1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Now Welcome in Lake Kick is Live. It is Thursday night, 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: February tenth. Dear Our Lord, twenty twenty two. Jam packed 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: high at top downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Look into the left 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: and right. Make it sure no news breaks. We are 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: due to have a trained wreck of the show. We 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: are due to have major news break during a show. 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams spared us. Brian Harrison so far has spared us. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: So every finger in the building crossed. We are jam 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: packed tonight. We're going to get you the very latest 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: out of Auburn. Got some things that have been said 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: over the course of the week. Certainly it was a 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: busy day on the streets of Birmingham, as most days 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: in Birmingham tend to be. But all the SEC coaches 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: were in town today and that means as of this moment, 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Brian Harrison at Auburn, we're going to go all the 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: way out to the west coast, something I've been accused 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: of not doing nearly enough. We will do it tonight 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: with the USC mood Tracker. I'm really interested by some 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: of the mail bag questions, so we're going to backload 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: the show with some of them tonight. We've been getting 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: great response about what we've been doing with the Late 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast, and we've put some of that video 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel and you've received it. So we're 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: gonna keep doing it. But tonight some of the questions 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: we couldn't get in the last one I saw fit 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: to put in the show tonight. For instance, did you 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: know that Oklahoma just changed a coaching staff and still 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: finished with the top ten recruiting class. It's a really 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: big deal. So Brent Venables locks down the number eight 30 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: class in the country, Mario Christobul and the guys down 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: at Miami had the number fifteen class. Marcus Freeman and 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Notre Dame had a top ten class. So are several 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: new staffs that history tells us should mean a disaster 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: for recruiting. Didn't work out that way. We're going to 35 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: talk about that tonight. UCF twenty seventeen. Someone wanted to know, 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: do I laugh at that national championship? They claim? Do 37 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I take it seriously? We will discuss, friends, you can 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: go inform your opinion right now. We will discuss It's 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: probably about the most important time that you could ever 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: be following on the social channels at late Kick Josh. 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Here's the update. It's not really an update. I'm just 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: reminding you are not doing a show Sunday night. We 43 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: will do two Late Kick lives next week, so Tuesday 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: night and Thursday night, and we will otherwise be back 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: to normal. You know, had some nice productive conversations with 46 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: the NFL, and we decided to spare them the task, 47 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: unenviable task of going head to head Super Bowl versus 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Late Kick on a Sunday night. I just you know, 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: it's not a battle that we want to fight. We 50 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: pick and choose, so we will see this Sunday to 51 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm going to drive home tonight actually after 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: the show, so I'll be in Georgia. If anyone sees me, stop, 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: say hey, and then move on about your business. We've 54 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: got things to do down there. Looking forward to that though. 55 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: At Late Kick, Josh, all the social channels also news 56 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: could break any minute, and so you always want to 57 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: be tuned in there. So without further ado, let's dive 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: in and let's get to the very latest. Appreciate you 59 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: guys watching live. I know a lot of you will 60 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 1: watch and listen to the replay tomorrow. I can't guarantee 61 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: that the news will be the same then as it 62 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: is right now. The Brian Harson situation. What's the very 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: latest out of Auburn. I am stunned that there is 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: no resolution to this. Quite frankly. When I last spoke 65 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: with you, at least from this studio, it was on Sunday, 66 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: its four days ago, and I thought that a move 67 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: was imminent, and I thought that Brian Harson was going 68 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: to stay on that beach in Mexico forever because he 69 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't have a job waiting when he got back. Well 70 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: that's not the case, at least so far. Birmingham, Alabama 71 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: was the place to be today. You know, they had 72 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: the coaches meeting. In fact, we got some video of it. 73 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: We can roll. They had the coaches meetings up there, 74 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: which is annual. So this is a shot from Birmingham 75 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: today and there's Brian Harson leaving the SEC coaches meeting 76 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: and he so frazzled. He picks the wrong black suv 77 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: and try and get in and you got Southern fried 78 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: paparazzi following him all over the place. Talk about a 79 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: culture shock. By the way, twenty twenty, Brian Harson is 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: up in Idaho could have walked to a near street 81 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: corner and just yelled I'm Brian Harrison and nothing would 82 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: have happened. People would have gone on about their business. 83 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: And now it's twenty twenty two and he can't even 84 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: sneak out the back of a building on the streets 85 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: of Birmingham without getting mobbed. Look at that. This is 86 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Kardashian treatment, quite frankly, for Brian Harson. Up in Birmingham. 