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Speaker 1: College Football Apostles.

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Speaker 2: It's your boy George Rice with my main man, Ralph Amsden,

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Speaker 2: the rain Man himself, and yes, I understand there have

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Speaker 2: been some audio issues with a little bit of a reverb. However,

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Speaker 2: we're calling in the geek squad. We will get this

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Speaker 2: and tell a friend about the show. We got to

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Speaker 2: talk about Sharon Moore at Michigan, we got to talk

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Speaker 2: about the college football Playoff, and we got to talk

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Speaker 2: about Notre Dame trolling everybody. So this is and kind

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Speaker 2: of the fallout because there are some people that just

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Speaker 2: learned that were a couple days old. Couple, I was

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Speaker 2: today years old a couple days ago when they learned

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Speaker 2: that Notre Dame was going to get an automatic birth

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Speaker 2: into the college football Playoff as long as they are

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Speaker 2: in the top twelve, no matter even if it's like

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Speaker 2: this year, we're to cut off is ten automatic birth

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Speaker 2: and if it expands to fourteen top thirteen expands the

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Speaker 2: sixteen top.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen, that is a sweetheart deal.

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Speaker 2: And so we're going to talk about that, but we're

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Speaker 2: going to start with Charome Moore Michigan. And mind you,

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Speaker 2: there is a video that did yesterday on the channel

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Speaker 2: talking about what I believe is probably the wildest part

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Speaker 2: of this story is that the same burner account Ralph

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Speaker 2: that outed John matterears venmo account is the same account

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Speaker 2: that then posted on December first that Michigan was about

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Speaker 2: to fire Charome Moore for some sort of scandal and

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Speaker 2: and infidelity. And then you had a case of and

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Speaker 2: then other people jump jumped in like a former racist

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Speaker 2: Michigan quarterback who's been right about everything except for the

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Speaker 2: fact that he didn't like black people.

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Speaker 3: Current current racist former quarterback. Yes, current racist former quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yes, But he was right about it. So sometimes you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't dismiss a message all the time because you

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Speaker 2: don't like the messenger, and the messenger you might not

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Speaker 2: like the messenger, but his but his information was accurate.

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Speaker 2: So apparently this was the worst kept secret in an

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Speaker 2: arbor and anybody that dared ask about it got shut down.

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Speaker 2: It was painted as a salacious, you know, internet message

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Speaker 2: board rumor, but it turned out that there was truth

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Speaker 2: to it, like they even had the two four seven

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Speaker 2: site inside was it inside.

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Speaker 1: Michigan or whatever it's called.

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Speaker 2: Buying into the fact that this was an elaborate hoax.

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Speaker 1: And then there have been reports that.

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Speaker 2: Ward Manual and Michigan knew this for months and they

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Speaker 2: kept it quiet. And then the young lady the ladies

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Speaker 2: report is is that she then went to the athletic

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Speaker 2: department yesterday and gave him all the proof and said, yes,

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Speaker 2: we did it, and then they fired him. But the

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Speaker 2: newest thing, I don't know if you've seen seen this, Ralph,

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Speaker 2: is that apparently war Michigan was alerted that Sharon Moore

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Speaker 2: was dealing with mental health issues. He's smart right here,

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Speaker 2: He's smart here dealing with mental health issues. Yet athletic

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Speaker 2: director Ward Manual fired him alone, with no HR representative

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Speaker 2: and no security present accord for Nicole Arback. And this

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Speaker 2: is on the Yahoo Sports Twitter, Ralph. I have said

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Speaker 2: from jump, Sharon Moore's only option is to take the

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Speaker 1: Some work for Erbenmeyer. But so I what is the

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Speaker 1: wildest part of this story to you?

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Speaker 3: The wildest part, Yes, I would say fresh off of

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Speaker 3: watching the same four part documentary that you watched, Oh

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Speaker 3: to Diddy, Yeah, that your that the information that can

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Speaker 3: of one of your greatest enemies. Because yeah, there was

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Speaker 3: a burner that posted pretty specific details on December first

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Speaker 3: and then took them down. And that burner was the

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Speaker 3: same one that posted the John matteer Venmo information. Yes,

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Speaker 3: but in the months leading up to that post, you

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Speaker 3: him for months going on spaces and saying that that

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Speaker 3: then you also had him posting these videos, these edited

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Speaker 3: alluding to the fact that a scandal was coming, and

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Speaker 3: he would tag Sharon more in all these tweets, just

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Speaker 3: all these hints. And it got to the point where

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Speaker 3: there's no truth to any of this. I guess the

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Speaker 3: most shocking part to me would be how the specifics

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Speaker 3: who knows, and that it would just slow, tortuously slow

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Speaker 3: the motivation would be to hold some of that information back,

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Speaker 1: It, because you can't like, it's just like this.

