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Speaker 1: Man's KG certified. We got the one and only today,

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Speaker 1: but your cousins in the house. Baby's with you, boys,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for coming through this.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you what you've been on, bucks Man. I'm

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Speaker 2: out the way. Man, I've been on father time keeping

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Speaker 2: his body in order around for these guys.

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Speaker 1: And get me a call. Really, that's really even as simple.

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Speaker 1: Right now, that's the script. Right now, that's the script.

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Speaker 3: Man. I'm enjoying the fruits of my labor.

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Speaker 1: That's dope, man, that's when you're watching. Man, what are

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Speaker 1: you I don't want to sit up there and call

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Speaker 1: it man, but are you sitting here seeing yourself and

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Speaker 1: playing all that?

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Speaker 3: Man? Look right now, I'm the third best center in the.

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Speaker 1: League right now, right now, right now, right.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm the third best center the league. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the game. I'm always watching. I'm

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Speaker 2: always enjoy you know, these guys talents and things of

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Speaker 2: that nature. But I don't know the game just in

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Speaker 2: a different place from my from my perspective, it's in

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Speaker 2: a way different place than you know. I came in

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Speaker 2: with you guys, you know, being the top tier guys

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Speaker 3: Was way different.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, it was a certain point where

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Speaker 2: I was that guy and the energy was way different

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Speaker 3: It's just different. It's the best way of putting it.

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Speaker 1: So to the point where you don't recognize it no more.

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Speaker 1: Turned you off a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't recognize it's it's the game is just so different.

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Speaker 2: The you know, the foundation of it is completely gone.

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Speaker 2: The competitive nature is completely gone, just you know, wanting

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Speaker 2: to outdo the next guy in front of you.

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Speaker 3: I think that whole dynamic is gone.

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Speaker 1: So it ain't no competitive juices no more. You don't

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Speaker 1: think gods guys.

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Speaker 3: And it's nothing wrong with being friendly. At the end

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Speaker 1: So we're boring against each other.

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Speaker 2: We came in as competitors, warriors, like you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, So that whole concept is gone, Like I

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Speaker 2: don't want to upset the next guy, or if you

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Speaker 2: say the wrong thing is held against you for the

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Speaker 2: next teen years.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's just weird. It so I don't know

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Speaker 1: I got to ask you this. I never had a

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Speaker 1: chance to ask you this man, Rondo is my little brother.

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Speaker 1: That's my big brother, no doubt, we're very close. Uh

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Speaker 1: not too much, but he will always give script to

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Speaker 1: you and how great you were. And I used to

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Speaker 1: always ask him, man, I never heard about none of

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Speaker 1: your influences growing up. Who influenced you when you when

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Speaker 1: you was watching who were you trying to be like?

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Speaker 1: Or who were some of the pieces that you was

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Speaker 2: So the way I was coming up like, it was

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Speaker 2: never one guy I wanted to specifically be by, be like,

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Speaker 2: I was fans of a certain guy, and I took

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Speaker 3: Fucked with you obviously, that's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Mello being his size, being able to move the way

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Speaker 2: he does, the different gifts with and that's that was

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Speaker 3: On the offensive side of the ball, mellow.

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Speaker 2: Power, Gasol being able to do the different things with

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Speaker 3: It's, you know, very very solid player.

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Speaker 2: Pound or marred with his explosiveness, just attacking the remnant

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Speaker 2: way he did, and then it was shocked with his dominance.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: But the guy that I felt like was a combination

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Speaker 2: of all that was Charles Barkley who is really who?

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Speaker 2: I feel like I played like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I was a bigger version of him, but we played similar.

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, he wasn't a fan of me while

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, you know what it is, book.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people from the outside watched

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Speaker 1: that's played to dominate the game. Everybody. First off, everybody

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Speaker 1: understand when you dominating it, you know what I'm saying. Bro,

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Speaker 1: you you fifty five, and Dug you fifty five, twenty

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Speaker 1: was real shit. This is how DO and I would

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Speaker 1: fifty you two fifty five? You you doing all this

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Speaker 1: other people. But Bro you was one of your own

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Speaker 1: bro where you creatively just in your own head with

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Speaker 1: watch Kevin Mchal split a trap with a step over

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Speaker 1: trap with a spin like some of it, Like are

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Speaker 1: you are you conscious of what some of the stuff

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: And it's also playing to my strengths and also knowing

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Speaker 2: So I had to be aware of that. And it

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Speaker 2: You know, guys, I'm playing against motherfuckers like you right,

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Speaker 2: how can I still be myself and be productive against

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Speaker 2: basically something that I can't even really shoot over. So

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Speaker 2: I learned how to use my body from z Bo

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Speaker 2: as I after I got in the league. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm picking up on shit with it because Zebo fucked

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Speaker 2: Tim Duncan would because you know Tim, Timmy put that

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Speaker 3: He blocked you up top, but you it stops you

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Speaker 3: from getting that lift. So I'm picking up on you know,

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Speaker 2: So I was a sponge and obviously I never had

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Speaker 3: But I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: God, that's part of my store me coming in. I

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Speaker 3: I ain't had that.

