former MVP quarterback isn't in limbo enough, 418 00:19:17,908 --> 00:19:20,508 Speaker 1: we have two. I'm looking at you, Lamar Jackson. So 419 00:19:20,708 --> 00:19:22,948 Speaker 1: where do we stand with the almost all but certain 420 00:19:22,988 --> 00:19:26,108 Speaker 1: potential Aaron Rodgers trade to the Jets. Packers and Jets 421 00:19:26,148 --> 00:19:29,588 Speaker 1: have been negotiating for weeks. As of now, they're not 422 00:19:29,748 --> 00:19:33,108 Speaker 1: there yet on a green to compensation for Aaron Rodgers, 423 00:19:33,188 --> 00:19:36,028 Speaker 1: who of course declared his intentions on the Pat McVie 424 00:19:36,108 --> 00:19:39,268 Speaker 1: Show last week, saying the intention now is to play 425 00:19:39,868 --> 00:19:42,908 Speaker 1: and to play for the Jets. So the Packers are 426 00:19:42,948 --> 00:19:47,308 Speaker 1: not looking for the type of package that the Broncos 427 00:19:47,388 --> 00:19:49,748 Speaker 1: gave up last year for Russell Wilson, which was two twos, 428 00:19:50,028 --> 00:19:53,588 Speaker 1: two ones and three players, but not looking for multiple 429 00:19:53,628 --> 00:19:55,988 Speaker 1: ones like the Rams ended up giving up in the 430 00:19:55,988 --> 00:19:58,268 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford deal on top of Jared Goff, though Golf 431 00:19:58,308 --> 00:20:01,068 Speaker 1: had uploated contract, there were some moving parts. Now on 432 00:20:01,108 --> 00:20:03,748 Speaker 1: the calculus is a little bit different. They're also not 433 00:20:04,428 --> 00:20:06,868 Speaker 1: the Packers are not going to take the type of 434 00:20:07,348 --> 00:20:10,948 Speaker 1: third round pick that Matt Ryan brought the Falcons last 435 00:20:10,988 --> 00:20:14,388 Speaker 1: year during that trade. Somewhere in between is the magic 436 00:20:14,468 --> 00:20:17,508 Speaker 1: formula of how this trade gets done. They're not far apart, 437 00:20:17,988 --> 00:20:19,668 Speaker 1: but they're not close at this point. So where are 438 00:20:19,668 --> 00:20:21,908 Speaker 1: the important checkpoints? As we move forward? Well one week 439 00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:25,468 Speaker 1: from now, all the teams will be in Arizona for 440 00:20:25,588 --> 00:20:28,468 Speaker 1: the NFL League Meeting, which means Brian Goodacoon's Joe Douglas 441 00:20:28,548 --> 00:20:29,868 Speaker 1: in the same place at least for a while. I 442 00:20:29,908 --> 00:20:31,828 Speaker 1: don't know with pro days how much they'll be there. 443 00:20:32,108 --> 00:20:34,068 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy Woody Johnson will be in the same place 444 00:20:34,108 --> 00:20:36,948 Speaker 1: as well. The next real checkpoint along the line in 445 00:20:37,108 --> 00:20:40,108 Speaker 1: terms of the pressure point is going to be the draft, 446 00:20:40,188 --> 00:20:42,988 Speaker 1: which is the last week of April. Because at that point, 447 00:20:43,388 --> 00:20:46,028 Speaker 1: if we get beyond the draft now, the Packers aren't 448 00:20:46,068 --> 00:20:48,308 Speaker 1: getting twenty twenty three draft picks that help you this year. 449 00:20:48,388 --> 00:20:51,188 Speaker 1: Now any draft capital is out into twenty twenty four 450 00:20:51,828 --> 00:20:56,268 Speaker 1: and beyond, and so that's going to be where perhaps 451 00:20:56,468 --> 00:20:59,268 Speaker 1: it's okay, do we take the best thing possible right now, 452 00:20:59,348 --> 00:21:02,028 Speaker 1: the Jets best offer, or do we go beyond it? 453 00:21:02,028 --> 00:21:04,988 Speaker 1: Because if you go beyond it, this is George Kastanza 454 00:21:05,188 --> 00:21:06,908 Speaker 1: driving his in laws to a non existant house in 455 00:21:06,908 --> 00:21:09,348 Speaker 1: the Poconos, And this is full on like, Okay, you 456 00:21:09,428 --> 00:21:11,228 Speaker 1: got Jets, do you want to ruin your season? We 457 00:21:11,308 --> 00:21:12,868 Speaker 1: can go as long as you want to go, because 458 00:21:12,908 --> 00:21:15,748 Speaker 1: there's no reason then the Packers logistically have to do 459 00:21:15,828 --> 00:21:19,548 Speaker 1: anything with Aaron Rodgers until you get into training camp. Now, 460 00:21:19,788 --> 00:21:22,548 Speaker 1: obviously the Jets at some point would want Rogers to 461 00:21:22,748 --> 00:21:25,908 Speaker 1: be there late July when they open camp. Rogers can 462 00:21:26,028 --> 00:21:27,668 Speaker 1: even though he's still in a contract with the Packers. 