WEBVTT - Beyond The Classroom

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<v Speaker 1>If you really value what your children learn, you will

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<v Speaker 1>continue teaching them after school.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a whole fact because when you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>curriculum nowadays, now that you're awake, your eyes are open

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<v Speaker 2>to certain things. You're just like, damn, how long are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to continue these lives?

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<v Speaker 3>Dead Ass just saying wow.

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<v Speaker 1>It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight

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<v Speaker 1>from the heart. Since then, we've gone on to become

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<v Speaker 1>Webby Award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It

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<v Speaker 2>was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable, be.

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<v Speaker 4>Wraw or but most apportly be us.

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<v Speaker 2>But as we know, life keeps evolving and so do we.

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<v Speaker 2>And through it all, one thing has never changed.

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<v Speaker 4>This is.

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<v Speaker 5>Because we got a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Story time. I'm going to take y'all back to October

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine. We didn't even have any children yet. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we only had god children. And one of our godsons

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<v Speaker 1>was doing a story on Christopher Columbus and we were there,

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<v Speaker 1>you remember this, and he was like, Uncle Devo, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know about Christopher Columbus? Because he was learning in school.

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<v Speaker 1>It was elementary school. I said, yes, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>about Christopher Columbus? He said yes, and he told me

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<v Speaker 1>the story about the Pilgrims and how they shared food

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<v Speaker 1>the Indians and.

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<v Speaker 3>The Indians and all of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, you know what, Nick, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>else Christopher Columbus did to the Indians. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>what I said, he marked them? And you remember, Christina

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<v Speaker 1>was like Devo and I was just like, what he

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<v Speaker 1>merked them?

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<v Speaker 3>He Christopher Columbus was not a nice guy that came.

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<v Speaker 1>Over here to share food in that that knowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge with the natives here in religion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what he came to do. And he was

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<v Speaker 3>like he was like for real.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, let's sit down and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, karaoke time. Yes, yes, this song came

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<v Speaker 2>to mind when I thought about like the kids and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. And dev I was like, he's never

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<v Speaker 2>heard this song before. And I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have never heard this song before, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>with Tevin Campbell, Quincy Jones. It was like a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of kids singing. No one has ever seen a video

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<v Speaker 2>called Tomorrow. You know what're talking about? Man, you do Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's crazy. Oh yeah, you are a musician. That

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<v Speaker 2>is true. But it goes like it goes like this

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow will bring a better you, a better me. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that wall. You know, well, we could be better.

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<v Speaker 2>Get up, get out, get into it. I forget all

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<v Speaker 2>the words to it.

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<v Speaker 5>It was very much like a chorus thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and we have you now with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the we have everything. Make sure you get me me

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<v Speaker 1>with the shower.

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<v Speaker 2>Cap the podcast me not say what's up?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's up? Come say sorry to the podcast. Family, come.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing stuff like we need I know, so y'all see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens on ellis of a raptor. This is really

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<v Speaker 1>a family environment because maybe gonna come down in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>You're really working the chicken salad you want to do

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<v Speaker 5>with the shower ca but that goes to show ma

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<v Speaker 5>me takes care of you.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna get my chicken salad. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was my song. You better get up,

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<v Speaker 2>get out, get into it to be strong.

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<v Speaker 5>If we try, we will.

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<v Speaker 3>They made yes that choir.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, absolutely, it was a great song.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a great song. Kudos to you.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a nice falsetto sounded just like the song talking

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<v Speaker 6>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, man, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I love a false settle. Honey, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 5>what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, hey, you know false You don't know, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know the song.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a song called for settle is a false actor.

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<v Speaker 2>That's in the settle, like.

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<v Speaker 5>A false there you so it's a false actor.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you. I'll be hitting it's a false settles.

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<v Speaker 5>Think about it, all right, y'all, let's take a quick back.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll be back with op or no stick around. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>we're back. Paddles up everyone, what you got for us today?

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<v Speaker 2>Trips?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>I keep running across this kind of ridiculous story.

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<v Speaker 3>The algorithm.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the timeline that a professional corn hole player who

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<v Speaker 7>is also a quadruple a quadruple amputee, has been charged

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<v Speaker 7>with murder in a Maryland in Maryland following a fatal

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<v Speaker 7>shooting during an argument inside a vehicles.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I've said.

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<v Speaker 7>He has no arms, no leg this is real, but

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<v Speaker 7>somehow he also played cornhole.

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<v Speaker 4>So like you can do a corn.

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<v Speaker 3>Hole because all you got to do is put the

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<v Speaker 3>thing together. And throw it.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so like doing this, like how did he pull

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<v Speaker 7>the trigger and hit somebody?

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<v Speaker 4>Can't he murdered them?

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of are you? They got into?

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<v Speaker 8>What's your aim? Like, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is they do say if someone is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, don't have arms or legs, that their other

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<v Speaker 2>senses and like their sense of like I guess precision

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<v Speaker 2>maybe with other things are like heightened sense.

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<v Speaker 3>The sense of precision. I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I was saying is, Okay, yes you have

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<v Speaker 2>heightened things, but I'm saying similarly to having heightened senses.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe because he didn't have hands and feet, maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>That precision was like that, like it's heightened.

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<v Speaker 4>But how did he pulled the trigger? Kadeen? You think

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<v Speaker 4>he had especially made because I.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't know what the weapon was made Arsenal Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 7>then get this listen how.

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<v Speaker 3>I got no I'm gonna tell you why I got no. Op.

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<v Speaker 3>The world is extremely sensitive, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even know if you can say quadruple

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<v Speaker 1>amputee without offending somebody, So I don't want to offend nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know what I'm gonna do. Nohow.

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<v Speaker 7>But he's alleged murderer, so allegedly because you know what, allegedly,

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<v Speaker 7>but there was two other people in the car.

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<v Speaker 8>This is weird, crazy. You couldn't driving.

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<v Speaker 4>He was already was driving. I'm pretty sure he was driving.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's all wrong.

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<v Speaker 9>You driving, you shoot somebody, and you cannot be two people.

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<v Speaker 4>Two other people were in the car at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>He was driving.

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<v Speaker 4>He was driving and killing some and killing somebody.

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<v Speaker 7>And then after he killed the dude, he told the

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<v Speaker 7>two other people pulled over and told the two other

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<v Speaker 7>passers to help him get the body out of the car,

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<v Speaker 7>and the other two passengers were like, nah, man, this

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<v Speaker 7>is where we draw the line. And they got out

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<v Speaker 7>and called the police, and he kept driving and then

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<v Speaker 7>dumped the body elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 5>He don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to be a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs it's got to be a movie, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know how. I have questions and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to offend people.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got a lot of questions. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how to not offend.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a lot of questions, more questions than opinions.

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<v Speaker 3>Opinions. Yeah, I don't have no opinion. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>know things. I got to see the play of how

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<v Speaker 3>I got to see the gun?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, or maybe the gun. Maybe there's like a special apparatus,

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<v Speaker 5>can attachment.

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<v Speaker 4>He could have had it.

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<v Speaker 7>He could have had that because disabled people do exist,

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<v Speaker 7>that's what they say.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, things are made for disabled people. So maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit him up, Josh, you going to hell.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not going to know.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do. Got a lot of questions because I

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<v Speaker 3>know what they was beefing about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where was the dude in the car for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be driving and be like, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't take this ship no more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and everybody was so like scared of him that

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<v Speaker 2>there was like, yo, he shot home where I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be accomplics like I'm like.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything. They just got out because.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably was shook.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe it was like that scene on pulp fiction when

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<v Speaker 7>this don't sound John Travalta accidentally shot the dude in

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<v Speaker 7>the backseat.

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<v Speaker 4>He just turned around like this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to wake up tomorrow and find out that

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<v Speaker 1>all of this was ai and someone put this on

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<v Speaker 1>threads and now it's a conversation that could I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you there's no way a quadruple amputee while driving shot

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and then got rid of the body without being.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, here's something that we haven't thought of.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe he's a quadruple amputy, but maybe he wears prosthetics, right,

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<v Speaker 7>that could be.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you can have prosthetics, but you can't there's no

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<v Speaker 6>control over the process.

