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Speaker 1: Hey, what up. Welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is

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Speaker 1: All Ball. In this edition of All Ball.

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Speaker 2: We're dropping this the day of a game with the

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Speaker 2: opposing coach of the game, Nico Manvet's the new head

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Speaker 2: coach of Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to him. We'll talk to him about his

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Speaker 1: new job.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to him about the new era in which

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Speaker 2: he took this new job and how it all works

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Speaker 2: and what it's all like for him. Quick update on

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Speaker 2: our season obviously right now. We did not I didn't

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Speaker 2: think we played well against Kansas, thought we were overwhelmed

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Speaker 2: by everything. We went to Buffalo and led the game

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Speaker 2: with eight minutes to go and end up ultimately falling

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Speaker 2: to Buffalo. We did a poor job of keeping them

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Speaker 2: off the free throw line, and we did a very

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Speaker 2: good job of running their three point shooter off the line,

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Speaker 2: limiting Sable, who's their best player. He had thirty two

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Speaker 2: you know, the night before we played them. But we

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Speaker 2: were unable to really control their point guards and we

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Speaker 2: struggled at point guard. We returned home, played a n

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Speaker 2: D one team called Rippins from Wisconsin actually on tape.

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Speaker 2: Played pretty well, especially in the second half. First half.

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Speaker 2: I'm still playing probably too many guys and trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out our rotations. Then we went to Saint Thomas.

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Speaker 2: The Tommy's had our number last year and it got

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Speaker 2: worse this year. Mired in the loss was a really

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Speaker 2: tragic loss of one of our players, Don shall Hewlett.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be out probably for the year with

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Speaker 2: a lower leg injury.

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those injuries where.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like Kevin ware type injury with Louisville, you know,

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Speaker 2: like I'm not at liberty to disclose it, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was a lot, and you know, we had gotten

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Speaker 2: off to a start where a big guy had picked

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Speaker 2: up two pat files, we'd missed several early shots, and

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Speaker 2: you know, Don Trell was trending towards becoming a starter.

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Speaker 2: He had started in you know, one of the games

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Speaker 2: and started in one of the exhibition games. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's something that it's it's interesting about

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Speaker 2: this job, how I don't know if anyone's prepared for

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Speaker 2: that one. And obviously there's far more tragic situations. He's

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Speaker 2: going to be barring any anything, you know, post surgery

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Speaker 2: in terms of infection, He's going to be okay.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Man, when you're looking at a kid who is in

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Speaker 2: his final year of college and he thinks he may

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Speaker 2: have played his last basketball game, and all you can

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Speaker 2: do is have the balance of talking him through, Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's really in the year. You know, if you can't

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Speaker 2: play the rest of this year, we'll get you amout

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Speaker 2: of it's gonna be okay. But he's in shock, so

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Speaker 2: he's not taking any of these any of the words

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Speaker 2: of wisdom. And then the team, like you're trying to

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Speaker 2: coach a game, and yet the team, several of the

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Speaker 2: players saw it and yeah, it was rough on them.

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Speaker 1: And then you factor in.

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Speaker 2: They're not playing particularly well against the team that is

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Speaker 2: super patient. That kind of will pick you apart over time.

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Speaker 2: You don't shoot well on offense and you end up

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Speaker 2: not playing well. But that's the challenge, you know. Every

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Speaker 2: different level has a different challenge. Our level of challenges.

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Speaker 2: We have only three non conference home games of the

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Speaker 2: you know, and one of them is Santa Barbara, who's

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Speaker 2: by the time we play might be a top twenty

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Speaker 2: and we're not yet whole yet and I think again,

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Speaker 2: everybody has this challenge. And you see the really interesting

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Speaker 2: ups and downs of college basketball teams right now, and

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Speaker 2: it's just because we're all trying to figure out what

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Speaker 2: we got. And some of the guys appeared better in

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Speaker 2: recruiting than they were in when they are when they

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Speaker 2: have to level up, you know. There's it's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at Dee or Johnson. This is a

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Speaker 2: great example. So deeor Johnson, most of you know, a

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was unbelieved.