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Speaker 2: I'm from country ass and it should have been Barkley.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping it would have been. But you know,

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Speaker 2: but he can only teach me so much. Early on.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't teach me how to be a superstar because

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Speaker 2: he was never a superstars damn. So I had to

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Speaker 2: just pick up every time I play a certain player

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Speaker 2: learning from your ad. I'm gonna tell you one thing

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Speaker 2: I learn from Big Perk.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, shout out the Big Perk.

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Speaker 3: Shout out Big Perk.

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Speaker 2: I'll come in the game before the game even start.

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Speaker 2: You know, we line up for jump Perk giving me

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Speaker 2: like men, what the fuck you on? You know, Perk

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Speaker 2: ain't paying me no mind. He already in my head.

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Speaker 2: So I'm picking up on that like ship. All right,

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Speaker 2: whoever I play, I'm bumping your ass soon as we

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Speaker 2: get out there, to the point you.

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Speaker 3: Let man what you want. I ain't paying you no mine,

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Speaker 3: but I'm in your head.

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Speaker 2: So every time I come around, you worry about me

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Speaker 2: bumping you. Now I'm gonna just gonna pass your ass.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I just had to

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Speaker 2: learn through my trials and tipulation. I picked up on ship. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I see what you're doing here. Yeah, so that's how

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Speaker 1: Learn, like some natural ship bro, like this natural joint. Man,

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Speaker 1: tell me about your your early your early days of

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Speaker 1: coming up. Man. I know you, I know you was

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Speaker 1: in high school, born and raised Alabama boy, country boy

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Speaker 1: man my store.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just put it like this. I was.

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Speaker 1: I've been this height since my freshman year in high school.

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Speaker 1: I started off playing football. What position in football I

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Speaker 1: wont good?

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Speaker 3: Or I won good?

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Speaker 1: No position?

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Speaker 2: No, I just wanted to be a football Okay, I

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Speaker 2: ain't play. I didn't play what tall ware you taller?

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Speaker 2: So you know in littly it's pounds.

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Speaker 1: So I'm taller than everybody in my class, taller than

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Speaker 2: Man, So I had to play up, so they dominated

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Speaker 2: me even more. But I got the white. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: lose the weight.

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Speaker 1: You get better, though, got better, play bigger. Yeah, it all.

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Speaker 2: Worked out for me. All all this ship have been

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Speaker 2: worked out, benu. It all played a small part in

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Speaker 2: who I became. So my entire life, I was always,

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Speaker 3: So I learned I lived the fashi of life.

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Speaker 2: I experienced things quicker than the other kids my age,

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Speaker 2: from everything.

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Speaker 3: Every I hopped off the porch. Yeah you know what that.

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Speaker 1: So basketball really saved me because I ended up hitting this.

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Speaker 3: It's part of my life. I think we all do.

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Speaker 2: When you come from a certain environment, you hit this

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Speaker 2: a certain part of your life, it's like, what the

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Speaker 2: fuck I'm gonna do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What?

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Speaker 2: And when you're coming up in I rhyn man, it

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Speaker 2: ain't no left for right. Motherfucker's left right up.

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Speaker 1: The middle, a little further left, a little, it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of routes.

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Speaker 2: So trying to figure this out and credit to my mom.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, crazy thing. I'm walking through school.

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Speaker 2: This is how my basketball story start. I'm walking through school,

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Speaker 2: just the seventh grade, walking through school and skipping class

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Speaker 2: at the time. Hey, you coaches walking down shout out

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Speaker 2: to Gary. Coach Gary. But he's walking through the hallways

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Speaker 2: and he stops me, like and at this time, I'm

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Speaker 2: like six six six four and I'm like six five

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Speaker 2: sixty six. So he stops me and he's like, man,

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Speaker 2: like I told you, YadA YadA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: I tell him. He's like, what are you like sophomore,

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Speaker 2: you know, junior. I'm like, nah, in the seventh damn.

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Speaker 3: He like what the fuck? He like, you played Boston

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Speaker 3: exactly like you played Bob. No, I'm just out here,

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Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So he like, man, he got my in from he

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Speaker 2: I need you at practice today. So I go home

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, mah, yes, some man hollered at me

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Speaker 2: and you're going to do this, this and this with me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, she's talking.

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Speaker 2: About traveling all over the world playing basketball.

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I mean, how the hell you know?

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Speaker 3: How many NBA players you know? So how the fuck

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Speaker 1: Man pushing it like that, But he's pushing it.

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Speaker 2: And obviously you know your your your elders, and don't

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Speaker 1: But in my head, all I see is my environment.

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Speaker 2: So it's like I don't believe the ship you're saying,

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Speaker 3: On, get it. There were in the gym.

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Speaker 1: That's what's up.

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Speaker 3: Every day in the gym.

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Speaker 2: And then by ninth grade, I started in seven, By

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Speaker 3: I was another one playing the country.

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Speaker 3: This is how that happened.

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Speaker 2: So, like I said, I told you the people I watch,

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Speaker 3: And I never was like I want to be.

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Speaker 3: So when I would hoop, you know, I just try ship.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, it's a rinky dink ass. We ain't

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, So the confidence just grew and I

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Speaker 3: I go home.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the motherfucker dude, the motherfucking Steve Francis Reebot commercial.

