WEBVTT - Titanic: VHS Tape 1

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<v Speaker 1>On the Beck doldcast, the questions asked if movies have

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<v Speaker 1>women and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and

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<v Speaker 1>husbands or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef in

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<v Speaker 1>best start changing it with the beck del cast. Hello friends,

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic doesn't make that noise. That's noises from SpongeBob SquarePants. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but Titanic makes like a what yes, yes, now that

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<v Speaker 1>you now that you do that, I do remember that? Yes. Welcomecast.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are Titanic Volumes seven. Um, so here's what

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<v Speaker 1>has happened listeners. We recorded an episode that is very

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<v Speaker 1>long on Titanic, so we are naturally breaking it up

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<v Speaker 1>into two episodes. You might even call them to VHS tapes,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a tape one tape two. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to find as you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>these two episodes over the course of the next two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks is some listeners are going to skew a little

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<v Speaker 1>more tape one, other listeners are going to skew a

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<v Speaker 1>little more tape two. And it just kind of depends

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<v Speaker 1>on what your genre preferences are. Do you do you

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<v Speaker 1>like a solid recap or do you like unmitigated action? Chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's this episode has everything, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Caitlin, I'm sure we talked about this in

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<v Speaker 1>the episode also, but every single year when we do

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<v Speaker 1>this episode again, we always think this is the year

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<v Speaker 1>that we will have nothing to talk about and we

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<v Speaker 1>will have to sort of start easing off of the

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic episodes. But guess what, as if this maybe our

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<v Speaker 1>longest yet, we maybe have more to say than ever before,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of I was honestly kind of shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Not me. I know that our titan episodes show like

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<v Speaker 1>exponential growth or like you know, like something about like

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<v Speaker 1>compounded interests that one grain of rice. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>person in stem, but I do understand enough math to

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<v Speaker 1>know that our Titanic episodes will always get longer and

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<v Speaker 1>longer and longer. And that's just science. There's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be more and and as we record this today, not

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<v Speaker 1>to shock everyone, but we're going to see Titanic in

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<v Speaker 1>a gigantic group tonight. Caitlin spearheaded the operation, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've just about filled the theater with people that

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<v Speaker 1>we know who want to see Titanic because guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wants to see Titanic, not fools exactly. I emailed

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<v Speaker 1>all of my friends and I said, treat this as

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<v Speaker 1>though it's my wedding. I'm not going to actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding. This is the equivalent of the big romantic

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<v Speaker 1>event of my life. You don't have to bring me gifts,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can if you want, and please just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure calm and support me on this day, the best

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<v Speaker 1>day of my life. So that's what top in this evening.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. I mean, I hope that you're wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a gown or a talks I mean, look whatever, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>cosplaying as Fabritto, which yes, I mean, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a solid fit it really And I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>have a wedding some day. But I would also like

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<v Speaker 1>to make people watch Titanic at it. Um. Wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 1>be a horrific that would be on scale with the

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic in terms of an inescapable hostage situation where everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is like praying for death. Um, disagree, disagree. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that people will be yeah, well you'll be you'll be cheer,

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be doing a rocky horror picture show kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing in front, which honestly, I think we've filled this

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<v Speaker 1>theater enough that I mean the poor to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>But we could do a full rocky horror like Jack

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<v Speaker 1>and Rose. We've I mean, we've read, we've done the

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<v Speaker 1>script before. We've been wanting to do a live show.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's what we'll end up talking about. Next year's

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<v Speaker 1>The Titanic from Memory, which would just be a performance

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie Titanic from us. It's not like we

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<v Speaker 1>lack the chops. Yeah, we we got this anyway. So

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<v Speaker 1>what you're about to hear on VHS tape one, the

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<v Speaker 1>episode that you're listening to right now, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just Jamie and I doing our history with Titanic and

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic episodes we've done, which have mostly been on the Matreon,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't forget to scoot on over to the Matreon.