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Speaker 2: Last year was a Central Florida and up and down

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Speaker 2: it does take guys time to get comfortable and to

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Speaker 2: and none of them who have played Division one basketball

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Speaker 2: I'm betting on I'm betting on the improvement of guys

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Speaker 2: and they have very good talent. It's just different at

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Speaker 2: I one players that have played at four or five

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Speaker 1: You can get those in the portal.

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Speaker 2: But do they plateau because early in the season they're

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Speaker 1: Does it make sense? Yeah, it makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: So you know, just as you.

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Speaker 2: Watch your own program unfold, you watch ours unfold. You know,

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Speaker 2: I have junior college American point guard. He's struggled in games.

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Speaker 2: You know there's a lot we're throwing at him, and

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Speaker 2: you know, you have to learn how players were coached

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Speaker 2: new is really really challenging. So there's not me making

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Speaker 2: excuses as me just giving you the real real on

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Speaker 2: what I think all of us as coaches are talking through,

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Speaker 2: which is how do we build a team, how do

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Speaker 2: up and really drill, drill, drill. You know, we played Thursday.

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Speaker 2: This is being recorded Saturday morning. The interview with coach

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Speaker 2: Medved was Friday night. We play Saturday, we return home,

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Speaker 2: we have Sunday off, we have Monday off, and then

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Speaker 2: we have Tuesday at a big day of practice. Wednesday

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Speaker 2: three games in four days. It's just not time to

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to sacrifice moments in a game or

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Speaker 2: even games. In the art of developing players. So these

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Speaker 2: like a magical mix, right. You got to space out

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Speaker 2: break down film, you have time to repair, and yet

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Speaker 2: you also have to get the games in.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are already on the schedule, the ones

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Speaker 2: Getting checks for, you don't actually get to pick a

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Speaker 2: lot of those dates. It's just a really interesting process.

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Speaker 2: But for my team, we just got to get better.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're not a group that individually we're going

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Speaker 2: to have, like last year, a guy go for thirty

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Speaker 2: you know, six guys go for twelve. That's the way

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Speaker 2: in which you win. That's the way, and when I

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Speaker 2: I think you win more in life.

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Speaker 1: And that's definitely the way.

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Speaker 2: Based upon our talent and how it's spread out, how

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Speaker 1: You get fifteen here, you get nine here, you get ten.

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Speaker 2: And the other part to it, if you're honest, is

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Speaker 2: bad offense makes you way worse defensively. Good offense makes

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Speaker 2: you way better defensively, Meaning it's not just about do

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Speaker 2: you score, it's are you efficient do you make them guard?

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Speaker 2: And the more efficient you are, the less you turn

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Speaker 2: disadvantageous situations where you're running back two on one they're

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Speaker 2: we're kind of figuring out. Let's get to our interview,

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Speaker 2: shall we. So Nico Medved's the head coach of Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: It's his first team. I feel like they're still kind

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Speaker 2: They have magnificent ball moving and malboom and spacing and

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Speaker 2: lots of people myself that coach, we try and emulate

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Speaker 1: The eyes out of it.

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Speaker 2: But they don't have enough overall shooting to play I

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Speaker 1: But he's he's resurrected, you know Furman Drake.

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Speaker 2: And then at Colorado State, you know, they were down

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Speaker 2: I think Colorado State's pretty well funded now, but during

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Speaker 2: has an ego. We all do, but there's an awshocks

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Speaker 2: who does a really, really good job of kind of

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Speaker 2: staying normal, normal it's hard, I think for if you've

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Speaker 2: ever been around some of the biggest and brightest of

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Speaker 2: And that's because when you're the head coach of a

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Speaker 1: You're kind of treated like a star.

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Speaker 2: The thing about Nico that I enjoy is it don't

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Speaker 2: ever get a sense of smugness, arrogance. And granted, this

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Speaker 2: times it doesn't work to be a quote unquote star.