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Speaker 2: So apparently the so what the reports are is that

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Speaker 2: Michigan investigated this over the summer and they couldn't substantiate

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Speaker 2: anything because Sharon wore and Page whatever her name is

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Speaker 2: said that they could that no, that it did not happen,

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Speaker 2: so absent you know, video evidence, they can't do anything

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Speaker 2: lot of these college coaches have morals clauses, and had

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Speaker 2: this happened outside of the building, he might have been fine.

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Speaker 2: But this happened inside the building, and that creates liability.

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Speaker 2: We've had all of these universities in Michigan State, Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: Michigan sued out the Yahoo for stuff that has happened

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Speaker 2: off the field by doctors and everything. So they are

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Speaker 2: or lawsuits. Now with that, I believe that Michigan was

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Speaker 2: not happy with Sharon Moore either that if he had

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Speaker 2: been a coach that was a free agent available for

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Speaker 2: this hiring cycle or even just now, Ralph, how many

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Speaker 2: do you want to take this Auburn job?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to take this Florida job? You want

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Speaker 2: How many people do you think called him?

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Speaker 2: So if other people aren't checking for you, and when

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Speaker 2: It didn't feel like anybody else could could get the

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Speaker 3: Right right. It felt like it was it was gift

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Speaker 3: But no, it didn't feel like there was an open

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Speaker 3: He's who filled in during Jim Harbaugh's suspension, and one

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Speaker 3: him with But obviously you're going to make more money

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the other part is it feels like he

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Speaker 2: also because he was there for the whole Connor Stallion's things,

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Speaker 2: he deleted his text, he knew where the bodies were buried.

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Speaker 2: So now you get an opportunity because.

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Speaker 3: He had been dirt on his hand. He was a

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he knew where the bodies were buried because

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Speaker 2: he dug some of the holes, and so Michigan was like,

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Speaker 2: all right, Jim, Jim Harball's gone all of these we

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Speaker 2: know that there's gonna be punishment coming down in scrutiny.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to be in that.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be some of the top coaches that are

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Speaker 2: gonna say no to this job just because of they

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Speaker 2: He did a good job when Jim Harball was out.

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Speaker 2: If we don't like it, it's at five and a

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Speaker 3: We can get rid of his ass quick. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: as far as it will go. Okay, Sharon Moore was

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Speaker 3: who Charon Moore is and this actually played out on

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Speaker 3: We have the TMZ phone call that came out that

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Speaker 3: that's been stalking me for months. Months would date back

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Speaker 3: to possibly the initial investigation. How do you stalk somebody

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Speaker 3: who you work with every day. Well, maybe you try

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Speaker 3: Rumors abound. Somehow you know it got out somewhere because

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Speaker 3: less miles at Michigan is posting your picture online a

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Speaker 3: week before you ever go into the office to admit

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Speaker 3: any of this stuff. And you have to wonder, did

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Speaker 3: Michigan and Ward Manual, through their defense and war with

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Speaker 3: the NCAA, create and set a culture in which the

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Speaker 3: people who were still there believed the school would have

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Speaker 2: A lot of people and I think six people on

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Speaker 3: This is true? This is true? Or is somebody who

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Speaker 2: Know that people make bad choices. We don't know what's

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Speaker 2: I don't like that because they're two and one. He's

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Speaker 3: I will judge a couple of things. I'm I'm with

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Speaker 3: You are the head I know you said like, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's dumb. They can't see the head coach in Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Your wife has a doctorate. You think she's stupid?

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Speaker 2: I just think it's a bad look for recruiting. If

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Speaker 2: who should be their next head coach?

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Speaker 3: Because do you think Ward Manual gets to decide that?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Ward Manual gotta be fired. He gotta be fired.

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Speaker 2: How can you keep him?

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Speaker 1: You gotta go, FAM.

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Speaker 2: You cannot be trusted to hire somebody who's trustworthy. That's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the question becomes, can we clean house without cleaning house?