463 00:21:27,828 --> 00:21:30,148 Speaker 1: There's no rules barring him from, oh, I don't know, 464 00:21:30,268 --> 00:21:33,188 Speaker 1: booking flights for all the Jets wide receivers and Alan 465 00:21:33,228 --> 00:21:34,788 Speaker 1: Lazard and his buddies and bringing them all out to 466 00:21:34,828 --> 00:21:36,828 Speaker 1: California to throw with them there and kind of get 467 00:21:36,868 --> 00:21:39,348 Speaker 1: the training. He already knows the offense because Nathaniel Hacker, 468 00:21:39,348 --> 00:21:41,428 Speaker 1: who was with him in Green Bay. But in terms 469 00:21:41,468 --> 00:21:45,308 Speaker 1: of actually getting them on the field, the trade obviously 470 00:21:45,388 --> 00:21:47,348 Speaker 1: has to be executed. So if you don't get something 471 00:21:47,468 --> 00:21:49,548 Speaker 1: done by the start of training camp, now we're into 472 00:21:49,588 --> 00:21:52,428 Speaker 1: a different phase of the stair down where the only 473 00:21:52,508 --> 00:21:56,548 Speaker 1: remaining checkpoint is really the day before the regular season opener, 474 00:21:56,668 --> 00:21:58,828 Speaker 1: which is where the Packers would have to exercise Aaron 475 00:21:58,908 --> 00:22:02,348 Speaker 1: Rodgers option bonus. Now, at that point the Packers have 476 00:22:02,428 --> 00:22:04,668 Speaker 1: to make a decision either way. They owe him sixty 477 00:22:04,708 --> 00:22:07,228 Speaker 1: million dollars at that point, but the Jets are so 478 00:22:07,308 --> 00:22:10,548 Speaker 1: far beyond actually getting him integrated that it's hard to 479 00:22:10,588 --> 00:22:14,268 Speaker 1: imagine it goes that far. So again, the real checkpoint 480 00:22:14,268 --> 00:22:15,988 Speaker 1: here to watch. The pressure point is going to be 481 00:22:16,108 --> 00:22:17,988 Speaker 1: that week of the NFL Draft could happen before then. 482 00:22:18,308 --> 00:22:19,988 Speaker 1: It could be one phone call today, just you know what, 483 00:22:20,428 --> 00:22:23,468 Speaker 1: You're right dealed up. I don't get the sense over 484 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,908 Speaker 1: the last couple of days that anything has moved substantially. 485 00:22:26,068 --> 00:22:28,468 Speaker 1: It could change today again with one phone call. But 486 00:22:28,548 --> 00:22:30,548 Speaker 1: if not, and if they don't work out something face 487 00:22:30,588 --> 00:22:33,308 Speaker 1: to face next week, then really you're talking about getting 488 00:22:33,388 --> 00:22:36,028 Speaker 1: right down to draft week before potentially every result. Just 489 00:22:36,108 --> 00:22:40,028 Speaker 1: a scenario. Let's say that the Jets are negotiating and 490 00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:41,908 Speaker 1: working and working and working, and the Packers just won't 491 00:22:41,908 --> 00:22:44,388 Speaker 1: blink and won't blink, and the Jets say, we're changing plants, 492 00:22:45,028 --> 00:22:46,988 Speaker 1: we're not on there in Rodgers business anymore, and we're 493 00:22:47,028 --> 00:22:48,948 Speaker 1: gonna make do either with Zack Wilson and we're gonna 494 00:22:48,948 --> 00:22:50,868 Speaker 1: pick up a free agent and they're out. What are 495 00:22:50,868 --> 00:22:53,868 Speaker 1: the Packers do with Rogers? Then, well, first of all 496 00:22:54,188 --> 00:22:57,068 Speaker 1: the Jets. The options have dwindled for the Jets because 497 00:22:57,148 --> 00:22:59,428 Speaker 1: unless you're going to go all in on Lamar Jackson, 498 00:23:00,348 --> 00:23:02,028 Speaker 1: who are you going to get Zack Wilson? You're gonna 499 00:23:02,028 --> 00:23:04,668 Speaker 1: sign Blaine Gabbert? Yeah, I mean they're absolutely going to 500 00:23:04,708 --> 00:23:06,948 Speaker 1: sign a veteran they're not made. Maybe a guy like 501 00:23:07,068 --> 00:23:10,388 Speaker 1: Tannehill if he becomes available, that would be another potential 502 00:23:10,428 --> 00:23:12,428 Speaker 1: pivot point. There's a connection there with Todd Downey being 503 00:23:12,468 --> 00:23:15,588 Speaker 1: on the staff with the Jets now, but they're very 504 00:23:15,668 --> 00:23:18,548 Speaker 1: much all in on Aaron Rodgers head point. The owner 505 00:23:18,668 --> 00:23:21,748 Speaker 1: is very much all in on Aaron Rodgers at this point. So, 506 00:23:22,028 --> 00:23:25,548 Speaker 1: I mean, could that happen hypothetically? Sure? Aaron Rodgers is 507 00:23:25,588 --> 00:23:27,588 Speaker 1: only counting thirty two million dollars or so on the 508 00:23:27,628 --> 00:23:30,028 Speaker 1: Packers cellary cap right now. It's a number they'd budgeted 509 00:23:30,108 --> 00:23:32,188 Speaker 1: for because there was a time in this offseason where 510 00:23:32,188 --> 00:23:34,308 Speaker 1: they thought, hey, he might come back. We want him 511 00:23:34,348 --> 00:23:36,868 Speaker 1: back as long as he's fully bought in that. Obviously, 512 00:23:37,108 --> 00:23:40,108 Speaker 1: Rodgers made certain decisions on his end. I want to 513 00:23:40,148 --> 00:23:43,308 Speaker 1: go this other direction, you know. Obviously, if this were 514 00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:45,588 Speaker 1: if they'd worked out the trade prior to giving Rodgers 515 00:23:45,668 --> 00:23:47,868 Speaker 1: permission to speak to the Jets, this is all a 516 00:23:47,908 --> 00:23:50,628 Speaker 1: lot simpler. My understanding was they had those talks, they 517 00:23:50,668 --> 00:23:53,028 Speaker 1: couldn't agree to it. You're on a timeline here. You 518 00:23:53,108 --> 00:23:55,388 Speaker 1: can't just keep pushing the initial conversation back, So you 519 00:23:55,468 --> 00:23:57,588 Speaker 1: need answers, and so they said, Okay, you can talk 520 00:23:57,588 --> 00:23:59,508 Speaker 1: to him and then we're gonna work out the trade conversation. 