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Speaker 3: They dribbling off the walls and let me try this ship. Man,

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying ship.

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Speaker 1: Case Steve Fans got you at home, dribbling off off

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Speaker 2: So I'm just trying ship and I'm getting good at it.

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Speaker 2: So that ship just all came together for him.

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Speaker 1: By the time you get to Kentucky, you got I.

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Speaker 2: Still don't believe really, So I ain't ever told this story,

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Speaker 2: really believing this whole hoop ship, like that I'm number

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Speaker 2: I'm still not really it's still not really clear to me.

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Speaker 2: So I got I got to see and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna I got my

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Speaker 3: So I've always had the gold Like if I ever

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Speaker 2: Own seeds, I'm gonna be different from what I experienced.

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Speaker 2: That was the person to go always through life because

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm allegedly having a seed, and it's like,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna stay home. I'm gonna do right by

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: So I'm one my official visit at Kentucky and Mom's

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Speaker 2: being moms love her to death. She she convinced me

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Speaker 3: To get a test.

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Speaker 2: So as I'm walking through the doors of Kentucky, I

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Speaker 3: I'm walking through the doors of Kentucky to go on

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Speaker 2: The doctor calls caused my mom's phone. My mom like

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Speaker 2: this is the doctor. She's like I answer this real quick,

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Speaker 2: come back like yeah, it's not you.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, damn, You're supposed to go do the visit

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Speaker 1: like this.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm fucked up in that moment. But I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: look I'll work about that ship. Later, like I walk

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Speaker 2: started to fire me. I'm like, yeah, cal I'm coming

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Speaker 2: to Kentucky. Bro Oh wow, I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 2: make this ship. And you know, I handled that situation

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Speaker 2: So at this point I'm now at a new stage

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Speaker 2: coming in. I ain't on no draft boards and no

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Speaker 2: shit like that. Like I had my you know, rough

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Speaker 2: history throughout high school. I speak on that on another time,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's already kind of stigma about me

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Speaker 2: at this point. I still don't know how to be

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Speaker 2: a professor. Shit, I don't even not really be a

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Speaker 2: I'm learning through trials and tripulations.

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Speaker 1: I still don't have this person I can call like, hey,

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Speaker 1: how I need to do this.

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Speaker 2: So who I learned from I learned from my roommate

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Speaker 2: John Wall. So I'm looking at how John Wall carry yourself.

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Speaker 2: I told him this when we were in Houston. I

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Speaker 2: told him that we was having a little you know, yeah, guys,

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Speaker 2: I'm rapping. I'm like, five, I ain't ever told you

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Speaker 2: the story before. So I'm like, man, I learned from

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Speaker 2: you on how to prepare myself for this next level.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I five had a little team around him,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying to, you know, preparing for

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Speaker 2: that next level. So our structure, we we roommates as

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Speaker 2: they would come see him and ship.

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Speaker 3: I'm just taking into information, like, Okay.

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Speaker 1: John was a big deal in high school coming there,

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Speaker 1: number one pick right, so you know, it's a little team,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, they put that structure around exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just falling there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I need Okay, five, I need to go work

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Speaker 2: on this bet I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna work on my ship too. Then so everything.

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Speaker 2: Five and I watched all he carried itself, just with

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Speaker 2: the media and the fans, and I'm like, okay, so

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Speaker 2: I'm just people, I'm just taking in the ship.

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Speaker 3: I can. Man. By the end of the year, I'm

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Speaker 3: they like, man, top five, I'm like, oh ship okay.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like shit, I'm thinking that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just like, bro, I don't even know if

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Speaker 2: I'm ready, like they think, I'm still not confident enough

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Speaker 2: to be like I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: What was it? You just knew your flaws, my flaws.

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Speaker 3: All I ever heard in my life was my flaws.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Only the people close to me was the ones telling

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Speaker 3: All I heard was my flaws.

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Speaker 1: So that ship.

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Speaker 3: Destroyed my confidence as a young as a young puppy.

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Speaker 2: So I had to find my like I said, through

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Speaker 2: my trials and tribulations. So with that, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: you top five picks. I had the conversation with kN

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Speaker 2: in my head, I'm I'm gonna come back to the car.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing one more year. And then you know, you

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Speaker 2: kind of what you don't know? You don't know you

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Speaker 2: came straight out, but you kind of, you know, fall

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Speaker 2: in love with it. This is the first time like

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed playing basketball. I felt loved. I felt like

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Speaker 2: I could be my Kentucky like put me into like

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Speaker 2: a place that just like what's the work like just

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Speaker 2: it was it was a peaceful environment.

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Speaker 1: I could just be myself. I wasn't being judged. They

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Speaker 3: I was looking for my life.

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Speaker 1: That's what's up. So I'm like, man, I want to

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Speaker 1: stay here, like I'm trying to win the championship all

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Speaker 1: this shit. So I haller that fire, Like, man, what

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Speaker 1: you think about staying? I'm thinking about you know, joke

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Speaker 1: him knowing in the floor. I was like, nigga, please

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Speaker 1: we are man, I'm going to the league.