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<v Speaker 1>We've done a lot of beautiful there's the drunk one,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a commentary track. There's the one where we watched

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<v Speaker 1>the cartoon based off of the Titanic that was made

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<v Speaker 1>in Italy that makes no sense. We've watched everything, We've

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<v Speaker 1>done it all. And while I'm plugging stuff, while we're

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<v Speaker 1>plugging out here, just a sidebar, we did some live

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<v Speaker 1>shows recently in Portland that we also live streamed with

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Marshall and Robert Evans. And guess what if you

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<v Speaker 1>missed the live dreams, those shows are now on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>You can buy a ticket to access them on demand,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can still see them. And if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, the tickets to access those on demand

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<v Speaker 1>shows are on our link tree, link Tree slash spectel

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<v Speaker 1>Cast and you should really check those out because they

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<v Speaker 1>were and a holler fun. We're gonna be releasing truncated

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<v Speaker 1>versions of those shows. But yeah, that we did the

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<v Speaker 1>Goonies with Sarah Marshall so much fun. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>did the Handah Montana movie with Robert Evans and you're

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna want to the live stream because we do

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<v Speaker 1>wear Hannah Montana Wiggs and Robert brought a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>knives and that is not going to come through in

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<v Speaker 1>the audio. Um so you can just need needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen to be believed. A spectacle, much like the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Titanic. So yeah, oh we're not. I mean and

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<v Speaker 1>have I listened to Titanic just audio walking around? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the same. No, it's not. I wish we

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<v Speaker 1>could release our live streams in three d but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in twenty five years we can really and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can see me accidentally throw a knife at

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. You feel like it's coming at you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and and just in general, I mean, to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who came to our to our shows in l A,

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco, in Portland, and in Seattle, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. We had such a good time. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been on like a proper tour in a proper tool

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<v Speaker 1>in like three years, and it was like such a

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<v Speaker 1>fun kind of I mean, I don't know, our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are the best, so and and and we get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just talking on our computers most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like, oh yeah, people listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>show and it's fun and everyone is so sweet, and

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<v Speaker 1>so everyone who came, thank you so much. For everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't come because they don't live in those four CDs,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be doing more shows soon, so relax. Getting

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<v Speaker 1>the lifeboat to chill. Carpathia is on the way. That's us. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we have big time Carpathia vibes. Do you think I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think so. Maybe we're not the biggest boat

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, but we come to the rescue. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get your home, babe. You're gonna be so thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>when we show up, even if we weren't the first choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's so depressing if you're like the

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<v Speaker 1>Carpathia in a relationship floppy seconds. Wow, but the Carpathia,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I think what a deep cut Titanic

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<v Speaker 1>joke that was. But that's what the listeners are here for. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're about to hear Jamie and I chat about

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<v Speaker 1>some Titanic movie history, some current events as they relate

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<v Speaker 1>to the movie Titanic, things like that, some trivia we've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of before. And then VHS type number two

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<v Speaker 1>is a very long Caitlin's famous recap plus Jamie's fun

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<v Speaker 1>facts corner. Yes, I watched every every single available commentary

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<v Speaker 1>track for Titanic. It took so many hours. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen to the episode because my therapist was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you did what until four in the morning, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so please please support my mental illness. So please validate

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<v Speaker 1>us by listening to both VHS tape episodes this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>next and without much further ado, well, here's VHS tape

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<v Speaker 1>number one. You know, Caitlin, I think you may get

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<v Speaker 1>your headlines. Caitlin tape one Do Do Do Do Do

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<v Speaker 1>Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Nice. Sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing an impression of someone hearing that song for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time and you're just absolutely blown away. That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's very like dad energy to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the audience for Titanic and hearing the intro to

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<v Speaker 1>that song and just nodding approvingly and being like nice, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful music. Sometimes I feel like dad's I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is dad, and I'm generalizing, but sometimes dads just need

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<v Speaker 1>to like vocalize that they're alive and have registered something

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. It's like when they slap concrete walls

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yeah, it's pretty that's pretty strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, can we keep walking? Like can we please

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<v Speaker 1>stop hitting surfaces and observing noises quite so actively? If

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<v Speaker 1>that's not your dad, maybe you've met this dad. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a celebration of that dad. But that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when the when when dad's I mean, and and in

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<v Speaker 1>this this fictional dad I just made up. He went

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<v Speaker 1>to Titanic in theaters, so how bad could he be? He? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he went twice. He went twice. Yeah, because this fictional

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<v Speaker 1>anecdote takes place in for he's seeing it again and

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<v Speaker 1>he's it's like but it's like seeing it for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. So he's going nice. Oh my gosh, So

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<v Speaker 1>let's do the main feet episode two, and we're already

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<v Speaker 1>acting out what if this becomes another Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>what movie were we trying to talk about for your birthday?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we just oh, it was Shape of Water. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to get off track because I haven't shown you. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know I sent you a picture of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure, yes, But I received this in the