521 00:23:59,828 --> 00:24:03,468 Speaker 1: They're not there yet. I don't see a much of 522 00:24:03,508 --> 00:24:06,828 Speaker 1: a scenario where the Jets pivot off it until you 523 00:24:06,908 --> 00:24:09,628 Speaker 1: absolutely have to. Now, could that happen at the end 524 00:24:09,668 --> 00:24:12,468 Speaker 1: of July? Could that happen into August? It depends in part, 525 00:24:12,628 --> 00:24:15,348 Speaker 1: does somebody else shake loose? Is there some other opportunity 526 00:24:15,708 --> 00:24:18,708 Speaker 1: that arises here? But very much they want Aaron Rodgers 527 00:24:18,748 --> 00:24:21,588 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback of the Jets. Aaron Rodgers wants 528 00:24:21,628 --> 00:24:24,068 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback of the Jets. There's a pretty 529 00:24:24,108 --> 00:24:25,748 Speaker 1: big thing that still needs to take place, and I 530 00:24:25,788 --> 00:24:29,028 Speaker 1: appreciate Aaron narrowing this down. For us. It's all about 531 00:24:29,068 --> 00:24:31,108 Speaker 1: the trade. That's what it's been about for several weeks now, 532 00:24:31,348 --> 00:24:33,068 Speaker 1: and we'll see if they can brdge that cap. Let's 533 00:24:33,068 --> 00:24:35,148 Speaker 1: flip it from the Jets though, back to the Packers. 534 00:24:35,428 --> 00:24:38,828 Speaker 1: As your point is that they're one of the major 535 00:24:38,988 --> 00:24:40,908 Speaker 1: stoppages in the clock is the draft, and that is 536 00:24:40,948 --> 00:24:43,108 Speaker 1: if they want compensation for this years draft. But the 537 00:24:43,108 --> 00:24:45,028 Speaker 1: Packers aren't a bad team. It's not like they are 538 00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:47,468 Speaker 1: a dire need of like more picks, more picks for 539 00:24:47,508 --> 00:24:49,428 Speaker 1: this years draft. This years draft is highly skilled, But 540 00:24:49,828 --> 00:24:52,308 Speaker 1: what about the sliding scale trade of like what we 541 00:24:52,388 --> 00:24:55,548 Speaker 1: saw with Stafford, which is the Lions. Stafford went to 542 00:24:55,588 --> 00:24:58,668 Speaker 1: the Rams, but then the Rams weren't good and the 543 00:24:58,788 --> 00:25:01,068 Speaker 1: Lions got better and better picks as the year went on. 544 00:25:01,428 --> 00:25:03,148 Speaker 1: Is there a world where the packers are like, you 545 00:25:03,188 --> 00:25:05,228 Speaker 1: know what, we don't need picks this year. We'd rather 546 00:25:05,388 --> 00:25:07,268 Speaker 1: make a deal for next year. And if you guys 547 00:25:07,308 --> 00:25:09,628 Speaker 1: are good, if the Jets get to a place, or 548 00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:13,508 Speaker 1: you're terrible, our pick slides like, how do how do 549 00:25:13,588 --> 00:25:16,028 Speaker 1: those picks? How do those draft? The way that the 550 00:25:16,068 --> 00:25:19,508 Speaker 1: way that NFL teams generally look at picks is if 551 00:25:19,548 --> 00:25:21,668 Speaker 1: you get a pick a year later, it's like downgrading 552 00:25:21,668 --> 00:25:24,708 Speaker 1: it around. A first round pick next year is like 553 00:25:24,748 --> 00:25:27,348 Speaker 1: a second round pick this year. Now, there's an argument 554 00:25:27,348 --> 00:25:28,908 Speaker 1: to be made because of the quarterbacks at the top 555 00:25:28,988 --> 00:25:31,148 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four draft, and we won't name names, 556 00:25:31,188 --> 00:25:33,388 Speaker 1: but I think everybody watches college football knows who they are. 557 00:25:33,868 --> 00:25:35,988 Speaker 1: You could argue that twenty twenty four draft picks are 558 00:25:35,988 --> 00:25:38,548 Speaker 1: actually more valuable right now because if you're a team 559 00:25:38,548 --> 00:25:39,868 Speaker 1: that's going to try to trade up and get a 560 00:25:39,988 --> 00:25:44,548 Speaker 1: quarterback in next year's draft. Amassing that capital at this 561 00:25:44,748 --> 00:25:47,548 Speaker 1: time is beneficial to you. Or conversely, if you're the 562 00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:49,388 Speaker 1: Packers and you got Jordan Love and you think he's 563 00:25:49,388 --> 00:25:51,868 Speaker 1: your long term answer, having those picks that somebody might 564 00:25:51,948 --> 00:25:54,788 Speaker 1: want to trade up for might give you more collateral. 