1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports where you good. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Morning, Good morning, good morning. I'm gonna pretend to be 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano for about two and a half minutes or so. Welcoming, 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: welcoming in the ad. Danny d How are you this morning? 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm doing good, Brice, how are you doing today? 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 4: Good? 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: Just Jandy? You know, heading into really busy week of 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: college football and NFL and high school football, I'm sure 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: you guys have been busy. What's kind of going on 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: over there in your world? 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's been a real big shake up. Last 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 5: night in the in the we were going to me 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 5: and Anthony, You're going to discuss the top ten teams 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 5: in the country right now in high school football, and 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 5: it's been a lot of parody this year, which is 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 5: great to see. There's been a lot of teams in 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 5: the top ten facing each other, which is great. You know, 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 5: we always say iron sharpens iron, and a lot of 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 5: big matchups, and there's been a lot. It's been a 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 5: revolving door of who's going to be the number one 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 5: seed in the country when it's all said and done. 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 5: So this week's top ten, we still have Saint John 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 5: Bosco holding down the number one spot in California. 24 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: Really California. 25 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 5: Yes, California has been holding it down. There's been so 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 5: much parody. Perennial top ten team Modern Day actually lost 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 5: last night in a thriller, a defensive thriller, seven to 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 5: six to Santa Margarita out in California. 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say Ranches Margarita. 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 5: Right, Yes, so number fifteen team in the country took 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 5: down the number sixteen in the country. But California currently 32 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 5: has five teams in the top fifteen in. 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: The country, which is astonishing. 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: So I'm so so, I'm obviously new to this kind 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: of world, right, So why do you think or if 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's like a fact of like why California 37 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: is such like a hot spot for athletics, like youth sports, 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: is there a reason you think or it's just you know, 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: West Coast is the best coast or what do you 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: think that is? 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 5: I don't say West Coast is the best coast as 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 5: a as an East Coast person. And however, I think, 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: you know the size of it. I think facilities matter 45 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 5: a lot in in development. I think there's been a 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 5: lot of you know, the high school landscape has changed 47 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 5: a lot, so like kids are moving out to California 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 5: for these opportunities because these high profile schools, they really 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 5: invest resources, elite coaching, time and energy to all these programs, 50 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 5: which really makes it appealing. 51 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 6: Right. 52 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 5: So like out at you know, Modern Day, they have 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: one of the best receivers in the country, Chris Henry Junior. 54 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: He is from Cincinnati, right. 55 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 5: He moved out of Ohio after his sophomore season to 56 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: go to California for the opportunities, right, And it's kind 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: of you know, I think his trajectory would have been similar, 58 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 5: but this definitely put him in, you know, a top 59 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 5: five player in the country and you know he's going 60 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 5: to Ohio State and it maximizes his his nil potential, 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 5: you know, playing on this big stage. 62 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: And do you think. 63 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: Is that all across all sports or does that kind 64 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: of just like focus in basketball, Because when I was 65 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: in high school, I was looking to go to Modern Day, 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: not as like as like an athlete at all, just 67 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: because you know, it was close to my house and YadA, YadA, 68 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: but just thinking about basketball in general, we did have 69 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: I did see like some players were moving from like 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: the Midwest and specifically to go to modern day and 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: I think, you know, to eventually go into like a 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: you know, definitely a higher college program. 73 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's happened over the years. 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 5: More so now like we talk about in this nil era, 75 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 5: because there's so much money involved, right, so you have 76 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 5: to kind of people are trying to leverage themselves and 77 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 5: put themselves on this big stage to really maximize this 78 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 5: dollar amount. 79 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: That they can get when they get to college. 80 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: And like I said, right now, California and the football 81 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: scene has five teams in the top fifteen in the country. 82 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 5: That's you know, you can't deny that, right as an 83 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 5: East Coast guy, and you know, I think Pennsylvania football 84 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 5: is really strong. 85 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: California at football is elite. 86 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 6: Hello, good morning, more good morning. Sorry about that, no worries. 87 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: I know we have some technical issues. So okay, you 88 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: guys have fun. I'm gonna go on the corner over here. 89 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, brit thank you so much. Okay, by Davy, boy, 90 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: what's going on? Because how we doing? 91 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 7: Brother, good buddy, good buddy, trying to get this fucked up? 92 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 7: My little box was acting funny. 93 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 6: So uh, let's get into it. 94 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 7: I want you to talk about that when we talk 95 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 7: about California and how this whole thing's gonna work. 96 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was telling, you know, Brits, it's been 97 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 5: a robbing door. 98 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: The top ten. It's been great. 99 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 5: Like me and you talk about all the time iron 100 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 5: sharpens iron, and we've had, you know, a lot of 101 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 5: top ten, top fifteen, top twenty five programs playing each 102 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 5: other this year, which I love to see, right, I 103 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 5: love to see the big dogs facing off. Right, let's see, 104 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 5: let's see who's gonna be the best, and let's see 105 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 5: who's gonna finish on top of the end. 106 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: And there was a huge upset. 