Speaker 1: Go ahead, hear that babies and peanut butter. Welcome to
Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and DJ Robes. This is a
Speaker 1: big deal confirmation we know that it works and that
Speaker 1: we should all be giving babies a little introduction of peanuts.
Speaker 2: Right because peanut allergies have gotten, and at least had
Speaker 2: gotten while my kids were school aged out of control
Speaker 2: to the point where nobody could bring a PB and Jada.
Speaker 3: School anymore, and that was like my go to.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's a healthy choice, but peanut butter
Speaker 2: and banana sandwich. Oh my gosh, that's what I took
Speaker 2: every day, and I couldn't pack that for my kids
Speaker 2: because there were too many peanut allergies.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, okay, Well, we know this affects millions of kids.
Speaker 1: The estimates of kind of all over the place, but
Speaker 1: anywhere from two to four plus percent of kids have
Speaker 1: specifically a peanut allergy. About eight percent of kids have
Speaker 1: some kind of food allergy, but peanuts that is the
Speaker 1: most prevalent among our children. Well, there's a not just
Speaker 1: a new study, guidance changed, and now we have confirmation
Speaker 1: Robes that the guidance was right and this is working.
Speaker 1: Fewer kids have allergies because of this the guidance, yes.
Speaker 3: And it's significant.
Speaker 2: It's not just a few they're saying that they have
Speaker 2: saved significant I think they gave a very specific number
Speaker 2: of folks who would have had peanut allergies who now longer,
Speaker 2: do not or never developed.
Speaker 1: You've had two kids, the youngest is nineteighteen, so go
Speaker 1: back two decades. What was the guidance doctors were giving
Speaker 1: around that time for pe nuts and introducing things like that.
Speaker 2: I believe I was told to introduce it all to them.
Speaker 2: You know, you've got this schedule basically, so you can
Speaker 2: see if there's an allergy.
Speaker 3: So first you give them.
Speaker 2: I forgot what it was like baby carrots or something,
Speaker 2: and then each you know, each week you added a
Speaker 2: new food to it. And look, my dad's a food scientist.
Speaker 2: My dad's a microbiologist, and he has always been in
Speaker 2: the thought of giving or exposing kids in small amounts
Speaker 2: to things early on so they develop and if you
Speaker 2: do see something, obviously initially you can see it, but
Speaker 2: so they develop natural immunity to it so their body
Speaker 2: doesn't reject it later. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: It's the same concept of a vaccination. If you give
Speaker 2: a live or a dead virus a little bit introduce
Speaker 2: something to your body, your body will yes develop an
Speaker 2: immunity or have a correct response to it.
Speaker 1: But that did not used to be the guidance. Doctors
Speaker 1: used to suggest that you don't introduce things like peanuts,
Speaker 1: things with potential to have issues with allergens to kids
Speaker 1: until they were at least three, That you shouldn't risk it,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't mess with it. That was the guidance before
Speaker 1: guidance changed because of a twenty fifteen study and then
Speaker 1: another twenty seventeen study, and then that's when the guidance
Speaker 1: changed in twenty seventeen, so they started robes taking a
Speaker 1: look at kids. So this latest information we got was
Speaker 1: just them taking a look at kids since twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: when the official guidance changed, and when they said, yes,
Speaker 1: start introducing peanuts a little peanut butter to your kids
Speaker 1: early on. When that guidance changed, there was a sharp
Speaker 1: decline and the number of kids with peanut allergies, and
Speaker 1: they are saying, yes, we can directly link the two.
Speaker 1: They followed one hundred and twenty five thousand kids since
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen doctors said they again started introducing kids to
Speaker 1: peanuts and the diets as early as four months old. Now,
Speaker 1: as a parent, still hearing that, they just freak you
Speaker 1: out to be giving your kids something they might be
Speaker 1: allergic to and you think they might have an awful
Speaker 1: reaction to.
