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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast won't pick you up from

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Speaker 1: the airport. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am

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Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Not quite full. No Chris Westling, but welcome

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Speaker 1: boys k Rich behind the glass in a slightly different room. Hey,

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Speaker 1: k Rich, Well, Friday, I forget about that. No, I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget about it. Um, And you're the only one

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Speaker 1: that's allowed to say that on this podcast, because it's

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Speaker 1: weird when we do. But and speaking of seduction, Friday,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have West on the phone later, uh, in

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Speaker 1: the back end of the show. We're gonna talk about, um,

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Speaker 1: what's going on in his life right now. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about when West's toaster, a big development on that

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Speaker 1: front that I have to confront. Some would say controversial. Controversial, Sean,

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Speaker 1: if you're something, pay attention. But first, well, why don't

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Speaker 1: we start with some football? And Thursday night football actually

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Speaker 1: a game in which there are about fourteen people in

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Speaker 1: the stands at Raymond James Stadium. The Panthers have little

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Speaker 1: problem with the sad Bucks win for the Panthers, moving

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Speaker 1: them over five for the first time since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight. What do you think about This game follows

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Speaker 1: best three games stretch of Cam Newton's career right on

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Speaker 1: top of that. I mean, they've had runs at the

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Speaker 1: in the second half of the season where they played

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Speaker 1: very well, But even in those games, I don't think

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Speaker 1: Cam was quite as good as his number showed. And

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Speaker 1: now he's making smart decisions, he's completing tough throws, he's running.

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Speaker 1: They had a good stat today our research department. He's

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Speaker 1: the first player in NFL history to have fifty passing

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in twenty five rushing touchdowns in any three season span,

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Speaker 1: and he did it in two and a half. Give

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Speaker 1: credit to coach Ron Rivera, because this is a guy

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Speaker 1: that a month ago looked saddled to uh a coaching

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Speaker 1: staff that was about as uncreative on offense as you

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Speaker 1: could get. And he, as you know we wrote about,

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Speaker 1: he had this epiphany where or maybe he got basically

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Speaker 1: told you're going to change or you're going to be gone.

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Speaker 1: This knows what happened. This is where West would have

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Speaker 1: chimed in at this moment, said Riverboat round. And it's true.

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Speaker 1: And another example of Rivera seeing the light in terms

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Speaker 1: of UH coaching aggressively. Third quarter, I believe fourteen six,

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Speaker 1: but as Riverboat Ron said, field goals don't win games.

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Speaker 1: Touchdowns do. They went for it. I think Mike Tilberg

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Speaker 1: The game is effectively over at that point. Well, and

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Speaker 1: they were. And they were four for five in the

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Speaker 1: weren't doing early on this season. They asked him today

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Speaker 1: in the press conference, Ron Rivera on Friday about his

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Speaker 1: not really a riverboat Ronne not as catchy. Ron Rivera,

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Speaker 1: a Bunsen burner. This Panthers team that we talked about

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Speaker 1: But I think this team knows what it is. It's

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Speaker 1: a power football team that has these long, slow drives.

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Speaker 1: They're tied for the league lead and ten play touchdown drives.

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Speaker 1: They kind of smash you with the running game. They

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Speaker 1: the Panthers as a playoff team right now, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone responds, but they haven't beaten anyone. But you know

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Speaker 1: what they've done, which is hard to do in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: is they played lesser teams. But they have dropped hammers

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Speaker 1: they've proved that they could beat bad teams. Now we've

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Speaker 1: play the tougher upon it. And one thing Dan probably

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Speaker 1: NFL players watching Dan's feed during games, don't him to

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Speaker 1: be tweeting about them because you went out there and

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Speaker 1: chimed in about Ted Gin who literally eight seconds later

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Speaker 1: plain in pain. My awesome voice normally is just sound

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Speaker 1: like you sound like you're the seventh grader and Ron

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Speaker 1: because I tend to a guard it. Well, you don't

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Speaker 1: And I don't know. I like the our NFL network

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Speaker 1: going on in Tampa Bay with players turning on Siano seemingly.

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Speaker 1: But it seems like now it's almost become open season

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Speaker 1: and too easy to pile on Cianna. The pylon feeling

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Speaker 1: is from Greg Rosenthal and the the topic Greg, Greg,

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Speaker 1: the pregame singer pri Anka for Thursday Night Football hit Town.

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Speaker 1: I love her, see ways life. I'm just saying. She's

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Speaker 1: good time. West Lens there and they said, well, you

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Speaker 1: have walking like through some type of futuristic landscape. I

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited. But then next to me are our

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Speaker 1: social media guys, Dwayne and Bryce. They run our Twitter

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Speaker 1: always forgets that fact exactly. She's a an Indian film

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Speaker 1: have in a great outfit. It The song is a

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Speaker 1: little week Prianka. I don't know if I like this

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Speaker 1: and it's better suited for a tourism board. I know

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Though I like last year. I'll put

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Speaker 1: it that one. Well, that's fair. Well. Dan likes, you know,

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Speaker 1: vanilla ice cream, and he likes how salad and cheese,

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Speaker 1: little flavor. We like some excitement. I mean, when comes

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Speaker 1: do whatever you need. You don't think Prianka said, let

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Speaker 1: me have a little input in here. Let's write about

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Speaker 1: some lyrics that speak to something more important about the songwriting. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: do with football. You're talking about in my city, they're

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's getting close. The NBC has it does

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Speaker 1: because for the first time all season we have no

427
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Speaker 1: hero picks. But we also spent five minutes talking about

428
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: Prianka Chopra, so that that made it weird. Yeah, well

429
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: that made it especially weird. But so there are no

430
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: hero picks. Actually there was one, right, Kevin Patra or

431
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: Chicago Correspondent. But other than that, um, you know, we

432
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: all kind of had similar picks throughout the week, and

433
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: in general, no one's gonna go crazy about we give

434
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: Kevin an eerie amount of low attention on this show. Well,

435
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: Kevin took the Giants. Were split on a few games,

436
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: like you guys, for instance, we took us, we both

437
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: took the Jets. That was that wasn't too surprised because like,

438
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: but I took the Bengals. But so let's go through

439
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: the rest of these games. Um, not a ton of winners,

440
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: but we're just gonna keep rolling. That's what we do here. Uh.

441
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: And we will start with Greg Uh. Sell it to me, Greg,

442
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Jacksonville Jaguars. Why are we watching? Colin Kaepernick

443
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 1: is about as fun a quarterback to watch as possible.

444
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: When he's rolling and they're starting to use him on

445
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: the ground a little more, He's making some nice throws

446
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: down the field to Bolden and Davis. I think that

447
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: was the most impressive part of his game against Tennessee

448
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 1: was he finally started hitting those vertical chunk plays as

449
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: Greg Cosell would call him, like he did when he

450
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: first started, like in the Chicago game last night, when

451
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: he last year when he broke out. And so that's

452
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for to keep that passing game going.

453
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: Frank Gore, the inconvenient truth, just does it again. Completely

454
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: overachieves every single season. He leads the league and runs

455
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: twenty yards or more. So if you want to talk

456
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: about big playmakers at running back, by definition, Frank Gore

457
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: is the guy this year. Does he overachieve or is

458
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: he underappreciated? Both? Well, he's thirty now and you kind

459
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: of expected him to start giving up carries and it

460
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: never happens. You know one thing with San Francisco, Yeah,

461
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: they went back to some runs out of the pistol

462
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: last week, which we haven't seen a lot of. There.

463
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: Progress on offense over the last four weeks has been impressive,

464
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: and in a in a couple of weeks from now,

465
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: they get Manning him back and Crabtree and then you

466
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: got that Seattle game. Coming up a couple of weeks

467
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Speaker 1: after that. I like the way that they're sort of

468
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: peaking in the at the right time. Yeah. And on

469
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: the Jaguards side, I'll say, yes, Blaine Gabbard has taken

470
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: over or excuse me, Chad Henny is taken over for

471
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: Blaine exactly. I'm not gonna put too much stock into it.

472
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: They're gonna draft a quarterback in May either way, but

473
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Speaker 1: good luck with all that, Chad. Can we also get

474
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: a ruling? Is it Corey Lemon wah or Corey Lemon yea?

475
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Because I feel like we're gonna have to be saying

476
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: this guy's name the rest of the season because he's

477
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: one of the best young pass rushers in football. He

478
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: shows up every week. Crystal looked at him. Yeah, no

479
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: ruling at this time. Okay, Ritchie, can you get on that.

480
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: I know this is crazy, but they haven't missed Alden

481
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: Smith that much. Maybe it's because of the opponents, but

482
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Speaker 1: it's also because because of Corey. We'll just call him

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Speaker 1: by his first name, all right. So here's this is UM.

484
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Speaker 1: This is another this is a good game. Dallas Cowboys

485
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: and Detroit Lions UM, two teams that personally I'm having

486
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue trying to like Peg

487
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: whether they're good or mediocre or what. But we'll get

488
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: a good We'll get a good idea of both teams here.

489
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush today. By the way, Friday held out of

490
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: practice with some type of leg issue. Leg ye, that

491
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: is something to keep an eye on, um. But listen,

492
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys if they can get this win, they are rolling,

493
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: and that the Lions get to win. I don't know,

494
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: what do you guys think. I don't even know how

495
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: to break this one down. Let's be honest. I've got

496
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: them pegged. I think they're both slightly above average teams

497
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: that can beat anyone on a given week and have

498
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: two of the best ten quarterbacks in the league. They're

499
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: they're done for the rest of you know. This is

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00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: a game that at the beginning of the year I

501
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: would have thought would be a real troubling one for

502
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because of Detroit's pass rush against what I

503
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: thought would be a Cowboys line that just wasn't up

504
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: to part. But they've actually Dallas's line I think has

505
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: played well and and that's gonna be an interesting matchup

506
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: to me to see how can they keep Tony Romo

507
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: safe Romo in recent seasons has done really well against

508
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: the Lions defense. Why I did you guys take the Cowboys.

509
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: We've been riding the Lions bandwagon all year and then

510
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: one Rocky game last week, and you guys get I

511
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: actually have gotten a lot of games wrong picking against Detroit,

512
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: so I haven't been on that train. And I think

513
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: the Dallas is this team that, honestly I look at

514
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: it around the NFC outside of Seattle and in San Francisco,

515
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: they could beat anyone, and yet they could lose to

516
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: anyone too, and I just it's a it's a coin flip.

517
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: I have some personal demons with the Cowboys because over

518
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I've gotten behind them and

519
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: stuck with them and thinking they would turn things around

520
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: and they would always let me down. This year, I

521
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: kind of went the opposite direction. I picked them not

522
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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, and I picked against them a

523
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Speaker 1: lot this year, and it hasn't worked out for me.

524
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna maybe gently get aboard the Cowboys bandwagon

525
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: where it's not gonna work out for you again. I

526
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: feel like this is it's an even matchup, but I

527
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: feel like Detroit has been a better team overall. I

528
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: think they can hurt you in in more way as

529
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't think the Dallas defense just because they played

530
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: well in Philadelphia is something that I'm not afraid if

531
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: Bush doesn't play, though, because when in Week three when

532
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: they played the Redskins, they were a completely different offense

533
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: in a bad way when Bush wasn't on the field.

534
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: I like Bell to some degree as a as a

535
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: stand in, but that would be a big loss. And

536
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: and Bush was not looking healthy than of last week.

