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Speaker 1: watching Steelers practice here live for the final couple of times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: down the home stretch, Bud. We are in the home

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Speaker 1: Fencent College, which is where Matt and I are at.

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Speaker 1: And well, the practice is unfolding here in front of

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Speaker 1: us and right now working on what they're calling is

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Speaker 1: it's kind of some bunch formation stuff, is what there.

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Speaker 2: It's three receivers and to start the drill, they had

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Speaker 2: a back at a traditional backspot, a tight end and

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Speaker 2: a receiver that one. They had three of them bunch together.

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Speaker 2: I think their half field reads is the way I

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Speaker 2: would probably best describe it. Instead of having, you know,

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Speaker 2: all five of your skill guys out there, you have

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Speaker 2: three of them and you're pretty much reading half the

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Speaker 2: field and it turns into a man concept, you know,

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Speaker 2: on defense quickly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. On the other side, they were working on some

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Speaker 1: run block sucking stuff. Now that has broken up here

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Speaker 1: and we get the final few snaps of this, uh,

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Speaker 2: This is a really hard drill on the defense. Everybody

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Speaker 2: realizes that, I mean you got you got.

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Speaker 1: Four guys to cover three, but you're you know they're

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Speaker 2: You know there's rush guys off right. Yeah, but it's

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Speaker 2: great for the quarterback and I look to go through

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Speaker 2: your reads super quick, you know. And that was a nice,

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Speaker 2: nice play there over the middle. And it's a a

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Speaker 2: drill I don't remember seeing here often throughout the camp.

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Speaker 2: Oh they have today. I know this year they have,

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Speaker 2: but I just mean in previous years I've seen it

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Speaker 2: with two man concepts, three man concepts. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would think. So you kind of

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Speaker 1: go through your progressions, uh quickly there. Now we get

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Speaker 1: a little inside run coming up. Okay, do you know

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Speaker 1: how practice ends today? Do we have a two minute

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Speaker 1: move the ball? First down field number one? I've got

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Speaker 1: the field here. So we had a good seven shots

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Speaker 1: right before we went on the air as well. We

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Speaker 1: did in full path today. By the way, interesting Mike,

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Speaker 1: tom it was three to three offense versus defense, and

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Speaker 1: Tomlin called the first team offense back out onto the

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Speaker 1: And the first team offense, which had been just one

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Speaker 1: for three or one for four. It's started slow, right,

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Speaker 1: it started slow. Uh, you get a touchdown pass to

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Speaker 2: We got eleven on eleven here though, hope there's the

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Speaker 2: jet sweet not any of that.

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Speaker 1: No, he sniffed that out pretty well, as did Alex

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Speaker 1: Highsmith setting the edge hears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of motion by Austin there before.

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Speaker 1: Smith really with with with his work on Friarmuth to

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Speaker 1: just off the line of scrimmage forced that out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly, really well done by both those guys.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I if you're gonna run jet sweeps

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Speaker 2: A lot here in their edge guys were great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well that's the other part that better than doing it

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Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Okay, more of a traditional downhill run with the fullback.

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Speaker 1: There speaking Keanu betten back today, good good, good, he

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Speaker 2: Yeah I should know this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who anyone sitting today or taking the day

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Speaker 1: Nate Herbig was sitting out, Trey Norwood sitting out, Kz's

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now Warren's in the backfield and.

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Speaker 1: They run the football here and he bounces that to

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Speaker 2: It's a lit hard to judge here.

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Speaker 2: You kind of bounced it to his right. Looked like

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Speaker 1: We get Damn Moore at left tackle. No surprise there, No, No,

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Speaker 1: that's been the case here. Your starting offensive line is

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Speaker 2: He did not practice Ayward motion and gun or motion.

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Speaker 1: They had all kinds of penetration on that one, led

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this probably is their last day in pads.

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Speaker 2: Eye a traditional fullback to a wing an emotion they

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Speaker 1: Nice job there, Nick, and just getting a hand on

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Speaker 1: Anthony McFarlane and not letting go beat Friarmouth cleanly.

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Speaker 2: He's her big. Yeah, he's good. I'm pretty convinced.

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Speaker 2: The practice translated to the game and right.

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Speaker 2: Right right, Golden doesn't have long arms either. He's had

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Speaker 1: They had like three guys pulling out in front of that.

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Speaker 2: And Robinson, I'm sorry that was that was fun to

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Speaker 1: Andson got out there, Gentry got out there. A lot

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Speaker 2: He's got a big bunch of big bodies running around

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Speaker 1: Is once in a while they'll mix a passing though,

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Speaker 2: Play action and then yeah, don't cheat on me, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: Since then, mid seventies.

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Speaker 1: Had some Kendrick Green here in the backfield. Now he

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Speaker 2: The way I saw it. Hayward and Green ran into

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one just didn't work. That was David Parly.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got Green was supposed to get across

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Speaker 2: Yeah, defense is flying around.