Speaker 2: Well, I think when you've got this perfect little newborn, yes,
Speaker 2: you're nervous about anything. Your first one, you were so
Speaker 2: careful and you you know, I'm sure I monitored you know,
Speaker 2: Eva every second after I gave her a new food,
Speaker 2: just to make sure nothing had happened. But yes, that's
Speaker 2: anxiety inducing to give your chrial something that you know
Speaker 2: can actually be a fatal or a lethal substance to
Speaker 2: some kids if they have allergies to it.
Speaker 1: Noah, So Carrie, I think that would still no matter
Speaker 1: what the guidance is. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are still hesitant because of what you just describe and
Speaker 1: when you said it like that, you have this perfect
Speaker 1: new n right.
Speaker 2: You don't want to do anything to you know, upset
Speaker 2: the baby or affect the baby in any wrong way.
Speaker 3: You want to make sure you do everything you can. Yes,
Speaker 3: but they say to give kids as early as four
Speaker 3: months old.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of kids don't even go into
Speaker 2: solid foods until six months old. So but they're saying, yes,
Speaker 2: start giving them little tiny drops or little dollops of it.
Speaker 1: Basically, And so that's what they started recommending in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: And folks, here is the big number. Since twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: they have seen a forty three percent drop in allergies
Speaker 1: in kids robes. That is that's insane significant.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's wow that and that is a reason to celebrate,
Speaker 2: and that is very cool that we could figure something
Speaker 2: out like that because so not just so that's a
Speaker 2: forty three percent drop in peanut allergies and kids since
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, but thirty six percent overall drop in food
Speaker 2: allergies in general. So it helped produce whatever your body
Speaker 2: needs to produce to protect itself against anything that it
Speaker 2: would consider a pathogen or an antigen. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the verb or the term is for that, but
Speaker 2: certainly that makes a lot of sense. So here are
Speaker 2: the other big astonishing numbers. That means that sixty thousand
Speaker 2: kids did not develop allergies that might have and forty
Speaker 2: thousand kids did not develop peanut allergies that they might
Speaker 2: have that is huge and roabes.
Speaker 1: They say the numbers could and should be better because
Speaker 1: we've been slow to implement it, and they say there's
Speaker 1: so many what do they call allogists out there who
Speaker 1: still don't give this recommendation to parents, like.
Speaker 3: Because they'd be out of business.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know I didn't die. Damn. You go right
Speaker 1: to the cynical part.
Speaker 3: It's always about money, You go in right in.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. But yes, they say
Speaker 1: they've been slow to implement and so people still aren't
Speaker 1: doing it, and they're screaming and yelling about this study,
Speaker 1: Like what else do you want.
Speaker 3: Folks exactly?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is honestly a study like this is
Speaker 2: so helpful because if yes, you're a new parent now
Speaker 2: and you've got this little baby, hearing that reading that
Speaker 2: makes you feel so much more just okay with giving
Speaker 2: that little four month old a taste of peanut butter.
Speaker 1: And it's just I actually kind of remember what happened
Speaker 1: with sabine, but I think the recommendation was to yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a little dab of peanut butter. You're not
Speaker 1: And again they want to remind the recommendations. Again, Robot
Speaker 1: and I are not doctors at all. We're telling you
Speaker 1: what doctors are saying, and doctors say, you're not giving
Speaker 1: them the peanuts for or the peanut butter for nutrients.
Speaker 1: It's just a little tester, So just a little fingernail
Speaker 1: size bit is all it takes, So don't give them
Speaker 1: a whole meal.
Speaker 2: But yes, but kids do love peanut butter, so it's
Speaker 2: a fun one to do. It's I loved that moment
Speaker 2: of giving a baby a new taste, like where they're
Speaker 2: literally tasting something for the very first time. And then
Speaker 2: of course someone's always mean and gives a new baby
Speaker 2: a little lemon slice. And then really, oh my family
Speaker 2: did that statistic. Oh it was my grandfather's favorite thing
Speaker 2: to do. Get a new baby, put them at the
Speaker 2: end of the table. Everyone give them a lemon. The
Speaker 2: baby's all excited, puts the lemon up to their mouth
Speaker 2: and makes like the craziest face because it's the most
Speaker 2: sour taste. We all die laughing, wow, and then the
Speaker 2: baby usually starts crying because everyone's laughing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's unusual.