537
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: And you mentioned lack of respect for Kevin Patrick. How

538
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: about lack of respect for this game. This might be

539
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: the best game of the week right here, and it

540
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: didn't get in the top section. A little surprising, let's

541
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: admit it. Um, All right, let's move on, Mark Got

542
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, not a ton to say about this game.

543
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: But since it is your Cleveland Browns, they're going to

544
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City try to knock off the undefeated Chiefs. Jason

545
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: Campbell behind center. Now, as the merry go round goes

546
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: round and round in Cleveland, your thoughts, You know, I

547
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: look at this game and two of the better young

548
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: defense is Kansas City made up the NFL's best defense,

549
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 1: and in Cleveland, not unlike Tampa. The wheels could come

550
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: off if they don't get their act together here because

551
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: they're not scoring points. On the other side, I don't

552
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: like Jason Campbell going into Arrowhead Stadium, which is probably

553
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: one of the toughest places to play in football right now.

554
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs, you know, they're a tough watch, but

555
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: they take care of business. I don't like Jason Campbell

556
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: going into any stadium Jason Campbell period. Well, I'm not suggesting.

557
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that any of the other thirty one

558
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: stadiums would be a better place for him to play,

559
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: but this really is a rough first go. It might

560
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: be easier than being at home though. Frankly, actually, man,

561
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: it's funny because he's kind of similar to Brandon Weeden,

562
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: isn't he sure? We'll listen, they've got an arm and

563
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: he takes forever to make a decision and throw the

564
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Didn't they do everything humanly possible to not play Jason

565
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: Campbell this season? Yeah? They did. I mean, they originally

566
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: brought him in to compete for the starting job, and

567
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: it became quickly clear they didn't want him to play

568
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: at all. And then they brought in Hoyer and they

569
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: basically got buried. Do you see this as a game

570
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: that could be weird and be sort of a fourteen

571
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: thirteen or of a teen type thirteen game. I think

572
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: the Browns have the defense to keep Alex Smith and

573
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: check for sure. So yeah. And and Jason Campbell, he's

574
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: not he doesn't get you excited, but he's also a

575
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: guy that's known to be very conservative, so you probably

576
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: won't throw the game away. So you could be if

577
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: you're looking for a win, if you're looking for hope

578
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: as a Browns fan, I'm thinking win as your only shot.

579
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I think you need a Travis Benjamin, need something strange

580
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: like that. How about Anataia Ruben seven yard fumble return?

581
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: I like that man with football for a last week case,

582
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: Keenum went in there and the Texans were in that

583
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: game to the last second. The Chiefs, as good as

584
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: they've been, generally don't put a team away until the

585
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: fourth court. It's usually close. And if the last word

586
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: on this, if you guys would um if the Browns

587
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: don't pull upset off there staring down a five game

588
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: losing streak, because after this game, a home to Ravens

589
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: and at Bengals, and you know, it's real tough. It

590
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: could be a tough situation. Um, all right, Moving on

591
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills New Orleans Saints, Uh Spiller, it looks

592
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: like they're finally gonna sit C. J. Spiller, whose ankle

593
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: is still not right. We're not sure on that, but

594
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: that's there's been speculation that Maron is gonna try to

595
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: get Spiller healthy. You know, the Saints are the favorite

596
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: in this game. Is there anyway the Bills pulling upset

597
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: off Greig? It's gotta be very tough. But they're a

598
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: defense that can give the Saints offense problems. And I

599
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: don't think the Saints offense has been quite as explosive

600
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 1: as they have been in previous years. And I think

601
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: this Bill's defense comes to play each week, and so

602
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: they've got a chance to slow him down. I think

603
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to run the ball well against New Orleans,

604
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be able to. You know, C J.

605
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: Spiller's doubtful officially for the game, so I wouldn't be

606
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: surprised if he doesn't even make the trip. I think

607
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson has shown he can take over year after year.

608
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: Is there a more underrated player than Fred Jackson in

609
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, and I kind of like this backfield

610
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: when it isn't two or three guys splitting carries. It

611
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: might be I'm not sure it changes that much because

612
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Spiller's had his issues this season. I'm interested Thad Lewis because,

613
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: you know what, for a guy that was on the

614
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: practice squad a month ago, he's actually played very well.

615
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't even think I'm done giving Fred Jackson some love,

616
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: so you keep going. When there was a fantasy when

617
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: I was, you know, at road World, and we did fantasy.

618
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: It's very hard for a player to be undervalued year

619
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: after year because usually people just kind of wise up

620
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: to it. In every year you thought, well, this is

621
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: the year Fred Jackson's not gonna do it something. They

622
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: always have these high priced, you know, running backs with him,

623
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Willis mcgahey, now c J. Spiller, whoever that Marshawn Lynch

624
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: was there, who you expect to be better than Fred

625
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: Jackson in the end, he never is, and he's coming

626
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: off a devastating injury. He's out of Coke College line up.

627
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: The careers Fred Jackson versus Reggie Bush, similar players who

628
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: has had the better career. If he wasn't stuck in Buffalo,

629
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: this guy would be a star. I have me some

630
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson. So let's say there, he's a station wagon

631
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and you have the option to drive from

632
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo to Los Angeles with Fred Jackson or pri unka.

633
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: What road trip do you pickin? He just got He

634
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: didn't get out of the chair for I don't know

635
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: you taking for the car trip. I'm taking Fred Jackson

636
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. There's different questions. And by

637
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: the way, the one thing I have to say about

638
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Speaker 1: this um and I say this a lot because I

639
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: don't consider myself one beware of experts, because back in August,

640
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: anybody who read That's reviewed as a respectable football guy

641
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: was saying Fred Jackson was shot and he wasn't moving,

642
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: and he was gonna be phased out of that offense.

643
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: And he lives. He's like Jason twenty five catches already

644
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: this year for Fred Jackson four and a half yards.

645
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: I just he's a fun player. All right. Let's move on, Mark,

646
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: NFC East Showdown. I know you love the NFC East. Mark.

647
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: The Giants finally gotta win. They are going into Philadelphia

648
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: now to play the Eagles, and Michael Vick should be

649
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: back in the lineup. What are you seeing here? You know,

650
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: I think this is this a bad of events for

651
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: the Giants because Vick's last game was against New York.

652
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: He went out just before halftime and had seventy nine

653
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: yards rushing on the ground. They did all they could

654
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: to shut down la Shawn McCoy and did actually a

655
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: good job of that because they ignored any sort of

656
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: option play. They just went right at McCoy. But Vic

657
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: went wild before getting hurt. And you know, I think

658
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: that this offense is a little bit more dynamic in

659
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: terms of what it can do with Vick. Obviously, Folds

660
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: two weeks ago looked really good. Last week it was

661
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: a disaster. I'm kind of glad we're not staring at

662
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: some quarterback controversy there. Ride it out with Vic for now.

663
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: The guy probably won't be back next season. In terms

664
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Speaker 1: of this game, how do you pick the Giants? They

665
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: beat a very bad Vikings team and what it might

666
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: have been the most boring game we've seen in ages. Wait,

667
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: weren't you riding the Nick Foles bandwagon seven days ago?

668
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: I think that was me I know, but I Folds

669
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: looked very good against the Bucks. But but what we

670
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: saw against the Cowboys, I think it's squelched any sort

671
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: of Hey who should start here was he was not ready.

672
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: Giants defense showed some signs they're stopping the run, like

673
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: in Jason Pierre Paul Is coming off his best game

674
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: of the season by far. But there's not much reason

675
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: to believe that this isn't one of the worst teams

676
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: in folks. And that wasn't that Monday night went over.

677
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: The Vikings wasn't a cure all. And it wasn't a

678
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: game where it's like, ah, that's the giant team that

679
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: we thought was going to show up. They didn't play

680
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: a great game. It's just the Vikings were completely flat.

681
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: That actually felt like you were watching a preseason game.

682
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: It was a very odd Monday when I feel like

683
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: this is a comment from six and a half years ago,

684
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: but without Brandon Jacobs, I don't like New York's ability

685
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: to run the ball. He actually played really well two

686
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: weeks Peyton Hillis rumble it into the end zone at

687
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: the medal. Hillis was probably New York's best player on

688
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: offense last week, and he's still had less than three yards,

689
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: but anybody picked the Giants. Kevin Patrick had a hero

690
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: pick with the Giants. I picked the Eagles to win

691
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: this division before the season started, and I feel like

692
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: they are hanging by a thread. They're getting propped up

693
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: by beating some bad teams, and they're really they're struggling

694
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: to find themselves and not playing well. This is the

695
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: game they have to get to get the four and four. Yes,

696
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: all right? Moving forward the Pittsburgh Steelers, who are halfway

697
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: out of the own four hole they dug. They've back

698
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: to back wins, including a big one over the Ravens

699
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: on Sunday. They now travel to the black Hole to

700
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: face the Raiders. You know this is this is another

701
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: interesting game. I really the Steelers. I think they're gonna

702
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: get back into this race. I think that when they

703
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: play the Ravens again in a few weeks it's gonna

704
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: mean something. But they basically they're gonna kind of need

705
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: this win. The Raiders have been tougher than people imagine,

706
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: especially at home. What are you guys seeing on this listen,

707
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: We've got Wes Chris Westling unscheduled to eat a softball

708
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: pants if the Raiders win six games, this is a

709
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: winnable game for them. They would be three and four

710
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: after seven outings. That has to put Westling on some

711
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: hot turn He already said he was nervous after the

712
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Chargers win for the Raiders, so this would put him

713
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: in very dangerous ground. I do think the Steelers will

714
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: win this game, though they have three winnable games coming

715
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: up Oakland does. None of us is buying their resurgence. Defensively,

716
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: none of us picked them. We see Pittsburgh getting back

717
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: into the mix. It's amazing that they've only had one

718
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: game this year. They forced the turnover. If they weren't

719
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: negative their negative ten and turnover margin, if they weren't

720
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: negative ten, they'd be a pretty good team. Ben Roethlisberger

721
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: was on the Rich Eisen podcast this week. Uh, we

722
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: encourage you to tune in and check that out. But

723
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: he he said that the inability to force turnovers and

724
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: the propensity to have turners turnovers on offense was like

725
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: they were shooting themselves in both feet, which I thought

726
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: was kind of a smart way to put it. Uh yeah,

727
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: So that's really when you put those two things together,

728
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: makes it makes sense why they were owing four. But

729
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: I agree, I think that they're gonna win this game,

730
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: but it will be close. It should be close, right,

731
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh finally can run the ball with Levan Bell.

732
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: You know, he he looked really good actually last week.

733
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: And a funny thing from Big Ben. He he goes

734
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: on radio, he's got a weekly radio show and says

735
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: that because they've been running some wildcat uh, and they

736
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: aren't being critiqued like the Jets, so that's not fair.

737
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: But they're having Big Ben shootout to play wide receiver

738
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: on these plays and he's already complained saying that he's

739
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: too tired to do that, too tired to split out

740
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: and play wide receiver twice a game. That doesn't surprise me.

741
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: One thing we we mentioned that we mentioned last Sunday

742
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: watching I remember when Ben roths. You know, he was

743
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: never a speed demon, but when he would get in

744
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: the open field, he would run pretty well. He has

745
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: lost a lot of speed, a lot of RPMs off

746
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: the um. All right, let's move on. The Atlanta Falcons

747
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: are heading to Arizona to play the Cardinals. Uh. You know,

748
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: the Falcons have reached a point similar to the Steelers

749
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: where they're kind of in must win territory in October,

750
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: which is never a great place to be the Cardinals.

751
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm starting to think that he could be

752
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: staring at another six and ten team over in the

753
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: in the desert there, Mark, what are you seeing here?