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<v Speaker 1>mail the other day. Listeners, this is an audio medium.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you're looking at, look at this guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's an action figure of the sexy fish from

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<v Speaker 1>the Shape of Water. He comes with eggs. Okay, check

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<v Speaker 1>that ship out. He comes with eggs and an angrier

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<v Speaker 1>face in case you want to in case you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be mad, in case he's hungry for a cat,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh when he comes with swimmy feet in case

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to take him in the bath. Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wonderful. I really cherished and that and I genuinely.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't chosen a display place for him yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might just have him kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me where I work all day. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just I'm just that's what I've been doing so far,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel good about it. That's beautiful. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Um So, this is a reference to if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a matron, First of all, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing together? Secondly, one time Jamie and I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>record an episode on the fish of Water. The fish

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<v Speaker 1>of water tee my brain, um, the shape of water,

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<v Speaker 1>and we went off the rails because we started talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the three eleven crews or something like that. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't get back into it. But I was like, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming up, but okay, look not today. So we

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<v Speaker 1>released this very chaotic episode on the Matreon. But today

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<v Speaker 1>we are focused because it's another Titanic episode. Or is

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<v Speaker 1>this our seventh Titanic episode? I believe so? Yes, which

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<v Speaker 1>I can? I may, I may pitch a title for

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. Oh of course, Titanic seven seven seven. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it. Okay, I guess we should introduce

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Yes we should. This is not your average

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<v Speaker 1>episode listeners, just so you know it's turbo, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a yes. Hello. My name is Caitlin Dronte, my name

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<v Speaker 1>is Jamie Loftus, and this is the Bettel Cast. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a movie podcast that takes a look at your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite movies or not using an intersectional feminist lens on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular day. Today we're looking at the same movie

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<v Speaker 1>that we both like for the seventh time from a

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<v Speaker 1>different angle. Now, this is film criticism at its highest level,

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<v Speaker 1>because it no longer quite makes sense, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of just like like many good movies, it's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a vibe and you either get it or you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sort of what a Beckdel Cast Titanic episode is like.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're back and we actually have like normally we

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<v Speaker 1>would release our Titanic episode in April to line up

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<v Speaker 1>with uh. Rather morbidly, it's occurred to me the past

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, the thinking of the ship because it

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<v Speaker 1>is an actual event that took place, which not everybody knows,

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<v Speaker 1>which is shocking, but to line up with the sinking

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<v Speaker 1>of the ship and my dad's birthday. Um, however, this

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<v Speaker 1>year you're wondering why now why now? Well, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>we recently, we as a culture recently observed the anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>of Titanic, which came out in wait what, well, guess

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<v Speaker 1>what else came out twenty five years after Titanic. Avatar too,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can feel whatever way about that that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to. The point is the Titanic rerelease happened Valentine's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe by the time our our treasured listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are hearing this up said, will we have been together

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<v Speaker 1>in imax? I believe or is it just shy? It

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<v Speaker 1>will be within a day or two, if not the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not totally sure, because we're releasing this episode a

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<v Speaker 1>few days after the re release of Titanic in theaters.

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<v Speaker 1>So hot, so horny, yeah, freaking weight, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>both have gone probably twenty times by the time you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this. Yeah, well probably, But when you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's sometime in February, it's safe to say that

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<v Speaker 1>one of us is a Titanic. I I realized it

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<v Speaker 1>was possible for me to see it in three different states,

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<v Speaker 1>and I may end up doing that. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the episode is coming out now. We will not be

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<v Speaker 1>observing Titanic in April, as we normally do, But next

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<v Speaker 1>year we're back on schedule. It was an emergency though,

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<v Speaker 1>and so um. But this year we try to mix

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<v Speaker 1>it up in our Titanic episodes every single time. We

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<v Speaker 1>do one all six times, and I guess, should we Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's do a little recap of what we've done

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, shall we? Or should we do a

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<v Speaker 1>quick like should we stick to the betel cast and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, what's our history with the movie Titanic? Really quick? Oh? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it necessary? Like this might be someone's first episode

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't know us at always my fear, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my fear. Really, you go first, you don't buy jump

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<v Speaker 1>right right? Um? That's my perfect when you know a

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<v Speaker 1>DiCaprio in distress compression, flawless. My history was Titanic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the best movie in the whole world. I love it