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<v Speaker 2>They have prosthetics now, Yeah, how.

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<v Speaker 6>They're gonna do that if he has no.

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<v Speaker 1>You can het nubs though, don't because the guy I

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<v Speaker 1>saw with the the corn hole had nubs.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't have the hand. I know what you're talking.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the hands that work. Yeah, the brain.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy I saw didn't have the hands.

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<v Speaker 8>He for the special Olympics.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't use prosthetics probably, but for life, for life,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe he does.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just trying to think. If you have how do

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<v Speaker 6>you control the prospect other than just being with the brain.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you have nerves still they have they make it work.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Okay, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen I've seen some new technology where they put

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<v Speaker 1>new prosthetics on like war vets and now the hand

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<v Speaker 1>can move like this and connection.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, I got the video.

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<v Speaker 3>You got video.

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<v Speaker 9>I got a video of him loaded. He loaded the gun,

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<v Speaker 9>loading a gun four times?

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<v Speaker 8>Wow, I'm looking at he is he?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not enough. It's numb with fingers. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>number fingers he got.

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<v Speaker 5>So, like I said, you could take fingerprints and be like,

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<v Speaker 5>is it him?

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely him.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know if his fingers.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 6>Enough to pull the trigger.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, son is nice though, Yeah, he's Jason born with

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<v Speaker 8>no arms.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Josh, I'm not doing this with you.

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<v Speaker 8>He's a murderer.

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<v Speaker 3>Have feelings, and you shouldn't offend murder.

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<v Speaker 8>Can we cut this?

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't know that. I didn't see in the

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<v Speaker 3>video now.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that that was possible.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know it was possible either.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm I've just been shocked and I needed to

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<v Speaker 7>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 6>But seeing this now it makes sense. Yeah, this makes sense.

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<v Speaker 6>When he is nice, he busting shots, he's going too.

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<v Speaker 3>So then then you my thing is talking. Nobody to

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<v Speaker 3>call you to stop him?

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<v Speaker 8>Bro?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I know it's scared. Yeah, he nice the cornhole too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and apparently shooting.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, your marks.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucked up right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jesus Christ something every day?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, another thing I saw on dreds Is.

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<v Speaker 7>A man was asking on threads for adult women who

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<v Speaker 7>had their fathers in their lives from very young, how

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<v Speaker 7>did your father punish you?

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<v Speaker 4>Because he's wondering.

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<v Speaker 7>He's a big guy, he's six seven and he has

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<v Speaker 7>a daughter and he's like, I don't want to put

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<v Speaker 7>my hands on her.

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<v Speaker 4>But my dad didn't. I didn't get punished. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>he put I was on punishment like twice in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to lead to a bigger problem. Watch

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<v Speaker 1>because what you just said is what I saw this.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad didn't punish my sister. See how that turns

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<v Speaker 1>out like something my dad in the discipline too.

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<v Speaker 5>My dad didn't punish me, but my mother would lay

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<v Speaker 5>into me.

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<v Speaker 3>So me was no joke.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a differring thing that happens again.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, okay, now we're speaking about two parent household because

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<v Speaker 2>were spoken about this in a previous episode. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you have, for example, the dad in the house and

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<v Speaker 2>the mom, if the dad doesn't want to be that

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<v Speaker 2>physical presence that's intimidating and the daughter potentially can fair,

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<v Speaker 2>then you defer to the mom.

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<v Speaker 6>Did that affect how you take criticism from men and

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<v Speaker 6>women I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I just took criticism in general not in the best

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<v Speaker 2>way because I wasn't used to it, particularly from my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad is you know, you know, it's easy going,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, hearing it from the man when yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're right, Matt. When when I not think

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<v Speaker 2>about it, when time came for Devo to give me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, his feelings or critiquese some things that I did,

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<v Speaker 2>I took offense to it. Very early on. I got

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<v Speaker 2>offended because I'm like, you know, yeah, no one really

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<v Speaker 2>held me accountable in that department, and for me, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I don't have any daughters, But I did

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<v Speaker 1>tell okay this that I think it's important that dad's

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<v Speaker 1>discipline their daughters, but discipline them with love, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to physically assault your daughter to discipline them, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't got to put hands on them.

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<v Speaker 1>That also doesn't mean that you just let them do

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<v Speaker 1>everything and leave it up to the mind, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 8>Like, I don't agree with that spirit a rod and

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<v Speaker 8>spoil the child.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, how do you work with uh toy because you

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<v Speaker 2>have a daughter, yeah, the only child?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, she don't get no beings, man, anybody anybody

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<v Speaker 9>touching Tori. She's feeling without touching her. Punishments withholding things,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, groundings, stuff like that, I mean, really affects

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<v Speaker 9>her her performance when she does something wrong. And then

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<v Speaker 9>in conversations it's really talking about like what you're supposed

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<v Speaker 9>to do, what you're not supposed to do, and holding

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<v Speaker 9>her accountable for her actions.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm going to ask you. Do you hold

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<v Speaker 2>her accountable?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you don't.

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<v Speaker 9>If you don't hold anybody accountable, nothing change, just not

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<v Speaker 9>doing the same thing, especially with the child.

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<v Speaker 8>She's so impressionable like you.

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<v Speaker 9>For us, we just have to keep talking to her,

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<v Speaker 9>keep telling her over and over and over, and you realize,

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<v Speaker 9>like after a while, you see the fruits of your labor,

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<v Speaker 9>like small things change to right to where she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 9>now you're doing it, or she'll correct you, and she'll

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<v Speaker 9>she'll notice the things that you're that you're doing that

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<v Speaker 9>yeah wrong. So it's you know, hitting her or anything

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<v Speaker 9>like that is a no no for me personally.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't want to hit her.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's funny I realized as a parent because

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of reflected to my mom saying the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like how many times do I have to say.

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<v Speaker 5>This over and over?

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<v Speaker 2>I say the same things over and over again, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's just parenthood, Like these kids are never

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<v Speaker 2>going to get it on the first go round, the second,

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<v Speaker 2>the third, or the fourth. It's just the continuous conversation

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where it becomes muscle memory and then

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<v Speaker 2>the norm.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that it's important though, when we raise

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<v Speaker 1>our daughters and our sons, because Kadeena and I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen this with both of our families.

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<v Speaker 3>When a little girl falls, the way people.

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<v Speaker 1>Respond is very different than when the little boy falls,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times the same way this young

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<v Speaker 1>man asks question, how do I raise or discipline my daughter?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of men don't know how to discipline their

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<v Speaker 1>daughter without being physically abusive, because it's easy when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a son to hit him right, Like a little

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<v Speaker 1>girl falls.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing you hear me said, oh who trip you?

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<v Speaker 3>Who pushed you?

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like that whatever happened, it wasn't your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever happened, Let me fix whatever happened. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of young women who are raised like that grow up

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<v Speaker 1>believing that everything that happens to them is never their fault.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm saying the same thing, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's important for men to realize that if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to raise the.

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<v Speaker 1>Type of woman the same way we tell women, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to raise the type of man that

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<v Speaker 1>you hate, you got to raise the type of young

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<v Speaker 1>lady that you don't want to grow up and look

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<v Speaker 1>at her and say I hate the way she is.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't just let her do anything, and it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to be with force, like a lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>is just accountability conversations. You cannot do that now, you know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna cry because you can't do something that's a you.