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Speaker 1: How can they out cleaning house?

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Speaker 3: You can go to each and every player on your

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Speaker 2: You can bring in Jetfish though, because he wasn't around

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Speaker 3: But what's Jetfish going to do? Jef Fish is going

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Speaker 3: YO, I got something. I have an impossible name for you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're our booty call. We will use you

440
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: up for football.

441
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: And yes, we got basketball and men's basketball, women's basketball

442
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: and all the other sports. Yeah we're we're a member

443
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: of the ACC. But our most prized possession, Oh, we're

444
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: not sharing with you when we pick up that twenty

445
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars from the college football playoff. Do you

446
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: think we giveing a ACC at Dome? No, no, no, no,

447
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: no no. This is ours' what's yours is mine and

448
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: what's mine is mine. That's how Notre Dame operates. So

449
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: on one hand, it's a flex because they're saying, listen,

450
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: we don't play unless we're playing for championships.

451
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Sure about that, you haven't played.

452
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: You played for a championship in twenty twelve, but you

453
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: ain't won one since the eighties. So let's not get

454
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: on your high horse, Notre Dame about what you do

455
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: and don't play for you should and oh what excuse me?

456
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: And then last year they played for a championship. Two

457
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: But Ralph, I hate the missed opportunities for practice, those

458
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: fifteen practices for you young guys, for your incoming players.

459
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: But at the same time it's Notre Dame, they may

460
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: end up, you know, being hurt by not practicing these

461
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: practices when it comes next fall.

462
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to expose the lie that Notre

463
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Dame initially tried to hide behind, that the players voted

464
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: to not go to a bowl because what if they

465
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: hadn't said yes, do you still launch the same scorched

466
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: earth campaign. No, this was orchestrated. This entire thing was orchestrated.

467
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: You can't throw this level of a intrum unless you

468
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: make this level of a power play. They needed their

469
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 3: players to say no bowl game in order to do

470
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: what they're doing. Now. The athletic director is out here

471
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: on a media tour being weird. He being legitimately weird.

472
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: There's some legitimate weirdness. We got to talk about the

473
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: fact that he's calling Marcus Freeman Brad Pitten saying he

474
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: deserves an NFL job. What does that have to do

475
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: with anything? What does it have to do with literally anything?

476
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: Like he's trying to be out like we everybody wants

477
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: what we got and some people do want you what

478
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: you have. They got twenty six commitments in this last

479
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: recruiting cycle without a single not a single one. They

480
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: got Larry Fitzgerald's kid going out there, They got the

481
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: young Nick Reddish like, they got a monster class that

482
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: they're putting together out in South Bend. And yeah, brag

483
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: on that, brag on on what your coach has been

484
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: able to accomplish, the same coach that lost to Miami

485
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: in Texas, A and m But brag on that. He

486
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: talked about their one of the greatest ten game runs

487
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: in the history of college football. Somebody crunched the numbers.

488
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't even top two in twenty twenty five. But

489
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: he's coming out here, he's saying all these things. He's

490
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: crashing out on the ACC because they repeatedly played the

491
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: Miami game over and over again on ACC Network. But

492
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: that's really up to ESPN, and ESPN actually is the

493
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: one that has the incentive to get Miami in over

494
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: Notre Dame. You know, it helps the ACC for sure,

495
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: but it would ultimately be better for the ACC if

496
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: Notre Dame was there as well. But if it's you

497
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: or me, it's got to be me, and no one

498
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: should fault the ACC for having that perspective. But now

499
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: you have Brett Yormark of the Big twelve out here

500
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: kind of trying to brush Notre Dame back during the season, George,

501
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: we talked about it on this show, how wild it

502
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: was that you went and sat down with Dabo Swinney.

503
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: He had a little couple of extra things to say

504
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: about that we weren't expecting, about how they make their

505
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: own rules, they print their own cash. Then we had

506
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: Joey MacGuire come out in the middle of the season

507
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: and get in the middle of a fight that what

508
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: what what is this? Yeah, and now we're starting to

509
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: hear rumblings that if Notre Dame tries to punish the ACC,

510
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: college football is going to assemble and freeze out Notre Dame.

511
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: We are in terms of scheduling. Yeah, and we are

512
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: officially experiencing World War One in college football, and the

513
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: access of evil is just South Bend, dude.

514
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: This is We're entering Cold War territory for sure.