87 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: That's where we are. No one knows anything. There saw 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: some reports that he's met with the Auburn administration and 89 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, so far, go to your meetings and then 90 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: we'll handle whatever we need to handle when you get back. 91 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: It's a mess that it never was intended to spill 92 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: out this publicly, obviously. So earlier today I was thinking 93 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: to myself, I wonder how many people's opinions have really changed, 94 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: did this guy? So I go on Twitter and I 95 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: just asked, I love the poll function on Twitter, by 96 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: the way, and I asked, has your opinion have your 97 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: feelings towards Brian Harson changed within the past seven days, 98 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: that's a week, a calendar week. More than a quarter 99 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: of you said yes, and we know how scientific this is. 100 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: More than a quarter of you said yes. A lot 101 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: of these are Auburn fans. Now, it's important to note 102 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of renote what we said the other night. Remember 103 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday, I told you there was growing support for 104 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: Brian Harson, but it wasn't necessarily support for Brian Harson. 105 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: The closer you get to the Auburn football program, the 106 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: folks who are speaking out out in defense of Brian Harson, 107 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: they're not thrilled with the recruiting either. They're not thrilled 108 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: with what they've seen in the past and now what 109 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: they see maybe being repeated in terms of offenses when 110 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: it comes to how you stack a roster, and they 111 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: know who they're going up against. So it's not like 112 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: they're screaming pro Brian Harson thoughts because they're sure they 113 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: got the right guy. You might as well have a 114 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: generic coach. The folks at Auburn, the ones at least 115 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: that are screaming on that side of the fence, are 116 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: a lot more upset with the administrative side of things, 117 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: and they're a lot more upset with what they would 118 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: call an acronym form JABA, which is just Auburn being Auburn, 119 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: and they've had some problems long before you ever heard 120 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: the name Brian Harson. But what interest to me is 121 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: that entire sentiment people changing their minds on Brian Harson. 122 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: If this were the political world, for example, Brian Harson 123 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: has had a win over the past week. Now, in reality, 124 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's going to matter. I think eventually, 125 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: if and when this split happens, it may be a 126 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: little bit easier for him to find employment down the road. 127 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: But because there's the simple understanding in the industry that well, 128 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: that's a special case. You know, that guy went into 129 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: Auburn and he was never given a chance to succeed, 130 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: or at least that's how he could reasonably be able 131 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: to sell that. But that aside, like how many people 132 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: support him and don't support him. All that aside. One 133 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: point that I've had expressed to me that I wanted 134 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: to touch on tonight because I've heard a lot of 135 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Auburn folks say it to me. I've seen a lot 136 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: of Auburn folks say it as well. This has to 137 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: do with the camp that's on the other side of 138 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: the fence, the camp that thinks it's time to cut bait. 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: Either the well is too poison now, or just flat 140 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: out we don't like him, we think they made a mistake, 141 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: or some of the Auburn fans never wanted him hired 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: in the first place. That contingent wants to move on. 143 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Among that contingent, I've heard a lot of people, you know, 144 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: among the crowd that is less pro Harson. I've heard 145 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: some of the Auburn folks say, I don't really think 146 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: Brian Harson loves Auburn. You know, I don't get a 147 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: great vibe off him. A lot of Auburn folks, you know, 148 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: they believe in the Auburn creed, and so they believe 149 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: in Auburn. They love Auburn, and some people have been 150 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: turned off. They think Brian Harson's not quite gotten in 151 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: with that vibe yet. And I look around and I say, 152 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: how in the world could he love Auburn. You know 153 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: the Auburn you know, if you grew up there is 154 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: That's where I spent my childhood. I grew up forty 155 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: five minutes from Auburn. I know all about that place. 156 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: A lot of you graduated from there, maybe you even 157 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: played there at the very least, maybe you grew up 158 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: rooting for Auburn. That's the Auburn you know, but it's 159 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of woven into the fabric of your entire life. 160 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: Brian Harson probably couldn't have picked Auburn Alabama out on 161 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: a map this time two years ago. The Auburn he 162 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: knows is brand new. What Auburn does Brian Harson know? 163 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: He knows the Auburn that he's had to fight against, 164 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: at least certain portions of which from day one. He 165 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: knows the Auburn that has not given him equal resources 166 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: relative to the teams that they are asking him to 167 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: compete against. And he also knows the Auburn that has 168 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: required him essentially to live in a state of booster 169 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: surveillance ever since he's been there. Who in the world 170 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: would love Auburn in that position. I wouldn't love Auburn 171 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: if I were Brian Harson, I could grow to love it. 172 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't love it right now. So I don't even 173 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: if I'm against the guy, Like, even if I were 174 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: to come over to that side and I were to 175 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: say I agree in theory with you, it wouldn't because 176 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't think the guy loves Auburn. But I was 177 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: on the board over on Auburn Undercover earlier today, trying 178 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: to get a sense of where the overall sentiment is, 179 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: and Keith Nieber had a really interesting thread he had 180 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: started a couple of days ago. He said, basically, let's 181 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: just take the situation right now and from this point 182 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: moving forward, what do you guys think the best case 183 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: scenario is? Okay, you can't go back