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<v Speaker 1>Problems we are, you know, Like I really believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned that with my track girls. I had eight

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<v Speaker 1>track girls that I trained for three years at midwould

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<v Speaker 1>love those girls. One of them was my cousin Alicia.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to my cousin Alicia. But all of those

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<v Speaker 1>young ladies were raised with extreme discipline from their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of them came from single parent homes. Remember Max, Max,

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<v Speaker 1>don't play no games. But all of these young women

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<v Speaker 1>were raised yes, sir, no, sir, Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 3>No, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>And they weren't physically assaulted, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they were just taught discipline. They used sports a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and Josh talk about that when you have a daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to get your daughter in sports, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put her in track, Let her be challenged, let her

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<v Speaker 1>see how hard it is to do things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and let her learn what teamwork means, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I would do if I had a daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I'd do is put her in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, looking back as a woman now thinking about me

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<v Speaker 2>as a child, that I think both men and women

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<v Speaker 2>need to be held accountable for, or boys and girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Is accountability. That's like a person thing. It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>man or a woman thing, a boy or a girl thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everybody needs to be accountable for their actions. And

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<v Speaker 2>as a girl growing up, I can see how things

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<v Speaker 2>can be off put onto other people where you don't

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<v Speaker 2>assume responsibility because you feel like all these things have

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<v Speaker 2>happened around me and not to me, so I'm not responsible.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I realized that I had to take accountability

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<v Speaker 2>for certain things in my life, that was a rude

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<v Speaker 2>awakening for me being in a relationship with you, or

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<v Speaker 2>just like looking at myself in the workforce, or like

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to accomplish things in life. It's like, girl, stop

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<v Speaker 2>blaming everybody else for the things that are not happening

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<v Speaker 2>in your life.

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<v Speaker 5>Chances are as you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you said that, though, because also it's not

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<v Speaker 3>that little girl's fault. You know who's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>It is that she's like that society, all the people

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<v Speaker 1>around who just tell you it's okay to get away

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<v Speaker 1>with things. And now when she's an adult, you say

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know how to take accountability. Well, the people

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for teaching her the accountability didn't teach it to her,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So in a lot of ways, we have to look

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<v Speaker 3>at ourselves that as a society and say we just

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<v Speaker 3>have to do a better job. You don't got to

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<v Speaker 3>physically assault that young lady.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can hold her accountable and if her feelings

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<v Speaker 1>are hurt, oh well.

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<v Speaker 9>That's literally the definition of uh. You speare that rod

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<v Speaker 9>of correction and correcting them in the moment about what

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<v Speaker 9>they do. You're going to spoil them eventually.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>The rod doesn't necessarily mean an actual rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we always talk about this also in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>People take the Bible literally right and they say spoil

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<v Speaker 1>a rod. That mean you're supposed to hit your kids.

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<v Speaker 9>It's the rod of correction collections context in general.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't even think it's literal. I think that justke

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<v Speaker 8>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>They just they just try to see something and say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what it is. But Na, the rod of correction.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that better that you made that clear.

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<v Speaker 1>The right of correction is not actually a physical rod

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<v Speaker 1>that you're hitting your kids with.

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<v Speaker 7>So right, So now we're talking about educating our kids

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<v Speaker 7>beyond the classroom. Yes, and I know when we were

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<v Speaker 7>growing up the education did come from a beating everyone

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<v Speaker 7>and then.

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<v Speaker 3>As absolutely, but what are you.

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<v Speaker 7>What are y'all doing to educate your kids and what

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<v Speaker 7>kind of things are you educating them about? Because y'all

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<v Speaker 7>have four boys that are all like empathetic, they're all disciplined,

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<v Speaker 7>they're very active, respectful, they're AI.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to know that the Ellis boys are

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<v Speaker 4>not real.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer your phone, bro, what's with the parents today? Just

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<v Speaker 2>like completely.

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<v Speaker 8>Your kids are Claude Gemini.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this publicly if people knew how extreme

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<v Speaker 1>Kadeen and I were with our kids all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>they probably would think that we were nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>I correct everything in real time.

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<v Speaker 2>Not.

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<v Speaker 1>Intentional, not not extreme, but even the intentionality.

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<v Speaker 3>Can be considered extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, when when I do things with Jackson and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even athleticism. It's a perfect example. He was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a report, which is why I'm glad you bought

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<v Speaker 1>this topic. You're doing a report about western expansion in

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<v Speaker 1>sixth grade. So he comes to me and he's like, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>checking my report.

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<v Speaker 3>About Western expansion. So I'm going through the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Report, and they talked about how the Asians helped with

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<v Speaker 1>the railroads. They talked about how white people expanded west

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<v Speaker 1>and they gave them land and they started to cultivate

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<v Speaker 1>the land. And I was reading everything and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have anything in your report about your history

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<v Speaker 1>and ancestors. And he said, well, the only thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the textbook was a sentenus. It says they were black cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that only so that he shows me the textbook.

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<v Speaker 1>There's literally no mention of any indigenous black people or

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<v Speaker 1>enslaved black people helping in Western expansion. And that textbook

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<v Speaker 1>it just said and there were black cowboys. So in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, rather than say okay, well put the sentence

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<v Speaker 1>in there, we went on a two hour history lesson

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<v Speaker 1>on everything in black history, from reconstruction to the ending

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<v Speaker 1>of slavery.

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<v Speaker 3>The black clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of people will probably be like, Okay, that was intense,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was also a very extra But for me

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<v Speaker 1>as a parent, I'm like, no, this is your history.

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<v Speaker 1>For in fact, doing this history is how I found

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<v Speaker 1>out that my ancestors are some of the very first

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<v Speaker 1>black indigenous people from this land. Like I found that

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<v Speaker 1>out the Perrys from South Carolina, Orangeburg, South Carolina have

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<v Speaker 1>owned land on this continent forever and still do. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no mention of indigenous black people in America, which is

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<v Speaker 1>crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>The lead you to believe that we all came from

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<v Speaker 2>some portion of Africa, right it was dispersed.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is how crazy it gets. Kadeena and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to do a twenty three and meters for this podcast, actually,

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and we did the twenty three meter and it comes

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<v Speaker 1>back that I'm eighty seven percent Nigerian, had a little

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<v Speaker 1>Irish in there, zero percent native to America, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know is a false, because I know my family, my

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<v Speaker 1>mi lineage.

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<v Speaker 3>I can go back to speak to my grandparents and

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 3>they showed.

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<v Speaker 1>Me pictures and like, well, this was your great great

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>grandmother de La May Perry, and she's indigenous to this land.

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:11.719
<v Speaker 3>So and I said to my family, well, how come

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<v Speaker 3>it says I'm zero percent?

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<v Speaker 1>They all say we did the same thing, and it

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<v Speaker 1>said we're zero percent, which means not only do you

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.400
<v Speaker 1>have to teach them, because it's not being taught, they're

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 1>lying purposefully to us. So it's important that all of

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>us understand who we come from, how we got here,

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.919
<v Speaker 1>and what those boats actually mean. So when you ask me,

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<v Speaker 1>like one of my teaching my boys, the first thing

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm teaching them is their lineage. Understand who you come

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<v Speaker 1>from and how you got here, because once you understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can start getting into the other things.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Chiro just did a project on Niagara Falls. They need

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<v Speaker 2>to do like a trifold, you know, like a big

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a science project. But it was about Niagara

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 2>Falls and he read in the book and one of

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.920
<v Speaker 2>his facts, I think the first fact he put down

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 2>was that some of the first people to discover Niagara

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<v Speaker 2>Fall were Native Americans, and Deval was like, and you

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 2>make sure they know that that was your family, Yes,

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 2>that was your fayeah, Because that's why valbul gets so

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 2>offended when people like, I know you got into an

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.679
<v Speaker 2>argument one time with somebody in college, because you know

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 2>several times, actually we just racist, you know, white boys

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that are just like go back to Africa if you

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 2>don't like it here in America, and the will be like, Nigga,

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 2>I was here first, My people were here, yes first,

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 2>yes first.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's been interesting with the boys and us.

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>As Deval continues to kind of dissect and kind of

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 2>put together his family tree and connect the dots. It's

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>been interesting to see more and more how his eyes

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 2>light up when he's just like, yo, they really have

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 2>been out here trying to erase history, erasing history and

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 2>trying to make it seem like whatever it is to

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 2>support the narrative of the fact that we weren't here

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 2>first is it's insane to see when you know your

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>actual facts.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is important for people to know. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to read this so that it's not coming from

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<v Speaker 1>my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Based on historical records.

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>The photographer known for documenting Native American life in the

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>early twentieth century.

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Often used staged or made up scenes was Edward S.

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Curtis. While Curtis was funded by JP Morgan, not a

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.440
<v Speaker 1>rock child, but JP Morty. He was known for creating

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a romanticized vision of Native Americans, often using his own props, clothing,

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>and staging to remove signs of modern life from his

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>photographer photographs. You know what they found of those old

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Natives that weren't manufactured photos. You know who those old

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>natives were? Black people, same headdressing, same things that they

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>stole from the natives, all of the you know, oh lord,

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>they tried to make fun of those are all just

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>black Americans.