107 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: Well I won't call an upset, but modern day the 108 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 5: number six team lost the number fifteen team last night 109 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 5: seven to six, and Adult lost. So now they have 110 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: two losses on the season, both coming in the state 111 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 5: of California. So it just shows you the depth that 112 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: California currently has and how as it you know, as 113 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 5: high school footballs continue to evolve and change, it's people 114 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 5: are flocking there. Like I was telling Brie, people move 115 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 5: out there right now. They're they're you know, Chris Henry Jr. 116 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 5: We talked about him last week being the top five 117 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 5: player in the country. 118 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: He's from Ohio, Right, he. 119 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 5: Moved out there to really try to put his stamp 120 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: on who he is and grow his profile and an 121 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 5: nil era. 122 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: It's happening more and more. 123 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 7: So answer me questions because I know you would schedule this, 124 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 7: but you talked about a lot of a lot of 125 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 7: these programs now playing each other to playing like a 126 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 7: national schedule. So you got a handful of schools, Like, 127 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 7: how many schools do you figure across the country are 128 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 7: playing this national schedule where you know, you have like 129 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 7: pretty deep travel. I mean, you know, you're you're a 130 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 7: high school and you're getting on planes. 131 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's crazy to think about, but that's kind 132 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 5: of the way it's moving. And a lot of these 133 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: schools are investing in their programs. They see that this 134 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: is a business. This drives enrollment, right, This drives admissions 135 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 5: for a lot of these big schools because people want 136 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 5: to be a part of big programs. 137 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: I've seen it firsthand. So I would say. 138 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 5: Probably thirty to forty programs in the country are really 139 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: playing a national schedule where they're playing multiple teams across 140 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 5: the country. There probably is more that are playing one 141 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 5: big national game, maybe one hundred that are trying to 142 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 5: line up maybe a national game, maybe even two hundred 143 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 5: that are trying to line up that early season national 144 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 5: schedule to really make sure that they're putting themselves on 145 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: the map, really giving their kids, you know, the platform 146 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: to show the off their talents. And you know, really, 147 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I always believe you 148 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 5: want to be best at the end of season, so 149 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 5: you have to prepare yourself with with really strong competition early. 150 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it is interesting that the wave became like that. 151 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 7: And I'll be honest with you. You know, having and 152 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 7: you dealt with ESPN, and you know some of the 153 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 7: cable networks, especially early that are looking to televise these 154 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 7: games like there is you know, if it's good football, 155 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 7: Like it was interesting I was watching this year when 156 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 7: there was like a double headter on and you know, 157 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 7: it's it's like good, it's really excellent football. One of 158 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 7: the things is it's all shocking you're watching they look 159 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 7: like college players. 160 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I mean these kids are just getting bigger, stronger, 161 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 5: and faster. I mean the size and athleticism. You know, 162 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 5: people love to compare the errors and I think the 163 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 5: biggest thing that changes is you know, I think guys 164 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: might have been tougher, but they weren't just athletic, you know, 165 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: they might have been a little more great, you. 166 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: Know that they kind of had to rely on that. 167 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: These kids. 168 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 5: Athleticism and the size and the speed is on match 169 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: today than it's ever been before. And these these guys 170 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 5: look like grown you know, they're grown men out there, 171 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: and they're they're huge and and they're they're fierce man 172 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 5: and it's and it's just today it's just the technology 173 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 5: and the science is all changing and developing, and people 174 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 5: are just really jumping into that and and embracing it 175 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: and you're seeing the results. 176 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's pretty wild. So all right, 177 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 7: what else we got in our top ten? 178 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so going through the top ten right now, we 179 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 5: have Saint John Bosco number one and coach Jason you know, 180 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 5: he's he's uh, you know, we've talked about him a 181 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: few times over at John Bosco, and we'll be interviewing 182 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 5: him in the coming weeks to really dive in to 183 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 5: understand what it takes, uh and maybe give us some 184 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 5: tips and tricks for parents out there they're looking to, 185 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 5: you know, excel in football. And you know, he's been, 186 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 5: They've been a perennial top ten team over the last 187 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 5: fifteen twenty years. So really excited to pick his brain 188 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 5: in the coming weeks. 189 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: Number two in the country. 190 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 7: Too, I mean, you're you know, you're talking about an 191 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 7: elite program. 192 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 5: Oh, they're they're one of I mean when you talk 193 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 5: about high school sports, and you know, like we were 194 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 5: talking about, California has been king recently. But the teams 195 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: that always talk about at the top is you know, 196 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 5: Saint John Bosco the modern days, the IMG's you know, 197 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 5: Bishop Gorman's, the Florida teams, Duncanville down in Texas, they're 198 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 5: the perennial top twenty five teams over the last twenty years. 199 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 5: I would say, But yeah, moving on, we have Saint 200 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 5: Francis out of Baltimore. Man, they're they're they're number two 201 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: right now. Grayson out of Georgia's number three. I amg 202 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 5: out of Florida's number four team Santennia. 