in time. So 184 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: from this point forward, and I would say the majority, 185 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: to the super majority of posters over on Auburn Undercover 186 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: said we got to fire him, We got to move on. 187 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: And there there were a lot of folks who said, look, 188 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: even if I think he's been done wrong, I love 189 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: Auburn more than Brian Harson, Like I'm rooting for Auburn, 190 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: not Brian Harson. So what's in the best interest for 191 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: the program in the university is we can't turn back 192 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: on this. We've burned the brig long ago behind him. 193 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: There's no way we go back and we have any 194 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: kind of viable product with him at the helm. And 195 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: I get that again in theory, that logic makes sense 196 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: to me. But it's one thing to say fire him. 197 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: I want to address the second part of that, the 198 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: move on part. Because I've been doing a lot of 199 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: national radio over the past two or three days, and 200 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: I've been asked about this a lot and a lot 201 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: of folks who aren't really on the ground and the 202 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: weeds around the situation. They want to know, if Parson 203 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: gets fired, what will the coaching search look like. I 204 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: think it would be a disaster. I don't even think 205 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: a legitimate coaching search would be feasible for Auburn right now. 206 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: And I've spoken to some folks around the industry about this. 207 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: You take the toxicity that you think exists around the 208 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: perception of this job right now, turn the volume knob 209 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: two or three more notches to the right, because that's 210 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: the real perception. No one with any credibility wants to 211 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: touch it. That doesn't mean that they couldn't hit a 212 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: grand slam out of nowhere and find a unicorn. But 213 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the name that you would normally incorporate 214 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: in a major college football coaching search are not going 215 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: to be names that are on the ledger for Auburn 216 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: to choose from. Could they find an exception to the 217 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: rule out there? Could they could go find a superstar 218 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator candidate. Sure, they could do that. 219 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: They could go hire Del McGhee who used to coach 220 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: high school ball just across the Chattahoochie River and Columbus, Georgia, 221 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: and he could be a surprise home run that no 222 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: one ever saw coming. They could do that. Okay, I 223 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: think we all understand. That's the exception in the percentages 224 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: game to the overall rule of if you can't get 225 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: yourself a major, proven winner, you're going to be in 226 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: some trouble. Here. I think there'd be in some trouble. 227 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: So you either have a the powers that be there 228 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: just hand picking someone they wanted in the first place. 229 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I EA. Kevin Steele. B. You could go get a 230 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: guy whose reputation is damaged goods like Hugh Freeze, which 231 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: would be ironic considering the guy that you were theoretically 232 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: pushing out the door is guilty of some of the 233 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: same things that we have heard from Hugh Freeze in 234 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: the past. Or c. This is an option that I've 235 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: heard floated, but I don't know if anyone's taking it seriously. Ay, 236 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: what if Auburn just went the interim route for twenty 237 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: twenty two? If they have to make a move here there. 238 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: I guess there's a d where Brian Harson keeps his job. 239 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: It's just no one around the program believes that's going 240 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: to happen. So in lieu of that, what if the 241 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: final option there is go the interim route, get your 242 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: ducks in order or in a row. I guess it 243 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: would be and basically just be the first major program 244 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: on the market for the twenty twenty two coaching cycle 245 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: instead of trying to pick from the very scraps from 246 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the remaining scraps of the twenty twenty one coaching cycle. 247 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: You're even in a perfect world, working at a major 248 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: disadvantage here if you're about to enter a coaching search. 249 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: But if you're entering it, and also you add in 250 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: the caveat that the perception of the coaching job at 251 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: Auburn right now is not the best in the world. 252 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: In fact, it's very toxic. I don't know if this 253 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: is the kind of environment that I want to be 254 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: entering into to conduct a major coaching search. So again, 255 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that the same crowd that has made a 256 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: clutch of this. This may be bold to assume, but 257 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that they have a plan. Let's hope they 258 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: have a plan. I just could not, for the life 259 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: of me, tell you what the plan is at the moment. 260 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: And it seems that they can't either, because as of 261 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: today and tonight, we still have no resolution. Your piece 262 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: fell out twice there. I got an interesting email today 263 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: and it was from one of you who had been 264 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: to Academy Sports and Outdoors. And that wasn't the interesting part, 265 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: because a lot of you send me that. I appreciate it, 266 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: Please keep sending me that. But then one of you 267 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: decided to be a really active participant. We have passive listeners, 268 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: we have active listeners, we have passive viewers, we have 269 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: active viewers. Well, one of our particularly active viewer, slash listeners, 270 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: went to Academy, sent proof via a receipt and then said, hey, 271 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: if you talk to Academy again, and I do quite frequently, 272 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: he said, I am going to include a list of 273 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: items I think they should carry. And he sent them 274 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: a wide ranging list of items and it's very impressive. Actually, 275 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to send that list right onto the proper authorities. 