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Speaker 2: I'm all right, well okay, I bet so let me

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Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board. I had a conversation

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Speaker 2: with Kyle. I'm like, Kyle thinking about coming back. And

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Speaker 2: this was me and Kyle conversation. This is the end

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Speaker 2: of the year joint, this is the end of the

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Speaker 2: year meeting. And our conversation lasts about three minutes. So

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I think I'm thinking about coming back. Kyle

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Speaker 2: was like, all I got to say that. He was like,

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Speaker 2: if you want to take care of your family, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna leave. If you wanna take care of my family,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna stay. Oh wow, appreciate it everything you did

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Speaker 2: for me, Kyle. I see you in dam That was

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440
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Speaker 1: you get to the league you're saying you weren't even

441
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Speaker 1: all the way a one with the confidence, Bro, what's

442
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: driving you at this point? Seeing that you shit to

443
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: love Fax Facts and seeing that you're better than somebody,

444
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: and then I'm like and then when it just I'm

445
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Speaker 1: not even I'm speaking just from a mental stand Fax Fact.

446
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 3: When it came to the hoop shit, it's just like

447
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 3: all that shit cut off.

448
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 2: I shut all that shit off, and all I know

449
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 2: is I'm better than every nigga on this quarter.

450
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 1: It didn't matter who it was. And even if it

451
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: was somebody considered it better. I'm gonna be better venture

452
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna figure you OUTA that's how you look too, man.

453
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: When I start studying, you start studying. It was hard

454
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: to get a beam on like something that you did

455
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: consistently because you didn't normally go one way. And yeah,

456
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: you know another thing that you did great now that

457
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: you say zbo because I'm I'm putting it together and

458
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: your pump fakes. Man, you was one of the people

459
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 1: and I'm teaching everybody here right now that when you

460
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: rip through and you do a move, you have to

461
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: rip through and go because the defender coming you was

462
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,959
Speaker 1: probably the best at rippings and then putting a pump fake.

463
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say stopping because you can't stop it

464
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: all of it. But you you gave an a move

465
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: and then your b was to was to put something

466
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: on the end because you knew my momentum coming.

467
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 3: And here's your momentum against you.

468
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: How you how you? How you how you get into

469
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 1: something like that? You watching films just by again, you

470
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: soaking it up on job training type ship.

471
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 3: Like I said, when they came to me, who I

472
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 3: never wanted to be.

473
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: Just one dimensional? One dimensional? But they used to teach it. Then, Man,

474
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: you don't hear this shit no more at all. But

475
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 1: when I came in, they used to teach you how

476
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: to have a go to move.

477
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: And what was every big go to move? Fucking bullshit?

478
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: What happens when they stop it? You pass that bitch out?

479
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't even want that type of

480
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 3: situation to happen for me.

481
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: So I'm like, and you facing and you turn around

482
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: you I'm facing up right. That's different to.

483
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: It depends on who's guard me, all.

484
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: Right, because you're a dog too.

485
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: I got I got a big perk. I'm gonna get

486
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: past because I can't. I can't out body. I'm gonna

487
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: get past it, right, but I might have to make

488
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 2: two extra moves to get past them.

489
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Speaker 3: And it's all. And when I mean get past, it's

490
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: not my entire body.

491
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: It's my shoulder, because that's what you're all I gotta

492
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: get past you is my shoulders on a drive, on

493
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: a lay up whatever. I just gotta get my shoulders passed.

494
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: So that's always the angle I'm looking for. Can I

495
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: get my shoulders passed? So if I'm got perk, I'm

496
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Speaker 2: out quickly. I got a smaller guy, let's say, I

497
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 2: don't know, get me a big, a smaller big from bosh,

498
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use my body right.

499
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: I can't out quickly. I can't do quick in no doubt.

500
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: But hey, maybe he's super stronger that this motherfucker lifted today.

501
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: He taking them bumps well today. So I'm out quick.

502
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 2: You then bumpy right, and let's see how you handle that.

503
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: And you're constructing all these moves off of watching film

504
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: and then playing these people. Ain't nobody giving you.

505
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: No bad man.

506
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: You ain't even all feel damn. It's just feel damn.

507
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: So you're giving a real download like that where you're

508
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: just giving everybody you're playing. It's like a new script there.

509
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: So wow, and I got guy. You know you kind

510
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: of talking this motherfucker like I got Minte Moores play

511
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: with the Wizards and his favorite point guard really can't

512
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: guard me at all. But you know you'd be like, man,

513
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: I know all your moves. I can guard you. How

514
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: you know my moves and I don't know. I don't

515
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: know my moves. It's all field for us. About to

516
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: say you reacting. Everything is a reaction. You cut that

517
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: off from the spin and put the shoulder on you.

518
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: Now you're behind me. I might throw the pump fake

519
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: in too, just to get you off your feet. Then

520
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm stepping through getting bumped and when and I got

521
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: the angle to the layup that you can't block.

522
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: And you abang that motherfucker. You fucking around, don't around. Yeah,

523
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: I've seen you watch a couple of motherfuckers. Let me

524
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: get my feet under me. You're gonna be. You're gonna

525
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: be on a post. Talk about because you played with

526
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: some some great bigs in college, do you have a nemesis?

527
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: You got some who would you call? Who would you

528
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: call your nemesis? Who is that one player you played

529
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: where you not only look forward to playing with, but

530
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: they also raised your level.

