1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: I heard God whisper to me. I didn't forget m M. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: I didn't forget the dreams that you had as a 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: little girl. It's still a moment for me because you 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: know how you desire things and when it doesn't come, 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: you just what you want to kind of make it okay. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: You just kind of let that dream die because what 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: was happening in my career was so great, you know, Mary, 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: he was winning Grammy's and Platinum and TV and but 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: there was another dream I had and so God allowed 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: me to, even after we decided to take a minute 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: on Mary Mary, to still become myself. And that is 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Erica Campbell speaking on Mary Mary and what the fans 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: still want to hear. But on this edition of Naked, 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: she talks about her latest single and life as just 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Eric Campbell. It's the greatest and then the same make 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: and make Chepian and they carry champions to be champion, 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: a champion, they carry Champion, Champion, They care with Champion, 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: they care and Naked Everybody, Welcome to today's edition of Naked, 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: So on the podcast today we have Erica Campbell and 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: you all may know Erica Campbell as the other half 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: or one half of the very explosive group Mary Mary. 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: It's a gospel group that I know everybody, at least 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: in my world, are familiar with what these ladies seeing. 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: My favorite to shackles on my feet, But I can't sing, 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: so I won't do that. But what I realized prior 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: to interviewing her was that she knew so many people 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: that I knew in this very small world, and they 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: always spoke so highly of her and talked about how 29 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: if you ever met her once, you're going to really 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: enjoy her personality, You're going to enjoy her style. So 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: when we have the opportunity to interview someone such as that, 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I jump at it. Her solo career began, but prior 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: to that, as we all know, her and her younger 34 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: sister Tina, were arguably one of the hottest gospel groups 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: that were around. Beginning in UH they had a platinum 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: album that was released, and they were considered up there 37 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: with Franklin and all these other groups. These mainstream and 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: I say mainstream not in negative way, but I say 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: mainstream in a way where gospel was being played on 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: local radio stations. And so today she sits down with 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: us on Naked and she shares so many invaluable lessons. 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: I often ask the question when I meet people who 43 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: are able to live in both worlds, and by live, 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, UH, make music that can appeal to others 45 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: outside of those who may or may not believe in 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, who may or may not be Christians. But 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: her music is considered mainstream and she shares stories um 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: about the life that she has lived growing up with 49 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: her sister when the group was initially formed. What's next 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: for her? Uh? She has a new music dropping on day, 51 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: so I encourage everybody to check it out by the 52 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: time you listen to this podcast and will be out. 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: It's another single and she um is just giving us 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: some true life lessons. I say, a man a lot, 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: so do not be annoyed. I say, tell me more 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: a lot, so do not be annoyed. And per usual, 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: you can always pass forward through the commercials. I appreciate 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: when you guys do that to back, relax and enjoy 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Erica Campbell, Chappion and carry Chappi and they carry Cheppi 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: Um without further ado. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Erica Campbell 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: to the podcast. Erica, you said to me prior to 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: us beginning that you have been doing press all day. 63 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Tell us about what is happening in your world. Uh well, um, 64 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: my last single Positive got nominated for Grammy, which is 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: super excited about that. Thank you. I released my new 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: single feel Alright Blessed this Friday, and I'm just you know, 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to be the best version of myself, 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: and um putting out songs like this is a message 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: that first I sing to myself, and so I want 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: to be able to sing it with confidence. And when 71 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: you've experienced bad days, when you've experienced the negative, when 72 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: the positive does come, it's just it's more rewarding. You know, 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: when you felt bad and you didn't feel blessed, when 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: you do feel blessed, it's like, girl, let me tell 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: you about this. So that's why the music that I 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: sing it's such a it's such a passion for me 77 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: because so many people are in a low space and 78 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: in a low place, and if you could just give 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: them a little hope just to keep going. Um, then 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm doing my job on planet Earth. Yeah, 81 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: I think you are. I I've often been curious when 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: people have been given um such a beautiful talent as singing. 83 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: But you will hear all the time people will say, 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: if I could have one talent, it will be singing. 