515
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: Because the SEC of Alabama had gotten left out, go

516
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: back to the off season, Paul fine Bomb laid down

517
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: a threat.

518
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: It was a clear threat.

519
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: That if the if the SEC doesn't get more playoff

520
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: spots because they only got three last year, where there's

521
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: gonna be a problem and the committee and the ap

522
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: Pole voters responded in kind.

523
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they gave Alabama a different standard than they gave

524
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: anyone else.

525
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: Yep.

526
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: So Notre Dame, if they get frozen out, that would

527
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: change everything because they would only if teams refuse, if

528
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: they collude and refuse to to schedule them, they have

529
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: to join a conference. Now, mind you, I'm not the

530
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: person that thinks that that Notre Dame should have to

531
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: join a conference because they're they're independent. But they do

532
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: need to figure out something for that thirteenth game. They

533
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: need to always have like a TBD against somebody who's

534
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: on the bubble for the playoff, a right, but because

535
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: you can't have them just gallivanting and just doing playing

536
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: by a different set of rules than everybody else.

537
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: So here's a true thing. Here's a true thing, though,

538
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: and I don't necessarily have any respect for anybody who

539
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: won't at least admit this. Notre Dame, if they were

540
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 3: in the College Football Playoff, would have a legitimate shot

541
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: to go to the championship. So you have to admit

542
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: that there are schools in the College Football Playoff that

543
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: do not have a legitimate shot to go to the championship.

544
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: That's a gripe that they should have. It should be

545
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: directed not at the ACC, but perhaps at Greg Byrne

546
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: and Alabama and the SEC over a three loss team

547
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: that didn't drop after getting jack stumped in the conference

548
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: championship and will loss to a five and seventeen Notre

549
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: Dame doesn't have a loss to a five and seven team.

550
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: They have four total points separating them from two college

551
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: football playoff teams. So like their gripe shouldn't be with

552
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: the ACC or the CALL. And they did get led on,

553
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: and I thought you did a great job illustrating that

554
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: on your live video on a Fraid show just a

555
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: couple of days ago. They did get led on, So

556
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: they have legitimate gripes. Who what advantage do you think

557
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: it is to go to battle with everyone when it's

558
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: already in place that you have a deal that you

559
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: get to get in. And also, how does that influence

560
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 3: the College Football Playoff Committee from this point on? Because

561
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: if you're going to insult all these people, what incentive

562
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 3: do they have? What incentive does a college football playoff

563
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 3: have if you're on the cusp or of either twelve

564
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: or thirteen to make you twelve. If you've created an

565
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: enemy of everybody.

566
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: You ain't lied about that one, buddy, You have not

567
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 2: lied about that one. All right out about this college

568
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: football playoff, Ralph, we gotta look at these paths because

569
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: we got number one. Indiana, two, Ohio State, Georgia, and

570
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: Texas Tech all have buys. Last year, the bys helped nobody, right.

571
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: The final was five six seven eight. I'm sorry, the

572
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: semifinals was five six seven eight. So, but also you

573
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: also didn't have conference champions. Like the conference champions were

574
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: the people in those spots, and this year the conference

575
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: champions are in those spots again except for Ohio State.

576
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: Do you believe that? Now I've talked to two coaches.

577
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: Neither one of them wanted to buy. One of them

578
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: doesn't have a buy, the other one does have a buy.

579
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: This year, neither one of them wanted to buy. They

580
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: wanted to go out and play because their team was

581
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: rusty when the buye started last year. So do you believe, Ralph,

582
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: that Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia, and Texas Tech are at

583
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 2: a disadvantage by having to play at a neutral site,

584
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: which I think that they should be playing at home

585
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: to give them actual you know, something substantial for being

586
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 2: forgetting a buye or do you so? Do you believe

587
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: that they will be hindered or do you believe that

588
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: they're in good shape.

589
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: I do think it's case by case. But I think

590
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: you made the most important point that what reward is

591
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: there to not have a home game? And at this point,

592
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: sixteen teams make so much more sense than twelve because

593
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 3: if the theme continues of the buy not being an advantage,

594
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: then you're going to have people argue against getting a

595
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: week off and a better seating. Yes, and what a

596
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: weird what a weird place to be in. I'll be like, no,

597
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to be four. I want to be five.

598
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: That's a crazy that's a crazy thing. Like, So, I'm

599
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: just I can say that I think it's case by case.