Speaker 3: This is what happens in my house at Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Jeez. So the allergies, at least in some homes, are
Speaker 1: the least of the kids' worries. But for other kids,
Speaker 1: they do have to worry about these allergies. Now, they
Speaker 1: started to figure this out, if you go back a
Speaker 1: little bit twenty fifteen, this was interesting to me. When
Speaker 1: they started to figure this out robes. They were noticing
Speaker 1: that Jewish kids, one group of Jewish kids was ten
Speaker 1: times more likely to have a peanut allergy than this
Speaker 1: other group of Jewish kids. What was the difference. One
Speaker 1: set lived in Israel, the other set lived outside of Israel.
Speaker 1: And they have these little peanut snacks that are popular
Speaker 1: among kids. So I call these bamba bamba snacks that
Speaker 1: they start giving kids early on, and they say that's
Speaker 1: an introduction of peanuts. And they started piecing this thing together.
Speaker 1: But the big study was the leap they called it
Speaker 1: in the Learning Early about Peanut allergy leap is what
Speaker 1: they call. And this was the first one to show that, yes,
Speaker 1: if you start to introduce early on in kids, that
Speaker 1: you can have good results and avoid allergies, in particular
Speaker 1: peanut allergy.
Speaker 2: That is so cool, and you actually included when you
Speaker 2: put this all together, what a peanut allergy is anyway,
Speaker 2: And I think this is actually really interesting because for
Speaker 2: people who don't understand why it can be fatal, it's
Speaker 2: your body reacting to it. So a peanut allergy is
Speaker 2: caused when the body's own immune system mistakenly identifies proteins
Speaker 2: in peanuts as harmful and then releases chemicals that trigger
Speaker 2: allergic symptoms like hives, respiratory symptoms, and sometimes life threatening
Speaker 2: and aphylaxis.
Speaker 3: And look I developed.
Speaker 2: I've had a couple different allergies that have developed at
Speaker 2: different times in my life, but I had both times
Speaker 2: when I was pregnant, I developed allergies, and my dad
Speaker 2: told me that's very common because your immune system is
Speaker 2: getting torqued and tweaked because you're pregnant. And so I
Speaker 2: suddenly developed an allergy to avocados and it lasted ten years,
Speaker 2: but they can come and go.
Speaker 3: Allergies are fascinated.
Speaker 1: So I have a shelfish now allergy that I have
Speaker 1: a cut.
Speaker 3: Yes, while I was pregnant.
Speaker 2: So your body, like your hormonal system changes and even
Speaker 2: when you get older, you can get adult on set
Speaker 2: allergies as well. So it's my mom used to get
Speaker 2: upset because I had a lot of different allergies growing up,
Speaker 2: and certainly have hay fever and you do too comes spring.
Speaker 3: It's gotten better as I've gotten older.
Speaker 2: But my mom was told, and I think a lot
Speaker 2: of women are told, that if you breastfeed, you then
Speaker 2: reduce allergic risks to your children.
Speaker 3: But I've never seen.
Speaker 2: But she said that was like one of the one
Speaker 2: main reasons why she breastfeed mews because she thought she
Speaker 2: was protecting me from allergens.
Speaker 3: So it's like something mons or old. I Nope, it
Speaker 3: did not, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: But obviously there are a lot of other great things
Speaker 2: that come with breast milk, so I won't go into that,
Speaker 2: but it is interesting and you think about it. Moms
Speaker 2: are always trying to figure out how they can yes
Speaker 2: prevent things from happening to their children. So it's counterintuitive
Speaker 2: maybe to give your child something that you would be
Speaker 2: concerned could cause harm, like peanuts or peanut butter.
Speaker 1: And yes, again, folks, we are passing along what they're saying.
Speaker 1: They're not suggesting under any circumstance that you just start
Speaker 1: serving the baby no peanut butter. It's just a little introduction. Again,
Speaker 1: they described it as just a fingernail size pit.