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Speaker 2: They kind of let him go free because they're running

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Speaker 1: Anderson where he told me he was going to play

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Speaker 2: Moved his guy opened the hole again. These runs are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lall that.

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Speaker 1: Saint fncent College. Mason Rudolph under center. We get a

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Speaker 2: Firemouth out there though with this group, it's funny throughout

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Speaker 1: Look at that.

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Speaker 2: Nice play there forty eight. Roche read that well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Friarmuth might have wanted to put a foot in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he probably regrets how that went.

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Speaker 1: Mean it was like a five yard pickup, but it

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Speaker 2: You should have you should have got more out of Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Roche played it well.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thank you for coming to camp. You probably don't

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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's some value to that. Yeah, right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: they're not on the one anymore. They're kicking these from

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Speaker 1: I've been watching Calvin Austin field the punts here and

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Speaker 1: Aunt Larry Obi joke out there. That's arm On Watts working. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So it's third and five is what they're practicing. They

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Speaker 2: I mean, just Dan Moore flirting with right tackle stuff,

440
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 2: and yeah, Jones comes on strong. I mean it's sure

441
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: like seems like it is. He's right back in now.

442
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what we saw that with with Spencer

443
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: Anderson last week actually as well. Uh where if you

444
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: remember on the one on ones he false started and

445
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: they threw through Jones. So if you false start as

446
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, they pull you out for a place,

447
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 1: so you can probably get yelled at. Yeah, you fee

448
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: you feel she go stand by coach, feel shame, and

449
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: then get back in.

450
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: There, get right back in and try to block tj.

451
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 1: Ok. So we still have ones against one. So that

452
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: was a nice pass by Kenny Pickett. Yeah, it was

453
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin. And that's the one thing we didn't see

454
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: in the game. Matt that I thought was interesting. Said,

455
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: there's a snap lit blitz up the middle that would strong. Yeah,

456
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: that would have been a sack. He gets the ball

457
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: away to Deontay Johnson, and I haven't.

458
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: Seen Hokum as a blitzer as much as some of

459
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: the others, but that was a nice clean blitz and

460
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: he got there.

461
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, right after the as soon as he

462
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: saw the opening, took off up the middle, showed some

463
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: speed and burst. But the opening drive everybody was so

464
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: happy with. Against against the Buccaneers, Alan Robinson didn't have

465
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: any catches. No, wasn't targeted. Uh. Connor Hayward's another guy

466
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 1: we've seen out here with that first unit of times

467
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: that wasn't targeted.

468
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, six completions, seven targets.

469
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: Didn't see Calvin So some of the weapons that we've

470
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: seen out here in used with the first team. I mean,

471
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: we saw a glimpse of the first team offense.

472
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: Right, but there's more to come there and waymore to come. Yeah,

473
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter. There's a lot of pressure. Yeah, Leo

474
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: up the middle was.

475
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: Still looking, still looking, still looking, and he throws it away. Yeah,

476
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: that's a mister whisky in there. Now that the line

477
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: was kind of overwhelmed there, they had like six seven

478
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: guys coming there. Yeah, lee Al look really good.

479
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: It's the second time I've really noticed him. And I'm

480
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: not sure who.

481
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: The edge guy was to this side, Paralys. I think

482
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: it was Paralys again. Again, he's a sneaky one to

483
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: may analysis. He played every special team snap, he played

484
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: quite a bit on defense. Keeps showing up here like

485
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: I might put him ahead of Rochet and for that

486
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: fifth guy. And if he can blow people away on

487
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: special teams, who knows, that's tough.

488
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: That's tough, it really is.

489
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, he may get be one of those guys

490
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: that say Sunday call up or something like that, or

491
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: injury away from coming off the practice squad. I mean, yeah,

492
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: but it's an aim to know. And now our guy,

493
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: Spencer Anderson at right tackle now, guys center before Now

494
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: he's moving again here a.

495
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: Nice road by Mitch their rolling left throws a strike

496
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: going to an outside route there.

497
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: See where he's coming up here, and it looks like

498
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be at right tackle again for this drill.

499
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: You said you spoke to Spencer did.

500
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll hear from him later in the show. Cool.

501
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: Everyone talks about how well spoken he is and smart,

502
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: very he has a master's degree and you know right

503
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: he's he's.

504
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: Got a master's degree and offensive line play like versatility.

505
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really think he's making the team though.

506
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's at right tackle. There's a bunch just off

507
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: of his right shoulder here, and now we get some

508
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: movement there. Wonderful. Raven Clark's in a little bit of trouble.

509
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I think he very well maybe. Yeah.

510
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you got three tackles that are definitely gonna

511
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: make it, and if Anderson can make it, can plee

512
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: a fourth.