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Everyone asked if you could do one thing right, people 86 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: like me, who was like, if I could do one thing, 87 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: it would be beautiful if I could sing. When did 88 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: you know like growing up? Walk me through this, this 89 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: rite of passage. I'm assuming that you had um you 90 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: were where were you born? And and and and how 91 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: were your circumstances growing up? And when did you know 92 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: you had? This voice? Is beautiful gift from God. I 93 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: grew up in a big family. I was born in 94 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: the Lynnwood, California um. Two uh, two parents who loved 95 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: God and loved each other and loved us. But we're 96 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: complicated human beings as we all are. UM. I remember 97 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: we moved a lot. We were not rich at all, 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: so we moved a lot um. But we had a 99 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: whole lot of love, a whole lot of laughter. And 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: when we were little kids, my father would call us 101 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: in the room to pray around the bed, me and 102 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: my sisters UM. And then after he would pray and 103 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: read a scripture, he would ask me to sing. And 104 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: I think the youngest age I remember is about five, 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: remembering my parents faces when I would sing UM. It 106 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: was a song called Ordinary People by Danny Bell that 107 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I remembered UM. At this time, we were living in Inglewood, 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: it where mostly we moved around Inglewood, and I just 109 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: saw this, this pride and joy in their face. And 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: while I loved it, I love the effects of it, 111 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: especially on my parents, and so I always wanted to 112 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: make them proud. Um. Of course I didn't know that 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: it was this gift when I was young, you know, 114 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to go outside and play, and my mom, 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: maybe being a choir earlier on, I wanted to do 116 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: what my other friends did. And I remember um women 117 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: in the church praying over me, saying, you're a little 118 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: bit different from everybody else. You're not going to be 119 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: able to do what everyone else does. Well, that's the 120 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: worst thing you can tell a young person, because all 121 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: you want to do when you're young is what everyone 122 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: else is doing. So it took me a bit of 123 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: time to get to this place of confidence, but I 124 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: think all of that made me who I am. All 125 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: of that allowed me to speak to people who have 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: been in that place, in that low place, and have 127 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: been striving for dreaming about better and getting to better 128 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: and what that means and what looks like I when 129 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: I look at you, I will First of all, I 130 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: grew up in l A too, but not like you know, 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: like I was like in West l A. But I 132 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: feel like we're sisters in that way because the l 133 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: A thing is very palpable. You could deal it. That's 134 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: a side note. How do you in your life, you know, 135 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: with this, with this gift? How do you in your life? Always? 136 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Are you? Always as happy? And I beat and so positive? 137 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: As I'm looking at you, I'm like, she's so smart, 138 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: she knows everything that she's saying, like she's very kind. 139 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: Is this is this every day? How do you do 140 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: this every day? Girl? No, it is a choice. And said, 141 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: don't feel good to me? Mad, don't don't you don't. 142 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't sit well. And sometimes I'm there 143 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: and when I am there, all I'm doing is thinking 144 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: about getting out of that place. You know. Um So 145 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I like resolve. I like having healthy conversations even when 146 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: they're tough, because I don't I don't fake will know 147 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah, you got I gotta with or 148 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I just I don't. Maybe it's an l A thing. 149 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. Yeah, well I do. I 150 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: do believe we are different from other people. Like I 151 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: say this all the time people, and I say this 152 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: on this podcast. If you're from l A, you're not 153 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: so much like looking over your shoulder for the next one, 154 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: like you're like, no, it's just good, it's fine, Like 155 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: you're not You're not out for the fame of it, 156 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: all right, and right. That leads me to my next question. So, 157 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: so you be in your world become famous, which is 158 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to be famous period, but let alone 159 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: in a in a very niche world of gospel. Um, 160 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: it's even I think even more difficult to transition to 161 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: what I feel is mainstream. Um, meaning I could say 162 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: your name everywhere and ye know I've heard of them 163 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: that TV. Tell me how that how that worked for you? 164 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Was there a push and pull of I don't want 165 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: to be secular? Was there a push a pool of 166 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: is this going to affect me as a person if 167 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm in this world? I feel like I was prepped 168 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: for this, for this kind of fame and success because 169 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: my family was a big deal in l A. So 170 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: like in the church, in the church circus. So the 171 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: Atkins family, like when we went somewhere, the whole choir 172 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: was usually me and all my sisters, and my mom's 173 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: this beautiful woman, my my dad's this handsome man who's 174 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, funny and charismatic and could preach really well. 175 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: So when we came, it was a thing. So we 176 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: knew we had to be kind of on. So you 177 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: learn that you are kind of seen and people paid 178 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: attention to you. So as I became famous, I was 179 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: already semi prepared for that. Church life does that for 180 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: you because you know, as a preacher's kid and the 181 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: pastor's niece, there's a certain requirement. You can't act the 182 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: food like everybody else. Well, I and I I loved them, 183 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: I honored them. They were real people in my life. Um. 184 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: They allowed me to be human, they allowed me to 185 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: have errors, but they required something of me. So as 186 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: I grew and and this same thing group, Um, I 187 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: was already prepared for it. Um. I dreamed of big stages, 188 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: I dreamed of people. Yeah, I dreamed of it as 189 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: a little girl. Um. Even being married Mary Mary Mary 190 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: was great. But me and Tina didn't grow up as 191 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: a group. We weren't like always a duo. She sang 192 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: with