203 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 7: Speaking of which, real quick, the IMGs or you these academies, yep, 204 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 7: And it's almost like a European thing because in Europe 205 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 7: you see a lot of these academies with soccer right 206 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 7: like where the kids are going to school, but you're 207 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 7: really going to play soccer. And that's kind of what 208 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 7: I amg is how many of those are popping up 209 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 7: around the country. 210 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we IMG it was one of the 211 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 5: first to do it. They have incredibly strong programs across 212 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 5: all sports, not just football, right, and they they basically 213 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 5: sell themselves as this performance enhancement. 214 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: School, right like they oh yeah, no. 215 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 7: They're baseball, basketball, I mean, they're every sport. 216 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 5: They'relf you know, soccers of the world. And there's a 217 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: pretty penny behind it. But you can see, i mean 218 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 5: a couple of years ago it sold for over a 219 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 5: billion dollars. So it's a business at the end of 220 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 5: the day. But these academies are growing, you know. But 221 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: IMG kind of started it off and saying, hey, this 222 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 5: is the footprint. We're gonna take kids from not only 223 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: in the US, but all over the world, and we're 224 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: going to give them the highest level training. We're going 225 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 5: to give them the highest level development. Now it comes 226 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 5: with the Steve Price tag. 227 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 6: Right. 228 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 5: I'm sure you know how they break I'm not sure 229 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 5: how they all break it down as far as like 230 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 5: aid base stuff and all that that goes. But it's 231 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: a model that's growing because it's shown that there's a 232 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: lot of money behind it and there's a way to 233 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: make a. 234 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: Profit off it. 235 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 5: Like we've talked a lot about this, youth sports industry 236 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: is a ten to twenty billion dollar industry right now. 237 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I got to think that there's going to be 238 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 7: a lot more of those academies popping up. 239 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I mean it's all I think that's 240 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 5: you know, again, with the success of the IMGs of 241 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 5: the world, they're just going to continue to try to 242 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 5: model that blueprint and grow it from there. 243 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 6: All right, So. 244 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 7: Well, for sure of your top ten because then I 245 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 7: really am dying to get into something. I think it's 246 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 7: really important, and one of our listeners actually talked about it. 247 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 7: But let's keep finishing through the top ten. 248 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, Sentinel is number five. They beat Modern Day this 249 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 5: year out there oun California. They're six to one Modern 250 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 5: Day going into last night. We had number six on 251 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 5: our nil top project in il top ten, but they 252 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 5: will have to fall after last night, but we'll talk 253 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: about that more next week. Number seven is Bishop Gorman 254 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: out in Vegas. Number eight we have Sierra Canyon, which 255 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 5: is more of a basketball power, which is known for 256 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 5: you know, out of California, which is known for Lebron 257 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 5: James's kids went there. They've really grown huge school out 258 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: in California. Number nine is Buford out of Georgia, and 259 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 5: number ten is the Matha out of Maryland right now. 260 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: So that's the project in IL top ten that we 261 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: have right now. 262 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: I love it. I love it. 263 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 7: So that's the Matha historically was always a great basketball school. 264 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 5: Huge that's one of the best leagues if you ask 265 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 5: me that, I think that's the best basketball league. 266 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: In the entire country. 267 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 5: The DMV they have pretty much perennial, have top five 268 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 5: to you know six, top probably teams in the top 269 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: fifty in the country. 270 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 6: What is it about, Danny? 271 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 7: What is it about the Catholic schools like the private schools. 272 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 7: Is it just there, it's just easier to navigate if 273 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 7: you're a Catholic school or a private school. 274 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you can be more strategic with your resources. 275 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 5: Right when you're a public school, you have to really 276 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 5: focus on you know, there's a you know, you're getting 277 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: federal money, you're getting state money, so I think it's 278 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: very allocated. So it's difficult for public schools in certain 279 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 5: areas to travel, right, to invest in their facilities or 280 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 5: invest in you know, how they want to go about 281 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 5: their athletic department. 282 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 3: Where the private schools can be a little bit more creative. 283 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 5: Right, there's a door that you can open, and there's 284 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 5: you know, different buckets you can fill to different you 285 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 5: know levels to really maximize that student experience. 286 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: Right, there's not. 287 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 5: As much red tape as far as how you can 288 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: go about things. I think public schools are different. However, 289 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 5: you'll see the Duncanvilles of the War World were down south. 290 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 5: They're building thirty million dollar stadiums for high school right. 291 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 7: So well, in Texas, I mean we you know, we 292 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 7: talk about it a lot. I mean obviously the whole 293 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 7: Friday at lights things, but that's the what that seems 294 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 7: to be the one area it's different. And maybe I 295 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 7: would say, like Georgia, you'll see you'll see a lot 296 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 7: in Georgia. 297 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: Too, Georgia, Texas, California. 298 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 5: The public schools are still have the abilities that they 299 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 5: invest strategically. There are the three states where you see 300 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 5: the public schools really shine. But up and down the 301 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: East Coast, I would say the private school sector is 302 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: where the higher level of competition is athletically and I 303 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: would say overall the country the private school side, is 304 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 5: it probably yeah. 305 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 7: Because because what look at the top ten? How many 306 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 7: are private schools in our top ten? Because Postco and 307 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 7: matter Day are both private. 