Speaker 3: He wrote a little hit a couple times a week.
Speaker 3: That perfect TJ way to put it.
Speaker 1: Okay, that didn't sound like a doctor gave their recommendation,
Speaker 1: so I decided maybe I shouldn't include that. But folks,
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Look, they didn't just help a
Speaker 1: bunch of kids out. They helped a bunch of adults out.
Speaker 1: Kids don't often robes grow out of their allergies. They
Speaker 1: might be stuck with it. So exactly how many folks
Speaker 1: out there end up growing out of their peanut allergies
Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Stay with us, all right, We
Speaker 1: are back, folks here Amy and TJ talking about these
Speaker 1: peanut allergies and an avocado allergy. Apparently I just learned
Speaker 1: about maybe I have that.
Speaker 2: Mine did go Yeah, well, no, I actually had severe
Speaker 2: like I had to go to the emergency room.
Speaker 1: Oh avocado. And what age was it?
Speaker 3: That's sort of when I was pregnant with Annaly? So
Speaker 3: I was thirty two.
Speaker 2: But here's the interesting thing, And I learned this when
Speaker 2: I also then developed a prawn allergy.
Speaker 3: It took me a while to figure it out.
Speaker 2: That was also in my thirties and my DA's it's
Speaker 2: actually really common to have this happen, especially as a
Speaker 2: woman going through all the different changes you go through
Speaker 2: when you're pregnant. But I found that the more you
Speaker 2: get introduced to it, and I know anyone who has
Speaker 2: an allergy out there and understands this. So mine had
Speaker 2: gone from being a stomach irritation to a hives situation.
Speaker 2: So then I remember everywhere I was traveling internationally, if
Speaker 2: I had anything with any sort of shellfish, I didn't
Speaker 2: know what it was. I started getting hives everywhere, and
Speaker 2: then it dated a couple of years later to all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, my tongue got felt fat and my
Speaker 2: throat was swelling and it was felt anaphylactic.
Speaker 3: And that's when I.
Speaker 2: Really got scared. So yeah, I so I still to
Speaker 2: this day. You know, I do not eat shrimp or prawn.
Speaker 1: How can we grow you out of that one?
Speaker 2: Well, I would love to be because I used to
Speaker 2: be able to eat shrimp.
Speaker 3: So allergies are fascinating to me.
Speaker 2: So it's cool to think there's something you can do
Speaker 2: and the more and like, I was not introduced to
Speaker 2: seafood as a kid, ever, I grew up in the Midwest.
Speaker 2: We did not have seafood, so you have to think
Speaker 2: that that could have contributed to me after a couple
Speaker 2: of exposures to shrimp later on in life, suddenly now
Speaker 2: I have a shellfish allergy.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's really how I'd love to get you out
Speaker 1: of that one.
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's a problem.
Speaker 2: You love shrimp. Get oh, I used to love it.
Speaker 2: You know where I used to love it at Benny Hannah,
Speaker 2: I love this shrimp there.
Speaker 1: Yes, we love this some Benihanna. But no, but we
Speaker 1: talk about forty thousand kids here saved from peanut allergies,
Speaker 1: sixty thousand kids overall, say from some kind of food allergy.
Speaker 1: But roads they're saving sixty thousand adults from having to
Speaker 1: deal with this the rest of their lives because folks,
Speaker 1: generally speaking, adults are not growing out of their childhood allergies.
Speaker 1: You're kind of they're with you for life. And the
Speaker 1: estimates are only twenty thirty percent actually end up growing
Speaker 1: out of a lot of these allergies. So this is
Speaker 1: wonderful new You are potentially parents out there who follow
Speaker 1: this advice. You are saving this child possibly a lifetime
Speaker 1: of something they have to do with.
Speaker 2: And yes, because it's so scary for the parent. I
Speaker 2: know you hear about the worst case scenarios every now
Speaker 2: and then, but I can't imagine the fear of knowing
Speaker 2: that my child had a life threatening allergy, and everywhere
Speaker 2: they went out in the world, even as they got older,
Speaker 2: you still think you're a stupid kid. You're in college,
Speaker 2: you're dumb, you don't think about things the way you should.