her friend Erica, and I sang with my friends, 193 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: and her friend Erica wasn't there at a particular service, 194 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'll sing it with you, and 195 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: we sang together, and it was like, so we were 196 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: both making up songs. That's what we used to say. 197 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: We didn't even call ourselves songwriters. And I was about 198 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen. Um by the time we met Warren, Um, 199 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: I was twenty. Tina was like eighteen, and um we 200 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: became a group, so you know, all that happens and 201 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: Mary Mary explodes and we're all over the world and 202 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But I had been saying 203 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: since I was six by myself, and the dreams were different, 204 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: and so at first I thought, well, maybe I just 205 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: dreamed wrong. When I first went solo in two thousand 206 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: and thirteen, right after I had my daughter, I heard 207 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: God whisper to me, I didn't forget. I didn't forget 208 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: the dreams that you had as a little girl. It's 209 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: still a moment for me, um, because you know how 210 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: you desire things and when it doesn't come, you just 211 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: ship what you want to kind of make it okay. 212 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: You just kind of let that dream die because what 213 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: was happening in my career was so great. You know, Mary, 214 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: he was winning Grammy's and Platinum and TV and you know, 215 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: we were in the rooms with all the people and 216 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: all the things. Um. But there was another dream I had, 217 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: and so God allowed me to, even after we decided 218 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: to take a minute on Mary Mary, to still become myself. 219 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: And that's hard to do when you're in a big family, 220 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: because when you're in a big family, you are it's 221 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: it's the girls. I almost didn't have an identity. People 222 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: called me Tina for the first few years, or they 223 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: still will say, hey, Teena, I'll go I'm I'm Erica. 224 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: But that's fine. Problem, but it's fablishing me. Just because 225 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: they don't know who I am. Does mean I don't 226 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: know who I am. So I don't get bothered. I 227 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: don't get bothered by people who don't know. And you 228 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: just haven't met me yet. You just don't know. I'm awesome. 229 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: But keep up, stay on the stone. I'll show you, 230 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: so I don't get easily bothered by that. I cannot 231 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: with you, Erica. I need you to pause. On the 232 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: sermon because I wasn't ready. Okay, because I wasn't ready, 233 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: you get Oh, I was thinking so much food. I 234 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: don't have my pin and paper. I want to I 235 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: want to take notes on my phone. If you were 236 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: driving in the car and you hear Erica giving this message, 237 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: pull over and get that pin and paper out. Dictate 238 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do, Pause, go back, rewind, press fifteen seconds. 239 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: You said, I heard God say after I achieved fame 240 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: in this this arena, as as this a part of 241 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: this group, this very well known group of Mary Mary, 242 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: that I didn't forget. I didn't forget. How important is 243 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: that message for anyone There is um a man or 244 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: a woman listening to this podcast who thanks God forgot 245 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: about their dreams of of love, of children, of fame, 246 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: of fortune, of success, of whatever you know, reconciliation. You 247 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: think he forgotten, He didn't forget. Go through that moment. Yes, 248 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: his time is not our time, His way is not 249 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: our way. And when we yield ourselves and I hear 250 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: this so much, when we yield ourselves to where we 251 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: are as opposed to fighting it and telling ourselves we 252 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: don't want it because we don't believe it will come, 253 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: that's when it comes. Um. And even in that process 254 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: of God saying it's time, then my voice went haywire 255 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: like I sounded when I first started solo. Every live performance, 256 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: I was terrified that I wouldn't be enough. There are 257 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: some horrible performances out there. YouTube did me dirty. But 258 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: it is what it is. It is what it is, 259 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: and I realized that God didn't change his mind about me. 260 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: I was just it was a phase. Something was going on. 261 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: I need reacquainted with my instrument and learn how to 262 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: perfect it, as opposed to saying I got here and 263 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: now I'm not ready for it. And I was like, no, 264 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: this is just a part of the story. This makes 265 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: the story better. Who wants to watch a movie that 266 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have the dunt dunt dun. Sometimes in our life 267 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: that's what we're going for. It's the waiting, it's the searching, 268 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: it's the valleys, the dark place. But if you hold 269 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: on and if you truly believe, you open yourself up 270 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: to receive all that God has for you. That's hard 271 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: to do when devastation is in your face. That's hard 272 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: to do when it's taking longer than you wanted to 273 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: to to steal wake up in the morning and speaking 274 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: affirmation of I'm valuable, I'm necessary, you know what I mean. 275 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm here and I'm ready. When God opens the door, 276 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: I'll walk through. And I spent a lot of years 277 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: saying that. You know, your first interviews, they are always 278 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: ask what's going on? None going on? But one song 279 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: I had Shackles. That was it. So every interview I 280 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: would say stuff like, oh, whatever door opens for me, 281 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: I'll walk through it. Because it wasn't no doors. But 282 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: what was happening was God was preparing me for the doors, 283 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: because what do you do when it's a lot of doors? 