565 00:25:54,948 --> 00:25:56,668 Speaker 1: But this is very much a Packers team that thinks 566 00:25:56,708 --> 00:26:00,868 Speaker 1: that they can win. Yeah, with this roster. They've got weapons, 567 00:26:01,108 --> 00:26:03,508 Speaker 1: albeit young ones, Guys like Christian Watson, who we saw 568 00:26:03,628 --> 00:26:05,908 Speaker 1: have an amazing second half of the season actually finally 569 00:26:05,948 --> 00:26:09,028 Speaker 1: overcame the injuries. They've got some players on defense. There's 570 00:26:09,028 --> 00:26:10,828 Speaker 1: a long way that they have to go. But this 571 00:26:10,988 --> 00:26:13,108 Speaker 1: is not a tear it down rebuild thing, and they 572 00:26:13,148 --> 00:26:15,548 Speaker 1: don't want to set up Jordan Love failure. Does that 573 00:26:15,628 --> 00:26:18,468 Speaker 1: connect guy play at all? Jordan Love? Yeah, we have 574 00:26:18,668 --> 00:26:20,228 Speaker 1: no If you're a Green Bay, don't you want to 575 00:26:20,388 --> 00:26:22,708 Speaker 1: get it done. It's like you just says, surround him, 576 00:26:22,788 --> 00:26:24,828 Speaker 1: draft a receiver, maybury in the first round, get as 577 00:26:24,908 --> 00:26:27,428 Speaker 1: much talent around him to give him the best case scenario, 578 00:26:27,548 --> 00:26:30,268 Speaker 1: especially you do with Rogers leaving. But do you do 579 00:26:30,388 --> 00:26:32,388 Speaker 1: that at the expense of getting less than you think 580 00:26:32,628 --> 00:26:35,788 Speaker 1: that the player is worth because if you're willing to say, 581 00:26:35,988 --> 00:26:38,108 Speaker 1: we don't care about the twenty twenty three draft picks, 582 00:26:38,348 --> 00:26:39,868 Speaker 1: but when we would get past the draft, now your 583 00:26:39,908 --> 00:26:42,788 Speaker 1: leverage actually goes up in terms of the Jets have 584 00:26:42,908 --> 00:26:45,028 Speaker 1: to make the deal. And they're on the timeline here, 585 00:26:45,268 --> 00:26:47,348 Speaker 1: so yes, to get twenty twenty three draft picks. The 586 00:26:47,428 --> 00:26:50,228 Speaker 1: pressure point four the Packers is before the NFL Draft. 587 00:26:50,428 --> 00:26:53,388 Speaker 1: If it doesn't get done before then, then you're you're 588 00:26:53,428 --> 00:26:55,188 Speaker 1: into crazy town here where there's a lot of different 589 00:26:55,188 --> 00:26:57,308 Speaker 1: things that could happen. I mean, go back when Brett 590 00:26:57,388 --> 00:27:01,468 Speaker 1: Favell Brett fave divorced from the Packers in two thousand 591 00:27:01,468 --> 00:27:03,028 Speaker 1: and eight. I was on the beat at the Green 592 00:27:03,068 --> 00:27:05,788 Speaker 1: Bay Press Gazette. Okay, I'm sitting on a lawn chair 593 00:27:06,068 --> 00:27:10,308 Speaker 1: outside the loading docks, staring in waiting for Farv to 594 00:27:10,348 --> 00:27:12,308 Speaker 1: come out after meeting all day with Mike McCarthy and 595 00:27:12,348 --> 00:27:14,468 Speaker 1: Ted Thompson during camp. And this is a time that 596 00:27:14,588 --> 00:27:17,828 Speaker 1: the fans are booing Aaron Rodgers on the practice. It's 597 00:27:17,828 --> 00:27:20,428 Speaker 1: all going on. Farve takes a helicopter in during the 598 00:27:20,468 --> 00:27:23,028 Speaker 1: family night scrimmage in like a lightning storm. We're all 599 00:27:23,068 --> 00:27:25,668 Speaker 1: wonderings the helicopter gonna get hit by lightning and Farve's 600 00:27:25,708 --> 00:27:27,748 Speaker 1: going to be dead. There was a bizarre scene he 601 00:27:27,788 --> 00:27:29,788 Speaker 1: had been in an armadillo ranch in Mississippi. I'm not 602 00:27:29,828 --> 00:27:31,348 Speaker 1: making that up. That really was. And this had been 603 00:27:31,508 --> 00:27:33,788 Speaker 1: months of this where he was doing interviews on grenav 604 00:27:33,828 --> 00:27:37,908 Speaker 1: An Sustran on Fox News shows grenav An Sustran, where 605 00:27:37,908 --> 00:27:40,028 Speaker 1: it was just Farv talking a lot of bus cook 606 00:27:40,188 --> 00:27:42,628 Speaker 1: bus cooking, and his name was everywhere, and Ted Thompson, 607 00:27:42,668 --> 00:27:45,388 Speaker 1: who was an always reticent type of a GM did 608 00:27:45,548 --> 00:27:47,988 Speaker 1: very little public facing, actually set up a series of 609 00:27:48,028 --> 00:27:50,508 Speaker 1: one on one interviews in June because Farv was saying 610 00:27:50,548 --> 00:27:52,588 Speaker 1: so much and the packers weren't defending themselves. Got to 611 00:27:52,668 --> 00:27:54,948 Speaker 1: the point they needed to lay out the packers need 612 00:27:55,028 --> 00:27:56,668 Speaker 1: to lay out their timeline. So I was one of 613 00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:59,468 Speaker 1: the reporters selected to go and sit down with Ted 614 00:28:00,068 --> 00:28:03,468 Speaker 1: one on one on like a hot June morning and 615 00:28:03,588 --> 00:28:05,908 Speaker 1: it still was two months away from resolution five. Had 616 00:28:05,988 --> 00:28:09,188 Speaker 1: to show up and the packers were going, They're being asked, 617 00:28:09,468 --> 00:28:11,228 Speaker 1: is he going to practice? Is Farve going to be 618 00:28:11,268 --> 00:28:12,468 Speaker 1: on the field, And they had to be like, well, 619 00:28:12,508 --> 00:28:16,388 Speaker 1: we're working through it. One of the big differences in 620 00:28:16,508 --> 00:28:20,348 Speaker 1: that situation was. The Packers approached that like a normal trade. 