513
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: He did that the line screen, Yeah, idn't see who

514
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: got the hand up there, but he did a nice

515
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: job of shutting off the aforementioned uh dave of paralyss

516
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: on that one. I think Leal got that one, but

517
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm not just the way he's reacting after. Yeah, he's

518
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: a big guy, and.

519
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: He's a big guy.

520
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: He was just sitting there like, boy, he looks taller

521
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: to me all of a sudden. It's very that's something

522
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: to do with it. Yeah, what's what's Barrells is listening?

523
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: Parrels is listed at six three, two fifty five. He

524
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: looks to me. Yeah, he does not look six three

525
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: standing next to Marvin Lee.

526
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: No, Leo's not six six.

527
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: He looks like it's standing there.

528
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited about the le Al Benton combination. Yeah,

529
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: and what all they can do for this defensive line,

530
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: keep guys fresh, you know, while getting better.

531
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: Well, they're all coming again. The much better job by

532
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: mister Bisky getting the ball quickly, Yeah, against the Blitz.

533
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: Instant separation by Boykin. Boykin and Neil kind of having

534
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: words here, Lee Al. I'm sorry what I call him, Neil.

535
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's something I want to do there.

536
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: If I'm Boykin does n't back down, I mean he

537
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: throws his body around on special teams blocking, but I

538
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: still like, I don't know if I want to test

539
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: that against Lee Allen. No wide receiver versus the tackle

540
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: usually doesn't go well unless you can run away from him. Okay,

541
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: now we get Mason Rudolph in there with the third

542
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: team offense and third team defense.

543
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: Washington in motion now bringing a receiver in tight. Get

544
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: a bunch to.

545
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: The left, just Fitzpatrick again, good pocket, nice over the

546
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: middle throw there. Yeah, nice touch here over the linebacker's head.

547
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: Well done, That was Fitzpatrick. Great Manea, Fitzpatrick's not bad either.

548
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: No, he shows up every practice too. I don't think

549
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: he's a special teamer.

550
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't believe that he is either, But that doesn't

551
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: mean he won't get a shot to do right, you know,

552
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: I do want to. I think he was out there

553
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: in the game, now that I think about special teams. Yeah, yeah,

554
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't certain that the game. Late in the game,

555
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: I was doing some writing, uh, you know, because I

556
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: have to have the game story episodes, so everything ends,

557
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: so you kind of lose track of who's out out

558
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: there and those kind of things. Okay, single back, we

559
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: get a little motion there from Hayward from right to

560
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: left to the other.

561
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: Wing corner blitz op some confusion picking it up too.

562
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: The back end. The uhm McCollum was the interior lineman

563
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: that was bounced down coming out in protection to handle that,

564
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: and he kind of got.

565
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: Tied up with the back.

566
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: Who's wrong in that situation, I don't know.

567
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't tell. It wasn't just focused on that,

568
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: but I mean, he looked like obviously the lesser athlete

569
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: than the corner coming off, and he was kind of bumbling,

570
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: stumbling trying to get him, and then the running back

571
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: kind of got in his way and there was bad spacing.

572
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's good that the running back sees that.

573
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: You want the running back to see that pressure coming

574
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: from the outside, yeah, but you also wants your inside

575
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: blocker who's got that side to see it as well. Right,

576
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: And they ran into each other.

577
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: In the real world, if it takes a back and

578
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: an interior linement to block a corner somebody else, you know.

579
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: They're showing blitz again. This time they back out of

580
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: it and the.

581
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: Center nobody snapped the ball.

582
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Spencer Anderson, the center did not snap the football

583
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: that hurts progress a little bit too. Yeah, if I

584
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: was on him or the quarterback or what. Yeah, I

585
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: think with with Nate herbig out today, they wanted to

586
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: take a look at Anderson at center a little but again,

587
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: he hadn't played a lot there.

588
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 2: No, he's very capable. I think he's played a lot

589
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: of it at Maryland he did.

590
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: That's where he kind of finally settled in. I think

591
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: the year.

592
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: That's unhappy themselves. I bet that was on him.

593
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he must have missed the snap count, you know,

594
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: very difficult to do what he's doing. Yeah, it is

595
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: tackle guard and played three positions in the game just today,

596
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: He's played three positions. Yeah, all right, get the blocking

597
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: set up. Rudolph delivers it to Keem Butler. Yeah, big

598
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: catching radius, catches it somewhat behind him, hauls it in

599
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: with big, big, soft hands, and that's going to do

600
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: it for that period. Now we're gonna do some first

601
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: and second down work here. Do you think this is

602
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: the end? Then? After this one? No, I don't think.

603
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh good, there's another special teams and they get seven

604
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: on seven good in the red zone. Defensive and offensive

605
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: one on ones going on as well. On field two

606
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: and then the final session will be move the ball

607
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: is what they're calling it. I'm curious what that means. Yeah, cool,

608
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: we got a lot left them. Move the ball is

609
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: always the idea.