276 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that different brand soft drinks is 277 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: something that Academy is maybe in the market for right now. 278 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: But we'll see point being. I appreciate you visiting Academy 279 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors because they are our sole partner. We 280 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: just told you last week, and I'm gonna keep telling 281 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: you we re upped for them through the spring. That 282 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: was about a five minute conversation and we got that 283 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: done really really quickly. But here's what I've decided. Of 284 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: course you can go there and you can get all 285 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: your outdoor sporting goods needs and we know that. And 286 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: if you need a new jersey, you need team apparel, 287 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: of course you can go there for that. But I 288 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: like the interest stories from our audience. For instance, I 289 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: like the guy who sent me one the other day 290 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: who said, you know, I've been going to fill in 291 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: the blank sporting goods outlet for years, but because of 292 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: the show, I switched to Academy. Here's a picture. I 293 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: love that. But you know what I would really like 294 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: to do. I would really like to hear a story 295 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: out there and the first pair of you. I guess 296 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: who can deliver me valid proof that you as a 297 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: couple first met at Academy Sports and Outdoors. I'm sending 298 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: you a chalice of supremacy, not too, because you are 299 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: a union now. So I'm sending you one chalice, not challi, 300 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: not plural singular. But if anyone out there can prove 301 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: to me that they met their significant other at an academy, 302 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: sports and outdoors, all kinds of marketability, all kinds of potential, 303 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: also a chalice of supremacy on the line. So you 304 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: bring me that proof. I don't necessarily know how you 305 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: do it, maybe surveillance video footage. But if you bring 306 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: me that proof, I got something for you. Okay, let's 307 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: regroup here. Academy did not know I was going to 308 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: do that. Let's regroup here. Mood tracker time. Let's go 309 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: out to Los Angeles, California. And if I could just 310 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: be selfish for a second, I got something to admit 311 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: to you tonight. I'm openly rooting for USC. It would 312 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: be so great for our show. Forget college football for 313 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: a second, it would be great for our show if 314 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: the University of Southern California was at the top of 315 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. Again, it's not that I'm rooting against 316 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the PAC twelve. I am heartily rooting 317 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: for Lincoln Riley to succeed in Southern California. So I 318 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: want that out there. So if you think I have 319 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: bias and it sounds like I'm a little excited right now, 320 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: well it's because I am. Again that's the selfish part 321 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: of me. But that's not what this segment's about. This 322 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: is about mood tracker. The mood tracker is just us 323 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: taking the temperature of the fan base. Now around Southern 324 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: Cal right now, the mood tracker is a little bit different. 325 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I've used this mood ever. They got 326 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: muscle Milk as a sponsor on the coliseum. I didn't 327 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: know that. That's interesting. So the mood tracker around Southern 328 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: Cal football right now is what I call heal confidence. 329 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: That is the mood around the fan base. Heal confidence, 330 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: for those unfamiliar with the term, is like Rick Flair 331 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: in the eighties. Rick Flair would come to your town 332 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: and he would make fun of your women, and he 333 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: would trash your culture, and he would go forty five 334 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: or fifty minutes with your local champ and make it 335 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: look like he was going to come out on top. 336 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: And then Rick Flair would pen in one, two, three, 337 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: and he would leave town and he would smile the 338 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: entire way that is heal confidence, and USC fans have 339 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: heal confidence right now, because the thing about it is, 340 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, most of the college 341 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: football public hates USC. They hate what they see out there. 342 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: They don't like him being on top. They certainly do 343 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: not like perceptionally the way Lincoln Riley bolted Norman for LA. 344 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: They don't like what they perceive that he's done via roster, 345 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: acquisition and building. They don't like any of it. My 346 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: advice to our viewers there in southern California, in the 347 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: surrounding area and the entire fan base is lean into it, 348 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: because that's not going anywhere. Lincoln Riley gets this. I 349 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: think my advice would be to lean into it. And 350 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: for those of you USC fans who may be like 351 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: seventeen years old, you don't really have any kind of 352 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: vivid recollection of the early two thousands. Let me clue 353 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: you in on something USC ruled college football. That's A 354 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: and B. Everyone hated him, so this would be nothing new. 355 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: I would actually argue for USC to be at the 356 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: peak of the power of what the program can be, 357 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: you probably need to be doing things that make the 358 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: rest of college football hate you. I cannot put into 359 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: strong enough terms. Now it's been a generation I cannot 360 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: put into strong enough terms. In the early two thousands, 361 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: as a kid growing up in the South, how despised 362 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: USC football was. I'm growing up in Columbus, Georgia. In fact, 363 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: what year was it was? It like five? It was 364 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: when Carson it was a Matt lionerd. I think there 365 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: when they came to play Auburn and everyone all summer 366 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: down south said, yeah, Pete Carrolyn. Then they play those 367 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: little nobody pack twelve Pac ten teams out west, wait 368 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: till they get a taste of a SEC football and 369 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: b Southern humidity, and Auburn could have played until October 370 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: and would not have scored on USC. It enraged everybody. 