600
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: A couple of these teams could use it. Uh, you know,

601
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 3: Indiana's in a rhythm. I think Texas Tech, the physical

602
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: style that they play will probably give them maybe an

603
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: advantage to to take to take a week you know.

604
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: But Georgia, because they're really to play, they don't play

605
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, So.

606
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? Take everybody's driver's license away

607
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: for a month.

608
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god.

609
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: If you're Georgia, yeah, it's not even a joke at

610
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: this point. It's not even a joke. Ps. Ryan Silverfield

611
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 3: got an sec job and now has to play Georgia.

612
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: And back up the fact that he talked about every

613
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: nine minutes. Somebody, I just realized that Ryan Silverfield being

614
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: at Arkansas means he might have to go head to

615
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: head with Jimbo somethingime soon. But it's not even joke

616
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: at this point. I don't think time off is good

617
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 3: for Georgia certainly, No.

618
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: No, because they were finding a rhythm.

619
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, in this bracket, who do you believe when's

620
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: the national championship? Well, this is a very hold up.

621
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: Let's go, who do you have in the Alabama Oklahoma game?

622
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: Oklahoma okay, and then.

623
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: Oregon? JMU, I gotta.

624
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: Ask, Yeah, well, I think it'll be a tight first quarter.

625
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: Oh old Miss versus two Le I like old Miss,

626
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: Miami versus Texas and HW Miami. I like all four

627
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: of those picks. So I'm with you there, We're chalk

628
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: right right right now, as far as you know, me

629
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: and you having the same picks. Indiana versus Oklahoma, and

630
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: mind you, Indiana daily is out.

631
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: Daily is out. God that sucks and the way it

632
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: happens sucks. Did he really out for the season off

633
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: of high fiving?

634
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah.

635
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: He got hurt after the game slapping hands with with

636
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: fans that were above him and his knee buckled. So

637
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 2: he either hurt knee, ankle, calf, squad something in the late.

638
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: So Indiana, I still.

639
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: I still like. I like in Indiana in that game.

640
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: I do because Indiana's defense is just as good as Oklahoma's.

641
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's offense is putrid compared to Indiana's, which is really good.

642
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take that. Uh Texas Tech versus Oregon.

643
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: This is harder than it should be, don't you feel

644
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: like it. We've seen Dante more against some pretty good

645
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: pass rushes be okay, yeah, And so it really comes

646
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: down to Oregon pass pro for me, and that has

647
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: been a strength of the team over the Dan Lanning era.

648
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: I'm a little worried about your boy taking a job

649
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: elsewhere and maybe not being one hundred percent focused on

650
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. That can be tough, but

651
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give the edge to Oregon, having seen Texas

652
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: Tech play a lot. Baron Morton is not my favorite quarterback,

653
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: and I think Oregon's defense and their pass protection could

654
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: give them the edge.

655
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

656
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: I believe that Texas Tech's offensive weapons on the outside

657
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: are not special, like that their wideouts are not special,

658
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 2: and that Oregon's gonna be able to stop them from

659
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: running the football. This game feels a lot like the

660
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: Indiana Oklahoma game to me, where Texas Tech doesn't have

661
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: enough offense to beat Oregon and both of the defenses

662
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: are good. Feels like a squeaker there to me. All right, Hey,

663
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Speaker 2: I have two questions. Where is that game being played?

664
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: It's in the Orange Bowl.

665
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so making sure it's not in New Orleans.

666
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: Who do you think Tyler cotton Ball, which it would

667
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: be a home field game for Texas.

668
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: Tech for sure. Who do you think Tyler Shuck is

669
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: rooting for?

670
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh, he's rooming for the Ducks. He just showed up there,

671
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: all right, Texas A and m Miami. Oh no, no, I'm sorry.

672
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: We we already got Miami through Miami. Ohio State.

673
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: Carson Beck against Caleb Down's clear advantage Ohio State.

674
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, Carson Carson Beck is gonna throw four picks

675
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: in this game. There's no way that they beat Ohio

676
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: State absent. Even if Julian's saying got hurt, they might

677
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: not win. Georgia versus Old Miss, this is the one

678
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm kind of torn on because Trinidad Chamberless. I don't

679
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: think he's gonna wettest pants again in the fourth quarter

680
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: like he did against Georgia the first time. Because he

681
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: was he had never played in that sort of environment,

682
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: that sort of intense game.