610
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: Is it not well offensively depends which way he'll look

611
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: at it.

612
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: Okay, this looks like this is one on ones again.

613
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: Washington's out there with the ones.

614
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: It is first and ten. This will be first intent passing,

615
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: whereas the previous one was in run. So you see

616
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: more passing out of this. Get nausea Harris to his left,

617
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: double receivers to that side. We get some motion airy

618
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: pickings at the snap and draw right off the bat

619
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: draw to Harris up the middle. You don't see a

620
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: lot of Pickens in motion at the snap.

621
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: No, no, I think he's more of a static outside guy.

622
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: But it's not, you know, not a bad thing to

623
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: show something like that. Every no, no, no, no.

624
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: You see Deontay a fair amount. You always see tight

625
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: ends running backs. They're always moving in this offense.

626
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: Now they're flopping out Armam Watson bringing fifty seven dem

627
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: Trevius Adams in to play next to Camp. It's play

628
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: next camp. So that's a good sign for him.

629
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: I say, Adams.

630
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I keep thinking he's gonna get knocked off his spot,

631
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but he keeps hanging around. Right,

632
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: He's a better penetrator than the other nose. Just a

633
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: real stick right in there. Ye, deep slant. That would

634
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: have been a nice game. That's what we didn't get

635
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: to see much of from Deontay Johnson last year is

636
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: him catching the ball in the move, like coming back

637
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: to the ball. Things of that, you or a curl

638
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: or you know.

639
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: I know he gets a lot of heat for running

640
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: backwards to try to get forward, but some of that

641
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: was because that's the route taking him there, you know,

642
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean as opposed to hitt him straight back.

643
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: To the ball like that. Right. That was one you

644
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: know you saw more of with him and Ben Roethlisberger

645
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: where you hit him in stride over the moon allow

646
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: his you know, he's he was an All Pro return guy.

647
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not defishing with the ball in his hands.

648
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: So I do you know you do want to see

649
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: more of that this year?

650
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And we saw pickings after the catch. He's got

651
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: that ability as well. Austin has a lot of it.

652
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: But really just a great throw there, I mean, yeah,

653
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: like eight yards past the line of scrimmage, and Deontay

654
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: was off to the races there.

655
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: It was probably half hour ago. You were on the

656
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Speaker 2: other side of the press box and boy Pickett had

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Speaker 2: a beautiful throw down the left sideline. That was a

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Speaker 2: strike and arm strength throw and it was a nice

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Speaker 2: pass there to out Austin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't you know, that's just Austin being an

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Speaker 1: outside receiver coming back for the ball. Yeah, And that's

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Speaker 1: what he did at Memphis Pickens pick It does not

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Speaker 1: get credit for having a good arm at all. I know.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a misnomer that he's got a weak arm.

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Speaker 2: It's not weak.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there's we'll go over this list a little

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Speaker 1: bit later in the show.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that yeah, ESPN where all the quarterback

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Speaker 2: attributes were rated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he only made well. None of the young guys

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Speaker 1: were on there. Was Fields was here there, Richard some

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Speaker 1: of the other guys receiving vote like Richardson was in

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Speaker 1: there for the strongest arm. He hasn't thrown an NFL.

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Speaker 2: Pass right right now, we'll talk it.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like we'll talk about it. I went through it too.

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad list. It's just TJ watch would

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Speaker 1: blew that one. He just yeah, beat Zach Gentry off

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Speaker 1: the snap there and TJ watching TJ watt type things.

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Speaker 2: Kean Neil showing a little aggression at the end there too.

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Speaker 1: Good to see him back out there. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: means we'll probably see him in the game on Saturday

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Speaker 1: as well. I'd be shocked we don't. I was worried,

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Speaker 1: you know, if he didn't role. Yeah, if he didn't

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Speaker 1: practice today or tomorrow, then would be tough.

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Speaker 2: That might have been tough.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he's back out there today shows

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Speaker 1: me he knows the difference between hurt and injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good way putting it and.

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Speaker 1: Shows me, you know, he's playing with a little bit

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Speaker 1: of urgency. Yeah, no, I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: Curiously, his role in the game against like against Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully you know, the rest of the time there

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Speaker 2: we got the two's. Warren comes back to the backfield,

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Speaker 2: Robinson goes with him the big blitz from the third level.

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Speaker 1: Yeh, Trent and Simpson coming get it out to Cody

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Speaker 1: White and he turns it inside. A lot of times

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Speaker 1: you expect maybe to go outside the receiver to go

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Speaker 1: outside on that and James Pere had the outside shoulder.

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Speaker 1: White goes to the inside and picks up some yards

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Speaker 1: after the catch. There. That's what you want to if

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Speaker 1: you're you're the defendive defender in that situation, you want

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Speaker 1: that guy you have more help. You want that guy

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Speaker 1: turning to where you've got help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to force him to linebackers

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Speaker 2: and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: He turns, he turns to the outside and gets around you.