754
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: I don't like any game where the Cardinals have to

755
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: face any sort of a pass rush, but this might

756
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: be a team like in Atlanta that really can't do that.

757
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: And so maybe Carson Palmer isn't just a sitting duck

758
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: back there. But I watched the Falcons last week. It's

759
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: the game that we covered on Sunday, and everyone says

760
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Not everyone, but the critique on Matt Ryan

761
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: is listening. If you didn't have so much talent around him,

762
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: he'd be a very average quarterback. I'd say nonsense to that,

763
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: because you know what, you don't have Steven Jackson. You

764
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: don't I say poppy cock to that. Damn you don't

765
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: have Roddy White, you don't have Julio Jones. And he

766
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: turns start. He made you know, Harry Douglas into a

767
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: star last week, and I thought that they did a

768
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: real nice job moving the ball, converting, converting down. I

769
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: think we're on the same points point of the day.

770
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: It's over. Cessler won it. This very nice visual for

771
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: the podcast. Is there a harder game to predict? Though?

772
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: I did think about this more than any other game

773
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: this week. I ended up going with the Falcons just

774
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: because every week I watched Matt Ryan and think he's

775
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: playing great and it's hard to pick against him going

776
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: against Carson. But you're right, this is a matchup of

777
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: weakness on weakness. The Falcons defense is one of the

778
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: worst five groups in the league. I would say, uh,

779
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: and going up against Carson Palmer, I don't expect this

780
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: to be a blow out. They do get Steven Jackson back.

781
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: No Roddy White, no holliood Jones, of course, but they

782
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: do get Steven Jackson back. I wish Larah FitzGeralds was

783
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: healthy this year. I was really excited that we were

784
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: gonna be the revitalized season. But now he's got this hamstring.

785
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: He's not playing at full speed and that that obviously

786
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: makes a big difference. One guy that you know, we

787
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: all talked him up. I think he was making the

788
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: leap candidate Michael Floyd has been a little quiet this year.

789
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: They could use the thing they could use a little

790
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: more from him. Started off. Well, it's hard to know.

791
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: It's hard to evaluate those wide receivers when Carson Palmer's

792
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: throwing the ball and they have no time to throw.

793
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's move forward the Green Bay Packers, who

794
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: are in first place in the NFC North. Congratulation boys, uh,

795
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: They will face the woeful Minnesota Vikings um who are

796
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: now start back to Christian Ponder after Josh Freeman suffered

797
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: that mysterious concussion. This doesn't seem like it's so many

798
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: close game, is it correct. It's weird that Freeman practice not.

799
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: Sorry to dodge your question, but I don't think. I

800
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think it will be a close game.

801
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: To answer your question, I think the Packers defense is peaking.

802
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: I think Christian Ponder gives the Vikings a much better

803
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: chance than Josh Freeman would at this stage. So that's

804
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: a positive for them and the Packers. That's also a

805
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: dramatic negative. Yeah, it's not a good time. And the

806
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: Packers have had trouble winning in Minnesota in recent years,

807
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble winning in Minnesota, so you know,

808
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: who knows they haven't been able to stop Adrian Peterson.

809
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: But the Freeman situation is more interesting to me. It's

810
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: weird that he returned to practice, but he won't be

811
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: active for the game. We have Ross Tucker writing a

812
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: column that players in that Vikings locker room will probably

813
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: fairer not wonder what happened with this Freeman concussion, whether

814
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: you know he made the choice to do it, whether

815
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: he basically asked that we in this situation again, or

816
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: speculating what's going on with Josh Freeman behind the scenes. Uh,

817
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: you're not, Dan, You're not. I'm just enticed by that

818
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: story board of it. But it's worthy of discussion. I'm

819
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: not sure where this goes though. I don't know if

820
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: we're going to see Freeman be the starter this year

821
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: for Minnesota or not. I don't really know. I mean,

822
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: it could it might end up just being ponder again

823
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: for a while. Well, and it's almost like you could

824
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: see Freeman at some point just getting released. I mean,

825
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: it's like the thing could spiral into a dark place.

826
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: You know, we just talked about Matt Ryan, who is

827
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: able to take anyone it looks like last week and

828
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: turn them into productive players. That's what I see from

829
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: no one better than Aaron Rodgers, because you know, against Cleveland,

830
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: a pretty good defense last week, with a ton of

831
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: guys out, he just carved them up. He had his

832
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: way with him. And it's it's, uh, there's no quarterback

833
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: that does it anywhere to the same level. It's it's

834
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: it's too early to flex games out on Sunday night apparently,

835
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: because yeah, it is. Alan Chris are stuck with this game.

836
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: There there's some much better ones, but it is what

837
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: it is. I think I think the Packers have to

838
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: be thrilled that they could get the five and two

839
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: after you know, considering the injuries they've had. Who knows

840
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: if they'll get to Michael Finley back, but they will

841
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: get Randall cob eventually. The rowdy into form. So as

842
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: Carrie Oner, we're gonna try to tell us that we're

843
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: excited about this game. It's gonna be a tough sell

844
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: for Carrie. She's constantly off, you know, She's just I'm

845
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: not buying it all right, by the way. I'm just

846
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious real quick, because we're running a little

847
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: low on time Vikings final record this season. I'm just

848
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: curious what you guys think, Uh, three and thirteen sounds

849
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: about right. I will go four and twelve them another quarterback, okay?

850
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: And what moves us to the last game of the week.

851
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, who you know, may or may not have

852
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: Percy Harvin uh travel to St. Louis to face Kelen

853
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: Clemens and the Ransom Man. Uh. Speaking of prime time announcers,

854
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: you have John Gruden and Mike threeco that they can't

855
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: be thrilled about this one, no, because it's it's also

856
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: opposite the World Series in St. Louis that night, right,

857
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: which is pretty brutal. You took that the loss by

858
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: the Socks last night pretty well. I thought that's the

859
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: only game two here. You know Kellen Clemens, I'm excited

860
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: about him. Well, you know what, like when you look

861
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: at Seattle, I think that watching Russell Wilson, because we

862
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: got a Seattle Arizona game two thursdays ago, which that

863
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily the sexiest matchup of the year, but they're

864
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: fun to watch, and Russell Wilson like they're starting to

865
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: do more and more with him on offense. It looks

866
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: a little bit like last year to me, where they're

867
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: getting their kind of act together in terms of scheme,

868
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: we're not too far away from Percy Harvin coming back.

869
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: This team is tough to beat that and they just

870
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: learned how valuable Sam Bradford is because as much as

871
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: they dogged him, now it's like the season is over

872
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: because Kevin Clemens is your quarterback. But you do You

873
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: did find a little something in Zach Stacy and I

874
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: love watching this guy. He actually reminds me a little

875
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: bit of a young Frank Gore because he's a three

876
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: down back. He's powerful, but he's really good on passing down,

877
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: very comfortable catching the ball. He he looks like a

878
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: starting running back if you didn't know he was a

879
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: late round pick. He reminds me a lot of a

880
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: little He reminds me of Frank Gore when the Niners

881
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: didn't know how to run an offense and he was

882
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: the one thing sitting there. And until that team learns

883
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: how to get someone in there that can make the

884
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: most of not only the quarterback but the other positions,

885
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna be this three and four, three

886
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: and five team year after year. And if you want to,

887
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: if you want to see a Zacks Stacy showcase Monday night,

888
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: probably won't be at least as a rusher because you

889
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: know the Rams will be down three at the end

890
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: of the first quarter. Just just watch him. Tell me,

891
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: all right, that's it for the game's k rich what's

892
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: going on behind the glass? Everything's good? Looking forward to

893
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: my Giants Philly matchup? All right, good luck with that. Hey, um,

894
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, is it possible to get him on the

895
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: horn because you gotta take care of some housekeeping here. Hey,

896
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm what's going on? What's going on? Buddy? Welcome to uh,

897
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: welcome to your podcast in my podcast? Thank you? What's

898
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: going on over there? Uh? Just about ready to get

899
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: on the road and go to Santa Barbara, who with

900
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: my friend Aaron. Oh okay, that sounds good. That sounds

901
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: like a nice weekend you got planned, you know it,

902
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: Seduction Friday, Friday, like the five of you include Kay,

903
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: Richie and of course while the intern and taking me

904
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: under your wing and showing me the way I was

905
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: stuck in seduction Saturday and that wasn't working for me.

906
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Now I'm a new man. Well, when you head up

907
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: to Santa Barbara on Seduction Friday, there really are no limits.

908
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: We should mention that Aaron is a woman. Yes, yes,

909
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: it's not important though not be progressive market. I met

910
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: her last night. She's loving. Well. You look, Chris has

911
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: to relieve some stress because it's been a controversial week. Listen,

912
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, good transition, Greg West. We got to talk

913
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: about this when West's toaster. Um, you know, I declared

914
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Sham from Sacramento the winner based on that last question

915
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: on Wednesday in which you said Reggie Wayne had the

916
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: second longest active streak, Uh games played. I said you

917
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: were wrong, but you were right. It was Reggie Wayne.

918
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: And at first I just want to offer a humble

919
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: apology to you. No apology necessary, all right, I think

920
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: it's totally necessary, totally Greig as I rate. And we'll

921
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: get to why. Yeah. And number two, Uh, this is

922
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: something we need to address. So the decision has been made.

923
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: The committee the win West's Toaster committee has met. They've

924
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: come to a conclusion that you will remain the champion.

925
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: And this is again apologies to Shaman Sacramento. Sean will

926
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: get his toaster, but West will West. Shan will get

927
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: a toaster of his choice, but West will keep his toaster.

928
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: And this is the I'm not sure and but this

929
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: is this is the one caveat and I will run

930
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: it by West. It will be up to his people

931
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: to decide when it comes time to defend your toaster again,

932
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Sean gets the first crack. Oh that's that sounds good

933
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: to me. And I don't have people he is that

934
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: West is a lone wolf. Nobody is more upset about

935
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: this development, and which I think you know, as a

936
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: podcast we've handled well then, Greg, who has nothing but

937
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: utter disdain for the franchise of Wind West's toast ship.

938
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's back. It's bigger than it

939
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: was before, and it's not going away. It's all just

940
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: seems a little suspicious. Remember I don't know if you've

941
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: ever seen the movie Quiz Show. You know, a lot

942
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: of rigging in the game shows back in the fifties

943
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: and sixties. Finally it was like West had lost and

944
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: now we come back and there's well, the world is

945
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: not pure. I'm sorry. You know the headline here would

946
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: be area man Fallible and that's me. I messed up everyone.

947
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: You know, I owned up to my mistake. The game

948
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: A lot of there's a lot of buzz about the

949
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: game nationally. Greg, you gotta admit, well, unlike damnae Chick,

950
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: who believes that you have to jerrymander things around to

951
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: get manufactured drama and controversy, actually has a natural controversy.

952
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: We came to this through uh no nefarious purposes whatsoever.

953
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: Um Wesleyan was shockingly possessive of this toaster, though. I

954
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: I thought, of course we have to send Sean the toaster.

955
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: It's our fault that we got it wrong. And he

956
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: is getting a toaster, Crystal you made sure that right. Yeah,

957
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: he's getting his toaster. But west will still have the

958
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: one of a kind Team toaster, which we can't find

959
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: anywhere now. So this really is valuable. And west who

960
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: has never actually opened this toaster, did not want to

961
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: give it up. He was He felt that very smartly.