371 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh they hated. It is like kicking over an ant 372 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: bed anytime you mentioned USC football down south. It could 373 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: be that way again. It's like the James Earl Jones 374 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: talk in Field of Dreams. It was old, it once 375 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: was good, and it could be again. Well, USC could 376 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: be that. It's like a Decen's like a C plus 377 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: James Earl Jones. I try, but that could be USC. 378 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: And so when you see what they've done in the portal. 379 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: They're going to keep doing it. When you see a 380 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: few more elite recruits from the high school ranks stay 381 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: home that otherwise would have gone to Bama or Clemson 382 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: or Taxis wherever the case may be. They're not going 383 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: to like that. They're not going to like that smile 384 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: on Lincoln Riley's face when they start moving up the 385 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: ranks a little bit, whether it be recruiting or on 386 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: the field, they're not going to like any of it. Okay, 387 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: that is going to be status quo. That's a constant. 388 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: I would just advise leaning into it, and that's what 389 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot of USC fans are already doing. And for 390 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: the few remaining holdouts out there and now listen, Southern California, 391 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: I get it. Appearances matter a lot. You want people 392 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: to like you. In this case, the more they hate you, 393 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: the better off the program is. And so heal confidence 394 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: is what USC fans are feeling a lot right now. 395 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: And this is early on. They haven't even conducted a 396 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: spring practice under Lincoln Riley yet, but I expect that 397 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: to continue. And you know, when you're in danger, you're 398 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: in danger when they start talking good about you, you're 399 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: in danger. When some random person in like Joplin, Missouri 400 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: is saying USC, they're all right with me? No, no, 401 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: you will have direct correlation between the anger and the 402 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: total despise level in Joplin, Missouri towards USC and how 403 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: good you're actually doing as a football program. Two shout 404 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: outs for Joplin. It's not only fight on, it's two 405 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: shoutouts for Joplin on the show tonight. We have a 406 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: lot of mail bag to get to. We have a 407 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: really really loaded mail bag. Actually, also, I wanted to 408 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: check something here. Okay, we're good. Who do we want 409 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: to start with? So let's go with Jay's question first, guys, 410 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: So the other day we do the Late Kick Extra 411 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: podcast and we had so many good questions. I mean, 412 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: there are dozens of them. I still didn't get to yet. 413 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: But this question is from Jay. I wanted to hit 414 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: it tonight. He said, do you see Tea Tams in 415 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: the SEC East? Georgia was standing start to buy in 416 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: more like we see in the West. It seems like 417 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: most programs have got their best fit at head coach 418 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: and they just need the higher ups to say yes more. 419 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: It's an interesting observation. I was talking to an administrative type. 420 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: The other day we were talking about Auburn and he said, 421 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, you were kind of talking about the plight 422 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: of Auburn, how hard that job is, YadA, YadA, YadA, 423 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: And he said, you realize that if you were to 424 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: just take a poll of every SEC fan base, not 425 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: just in the East, think about the entire SEC. Think 426 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: about how crazy this is. If you took a pole 427 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: from every fan base in the SEC right now, you 428 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: would have well over a sixty percent approval rating for 429 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: every head coach not named Brian Harson. Everybody is, to 430 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: varying degrees satisfied. A lot of them are new. So 431 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Shane Beemer's knew, Billy Napier's brand new, Josh Hipel's second 432 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: year in. But the thing about Hypel, the thing about 433 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: Shane Beemer, they gave their fan bases a lot to 434 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: be excited about in year one. Billy Napier has not 435 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: even conducted a spring practice himself. He's given Florida fans 436 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: a lot to be excited about. You know, Mark Stoops 437 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: is probably one of the highest approval ratings this side 438 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: of Nick Saban and Kirby Smart in all the SEC. 439 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: So my answer is, yeah, like, relatively speaking, there seems 440 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: to be progress being made there, and certainly like, I 441 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: don't think there is necessarily an investment issue. I don't 442 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: think that. I think maybe there have been hiring issues 443 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: in the past. I think maybe there have been decision 444 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: making issues in the past. I haven't looked at Tennessee 445 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: football or even South Carolina football and said they're not 446 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: beating Georgia because they refuse to spend money necessary to 447 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: keep up. I haven't said that. I may have said 448 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: it about Florida a time or ten, and it was right. 449 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: But if you've looked at the headline since Billy Napier 450 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: got into Gainsville, the first things he started to address 451 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: were pretty basic things. Nutrition, player housing, had to take 452 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: care of that dastardly parking tip situation down there. He 453 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: has won the masses over by providing shelter and providing 454 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: food and making sure that you don't have to check 455 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: your winscheld wiper if you've been park somewhere for twenty minutes. 