621 00:28:20,828 --> 00:28:24,188 Speaker 1: They talked to multiple different teams. It actually came down 622 00:28:24,228 --> 00:28:27,148 Speaker 1: to the Bucks or the Jets. At that time. Farv 623 00:28:27,228 --> 00:28:28,908 Speaker 1: wanted to go to the Bucks because they were playing 624 00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:30,428 Speaker 1: the Packers, I want to say, in like week four, 625 00:28:30,628 --> 00:28:31,908 Speaker 1: and he wanted to play, and he wanted to be 626 00:28:31,988 --> 00:28:33,668 Speaker 1: in the conference and be able to play his old team. 627 00:28:33,908 --> 00:28:37,308 Speaker 1: Ted Thompson didn't want far in the conference, so ultimately 628 00:28:37,348 --> 00:28:39,268 Speaker 1: they agreed with the Jets. Far of then had to 629 00:28:39,348 --> 00:28:41,868 Speaker 1: accept the trade with the Jets, had long conversations with 630 00:28:42,228 --> 00:28:44,348 Speaker 1: none of the Woody Johnson, who of course was just 631 00:28:44,428 --> 00:28:47,148 Speaker 1: on a plane out to California see Aaron Rodgers. They 632 00:28:47,188 --> 00:28:49,868 Speaker 1: sold him on, hey, we got some land outside of 633 00:28:50,588 --> 00:28:52,988 Speaker 1: New York where you can go hunt on your off days. 634 00:28:53,028 --> 00:28:55,308 Speaker 1: They sold Farv on this whole thing. This was the 635 00:28:55,348 --> 00:28:58,868 Speaker 1: trade compensation. Okay, it was far in the future seventh 636 00:28:59,348 --> 00:29:02,348 Speaker 1: for a third round pick, which if you're Aaron Rodgers, 637 00:29:02,388 --> 00:29:04,988 Speaker 1: you're sitting there and saying, I was there, I remember 638 00:29:05,068 --> 00:29:07,508 Speaker 1: what happened with Brett. Why are you trying to get 639 00:29:07,588 --> 00:29:11,268 Speaker 1: more than that? For me? Rogers is actually older now 640 00:29:11,788 --> 00:29:14,748 Speaker 1: than Farv was then, which is somebody who's covered that 641 00:29:14,988 --> 00:29:17,908 Speaker 1: entire span in the NFL makes me feel extraordinarily old. 642 00:29:18,628 --> 00:29:21,108 Speaker 1: But if you're Rodgers, you don't want the Jets given 643 00:29:21,188 --> 00:29:23,748 Speaker 1: up a whole bunch of picks too that you could 644 00:29:23,868 --> 00:29:25,788 Speaker 1: use to build up the team right now when you're 645 00:29:25,828 --> 00:29:27,788 Speaker 1: maybe on a one year plan with the Jets. I 646 00:29:27,948 --> 00:29:30,548 Speaker 1: want the maximum value. So you got a lot of 647 00:29:30,988 --> 00:29:32,988 Speaker 1: Packers are asking for some Jets don't want to give. 648 00:29:33,108 --> 00:29:35,468 Speaker 1: This is the same thing with Lamar. Whatever Lamar's asking for, 649 00:29:35,508 --> 00:29:36,988 Speaker 1: the Ravens don't want to give. And I just look 650 00:29:37,028 --> 00:29:39,588 Speaker 1: at the thirteenth overall pick and the Jets have it, 651 00:29:39,748 --> 00:29:41,988 Speaker 1: and I bet the Packers want it. We're giving you Rogers, 652 00:29:42,068 --> 00:29:43,908 Speaker 1: give us the thirteen. And if I had to pick 653 00:29:43,988 --> 00:29:45,548 Speaker 1: one sticking point in this, I bet they don't want 654 00:29:45,588 --> 00:29:47,148 Speaker 1: to in them and they they're saying give it to us. 655 00:29:47,148 --> 00:29:49,868 Speaker 1: It's Rodgers. They're they're asking for something that they won't give. 656 00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:51,668 Speaker 1: And well, even if you get a one next year. 657 00:29:51,948 --> 00:29:54,708 Speaker 1: To bring up that point again, one of the odds 658 00:29:54,748 --> 00:29:56,788 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers in that talented young roster, that the 659 00:29:56,868 --> 00:29:59,668 Speaker 1: pick is higher than number thirteen, Odds are it's gonna 660 00:29:59,668 --> 00:30:01,388 Speaker 1: be lower. Odds are it's gonna be a worse pick 661 00:30:01,708 --> 00:30:05,348 Speaker 1: and it's a year away, So I mean it's complicated, 662 00:30:05,508 --> 00:30:07,428 Speaker 1: Like there's not I can't think of a lot of 663 00:30:07,708 --> 00:30:11,828 Speaker 1: situations that are similar. There were some similarities with Russell 664 