962
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: I just like that Greg is saying that it was

963
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: our mistake and not mine. Greg, you don't understand the

964
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: possessiveness here because don't understand the value of the toaster

965
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: on a symbolic level. Guys, I have a picture giving

966
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: away to Lombardi trophies. I have a picture of Westley

967
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: kissing the toaster. I might have to tweet that out today.

968
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: I think you definitely should might be like that thing

969
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: where Sean Payton slept with the Lombardi Trophy the night

970
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: after the Super Boy. Hey, West, have a lot of fun, man,

971
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: plan on doing that. Come back on Sunday because we

972
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: do need you to do NFL related activities. All right,

973
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: We'll be bad and sorry, get Saturday night to hang

974
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: out with you guys if you want. All right, that

975
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: sounds good, and sorry again about the toaster and congratulations

976
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: on retaining your title. I'll be it in controversial matter.

977
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You boys have fun, all right? All right,

978
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: so we should get out of here. We're starting to

979
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: turn these podcasts into marathons. We will try to get

980
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: better with that next week, uh, starting Sunday where we

981
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: will listen to that music where we will recap all

982
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: of all of the games and uh, you know, we'll

983
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: do our thing. Uh. This is Dan Hansis signing off

984
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: for the Sizzler, the Boss, car Rich behind the Glass

985
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: and Lyle the a t L Intern Until Sunday. You're

986
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna like it. The Around the League Podcast won't pick

987
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: you up from the airport. Welcome to another edition of

988
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: the Around the League Pod. As my name is Dan

989
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with heroes,

990
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal. Not quite full. No Chris Westling,

991
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: but welcome boys, k Rich behind the glass in a

992
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: slightly different room. Hey, k Rich, Well, Friday, I forget

993
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: about that. No, we'll never forget about it. Um, And

994
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: you're the only one that's allowed to say that on

995
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: this podcast, because it's weird when we do. But and

996
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: speaking of seduction, Friday, we're gonna have West on the

997
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: phone later, uh, in the back end of the show.

998
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about, um, what's going on in his

999
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: life right now, We're gonna talk about when West's toaster,

1000
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: a big development on that front that I have to confront,

1001
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: some would say controversial, controversial, sham. If you're listening, pay attention.

1002
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: But first, well, why don't we start with some football?

1003
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: And Thursday night football actually a game in which there

1004
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: are about fourteen people in the stands at Raymond JA Stadium.

1005
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: The Panthers have little problem with the sad Bucks win

1006
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: for the Panthers, moving them over five for the first

1007
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: time since two thousand and eight. What do you think about?

1008
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: This game? Folds Best three games stretch of Cam Newton's career.

1009
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: Right on top of that. I mean, they've had runs

1010
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: at the in the second half of the season where

1011
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: they played very well. But even in those games, I

1012
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: don't think Cam was quite as good as his number showed.

1013
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: And now he's making smart decisions, he's completing tough throws,

1014
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: he's running. They had a good stat today our research department.

1015
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: He's the first player in NFL history to have fifty

1016
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns in twenty five rushing touchdowns in any three

1017
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: season span, and he did it in two and a half.

1018
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: I give credit to coach Ron Rivera because this is

1019
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: a guy that a month ago looked saddled to uh

1020
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: a coaching staff that was about as uncreative on offense

1021
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: as you could get, and he, as you know we

1022
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: wrote about, he had this epiphany where or maybe he

1023
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: got basically told you're going to change or you're going

1024
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: to be gone. This knows what happened. This is where

1025
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: West would have chimed in at this moment, said Riverboat round,

1026
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: and it's true and another example of Rivera seeing the

1027
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: light in terms of coaching aggressively. Third quarter, I believe

1028
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: fourteen six, fourth and one, the Panthers were in field

1029
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: goal range, but as Riverboat Ron said, field goals don't

1030
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: win games, touchdowns do. They went for it. I think

1031
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tilbury got the first down, they go on to

1032
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: score touchdown. The game is effectively over at that point. Well,

1033
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: and they were. And they were four for five in

1034
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: the red zone with touchdowns, four touchdowns out of five

1035
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: trips to the red zone. I was like, that's what

1036
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: they weren't doing early on this season. They asked him

1037
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: today in the press conference, Ron Rivera on Friday about

1038
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: his new nickname riverboat Ron. I guess this has got subtraction,

1039
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: and he said, well, I don't really like that. I

1040
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: think of it more as calculated risk taker, which was

1041
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: not really a riverboat. Not as catchy. Ron Rivera, by

1042
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: the way, looks more like a seventh grade earth science teacher.

1043
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: Every week I keep commenting on this just watching him,

1044
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: doesn't he look like a guy I could taught you

1045
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: in middle school. I could see him with a Bunsen burner.

1046
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: This Panthers team that we talked about identity maybe too much.

1047
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: That team has to have an identity, but I think

1048
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: this team knows what it is. It's a power football

1049
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: team that has these long, slow drives. They're tied for

1050
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: the league lead and ten play touchdown drives. They kind

1051
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: of smash you with the running game. They throw it

1052
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: deep and they have one of the best defense in

1053
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: the league. They know who they are. You know. I

1054
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: got killed last night on Twitter four at the end

1055
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: of the game saying bottom line, I look at the

1056
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Speaker 1: Panthers as a playoff team right now, and yeah, everyone responds,

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00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: but they haven't beaten anyone. But you know what they've done,

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00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: which is hard to do in the NFL, is they

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00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: played lesser teams. But they have dropped hammers on these teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I you know, Actually, Greg and I discussed that last

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Speaker 1: night in the news room. I think I think the

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00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: last three games are against teams that have a four

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00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: and seventeen combined record, But the Panthers dropped eight uh

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00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: different in scoring total, which tells you they're beating up

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00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: on bad teams. This is what good teams do. And

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Speaker 1: what I wrote about yesterday was now they've proved that

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00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: they could beat bad teams. Now we've got to see

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00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: them beat some teams where people don't predict them to win.

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00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: We're still waiting for that signature. Panthers moment. And one

1070
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: more thing, but to go back to Cam Newton. Uh,

1071
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: this was the Panthers during the streak, thirty plus points

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00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: in all three games and no turnovers. That's the first

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00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: time they've done that in Panthers history. And that goes

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00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: back to Newton as well. I think we learned a

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00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: lot about them. Next week to me is maybe the

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00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: key swing game of their season. They're at home versus Atlanta,

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00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: and that's a game right now that they should be

1078
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: expected to win and that they should win. And if

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Speaker 1: they win it, they get to five and three. After that,

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00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: they have San Francisco and New England back to back,

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00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be tough and you hope to split that.

1082
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: So this Falcons win, if it's really a new playoff team,

1083
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: like Mark says, that's the win they get taken care

1084
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: of and then they play the tougher upon it. And

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00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: one thing Dan probably NFL players watching Dan's fee during games,

1086
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: don't him to be tweeting about them, because you went

1087
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: out there and chimed in about Ted Gin who literally

1088
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: eight seconds later drops what would have been a touchdown.

1089
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: They also fumbled the ball got overturned, but no again.

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00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: Listen again, here's another stat you want to talk stats again.

1091
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: Had five catches, the first time he's had five catches

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00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: since December two thousand nine. He's an actual player in

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: that offense, and he he actually he seems very good

1094
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: with those slant passes. Obviously not too good a d passes. Uh.

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: Mike Freeman of I think CBS Sports or is a

1096
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: bleacher report where um he tweeted that Tedkin couldn't catch

1097
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: m R s A, which is funny and kind of mean.

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00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: Jen has been a big difference maker this year, and

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00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: they're running the ball and they're gonna get Jonathan Stewart back.

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Speaker 1: I think we should touch a little bit on the

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00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: bucks quickly. I know we want to move on to

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00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: the other games, just that now they're not even being competitive.

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00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: By the way, great you sound great. Yeah, I'm sick

1104
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: right now, you know, plane in pain. My awesome voice

1105
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: normally is just sound like you sound like you're the

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00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: seventh grader and Ron Rivera's classroom. That's like the dads

1107
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: that gets sick when the babies are at home. This

1108
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to me because I tend to a guard it. Well,

1109
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: you don't spend time with children anyway. Sorry, gotta have

1110
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: a lot of time to spend time with his children.

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00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's getting worse, right, I mean

1112
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: their defense was supposed to be the trademark of this team.

1113
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: He's a defensive coach. They've got a ton of defensive talent,

1114
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: and they've now given up exactly thirty one points in

1115
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: three straight weeks. So they it's kind of caving in

1116
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: on it. It's looking a lot like when Rockey Morris

1117
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: was ending his run with the Bucks and the wheels

1118
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: just came off. They go to Seattle next week, have

1119
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: fun with that. Yeah, that won't be That won't be good.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know. I like the our NFL network analysts,

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00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: of course I do, but there does seem to be

1122
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: And tell me if I'm wrong. Mike silver Road a

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00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: great piece um yesterday takedown of what's going on in

1124
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay with players turning on Siano seeing Lee. But

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Speaker 1: it seems like now it's almost become open season and

1126
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: too easy to pile on Cianna. The pylon feeling during

1127
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: the postgame show was prevalent, and I'm just I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: if this is just something it's going to continue to

1129
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: snowball until he's just the biggest laughing stock in the league,

1130
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: unless Siana already is. I don't think he'll survive another

1131
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: month if if they're not winning games. Um I agree. Alright. So,

1132
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: speaking of Thursday Night Football, we we have in my

1133
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: upcoming End around Calm that will be up on Friday.

1134
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Speaker 1: The special guest rant this week is from Greg Rosenthal

1135
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: and the the topic Greg, Greg, what was the topic

1136
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: of your rant? It was on the pregame singer pri

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00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: Anka for Thursday Night Football hit a carriage? Wow, he

1138
00:58:51,160 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: see ways life. I'm just saying, she's just saying in

1139
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: the scene now every Thursday night. Yeah, we're at work.

1140
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm getting excited for the game, and then

1141
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: Prianka comes up on the screen and I get even

1142
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: more excited. I'm ready to go. Here comes to the

1143
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: course Puppet and I'm having a good time. Wesselen's there

1144
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: and they said, well, you have walking like through some

1145
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: type of futuristic landscape. I don't like the sound stage

1146
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: where like Darth maul f so who wouldn't like that?

1147
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: And I'm excited. But then next to me are our

1148
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 1: social media guys Dwayne and Bryce they run our Twitter

1149
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: account in the NFL, and they always tell me, oh,

1150
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: here come all the anti Prianka tweets. Everyone's tweeting at

1151
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. Who is this? Who is this woman? Prianka?

1152
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who she is. She's got four point

1153
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: eight million Twitter followers. It's almost more than the NFL,

1154
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: and everyone always forgets that fact exactly. She's an Indian

1155
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: film actress and singer who also wants the myth World

1156
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Speaker 1: Pageant Bollywood start. We're international and and you can have

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Speaker 1: you know, your other pregame singers. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: mention any name. I will Carrie Underwood has been essentially

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01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: just bought and sold by a gigantic corporate entity to

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Speaker 1: treat the population like a pack of drones. I am

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01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: going to approach NBC uh Dick embersoul approach Dick about

1162
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: redoing Carries intro for Sunday Night Football. It's a little stiff.

1163
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. You know, they don't

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Speaker 1: have in a great outfit the songs A little week Priakaka.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I like this song either. It's

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Speaker 1: not even about fall On. I talked with Dan about

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Speaker 1: this the other day because by the way, before Greg

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01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: unleashes his two bits on her in some post today.