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Speaker 1: You're you're in trouble. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: No, then you've got no help.

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Speaker 1: Where we got going at Trubisky out there? We get

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Speaker 1: Jones back at left tackle, McFarland's loan back Kendrick Green

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Speaker 1: at center. I get double receivers to the to the right,

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Speaker 1: one single receiver to the left. We get some motion there.

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Speaker 1: Miles Boykin comes across the formation, picks up the outside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Good throw, good throw to general Chefski there.

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Speaker 2: There was some commotion in the backfield, But I think

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Speaker 2: that's completion in the real world.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to see that with the receiver that's

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Speaker 1: coming in motion then being a blocker on the out

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Speaker 1: picking up that blitzer on there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I mean, you see it with Hayward

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Speaker 2: and those guys once in a while, I was impres's

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Speaker 2: why I called boy can out. I mean he came

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Speaker 2: up and took on one of the edge guys.

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Speaker 1: Well he's a big body, he's a big guy. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: what's this last play here? And then we'll get the break? Uh,

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Speaker 1: Trubisky has them in the in the huddle. Here they

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Speaker 1: break the huddle. We get McFarland out here with we

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Speaker 1: got the two running backs in the field. Because he

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Speaker 1: got Warren to his left, McFarland's out here to the

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Speaker 1: left as well.

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Speaker 2: Just appear slot for McFarland's interest slot. Are they going

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Speaker 2: to let him run a route straight from there? Yep, yep,

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Speaker 2: little hands. What's interesting is with in that formation, McFarland's

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Speaker 2: in the slot static, he doesn't go in motion. So

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Speaker 2: in Steeler's scheme, the outside linebacker kicks out and instead

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Speaker 2: of blocking, McFarland just fakes like he's gonna take a

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Speaker 2: take a pass behind the line of scrimmage. So the

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Speaker 2: edge guy goes with him. You might just just blocking

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Speaker 2: without blocking. You took him out of the play right, right,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you're not asking him to block. TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt type player, but you're taking him out of it right, right, right.

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Speaker 1: It's a bad angle for him too, right right. And

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Speaker 1: the play then went to the other side of the field,

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Speaker 1: so now he's he's not going to have any backside

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Speaker 1: pursuit exactly right. You got him leaning the wrong way

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Speaker 1: while everything's going, you know, to the right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: double receivers in the running backs in the backfield with

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Speaker 1: for biskies. That's two running backs. You can't tell with

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, thirty eighth one of the new guys, I

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Speaker 1: assume right. Oh, nice pick there, Elijah. That was actually

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Speaker 1: Calvin Austin lined up in the backfield. Riley undercut that

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Speaker 1: pass and picked it off. Nice job by him.

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Speaker 2: I've seen Austin in the backfield ben Wata camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not the first time they running routes out of there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Another third unit coming out now, we're gonna get the break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lowlllett. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN

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Speaker 1: nine to seventy are live ongoing coverage from Steelers training

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Speaker 1: camp here at Saint Vincent College. We're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson. This is

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Speaker 1: the drive on Steeler's Nation Radio in ESPN nine seventy

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Speaker 1: are live coverage from Steelers training camp here at Saint

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Speaker 1: Vincent College. A team on the field now practicing some

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Speaker 1: kickoffs here and staying in their lanes. And I wanted

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Speaker 1: to get to that article that I saw on ESPN here, Matt,

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Speaker 1: real quick.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of notes just while we were break.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to throw out there too. I mean, Harper

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Speaker 2: the corner. Poor guy had to deal with a double

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Speaker 2: team from Washington and Green coming in motion to him

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Speaker 2: and got driven to the sidelines. If I had like,

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Speaker 2: all right, guys, that's enough. And then we saw Washington

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Speaker 2: in a nice couple of minutary They threw a tight

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Speaker 2: end screen to him, let him build up some steam there,

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Speaker 2: and he was rumbling down the sidelines. I would not

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Speaker 2: want to tackle that. And then there was a couple

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Speaker 2: clips there of two backs on the field again that

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Speaker 2: pony package, Warren and McFarland. We're seeing that pretty consistently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an article that was put together by

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Speaker 1: ESPN and their NFL experts and so they asked their experts.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt bow and Tim Hasselbeck, Matt Miller, Dan Erlowski,

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Speaker 1: Jason Reed, Jordan Reed, Mike tannebom seth Wald, and Field Yates,

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Speaker 1: if you want to call all those guys experts. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: they were asked to rate quarterbacks. I guess one through

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Speaker 1: ten in different categories arm strength, accuracy, touch mechanics, field vision,

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Speaker 1: decision making, compete level, and toughness in the pocket, rushing ability,

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Speaker 1: and second reaction. And I just looking through here, Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett only got votes in one of those things. Which

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Speaker 1: one do you think he would have gotten at least

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Speaker 1: a vote on? I did a whole podcast on this,

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Speaker 1: so I kind of remember. I actually I don't remember

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Speaker 1: because it's been two days now, but I was. I've

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Speaker 1: mentioned this podcast before. My co host is a Niner guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Steeler guy.

