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Speaker 1: Junior, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to a brand new episode

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Speaker 1: But just before anything else, I want you to know

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Speaker 1: This is the introduction that our producer wrote. Here we

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Speaker 1: go listen to this. This is god Mode Today. We

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Speaker 1: have a charismatic and skilled professional wrestler who's made a

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Speaker 1: significant impact in the world of WWE. With an impressive

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Speaker 1: blend of technical prowess, in ring ability, and a captivating presence,

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Speaker 1: he has established himself as a noteworthy figure in WWE.

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Speaker 1: Hailing from Mexico, he embodies the rich tradition of Lucha

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Speaker 1: libre while bringing his unique style island persona to the

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Speaker 1: global stage of sports entertainment. He made his mark in

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Speaker 1: WWE as the leader of the faction known as Legado

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Speaker 1: del Fantasma, displaying not only his wrestling skills but also

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Speaker 1: his leadership qualities beyond his in ring accomplishments. He exudes

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Speaker 1: confidence in charisma, making him a compelling figure both inside

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Speaker 1: and outside the Squared Circle. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Santos Escobar, sir. That's that's like documentarian style

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Speaker 1: right there. How are you, sir, Good to see you.

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Speaker 3: I'm super happy, Ermano, Freddy Carnal, thank you, Jeff, thank

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Speaker 3: you for having me.

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Speaker 4: On the show.

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Speaker 3: Like I said before, I appreciate the opportunities. This is

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Speaker 3: a unique opportunity for me to speak to my people,

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Speaker 3: and I just cherished this moment as they afford this

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Speaker 3: chance for mihente out there to see what's underneath the

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a big opportunity for us too, So

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Speaker 1: the feeling is one hundred percent mutual. I want to

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Speaker 1: get right into this and I'd like to start off

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Speaker 1: on a deeper note and maybe we'll lighten up as

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Speaker 1: we go. You know, my father was in show business

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Speaker 1: but his legend and the shoes that he left for

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Speaker 1: me to fill were massive in size, and I spent

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Speaker 1: my life trying to make sure that I walked the

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Speaker 1: right path. Your father walked this path before you as

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Speaker 1: El Fantasma, and I'm just wondering what legacy means to you.

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Speaker 1: What kind of pressure that is? Do you thrive on

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Speaker 1: that pressure? Do you create it yourself? Was it placed

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Speaker 1: upon you all those things? If you could just kind

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Speaker 1: of talk me through what it's like to follow in

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Speaker 3: Well, it was all of the evap Actually, legato means legacy,

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Speaker 3: and that's why Lego Fantasma came about in WW. I

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Speaker 3: thought it was very important for me to portray what

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Speaker 3: very straightforward Legado del fantasma, which is a legacy of

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Speaker 3: my dad. And my dad still does his think because

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Speaker 3: you know, once you become a luchador, a wrestler, a

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Speaker 3: sports and retainer, however you want to call it, you

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Speaker 3: will never stop being it. You'll keep doing it till

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Speaker 3: the wheels come up. And he just had a show

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta like two months ago, and he's doing autograph signings,

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Speaker 3: appearances and whatnot. And I'm so happy he still does

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Speaker 3: that because it's been not just my hero, my instructor,

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Speaker 3: my friend, my executioner sometimes early on in my career.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this for twenty three years now. I'm

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Speaker 3: going on my twenty fourth year next year. He's always

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Speaker 3: been so hard on me, like it's critique since I

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Speaker 3: was a kid, and one of the things that this

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Speaker 3: in lucha lib you inherit your family's name, your family's

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Speaker 4: That made me just go ballistic because.

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Speaker 3: I realized that this life of always trying to prove

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Speaker 3: I said like, Okay, that's not going to happen, but

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna prove to you. Not only am I tough

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Speaker 3: I started doing it on my own. My first three

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Speaker 3: I would be, you know, just the first match, which

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Speaker 3: in the US, by the way, it's different. Three of

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Speaker 3: the most important positions you can have is opening the show,

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Speaker 3: crossover or main event. Yeah, those are three important positions

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Speaker 3: that do you get in the US. Not in Mexico,

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Speaker 3: my friends, not in Mexico. In Mexico, it's by order

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Speaker 4: That's how it works.

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Speaker 1: It's like old school boxing. You start with the small guys,

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Speaker 1: work your way up to the champions. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So there was instances way back when when we would

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Speaker 3: around and I came around too. Because wrestling, sports entertainment,

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Speaker 3: lucha libre is so hard that eventually you realize I

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Speaker 3: know where he's coming from. I know he doesn't want

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Speaker 3: me to embarrass whatever he did for forty years and

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Speaker 1: That's that's what I was gonna follow up with. And Jeff,

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Speaker 1: then I'll let you jump in. Do you think he

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Speaker 1: or do you think that's just the way he was?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, I think he was legit. He he didn't thought

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Speaker 3: I was. I was ready for this, wow, man, but

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Speaker 4: So everyone would try to test me. Everyone would try to,

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Speaker 3: Like realize that Okay, they want to find out are

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Speaker 4: Let's see what you got?