308 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's probably I would say eighty percent or private, Yeah, 309 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 5: you know, seventy eight private. 310 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: And then the public and light in there. 311 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 312 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 7: And and that's what's that's what's interesting because between IMG 313 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 7: and those academies and then the private schools, I mean, 314 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 7: I guess, I guess you listen, you ran you run 315 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 7: one and you know you come from that world. Are 316 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 7: you allowed to you know? How does it work with 317 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 7: you know, scholarship and tuition and recruitment. 318 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 6: How does that all come to play? 319 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it really depends on the school and their mission right, 320 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: or their state association right, because a lot of state 321 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 5: associations say no recruiting, no merit money, right. So it 322 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 5: depends on the public school of state association or where 323 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: you are. It really varies across the country on other 324 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: rules and regulations. Where we are currently in interter act, 325 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 5: there's a lot of aid base money goes out, so 326 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 5: that's you know, that's a ton of it and there's 327 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 5: also small merit money at all these schools where you 328 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: can decide, hey, we want to invest on the merit side, 329 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 5: which is someone who you know, really changes the program 330 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 5: or really changes you know, the outlook of a school 331 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 5: to really help them, you know, grow the school, or 332 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 5: you know, deserving. 333 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: There could be a deserving case. 334 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 5: So again there's just ways to be a little bit 335 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 5: more strategic with the financial aid and how the merit 336 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 5: money goes. 337 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: But overall, it really depends on where. 338 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 5: You're located and the leagues of your rule, the rules 339 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: of your league in state association. 340 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's so interesting because as NIL grows, you 341 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 7: see them on high school level. So now you know, 342 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 7: at some point when do they start paying kids to 343 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 7: go to high schools? 344 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: Dan, It's already happening, brother, it's already happening. Uh to 345 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 5: what extent, But it's happening. It's slowly creeping in more so, 346 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 5: I've seen it and heard more about it on the 347 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 5: basketball side, not so much the football side. But if 348 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: it's happening in basketball, I'm sure it's happening in football. 349 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 5: But of course these people are getting behind it. There's 350 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 5: big donors that are proud about their school. And NIL 351 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 5: is legal lot of states, even at the high school 352 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 5: level now, so people are getting creative and saying, hey, 353 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 5: we want to win a state championship. Hey, we want 354 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 5: to be a top ten team in the country. All right, 355 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 5: we got to get this kid over here. We need 356 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 5: him to come to our state. We need to take 357 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 5: care of his family, right, And there's always the perception 358 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: that happened a lot before, and my experience it didn't 359 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 5: like backdoor deals in high school with the NIL and 360 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 5: the way it's going is its business and it's legal now. 361 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 5: So it's happening more and more, and I think it's 362 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: going to continue to grow in the high school world, 363 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 5: and that's something drastically changes. But we've seen some strategic 364 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 5: things happen, like the MLB stepping in, like we talked 365 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: about a few weeks ago, putting these rules and regulations 366 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 5: to kind of hone in these sports. I think will 367 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 5: continue to maybe you know, put some restraints on this and. 368 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: Maybe make it a little bit more organized. 369 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 7: All right, Well, coming up, Danny, I'm dying to get 370 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 7: into a subject because I had a listener reach out 371 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 7: to me and wanted us to talk about the idea 372 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 7: and the concept of pressure and how there's way more 373 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 7: pressure on these kids now than there was when I 374 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 7: know I was playing sports right Like, it's completely it's 375 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 7: completely different. It's bigger, there's more at stake, there's a 376 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 7: high pressure and something happened in the MLB playoffs that 377 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 7: is a great teaching point and I want to I 378 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 7: kind of want to get into it with you and 379 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 7: get your idea and talk about the concept of pressure. 380 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 7: There's never been more pressure on kids than today. This 381 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 7: is Project Nil where we dive into all those subjects 382 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 7: when it comes to high school and college sports, youth sports, 383 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 7: and all leading into this crazy. 384 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 6: World that you know we love. 385 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 7: He's Daniel Diburned Dinas, the athletic director of Penn Charter. 386 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 7: I'm Anthony Gargana, one of the fellas. We're right here. 387 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 7: It's Project DANIL on Fox Sports Radio. 388 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 389 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: the nation. 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This is Project Nil. 403 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 7: Danny di Bernadnas, the athletic director from Petrotaa'm Anthony Gargana, 404 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 7: one of the fellas together. This is Project Nil, and hey, 405 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 7: be sure to subscribe to Fox Sports Radio's YouTube channel. 406 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 7: To search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see 407 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 7: all of our videos from all of our shows. And 408 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 7: don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon and comment away. 409 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 7: Let us know, like who's takes you like and who's 410 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 7: you don't. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and subscribe. 411 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 7: All right, Dan, there's a couple of things I want 412 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 7: to get to. But I had an email from one 413 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 7: of our listeners. It was from Bill. He was from 414 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 7: Tennessee and Bill was asking about the concept of pressure 415 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 7: and it is the pressure too much. 416 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 6: On these kids? 417 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 7: He's like, listen, I'm he's his son was was a 418 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 7: TENU baseball player, and he said he's a pretty good player. 