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Speaker 2: So we kept bringing up Party and Pickett for all

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Speaker 2: these time and time again, and my complaint was they're

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Speaker 2: just they were only picking from like fifteen guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's all the same names over and over

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Speaker 1: and over. And yes, guys, and some young.

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Speaker 2: Dudes like Fields and Richardson are out there for running

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Speaker 2: and athletic you know stuff. But all in all, I

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Speaker 2: didn't think they dug deep enough. And I understand some

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Speaker 2: of them don't have that big a body of work,

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Speaker 2: but Kenny played quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the fact that he wasn't included in

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Speaker 1: some of this. Yeah, I can't even find the one

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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: There's one that he one of their category where he's

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Speaker 2: like on the rise or you know, about to come next,

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Speaker 2: and he was one that they featured for that that.

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Speaker 1: Compete level and compete level, compete level on toughness was

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Speaker 1: the one where he got a vote or at least

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Speaker 1: at least one vote, along with Kirk Cousins, Ryan Tannel, Tua,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, can he Pickett, Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones. My

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Speaker 1: problem with that is, as I said, they included Richardson,

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Speaker 1: who's never thrown an NFL pass, and the guys with

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Speaker 1: arm strength, right, party's in there and some stuff here

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Speaker 1: and there. That was the only time Pickkett even got

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Speaker 1: a single vote, right right right. You know, for a

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Speaker 1: guy who had one interception over the last seven games

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Speaker 1: last season, he doesn't make good decisions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some decision making stuff. You know, you know

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Speaker 2: some of his the leadership stuff, I mean, party.

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Speaker 1: Got a vote, like the guys who got votes in

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Speaker 1: decision making. This is even the top ten guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Matthew Stafford, Daniel Jones, Derek Carr, Brock Purty,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Lamar Jackson, Tobe Bersett to Seawan Watson.

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Speaker 2: They're all the same names. I kind of felt like

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Speaker 2: it was a faulty.

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Speaker 1: Did they only give him a list of these guys right? Right? Right?

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Speaker 2: You know, pick from that, because again, Richardson's kind of

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Speaker 2: the exception of the young guys because he's so physically

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Speaker 2: gifted that okay, his arm strength and his running is

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Speaker 2: on the list. But again, either don't have rookies or

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Speaker 2: due you know what I mean. But how do you

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Speaker 2: leave rogers in Carr and guys have been around for

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Speaker 2: twelve years off when they have such bigger bodies of

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Speaker 2: work with leadership and intangible stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: So I was really intrigued with it, and I liked

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Speaker 2: some of the write up, and there's some cool stats

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Speaker 2: in there too. Seth Walder puts in an analytics spin

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Speaker 2: on each category, But all in all, I'm like we're

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Speaker 2: just talking about the same name, shuffled from six to

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Speaker 2: eight or eight to ten. I mean, there's not much difference.

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Speaker 1: So here's here's the other one. Okay, so rushing ability. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the guys who've got at least one vote in rushing ability,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill, Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott, Tree, Lance, Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: is a weird that he pops up too, Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Sam Darnold, and Sam Howell. Yeah, yeah, nobody

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Speaker 1: thought that. Kenny Pickett. That doesn't even I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, he's on the same level with five of those guys, sure,

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Speaker 2: at least right right right, Like Ryan Tanney.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a career achievement for Ryan Tannehill, right right right,

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Speaker 1: He's not running with the ball anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I had a problem with it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: originally we start going through and I'm like, okay, arm strength,

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Speaker 2: that all adds up, or if you look at just

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Speaker 2: one category of the ten, they all add up. But

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Speaker 2: after a while it gets really redundant because it's just

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Speaker 2: the same name. It's over and over, and it's like

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Speaker 2: and then we started messing around, going what if Brady

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Speaker 2: was still here? Where would he be on this list

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Speaker 2: and you know, things like that, or you know, because

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Speaker 2: we have lost a couple people off there, and just

867
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Speaker 2: like any you know, Sandos, Tears, Wilson, Stafford, Watson, they

868
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: all would have been so much higher a year ago,

869
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: but they didn't help their stock at all that advanced

870
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: stages of their career. So it was, you know, Lawrence

871
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 2: is on every list and then he's really a player.

872
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: But I mean it's like we're just having saying guys

873
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: over and over.