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Speaker 2: But he is a star coach. It is really You

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Speaker 2: watch their tape and you get it. This is what

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Speaker 1: They're teaching it.

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Speaker 2: So, without further ado, let's get to Nico medved, the

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this was.

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Speaker 2: Cool, right, I'm We're going to play against your team

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Year two for me is you're one for

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Speaker 2: you at Minnesota, but you've done these a lot more, right,

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Speaker 2: Uh Firman, you flip that thing, You got that that

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Speaker 2: going Drake one year, turned that thing around, and obviously

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Speaker 2: what you did in Colorado stay is amazing. How much

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Speaker 2: portal era, and we weren't paying guys back there. You

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Speaker 2: and I weren't paying guys back then. How can you

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Speaker 2: draw upon that when the era and a lot of

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Speaker 4: I think there's a I mean, there's obviously a lot

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Speaker 4: you kind of get comfortable for how you want to play.

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Speaker 4: You've been there, done that, You've been through ups and downs,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I think you just have

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Speaker 4: I what needs all my energy? What can I and

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Speaker 4: I don't need to give one hundred percent to this.

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Speaker 4: You know, we did to a Colorado state that was

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Speaker 5: And so so man if.

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Speaker 4: Every day you're relying on something and man the other night,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just losing is just each ya ich ya,

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Speaker 2: the you? I mean, you were famously a manager. It's

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Speaker 2: been a long kind of your curial path to come

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Speaker 2: You've been successful, you have a track record of success.

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Speaker 2: What's it like to walk back into Williams Arena now

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Speaker 5: It's it's you know, Doug, it's surreal. I think.

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Speaker 4: What's what's interesting? I tell people, you know, when you

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Speaker 4: to the Sweet sixteen. You won on that magical run

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Speaker 4: You just get so into you don't take a lot

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Speaker 4: But I think as time has gone by here, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's it's it's it's pretty cool. It's cool

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Speaker 4: I hadn't seen in decades that I've seen at the games.

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Speaker 4: Obviously having my mom and dad, you know, my mom

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Speaker 5: There's just no price on that. And so that's been

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Speaker 4: And Doug, I drive by the apartment I lived at,

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Speaker 5: So that's that's cool. And a lot's changed.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is this new athlete's village that we

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Speaker 5: The barn, and I think it's the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Actually, hey, here's a question I have for you.

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Speaker 2: Style wized Obviously, you know, I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: you run Princeton because you don't. But your style offense,

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Speaker 2: whether it's five out or have an undersized big Obviously,

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Speaker 1: The nation's leading rebounder.

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Speaker 2: But the Big Ten is a brutally physical conference. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're not physical, but again, and it's more

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Speaker 5: Is different, you know, I'll say a couple of things

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Speaker 4: I mean, it is different, but you pop on the

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Speaker 5: But you know, think back.

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Speaker 4: I've morphed into what I do, John Beeline. I think

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Speaker 5: I mean, your ingredients need to be.

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Speaker 4: Really good, you know, no matter what you're doing, and

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Speaker 4: I think our style can be successful.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, going into the Big Ten this year,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fourteen one place.

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Speaker 2: If you could design a schedule and your old school

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Speaker 5: Now, that's such a hard question.

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Speaker 4: why they they do that. I'd love to see them

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Speaker 4: I'd love to have the opportunity to play those teams

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Speaker 5: I think those are great for the fans.

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Speaker 4: And whatever that other third one is, maybe that changes

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Speaker 4: Why would they do that?

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Speaker 5: Money?

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Speaker 4: You know, TV contracts more games, better matchups. You know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I actually agree with that. Now. I don't

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Speaker 2: To play fewer conference games because we need to get

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Speaker 1: Right, it's like a it's like a mix.

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Speaker 2: Like I fought for fewer conference games, Me and Greg

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Speaker 2: You're gonna draw better at those Big ten games.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to write a check to teams like

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Speaker 5: I could see that changing.

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Speaker 4: And I think as teams that you know, kind it's

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Speaker 5: So I think that could be where we're where we're headed.