456 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Point being, if I'm looking around the SEC east, like 457 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: where is the biggest rub from fan base to coach? 458 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: Would it be in Missouri? Is that where it would be? 459 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: Would it be Eli Drinkwitz. I think everyone is to 460 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: varying degrees happy right now. But now we enter second 461 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: seasons for guys like Josh Hipel, guys like Shane Biemer, 462 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: and it's pivotal because see at South Carolina, they just 463 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: did what would indicate to you they need to do 464 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: to take a quantum leap forward. They landed a premier 465 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: quarterback name out of the transfer portal. That's great, but 466 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: there's not a downside. But there is a B side 467 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: to that. I'm told back in the day, they used 468 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: to sell something called a record, and they had an 469 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: A side and a B side. Well, on the B 470 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: side is like the follow up. So you land guys 471 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: out of the transfer portal like Spencer Rattler and everyone celebrates. 472 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: Then you flip it over and the B side is okay, 473 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: but kind of need to win this fall, so we 474 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: got to wait on that. Josh Hipel in year one, 475 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: everyone was and should be very excited about what they 476 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: saw out of Josh Hipel in what looked to be 477 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: a no win situation, and they won seven games and 478 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: they were inches away a couple of times when winning 479 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: a couple of more. Hendon Hooker is not on any 480 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: Heisman preseason watch list, which I kind of find fascinating. 481 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be the most crazy thing 482 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: in the world to see a Josh Hypel quarterback come 483 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I mean, Kenny Pickett did it last year, 484 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: so I'm telling you Hendon Hooker and Tennessee could do it. 485 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: Feel the same way about Jackson dart at Ole Miss 486 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, year two is going to be 487 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: not a make or break by any stretch, but the 488 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: answer to this question will be a lot more emphatic 489 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: at the end of this upcoming season than it is 490 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: right now. Good question, though, Think about that, Like every 491 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: SEC program outside of Auburn thirteen of fourteen to varying degrees, 492 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: happy with their situation right now? Now, you know that 493 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: means there is a complete and utter disaster that's going 494 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: to unfold over the next two or three years. Because 495 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: that can't last. There are on enough wins to go around. 496 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: So it was gonna this thing is going to be 497 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: a mushroom cloud in a couple of years. Enjoy the 498 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: smiley faces while you can. Next up, who do we 499 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: want to go with? I didn't even know what this 500 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: name was actually, so courtesy of our buddy cbr SNR. 501 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: He said, how impressed were you with the way Brenton 502 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: Venables closed with the top eight class, highest OU class 503 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: in two years. The short answer is very impressed, borderline 504 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: stunned that that was able to happen. But then I 505 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: was looking with producer Jesse before we went on air, 506 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: and I was saying, how high was this class rated? 507 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: It was number eight in the country. But you know, 508 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: if Alabama finished number eight, it'd be one of the 509 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: worst classes Sabans ever had. Well, Oklahoma finishes number eight, 510 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: what does that mean? There was only one class that 511 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: Riley had in his time there that finished higher than this, 512 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: and it was like two or three years ago. They 513 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: finished sixth. They had one other class I think that 514 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: finished eighth point being brent Vivenables came in and while 515 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: everyone's attention was on the transfer portal and you know 516 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: how many players are we losing to the portal, brent 517 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: Venables came in and those guys did a heck of 518 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: a job keeping a class together that rates with an 519 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: average player rating of over ninety one and also sit 520 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: squarely inside the top ten. And that's pivotal and necessary 521 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: because Texas is up at I think number five is 522 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: where the Longhorns finished. So it was necessary, but it's 523 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: very good because at least what that is is it's 524 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: an indication from Oklahoma commits who got a taste of 525 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: Brent Venables and that new staff there, that that's something 526 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: they want to buy into. That's all you can sell Britain. 527 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: Venables can't sell his resume as a head coach, doesn't 528 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: have one. But what he can do is he can 529 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: interact with you, albeit in a brief period of time. 530 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: He can interact with you. He can sell you on 531 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: what the game plan is, what the blueprint is. He 532 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: can sell you on how he observed it firsthand at Clemson. 533 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: He can sell you on the fact that he knows Oklahoma. 534 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: He's no stranger to Norman and the surrounding areas. And 535 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: if you'll just believe in it. I've seen it done, 536 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: I've been a part of it being done. We will 537 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: get it done here. I have to have guys like 538 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: you in order to do that. Enough kids had that 539 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: appeal to them that Oklahoma finished with a top ten class, 540 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: and again they had like twenty minutes to put it together. 541 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: They were barely in the door before it was signing day. 542 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: So then that's the A side. What's the B side. Well, 543 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: the B side is everyone will expect if this guy 544 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: finished top ten with like a month to work on 545 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: a class, imagine what he'll do with an entire cycle. 