874
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like Dak Prescott at number seven in pocket presence, Yeah,

875
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: that to me is one of the biggest problems I

876
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: have with Dak Prescott is he doesn't to me, part

877
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: of pocket presence is do you know when pressure's coming

878
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: and do you control football at that point, which he

879
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: doesn't do. That was another problem I had was some

880
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: of the categories were like decision making. Well, Brady's a

881
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: great decision maker, but there was some that maybe that's

882
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: not the right one, but there was like pocket presence

883
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: and a couple of them where or playmaking I think

884
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: was one of them. I'm not looking at it, so

885
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm kind of fumbling here. But some of them are okay.

886
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 2: An athlete decides the play breaks down, I'm gonna run

887
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: where a Brady or an end of his career, Ben

888
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: or Marino would have said, I'm gonna stay in the pocket. Right,

889
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: not necessarily to be an athlete, but be a pocket quarterback.

890
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: Find my fourth option that nobody gets to. So everything

891
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: was a little redundant for me for that article, you know.

892
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: And here's the thing on like that, we just talked

893
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: about pocket presence. Party's in there. Bryce Young is in there.

894
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: Bryce Young's never even lined in, like you don't know

895
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: if his pocket presence is in here. Also didn't deal

896
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: with much pressure at Bama. No, you know what I mean,

897
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: they hit a nice soft pocket. Yeah, I mean, so

898
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of an issue that, like

899
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: justin fields in pocket.

900
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: Presence, he takes a million sacks. I mean they're not

901
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: all his fault, but pocket presence isn't there.

902
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: No, He's He's a one Reek guy. Deshaun Watson got

903
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: votes that Deshaun Watson has been one of the highest

904
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: sacked quarterbacks in the league career.

905
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: I mean, even when he was at the peak of

906
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: his pouse, he holds onto the football.

907
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: He has no pocket presence.

908
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: No no, he should not. Now again, judging Pickett versus

909
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: Rogers is tough in any category. It just seemed faulty

910
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: to me. But there were a lot that I kind

911
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: of thought, Wow, that guy shouldn't even be on that list,

912
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, we can't. And if you're a

913
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: Trey Lance in there for one thing, well should he

914
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: be there for every athletic category even though he hardly plays?

915
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: And then you start opening that door like we're gonna

916
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: start talking about second and even third string guys apparently,

917
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: so that just happened to have.

918
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: A rocket launcher for a right arm or because we've

919
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: seen it, we see all three forty nine ers quarterbacks.

920
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: Their names have gotten mentioned right, like right right right.

921
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: You know, it just makes no sense, I think to me,

922
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett got stubbed on this list. Oh I think

923
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: so too.

924
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that that there were many categories. Well,

925
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: if I'm nice to those guys, which I respect from

926
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: all the guys on the panel, I would expect Kenny

927
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: to be on seven of the top ten categories next year.

928
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not going to be in arm strength, right,

929
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's fine, but it's not. Josh Allen it's

930
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: not Herbert. Yeah, I mean if you start looking at

931
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: those categories.

932
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: Or at least getting votes or being borderline top ten

933
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: on six or seven of them, you know.

934
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Arm strength, no accuracy, right, yeah, I'll touch Okay, yep,

935
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: mechanics that's fine. You know. I got to kick out

936
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: of that one too, Like was was Aaron Rodgers second

937
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: in mechanics or third in mechanics or something like that? Yes,

938
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: well you never would teach your kid to throw like

939
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: he does, like his mechanics, right, I mean in the

940
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: air with no feet on the ground, you know, like, yeah,

941
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: it works for Aaron, but it doesn't work for the

942
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: ten year old kid. You don't teach him to do that.

943
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Here's your mechanic teach tape, you know. So, yes, he's

944
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but he's highly on it. It's like you

945
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't put Philip Rivers mechanics in there. No, you know

946
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, But it works for him. So the

947
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: top there was actually ties in that one. So it

948
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: was Burrow Rogers, Mahomes, Herbert Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence, Josh

949
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: Allen Kirk, cousins to A Tago Va LOOA Matthew Stafford

950
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's because he's incredibly gifted, but that's what means

951
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: he's necessarily mechanically sound.

952
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: We got one on ones here. We got Cam Hayward

953
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: going on about to do one on ones.

954
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the others who received votes, Jalen Hurts, Gino Smith,

955
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Deshaun Watson, Ryan Tanney, Hillton, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson,

956
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Like they just named every starting They was.

957
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Named every starting quarterback over and over.

958
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so we get some one on ones here

959
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: going on in front of us, which is nice.

960
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: Let's yeah, yeah, yeah, we just had high Smith versus More.

961
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: I would say it's basically a draw. Here comes Cam,

962
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: though against Isaac it was not. They're gonna run it back. Yeah,

963
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: they're gonna do that one again. I don't know if

964
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: I've seen Cam in a one on one drill, but

965
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: they're often at the other field.

966
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: He's done some and it's usually what they're doing here.