683
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: It went left for him. I also don't love Georgia's offense.

684
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: They got Zachariah branch on screen routes and all of

685
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: that stuff, and they try to convert on some third

686
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: and longs.

687
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: But Stockton will miss on you.

688
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: Sometimes he'll throw some picks, and none of the other

689
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: receivers are a real threat. So part of me wants

690
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: to pick the upset in Old Miss. But Georgia's defense

691
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: is so good. But you know what effort, Oh Miss, to.

692
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: Which I will say, we can't do everything the same.

693
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: We already looked the same, We already both have NFL background,

694
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: world renowned speaker, travel speaking of the military, everything about

695
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: us is the exact same. We got differentiate on something,

696
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: so I will pick Georgia.

697
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: All right. Now we got Georgia versus Ohio State. Who

698
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: you taking.

699
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: Georgia?

700
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: I can see that I'm taking Ohio State.

701
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

702
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 2: Now we got Indiana versus Oregon rematch from the game,

703
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: except for it's on the neutral field.

704
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Who you got?

705
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm team Fernando, buddy.

706
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

707
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: We might have been the first national podcast to talk

708
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: about Fernando Mendoza. We we have. Is there anybody that

709
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 3: isn't just like native to Berkeley been on the Fernando

710
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: Mendoza train loads on us.

711
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: No, no, his own head Berkeley wasn't, wasn't on it,

712
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: and Justin Wilcome all right, I gotta see it. He

713
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: wouldn't going to be the starter well that he was

714
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: gonna be in a quarter of a quarterback battle.

715
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: He was like sight, is that real? Yes?

716
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 3: Mann, that's real? Yes, Bro, Fernando oh Man. Good luck

717
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: to Tash Loupoy. I hope you win ten games a year.

718
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: I gotta see it through. I got it for for

719
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: the Pac twelve apostles. I gotta see it through. Well.

720
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: I guess Oregon's kind of damn got a whole roster

721
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: of pac Twelf's apostles adjacent players. But I do, I

722
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: do got to see it through with with Nando, our

723
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: Cuban prince. I would love to see him go to

724
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: a national championship. And if what you say is true,

725
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: I'm a root harder for him than ever before.

726
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: Wrong, wrong on all accounts.

727
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: So you got Indiana versus Georgia for the national championship.

728
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: I got Oregon versus Ohio State. Who are you taking?

729
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: I got the Ducks. This is the I played there

730
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: because I genuinely believe that they can beat this football team.

731
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 3: And you've been waiting for that game. You've been waiting

732
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: since Dan Lanning's first ever game as a coach of Oregon.

733
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: You've wanted this.

734
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 2: Well, either either away, either Oregon Ohio State or Oregon Georgia.

735
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: Either way is a win for me. That's true, But

736
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: that George one would.

737
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: Just I will. I will stick with you on which

738
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: side of the bracket comes out of it. So I'll

739
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: have Indiana and you take Oregon, and we'll just be

740
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: We'll be a left We'll be a lefty podcast.

741
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: Indiana winning a national championship would would would throw everybody's

742
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: brain into a circus, it'd be like.

743
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, how the hell did

744
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: they win? They're not supposed to be able to win.

745
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: But if you're if you're Michigan, do you look at

746
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 3: this college football playoff and do you make your coaching

747
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: search as messy as possible for everyone involved in this?

748
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: Do you go kick the tires on Dan Lanning? Do

749
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: you go kick the because you you could, you might

750
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: be the only school that can outbid Cody Campbell. Do

751
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: you go kick the tires on Joe Aguad even though

752
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that would make sense because of where

753
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: he comes from. But do you poke at Kurt Signetti?

754
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: You have Kaitlin Demore right there now.

755
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Davies, his defensive coordinator, leaves.

756
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 2: That would be nasty work, especially after your head coach

757
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: just got a massive raise if he didn't get you

758
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: where you need it to be.

759
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: But we're also in.

760
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: All for season in terms of because guys are declaring

761
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: for the draft and you have people, you know, schools

762
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 2: making their pitch. I know some schools that made their

763
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: pitch in the last you know, twenty four to seventy

764
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: two hours to some of these players, these quarterback numbers

765
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: are going to get insane.