00:30:11,868 --> 00:30:13,828 Speaker 1: Wilson last year where it was very much only going 665 00:30:13,868 --> 00:30:15,588 Speaker 1: to be one team, but they tried to negotiate and 666 00:30:15,668 --> 00:30:18,348 Speaker 1: that what they thought was a fair way to work 667 00:30:18,388 --> 00:30:20,708 Speaker 1: out the trade. And obviously Russell Wilson didn't play well 668 00:30:20,748 --> 00:30:23,108 Speaker 1: in year one, but you're betting all that draft capital 669 00:30:23,148 --> 00:30:24,508 Speaker 1: on the fact that this guy is going to be 670 00:30:24,588 --> 00:30:27,068 Speaker 1: your player, not just for this year, but for years 671 00:30:27,148 --> 00:30:29,348 Speaker 1: to come, which is also one of the things last year, 672 00:30:29,348 --> 00:30:31,588 Speaker 1: if Rogers had been traded, it would have cost the 673 00:30:31,628 --> 00:30:34,588 Speaker 1: Broncos less to get him that it took to get 674 00:30:34,668 --> 00:30:37,428 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, even though Rogers coming off consecutive MVPs. Why 675 00:30:37,708 --> 00:30:40,468 Speaker 1: because with Aaron Rodgers you're getting the whole picture. Yes, 676 00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:43,268 Speaker 1: the player who's won four NFL MVPs, but also the 677 00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:47,668 Speaker 1: annual Willier won'ty dance and you have no idea what 678 00:30:47,828 --> 00:30:49,628 Speaker 1: the situation is going to be in twenty twenty four, 679 00:30:52,468 --> 00:30:54,468 Speaker 1: We now welcome back to the show, a five time 680 00:30:54,668 --> 00:30:57,828 Speaker 1: NFL Executive of the Year. He won three Super Bowls 681 00:30:57,828 --> 00:30:59,868 Speaker 1: as the vice president player of Personnel with the New 682 00:30:59,948 --> 00:31:04,188 Speaker 1: England Patriots. Now he's our NFL network front office analyst. 683 00:31:04,468 --> 00:31:10,268 Speaker 1: Say hello to Scott Scott. Good morning, everybody, Good morning. 684 00:31:11,828 --> 00:31:14,588 Speaker 1: All right, Scott. We talked about how Lamar Jackson seems 685 00:31:14,628 --> 00:31:16,308 Speaker 1: to be allowing the rest of the league to set 686 00:31:16,428 --> 00:31:19,548 Speaker 1: the market for a twenty six year old former league MVP. 687 00:31:19,828 --> 00:31:25,028 Speaker 1: How do you see this situation plan out, Tom? I 688 00:31:25,068 --> 00:31:26,828 Speaker 1: think he's going to be a Raven. I really do. 689 00:31:27,148 --> 00:31:28,628 Speaker 1: I know that that last year I thought it was 690 00:31:28,668 --> 00:31:30,388 Speaker 1: going to get done in training camp because I had 691 00:31:30,468 --> 00:31:32,868 Speaker 1: talked to both sides a little bit, not that anyone 692 00:31:32,988 --> 00:31:35,348 Speaker 1: said anything directly, it just sounded like it was in 693 00:31:35,428 --> 00:31:37,948 Speaker 1: a good place. I still think he's going to be 694 00:31:37,988 --> 00:31:41,148 Speaker 1: a Raven because the bottom line is this, the Ravens 695 00:31:41,308 --> 00:31:44,388 Speaker 1: need him. You don't have a quarterback of that stature, 696 00:31:44,468 --> 00:31:46,628 Speaker 1: of that ability and let him out the door. But 697 00:31:46,788 --> 00:31:49,028 Speaker 1: on the flip side, I think that what Lamar has 698 00:31:49,028 --> 00:31:52,268 Speaker 1: been doing here is trying to maximize whatever the value 699 00:31:52,468 --> 00:31:54,868 Speaker 1: is and whatever the cash is that he's going to get, because, 700 00:31:54,908 --> 00:31:57,668 Speaker 1: let's face it, each time he says no, each time 701 00:31:57,788 --> 00:32:00,708 Speaker 1: he waits, the price only goes up, and he knows 702 00:32:00,748 --> 00:32:03,588 Speaker 1: that however, this is starting to get to that point 703 00:32:03,668 --> 00:32:05,828 Speaker 1: where it may get a little bit dangerous and he'll 704 00:32:05,908 --> 00:32:07,948 Speaker 1: have to take a deal, I believe at some point 705 00:32:07,948 --> 00:32:10,148 Speaker 1: in time. So to me, I think it's been sparked 706 00:32:10,188 --> 00:32:13,428 Speaker 1: by Lamar because the market certainly hasn't headed backwards for him. 707 00:32:13,868 --> 00:32:15,948 Speaker 1: But to me, I think this needs to get done 708 00:32:15,988 --> 00:32:18,028 Speaker 1: because at some point in time, as nice as they've 709 00:32:18,068 --> 00:32:20,588 Speaker 1: all played in the sandbox, this may take on a 710 00:32:20,668 --> 00:32:23,948 Speaker 1: different life if things start to get too uncomfortable for folks. 