284 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: Then you're overwhelmed and the very blessing that you ask 285 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: for is also your point of stress. A church, a 286 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: radio show, music, trying to maintain my my identity and individuality, 287 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: trying to be a good wife, trying to be a 288 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: good friend, you know, all those things, trying to drink 289 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: my water, keep my scaring like it's it's so much, 290 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, and you can ask God for things and 291 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: not be ready for it. So in those times, God 292 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: is literally preparing you. At my church, we say something 293 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: every set every Sunday, God, prepare me for what you 294 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: have prepared for me. And if you believe that, you 295 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: live a little bit different. You know what I mean, 296 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: You go through trials a little bit different because you believe. 297 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: I know the victory is mine, I know it is 298 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I know you have something great. I'm not gonna act 299 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be here forever. So that's why I 300 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: write songs like I write because they are my own anthems. 301 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes I get in my own car and I have 302 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: to play can't give up now. I have to get 303 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: in my car and just drive and I'll be like, 304 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: all right, y'all, I'll be back, and I just drive 305 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: by the beach and I just affirmed myself. Erica, you 306 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: wrote this, you sang this. Millions of people bought this, 307 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: and they believe what you said. Do you believe what 308 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: you said? And so we have to make that choice 309 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: in the face of whatever friends, relationship, money, this industry. 310 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: You have to learn to affirm yourself. So when you 311 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: lay down at night, you literally rest, not just fal 312 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: asleep with my phone in my hand. I was trying 313 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: to do something because I was trying to get away 314 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: from my own thoughts and just fall asleep. No, I'm 315 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: going to sleep I'm gonna settle my thoughts. I'm gonna 316 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: release my hands, I'm gonna release my tongue from the 317 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: roof of my mouth. I won't go to sleep. I'm 318 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: going to rest and trust. And you only do that 319 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: after you've gotten through the storm, after you've come through 320 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: the thing, and you go, oh, I didn't die in 321 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: that trial. I didn't lose my mind. Oh life didn't 322 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: end because they left. And once you get through that, 323 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: you go superwoman. I can conquer anything. You I'm telling you, 324 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: you're amen to that, because there is no better feeling 325 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: than accomplishing something. When you when when you can really recount, 326 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: you thought you couldn't accomplish said thing, you're like, I'm 327 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of it, and then when you get 328 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: through it, you're like, I did that, Okay. The very 329 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: thing that you prayed for is the very point of 330 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: stress for you. I say that in such a real way. 331 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: All I've ever wanted was my own TV show. When 332 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: I saw Oprah, I'm gonna do what Oprah did. I 333 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: give my own TV show the most stressful experience of 334 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: my life, and I'm like, wait a second, but this 335 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: is what I prayed for, This is what I asked you, right, So, 336 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: so what do we do when we get it? Because 337 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: I'm believing in affirming for everybody who has it, what 338 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: do we do when we get it? Ask for strength 339 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: to maintain it. There's a Scriptures that says the blessings 340 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: of the Lord make it rich and add it no sorrow. 341 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: And so when I'm when I am sorrowful and I 342 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: am stressed out, I'll say, Lord, you you call these 343 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: things blessings, my husband, my kids, my life. You call 344 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: this thing a blessing, and you said it I shouldn't 345 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: have sorrow, but I have sorrow. Can you lift it 346 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: or give me a different perspective so I can go 347 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: through this in a different way, because when it's heavy, 348 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: it's heavy, you know. But if he told me I 349 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: don't have to carry it by myself, then I'll say, God, here, 350 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: you take this. Because usually the stress comes from um, Am, 351 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: I good enough? Will this work out? Will they be 352 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: in partnership? Will all those things? These uncontrollable variables, you know? 353 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: And when you realize I can't stressing and got stress 354 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: and don't make it better? And that's what Mary Mary 355 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: said and yesterday stress and don't make it better? After 356 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: you finished stressing and what changes nothing? You just lost sleep? 357 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: Uh huh huh. Time to take a quick break. I 358 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: have to pay the bills. It's been a while. This 359 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: is the first episode back since the new year, so 360 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: stick with us. Get the fast forward button if need. 361 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: Be every champion and care every chappion is to be 362 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: a champion, a champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappiana. 363 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappions and sports. And 364 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: then the taming can make it work. Every Chappion and 365 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: carry Chappion is to be a champion, a champion, they 366 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: carry champion the Chappion, they carry Champion and carry Chappion 367 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: and sports. And then the taming can make it work. Hey, everybody, 368 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: welcome back. We have Erica Campbell still here. Um, get 369 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: your pin and paper out because it's so true. It's 370 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: a sermon. It's a sermon for all. I hope you 371 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: enjoy this edition of Naked. It's so beautiful, full to 372 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: hear you talk so candidly and honestly, and and and 373 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: more importantly you now you see right, So now we 374 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: see why you were giving that vessel to speak to 375 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: so many people, and and really It's like the gift 376 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: of exhortation because I'm locked in. Do you think that 377 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: the career that you have, in the fame that you 378 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: have make you compromise? Ever, because