546 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: And that's great, and it makes total sense to think 547 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: that way. Now you got to back it up, it 548 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: would look kind of strange. For example, if Brent Vinnable 549 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: is in Oklahoma, were sitting there next February saying, all right, well, 550 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: finish in seventeenth here. It's not the worst thing in 551 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: the world. It's not the end of the world, but 552 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: it would be a very poor sophomore effort relative to 553 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: what they just put together. So it was very impressive. 554 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: I think another thing to pay attention to with venables, 555 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, from this point moving forward, any head 556 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: coach who lacks experience, either a first time or just 557 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: has a few years under his belt when they get 558 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: major jobs. I cannot stress enough how much more layered 559 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: the role of a head coach is now than it 560 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: even was five years ago. When you see new things 561 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: come into the equation, like the transfer portal, like nil 562 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: and all that that encompasses. Those are very quick statements 563 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: and very quick sentences. There is so much you could 564 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: talk eight hours straight about both of those topics. Well, 565 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: think about what you have to be as a head coach, 566 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: and that's on top of player development, player acquisition, the 567 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: classical senses. That's on top of having to market your 568 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: program and be the face of your program. It's on 569 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: top of all the other things you have to do. Now, 570 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have to understand principles of marketing, 571 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: and you have to understand branding, and you have to 572 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: understand how to pitch that to kids in the NIL 573 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: era in a much different way than you used to. 574 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: You also have to understand how to build a college 575 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: scouting department to fully leverage the transfer portal. There's so 576 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: much that you have to know now that you never 577 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: had to know before. That you spend just fractions of 578 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: your time on football. I think one of the biggest 579 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: surprises that the general college football public would come to 580 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: realize if you truly had all access to a program, 581 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: is how little time head coaches spend on football, to 582 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: the point where you better you better have your p's 583 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and q's in a row. As a just a football 584 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: mind before you get one of those jobs, because you 585 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of time. I mean, it's 586 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: not like you're going to clinics and chalk talk sessions 587 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: every other week. You don't have time to You really 588 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: got to manage your time right to keep your game sharp. 589 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Think about how basic that is being a head coach, 590 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: especially if through a play caller Ryan Day at Ohio 591 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: State like is. It is a struggle. You have got 592 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: to fight to keep your edge about yourself, just as 593 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: an offensive mind, because every second you spend on that 594 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: is a second that's not being dedicated to managing every 595 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: other aspect of the program. That's why hiring the right 596 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: people is very, very important, and that's also why it's 597 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: so critical for your university to give you a big 598 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: enough budget and to allocate enough heads, enough positions of 599 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: employment to where you can fill out an army of 600 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: a staff. Nick Saban doesn't do that just because he 601 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: wants to accumulate bodies up there. Kirby Smart doesn't do 602 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: that just because he likes a more full office. They 603 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: do it because there are so many aspects of a 604 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: program that it's impossible for one man to run it. 605 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter twenty four hours in a day in every 606 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: state in the Union. You got to have the right 607 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: people in the building, all right, the last one here, 608 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: and I saved it for last because it could be 609 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: very controversial, and who knows where this is going to go. 610 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I know the live chat will handle this with the 611 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: maturity that I've come to expect from our live chat. 612 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: Andy Warren asked, on a scale of one to ten, 613 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: how hard do you laugh when UCF fans I am 614 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: a title in twenty seventeen. I laughed pretty hard, So 615 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: that's my answer. I just want to be honest with you. 616 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: I kind of thought the entire concept was a joke. 617 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: I didn't take the claim seriously. But I will tell 618 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: you there is This is a third time I've said 619 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: this tonight. There is a side b to this opinion 620 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: as well at its outset. When we were in the moment, 621 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: remember what the situation was. This was the year that 622 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: Alabama and Georgia ended up rematching in a title game 623 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: for the first time, and there were a lot of 624 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Central Florida folks who were buying into one of the 625 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: biggest lies in college football, which is you are what 626 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: your record says? You are. It's a lie, it's a trap. 627 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: Don't fall into it. But if you put yourself in 628 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: the shoes of a UCF grad or player, or coach 629 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: or fam I want to ask you, including myself, how 630 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: would you have acted differently? And your answer, if you're 631 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: being honest, is you would have done the same thing. 