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01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: We went into depth on Preanka earlier in the week

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Speaker 1: and I got a quote from Dan where he said

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Speaker 1: her song in quotes, has nothing to do with football,

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Speaker 1: and it's better suited for a tourism board. I know

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Speaker 1: you want to come to this, so you're coming around

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01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, though I like last year. I'll put

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Speaker 1: it that one. Well, that's fair. Well. Dan likes, you know,

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01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: vanilla ice cream, and he likes how salad and cheese,

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Speaker 1: pizza and Mark and I and Kristo, we like a

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Speaker 1: little flavor. We like some excitement. I mean, when comes

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: on there, it's a little there, you're a fan. I agree.

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: I like pizza as well. And that is not to

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01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 1: take away from carry Underwood, because I don't like Carrie

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: Underwood telling me that I have spent all of Sunday

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: just sitting around my house twiddling my thumbs waiting for

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Speaker 1: this game that starts at like eight thirty Eastern. Yeah,

1185
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: but that was like fat old white guy, and she

1186
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: just said, oh, I'll do whatever you need. You don't

1187
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Speaker 1: think Prianka said, let me have a little input in here.

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Speaker 1: Let's write about some lyrics that speak to something more

1189
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Speaker 1: important about the songwriting. Frankly, and by the way, the

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Speaker 1: song does have something to do with football. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about in my city. They're always going to someone else's

1192
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: city to play a game. It's pretty open ended. I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: the songwriting, let's not go songwriting one for this isn't

1194
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Speaker 1: Bob Dylan blood on the track. I mean it's getting close.

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Speaker 1: The NBC has it does have one of the best

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Speaker 1: lyrics of all time, one of the best little lines

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Speaker 1: Alan Chris, the best on TV. I mean, Greg sing

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Speaker 1: every podcast you can't pay. You can't pay for that

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Speaker 1: kind of lyricism, all right, And I think they did.

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Speaker 1: I think we're all kind of on the same page

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01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: with that. But I just thought, yeah, that was important

1202
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Speaker 1: that we addressed it. And if you want to read

1203
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: more about it, check out the end around today. But

1204
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: all right, I don't even know how to get out

1205
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: of that and transition. When did you get on our team?

1206
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Speaker 1: You you've been debating and well arguing about this. This

1207
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: is why is shaking his head too, because he wrote

1208
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: about Brianca first and he's upset that I'm I'm citing

1209
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: Greg as if you want To read more about it,

1210
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Speaker 1: read Mark Sessler's Game Rewind column. Are you happy actually

1211
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Speaker 1: talking about Prianka? Since last year when they didn't even

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Speaker 1: have her right before the game? They just had her

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Speaker 1: early in the pregame show and she was actually walking

1214
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Speaker 1: around your city is a little different now, it's Mark

1215
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Speaker 1: stretching my ego. Yes, are you happy that I plugged here?

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling good? All right, Let's move on big games

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Speaker 1: this week, Week eight, which is crazy that we're already

1218
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Speaker 1: at week eight, but we are. There are three of us,

1219
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Speaker 1: so we will We will detail our three favorite games

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Speaker 1: of the week. Then we'll roll through the rest of

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Speaker 1: the schedule. Um, Mark, let's start with you the Washington

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Speaker 1: Redskins and Denver Broncos. Broncos coming off their first lost

1223
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Speaker 1: of the season and the Redskins coming off a big

1224
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Speaker 1: win over the Bears. So there's a little life there.

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Speaker 1: What are you seeing there? You know? When it comes

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Speaker 1: to Denver, I like, I look at the opponents. What

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Speaker 1: is it they can do that might put some sort

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Speaker 1: of a hole into Denverse like defense strategy, because they've

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Speaker 1: been obviously unstoppable in terms of stopping Peyton Manning in

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Speaker 1: the offense, Jordan read last week for Washington, him and

1231
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: RG three had something going on. And honestly, RG three, yes,

1232
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Speaker 1: he's been playing a little bit of a better game

1233
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Speaker 1: each week. He finally has someone that I think that

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: really can cause Havoc. Reid looked almost unstoppable in Chicago's defense,

1235
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Speaker 1: not one of the best right now, had no answer

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Speaker 1: for him. And that's what they're gonna need. That connection

1237
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: is important for this game. For Washington even sort of

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Speaker 1: stay afloat. I'm not. I'm not. It's hard to look

1239
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Speaker 1: at any any Denver game and say, unless you can

1240
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Speaker 1: go out and score forty points, you don't have a shot.

1241
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: But why can't they score forty? I think they can,

1242
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: but it's you know, they did it last week. They

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Speaker 1: actually last week on offense for a little bit more

1244
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Speaker 1: dynamic than we've seen this season. Well what they were

1245
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: was two thousand twelve. They did the freed option the

1246
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Speaker 1: whole time, and Robert Griffin the third his burst his back.

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Speaker 1: If you watch the first play of that game where

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Speaker 1: he took the ball and started running, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: making people miss again and he is running by people

1250
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: and he looks like he's confident in that knee. Their

1251
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: offense looked just like it was last year. Well, there

1252
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: were still some of those passes from him though that

1253
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: we're real sketchy. He's not all the way back is

1254
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Speaker 1: a complete quarterback. I'm not buying Denver's defense as being

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Speaker 1: any good. No, I yeah, I think that the Redskins

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Speaker 1: are gonna score points, probably more than thirty. Um my,

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Speaker 1: only if I'm a Redskins fan. I'm a little bummed

1258
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Speaker 1: out that the way the schedule broke here too, because

1259
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Speaker 1: you know that that was an emotional win, beating the

1260
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Speaker 1: Bears the way they did, and instead of having a

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Speaker 1: chance to really start rolling, now you have a really

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01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: tough challenge going into Denver to face a Bronco's team.

1263
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: It's angry after getting beat You know, I have to

1264
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: take the Broncos in this game, but I do think

1265
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: it will be not to the levels of the Cowboy

1266
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: Bronco game. But I think we might have another shootout.

1267
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 1: But every game has been tough for Washington. To beat Denver,

1268
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: you need to have two guys on the edge that

1269
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: can beat Denver's tackles quickly get demanding. Washington has that

1270
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: they don't have anything else on defense. They certainly don't

1271
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: have anyone in the secondary that can lock up Denver

1272
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: one on one like the Colts did. But maybe the

1273
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: Colts gave people an idea what to do. Let's just

1274
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: hold these receivers and grab them and if you want

1275
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: to call ten penalties on us, maybe that's better than

1276
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: any other options. One last note von Miller another week

1277
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: of practice. I didn't think he looked especially you know,

1278
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have his game back last week against the Colts.

1279
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: I want to see what you can do because Washington's

1280
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: offensive line is a work in progress. And I want

1281
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: to see how that ball comes out of Peyton Manning's

1282
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: hand because it seemed a little odd last week. He

1283
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: says he's healthy. He missed a practice with an ankle issue,

1284
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: but he'll be playing and we'll see what happens. Let's

1285
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: move forward, um. The Miami Dolphins, once three and oh,

1286
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: now three and three are now trying to to get

1287
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: back over and they have to beat the New England Patriots, who,

1288
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: uh as Greg knows, was taken down by the New

1289
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: York Jets and overtime on Sunday. So we have a

1290
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: nice a f C S battle. Greg, what are you

1291
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: seeing here. Well, one of these teams is really gonna

1292
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: be hurting after this game. Either the Dolphins will have

1293
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: lost four straight games or the Patriots will have lost

1294
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: three of four games. Now, how many times has that

1295
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 1: happened in the Belichick Brady are I can't. I don't

1296
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: know if it's it's happened since two thousand one or

1297
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: maybe two thousand two. That's about it. And it's a

1298
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: game I'm not feeling that confident in as a Patriots

1299
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: fan because the Dolphins are gonna be in every game.

1300
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are still kind of figuring out

1301
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: what it is that they do well. I've watched Miami.

1302
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they've played that poorly the last few weeks.

1303
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: But this is one of those games to me that

1304
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: shapes the season. It's like every game is not equal

1305
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: in the season. If the Patriots win this game, maybe

1306
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: the Jets end up losing this week on the road

1307
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. It's like they're in control of the A

1308
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: See East. Everyone's catching up. It would be surprised if

1309
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots don't win. If the Patriots lose, I think

1310
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: it's just everybody's ballgame, and that's what kind of year

1311
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be a three maybe four

1312
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: team race, and everyone's got a chance. Well, and if

1313
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: the if the Patriots lose and the Jets take care

1314
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: of business, you gotta tie at the top of the

1315
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: ave ceast you do, and it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me.

1316
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: I think Miami's issues are correctable. Uh, their offensive line

1317
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: in Tannehill holding onto the ball too long was is problematic. Uh,

1318
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: the Patriots haven't had the greatest pass rush in the world.

1319
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: I think this will be a close game. And and

1320
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: just for if West was here, this would be the

1321
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: part where I make fun of Lamar Miller. But you know,

1322
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: I don't think their problems are correctable in the sense

1323
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: that all they could do right now to shore up

1324
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: their offensive line situation because Tyson Claybo not a starter

1325
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: anymore at this point is bringing Brian McKinney, who a

1326
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: year ago when they inserted Brian McKinney into the left

1327
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: tackle spot that helped Baltimore go on a run to

1328
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. This is not the same guy. Dan

1329
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: pointed out right way, very poignant. This guy is dangerous

1330
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: in South Beach. I don't like that combination. But you

1331
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: know what, You're right, the Patriots can't get a lot

1332
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: of pressure on the quarterback compared to some other teams.

1333
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't like Miami's long term situation here because Tannehill

1334
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: is getting killed week after week. A lot of it's

1335
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: on him, though, Greg Costell said that you know that

1336
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: he holds onto the ball too long. He's not been

1337
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: great coming off his first read. And for all the

1338
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: fantasy fans out there, there's no player that gets made

1339
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: fun of more than Daniel Thomas of the Miami Dolphin.

1340
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: No one understands why they play him. Watch last week's game.

1341
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: He played pretty well. They ran the ball very well.

1342
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 1: He that was the best I've ever seen him look,

1343
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if they have some effectiveness running. Okay,

1344
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: those are two teams coming off losses. Here are two

1345
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: teams coming off wins. The Jets going to Cincinnati to

1346
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: face the Bangals. This is another game that I think

1347
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: could be very close. And I think for me, it

1348
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: goes back to, you know, if you believe in Andy

1349
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: Dalton and he's on a nice run in these last

1350
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: few weeks. But something tells me, and this is not

1351
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: because I'm a Jets man just because what I've seen

1352
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: from Dalton in a big picture and what I've seen

1353
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: from this Jets defense, I got a feeling Dalton's gonna

1354
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of problems on Sunday. Well, however, for

1355
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: the Jets and I and I think this is a

1356
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: This is a tough game for Cincinnati to walk in

1357
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: and take control of. But New York also has done

1358
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: this thing where they go out and impress. You play

1359
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: a game like that Falcons game where it's like this

1360
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: team is legit. They go out the next week and

1361
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: get dropped by the Steelers, come back last week, beat

1362
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots. So can they win win two in a row?