419 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 6: And he said, but he takes it to. 420 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 7: Heart, and he's like he's having a tough time with 421 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 7: him crying and like he feels this enormous amount of 422 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 7: pressure and it sounds and it's Bill made it sound 423 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 7: like he's completely hands off and not fostering the pressure situation. 424 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 7: But I know that, you know, these kids taking the 425 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 7: heart without crazy parents, Like you have your crazy parents 426 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 7: and you have everything else, but kids taking the heart 427 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 7: and the pressure is really deep. And in fact, something 428 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 7: happened in the MLB playoffs that I want to talk 429 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 7: about because this was interesting. The other night Dodgers in Phillies. 430 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 7: The game's decided on Ryan Kirkering's error, right, So here 431 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 7: it is. The situation is, you know, it's bases loaded 432 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 7: and there's a like kind of a dribbler back to 433 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 7: the mound. He doesn't feel it cleanly and then he 434 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 7: just panics. Yep, it's he's got plenty of time still 435 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 7: he get the first. In fact, j t Rellamuto is 436 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 7: the catcher is pointing the first base, but he throws home, 437 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 7: throws the ball away and loses the game, and there's 438 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 7: a doctor on Twitter which I saw this, this quote, 439 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 7: and I thought. 440 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 6: It was pretty pretty. It was beautiful. 441 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 7: He goes My juke coach, doctor Ismail Gallo said, My 442 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: juco coach used to say, there is a time to 443 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 7: coach and a time to have compassion. If you're a 444 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 7: parent or coach in youth sports, you need to bookmark this. 445 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's brilliant. It's brilliant. 446 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 5: Well, first off, as a lifelong Phillies fan, that hurt, right, 447 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 5: it hurts, it hurt. I'm still I'm still we're still 448 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 5: recovering over here. But uh yeah, I think and we can. 449 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: And I was when you were talking about this and 450 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: built thanks for reaching out. 451 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 5: We appreciate you listening. But when we when I first thought, 452 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 5: when you start first started to talking about it, a 453 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: couple of things came to mind. It's growing, right, mental 454 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 5: health is something that's growing. And I always think about 455 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 5: why right, And there's a few things that I point 456 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: to that has reason why it's grown. 457 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: And the pressure has grown. 458 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 6: Right. 459 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 5: First of all, technology, right, everything is at our fingertips, 460 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 5: so kids harp on it longer, right, they're seeing it 461 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: more and more right, this social media that people don't 462 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: have to deal with thirty years ago, when if you 463 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 5: have a mistake, you're not hearing about it or seeing. 464 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 6: About it and over again. 465 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just on repeat, right, And people are like, 466 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: what's different. Well, social media is a huge aspect of 467 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: mental health, right, that is it's just it's so glaring 468 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 5: and it's so in your face, right, and you're just 469 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 5: you just seeing it all the time. Then even on 470 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: the kids sides, like the technology is great, it helps 471 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 5: us get better, but also. 472 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 3: You're gonna replay that. 473 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 5: You're gonna watch your huddle, You're gonna watch your clip 474 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 5: even when you're a young kid, right, You're gonna watch 475 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 5: this film over and over again. It's gonna be dissected. 476 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 5: And it's not only going to be dissected by you, 477 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 5: it's gonna be. 478 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: Dissected by everybody. It's at everyone's fingertips. 479 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 6: Right. 480 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 5: So I think that combination really puts a strain on 481 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 5: these kids, and it's there's. 482 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: A lot of pressure. Like we said before, it was 483 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: this was you know, it was to get out of 484 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: the house. Right now, this is a business and kids 485 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 3: see that, right, People see that you're you're trying out 486 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: for all these teams. 487 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 5: You're there's just pressure more and more. So it's just 488 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: building and building, and it's something that you have to 489 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 5: really take seriously. And in my career as an athletic director, 490 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: I've been very blessed to have a sports psychologist that. 491 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: I've worked with and I and I bring them everywhere 492 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: I've been. This guy Joel Fish, He's worked with the 493 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: Philadelphia seventy six ers. Yes, I know, legends, absolutely legend 494 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: and I've learned so much from him. 495 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: Uh with my time and when he talks to student athletes, 496 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 5: right and his big things, he always has stressed a 497 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 5: couple points. It's like normalizing the conversation. 498 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 6: Right. 499 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 5: You have to acknowledge that there's gonna be setbacks, right, 500 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 5: you have to you have to own that, right. But 501 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 5: also you have to go in with the mindset that 502 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 5: you're not losing or not having a bad game. 503 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: You're you're you're taking away lessons, right, You're going to 504 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: be better from it. 505 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 6: Right. 506 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 5: And if you if you've really preached that mindset and 507 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 5: we're getting these kids understand that early on that losing 508 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 5: is okay, You're not gonna win all the time, right, 509 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 5: But I always say, adversity bilge character. 510 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: Right, you have to go through adversity. 511 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 5: If you win all the time, you're not going to 512 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 5: be the best version of yourself. So normalizing and having 513 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: these conversations early on are really important for parents coaches 514 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 5: at any level. Right, And like you said, that was 515 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 5: a phenomenal quotes, like there's a time to coach and 516 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 5: there's a time to be compassionate. 