Speaker 2: And just to know that there's something out there that
Speaker 2: seemingly seems innocuous and is.
Speaker 3: Fine for a lot of folks could kill your child.
Speaker 2: That is a huge, huge relief for a lot of
Speaker 2: folks to know that they just do this simple thing
Speaker 2: early on, you can prevent not just a lifetime of fear.
Speaker 3: For your chop, but for you. You live in fear
Speaker 3: always a.
Speaker 1: Good point, and I haven't had to deal with anything
Speaker 1: like this. I've known people that not that close to
Speaker 1: folks who have to deal with this, but it's I
Speaker 1: can't imagine a life where you're reading every label, where
Speaker 1: you're having to go through every ingredient, where you haven't
Speaker 1: asked all the questions of the waiter and the chef,
Speaker 1: and you're having to do all these things because of
Speaker 1: something that could for a lot of folks is beyond
Speaker 1: sneezing and coughing and wheezing.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's not just annoying, it's life threatening. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's scary. And anyone who.
Speaker 2: Has had an anaphylactic response, which I have had twice
Speaker 2: in my life when I was in London and when
Speaker 2: I was in Scotland because they put prawn stock and
Speaker 2: things that I didn't realize and it took me a second.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, why is my throat getting closed, is
Speaker 2: closing up? Why is my tongue feeling fat and thick?
Speaker 2: And it all of them. You start to panic. You
Speaker 2: have to have steroids, you have to travel with an EpiPen.
Speaker 2: It's scary. But they also noticed in this different study, correct,
Speaker 2: because they've done a couple of studies that kids with
Speaker 2: ezema were two to six times higher at risk for
Speaker 2: food allergies.
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's another thing they started noticing and piecing
Speaker 1: together because the food allergens, so the allergens are getting
Speaker 1: in through the skin, So they were trying to find
Speaker 1: a way to combat that and started to introduce it
Speaker 1: to the kids and they saw the reduction. So they
Speaker 1: just made the connection. That exzema study or looking at
Speaker 1: that was another thing that gave them more evidence that
Speaker 1: they need to be looking into feeding. Putting it in
Speaker 1: your gut was what that study.
Speaker 2: Told them, because it's easier for your body to tolerate
Speaker 2: allergens through your stomach than through your skin.
Speaker 1: That is exactly what I said.
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. Look, and I have
Speaker 2: been to allergists several times in my life. I used
Speaker 2: to get shots in my arms to try and prevent
Speaker 2: seasonal allergies.
Speaker 3: I have been.
Speaker 2: They have told me I'm allergic to everything that grows
Speaker 2: and listed things from cherries to watermelon whatever. I still
Speaker 2: eat what I want for the most part, but it's
Speaker 2: nice to know that introducing in small doses through the
Speaker 2: advice of your doctor, you know, certain foods to your
Speaker 2: children can actually have a lifetime of benefits.
Speaker 1: Officially, what are you allergic to? Food? Allergy?
Speaker 2: The only thing I know is prawns right now, because
Speaker 2: and avocados I just have to I can still, I
Speaker 2: can have.
Speaker 3: Them now, but I have to be careful about how
Speaker 3: much I have.
Speaker 2: It's so weird to have that developed because if I
Speaker 2: have like a full I get really like my stomach.
Speaker 3: I actually want to die. It's the worst feeling in
Speaker 3: the world. Are you allergic to anything?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Any things? You only eat like eight things? Okay, it's
Speaker 3: working for you.
Speaker 1: Well, folks, there you go. This is a very very
Speaker 1: big deal and a very big deal in not just
Speaker 1: medical news, but could change really lives moving forward thousands
Speaker 1: and thousands and save lives. Even so, we thought we
Speaker 1: would hop on and share that so as always we
Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to us. So for now I'm TJ.
Speaker 1: Holmes alongside my partner, Hey me and bla blah. Talk
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