1363
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: They haven't done that in a long long time. They

1364
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: haven't done it this season. Win one, lose one every week. Yeah,

1365
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 1: and you know, and it goes back to Geno Smith,

1366
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: a Geno coaster. There is a very there is a

1367
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: possibility that the Jets win seventeen fourteen. And it's a

1368
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: close game. It's also can turn into if you know,

1369
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: if there was a pick six, there was a couple

1370
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: more picks, loses, a fumble. You just never know what

1371
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna go get week to week but you know,

1372
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: as a Jet fan, what you hang on too is

1373
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: each time he has these big boy wins and the

1374
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: pat It's one certainly qualifies as well that maybe we

1375
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: get further from the bad Gino and but you don't

1376
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: know until until we see it. But that's exactly what

1377
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: Costell said, is that some of the mistakes are because

1378
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: of a good trade in Gino. That the guy aggressively

1379
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: throws the ball downfield. He's not afraid to take shots,

1380
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: which you know quarterbacks that are, and I think the

1381
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: Dalton maybe falls more in that category. A guy like

1382
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: Gino is gonna reduce the mistakes, but he's not gonna

1383
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: he He didn't shy away from being a risky player.

1384
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: And I think the Jets are completely different offense because

1385
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback in Mark Sanchez isn't And all the

1386
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: games where Gino has played so well, he's had a

1387
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: ton of time and that's gonna be hard to find

1388
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. But the thing to hold onto for Jets

1389
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: fans is tell me the win where the Bengals, you know,

1390
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: ran away and hide hit. This year, it hasn't happened.

1391
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: Every one of their five wins is by one score.

1392
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: All of them came down to the last possession. There

1393
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: are five and two teams. They are not dominant. They

1394
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: play every game tight, and in a tight game, some

1395
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: crazy things can happen. I think it's really is a

1396
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: Dalton thing for perception, because if you had a different

1397
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: type of quarterback in there, we would think about Cincinnati

1398
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: in a different way. They've had some impressive victories well,

1399
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: but but crazy, you know, against the Packers, so many

1400
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: crazy things happened in that game. Every you know, against

1401
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: Detroit last week, it's a great last minute come back,

1402
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: but they're all by three points and they count as wins.

1403
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: But it's not like they're going out there in their drillings.

1404
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: This is quietly the game of the week because whoever

1405
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: wins this is in a great situation. I agree. I'm

1406
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: a little nervous about gotta say fells a little nervous.

1407
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: All right. So this is a weird week, by the way,

1408
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: because for the first time all season, we have no

1409
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: hero picks. But we also spent five minutes talking about

1410
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: Prianka Chopra, so that that made it weird. Yeah, well

1411
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 1: that made it especially weird. But so there are no

1412
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: hero picks. Actually there was one right, Kevin patra or

1413
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: Chicago Correspondent. But other than that, um, you know, we

1414
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: all kind of had similar picks throughout the week, and

1415
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: in general, no one's gonna go crazy about when we

1416
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: give Kevin an eerie amount of low attention on this show. Well,

1417
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: Kevin took the Giants. Were split on a few games,

1418
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: like you guys. For instance, guys, we both took the Jets.

1419
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't too surprised because like, but I

1420
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: took the Bengals. But so let's go through the rest

1421
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: of these games. Um, not a ton of winners, but

1422
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: we're just gonna keep rolling. That's what we do here.

1423
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 1: Uh and we will start with Greg uh. Sell it

1424
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: to me, Greg, San Francisco, Jacksonville Jaguars are watching Colin

1425
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: Kaepernick is about as fun a quarterback to watch as possible.

1426
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: When he's rolling and they're starting to use him on

1427
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: the ground a little more, he's making some nice throws

1428
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: down the field to Bolden and Davis. I think that

1429
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,839
Speaker 1: was the most impressive part of his game against Tennessee

1430
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: was he finally started hitting those vertical chunk plays, as

1431
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: Greg Cosel would call him, like he did when he

1432
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: first started, like in the Chicago game last night, when

1433
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: he last year when he broke out, And so that's

1434
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for to keep that passing game Owen.

1435
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: Frank Gore, the inconvenient truth, just does it again. Completely

1436
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: overachieves every single season. He leads the league and runs

1437
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: twenty yards or more. So, if you want to talk

1438
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: about big playmakers at running back, by definition, Frank Gore

1439
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: is the guy this year. Does he overachieve or is

1440
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: he underappreciated? Well, he's thirty now and you kind of

1441
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: expected him to start giving up carries and it never happens.

1442
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: You know. One thing with San Francisco, Yeah, they went

1443
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: back to some runs out of the pistol last week,

1444
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: which we haven't seen a lot of. There. Progress on

1445
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: offense over the last four weeks has been impressive. And

1446
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: in a in a couple of weeks from now they

1447
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: get Manning him back and Crabtree and then you got

1448
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: that Seattle game coming up a couple of weeks after that.

1449
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: I like the way that they're sort of peeking in

1450
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: the at the right time. Yeah. And on the Jaguard side,

1451
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: I'll say yes, Blaine Gabbard has taken over or excuse me, Chad,

1452
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: Henny has taken over blame. There a difference exactly. I'm

1453
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: not gonna put too much stock into it. They're gonna

1454
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in May either way, but good luck

1455
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: with all that, Chad. Can we also get a ruling?

1456
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: Is it Corey Lemon Wax or Corey Lemon yea? Because

1457
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna have to be saying this

1458
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: guy's name the rest of the season because he's one

1459
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: of the best young pass wrestlers in football. He shows

1460
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: up every week. Crystal looked at him. Yeah, no ruling

1461
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: at this time. Okay, Ritchie, can you get on that.

1462
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: I know this is crazy, but they haven't missed Alden

1463
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 1: Smith that much. Maybe it's because of the opponents, but

1464
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: it's also because because of Corey. We'll just call him

1465
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: by his first name, all right. So here's this is UM.

1466
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: This is another. This is a good game. Dallas Cowboys

1467
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: and Detroit Lions. UM. Two teams that personally, I'm having

1468
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue trying to like peg

1469
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: whether they're good or mediocre or what. But we'll get

1470
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: a good We'll get a good idea of both teams. Here.

1471
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush today By the way, Friday held out of

1472
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: practice with some type of leg issues. Right leg, yep,

1473
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: that is something to keep an eye on. Um. But listen,

1474
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys if they can get this win, they are

1475
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: rolling and the Lions get to win. I don't know

1476
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: what do you guys think. I don't even know how

1477
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: to break this one down. Let's be honest. I've got

1478
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: them pegged. I think they're both slightly above average teams

1479
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: that can beat anyone on a given week and have

1480
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: two of the best ten quarterbacks in the league. They're

1481
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: They're done for the rest of you know. This is

1482
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 1: a game that at the beginning of the year I

1483
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: would have thought would be a real troubling one for

1484
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because of Detroit's pass rush against what I

1485
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: thought would be a Cowboys line that just wasn't up

1486
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: to par. But they've actually Dallas's line I think has

1487
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: played well and and that's gonna be an interesting matchup

1488
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: to me to see how can they keep Tony Romo safe.

1489
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 1: Romo in recent seasons has done really well against the

1490
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: Lions defense. Why did you guys take the Cowboys. We've

1491
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: been riding the Lions bandwagon all year and then one

1492
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,839
Speaker 1: Rocky game last week, and you guys get I actually

1493
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: have gotten a lot of games wrong pick against Detroit,

1494
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: so I haven't been on that train. And I think

1495
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: the Dallas is this team that, honestly I look at

1496
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: it around the NFC outside of Seattle in San Francisco,

1497
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: they could beat anyone, and yet they could lose to

1498
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: anyone too, and I just it's a it's a coin flup.

1499
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: I have some personal demons with the Cowboys because over

1500
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: the last couple of years I've gotten behind them and

1501
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: stuck with them and thinking they would turn things around

1502
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: and they would always let me down. This year, I

1503
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: kind of went the opposite direction. I picked them not

1504
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and I picked against them a

1505
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: lot this year, and it hasn't worked out for me.

1506
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna maybe gently get aboard the Cowboys bandwagon

1507
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: and see where it's not gonna work out for you again.

1508
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: I feel like this is it's an even matchup, but

1509
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: I feel like Detroit has been a better team overall.

1510
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: I think they can hurt you in in more ways.

1511
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the Dallas defense just because they played

1512
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: well in Philadelphia is something that I'm not afraid if

1513
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: Bush doesn't play, though, because when in Week three when

1514
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: they played the Redskins, they were a completely different offense

1515
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: and a bad way when Bush wasn't on the field.

1516
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: I like Bell to some degree as a as a

1517
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: stand in, but that would be a big loss. And

1518
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: and Bush was not looking healthy than of last week.

1519
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: And you mentioned lack of respect for Kevin Patrick. How

1520
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: about lacquer respect for this game. This might be the

1521
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: best game of the week right here, and it didn't

1522
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 1: get in the top section. A little surprising, Let's admit it. Um,

1523
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Mark got you know, not

1524
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: a ton to say about this game. But since it

1525
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: is your Cleveland Browns, they're going to Kansas City try

1526
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: to knock off the undefeated Chiefs. Jason Campbell behind center.

1527
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: Now as the merry go Round goes round and round

1528
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, your thoughts, You know, I look at this

1529
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 1: game and two of the better young defense is Kansas

1530
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: City made up the NFL's best defense. And in Cleveland,

1531
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: not unlike Tampa, the wheels could come off if they

1532
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: don't get their act together here because they're not scoring points.

1533
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: On the other side, I don't like Jason Campbell going

1534
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: into Arrowhead Stadium, which is probably one of the toughest

1535
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: places to play in football right now. And the Chiefs,

1536
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, they're a tough watch, but they take care

1537
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: of business. I don't like Jay and Campbell going into

1538
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: any stadium Jason Campbell period. Well, I'm not suggesting. I'm

1539
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: not suggesting that any of the other thirty one stadiums

1540
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: would be a better place for him to play, but

1541
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: this really is a rough first go. It might be

1542
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 1: easier than being at home though. Frankly, actually, oh man,

1543
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: it's funny because he's kind of similar to Brandon Weeden,

1544
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: isn't he sure? We'll listen, they've got an arm and

1545
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 1: he takes forever to make a decision and throw them.

1546
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: Didn't they do everything humanly possible to not play Jason

1547
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: Campbell this season? Yeah? They did. I mean, they originally

1548
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: brought him in to compete for the starting job, and

1549
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: it became quickly clear they didn't want him to play

1550
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: at all. And then they brought in Hoyer and they

1551
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: basically got buried. Do you see this as a game

1552
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: that could be weird and be sort of a fourteen

1553
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: thirteen or seventeen type thirteen game? I think the Browns

1554
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: have the defense to keep Alex Smith and check for sure.

1555
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: So yeah. And and Jason Campbell, he's not he doesn't

1556
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: get you excited. But he's also a guy that's to

1557
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: be very conservative, so you probably won't throw the game away.

1558
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: So you could be if you're looking for a win,

1559
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: if you're looking for hope as a Browns fan, I'm

1560
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: thinking win as your only shot. I think you need

1561
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: a Travis Benjamin something strange like that. How about Anataia

1562
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: Reuben seven yard fumble return? I like that man with

1563
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: football for a touch Last week, Case Keenum went in

1564
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: there and the Texans were in that game to the

1565
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: last second. The Chiefs, as good as they've been, generally

1566
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: don't put a team away until the fourth court. It's

1567
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: usually close. And if the last word on this, if

1568
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,799
Speaker 1: you guys would um, if the Browns don't pull upset

1569
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: off there staring down a five game losing streak, because

1570
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: after this game a home to Ravens and at Bengals,

1571
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: and you know, it's real tough. It could be a

1572
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: tough situation. Um, all right, Moving on the Buffalo Bills,

1573
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, uh spiller, it looks like they're finally

1574
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna sit c J. Spiller, whose ankle is still not right.

1575
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,959
Speaker 1: We're not sure on that, but that's there's been speculation

1576
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: and that Maron is gonna try to get Spiller healthy.