531
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Speaker 3: In the league at the time.

532
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: At the time my nemesis, it was always for me

533
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: because I never really had like a partner crime because

534
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: at the time we was playing, it was two bigs.

535
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: Right, So you're talking about your days in Pelicans, you

536
00:24:59,240 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: know what I'm.

537
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: Saying that my I hate that word. It was still

538
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: kind of too big.

539
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: And I got you, I got you, I got you.

540
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: My name sisters, it was it would it would go

541
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 2: between uh Blake, Griffin and DJ and z Bo and

542
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: Mark because those were the only and I throw Perk

543
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: and surging there. Those were the guys I look forward

544
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: to every time.

545
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: So just how you're looking at it. And then yeah,

546
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: because and then it's a lot of buddy buddying off

547
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: you buddy buddy, meaning that I'm Guarden. I'm Guarden cuz,

548
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: but the nigga who planed Aflorida five, he help.

549
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: Make sure you're here. Now. We don't want to do

550
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: to get off.

551
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: So z Bo got you, but he z Bo's job

552
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: is to make you spears so Mark can come beat

553
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: your ship. So that's called buddy buddy. And what's so

554
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: crazy is that, man, I'm telling you, I studied you

555
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: like a book. Your first move was for the second.

556
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: Guy, appsluely. I'm never off.

557
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: Code the puff fake get Mark shash and hit his

558
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: ass sudden Lloyd, you had a real like a I

559
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: don't know how much of Kevin McHale did you watch,

560
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: but you really had a lot of Kevin McHale. You know,

561
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: niggas thought you was coming with like a bolo kind

562
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: of debo kind of shack when.

563
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: You know I had that, dude.

564
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying it was hard to watch

565
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: film of you. Bro. If I'm being one honded, like

566
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: if I'm coming middle and I'm anticipating, I can't even

567
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: do that because if I if I, if I come

568
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: to it, You're drop. And you know what I'm saying.

569
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: So I guarded you. I guarded you. I can only

570
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: remember one time I guarded your dog and I was

571
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: trying to make you spin. I was trying to I

572
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: was trying to go to your skill set. And I

573
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: remember one time. I mean, if y'all looked this up

574
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: when I played cousin, you probably remember this, but I do.

575
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: I tried. I tried to strip you. I tried to

576
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: rip you, and you you spun out that motherfucking slow

577
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: mo on my ass like like the matrix man I left.

578
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, I got a whole crewl niggas, maybe a

579
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: big full like you big feller, got some ship with

580
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: it because the first thing I'm gonna do, I'm gonna

581
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: make you go to a being a c move and

582
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: I was like, Man, this nigga pump Face is killing me.

583
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm not a nigga go for pump Face. I'm the

584
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: one who go actually get you going and ship and

585
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: get I was like, man, And that's when I knew, No,

586
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: he got a middle game with this the middle game,

587
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: and and Do would always break it down. And I

588
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: always wonder, like, I wonder, who is this nemesis? Man

589
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: who always get you say DJ and Blake.

590
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 2: I mean those games, I wouldn't really say I had

591
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: a nemesis because I'm gonna keep it a buck. Wasn't

592
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: nobody fucking with me? I'm gonna just keep it all

593
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: the way on. Nobody was fucking me as a dat nobody.

594
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: What's the days of I've always wanted to notice, what's

595
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: the summer what's the summer summertime running Kentucky? Like when

596
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: his cat when it's a d when it's John Wall,

597
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: when it's Doe. You know, show y'all, ain't are you

598
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: fucking y'all? Aint did a cookout in the summertime in Kentucky?

599
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: On cook It's a different error, bro, Bro, you got

600
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: to bring to bring the guys all together. Man, go

601
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: to cat house, talk to young boys who right there,

602
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: all the young boys who went college. Right now, all

603
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: y'all go back. I'm talking about what all y'all fuck everything? Man,

604
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Kentucky got that. Y'all got that, We got, y'all got that.

605
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: Y'all got that.

606
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Y'all got that. Y'all got that. Y'all y'all damn there

607
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: like Mason's got.

608
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: Y'all got a whole class of ain't off roofing pat

609
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: Riley and the motherfuckers don't even mass burn like people

610
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: don't even remember, Like, Bro, I have it.

611
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm a historian talk about Kentucky in just those days, bro,

612
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: Like I hate to even go there, but that's why

613
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: I went.

614
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Like, that's the most fun I've ever had playing basketball.

615
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: Like it was about basketball.

616
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: It won no politics, it went no bullshit team he

617
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: was it was a brotherhood.

618
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: I knew my guy in my bank.

619
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: You know, I had it is but it was nothing

620
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: was It was never cloudy, it was never no gray

621
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: or everything was black and white.

622
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: Then okay, let me ask you this. I got to

623
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: set this up. Glad you said that, right, because in

624
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: the days of where we have ni l in college.

625
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Now if someone would have said to you the Marcus

626
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Cousins instead of going to the league with nil being

627
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: where it is today in college because someone possibly proposition

628
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: you to do four years in college with being able

629
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: to be paid like you were in the NBA. The

630
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: league a little different, the league nine figures, high eight figures,

631
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: but to get a high seven figures in college to

632
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: make five million dollars in high school? Bro, Bro, you

633
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: following the nil deals? Are you sing? Yeah?