967
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: A nice shot by Dan Moore. People are discounting Damn Moore. No, right,

968
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: I think he's been very much solid. All right, So

969
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: now we got the two the two Wiley veterans, ring

970
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: against each other here. Well, the big spinne that very

971
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: much tries to go to the.

972
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: Wonder if they're giggling about that one. I don't run

973
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: that back.

974
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's not if he tries to lock him

975
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: out on this one.

976
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, Isaac absorbs that blows. Yeah, sits his butt

977
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: down and anchors.

978
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: That was well done. Okay, we got Montravius Adams here

979
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,479
Speaker 1: against Mason Cole.

980
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: Yep, well done by Cole. Yeah, the real square. Good job,

981
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: and of course the skill guys are doing. They're one

982
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: on ones on the other side. But I don't run

983
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: that back, as you said, But he stunned him pretty good.

984
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 2: But Cole, that was quickness off the ball from Adams,

985
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: hit on the rise. You know Cole's head to snap back,

986
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: but he recovered pretty well.

987
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now we got our mom Watts going inst James Daniels.

988
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a win for Daniels too, kept him, kept

989
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: him way off his body and you know he was

990
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: able to arch his back.

991
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: Keep them once you get that arm straight, stayed straight

992
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: on him. Nice power position. What's the ducks under on

993
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: that one? But goes to deep to the other side.

994
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, and say you're probably run into traffic.

995
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: You're not going to get that in a game. You're

996
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: asking a guard to. Now we get Chucks in the

997
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: and what and what this is where Chukes a corps

998
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: Ford is going, man, yeah, just do this.

999
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: Like gonna throw Watts out there again against opt.

1000
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: That time Daniels try to jump out and yeah, jumps

1001
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: at him. Yeah, and it didn't didn't work.

1002
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a man dea man coverage corner

1003
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: that goes all in for the big Chuck and missus.

1004
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of what happened there. There we

1005
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: go Chukes versus what good job by checks good job

1006
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: tried to go to and he stayed and moved his

1007
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: feet and get stayed there with him. This is where

1008
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: you talk about iron sharpening iron here and this time

1009
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: he ducks. He does his little duck under move and gets.

1010
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: Around him, gets around him, but wouldn't have been a

1011
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: surefire sack.

1012
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: Chucks was upset about that one though. He's probably seen

1013
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's seen that moved a thousand times now,

1014
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: and he still got him with he does like a

1015
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: little dead leg and then he ducks underneath.

1016
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: Gets that head right through him too.

1017
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: It's just so quick.

1018
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: This time he goes to spind and.

1019
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: Good job. I'd say he won two out of three. Yeah.

1020
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: That little dead leg move though, is devastating.

1021
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: Man.

1022
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: He times it so well too. I wonder if Herbig

1023
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: will do it now. Maybe maybe he's in against Jones. Yea.

1024
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: Let's see that Jones held his more than held his

1025
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: own against him the other day. That he's improving. Nice work, Broderick. Yep,

1026
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: nice bend, sitting that butt down, good hands. This is

1027
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: the one spot where Herbig's shorter arms would cause Yeah,

1028
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: right against a longer armed offensive tackle like that again

1029
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: locked him out.

1030
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well done, nice Jeark Jones. That's uneasy assignment.

1031
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: You do that one again? Her Big on's another one.

1032
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: I bet he does. He's over too, Mike Tomlins sitting

1033
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: right there on top of him. Now, is he gonna

1034
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: try something different here? He went outside the first two times,

1035
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: as he tried to go inside this time, and yes

1036
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: he does get the spear.

1037
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: For the spin, and the big athletic left tackle recovers

1038
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: very right there with him.

1039
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: It's good job, nice work, Roderick. So who we got?

1040
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: He get ninety six braiden for Hoko going against sixty two.

1041
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 2: Ryan McCollum, and he's just pure power. Yeah, just straight

1042
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: down there as you would think. Yeah, that's that's basically

1043
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: his move. I mean he's got more, but yes, that's

1044
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: where he makes his living.

1045
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: No, that's so he's a big, powerful guy. And see

1046
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: if he just whooping. Looks like they did jump at

1047
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: the if he jumped or the because the quarterbacks started

1048
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: going back to Yeah, oh heavy hands there, good job,

1049
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: got off the ball slow, but hit him heavy with

1050
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: the floodshammer hands and McCollum recovery. Yeah, he was able

1051
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: to withstand it. That's slapped to this, straight to the shoulder, right, heavy, heavy,

1052
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that again. Do that one again. All right, Braiden,

1053
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: can't see how this one goes. We gotta get the

1054
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: break here.

1055
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: Soon took another. Yeah, another bull rush up, pure bull rush.

1056
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: Anyways, we're going to take a break. Here is Matt

1057
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: Williams and I and Dale all that you're listening to

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1060
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1061
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