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Speaker 4: And it's all about the TV money too, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know that, you know, it's you know, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: That's a tough place to live.

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Speaker 2: You're kind of killing it in that sense in terms

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Speaker 4: I mean all these places like you know whatever, like Greenville,

438
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Speaker 4: South Carolina, placing yourself, retiring Fort Collins, see yourself retired.

439
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Speaker 4: Minneapolis is an incredible place, especially in the summer. I mean,

440
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Speaker 4: I don't know that there's a better city in the

441
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Speaker 4: country than the Twin Cities.

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Speaker 5: In the summer, I mean it's incredible.

443
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Speaker 4: I mean the golf, the lakes, the fishing, I mean

444
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Speaker 4: all the lake places you can go to. The food

445
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Speaker 4: scene's incredible there. What's interesting about Minneapolis too is so

446
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Speaker 4: many of the former players and athletes.

447
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Speaker 5: Live in the cities.

448
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Speaker 4: Whether they're froms they end up wanting to live there

449
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Speaker 4: for the rest of their for the rest of their lives.

450
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Speaker 4: And great pro sports scene. It's a great pro sports town. Yes,

451
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Speaker 4: it gets cold. It gets cold a lot of places too,

452
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Speaker 4: but maybe the cold keeps the keeps the riff raft out.

453
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Speaker 5: But you're you're right.

454
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Speaker 4: I mean where we live right now, where we get

455
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Speaker 4: to work every day, is pretty awesome.

456
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Speaker 2: The other thing about Minnesota is the players in the state.

457
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Speaker 2: Right there's there's players in the state. And if you

458
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Speaker 2: can build a build a fence keep in the state.

459
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Speaker 2: That's always been the challenge. Challenge a little different now

460
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Speaker 2: because some of you want to high school, but some

461
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Speaker 2: of you want when they come back, like go somewhere

462
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Speaker 2: else and then then come on back. What's the challenge

463
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Speaker 2: been like for you in recruiting in the in the

464
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Speaker 2: six months you've been you've been at the job.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so far, I think it's been really good.

466
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think, you know, I probably have an advantage.

467
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Speaker 4: It's my fourth head coaching job, but the third one

468
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Speaker 4: that I had been an assistant at before, so obviously

469
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Speaker 4: I grew up here. So I think I know the

470
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Speaker 4: landscape pretty well as far as the you know, the

471
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Speaker 4: coaches and both the you know AAU high school, maybe

472
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Speaker 4: even some of the agents who are involved, you know,

473
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Speaker 4: in the area. So I think we have a good

474
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Speaker 4: a good feel for that. I think we've hit the

475
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Speaker 4: ground running that way. I think to your point, we

476
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Speaker 4: got to, you know, try to keep the best talent

477
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Speaker 4: here in state. But I think we're all trying to

478
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Speaker 4: navigate right now. How many high school players are we

479
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Speaker 4: going to sign?

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Speaker 1: Every year?

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Speaker 4: You know, I still want to sign high school players.

482
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Speaker 4: I still believe you can retain players. We were able

483
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Speaker 4: to do that at Colora, so you're not going to

484
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Speaker 4: retain all of them. The times are different. I get that,

485
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Speaker 4: but I think as we're all kind of trying to

486
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Speaker 4: see this thing transform here in the next three to

487
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Speaker 4: four years, what is.

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Speaker 5: Kind of that number.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody is recruiting as many high school

490
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Speaker 4: guys as you did before, So what's that going to

491
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Speaker 4: look like? But every year I feel like there's guys

492
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Speaker 4: in the state that we're gonna want to It's just.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I know you got to go and because you

494
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Speaker 2: got to go prep for our game.

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Speaker 1: I know that's that's what it's about.

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Speaker 5: Like you just know what it is to the neet.

497
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Speaker 5: Clifford is in town.

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Speaker 4: The Kings play the Wolves tonight, and Bobby Jackson, who

499
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Speaker 4: I'm really close with, he's you know, he's the assistant

500
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Speaker 4: for the Kings. He actually came by today to see us.