634
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: How?

635
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, I asked Peter, is going

636
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: to be a time where we see four year players

637
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: come back to college to do two years, three year

638
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: and coach in college just resign those players.

639
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: It depends. It depends on the talent level.

640
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, because you there's always going to be

641
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: some kid. I don't think every kid is gonna take

642
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: the G League grow. I don't think everybody's preparing for that.

643
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Some guys need that. I was a guy that needed

644
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I could have came straight up. I

645
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: was too naive, too ignorant to everything going on.

646
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: Shit.

647
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: I was that when I came in, so I was

648
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: even more coming out. I was straight out of the

649
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: jungle guy. So it depends on certain situation. Also depends

650
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: on the talent of the player, and we can use

651
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: examples guys like a Tyler Hansbrough.

652
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: Who was you know, a college legend.

653
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: I think that type of guy would benefit from that

654
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: greatly because once he gets to the other side, like

655
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: the NBA, it's not the same thing, you know what

656
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I think a guy like that Ben's

657
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: But then you have a John Wall, why the funk

658
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: would you stay for you?

659
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: You gotta go to the league.

660
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: So I think it's a great option, and I'm happy

661
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: about it because one even the guys that aren't as

662
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: talented that can go to that next level, they can

663
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: they still do that same grind and sacrifice. Right the

664
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: motherfucker feet was hurting just like the next guy.

665
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Facts. But does it help? But does it save college?

666
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: It saves college college?

667
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: Man, that ship.

668
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm just watching college.

669
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: At this point.

670
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: College is they they're giving their reparations. Man, at this point,

671
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: they've robbed us enough. Let's just keep it a buck.

672
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: These ain't number of reparations, bro.

673
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: It's bad.

674
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: Man. That shits sick when you really talk about it,

675
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: when you really.

676
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Sit there and indeed, deep into the ship that they

677
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: had going on in college and how they treated these

678
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: athletes that' Sh'S si. This ain't number of reparations, man,

679
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: thinking the funk about that college. I watched how many

680
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: people and I always that can tell and and this

681
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: is not to contuck, because this is just the time

682
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: we was in. Man, I'm going we having tournaments and

683
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: fucking cancn Mexico and there's three thousand people with the

684
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: cousins in Kentucky shirt.

685
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: But the vendor outside he just made sixty bands with

686
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: my name. But I get in trouble for a free meals?

687
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: Come on, brother, or a drink Cords anybody like what anything?

688
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: This nigga just made sixty bands off my name and

689
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: I don't. I can't get a free meal these reparations, bro,

690
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: give the fun out. No college, don't care about No.

691
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: I got love for Kentucky, no doubt. But the n

692
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: C double A and kids, mind?

693
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: Did you ever trained? Was you ever trained players?

694
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

695
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Is it players that you watched that you want to?

696
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

697
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: Who are some of the favorite players to watch? One

698
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: or two of them?

699
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: My love Big Joe.

700
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: Joe reminds me a lot of myself, just with everything

701
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: he can do so.

702
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: Joe l for sure, I like Yo. I'm a fan

703
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: of Cat.

704
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I think those three are the best offensive

705
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: bigs in the league. But the guys that I think

706
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: are right on the cusp and like, I would love

707
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: opportunity to work with kind of under the radar.

708
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: Wyndale Carter, Oh yeah, yeah.

709
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: He had a lot of good bones. Man. He wants

710
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: to be a little bit too perimeterve for me. Though

711
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: he got it. Though he shoot the three, he got it.

712
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: He's strong as hell on.

713
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: He reminds me of Bro. He got it, He got that,

714
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: he got it.

715
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Bro. The fact that he can play outside and come down,

716
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: get you the jump, come back and count.

717
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: Give me one deal.

718
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I'll turn out into shout the Windale.

719
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: Man.

720
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: He listen a lot of times when I'm watching him. Man,

721
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: he'll finish when I thought he should have. He should have.

722
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: Just sometimes you gotta figure it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

723
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: go figure young to your baby? How old is it?

724
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: What thell like just for three years? Four years?

725
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: Four or five? And damn or what is.

726
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: It when dal have been to leave five years?

727
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: Your baby?

728
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: God?

729
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: Damn your baby. So I would love a chance. I think,

730
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: I like, I think he got a lot of game.

731
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: Who else is out there? I like Scottie Barnes, Yeah,

732
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: I like scott I like Scotty Barns. I think I

733
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: could add a dynamic to this game. I mean he's

734
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: a more periminive oriented guy that he's such a big forward. Yes,

735
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: he developed anything nitty to around the monster.

736
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: He can play point forward right now. He I didn't

737
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: know his I didn't know his handle was like that.

738
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: Got a lot.

739
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know his handle was like that. I love

740
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: Scotty though. Scotty Man is one of my favorite six

741
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: years six years for Windal sam Mitchell shout to Sam Mitchell,

742
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: man he was he was, uh, he was telling about Windale.

743
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: I guess he was doing some mentorship with Windale.

744
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: Man.

745
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: I got to ask you this man, Man, I think

746
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 1: we was outside hollered about Man. I gotta I gotta

747
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: ask you this.