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Speaker 3: Or he had beef with people from thirty years ago,

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Speaker 3: and I would be the one to solve the situation,

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Speaker 4: Like, So it was hard. It was really hard to

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Speaker 3: Then he became the Commissioner in Mexico, which is an

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Speaker 3: But by then I was tough, tough enough to go

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Speaker 3: eventually it was always my dream to come to WWE.

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, And there's a vivid, a very

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Speaker 3: and it was Seawn Michael's and Triple H on TV

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Speaker 3: with them, that's just destiny. I don't know how that happened,

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Speaker 4: But that's just how a lot of plans. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's never the way you want it.

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Speaker 3: It's never the way you plan it, but it's always

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Speaker 3: if you have a vision and your vision is clear,

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Speaker 3: you'll get there.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jeff, I know you want to jump in there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a big fan Sanchos.

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Speaker 6: One thing That's one thing on this show I don't

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Speaker 6: shut up about as the wrestling needs. We need more

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Speaker 6: giants and we need more louchas. That's all I That's

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Speaker 6: all I talk about. So I'm a huge happy to

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Speaker 6: have you on the thing. Why don't you steal your

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Speaker 6: dad's name. You should be Fantasma.

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Speaker 1: Just steal it.

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Speaker 5: Say I'm taking it, dude, and I'm taking the mask

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Speaker 5: and this is.

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Speaker 4: Now now now what now? What daddy?

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Speaker 1: The ultimate heel move, that's what.

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Speaker 5: No, No, Santa is good.

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Speaker 4: I was a heel for a while in that household fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Oh, here's a here's a question that like marks like

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Speaker 6: me wonder you know when when we get to actually

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Speaker 6: get to be in your house or apartment or wherever

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Speaker 6: you are right now. I always one of the things

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Speaker 6: like you've won a ton of things, thank you.

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Speaker 5: But there's the thing is you, guys, you win these

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Speaker 6: You you've won the you know, the n XT cruiser weight,

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Speaker 6: You've you've got things that you that you've a comp

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Speaker 6: and now, how do one do wrestlers keep a belt

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Speaker 6: from every time they win or or where do they

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Speaker 6: keep all this stuff? When they move around, you take

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Speaker 4: Give the belt.

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Speaker 5: But how does it work. Where do you keep all

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you get to keep one, and I have

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Speaker 3: my trophy room back there, so I have all all

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Speaker 6: That must mean helping movers or helping wrestlers move, must

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: It is because because if you're a veteran or on

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Speaker 3: And so when you move, it's down to the floor

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Speaker 3: of the gym, all the you know, the.

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Speaker 4: Stuff you got there, your frame pictures. It's hard.

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Speaker 5: That must be. Imagine helping the rock move.

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Speaker 6: He's got all those chains and treadmills and belts, this chains.

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Speaker 5: Pancake batter.

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Speaker 1: Hey is the trophy room and the gym the same room?

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Speaker 1: Are you looking at championships while you work out?

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Speaker 4: No, it's a different.

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Speaker 5: Your uncle was a wrestler too, right, Santos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was my cousin who got the name,

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Speaker 4: not me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go lift as soon as we finish me too,

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Speaker 1: let's let's talk storyline. So look, I'll be honest, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm biased. You've you've been in my home, we've broken

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Speaker 1: bread together, You've met my wife, my children, So I'm

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Speaker 1: on your side, even if you are breaking heroes knees. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do you see as your future in the upcoming year?

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Speaker 1: Now that this year's coming to a close in the

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Speaker 1: new year, where do you see you going? What do

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I think it's important to master

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Speaker 4: I try to. I gotta be doing this for a

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Speaker 6: So you hate dragonly, I get it all right, that's fair,

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Speaker 5: Who he's the best?

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Speaker 4: That's important to do because you know this. It is Freddy.

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Speaker 3: You know this jet If you see Toulucha guys, and

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Speaker 4: But the truth about this is if you stay Luca,

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Speaker 1: If you do wrestle Randy Orton, you got to give

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Speaker 3: It won't be easy, It won't be easy.

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Speaker 4: He's huge right now. I might end up getting one

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Speaker 1: Think you bet now? I noticed the Elm Street sign

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Speaker 3: The two of my my my two most important movies

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Speaker 4: The Spanish is so good. It's so good. But you

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Speaker 1: It's when kids told know what you did last summer.

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Speaker 1: We worked really aren't on that, but right it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the omen that's a great one too. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's why wrestlers like horror so much, because

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Speaker 1: Dive on tomorrow show, which is Thursday, unsanctioned Thursday. So

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Speaker 1: I want to thank all of you for listening. Santos

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Speaker 1: Anko in anywhere, thank you for listening. See you tomorrow.

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