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<v Speaker 9>There's a book that I purchased a while ago called

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 9>they Came Before Columbus, Yes, which talks about black people

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 9>being in America for Columbus even discovered it much, even much,

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 9>even even talking about the slave trade, like we were

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 9>here long before Columbus ever discovered America. So, I mean,

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 9>they're always going to try to erase our history.

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>The paper genocide, the four million people that they said

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>came from Africa here to America, and they said a

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 1>million of them died during reconstruction, during the war. It

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>was just like, there's no transcripts of four million people

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>coming from Africa to America. So where did these four

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>million black people come from? And then when I asked,

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>my family, we own land in South Carolina? Still, where

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>did this land come from? All my grandparents' aunts, great aunts,

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>we've always had this land.

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 3>They come from anybody?

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my midwife, Takia, she ended up leaving Brooklyn and

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 2>when she retired and she moved to South Carolina, and

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 2>she said, we literally have over like I to forget

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>how much, maybe sixty acres of land here in South

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Carolina that we just said, you know, we're going to

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 2>homestead and compound and his her mom both to.

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 5>House or sister build a house.

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, this is just land that we've had

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 2>passed down from generation to generation to generation.

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 1>So the first thing when we talk about what we

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>teach our boys is who they are, so they have

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a sense of awareness.

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>The second thing for me is a dad, and I

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about this before, is emotional stability.

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Growing up, me and my brothers were somewhat of crash outs.

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Like we fought, we fought each other, we fought outside,

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>we thought other people. It was just if you grew

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>up in the nineties in Brooklyn and you were a

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>latch key kid, you had to protect yourself because your

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>parents weren't there.

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Y'all grew up the same way you.

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Grew up in Brooklyn. You know you feel for me.

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>My crash outs came out of fear. It was like,

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm a smaller person compared to these dudes. I'm gonna

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>show them how bad I am before. So someone says

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>something crazy to me, then that means we just gonna

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>get to fighting. And I realized that it was because

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't emotionally mature enough to realize that when people

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>say stuff to you, you think that they see you right,

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>like your insecurities and stuff that, and when they say

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff you don't realize that they're projecting their own insecure

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>So now you're defending your insecurity. I want my boys

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to be mature enough to understand that. Wait a minute,

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna let somebody knock me off of my alignment.

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 1>No one's gonna ever make me crash out. Man a woman,

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing you can ever say to me to get

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>me acting outside of the way I want to act.

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>So for me, outside of knowing who you are.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>My boys have to be emotionally secure every time they

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>leave this house. That's the only way they can survive, right,

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have they come up against a police officer, another

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>man that might be looking to take something from him,

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>a woman that you might need to take something from them,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So for me, it's emotional security, No,

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean, you have a daughter, do you

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>talk to I mean you do talk to her about

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it as.

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 8>Because she emotional as hell, man, so you do it

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 8>a lot.

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 9>Like recently, she had an issue with Princess school where

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 9>they were well she felt they were talking about her

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 9>and it stemmed from like a girl misplacing her pencil

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 9>and then accused my daughter of stealing her pencil. So

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.239
<v Speaker 9>now she's not defending herself and now they're clicking up

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 9>together and they're talking about her.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 2>That's such a great thing to do.

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 9>And my my take on it was is talking her

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 9>through it, like understand like you can be emotional about

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 9>this because it's affecting you, but to understand it's not

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 9>going to stop. You're gonna deal with this at every

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 9>single stage. So it's important to realize now that you

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 9>can't be so attached to people if they turn on

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 9>you now, it brings a reaction out of you, right, Like,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 9>I understand you love them, I understand that they're're friends.

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 9>But there's a time where you're going to be You're

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 9>gonna have emotional attachment to people and they're going to

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 9>turn on you.

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 8>How do you deal with it?

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 9>And it's not a lesson not to be because you're your.

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 8>Own person, right and you don't.

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 9>And we talked about this also, like this is just this,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 9>This is the mark of what a leader is. You're

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 9>not going to follow just because they have feelings about

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 9>you that now you are going to be affected by this,

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 9>and it's going to deeply affect the how you move. Yeah,

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 9>like you have to still be you in that presence

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 9>and feeling like everyone's turned on you. It's going to

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 9>be a thing that it's not just now, Like you

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 9>can't this is going to be your teenager.

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 8>You're in your twenties.

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 9>I say, Yo, you might be in your forties and

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 9>feel like this, But how you deal with this now

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 9>is going to affect how you deal with in the future.

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>You said something really key, Josh when you said, like,

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>this is the sign of a leader, because we've even

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>experienced that with Jackson. I think when you teach your

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>children about emotional security, maturity, how to handle themselves, they

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>tend to get into spaces, which we see even with

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Jackson in the middle school space where his friends may

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 2>be acting out, they may be acting erratic, but because

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>he carries himself with a sense of leadership, we've heard

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 2>from his teachers that when Jackson's in a space, are

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>in a room with his peers and they may be

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>cutting up, he will be the first one to be like, guys, stop,

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like what are you doing? Or if he's with his

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>coach and the kids are like, you know, they're playing around,

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>messing around, he's like, guys focused, like let's hurry up

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and get this over with. So we're trying to also

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>implore them with the ability and the no to say,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I can actually control the environment I'm

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 2>in if I keep myself composedly controlled. And it's to

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>the point now where Jackson even came to us the

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>other day and he said, if I'm in a space

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>that I see, I don't like what's going on, he said,

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 2>I just leave, I just leave. And that's exactly that

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>came out of nowhere, but it was like, yes, that's

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>exactly what we're trying to teach you.

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I am teaching all of my boys to learn how

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to exist in solitude.

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 3>And love themselves. Life can be lonely.

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>When you grow up in the house where you got

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.719
<v Speaker 1>brothers and your dad is always on you and your

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>mom is there, you're not used to being alone.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't want them to grow up this happened to me.

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>And you get to college and it's the first time

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you're in a dorm by yourself and your roommate don't

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>know each other, and he's doing his thing, and you

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>feel alone.

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>It caused me to be depressed.

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Remember in college my first semester, I hated being in school.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 3>I used to go drive back.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>To my parents' house all the time because I just

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>felt comfortable being around people that would reminded me of myself.

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Kay coming to Hatstraw was a huge reason why Hofstraw

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>worked out for me because when she came, I had

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.959
<v Speaker 1>somebody here who reminded me of back home. So what

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to do is I want to teach my

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>boys how to walk in the world alone, because it's

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>going to come times as a man where they're not

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>going to have anybody to rely on. I'm not always

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be here. Their brothers will be in other

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>colleges of the places. I need them to be strong

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and be like, you know what, I got.

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 8>This, that's leadership man.

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 3>So you know, we started this with Kaz writing this book.

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm writing the book raising Kings, and then there's a

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>chapter in there where I talk about being my brother's keeper,

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and I talk about how me and my brother always

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>had each other's back to the point where it was

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>a detriment to both of us where if something didn't

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>happen for my brother, I felt like it was my fault.

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>If something didn't happen or happened to me, my brother

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>thought it was his fault. And we had to learn

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>how to be like yo, dude, do you a young man?

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm talking about now, we had to learn we're

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>having conversations now where it's yo, that's your wife, your kids,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>handle your business, and he telling me like, yo, you

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>handle yours. I don't want my sons to be in

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>their late thirties realizing that right, you know, they don't

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>know how to be alone.

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 3>No, for sure, I want to teach them how to

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 3>and it'll.

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'll alleviate years of that stress or you know

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 2>that the times where maybe you guys weren't communicating effectively

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and it drives a wedge. Yeah, because you feel like

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>in turn, you're responsible for your brother and all the

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>decisions that he made. We've been working on that with

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Kaz because of the closeness and age between Cairo and him,

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and Cairo being father Abraham.

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 5>The second like his dad, Cairo is.

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>He's such a nurturer by nature, you know, So Kaz

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>having him and then Jackson, who's like the leader of

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 2>the pack, we realized how Cads just be floating through.