748
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: Man.

749
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: It looks like, well, I'm gonna make this a two

750
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: parter because I got to ask you where a game going?

751
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: The game super European. That's a whole nother story right right.

752
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: But when I'm watching, when I'm watching the league, man

753
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: man joke about to win his third He's about to

754
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: win his third straight MVP. And when I look at

755
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: the abundance of talent in the league, I can't sit

756
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: up here and say like, oh my, I got like

757
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: I can't sit up here. I'm got joking right here

758
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: and everybody right here like three straighter road. Bro, Man,

759
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: you gotta give me something morning man.

760
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: I mean this is no not to Yogis because he's

761
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: an incredible and he's a Hall of Fame time.

762
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: I was going hell of a player. I was going

763
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: hell of a player. I was gonna ask you, I've

764
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: witnessed it personally. Is it the system? Though? Boogie? Could

765
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: you picked him up?

766
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: He created the system. I don't think this was a

767
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: system put around. I think he created that system because

768
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: he's that talmented.

769
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: So the offense step, I think he just using yokas

770
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: that stuff. You know, A long time ago seventy six,

771
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: the Portland Trailblazers used Bill Walton like this where he

772
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: was he was just doing all this with Johnny Davis

773
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: and all the guards they had. Do you see is

774
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: it something like that where he just they just playing

775
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: through him and he just making everybody better.

776
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: He blowing Billy out the water, bro, He blowing Billy

777
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: out the water.

778
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying in the times where in that time

779
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: in seventy seventy six, seventy seven, the Trail Blazers was

780
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: using Bill that way.

781
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: That was more, It was more and so half court.

782
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: This is a full court game. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

783
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: He's blowing Bill after they still bring it all down,

784
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: throwing it to Bill. Bill, then he's making it. He

785
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: going through it, He going through him, same shit, he's

786
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: bringing it up.

787
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he initiating it. Yeah, Bill wasn't initiated this. He was.

788
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray's taking the ball out, giving it to him.

789
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: Facts, Damn, that's a play coming down.

790
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: He's created the system.

791
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: But I'm not okay with it being three m vps

792
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: in the row because it then becomes a conversation of

793
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: is this the best basketball player to ever touch a basketball?

794
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: And I think we can all agree on that and

795
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: say it's not. I'm not saying he can't be, not

796
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: saying he doesn't deserve more down the road, but at

797
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: this stage in his career, I'm not okay with saying

798
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: that he hasn't won anything. He hasn't been to a final,

799
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: Like it's a lot of things still in play for that.

800
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: So that's my only concern.

801
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: And now this is we're in the conversation he's at

802
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: this point he's the best center of all.

803
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 3: Times with three in a row.

804
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, three in a row.

805
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: Hed we're putting them over the likes of Shaquille O'Neil King,

806
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: Elijah Tim Duncan. And it's just like Will Chamberlain, It's like,

807
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: that's a that's a tough conversation to have because we've

808
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: seen what these guys have done, We've seen how their

809
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: careers have panned out. So can we sit here and say,

810
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: right now today the Yokish not only the best big

811
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: to ever play, but the best basketball player to ever

812
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: touch the ball with three MVPs in the row. And

813
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm not comfortable saying that. I'm just not comfortable saying that.

814
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: And he go and it looks like and you know,

815
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: he hasn't won it, but but he's averaging a triple doubles.

816
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see him not winning us.

817
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: But I also don't understand that analogy either, because when

818
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: Russ was, you know, he made it cool to do

819
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: that again after Oscar and he did it two seasons

820
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: back then, but on the second season, it's like, oh, whatever.

821
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: Right, we did, so why are we now glorifying? And

822
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: now you know we didn't.

823
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: We didn't give it shine as Scheck, And when.

824
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: We didn't, we was off. We was on to the

825
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: next guy. So why are we giving him this shine

826
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: to a guy that's not all?

827
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: And I got it.

828
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: Last year he had an unhealthy team. He carried a

829
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: team to the playoffs.

830
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: Cool, he has a fully healthy team.

831
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: He's averaging the triple double. At this point, it's a

832
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: norm because it's the.

833
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: Same thing that Russ did. So why is it now

834
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: being like this is so amazing? Let's let's move my

835
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: personal opinion. I'm going with Joel this year, Joel got

836
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: a chance. I think with this new young generation of players.

837
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 2: Outside of bron Kadie and all those guys, this new generation,

838
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: those three guys are the most dominant. Two of them

839
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: already gotten their flowers. Let this young guy get his flowers, man,

840
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: because he deserves it. How much how much longer does

841
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: he have to put in his work to get his flowers?

842
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: He's leading the league in scoring.

843
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard.

844
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: It's not hard.

845
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: The league always looks at the teams that are winning.

846
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: That's not true. I'm telling you just smoke on two guys.

847
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Wasn't winning last year?

848
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: He wasn't. Russ wasn't winning that year.

849
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: What they go to They go to the efficiency ship,

850
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: What's I don't know what.

851
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: That's why it changed. It's like, who do we love

852
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: this year? What storyline will we pushing this there?

853
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it a buck and not taking anything

854
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: away from Russ, But it became the storyline when Kadi left.