1577
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: You know, the Saints are the favorite in this game.

1578
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: Do Is there anyway the Bills pulling upset off Greig?

1579
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: It's got to be very tough, but they're a defense

1580
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: that can give the Saints offense problems. And I don't

1581
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: think the Saints offense has been quite as explosive as

1582
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: they have been in previous years. And I think this

1583
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: Bill's defense comes to play each week, and so they've

1584
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: got a chance to slow him down. I think they're

1585
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: gonna have to run the ball well against New Orleans,

1586
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: and I think they'll be able to. You know, c J.

1587
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: Spiller's doubtful officially for the game, so I wouldn't be

1588
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: surprised if he doesn't even make the trip. I think

1589
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson has shown he can take over year after year.

1590
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: Is there a more underrated player than Fred Jackson in

1591
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: the NFL? Well, and I kind of like this backfield

1592
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: when it isn't two or three guys splitting carries. It

1593
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: might be I'm not sure it changes that much because

1594
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: Spiller's had his issues this season. I'm interesting that Lewis

1595
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: because you know what, for a guy that was on

1596
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: the practice squad a month ago, he's actually we played

1597
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: very well. I don't even think I'm done giving Fred

1598
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: Jackson some love, so you keep going. When there was

1599
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: a fantasy when I was, you know, at road World,

1600
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: and we did fantasy. It's very hard for a player

1601
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: to be undervalued year after year because usually people just

1602
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: kind of wise up to it, and every year you thought, well,

1603
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: this is the year Fred Jackson's not gonna do it something.

1604
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: They always have these high priced you know running backs

1605
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: with him Willis mcgahey, now it c J. Spiller, whoever

1606
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: that Marshall Lynch was there, who you expect to be

1607
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: better than Fred Jackson and in the end he never is.

1608
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: And think he's coming off a devastating injury. He's out

1609
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: of Coke College line up, the careers Fred Jackson versus

1610
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, similar players, who has had the better career.

1611
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: If he wasn't stuck in Buffalo, this guy would be

1612
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 1: a star. Let me have me some Fred Jackson. So

1613
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: let's say there, it's a station wagon in Buffalo, and

1614
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: you have the option to drive from Buffalo to Los

1615
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: Angeles with Fred Jackson or pri UNKA. What road trip

1616
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: do you pick? He just got He didn't get out

1617
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: of the chair for I don't know. You taking Priana

1618
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: for the car trip. I'm taking Fred Jackson to win

1619
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. There's different questions. And by the way,

1620
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: the one thing I have to say about this um

1621
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: and I say this a lot because I don't consider

1622
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,959
Speaker 1: myself one beware of experts, because back in August, anybody

1623
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: who read that's reviewed as a respectable football guy was

1624
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: saying Fred Jackson was shot and he wasn't moving and

1625
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: he was gonna be phased out of that offense. And

1626
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: he lives. He's twenty five catches already this year for

1627
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson four and a half yards. I just he's

1628
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: a fun player. All right. Let's move on, Mark, NFC

1629
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 1: e Showdown. I know you love the NFC East Mark.

1630
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: The Giants finally gotta win there, going into Philadelphia now

1631
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: to play the Eagles, and Michael Vick should be back

1632
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: in the lineup. What are you seeing here? You know,

1633
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 1: I think this is this a bad turn of events

1634
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: for the Giants because Vick's last game was against New York.

1635
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: He went out just before halftime and had seventy nine

1636
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: yards rushing on the ground. They did all they could

1637
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: to shut down la Shawn McCoy and did actually a

1638
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: a job of that because they ignored any sort of

1639
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: option play. They just went right at McCoy. But Vic

1640
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: went wild before getting hurt. And you know, I think

1641
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: that this offense is a little bit more dynamic in

1642
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: terms of what it can do with Vick. Obviously, Folds

1643
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: two weeks ago looked really good. Last week it was

1644
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: a disaster. I'm kind of glad we're not starring at

1645
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: some quarterback controversy there. Ride it out with Vic for now.

1646
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: The guy probably won't be back next season. In terms

1647
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: of this game, how do you pick the Giants? They

1648
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: beat a very bad Vikings team and what it might

1649
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: have been the most boring game we've seen in ages. Wait,

1650
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: weren't you riding the Nick Foles bandwagon seven days ago?

1651
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: I think that was me? I know, but Folds looked

1652
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: very good against the Bucks. But but what we saw

1653
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, I think it's squelched any sort of Hey,

1654
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: who should start here? He was not ready Giants defense

1655
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: showed some signs they're stopping the run like cap and

1656
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul is coming off his best game of

1657
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: the season by far. But there's not much reason to

1658
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 1: be eve that this isn't one of the worst teams

1659
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 1: in And that wasn't that Monday night went over. The

1660
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 1: Vikings wasn't a cure all. And it wasn't a game

1661
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: where it's like, ah, that's the Giant team that we

1662
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 1: thought was going to show up. They didn't play a

1663
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 1: great game. It's just the Vikings were completely flat. That

1664
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: actually felt like you were watching a preseason game. It

1665
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: was a very odd Monday when I feel like this

1666
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: is a comment from six and a half years ago,

1667
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 1: but without Brandon Jacobs. I don't like New York's ability

1668
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: to run the ball. Yeah, he actually played really well

1669
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: two weeks. Peyton Hillis rumble it into the end zone

1670
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: at the medal. Hills was probably New York's best player

1671
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: on offense last week and he's still had less than

1672
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: three yards to Anybody picked the Giants. Kevin Patrick has

1673
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: hero pick with the Giants. I picked the Eagles to

1674
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: win this division before the season started, and I feel

1675
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: like they are hanging by a thread. They're getting propped

1676
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: up by beating some bad teams, and they're really they're

1677
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: struggling to find themselves and not playing well. This is

1678
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: the game they have to get to get the four

1679
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: and for yes, all right, Moving forward the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1680
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: who are halfway out of the own four hole they dug.

1681
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: They've back to back win is, including a big one

1682
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: over the Ravens on Sunday. They now travel to the

1683
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Black Hole to face the Raiders. You know this is

1684
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: this is another interesting game. I really the Steelers. I

1685
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get back into this race. I think

1686
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: that when they play the Ravens again in a few

1687
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: weeks it's gonna mean something. But they basically they're gonna

1688
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 1: kind of need this win. The Raiders have been tougher

1689
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: than people imagine, especially at home. What are you guys

1690
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: seeing on this listen, We've got wes Chris Westling unscheduled

1691
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: to eat his softball pants. If the Raiders win six games,

1692
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 1: this is a winnable game for them. They would be

1693
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 1: three and four after seven outings. That has to put

1694
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,560
Speaker 1: Westling on some hot turn. He already said he was

1695
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: nervous after the Chargers win for the Raiders, so this

1696
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: would put him in very dangerous ground. I do think

1697
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers will win this game, though they have three

1698
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: winnable games coming up Oakland does. None of us is

1699
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: buying their resurgence. Defensively, none of us picked them. We

1700
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: see Pittsburgh getting back into the mix. It's amazing that

1701
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: they've only had one game this year they've forced to turnover.

1702
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: If they weren't negative their negative ten and turnover margin,

1703
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: If they weren't negative ten, they'd be a pretty good team.

1704
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger was on the Rich Eisen podcast this week. Uh,

1705
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: we encourage you to tune in and check that out.

1706
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: But he he said that the an ability to force

1707
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 1: turnovers and the propensity to have turners turnovers on offense

1708
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: was like they were shooting themselves in both feet, which

1709
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: I thought was kind of a smart way to put it.

1710
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So that's really when you put those two

1711
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: things together, makes it makes sense why they were owing four.

1712
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: But I agree. I think that they're gonna win this game,

1713
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: but it will be close. It should be close, right

1714
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh finally can run the ball with Levan Bell,

1715
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: you know. He he looked really good actually last week.

1716
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: And a funny thing from Big Ben. He he goes

1717
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 1: on radio, he's got a weekly radio show and says

1718
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: that because they've been running some wildcat uh, and they

1719
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: they aren't being critiqued like the Jets, so that's not fair.

1720
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 1: But they're having Big Ben shootout to play wide receiver

1721
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: on these plays. And he's already complained saying that he's

1722
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: too tired to do that, too tired to split out

1723
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: and play wide receiver twice a game. That doesn't surprise me.

1724
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: One thing we we mentioned, we mentioned last Sunday watching

1725
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: I remember when Ben Roethlisberg. You know, he was never

1726
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: a speed demon, but when he would get in the

1727
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: open field, he would run pretty well. He has lost

1728
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot of speed, a lot of RPMs often. Um,

1729
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. The Atlanta Falcons are heading

1730
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 1: to Arizona to play the Cardinals. Uh. You know, the

1731
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: Falcons have reached a point similar to the Steelers, where

1732
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: they're kind of in must win territory in October, which

1733
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: is never a great place to be. The Cardinals, you know,

1734
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that we could be staring at

1735
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: another six and ten team over in the in the

1736
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: desert there, Mark, what are you seeing here? I don't

1737
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: like any game where the Cardinals have to face any

1738
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: sort of a pass rush. But this might be a

1739
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: team in Atlanta that really can't do that, and so

1740
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: maybe Carson Palmer isn't just a sitting duck back there.

1741
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: But I watched the Falcons last week. It's the game

1742
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: that we covered on Sunday, and everyone says Matt Ryan

1743
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: Not everyone, but the critique on Matt Ryan is listening.

1744
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: If you didn't have so much talent around him, he'd

1745
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: be a very average quarterback. I'd say nonsense to that,

1746
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 1: because you know what, you don't have Steven Jacks Pocock.

1747
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: You don't I say poppy cock to that. Dan, you

1748
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: don't have Roddy White, you don't have Julio Jones. And

1749
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: he turns start. He made you know, Harry Douglas into

1750
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: a star last week, and I thought that they did

1751
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: a real nice job moving the ball, converting, converting. I like,

1752
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: we're on the same Pointessler point of the day. It's over.

1753
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: Sessler won it. Very nice visual for the podcast. Is

1754
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: there a harder game to predict? Though? I did think

1755
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: about this more than any other game this week. I

1756
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: ended up going with the Falcons just because every week

1757
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: I watched Matt Ryan and think he's playing great and

1758
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 1: it's hard to pick against him going against car Spot.

1759
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: But you're right, this is a matchup of weakness on week. Yes,

1760
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: the Falcons defense is one of the worst five groups

1761
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: in the league. I would say, uh, and going up

1762
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: against Carson Palmer, I don't expect this to be a blout.

1763
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: They do get Steven Jackson back. No Roddy White, no

1764
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: holiwood Jones, of course, but they do get Steven Jackson back.

1765
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 1: I wish Larah FitzGeralds was healthy this year. I was

1766
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: really excited that we were gonna be the revitalized season.

1767
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: But now he's got this hamstring, he's not playing at

1768
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: full speed and that that obviously makes a big difference.

1769
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: One guy that you know, we all talked him up.