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Like he don't do floating nothing.

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Cas come from.

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Downstairs, Cairo fixed his tie, me and me putting his jacket.

0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 3>He will walk outside without putting his shoes on.

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>If somebody will say, yo, put your shoes, your backpack?

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh door, where's your backpack?

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, are you going to school?

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 8>Or what?

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 3>Close the door? Cast? Oh? Yeah, It's like dude, right,

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.399
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be nothing, nothing, a fucked up grown man.

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>If we let you go through life like this and

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>then you go to college at eighteen nineteen and you're

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.359
<v Speaker 1>looking for people open your doors and take your back.

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get run over. That's how you become a follower. Yep,

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 2>and you get run over. So now Kas, we don't.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Do sh nothing.

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 8>Yep.

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Personally, I'll be looking at Kas like and even if

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I give them directions, now I'd be like, repeat to

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 2>me what I said, because you'll.

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 5>Be looking at you and I'm like, you here ship

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 5>that I just said? Just id you?

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I said?

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 5>It went literally right over your head.

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>So I'll be like, bro, repeat it and he'd be like,

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, go ahead.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 8>And you're taking away the training wheels.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what that's literally literally, oh god, that's say. Sometimes

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>people may say it's extreme because I'm the dad that

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, you ride the bike and if you fall

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and cut your knee, I'm not coming over there.

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not he fell outside doing something, Dad, my knee,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm bleeding. Do you know where the band aids are?

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Do you know? Why are you coming to me?

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>And I know a lot of people will be like,

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's seven, he needs some No, he need

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to go wipe that cut off and get back on

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that bike.

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 10>If you could bathe you could put a band aid

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 10>on man video game that you scored one hundred and

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 10>sixty eight points against the cliper was last night.

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Just shooting. Don't get that band aid.

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 5>That's when we realized. We realized that ca Cats is

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 5>very much like me.

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>We selective. You know, he's born like a week before me.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of how we operate. We selected, but when

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 2>we locked, and we locked it. When we ain't, we ain't.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 5>And what I'm trying to explain to him now is.

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 2>What I'm trying to explain to him because I understand

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 2>the detriment it was to me growing up. I'm just like, yo,

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be things that you have to do in

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 2>life because it's required of you. You don't have a choice,

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 2>So you might as well get on the side of

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get this done effectively the first time, and

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 2>so I don't do it again.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 3>What's the motto? The elis mono. We may have several,

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 3>we have several We may never do what we always

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 3>want to do, but we.

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 5>Will always do what we have to do.

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 3>That's something I tell them.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 2>All time, especially as men.

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Remember when Jack again, there's something, there's something we will

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>never do what we always want to do, but we

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>will always do what we have to do. Like you

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>will never in your life get a chance to always

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 1>do what you want to do. That's just accept that

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you will never be always able to do what you

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>want to do. But those things you have to do,

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 1>that is the standing. You can't drop that and say

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I don't care the things you

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>have to do.

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 3>You have to the stuff you want. If you can't,

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 3>oh well, and it's not fair. I tell them, this

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 3>is not fair life.

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you can, you can cry all you want,

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>but now I watched Jackson bro Jackson fourteen years old.

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 1>I remember when Jackson was eleven and fell off that bike.

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>He came up, his knees was scuffed up. He came upstairs,

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>was riding down the hill. He had just learned to

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>ride the bike in La and he was riding down

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>the hill, fell boom, scuffed up. He came up odds

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>was a little red. I said, what happens? I fell

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>off the bike. One of the neighbors walked him up.

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, what are you done riding? He was like yeah,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I said, I still see kids outside and he was

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>like I said.

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Finished ride of your bike, you're gonna fall and come

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 3>up here like a punk. Go finish.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Didn't see Jackson for another two hours. He went back

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 1>and started riding, forgot and kept riding. And the only

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 1>reason why I did it is I didn't want him

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 1>to be so afraid after he fell off that bike that.

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 3>He never wants to go out there. And I wanted

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 3>him to see that.

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>As much as you think you're embarrassed about falling, nobody

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>down their.

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 6>Cares or probably even so.

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 3>And the minute he got down and he was like, yeah,

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.760
<v Speaker 3>he's right, the whole world sid millions.

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 2>And I got again.

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 5>And I got on the saddle again. I was for

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 5>my children. You did to prove it.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 3>That's why you're my dog.

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 8>But that's so so part of that generational gap. Samn,

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 8>you won't leave my.

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 5>Hament I was reflecting.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I was, I was.

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 5>He was running back a wars cause.

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 8>That's also a generational gap. Man.

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 9>We grew up in an age where you fell off

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 9>your bike, man, you just went ahead and you got

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 9>back on it.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 8>You didn't care because.

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 6>There's nothing to go inside and do anyway, right, So

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 6>you have to read a book at that point if

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 6>you made a scene out of it.

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Because that was me.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 6>I rode my bike around the block. I wasn't supposed

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 6>to end up flipping over a gate.

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 6>He was like, what are you crying for? You did

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 6>something you wasn't supposed to do.

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 9>You get chastised for getting hurt. These kids don't get

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 9>chastise for getting hurt anymore. They get baby.

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 5>That is a fact.

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 9>He was still you know, nineteen nineties values in two

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 9>thousand and.

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 8>Are model kids?

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:57.720
<v Speaker 6>Are you stupid or something?

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 3>No? You you and still the same exact values.

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>One thing I say about our demographic is wrong about

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.720
<v Speaker 1>we say everything is trauma. I will, I will be honest,

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>But I listened to a lot of millennials BRU, and

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that wasn't trauma.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 3>That was good parenting.

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Your parents told you you couldn't go to the party

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't know who the people was there. That's

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 1>not trauma. That's not them creating a box and putting

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>you in the box. That's protecting you from predators. And

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that we have to stop labeling everything that

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>happened to us as trauma. When your parents let you

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>fall and get up on your own, that's not trauma.

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 6>The internet just taking running, yes.

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and everybody being so freaking soft and sensitive now

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to everything so offended. Oh my god, I can't believe

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 2>this happened to me. It's just like then you want

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 2>to complain simultaneously that the next generation ain't built like us.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 3>We wonder why, because it was respon. That's a fact.

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 3>That is a fact.

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 9>It's responsible for us, like over protecting and overprotecting, but

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 9>it's a part of us, like shielding our kids from

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 9>the realities that we also went through, Like I played

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 9>in the park, crack on a crack on the ground,

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 9>like crack vials. Right now, my daughter doesn't have to

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 9>deal with that at all anymore. And she thinks we're

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 9>being overprotective.

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 8>You ain't going on sleepover since no, No, I don't know.

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 8>You're just not doing it.

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 5>You're not doing it.

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 2>The COLDA literally came home last night, was like, Mom,

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to have a sleepover. I said, with who Olivia?

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I said absolutely, yeah, I said sleep I said, we

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 2>don't do sleepovers.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 5>You can tell Olivia.

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 8>Yea, Olivia, that's.

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 5>What I want to know. I said, it could be Olivia,

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.959
<v Speaker 5>it could be Olive. O. We don't do sleepovers, sir.

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 2>So he was like, okay, Mom, no dramatic shoulders and everything,

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 2>And I said, you let Olivia know that we don't

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>do sleepovers in our house and he's like, okay.

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 3>I will say.

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>This is one thing that I noticed about social media.

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>You know who controls social media and the narratives, it's

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>typically fifteen, fifteen, and thirty, right, But those are people

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>who haven't lived enough life yet to understand. So all

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>of these stuff that they're saying is trauma right between

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and thirty. My parents are so best trauma. Once

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>they become older than thirty and they have kids, that's

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>when the tune changes and it's like, wait a minute,

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:09.919
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't trauma because I got kids now, and these

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.760
<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers need to get Like I'm realizing, when you listen

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 1>to certain people, take key to what part of life they'reing.

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Right. That doesn't mean that all older people know everything,

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:21.720
<v Speaker 3>But what I'm.

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Saying is that when you're following a podcast or you're

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>watching somebody live life, ask youself, if this person is

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty six and they talking about parenting and they don't

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>have no kids, do they really know about parenting?