517 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. And Rob Thompson like the moment. 518 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 7: This happened where there season ended, and I give him 519 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 7: a lot of respect. The moment there season ends, he's 520 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 7: out of the dugout and he's right to him trying 521 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 7: to console him. 522 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 523 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 7: In fact, Adam Wainwright a great picture, if you remember 524 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 7: from the Cardinals, he tweeted this out he goes. The 525 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 7: end of the Philly Dodgers game yesterday was hard to watch, 526 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 7: obvious because of how it ended. I woke up this 527 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 7: morning still devastated for Orian Kirkering. 528 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 6: But I'll tell you what I did see. 529 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 7: In a moment of total disbelief and heartbreak that their 530 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 7: season ended so abruptly, catcher jt Rilomuto consoling Orian Nick 531 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 7: castianis running. 532 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 6: In from right field to put his arms. 533 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 7: Around Orion manager Rob Thompson waiting at the top of 534 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 7: the step for his pitcher to hug him and remind 535 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 7: him that he was loved. Sometimes we think so much 536 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 7: about outcomes and performances that we forget that these are 537 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 7: just people with real emotions, and in that moment, Oriyan 538 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 7: had his team loving all over him, because when you 539 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 7: play with someone for one sixty two plus spring training 540 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 7: plus playoffs, you become family. Were they sad day loss, 541 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 7: of course, but their heartbreak for Orion and support for 542 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 7: him was clear and great to witness. In a moment 543 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 7: of defeat and total shock. The Philly showed true class 544 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 7: and support for the young player who made a mistake. 545 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 7: Well done, Phillies, and congrats Dodgers. That was beautiful by 546 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 7: Adam Wainwright. Dann. 547 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: I'm was such a great platform right to come out 548 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 5: and say that, because people might say, well, you know, 549 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 5: why are you saying that, right, or that's not a 550 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: popular take, so you know, applause. 551 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 7: Guys are stepping in money and you know all this stuff, 552 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 7: and obviously you know these are professionals at all. But 553 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 7: ultimately it's a young pitcher who melts down and has 554 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 7: this moment and the part of compassion, and that's one 555 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 7: of the things that with kids. That's why when Bill 556 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 7: wrote that, I wanted to talk about because I see 557 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 7: it as a sports that Danny. 558 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 6: I see it all over the place. 559 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 7: Man, I see kids waking out, and you know what happens, 560 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 7: They stopped playing. 561 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm talking about kids. 562 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 7: I'm talking about eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve years old 563 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 7: who if there's that sort of pressure and failure that 564 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 7: they they'll quit the game. And that's not it's antathetical though, 565 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 7: what we're trying to do here. 566 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, we have to keep the perspective that sports at core, right, 567 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 5: is about development and joy. Right, It's about growing as 568 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: a person. Right, That's how I believe. So it's not 569 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 5: about perfection, right. It's not about wins and losses, especially 570 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 5: at that level. Right, It's about making these young men 571 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 5: and women or young boys and girls overall great people 572 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 5: that are going to be successful in society. And I believe, 573 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 5: when done correctly, athletics gives you these characteristics and traits 574 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: that are going to make you super successful. 575 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: Later in life. So I think people get away from it. 576 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: The money. 577 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 5: It makes people crazy, right, The investment parents are putting pressure. 578 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm paying this. 579 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 5: For, you know, to treat you to travel war, right, 580 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: and we have to keep preaching that at the core 581 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 5: of it, it's about development and fun, you know, and 582 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 5: you have to keep echoing that. But a couple of 583 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 5: things an't that I think would be helpful for our 584 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: listeners that I learned from Joel And you know, I 585 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 5: was thinking back when you were talking about it. 586 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: He always said to you know. 587 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 5: Reflect and reset, right, Like you it's important to reflect, 588 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 5: but then you got to shift your focus like what's next? 589 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: Right, if you have to go in with that mindset. 590 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 5: And you would always tell our you know, our student 591 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 5: athletes too, to build mental resilient through routine, so like 592 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 5: incorporate like he would tell them to incorporate like five 593 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 5: mental five minute you know, mental training practices right where 594 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 5: you're just you're thinking about and you're analyzing things so 595 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: you're ready for it, right, Like you have to normalize 596 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 5: that things aren't going to be perfect all the time. 597 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: A lot of people always want to be like no, 598 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 5: when when when when? But we have to we have 599 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 5: to normalize that. 600 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 7: What are some of those exercises because it's interesting because 601 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 7: all those techniques Like I hear a lot of coaches 602 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 7: talk about visualization, right, Like if you especially in baseball, yep, 603 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 7: you know, you have to envision yourself to see yourself performing, 604 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 7: you know, see yourself. You know, I remember Jordan talking 605 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 7: about this years ago, talking about the art of visualization, 606 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 7: how he would see himself, you know, having success and 607 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 7: making shots. 608 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean one of the best, I mean the 609 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 5: best ever do it right, So he is his next level, 610 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 5: but he was mentally at another place. 611 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 6: Right. 612 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 5: Physically he had the trip to you know, the attributes, 613 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 5: but mentally he had a whole nother place. 