1770
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: I think he was making the leap candidate, Michael Floyd

1771
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: has been a little quiet this year. They could use thing,

1772
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: They could use a little more from him. Started off well,

1773
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: it's hard to know. It's hard to evaluate those wide

1774
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: receivers when Carson Palmers throwing the ball and they have

1775
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: no time to throw all right, let's move forward. The

1776
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, who are in first place in the

1777
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: NFC North. Congratulation boys, uh, They will face the woeful

1778
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings um who are now start back to Christian

1779
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: Ponder after Josh Freeman suffered that mysterious concussion. This doesn't

1780
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 1: seem like it's gonna be close, is it correct. It's

1781
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: weird that Freeman practice not sorry to dodge your question,

1782
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't think. I don't think

1783
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: it will be a close game. To answer your question,

1784
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: I think the Packers defense is peaking. I think Christian

1785
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: Ponder gives the Vikings a much better chance than Josh

1786
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 1: Freeman would at this stage. So that's a positive for

1787
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: them and the Packers. That's also a dramatic negative. Yeah,

1788
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: it's not a good time. And the Packers have had

1789
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: trouble winning in Minnesota in recent years, a lot of

1790
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: trouble winning in Minnesota, so you know, who knows. They

1791
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: haven't been able to stop Adrian Peterson. But the Freeman

1792
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: situation is more interesting to me. It's weird that he

1793
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: returned to practice, but he won't be active for the game.

1794
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 1: We have Ross Tucker writing a column that players in

1795
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: that Vikings locker room will probably fair or not. Wonder

1796
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: what happened with this Freeman concussion, whether you know he

1797
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: made the choice to do it, whether he basically asked

1798
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: that we in this situation again, or speculating what's going

1799
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: on with Josh Freeman behind the scenes. Uh, you're not, Dan,

1800
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: You're not. I'm just enticed by that story board of it.

1801
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 1: But it's worthy of discussion. I'm not sure where this

1802
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: goes though. I don't know if we're going to see

1803
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: Freeman be the starter this year for Minnesota or not.

1804
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I mean, it could it might

1805
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: end up just being ponder again for a while. Well,

1806
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: and it's almost like you could see Freeman at some

1807
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: point just getting released. I mean, it's like the thing

1808
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 1: could spiral into a dark place. You know, we just

1809
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 1: talked about Matt Ryan, who is able to take anyone

1810
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: it looks like last week and and turn them into

1811
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: productive players. That's what I see from no one better

1812
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 1: than Aaron Rodgers, because you know, against Cleveland, a pretty

1813
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 1: good defense last week with a ton of guys out,

1814
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: he just carved them up. He had his way with them,

1815
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 1: and it's it's uh, there's no quarterback that does it

1816
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: anywhere to the same level. It's it's it's too early

1817
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: to flex games out on Sunday night apparently, because uh

1818
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: yeah it is. Alan Chris are stuck with this game.

1819
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: There there's some much better ones, but it is what

1820
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: it is. I think I think the Packers have to

1821
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: be thrilled that they could get the five and two

1822
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: after you know, considering the injuries they've had. Who knows

1823
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: if they'll get to Michael Finley back, but they will

1824
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: get Randall Cob eventually Rowdy to form. So it's carry

1825
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: on and we're gonna try to tell us that we're

1826
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: excited about this game. It's gonna be a tough sell

1827
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 1: for Carrie. She's constantly off, you know, She's just I'm

1828
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: not buying it all right, by the way, I'm just

1829
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm just curious real quick because we're running a little

1830
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: low on time Vikings final record this season. I'm just

1831
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: curious for you guys think, uh, three and thirteen sounds

1832
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: about right. I will go four and twelve of them.

1833
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: Another quarterback, okay, and what moves us to the last

1834
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: game of the week Seattle Seahawks, who you know, may

1835
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: or may not have Percy Harvin uh travel to St.

1836
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: Louis to face Kellen Clemens and the ramsom man Uh.

1837
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 1: Speaking of prime time announcers, you have John Gruden and

1838
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: Mike threeco that they can't be thrilled about this one, no,

1839
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: because it's it's also opposite the World Series in St.

1840
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: Louis that night, right, which it's pretty brutal. Right, you

1841
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: took that the loss by the Socks last night pretty well.

1842
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: I thought that's the only game two here. You know,

1843
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: Kellen Clemens, I'm excited about him. Well, you know what,

1844
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: like when you look at Seattle, I think that watching

1845
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because we got a Seattle Arizona game two

1846
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: thursdays ago, which that wasn't necessarily the sexiest matchup of

1847
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: the year, but they're fun to watch, and Russell Wilson

1848
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: like they're starting to do more and more with him

1849
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: on offense. It looks a little bit like last year

1850
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: to me, where they're getting their kind of act together

1851
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: in terms of scheme. We're not too far away from

1852
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 1: Percy Harvin coming back. This team is tough to beat,

1853
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: and they just learned how valuable Sam Bradford is because

1854
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 1: as much as they dogged him. Now it's like the

1855
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: season is over because Kellen Clemens is your quarterback, but

1856
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: you do you did find a little something in Zach

1857
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: Stacy and I love watching this guy. He actually reminds

1858
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: me a little bit of a young Frank Gore because

1859
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 1: he's a three down back. He's powerful, but he's really

1860
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: good on passing down, very comfortable catching the ball. He

1861
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: he looks like a starting running back if you didn't

1862
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 1: know he was a late round pick. He reminds me

1863
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 1: a lot of a little He reminds me Frank Gore

1864
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: when the Niners didn't know how to run an offense

1865
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: and he was the one thing sitting there. And until

1866
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,600
Speaker 1: that team learns how to get someone in there that

1867
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: can make the most of not only the quarterback, for

1868
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: the other positions, the Rams are gonna be this three

1869
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 1: and four, three and five team year after year. And

1870
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want to see a

1871
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: Zack's Stacy showcase Monday night, probably won't be at least

1872
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: as a rusher because you know the Rams will be

1873
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: done at the end of the first quarter. Just watch him,

1874
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: all right, that's it for the game's k Rich. What's

1875
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 1: going on? Behind the glass. Everything's good. Looking forward to

1876
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: my Giants Philly matchup? All right, good luck with that. Hey, um,

1877
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,560
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, is it possible to get him on the

1878
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: horn because it's gotta take care of some housekeeping here. Hey, Wes,

1879
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: I'm good. What's going on? What's going on? Buddy? Welcome

1880
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: to uh, welcome to your podcast in my podcast. Thanks?

1881
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 1: What's going on over there? Uh? Just about ready to

1882
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 1: get on the road and go to Santa Barbara? Who

1883
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: with my friend Aaron. Oh okay, that sounds good. That

1884
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: sounds like a nice weekend you got planned you know it,

1885
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 1: seduction Friday, Friday and like the five of you include

1886
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 1: k Richie and of course while the interns and taking

1887
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: me under your wing and showing me the way I

1888
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 1: was stuck in seduction Saturday and that wasn't working for me.

1889
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm a new man. Well, when you head up

1890
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 1: to Santa Barbara on seduction Friday, there really are no limits.

1891
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: We should mention that Aaron is a woman. Yes, yes,

1892
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 1: it's not important though not be progressive market. I met

1893
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 1: her last night. She's loving Well you look, Chris has

1894
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: to relieve some stress because it's been a controversial week. Listen,

1895
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, good transition. Greg, Listen, West. We got to

1896
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:54,640
Speaker 1: talk about this when West's toaster. Um, you know, I

1897
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 1: declared Sham from Sacramento the winner based on that last

1898
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: question on Wednesday in which you said Reggie Wayne had

1899
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: the second longest active streak, Uh games played. I said

1900
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: you were wrong, but you were right. It was Reggie Wayne.

1901
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: And at first I just want to offer a humble

1902
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: apology to you. No apology necessary, all right, I think

1903
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: it's totally necessary to Greig as I rate, and we'll

1904
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: get to why. Yeah, and number two, Uh, this is

1905
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 1: something we need to address. So the decision has been made.

1906
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 1: The committee, the when West is Toaster committee has met.

1907
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: They've come to a conclusion that you will remain the champion.

1908
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: And this is again apologies to Shaman Sacramento. Sean will

1909
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: get his toaster, but West will West. Shan will get

1910
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: a toaster of his choice, but West will keep his toaster.

1911
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: And this is the I'm not sure, and but this

1912
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: is this is the one caveat and I will run

1913
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: it by West. It will be up to his people

1914
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 1: to decide when it comes time to defend your hoast.

1915
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: He again, Sean gets the first crack, Oh, that's that

1916
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: sounds good to me. And the record, I don't have

1917
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: people he is that West is a lone wolf. Nobody

1918
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: is more upset about this development, and which I think

1919
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: you know, as a podcast we've handled well then, Greg,

1920
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: who has nothing but uttered disdain for the franchise of

1921
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 1: wind Wests tost ship. But you know what, it's back.

1922
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: It's bigger than it was before and it's not going away.

1923
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: It's all just seems a little suspicious. Remember if I

1924
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: don't know, if you've ever seen the movie Quiz Show,

1925
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: you know a lot of rigging in the game shows

1926
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,560
Speaker 1: back in the fifties and sixties. Finally it was like

1927
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 1: West had lost and now we come back and there's well,

1928
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: the world is not pure. I'm sorry. You know, the

1929
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 1: headline here would be area man fallible and that's me.

1930
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: I messed up everyone. You know, I owned up to

1931
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 1: my mistake the game a lot of there's a lot

1932
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 1: of buzz about the game nationally, Greg, you gotta admit, well,

1933
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: unlike DAMNAE Chick, but leave that you have to jerrymander

1934
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 1: things around to get manufactured drama and controversy actually has

1935
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: a natural controversy we came to this through uh, no

1936
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 1: nefarious purposes whatsoever. Um Wesleyan was shockingly possessive of this toaster, though.

1937
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: I I thought, of course, we have to send Sean

1938
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 1: the toaster. It's our fault that we got it wrong.

1939
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 1: And he is getting a toaster, Crystal, you made sure

1940
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: that right. Yeah, he's getting his toaster. But West will

1941
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: still have the one of a kind Team toaster, which

1942
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: we can't find anywhere now. So this really is valuable.

1943
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: And West who has never actually opened this toaster, did

1944
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 1: not want to give it up. He was He felt

1945
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: that very smartly. I just like that Greg is saying

1946
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,560
Speaker 1: that it was our mistake and not mine. Greg, you

1947
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: don't understand the possessiveness here because you don't understand the

1948
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: value of the toaster on a symbolic level. Guys, I

1949
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 1: have a picture giving away the Lombardi trophies. I have

1950
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: a picture of Westley kissing the toaster. I might have

1951
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: to tweet that all today. I think you definitely should.

1952
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 1: Might be like that thing where Sean Payton slept with

1953
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 1: the Lombardi trophy the night after the Super Boy. Hey, West,

1954
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun, man plan on doing that?

1955
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: Come back on Sunday because we do need you to

1956
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: do NFL related activities. All right, we'll be bad and sorry,

1957
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: get Saturday night to hang out with you guys if

1958
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: you want. All right, that sounds good, and sorry again

1959
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: about the toaster and congratulations on retaining your title. I'll

1960
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 1: be it in controversial matter. I appreciate it. You boys

1961
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 1: have fun, all right? All right, so we should get

1962
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,560
Speaker 1: out of here. We're starting to turn these podcasts into marathons.

1963
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: We will try to get better with that next week, uh,

1964
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 1: starting Sunday where we will listen to that music, where

1965
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: we will recap all of all of the games and uh,

1966
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: you know we'll do our thing. Uh. This is Dan

1967
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: Hansis signing off for the Sizzler, the Boss, k Rich

1968
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: behind the Glass and Lyle the a t L Intern

1969
01:40:50,680 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: until Sunday. But I know you're gonna like it in

1970
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 1: my sad Everybody's welcomely everybody wancos my sand We got

1971
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 1: the Worry's here. I know you're gonna like it in

1972
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 1: my sad way. You know you w