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 8>You know what I'm saying, and a lot of it

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 8>is during my content. Yeah, you can't even take proper

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 8>context from online.

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 5>You can't.

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 8>It's rage bait, yes, entertainment saying it just to say it.

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 2>But then some people have Yeah, they have like a

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 2>leg to stand on. They feel like because they're like, oh,

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>somebody's saying exactly what I say exactly, and it's just like, no,

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>that's probably not healthy.

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>That's another thing I can teach our kids that social

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>media is fake. We tell them the digital space is

0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>not a real place. Like my kids are not allowed

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to have social media. Jackson has a profile. He's not

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 1>allowed to post anything because he's fourteen. He's gonna he's

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>going to high school and he's going to start interacting

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>with college coaches. When I say, it's okay, but I'm

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>not giving my kids open access to the internet.

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Cairo just came to us two days ago. This is

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>everything I'm about to tell you the best way. It's

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>not an exaggeration. I know I like to tell stories

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to make people laugh. This is not an exaggeration. We're

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 1>sitting out front of the lawn.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 5>This is before we're sitting on the law.

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Let me just preface it by saying he came to

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 2>me and he was like, uh, he's sitting and eating

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>a sandwich. He just made a sofa sandwich. And he's

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 2>just like, Mom, if it's okay with you, when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a second, I'd like to speak with you.

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 3>And Dad nine years old said it just like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, not exaggerating.

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<v Speaker 5>Did he get somebody pregnant? Like what's happening?

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 8>I like.

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<v Speaker 2>He did say it was serious, okay, I said sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no problem, mean, Dad, you're outside on the lawn.

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<v Speaker 5>So when whenever you finished saying where and she's like okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're outside, Sakari is there right? Kyrol comes outside?

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<v Speaker 3>That is it okay? If I speak to you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, you won't speak to us in private?

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Or can your aunt stay? I'd like to speak to

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<v Speaker 1>you in private. So now I'm thinking, like, dang, he

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>really got somebody pregnant?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like I'm not like this. This can't be like

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<v Speaker 1>this serious. So then Takari leaves and I guess myself, Jeff,

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.439
<v Speaker 1>he says, I'm turning ten in September, and I would

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:37.959
<v Speaker 1>like to talk to you guys about getting your cell phone, and.

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, the simple fact that asked.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the funny part, because I told him,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want something, don't come to me like an

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<v Speaker 1>invalid can get. You have to come to me and

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<v Speaker 1>present a case as to why you think you deserve it,

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>why you need it, what you're going to do with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling him, and I've been telling him in Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>this for years. This boy came up there with a

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<v Speaker 1>whole case and I was so flabbergasted by the fact

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>that he came with me that I said yeah.

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 3>He started, and then Kay was like, wait, what do

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 3>you need a cell phone for?

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>He went through a bullet list of what he needs

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>his cell for for Sometimes when I leave the house,

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I would like to get in contact with you guys,

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and I can't get in contact with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Kay Boom, you have an iPad? Don't you use the iPad?

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<v Speaker 1>I can, but I can't carry my iPad with me

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes because it doesn't fit in my pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, good one.

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, Okay, how long do you think you

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>should be on the cell phone for? I was like, yo,

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>she's asked some questions he had answers for everyone that.

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<v Speaker 2>Made a whole lot of sense too.

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Cairo is forty three.

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 5>Indeed he's older than me.

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's older. He's definitely over to me. I want

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 4>to ask.

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because we made joke like when he

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>takes when we go to t ball practice with me

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Matt and everything. Cairo is literally like his agent.

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 2>He's just like, I can bea Dakota's agent. By the time,

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, you can go law school and

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>seriously become like a lawyer and you can negotiate contracts

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And I see the wheels going off in his head.

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 5>He was probably like.

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I could after I played in the

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 2>NFL and after I have my acting career, I could

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>be my brother's manager.

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 5>On the side, I could, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But he came to us with such a case that

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like, because I didn't want to think, like

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 2>the president that we're setting here is not when you

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>turn a certain age you get X y Z. It's

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>what's your maturity level, Like, what are the times? What

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.439
<v Speaker 2>do you need this for in a time where we're

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>all cognizant of getting off of our devices, why would

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 2>we give you another device to potentially distract you.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, that was one of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I started with the line of questions also

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 2>to I want to see how he composes himself and

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 2>how he's able to advocate for himself if it's something

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.280
<v Speaker 2>he feels like he needs advocate.

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>So he stood up there, ten toes down, told everything.

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I asked a question.

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<v Speaker 2>Eye contact, no, sir, yes, ma'am.

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 3>No. Man, I was up there just smiling. She looking

0:45:58.719 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 3>at me.

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 6>This interrogation.

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<v Speaker 1>Man's how many hours he is just like going through it.

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yo, he really listens.

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<v Speaker 7>If you get him a cellf home, he's going to

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 7>have god knows who online, he's gonna have Steven Spielberg.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 4>On the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, yeah, probably absolutely.

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of.

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Another conversation that we have with our kids a lot.

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>We talk about faith a lot with our kids. And

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Kirol's at that age at nine, where same exact age

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Jackson started asking me about Black Lives matter. Because everything

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.760
<v Speaker 1>was going on in twenty twenty, It's almost like history

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 1>is repeating itself. Kiro's asking me a lot of race

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>related questions because of everything that's going on in the world.

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So we were talking about that and talking about slavery

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and our ancestors and talking about where we came from.

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>So we started talking about God and I see his

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>eyes automatically just start like welling up a little bit,

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I could see he got the same

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>thing in himself that I had when I was not

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>And the first thing I said was, kiro, you understand

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>that you don't have to fear God right like God

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>is love? And he got light and I was like,

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you walking around thinking that God is

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 1>just going to convict and condemn you for not being perfect.

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>That's not how the world works, bro, That's that's not

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.399
<v Speaker 1>how God works. And I watched them go for real

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>because he goes to a faith based church, you know,

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.720
<v Speaker 1>a Christian based church, so school, a Christian based school.

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 3>So he's hearing reading scriptures, He's put scriptures on his shoes.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Everything he does, he does with the belief that it

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 1>has to be ordained by God in order for it

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:36.439
<v Speaker 1>to work. And I want him to continue to walk

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>in that, but I don't want him to have the

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 1>same fears that I had, you know what I'm saying,

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>in the same misunderstandings and being easily manipulated by people

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:45.720
<v Speaker 1>in any church.

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 3>So we talk to our boys about who God really is.

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Not about what religion may mean to people, because I

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.839
<v Speaker 1>don't give a shit what religion means to people. We

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>talk to them about who God is and who God

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>is to us, and how they need to walk with

0:47:59.080 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 1>God in their life.

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as much as we talk about all the other stuff,

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 3>religion is huge in their house.

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. All Right, I love that. Well, let's take a

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 2>quick break and we'll be back with our listener letter

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:23.280
<v Speaker 2>of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're back, y'all with Kadeen's favorite part of

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 3>this show.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we'll be getting into today.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to read a baby, I go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Kadeen, Devour, Triple Matt, and Josh. First, let me

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>thank y'all for bringing the vibes to our community. It's

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>so important for us to be thinking about and hearing

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the topics that y'all discussed, especially when it comes to relationships.

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I swear my husband is like Deval and I'm very

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>much like Kadeen. I really need to go get y'all's book.

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Do it anyway. I am reaching out because I would

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>like to hear y'alls thoughts perspective on something that you

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.919
<v Speaker 1>will encounter soon. I really respect you'll points of view,

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.439
<v Speaker 1>so I'm curious to know what you all will say.

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>My son is in college and he works part time.

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 1>He's in a fraternity He's a good student and very

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:10.440
<v Speaker 1>good kid. Everyone who knows him always has something positive

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to say. While being all these things, he is still

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a young man who will be trying to teach life

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that We will be trying to teach life lessons to

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 1>including how to get after it, not always asking for money,

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>but finding ways to get it in his own way.

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>He has very generous grandparents, so much so that when

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>he decided that he wanted to live in the fraternity

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 1>house for some reason, he believed that he could and

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.879
<v Speaker 1>he does, and he does because.

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 3>They help him pay for it, but most of his paycheck.