711 00:32:25,148 --> 00:32:26,788 Speaker 1: There's gonna be in books written about that one. I 712 00:32:26,828 --> 00:32:28,588 Speaker 1: can't wait to read them. Meanwhile, it's got Pro days 713 00:32:28,588 --> 00:32:31,108 Speaker 1: are coming. We love them, we need them. And yet 714 00:32:31,188 --> 00:32:33,868 Speaker 1: maybe Joe sports fan would say, we got game day. 715 00:32:34,028 --> 00:32:35,868 Speaker 1: Just pull out the game day. Why do you need 716 00:32:35,908 --> 00:32:37,188 Speaker 1: to go to a pro day? It tell us why 717 00:32:37,188 --> 00:32:39,348 Speaker 1: they're so important and so crucial to this whole process. 718 00:32:41,028 --> 00:32:43,188 Speaker 1: Kyle No, I love this question because I think that 719 00:32:43,268 --> 00:32:45,668 Speaker 1: they're very important. I think that the pro days are important, 720 00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:49,148 Speaker 1: and I think individual private workouts are important. And the 721 00:32:49,268 --> 00:32:51,628 Speaker 1: reasons they are is, yes, we have the tape, and yes, 722 00:32:52,188 --> 00:32:54,108 Speaker 1: the primary thing that you want to look at is 723 00:32:54,188 --> 00:32:56,748 Speaker 1: how the player perform, how he plays on tape. But 724 00:32:56,828 --> 00:32:58,628 Speaker 1: when you're building a team, you want to know what 725 00:32:58,748 --> 00:33:00,908 Speaker 1: you're bringing to your team. When you get to these 726 00:33:00,988 --> 00:33:03,788 Speaker 1: pro days, you have an opportunity to spend time with 727 00:33:03,948 --> 00:33:06,588 Speaker 1: the individ dual workouts, to see a lot of different things, 728 00:33:06,628 --> 00:33:08,788 Speaker 1: to spend time with them, to see how much they 729 00:33:08,868 --> 00:33:11,628 Speaker 1: pay attention, to see how much they've prepared. Are they 730 00:33:11,748 --> 00:33:14,428 Speaker 1: taking this part of the process seriously? Are they the 731 00:33:14,508 --> 00:33:16,708 Speaker 1: kind of persons going to fit into your culture. One 732 00:33:16,708 --> 00:33:18,828 Speaker 1: of the other things I always love to watch was 733 00:33:18,948 --> 00:33:22,188 Speaker 1: seeing how many teammates turned out for the players work out, 734 00:33:22,268 --> 00:33:24,748 Speaker 1: how many teammates support them, because again, in the end 735 00:33:24,748 --> 00:33:26,548 Speaker 1: of the day, you're building a team and it is 736 00:33:26,588 --> 00:33:28,948 Speaker 1: this a guy that's well liked by underclassman? Is he 737 00:33:29,068 --> 00:33:33,068 Speaker 1: well respected by underclassman. There's a lot of little detail things, 738 00:33:33,148 --> 00:33:36,068 Speaker 1: and to me, the draft is all about the details 739 00:33:36,108 --> 00:33:39,388 Speaker 1: and paying attention to everything, and that encompasses a whole 740 00:33:39,468 --> 00:33:43,788 Speaker 1: lot of things. Kyle Sky looking at the big picture, 741 00:33:43,908 --> 00:33:45,428 Speaker 1: that's how you go and get your guy and you 742 00:33:45,508 --> 00:33:46,908 Speaker 1: find the best one that's going to work for you. 743 00:33:46,908 --> 00:33:49,868 Speaker 1: You've been on our network all week long during a 744 00:33:49,948 --> 00:33:52,388 Speaker 1: free agency frenzy. It's been great to watch, and you've 745 00:33:52,428 --> 00:33:54,588 Speaker 1: had your eye on the whole league. Who do you 746 00:33:54,748 --> 00:33:58,068 Speaker 1: believe has really improved their state of the nation the 747 00:33:58,228 --> 00:34:02,548 Speaker 1: most in free agency? Jamie. I love the word that 748 00:34:02,628 --> 00:34:05,388 Speaker 1: you use because I'm going to talk about improved and 749 00:34:05,508 --> 00:34:07,348 Speaker 1: the team that I was most impressed with coming out 750 00:34:07,348 --> 00:34:09,148 Speaker 1: of the gate that I'm still most impressed with in 751 00:34:09,268 --> 00:34:12,188 Speaker 1: terms of improving is the Chicago Bears. But I think 752 00:34:12,228 --> 00:34:15,388 Speaker 1: Bears fans are getting excited, and they should be, but 753 00:34:15,468 --> 00:34:18,148 Speaker 1: they also need to manage their expectations because I don't 754 00:34:18,148 --> 00:34:20,308 Speaker 1: think the eighty five Bears are going to be rolling 755 00:34:20,348 --> 00:34:22,388 Speaker 1: out there next year, but this is going to be 756 00:34:22,428 --> 00:34:25,588 Speaker 1: an improved team in a division that I think is 757 00:34:25,668 --> 00:34:28,708 Speaker 1: really starting to change, because I'm not sure what direction 758 00:34:28,748 --> 00:34:31,388 Speaker 1: the Packers are headed. Yes, I believe the Lions are 759 00:34:31,388 --> 00:34:34,388 Speaker 1: ascending and I'm just not sure what the Minnesota Vikings are. 760 00:34:34,628 --> 00:34:36,908 Speaker 1: But as I watched what Ryan Poles is doing here 761 00:34:36,948 --> 00:34:39,228 Speaker 1: and the way that he's doing it, I love it 762 00:34:39,308 --> 00:34:42,988 Speaker 1: because he's planning for the future, but he's also taking 763 00:34:43,108 --> 00:34:45,508 Speaker 1: care of the now. They have improved their football team. 764 00:34:45,748 --> 00:34:48,868 Speaker 1: They've brought in Tremaine Edmonds and t J. Edwards who 765 00:34:49,068 --> 00:34:52,188 Speaker 1: play to the style and the way that their head coach, 766 00:34:52,228 --> 00:34:54,948 Speaker 1: Mattiebriel plus wants to play. The other thing he's doing 767 00:34:55,108 --> 00:34:58,028 Speaker 1: is he's doing contracts that are not going to cost 768 00:34:58,148 --> 00:35:00,948 Speaker 1: them cap or put them in cap peril in the future. 