501
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Speaker 4: But I'm going to take my girls and wife to

502
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Speaker 4: go see Meek tonight and assistance and I might have

503
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Speaker 4: gotten one of my buddies to give me courtside seats

504
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Speaker 4: tonight for that. So that's gonna be pretty special. Everytime

505
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Speaker 4: you get a chance to see your guys play in

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Speaker 4: the NBA.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So tomorrow's obviously first coaching experience for me at

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Speaker 2: the Barn. You've you've been, you know, two exhibitions and

510
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Speaker 2: two home games. What's it like coaching when you're on

511
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Speaker 2: that stage and your team's below you.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a different experience. What is that like?

513
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Speaker 1: What are the key things I need to know?

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Speaker 4: I think first of all, you know you've been in there,

515
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Speaker 4: like you'll you'll feel the history right away.

516
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Speaker 5: It just feels different, even to your players.

517
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Speaker 4: You look up and you know you can see Kevin

518
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Speaker 4: McHale and the rafters. You just there's ghosts in the bar,

519
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Speaker 4: and it's truly historic, and you'll you'll feel that.

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Speaker 5: I think being on the stage is weird.

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Speaker 4: It can feel lonely, Doug, I'm not and to lie

522
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: like you're kind of standing up there, and but you know,

523
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Speaker 4: it's it's not as high.

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Speaker 5: As it used to be.

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Speaker 4: It's actually a little bit lower. I can't remember how

526
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Speaker 4: many years ago they lowered it a little bit. So

527
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Speaker 4: you'll be able to still communicate, you know, with your

528
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Speaker 4: your staff and stuff pretty easily.

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Speaker 5: It's just you're kind of out there.

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Speaker 4: You know, you and me will be standing there, maybe

531
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Speaker 4: look at each other a few times or whatever, but

532
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Speaker 4: you're you can be lonely, but the players are going

533
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Speaker 4: to love it. I mean, it's it's such a cool

534
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Speaker 4: environment to play in. Your players feel like they're playing

535
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Speaker 4: on a stage. And it's really kind of hard to duplicate.

536
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Speaker 4: So most of the guys that have come through in

537
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Speaker 4: different years I had taken my teams there, they always

538
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Speaker 4: say it's one of their favorite places to play.

539
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Speaker 5: So I think your guys will really enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you said it's lonely.

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Speaker 2: I know you have Coach Bennett's grandson on your staff,

542
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Speaker 2: and Coach Bennett he's told me that he wasn't talking

543
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Speaker 2: about coaching at the Barn.

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Speaker 1: He just said, you know, this is the loneliest job in.

545
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Speaker 2: America, being a head coach.

546
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so lonely.

547
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Speaker 2: You're like, nobody cares about your problems and you want

548
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Speaker 2: to talk to people them, but there's things you can't

549
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: share and you're just, oh, it's unbelievable.

550
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Speaker 4: Hey, And I mean that man, the friend. We've got

551
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: to know each other. Coaches need each other. Do you

552
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and it's like I'll do And

553
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 4: it's like sometimes there's only only another head coach who's

554
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: in our chair can understand about how we feel or

555
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: you're going through you know certain things. So man, we

556
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Speaker 4: and I love our profession. I've got so many great,

557
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: great friends, you know that way. And and man, I

558
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: may call you sometime or if you ever call me,

559
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Speaker 4: hey that sometimes we need to talk to each other.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

561
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Speaker 2: And if you want to send me some of your players,

562
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Speaker 2: that'd be great to send them down will be the miners.

563
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Speaker 1: We'll sen them, we'll send them back up. My god,

564
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Speaker 1: have you.

565
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Speaker 2: Ever have you given thought or had any discussions about it.