855
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: What's solid?

856
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: Then once it happened, they want to the next.

857
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Story and then he did it the next year.

858
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 2: So if it's about being number one and winning, steps

859
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: should have multiple facts.

860
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: Bron should have multiple shit book. Devin bookersh have MVB.

861
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: They were number one in the west Man for a

862
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. What are we talking about? Strong arguments?

863
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: Hear what you're saying.

864
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: So, I don't know what the requirements are to become

865
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: MVP because it's kind of all over the who do

866
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: we like this year? Who's the favorite? Who we kissing

867
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: the ass to this year? Let's just keep it a buck.

868
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what the requirements are.

869
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Can you be in today's game and be a big

870
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: and not have two things a three ball in a

871
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: year row. You gotta have those things to be a

872
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Speaker 1: starting center.

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Speaker 3: Nah, you ain't gotta.

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00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: You don't have to be You're gonna be a superstar center.

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00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: To be a superstar center, you have to have those.

876
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: To be a max center, you have to have those.

877
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: To be a star center, you don't. You got to

878
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: be able to You gotta be able to jump high,

879
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: run fast, and be athletic.

880
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: They don't have to all go together, but that's what

881
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: you need to be a starter. Are you shocked at

882
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: what you're seeing from a guy like brook Lopez?

883
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: He don't know, he don't know. I know what that

884
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: dude do.

885
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: Shot the logan dog.

886
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Speaker 3: I know what he do. I've been on the other

887
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Speaker 3: side of that, right, I know what he do.

888
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: He a quiet monster too.

889
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: You know, he just got kind of stripped of his privilege.

890
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: You know, it gets to a point in your career

891
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: they just kind of like, nah, you ain't that got

892
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 2: stripped of his privileges. The boy caund ball always good.

893
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: But you know what's crazy? Brooks out side shot. It's like,

894
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: what's keeping him afloat in this whole thing. His three

895
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: ball came out of note like since I think I think,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, like fifteen sixteen. I think every

897
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: since fifteen sixteen. He's taking this this voyage on like

898
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: shooting the three in this he's shooting. He's shooting the

899
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: motherfucker from the parking lot.

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00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah he is.

901
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: He shooting that motherfucker from the parking lite.

902
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: Huh, he.

903
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: He is, and he might. He got a good chance

904
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Speaker 1: of Mike being able to win a Defensive Player of

905
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Speaker 1: the Year.

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Speaker 3: Man.

907
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's the first or second in contest

908
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: in shots and shots block. Let me claxon, Let me claxon.

909
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: He having a good ass year or two years. Man,

910
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: he had been crazy. What's are you into the podcast game? Yeah,

911
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: you jumped in the air.

912
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 3: You're going I've been.

913
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: I've been so many people has told me to, you know,

914
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: start using my voice more.

915
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: What people want to hear from you. I'm talking about.

916
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: Good friend of mindre mind.

917
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: He's probably been one of the biggest advocates like, man,

918
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: get you a podcast, go speak no doubt. So it's

919
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: probably in the words I know absolutely, you know absolutely.

920
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: This will probably be one of your favorite things because

921
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: this is your chance to be able to fire back

922
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: or be able to give absolutely. But anything that comes

923
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: out on anything that we ain't feeling, we come on here,

924
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: we speak about it and don't nobody. We're not We're

925
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: not censored. We fuck got fuck fuck. You know what

926
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's the beauty of it, having partners

927
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Speaker 1: versus a boss. You know what I'm saying, coming in

928
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: working with people. What's next for you?

929
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 3: Man?

930
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna finish. I'm gonna squeeze this lemon keep.

931
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm thirty two, I got a lot of

932
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: hoop left in. I'm gonna squeeze this limit. With that,

933
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: I still gotta a burning desire to play. So if

934
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: it's you know, the league or you know, somewhere else,

935
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: i'ma I'm gonna.

936
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: Go finish playing ball. Are you watching Dwight?

937
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

938
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: I see d white Man Dwight over there.

939
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Speaker 3: Motherfucker them three thirty seven nine, Like, man, what.

940
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Shout to the white man?

941
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: You about to get a maximum time half man in Tiwan?

942
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: Get that, man, It's Holloway's Flowers.

943
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: Ship getting it done because people don't know. Man, you

944
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: see the numbers, you gotta go get them how has

945
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: he gotta put the buck You gotta put it in

946
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: the bucket, you hear me?

947
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: How's he not time sent?

948
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Man? Listen, you know they got a whole script on

949
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: this joint. Man. They got a whole script on what

950
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: they want. They got a whole script on what they

951
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: wanted to look like. They got a whole script of

952
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to say. You know, you gotta you

953
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: gotta stay original to who you are.

954
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: Man.

955
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: You gotta stay true to who you are and what

956
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: you're doing. If not, you know, you get you get

957
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: sideswiped out here, get lost in this ship straight up

958
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: and down. Man. Listen, you need some help on that podcast.

959
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: You let me know, bro, just I'm in this for

960
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: real and anything you want, gonna talk about it any

961
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: time you come in here, you let me know. Man,

962
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: it's a safe place you feel as my dog man Man,

963
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: the one and only DeMarcus Cousins a k A B.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Thirty five