769 00:35:01,068 --> 00:35:02,788 Speaker 1: So I think he's doing a great job of the 770 00:35:02,988 --> 00:35:07,108 Speaker 1: now and the future while also collecting draft picks because 771 00:35:07,228 --> 00:35:09,988 Speaker 1: once his quarterback Justin Fields, who they believe is the guy, 772 00:35:10,628 --> 00:35:13,428 Speaker 1: becomes a player that needs that next contract, they've got 773 00:35:13,468 --> 00:35:15,828 Speaker 1: a lot of draft picks to keep their salary cap 774 00:35:16,308 --> 00:35:20,388 Speaker 1: in check. Smart move by Poles. Yeah, we've all had 775 00:35:20,468 --> 00:35:22,628 Speaker 1: a ton of fun watching the Bears work, starting with 776 00:35:22,748 --> 00:35:24,988 Speaker 1: them trading out of that number one spot. And there's 777 00:35:24,988 --> 00:35:27,748 Speaker 1: another team in the NFC that we've been watching, and 778 00:35:27,868 --> 00:35:31,588 Speaker 1: that's the NFC champion Eagles. They've lost several key pieces 779 00:35:31,628 --> 00:35:33,828 Speaker 1: on defense. They've been able to bring some guys back 780 00:35:34,108 --> 00:35:36,628 Speaker 1: as well. But Scott tell us about the challenges for 781 00:35:36,748 --> 00:35:38,788 Speaker 1: a front office after a team makes it to the 782 00:35:38,868 --> 00:35:43,788 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, just trying to keep that entire team together. Jason, 783 00:35:43,868 --> 00:35:46,108 Speaker 1: as you know, it's so difficult, it really is, But 784 00:35:46,508 --> 00:35:48,708 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where everyone gets rewarded when 785 00:35:48,748 --> 00:35:51,948 Speaker 1: you have success success as a team. It's because of 786 00:35:52,028 --> 00:35:55,348 Speaker 1: the players, and the players deserve opportunities, and the bottom 787 00:35:55,388 --> 00:35:58,548 Speaker 1: line becomes, at some point in time, you can't keep 788 00:35:58,588 --> 00:36:00,588 Speaker 1: them all, so some of those players have to go. 789 00:36:00,988 --> 00:36:03,308 Speaker 1: And really it's one of the most heartbreaking things that 790 00:36:03,468 --> 00:36:05,708 Speaker 1: happens when you have people that you're a part of 791 00:36:05,788 --> 00:36:08,708 Speaker 1: success with and then you have to part ways. But 792 00:36:08,868 --> 00:36:11,388 Speaker 1: what's interesting is not just the Eagles. I want to 793 00:36:11,428 --> 00:36:14,148 Speaker 1: mention the Kansas City Chiefs here to me, who are 794 00:36:14,388 --> 00:36:18,428 Speaker 1: very They're fascinating organization right now. The Kansas City Chiefs 795 00:36:19,188 --> 00:36:22,028 Speaker 1: have had success just like the Eagles have had success, 796 00:36:22,388 --> 00:36:25,148 Speaker 1: but the Chiefs success has been even greater. But what's 797 00:36:25,148 --> 00:36:27,348 Speaker 1: happening in Kansas City is they've now become what I 798 00:36:27,508 --> 00:36:30,468 Speaker 1: believe to be a destination different but similar to what 799 00:36:30,628 --> 00:36:33,948 Speaker 1: we were early in our run with the New England Patriots. 800 00:36:33,988 --> 00:36:36,308 Speaker 1: And what happens is you get a lot of players 801 00:36:36,388 --> 00:36:39,308 Speaker 1: who see a future Hall of Fame coach, a Hall 802 00:36:39,348 --> 00:36:42,508 Speaker 1: of Fame, future Hall of Fame quarterback, and guys are 803 00:36:42,548 --> 00:36:45,548 Speaker 1: sitting there, Hey, I either want a championship or if 804 00:36:45,628 --> 00:36:47,548 Speaker 1: I get with them, I'm going to look a little 805 00:36:47,548 --> 00:36:50,028 Speaker 1: bit shinier. Maybe I can get a better deal, and 806 00:36:50,148 --> 00:36:53,068 Speaker 1: we're watching some players look at the Kansas City Chiefs 807 00:36:53,428 --> 00:36:56,188 Speaker 1: where maybe they're not able to retain good players because 808 00:36:56,228 --> 00:36:59,228 Speaker 1: they're having success too, but there's other players that want 809 00:36:59,228 --> 00:37:02,028 Speaker 1: to come out and maybe get themselves either a championship 810 00:37:02,468 --> 00:37:05,588 Speaker 1: or their next contract. Kansas City has become a destination 811 00:37:06,028 --> 00:37:08,308 Speaker 1: and it's going to be interesting to see when the 812 00:37:08,428 --> 00:37:12,188 Speaker 1: Eagles can also do that. When teams believe in everything 813 00:37:12,268 --> 00:37:13,708 Speaker 1: that they've got going for themselves,