I certainly believe earlier 379 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: in my career I compromise to get certain things. And 380 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: I and you call it playing the game. And by compromise, 381 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes every decision wasn't of God right. Every 382 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: decision you make, every choice you choose, UM doesn't have 383 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: that more that moral compass that you you would normally do. 384 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: Has that happened? And if so, how do you deal 385 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: with that? Because I think people would want to know 386 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: we all make these compromises. How do you deal when 387 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: you make these compromises? Lord, get me out of here, 388 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: Give me out of here. Supposed being this wrong, Father, 389 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: God helped me out. I mean, there's no super spiritual 390 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: ways when you know, God, if you get me out 391 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: of here, I promise you. You know, because you thought 392 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: it was cool or you thought oh this is gonna 393 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: be dope, you'd be like, Lord, just get me out 394 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: of this situation. And so that's how you learn your boundaries. 395 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: You know, Um, when you look at all things working 396 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: together for the good You learn a lot about yourself 397 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: in those situations. You learn if you have the strength 398 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: to go through what you learn. If you're maybe a 399 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: little bit too flexible, you learn your strength. You learn. 400 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: Do I know how to stand up for my faith, 401 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: for what I believe in in a room full of 402 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: people that could financially change my life? Yeah? You know 403 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Do I compromise money? And I know 404 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: a lot of sad and depressed. I know a lot 405 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: of people who have a lot and look great online 406 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: and social media, but they ain't happy. I literally had 407 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: a lady who was posting all this stuff online. You know, 408 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: she's you know, in my in my circle and in 409 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: my life, and so I was so happy for I 410 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I'm so happy. I'm commenting 411 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: herds and oh go get a girl. Then I get 412 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: a message she's like, I'm I'm tired. I was like, 413 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: what do you mean tired? She was like, of life 414 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, girl, you know why you're tired 415 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: because you won't be honest. Sometimes the place your your 416 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: platform can also be a place of vulnerability where you say, 417 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: because you're trying to carry this, I have to be 418 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: I have to be. I have to be, and and 419 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: sometimes you're just not. It's okay to say, y'all today 420 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: it's not a good day. Wig Off lashes off. Nobody 421 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: just say it prayerfully. It's been times when I've gone 422 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: to my Twitter page and I go, y'all just need 423 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: prayer today. It ain't a good one. Maybe it will 424 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: be tomorrow, but it's not a good one. And I 425 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: think that level of honesty helps me when I get 426 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: in a moment, I'll go, oh, you got it wrong 427 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: this time. Maybe it was motivated by maybe I was 428 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: having insecure day when that request came through, and I 429 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: said yes because I needed to feel you know what 430 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean something because the enemy sends invitations too absolutely 431 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: and they're too good to be. The devil is well 432 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: connected and well funded everything he wants to do. You 433 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna destroy you. You feel like I'm 434 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: having a good time. I'm living my life and and 435 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of your joy, a little bit of 436 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: your peace dies. But every time you walk outside of 437 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: your purpose for something that you think is a is 438 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: a source of joy or like I love that, I 439 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: love that, I love that. Do you ever think and 440 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: you have like you talked about coming and the reason 441 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: why I keep going back to the origin story of 442 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: a family because I really believe that it may to 443 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: you who you are. UM, and you were used to 444 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the limelight. You talk about your father well known, UM, 445 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: and your mom's you know, you guys were the family 446 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: you So was there already an expectation on you growing 447 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: up that you had to be something. I'm curious because that, 448 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: to me affects how you move. Yes, but I think 449 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: it came more from me. You know. I knew I 450 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: had to sing, you know. Um. We went to Christian 451 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: School for a short time because we couldn't afford to 452 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: stay there. UM. And when everybody else had to learn 453 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: a scripture, I had to learn the scripture and I 454 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: had to sing a song. So I always had to sing. 455 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: That was always a part of the thing. When people 456 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: did Eastern speeches on Sunday, I had to sing. And 457 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I loved it. I did it in school, 458 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean elementary school, the school plays, it was all 459 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: of that. So without it even coming from my parents, 460 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: I knew it was what I wanted to do. And 461 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: so a lot of what I did was because I 462 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: believe that was gonna be great. Um So I was 463 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: singing background for Brian McKnight since we're naked, I'm gonna 464 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: be honest. I was singing background for Brian McKnight and 465 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: I was on the road and um, when you grow up, 466 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: coach at CHURCHI God in Christ in the costal, secular 467 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: music is a sin, so we weren't supposed to listen 468 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: to it or anything like that. You can only sing 469 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: it at weddings, right crazy, So off, um my was 470 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: my pastor said, Um, I believe you're supposed to do 471 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: this because I believe there's something you're supposed to learn. 