766
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: All right, you brought it up. I didn't want to

767
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 3: talk about it. What you brought it up? We got

768
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: Sam Levitt in the portal, we got a guy that

769
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: you said should be one of the number one portal targets,

770
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: and Colton Joe's in the portal. I do, I do

771
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: want to ask you what you think some of the

772
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 3: numbers will be, because you're also the one who told me

773
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: the highest priced quarterback last year was actually on a

774
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 3: very incentive based deal. So it's essentially two years four

775
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: with the opportunity to be two years eight. That's Darien

776
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: Mensa at Duke. Is there a where do you think

777
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 3: the ceiling is for this year? And what do you

778
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: think guys like Levitt and Colt to Joseph because we're

779
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: talking about the duel threats, right, and then get you.

780
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: Two three quarterbacks if they come come back, because remember

781
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: Fernando mint Mendoza, he can go back to but it's

782
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: gonna cost in the neighborhood of four and a half

783
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 2: million just from the collective plus you know, outside endorsement.

784
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: So we're talking for a Heisman caliber, Heisman contending caliber quarterback.

785
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: Neighbor hood of four to six million.

786
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: So why I mean that could mean everybody comes out?

787
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: What do you oh that? What do you what do

788
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: you mean everybody comes out that?

789
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: At this point, we should just have a full quarterback

790
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 3: market where everybody, everybody goes in and make exactly able.

791
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

792
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that might make a lot of sense.

793
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: Who would you pay at You're clearly an Oregon fan,

794
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 3: I went to Arizona State. Who would you on somebody

795
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: else's team? Because everybody's available. Let's say Dante More goes pro?

796
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: Who would who would you say? You can have anybody?

797
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: Who would you want to bring to your team?

798
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: Nico?

799
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: Nico, Okay, I can't have everybody the one it is.

800
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: I'm probably in the one point five to two range,

801
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: so you you could probably have anybody. I could have

802
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: somebody who do you think is in the one point

803
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 3: five to two range that would actually keep Arizona State

804
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: competitive in the Big twelve? Is one point five too

805
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 3: much for a guy who was at Old Dominion?

806
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not. That is a move.

807
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 2: If I'm Arizona State, I'm looking at mess the maker,

808
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: even though he may go with his head coach Eric

809
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: Morris to Oklahoma State. I'm looking yeah, I'm looking at yeah,

810
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: so I'm looking at him. And then that kid you

811
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: just said, Oh my gosh, I just for forgot his

812
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: name that quick.

813
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: Colton Joseph.

814
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, not not

815
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: a Colton, the one you just Oh my gosh, who'd

816
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: you just say?

817
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Right right before?

818
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: Oh, out of I said, out of old dominion. That's

819
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: that's Colton Joseph. Yeah.

820
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: And there's guys like about the kid from West Florida,

821
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: the kid that got in trouble coming out of out

822
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: of a high high school.

823
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: That's what that's what I'm thinking about.

824
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: The kid that like wrapped the N word and lost

825
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 3: yes scholarship then through for four thousand yards.

826
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that kid.

827
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: Well there's a and I man, I love the idea

828
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 3: of Austin Simmons.

829
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm not paying.

830
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 3: You don't think so.

831
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: No, I'm not paying him one point five million. He

832
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: did nothing to get that. I'll give about eight hundred thousand.

833
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: So you wouldn't you. Somebody has to be proven in

834
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: order to get.

835
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: Yes, because I might not even start Austin Simmons.

836
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: That's fair, Like, that's not a guaranteed starter.

837
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean that's like guaranteeing Bryce Bryce I mean, I

838
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: mean Bryce Underwood, DJ Lagway a start.

839
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: That would be craziness. He might take a pay cut

840
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: if he on my payroll.

841
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna like like that, but I'd be like, listen,

842
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: if you turn out to be the be the starter,

843
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: we will bump you back back up. Outside of that,

844
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: you and a QB competition pal.

845
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: So you got something interesting because I like Austin Simmons

846
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: and you're saying the market's not gonna be crazy like

847
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 3: that for backups. But there's some high profile backups. George

848
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: us he's got one, yep.

849
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: And there was some talk about USC's quarterback Hassan Longstreet

850
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: being on the move. So but you know, we'll get

851
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: to more of that later. And you guys, I'm George

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00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: reris Er, He's Ralph Amson. Make sure that you like, subscribe,

853
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: get notifications, tell a friend about the show.

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Speaker 1: Peace out, Catch you guys later.