614 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: So what Joel would tell a lot of our. 615 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 5: Student athletes, he would just say, you know, like let's 616 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 5: do five minutes of focus, Like let's focus on breathing. 617 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: Let's let's kind of again like visualize what you're about 618 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: to do. Let's really think about that. 619 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 5: Let's take time so you're not just running into it, right, 620 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 5: and let's also process that things could go wrong and 621 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 5: how are we going to handle that? 622 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 6: Right. 623 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: So, just like you practice things, you have to practice 624 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 5: mentally as well, because if it's the first time it's happening, 625 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 5: you could freak out right if you're not if you're 626 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 5: not mentally trying to prepare yourself, those things kind of happen, right, 627 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 5: So it's really important to really take take five minutes 628 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: breathe think about scenarios and when things say, hey, things 629 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 5: you want to go bad? How am I going to 630 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 5: respond to? Put that in your brain before it actually happens. 631 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 5: It is important and I never really thought about it. 632 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: But again, it's just like it's like anything else. 633 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: We're just practicing. We're working on our brain, we're working 634 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: on our body. 635 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 5: Right, We're giving our self these exercises and this mental 636 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 5: capacity to handle these situations. 637 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 7: Well, where would to me where this is is this 638 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 7: takes place even before that your level, which is high school, 639 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 7: and it takes place in the much much lower level, 640 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 7: right like, as soon as you have the kids. 641 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 6: You get choosed through the game. 642 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 7: And if you look at basketball, baseball, because football is 643 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 7: a little bit older. But you know, once you get 644 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 7: past that, you know what you're at nine, ten, eleven 645 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 7: years old, it starts to get real. There starts to 646 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 7: be a lot of pressure on you. So let's look 647 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 7: at that when they were even younger. We'll take a 648 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 7: quick to you. We'll come right back. Man, this hour 649 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 7: goes by so fast. It's such an interesting world. It 650 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 7: really is. As a dad of two boys, I was 651 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 7: at a high school game last night, I know you 652 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 7: live it. It's it's such a fascinating world, and I 653 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 7: know a lot of people love it. And you got 654 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 7: kids in it, and you're you're driving everywhere, you're you know, 655 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 7: you're a parent, you're uber, your your dad or mom, coach. 656 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 6: You know you're spending hours with this stuff. 657 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 7: But it's important so many levels, which is why we 658 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 7: decided to do Project Nil right here on Fox Sports Radio. 659 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 7: Welcome back. It's Project Nil. Anthony Gargatto, Daniel D. Bernadvas 660 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 7: the ad from penn Charter in Pennsylvania, the oldest Quicker School, 661 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 7: the fourth oldest school in the country. 662 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 5: Correct, oldest Quaker school in the world, Anthony sixteen. 663 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 6: Sixteen eighty nine. That's wild. 664 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 7: Hey, miss any of today's show, you can always catch 665 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 7: up the podcast at search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 666 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 7: get your podcasts. Right after the show, today's podcast will 667 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 7: be posted. Be sure to follow the podcast, rate it 668 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 7: the five stars. He doesn't solid you can even provide 669 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 7: a review against Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you 670 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 7: get your podcasts. And you'll find this today's show posted 671 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 7: right after we get off the air. Hey, uh, just 672 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 7: to put a bow on this pressure situation, because I 673 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 7: think where the pressure's greatest. Now, obviously you're get into 674 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 7: high school and you're paying. You talked about nil and 675 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 7: kids in high school getting paid, and obviously college. Like 676 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 7: there was a play in college last weekend and I. 677 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 6: Saw something on Twitter. 678 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 7: The kid messed up and he was getting he was 679 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 7: getting crushed and he's like, well he's getting now, so 680 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 7: he's not an amateur. And it's like, we can't wait 681 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 7: to destroy these kids because well, now look he's getting paid. 682 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 7: He's not an amateur. And it's just so ridiculous. It's 683 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 7: you know again, I don't know why we have created 684 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 7: this culture around it where we think it's okay to 685 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 7: just abuse athletes. I tell you, it's just off putting. 686 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 7: But it starts when you're so young. And and listen, 687 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 7: I've raised my boys hard, like you know, you know, 688 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 7: you know how it is like, I'm not I'm not 689 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 7: one of these coddle you know. I want them to 690 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 7: be I want to prepare them for life, right, so 691 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 7: I want them to be a degree. It's tough and 692 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 7: you know, be prepared because life is hard, so they 693 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 7: can't just you know, melt if there's some failure. 694 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 6: But we take it to the end to sometimes. 695 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 7: I mean, I see dandy, I see the coaches and 696 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 7: parents that are just ripping into eleven year olds. 697 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 6: And I think that's over the top. 698 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 5: It's crazy. And you know, I think you do a 699 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 5: great job. I've seen firsthand with your boys. And you 700 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 5: shoot them straight, right, You don't baby them. You shoot 701 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 5: them straight and you give them but you give them 702 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 5: love like I'll never forget. My dad always said, I've 703 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 5: raised you a one percent fear of ninety nine percent love. 704 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 3: And I would debate it was more eighty twenty eight. 705 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: But uh, you know you need you need straight. 706 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 5: You need to give them their proper you know love. 707 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 5: But at the same time, you gotta shoot them straight 708 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 5: and you got to tell them some hard truths. 709 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 6: Right. 710 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 5: But people are just taking it to the next level. 