472 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: So I go on the road with Brian McKnight and 473 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: one of the shows, this um hip hop artist is 474 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: in the audience, who I have had a crush on. 475 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I noticed I'm singing do what across 476 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: your mind and time saying with Brian McKnight, and I 477 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: see him just looking, and he just looking, and I'm 478 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: going I'm then I tapped the girl next to me. 479 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: I want girl staring, you know, something like oh no no, no, no, 480 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: no no no. So after the show, we're in the 481 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: green room and he walks past the dressing room and 482 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: we have this exchange and it's you know, you can 483 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: feel a little vibe. And then they're talking about going 484 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: out after the show, and and somehow where I was 485 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: positioned it where he was positioned. He looks at me 486 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: and says, don't go so win a lot of the hotel. 487 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: My friend. I was like, get me out of here. Now, 488 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: I can praise you better than I said. I'm gonna 489 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: be a gospel artist one day. One day, I'm gonna 490 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: be a big deal. I don't want to be in 491 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: a room talking about Jesus, God Lord and baby Jesus. 492 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, I know you in the biblical sense. 493 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: I just didn't. And that happened like a few times. 494 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: It was always like somebody that I would have a 495 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: crush on. I was in the elevator with these two 496 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: R and B singers and they were just going on, 497 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, she fine, she's so fine, she's so fine. 498 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: I was singing with everybody at the time, and um, 499 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, one gets off the elevator and he was like, oh, 500 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm in room such and such. I was like, okay, 501 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: rest well, and then I go up and the next 502 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: one he was like, I mean, if you're not doing nothing. 503 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, we can just go. I was like, you 504 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: know what, give me strength, give me strength, and yeah, yeah, 505 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: I believe. I believe. I believe it takes one moment 506 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: to destroy your destiny. It only takes one wrong decision 507 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: to take everything left. And it doesn't mean that God 508 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: can't still use you. You're just having out this unnecessary 509 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: bump in the road, Like, yeah, I see what you forgiveness, 510 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: But you're like, do you have to do that to 511 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: get to where you want to be? You don't have 512 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: to do that. I don't. I don't want it to 513 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: be a part of my story. I got a little 514 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: bit more self control than that. Can. I want my 515 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: dream more than I want you. My desire to UM 516 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: is bigger than you. So you are UM. You've always 517 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: known you're a knower. Like people talk about what people are, 518 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: You've always known. Everything that you've said to me never 519 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: has led me to believe that. Yes, you may have 520 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: had moments where you didn't believe, but you've always known. 521 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: Isn't that special? That's how you know that your dream 522 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: was was truly ordained, and you were and you already 523 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: had the destiny. You are a No, you have not 524 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if you even heard yourself talking. You're 525 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: like now, until I heard God say, I didn't forget. No, 526 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: I knew I put the pressure on me, and I 527 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: knew that I would be when I was a kid. No, 528 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: I understood what it was, and I didn't necessarily like 529 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: every move you made was because you knew what it 530 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: was supposed to be. I don't, no matter how long. 531 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: It's because I was also insecure. I was also shy. 532 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: I was also the girl that didn't speak up. I 533 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: was the friend that whatever everybody wanted to do, Okay, 534 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: we haven't tacos, even if I wanted burgers, Okay, tacos 535 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: are fine, you know, if they were going somewhere. I 536 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: was just because I wanted my friends. So I wanted 537 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: to be liked. I wanted to be cool, because when 538 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: you're a church girl, that's not the cool girl in school. 539 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: Even though I was cute, I was the corny church girl. 540 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't go to the parties. I couldn't go, you know. 541 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: And even if I did go to like the school dance, 542 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: somebody came and it was like, what you're doing here? 543 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Charge girls? It was always that thing. But it was 544 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: always that thing absolutely, you know what I mean. So 545 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: it can either be a bad thing or it can 546 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 1: be the special thing, the very thing that has allowed 547 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: me to be and to become. So even in my 548 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: moments of you're not good enough, like the people that 549 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: I auditioned, everything that I ever auditioned for, they told 550 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: me no anything I ever went out for, I never 551 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: got one thing, never won contest, none of that that, 552 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm still gonna be some one day. 553 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how and I don't know when, but 554 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be something one day. I mean, even going 555 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: through relationships and going through my breakups, I was like, yeah, 556 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not a boy myself kind of girl. 557 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna cry for about two weeks and then 558 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get over it. So like anybody, like you know, 559 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: I've been dumped, and then there's been times that I 560 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: had to walk away and I was like, I mean, 561 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna crying real hard for about two weeks. What's 562 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: happing on? I'm giving you two weeks? Yeah, Max, You're 563 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: not crying over this three months. You know, you're gonn 564 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: through the whole thing. You can't eat, You're sad, you cry, 565 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: you lose weight, and then you'd be like, okay, it's over. 566 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do? You don't okay? Yeah, But I 567 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: asking myself why we aren't asking him why I don't 568 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: need closure? Closure? As you left, it's closed. What what 569 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: you gotta tell me that you don't want to be 570 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: like people like when I talk to a lot of 571 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: my single friends that go through breakups. I just want 572 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: to know why I don't. If you wanted to be here, 573 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: this is where you would be. You gave me the 574 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: answer when you left. I'm gonna call you a few times, 575 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: and then after you don't call me back, I got 576 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: the message loud and clear. I'm not about myself. Find 577 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: a girl. I'm moving on to the next one. So 578 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: the beauty of being a knower um, and you just 579 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: said it's always been that thing, right, like maybe the 580 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: insecure thing, but it's also been that thing that you 581 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: knew that you deserve what you're supposed to have. That's 582 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: a beautiful but it's a beautiful place to be. I 583 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: I ask you this for all your fans who say 584 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: I want to see this from you, and I want 585 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: to see that from you. What do you hear most 586 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: from your fans. What are their requests because it seems 587 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: like you're on social you interact with them and you engage. 588 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: What do they want from Erica. I think they want um, 589 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: they want in person interaction, m Um. Some of them 590 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: want to say thank you. Oh that feels so amazing. UM. 591 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: A lot of them want Mary Mary, which is fine. 592 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I love and miss singing with my sister. Even though 593 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: two was amazing for Mary Mary, like with no new music, 594 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl to the versus Hollywood Bowl, seeing 595 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: in closing out the Juneteenth celebration, so many amazing things, 596 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: and even when the the top the top artist of 597 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: the Year came out, like Mary Mary was on the list, 598 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: it was just like, and God, you have a way 599 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: of showing me. Even though you're moved on to this, 600 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm still blessing that because you were obedient in that, 601 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: you were faithful in that you stuck with it in 602 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna also bless this for your faithfulness, faithfulness 603 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: and gratefulness. That's something so powerful. It's impossible to be sad, 604 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: depressed and anxious and grateful at the same time. You can't, 605 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If you're saying, I'm just 606 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm breathing. I'm happy for breath. I have no breathing. 607 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm happy just for breath. Thank you know what I mean? 608 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: My legs work. I'm happy to start with the small thing. 609 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah you know. Yeah, Every champion and carry champion is 610 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: to be a champion of Champion and carry Chappion and 611 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: carry chapiyon Champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappion and 612 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: enter team making many Chappion. They carry champions champy on 613 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: the Champion, they carry Chappion and Chappi and they carry 614 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: Chappi and they carry Chappi. I am so grateful for 615 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: this because it's such a message. I don't care where 616 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: you are in life. If things are seemingly great and 617 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: they're not greater they could, it's all good because you're 618 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: reminding me of the basics. Like, first of all, I'm 619 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: a big believer in dreams. I don't believe dreams are 620 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: placed in your heart and then they disappear. I believe 621 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: if it's your calling will stay there. It will, it will, 622 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: and you have to fight for it. You have to 623 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: push for it. God doesn't do anything for you without you. 624 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: You can believe, but the Bible says faith without works 625 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: is Dave's dead. Are you relie, Are you really working 626 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: towards your dream? Are you doing a little bit and 627 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: trying to wait for it to come to you. When 628 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: I was in I was going to every concert, every event. 629 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: I sang it everything I could. I talked to every producer. 630 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: I you until it happened for me. You know, it 631 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: didn't happen. I was singing when I was five. I 632 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: didn't get signed until I was eight. Mary Made didn't 633 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: come out, so I was twenty eight years old, so 634 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: us a lot of years. You know, when you think 635 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a child star and then you think 636 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen here and it's gonna you never you 637 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: never give up, never give up. Wow, Wow, Erica, I 638 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: love that. I love that about you. I love you 639 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: saying that you still like he did not forget and 640 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: he told you that, So then you get all the 641 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: things right, You get all the things. And I was like, 642 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, she's famous, she's rich, she's pretty, she 643 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: had a husband, she had babies. You get all the things, 644 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: and we just are like, we want to do it too. 645 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: Tell us about the book of how to, and then 646 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: you get there and you still feel like there might 647 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: be a little more you want. How do you settle 648 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: your spirit when you're so ambitious? That's a good question. Funny, 649 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: my phone's ringing. It was my sister Tina. She's always 650 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: telling me, like Erica, when do you sleep? Okay, we 651 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: love the ambition, but don't wear yourself out. My older 652 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: sister calls me and says, come over my house and 653 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: just lay down. I'm cooking for you. M hm. So okay, 654 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: they help me, help me. I wrote a book called 655 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: um More than Pretty, Doing the soul work that uncovers 656 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: your true beauty. Um. When the amazing things are happening, 657 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't know that they're amazing, they're just life 658 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: is happening. And Um, as life happens and you embrace it, 659 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: you go, oh, this is the blessing, right, UM, this 660 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: is this is what I prayed for even before you 661 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: see it. Um. But it takes trust, it takes patience, UM, 662 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: long suffering. That's a word in the Bible, long suffering. 