566
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Speaker 2: I've had with a couple of teams about the idea

567
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Speaker 2: of the European model, which is you talk about younger

568
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: players and the loan right where they're technically you're there

569
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Speaker 2: under contract with you, but then you loan them to

570
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Speaker 2: a lower level Division I school and then at the

571
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Speaker 2: end of the year you decide if you want to

572
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Speaker 2: call him up.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's interesting. I've heard that floated. I've heard

574
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Speaker 4: people talking about that. It's not something that I've done yet,

575
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Speaker 4: but at this point this is all changing. I mean,

576
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Speaker 4: I think we're in this I tell people all the time,

577
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Speaker 4: I think we're in this ten year window kind of

578
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Speaker 4: right now. We're right in the middle of it in

579
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Speaker 4: my opinion. You know, it started about four or five

580
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: years ago. We're right in the middle. But we've got

581
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Speaker 4: another four or five years, I think to kind of

582
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Speaker 4: figure out really some clarity on what this is going

583
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Speaker 4: to look like. And I could see this going to

584
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Speaker 4: a model like that, and that could be a situation

585
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: that makes sense for both parties.

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Speaker 1: Yep, it's it's a fascinating fast and world. Enjoy the game.

587
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Enjoy Nick. What a tremendous player he is.

588
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Speaker 5: Holy, it's an even better person.

589
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Speaker 4: So I know my daughters are really excited to see

590
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Speaker 4: him too, and so that'll be great. And Doug eilif,

591
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm looking forward to seeing you

592
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Speaker 4: tomorrow night, but I but I but I am.

593
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Speaker 5: So yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for playing us, Thanks you coming on the pod,

595
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 2: and we'll see tomorrow.

596
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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks guys, I appreciate you.

597
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Speaker 1: Doug.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's it for this edition of All Ball.

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Speaker 2: My thanks to coach Medved. He did, in fact to

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Speaker 2: go to the Timberwles game. He did in fact, take

601
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Speaker 2: a picture with meee Clifford and I would give you

602
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Speaker 2: our game plan and tell you where we are with it.

603
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Speaker 1: But I think I'm gonna do that next.

604
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Speaker 2: Time exactly what we're doing sort of differently with this

605
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: game to try and figure out. Every team is different,

606
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: every program is different, every philosophy is different, and it's

607
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: different within each year that you coach. For us, we

608
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: have to develop, we have to get better. We have

609
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: to win when you get to the Horizon League. So

610
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Speaker 2: it's the balance of competing to win now, but ultimately

611
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Speaker 2: seeing that down the road, who can help you win

612
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Speaker 2: in the Horizon League?

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Speaker 1: Who can help you win at your level?

614
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Speaker 2: What is your defined go to defense and your secondary

615
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Speaker 2: defense going to be?

616
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Speaker 1: What is your defined offense going to be?

617
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Speaker 2: Secondary offense quick hitters that you like, how you're going

618
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Speaker 2: to execute?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to play fast? Are you going to

620
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Speaker 1: play slow?

621
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Speaker 2: We came in with the mindset that we wanted to

622
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Speaker 2: play fast or but not break neck speed.

623
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Speaker 1: But in order to play faster, you have to.

624
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: Rebound and defend and then run or you have to

625
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: try and turn somebody over. We didn't feel like we

626
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 2: have the overall athleticism to get up the lane and

627
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Speaker 2: to turn people over.

628
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Speaker 1: So we got to do.

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Speaker 2: It by getting defenses and being solid, being physical. And

630
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Speaker 2: the challenge of being physical when you're playing mostly road

631
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: games is you're going to accrue a ton of fouls.

632
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Speaker 2: The challenge of being physical when you're playing against higher

633
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: level teams is you can be physical, they just have

634
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Speaker 2: bigger bodies. And the challenge of being physical is understanding

635
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: how to do it with discipline and how to do

636
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: it when you It's hard to practice because one they

637
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: are all friends with each other, and two, it's not

638
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Speaker 2: like we have all the biggest bodies in the world

639
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: to just big body go bang after each other. Some

640
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Speaker 2: of our guys are a little bit slight. So we're

641
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Speaker 2: trying to establish a physical identity. We're trying to establish

642
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: an identity of toughness, and we're trying to figure out

643
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Speaker 2: our pace.

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Speaker 1: So watch the game and tell me what you think.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening.

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