711 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 5: And like we were kind of touching about before the break, 712 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 5: is you sports, It just it's so competitive right now. 713 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 5: Kids are specializing so early. There's the year round training. 714 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 5: You know, they're facing different type of pressures that it 715 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 5: used to be. Like college kids would only face right 716 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 5: or even high level high school. This just happened at 717 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 5: you ten ant, you know, and social media recruiting, you know, 718 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 5: these commitment that these you know, these programs are asking for. 719 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 5: These kids feel like this is their identity opposed to 720 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 5: figuring it out at such a young age, right where, Yeah, 721 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 5: through all this stuff, we're pushing him into it. 722 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: And as parents and as coaches. 723 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: We got to really sit back and see what this is, 724 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 5: what we're what we're doing to these kids, right, and 725 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 5: what the point of being here is. You know, everyone 726 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 5: thinks it's a meal ticket now because there's some more 727 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 5: money at the at a younger age. And that's that's 728 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 5: where I really think it's it's you know, going astray 729 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 5: and becoming such a big issue. 730 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 6: I I like, I see it. Man, the's geez. 731 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 7: It feels like every other week there's some sort of 732 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 7: you know, violence at a at a youth sporting event, 733 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 7: you know, whether it's umpires and coaches. That's the other thing, 734 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 7: the abuse and now kids see this stuff, right, so 735 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 7: it's all part of the same situation right where you 736 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 7: see coaches and parents get into it with umpires and 737 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 7: get into it with yes. 738 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: Yes, and and to talk about. 739 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 5: Even at the high school level, like because of that, 740 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 5: it's trickling down. There's not as many referees and umps 741 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 5: out there anymore. 742 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 6: And I see they don't want to do it. 743 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 5: It's a it's an issue, like they're trying to figure 744 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 5: out ways to recruit these guys and the and the 745 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 5: rarity when you get some good young ones, they're jumping. 746 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 5: They're leaving the youth scene so fast, and they're going 747 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 5: to college because there's a shortage, so there's not this 748 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 5: pipeline that used to pay your you know, you work 749 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 5: your way up, if you show potential, you're out because 750 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 5: there's a shortage right now. And I'm seeing it at 751 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 5: the high school level. I talk to the signers all 752 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 5: the time, and it's like, hey, we don't have the 753 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 5: flexibility for moving games because we don't have the numbers 754 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 5: that we used to have. 755 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 6: You know, you know what it is, it's really tough. 756 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 7: I think we hold these these youth uh you know, 757 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 7: a fish shows and referees to this you know this 758 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 7: standard because we watched games and we're still we're so 759 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 7: into it. We almost have transference right like where we're thinking, well, 760 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 7: how did you miss that? Play hobbs right, like you 761 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 7: gotta forget, Like, I mean, these are first of all, 762 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 7: it's it's harder to officiate sometimes kids because you're not 763 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 7: playing the game correctly and you can't legislate the game 764 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 7: to the point where you're gonna the kids aren't going 765 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 7: to learn. I mean, let's face it. You go to 766 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 7: you football game. You believe me, I have and I 767 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 7: coach it. And you can call holding on every play 768 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 7: like you know, I mean. 769 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 6: You could call you can. 770 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 7: Call you know, penalties on almost I mean, you know, 771 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 7: blocking the back like they're still running the game. So 772 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 7: like do you really want to legislate, Like do you 773 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 7: want to call letter of the law? Strike zone? So 774 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 7: the game takes four hours and it's all walks. You 775 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 7: want them to learn the game? Yeah, you got coaches 776 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 7: who are like arguing with these people. 777 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 778 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 5: And I try to preach the youth coaches whenever they 779 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 5: do ask me for advice, I'm like, guys, you got 780 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,959 Speaker 5: to celebrate like growth, Celebrate grit, right, Grit is something 781 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 5: we're losing. Celebrate teamwork. Don't just celebrate the wins. Like 782 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 5: if you celebrate you know, the grit and the teamwork 783 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 5: and growing. 784 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 3: That's what you have to do. 785 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 5: Like they ask for advice like how to grow a team. 786 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, these are things you celebrate. Take take wins 787 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: and losses out of it. At this level, let's celebrate 788 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 5: these things. And when and when you do that the 789 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 5: right way, guess what, winning's gonna comment. 790 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 3: You're gonna last. It's just a product of it. 791 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 792 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 7: And and by the way, growth is the most important 793 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 7: at that age. Like I tell these coaches all the time, 794 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, I'm not worried. Yeah, is it fun 795 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 7: to win. Yeah, it's fun to win, I mean honestly, 796 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 7: But the growth of the kids is more important because ultimately, 797 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 7: you know, it matters when you go to the high 798 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 7: scho right, So your youth. You got to keep that 799 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 7: in mind as you're teaching and growing and playing the kids, 800 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 7: like you got to make them understand. 801 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 3: It for sure. 802 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 5: So I know we're against it, but guys, we have 803 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 5: a lot of great guests coming up and the programs 804 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 5: will continue to grow. And if you have any topics 805 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 5: or anything questions, please feel free to reach out to. 806 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 3: Me and Anthony and we would happily. 807 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 6: You know, what is your Twitter? 808 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 3: Daniel def Underscore five one five at on Twitter. 809 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 7: All Right, I'm at Anthony el Gargano. 810 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 6: Fellas are next.