663 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: It takes you know, because it's just not easy, that's 664 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: not you know, and you you do you always want 665 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: something else? Are you content? Right now if Erica is 666 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: Erica Campbell ready to retire, discuss say there's more. I'm 667 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: just curious you're like, never retire. Um. So my song 668 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: feel Alright Blessed comes out Friday thirteen. I started working 669 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: on my podcast yesterday. Ungratulations. I would love to talk 670 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: to you on my podcast. I would again. Can you 671 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: talk about the podcast, like what platforms on how we 672 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: can find it? Yeah? Tell us more. It's UM, it's 673 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: so many questions with Erica Campbell because we all got 674 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: questions right about life and all the things, and you 675 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: have the answers. By the way, I'm going to educate. Yo. 676 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: It is on the Urban one podcast network. Um. Super 677 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: excited about that. On the new album called called In 678 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: My Dreams. Actually, Um, that comes out the day before 679 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: my birthday and my daughters at Spellman, my two youngest 680 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: are going to middle school. My church is doing It's 681 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: just it's good. It's sweet. Right now. Me and my 682 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: husband we're talking about it. We were driving and I 683 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: was like, don't think I feel like real sweet? He said, yeah, 684 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: I could get I could get a little bit nervous. 685 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: I was like, don't bebe let's just enjoy it. Enjoy 686 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: its good right now, it's you know, and it does 687 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: it'll be bad. It doesn't have to do. So I 688 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: know that I look at you and I think there's 689 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: so much more to come. As I call you a 690 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: nowhere as I just said, that word was introduced to 691 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: me not long ago. UM, and when you know, you know, 692 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: but that's just God's calling because I knew. So the 693 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: fact that I hear you speak even more confidently than 694 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: I ever probably have in my life is really refreshing 695 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: and assuring and and you know that you've been chosen 696 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: and it is such a blessing for you to just 697 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: share your message with us, like I I appreciate you, 698 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: I really truly do. There is you know, it's a 699 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: black women right here pulling over like Okay, she didn't 700 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: gave me a word, and you go ahead back and rewind. 701 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure you get that often, so everybody has to 702 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: go on support. UM. I just want to say, honestly 703 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: and not kidding, been a fan for a long time 704 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: for so many people. Funny story, UM, behind the scenes, 705 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: when we always know who we're when we get our guests. UM. 706 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: One of our producers who does our social media was like, 707 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: she's our first episode of the year, right, Like, we're 708 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: doing her first right in terms of it, she's coming 709 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: before and I was like, oh, you're excited. I got 710 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: and I got excited because she got excited. So it 711 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: was really sweet and I and it wasn't I knew 712 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: what she was saying. First episode of the year, back 713 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: from break and she was so excited, and I was like, 714 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: she's a special one. So I just want you to know. 715 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the fan base is deep. I'm a true fan. 716 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: I think you're great. Growing up in l A, there's 717 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: always somebody who says they know you and know you. 718 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: That's why I was like, I got Francis, they didn't 719 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: know you. I don't know if they do, but you 720 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: know west Side right were Um, when is your podcast launched? 721 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: So we know to support you, know how to give 722 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: you a specific date. Um, we are starting the recordings, 723 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: so we're getting I'm really really fresh in the process. 724 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: You know when ago, Please let me know so we 725 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: can promote. I would love to. I would do, and 726 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: so I can listening more so I can take some notes. 727 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: I'm sending it directly to you. I'm gonna trying to 728 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: get your phone number and harass you and be your 729 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: be your new best friend. You like I got enough? Yes, 730 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: I love that. Erica Campbell the greatest. I mean, she 731 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: does it all, and quite frankly, she deserves it all. 732 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being a knower and sharing 733 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: your dreams with us on Naked. You are more than welcome. 734 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for having having so I for the holidays. Uh, 735 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: I was gone. I went to Ghana. It's an amazing experience. 736 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: And so there were two episodes. We took a two 737 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: week break and now we're back in full effect. And 738 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we are kicking off our very first 739 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: episode of the new year with Eric Campbell with such 740 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: a powerful message. I think my biggest takeaway from her 741 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: is simply that, Um, she is a knower. She knows 742 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: what she wants in life. She never ever, no matter 743 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: how much we doubt, she never ever not fully in 744 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: the dream and the promise that was given to her. 745 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: And I think that is something special. Um, it's special 746 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: to be a knower. I think oftentimes we all know, 747 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: but we refuse to acknowledge what we know. Uh. And 748 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: she didn't do that, And I felt like everything she 749 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: talked about was a true testimony, Like I said before, 750 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily have to believe in Her God or 751 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: our God, or whatever God that is, but you do 752 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: have to understand these are life lessons that are truly invaluable. 753 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: Happy New Year. You can still say that to the 754 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: end of the month. I don't care what Larry David says. 755 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed this edition of Naked Talk to 756 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: y'all next week.