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Goes towards rent. Now, being a mother to this good kid,

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time not.

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Giving him money. I know where she's coming from.

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, And we just went over this with Jackson too.

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>We have explained to him that we will give him

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>money for his knees, but he needs to cover his

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>wants fun. Yes, obviously, we have spoiled him to this point,

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's hard not to when he's a good kid.

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 3>What do I do? And how much? How much is

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 3>too much? I love y'all. Thanks in advance with the advice.

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 2>But dances you tell us because you've literally been thinking

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:09.799
<v Speaker 5>That's always my thing. Jackson is such a good kid.

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 2>He does not ask for anything often, so if he

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 2>does ask for something, we're inclined to be like yeah,

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 2>because why not?

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 3>No whit My.

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<v Speaker 7>Thing is white people don't ask themselves this question when

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 7>their kids need something, They just give it to him.

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 7>My friend, I swear my friend had a credit card

0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 7>was all her parents' credit card that they paid the

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.360
<v Speaker 7>bill for until she got married.

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm pretty sure that that friend has horrible

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>spending habits.

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 3>I know wealthy white people. You know how healthy white

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 3>people work.

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:45.359
<v Speaker 1>They teach their kids about finances from young I got

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Jackson a bank account when he was nine. I put

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Jackson on an allowance from the time he was nine.

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I told Jackson, you don't got to ask me for nothing.

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.480
<v Speaker 1>As long as it's in your account, you can pay

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:58.719
<v Speaker 1>for it. So you know what Jackson has now learned

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>how to do, and it's his own check book. He

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.840
<v Speaker 1>gets gifts for his friends, he get gifts for his brothers.

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>He buys his own stuff. He never asked me for anything.

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.919
<v Speaker 6>Jacks me buying fire gifts of people too.

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I see it because he saves money too.

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>The first six months of him having his own bank account,

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 1>this is what happened first six months.

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 3>At the time he was nine.

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 2>We just moved no, ten, ten, just moved here.

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:21.799
<v Speaker 3>Right, he had turned ten.

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>He had got a phone for his birthday, and I

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>opened up his Chase first bank account. I was putting

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars in there every month, And I said,

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>this is not for chores, because you're going to be

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:34.959
<v Speaker 1>a grown man. You're gonna have to make up your bed,

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to cook your food and clean. So

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not paying you to do chores. This is for

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.879
<v Speaker 1>the extra activities you do. You wanted to do tech,

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:46.239
<v Speaker 1>he was doing chess, he was doing debate. I said,

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 1>those are things that you learned that can also turn

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 1>into a paycheck as you get older. So I'm gonna

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.399
<v Speaker 1>give you one hundred dollars every month for you doing

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>things that can also lead to your paycheck ted bat.

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:57.799
<v Speaker 1>He said, don't ask me for nothing, no more tho

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you wan roadblocks, you can get it. First three months

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>kept running out of money because he kept you know

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 3>But then he figured it out.

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:07.879
<v Speaker 1>And then after a while I'm looking at his bank

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>account and I'm like, yo, you ain't buy no more

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 1>rod blocks. He's like nah, because I'm trying to get

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 1>these sneakers in the robot.

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:15.359
<v Speaker 3>And I said, oh, you learned on your own priorities.

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Just by priorities, I need I need to do that.

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And now he gets more money per month because he

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.840
<v Speaker 1>got older, he's taking on more sports. But when I

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.720
<v Speaker 1>watch him with his money, y'all, he and he teaches

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 1>his brothers. We went to Dick Sporting Goods for his cleats.

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>He has to buy his own stuff because I'm telling him,

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I said, hey, if you get an nil deal, you

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:37.280
<v Speaker 1>think I'm going to be supporting your your lifestyle.

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 3>No, if you get an nil dealing, you making six figures.

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>You got to pay for your trainer, you got to

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>pay for your recovery, and it's all going to be

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a tax write off. So he's like bet tea. He

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.920
<v Speaker 1>goes to Dick sporting and goes with Cairo, Dad, can

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I get it? He's like, jack go some yo, you

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 1>got to ask that to open your bank account. Then

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you don't got to ask him for nothing. You can

0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>get it if you can afford it. So I hate

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.880
<v Speaker 1>him over there talking in the corner, and I don't intervene,

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and I.

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Just go, what you want me to get you, Cairo?

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 3>He goes nothing. I'm good. Let me see how you

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:13.279
<v Speaker 3>get out of this. You know what these fools did.

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>They went home and Jackson told Cairo, I'll get you

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want. You just got to give me the

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>money back when you get your birthday money. And they

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>ordered their own stuff online.

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you know what, I'm gonna rock

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 1>with it now about paying off his debt.

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 3>You see what I'm saying, because now he got Cairo

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:32.399
<v Speaker 3>giving him his birthday money.

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Kyro got money from his uh, he got one hundred

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:42.359
<v Speaker 1>dollars from his residuals from being little Zach. First thing

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 1>he goes over to jack it was just like, I'm

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:46.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna get you your money back before my birthday.

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, that's good. Learning about interest.

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 8>What Jackson didn't learn though, is how to shake somebody down.

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 3>I didn't teach him how to be a businessman to

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 3>get interests on that money.

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 5>Yet I just let him it's coming.

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 3>That's next level, yea, because I only told him to

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:04.480
<v Speaker 3>help his brother.

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 5>That's when friends come along and we're like, you're my brow.

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Pay with interest.

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Facts.

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>When it's your friend, you got to get interested because

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell Jackson, that's money out of your account,

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that's money that's not growing, so he should pay you

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:15.959
<v Speaker 1>money back with interest.

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 3>But that's like a concept that's greater. But when TA

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 3>get older, that's.

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 6>Going to be the fact that they even understand this.

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Right now, Cairo, anytime he gets little money, like your

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 2>mom sent them all Valentine's Day cards and I think

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:29.720
<v Speaker 2>he got like twenty dollars in the card. So anytime

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 2>he gets money now, he hands it over to me

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, mom, can you put that in Mustash.

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 2>I know that he has a mental note of how

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 2>much money he's been giving me, so I got to

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 2>remember I come correct because sometimes I'll be like, I

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 2>need a little twenty dollars.

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:44.759
<v Speaker 3>It's not mental. He wrote it down. He writes it

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 3>down there.

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:46.840
<v Speaker 5>He's gonna let me know my make sure that you

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 5>have my twenty.

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Dollars will shake you down absolutely.

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, well, shit, because he knows that Sean

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 2>has the bank accounts for them, so they all get

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:56.720
<v Speaker 2>their money put in their bank accounts, so he's keeping

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 2>a running tab. So I got to make sure I

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 2>want my piece and cues on me because I don't

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the smoke with Cairo.

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Jackson shakes me down. And he's better with numbers than

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I am. Because Yo, he said that you didn't pay

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>me for November in December, I was like, yes, I did,

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>like and I know that I did because it's on

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:15.240
<v Speaker 1>like direct deposit.

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Every month it didn't come out. I didn't know that

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:19.399
<v Speaker 3>it didn't come out.

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 1>But he was like, nah, Dad, I get two fifty

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:22.680
<v Speaker 1>every month and I was supposed to get this and

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you didn't get this. And I'm like, how are you

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 1>over here telling me about numbers. I'm supposed to be

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>telling you. And I paid him his money up front.

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 1>But by the fifth if that money don't come out,

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and the reason it didn't come out sometimes with the bank,

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.760
<v Speaker 1>if the day it is supposed to comes out happens

0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:37.240
<v Speaker 1>on a Sunday and the bank is closed.

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it won't come out until the following weekend.

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 1>So if the fifth comes around and he don't see

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that money in his bank account, he coming right to.

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Me like yo yo. And I told him that you

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 3>have to do that.

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I said, Jackson, if you were working for someone that's

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>not your dad and they don't pay you on time,

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you just gonna keep working. And he was like, I

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 1>guess not. I said, there's no guests, you can't. You

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>are well within your right say hey, I was supposed

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to get paid X amount of dollars. Because we also

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 1>as a paying have to get used.

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:07.279
<v Speaker 3>To doing good business.

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>So start doing good business with your kids, like teach

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.359
<v Speaker 1>them the principles of it. So for me to help

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:15.840
<v Speaker 1>this lady right here, I know he's older, he's in college.