632 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: You would have been mad for the same reasons, especially 633 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: if I had any administrative role at uc And this 634 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: is where I want to give you the side b 635 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done anything different. I would have understood, 636 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: even if in the back of my mind I knew competitively, 637 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: we don't compete at the same level of football as 638 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: those two do, Bama and Georgia. I get that. Okay, 639 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: that would have been me in the back room. But 640 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: when I walked through the curtain and I faced my constituents, 641 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: I would have said, hang the banner. That's what I 642 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: would have said, and we would have that banner hanging 643 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: proudly down there in the old bounce house as they 644 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: call it. But also that wasn't the trick for UCF. 645 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: I know at Danny White was the ad there at 646 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: the time, and I know that in a front facing 647 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: manner he read all the right bullet points. Danny White 648 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: is not an idiot. He's at Tennessee now for a reason. 649 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: Called him Mike White the other day. How shameful was 650 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: that Danny White knew exactly what he was doing. You 651 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: can't even begin to quantify how much free marketing they 652 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: got out of that. I mean, there are a lot 653 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: of people who are hyper aware of University of Central 654 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: floor to football now that did not know it from 655 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: Adam back in twenty sixteen or seventeen. They got so 656 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: much valuable marketing and branding out of that. And they 657 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: also they kind of painted themselves as a representation of 658 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: a cause. You see a football went from a brand 659 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: that has a little cartoon night that you may or 660 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: may not have heard of, to all of a sudden 661 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: being the face for a little guy everywhere, for the 662 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: underappreciated guy in your office, or just take it on 663 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: the athletic field, to any kind of team that's ever 664 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: been overlooked, or any kind of competitor or group of 665 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: competitors that have never been given a fair shot. All 666 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: of a sudden that became U see a football. They 667 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: were the little guy, they were the everyman, and they 668 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: did it by getting you riled up because they gave 669 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: themselves a fictitious championship that really it's not tangible, it 670 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. It's a banner that hangs in their stadium. 671 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: But they got folks so worked up, so all worked up, 672 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: and they kind of sat back, and like, I got 673 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: a sister who I argue with all sorts of things 674 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: on and one of the most aggravating things is knowing 675 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: she's wrong about something, which is just a fact she is. 676 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: But she will not raise her voice. Even as I 677 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: raise my voice and my face gets red, She'll just say, well, 678 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, okay, you can believe what you want to believe. 679 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: Two plus two is four. You think two plus two 680 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: to seven tomato? Tomato? You know we got we all 681 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: got opinions. Well it's not an opinion. You know, blue 682 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 1: is the best color is an opinion. Two plus two 683 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: is four. It's a fact, and yet you're telling me 684 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: it's not. Well, back then, it was Alabama and George 685 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: are playing in what is called the National Championship Game. 686 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: You went to the Peach Bowl. You played an Auburn 687 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: team who I had a player, by the way, tell me, 688 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: was like the sixth biggest game they played that year 689 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: and you won the Peach Bowl. Congratulations, that makes you 690 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: Peach Bowl champs. That doesn't make you national champs. That 691 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: was the cry, and you CF sat back and went, no, 692 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: I still think we're going to call ourselves champs. And 693 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: then everyone pulled their hair out. Think happened to me? 694 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: I used to have long flowing locks before twenty seventeen, 695 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: and then that happened, and I got mad. But then 696 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: I started to understand it, and I started to look 697 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: down there. The more Danny White stroked his chin, I realized, 698 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: wait a second, is he playing me? Am I being punked? Yep, 699 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: we got punked. So UCF. Yeah, you can laugh at 700 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: the concept that they're the national champions in twenty seventeen, 701 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: but what they accomplished was so much bigger than that. 702 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, where are they headed? They 703 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: are headed to the Big twelve, so they very soon 704 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: will be a quote unquote Power five team to the 705 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: point where you know, Cincinnati just pulled it off. Maybe 706 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: Central Florida becomes the second former G five team. I 707 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: guess they'd be a former G five team. That'd be 708 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: a P five team. To make it, I think it 709 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: was very very shrewd marketing. That's what I think it was. 710 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of folks got it and 711 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: they were well ahead of the curve on it, so 712 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: I would have done the same thing UCF did. Thank 713 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: you so much for being tuned in. Remember give us 714 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: a like if you haven't already subscribed to the channel 715 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: if you haven't already, and remember make sure you're following 716 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: on the social channels. There is so much and in 717 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: the future, maybe even more that happens that I don't 718 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: share on the show. Think about if something personal were 719 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: to happen that directly applies to me professionally, that is 720 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: not you know, CBS, it's not anything else that you 721 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: may be interested in. Well, that's where I share it. 722 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't waste time on the show sharing it. So anyway, 723 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: at Late Kick, Josh, make sure you're following Instagram and Twitter. 724 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: And that's a wrap for our show. Really appreciate you guys. 725 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: Good numbers, in fact, great numbers, and we really appreciate that. 726 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: So for director Colin, producer Jesse, our production executives, I'm 727 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: Josh Bate. Have a great rest of your evening and 728 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: God bless