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 3>I would have started early.

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But what you do now is you give him a

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>bank account, and you place that bank account with a

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>limit and say, I'll put the.

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Money in here. It's showing you though, bron, you know

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. That's what I would do.

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 5>That that makes sense. I guess.

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.600
<v Speaker 2>My statement in the beginning is like Jackson rarely asks

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 2>for anything, so if he does, say hey, mom, I

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 2>really would like this or need that. Sometimes I'll be like,

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 2>all right, cool, because maybe once a quarter if that,

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 2>he'll ask for something, because I know he has its

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:46.400
<v Speaker 2>own stash and he'll purchase his own things. The grandparent

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:49.239
<v Speaker 2>component that she spoke about, that's something we struggle with

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 2>as well too, because mom and dad living here in

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the house. I've already said this on previous podcasts that

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 2>that can also be a detriment.

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 5>Detriment as much as it is a help. Yes, so

0:56:57.680 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 5>we've had to.

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Tell my parents time and time again, and sometimes I

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 2>still don't listen. Put the kebash on this, We're not

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:06.920
<v Speaker 2>doing that, We're not eating this anymore, stop buying this

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 2>for the house. And it's like an ongoing conversation. So

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 2>they get their own space that y'all can go to

0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 2>grandma and Grandpa's house to be spoiled for the weekend,

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 2>but then you come back home to the tight ship

0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 2>because ultimately, yeah, that's what reality is. Grandparents are supposed

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 2>to be that little escape, but if they're also impeding

0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the progress of you trying to instill values with money,

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 2>then that's going to be a conversation you have to

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 2>have with the grandparents. Too.

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.440
<v Speaker 5>They mean well, but sometimes it could be to a detriment.

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 9>What's up with grandparents not raising these kids the same

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:37.960
<v Speaker 9>way they raised us.

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 6>That's not their kids.

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.439
<v Speaker 1>So truth yeah, that's number one is it's not their kids.

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 1>But that too is they raised us when they were younger.

0:57:44.840 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 1>As you get older, you realize that I didn't have

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to do all of those things to my kids. So

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>as you get older, you're like, I'm not doing the

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>same thing to my kids. I'm into my grandkids that

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:56.919
<v Speaker 1>did to my kids. I send those things right right.

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 3>It's just they're growing too.

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I got to keep parenting. My mom raised my daughter.

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 9>It's crazy we.

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 5>Do this every conversation with.

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Her and me me bro, I'll just be stepping out because.

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, just because then what's going to happen when

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you raised a coddled ass man? Like you know what

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, I'm looking at the future of what my

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 2>children will be as men, and I know what a

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:24.760
<v Speaker 2>detriment it is to be coddled as a man or

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a woman. It's not even just a gender. It's probably

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the biggest turn off. Like you're raising no boys over here.

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 2>We're not raising no fuck boys. So if we have

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.880
<v Speaker 2>certain rules and regulations that these boys need to follow,

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 2>you can't undo them just because you live here.

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, life ain't fear. Life ain't fear. A coddle

0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:45.960
<v Speaker 1>man is way worse than a coddle woman, because a

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 1>coddled man, a physically big, strong, dominant man who doesn't

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>know how to cook control his emotions, can be violent,

0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and that can be a detriment to everything anybody. You

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 1>can't be a coddle.

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Man, bro.

0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 1>And the truth is your mom and this is your

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 1>mom says that these men, these men, you can't raise

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the same type of men you claim you hate by

0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 1>coddling your grandkids, right, you can't.

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:09.560
<v Speaker 5>That's been the conversation. That's been all right, good.

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Luck to y'all.

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 5>And the fact that you said y'all will be dealing

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 5>with this soon.

0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm in my feelings the fact that I.

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Only have Jack gonna be in college, bro, soon, we

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>got four years left in his house with him.

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 4>He about to get this, about to be fifteen, He's

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 4>about to be fifteen.

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 2>That's like the form I was starting to count down,

0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 2>like that's formal Christmases for more spring breaks.

0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Formre Valentine is flying by.

0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:39.120
<v Speaker 6>Don't worry, cod, it looks just like him.

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Ye insane.

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 4>All right, y'all.

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:42.680
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0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:49.320
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0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, we're talking moments of truth? What you got

0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:56.800
<v Speaker 2>for us today, Babe?

0:59:58.280 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Your kids are your responsibility. People.

1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not the school's responsibility. It's not the church's responsibility.

1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not the coach's responsibility. It's not your parents' responsibility.

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:10.520
<v Speaker 1>It's yours. So if you chose to lay down with

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:15.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody and have kids, enjoy the process of repeating yourself

1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 1>over and over and over again, because it's going to

1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 1>happen even when they're adults.

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Just enjoy and love it. They're yours.

1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I've seen debate recently online with people, I guess in

1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the Gen Z population, even some millennials saying that like,

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I never want to have a child. I don't want

1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 2>to have a child, and that's okay, But if you

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:37.200
<v Speaker 2>do want to have a child, ask yourself why, Like,

1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:39.160
<v Speaker 2>what's the reason for having a child. Do you want

1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:42.400
<v Speaker 2>a legacy. Do you want someone to raise It has

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:44.280
<v Speaker 2>to be more than well, I just want to see

1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 2>what a mini me would look like like. You have

1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:51.040
<v Speaker 2>to literally invest time in your children because they will

1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:53.200
<v Speaker 2>become an exact product of their environment.

1:00:53.520 --> 1:00:56.360
<v Speaker 5>So really assess.

1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Why you want to have children. If you want to

1:00:57.200 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 2>have children, and if you don't, that's cool because you

1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:04.520
<v Speaker 2>will be contributing to a society of boys and girls. Essentially,

1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:06.280
<v Speaker 2>that's my moment truth.

1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:10.200
<v Speaker 6>I got one fact check the facts that they're teaching

1:01:10.200 --> 1:01:12.840
<v Speaker 6>your kids in school. Because of the heart of that,

1:01:12.960 --> 1:01:13.920
<v Speaker 6>she had to hang facts.

1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:17.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the facts learning.

1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:28.000
<v Speaker 7>My moment of truth is now that my dad is dead,

1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:30.520
<v Speaker 7>either Devout or Cairo is gonna have to step on.

1:01:32.200 --> 1:01:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Because I still got some things I need to learn.

1:01:35.200 --> 1:01:39.120
<v Speaker 5>C oh for sure.

1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:39.720
<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna look on the camera and I'm gonna see

1:01:41.800 --> 1:01:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Triple pulling up cars like I got it. Me and

1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:44.280
<v Speaker 2>her got a session.

1:01:44.960 --> 1:01:46.600
<v Speaker 3>You will I know he don't walk out with his

1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:47.360
<v Speaker 3>hands on his hips.

1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:52.000
<v Speaker 11>Yeah yeah, Now we got you in the classic and

1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:57.600
<v Speaker 11>notes by the way, right right behind man, what a

1:01:57.640 --> 1:02:00.600
<v Speaker 11>little personality back to you us.

1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 8>Teaching doesn't end at three p m. It carries over.

1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:09.200
<v Speaker 9>Uh, we're supposed to be constantly teaching these children how

1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:13.000
<v Speaker 9>to be responsible children and ultimately responsible adults.

1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Fact that part my children gonna have to interact with

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:19.240
<v Speaker 2>your kids maybe.

1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:23.400
<v Speaker 8>And sponges man to pick up everything, every single thing.

1:02:24.000 --> 1:02:27.600
<v Speaker 2>And we know about sponges got mad bacteria facts maybe

1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:29.240
<v Speaker 2>smell you have to throw that ship out every month,

1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:32.280
<v Speaker 2>check a sponge.

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<v Speaker 8>And in between. I'm an advocate for boiling your sponge, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Right after Yeah, just throw that ship out.

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<v Speaker 8>Throw it out, you know in a week or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't have the sponge the mad bacteria.

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<v Speaker 6>If you a sponge ful of water and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to ring it out to move my father out,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all smelling. It'd be like, what can you just

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<v Speaker 2>ring ring out the sponge?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, your father be eving messed up sponges.

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