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<v Speaker 1>so much. It was too young to see it in theaters,

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<v Speaker 1>brag did end up seeing it on the two VHS

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<v Speaker 1>compilation the Iconic. Watched it with my cousin similar to you,

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin spoiler, practically every day for stretches of time. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was in middle school, I got self conscious about

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<v Speaker 1>how much I loved the movie Titanic, and so then

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<v Speaker 1>I masked it by getting really into the boat Titanic.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's not that I want to kiss,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that I love the ship carpentry Um, which is

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<v Speaker 1>an iconic lie that everyone definitely believed. However, to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>that lie, I did learn a lot about the historic event.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched A Night to Remember, I read A Night

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<v Speaker 1>to Remember, whatever, read the Dear America series, all the

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic expanded universe that felt history adjacent. I also read,

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<v Speaker 1>while still frantically wanting to kiss everyone in the cast

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<v Speaker 1>of Titanic. I used to sit on my porch roof

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<v Speaker 1>every year from April four pm April fift at twenty am.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents did not like this, but they just realized

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<v Speaker 1>that it would be easier to let me do it

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<v Speaker 1>than to tell me I couldn't. And they were like, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many like clear this is not one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are so many like clear instances of like

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness. I showed as a child that my parents

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<v Speaker 1>were just like, um, she's a very precocious girl, like

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<v Speaker 1>every single thing, but so like I had speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>that my child O c D. I had a binder

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<v Speaker 1>full of facts I had learned about the Titanic that

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<v Speaker 1>I just sort of had, And when I learned a

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<v Speaker 1>new one, well, you know, I would write it down

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<v Speaker 1>and I put it right next to my series of

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunate events facts binder that I also had, because I

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<v Speaker 1>just had a lot of binders full of information that

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<v Speaker 1>we're also written in this like code I had come

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<v Speaker 1>up with. So they are it's giving serial killer. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little it was a little frightening um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that with empathy for my younger self,

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<v Speaker 1>but also when I look at these notebooks I still

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<v Speaker 1>have them, I I do. It's it's bone chilling to

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<v Speaker 1>look at them, because you're like, Wow, what adorable handwriting

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<v Speaker 1>that is, Like this could be a threat, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>r UM used to go to Titanic the exhibit and

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando every time my family would go to Orlando. I've

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<v Speaker 1>since been in Vegas. I missed it when it was here.

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen all the re releases as they came out,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have seen it in theaters before, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see it again. I even dabbled into

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get into Avatar for a long time because

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to just support Jim. Um. Also, my nickname

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<v Speaker 1>was Jim in college because I thought James Cameron was

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<v Speaker 1>so cool Um, And I still kind of like when

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<v Speaker 1>people call me Jim. It makes I know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a weird, little like masculine power itch that

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<v Speaker 1>I get when someone hits me with the gym. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly right, and I'm gonna and I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you an instruction there. I have an inner James Cameron

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm trying to We all need to kill the

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<v Speaker 1>landlord in our head and the James Cameron in our head.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this movie so much. It's the perfect movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a part for Billy's ane in the show

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<v Speaker 1>that never came out like it just the list goes on, Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your history with the movie Titanic? Oh? My goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>I also deeply, deeply love this movie. I've pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>cultivated an entire personality around loving this movie and Paddington's

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<v Speaker 1>are the kind of two Oh is there a reference

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<v Speaker 1>to Titanic or Paddington's Better Alert Caitlin, because these two

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<v Speaker 1>movies are my entire personality, um, like as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>receives five hundred j pegs of Alpha Molina a day,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where I'm like, I also, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a heart, I have a life, I've interests, I've read

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<v Speaker 1>a book stop um. But also I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>have a theory that truly like, if you're a public

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<v Speaker 1>figure in any way, shape or form, people cannot like

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<v Speaker 1>retain more than three things about you. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like, I don't feel good or bad

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but it means I'm going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of a hot dog every single day till I die.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like it's much the same with you

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic and Paddington, and sometimes we get some pretty good ship.

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<v Speaker 1>People send us good stuff. I'm not complaining keep sending it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I love this movie very much. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it for the first time in early it was around

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<v Speaker 1>eleven or twelve. I saw it in a a drive in

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<v Speaker 1>movie theater and I was like, well, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>peak of cinema. It's never getting better than this, And

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<v Speaker 1>you were right. I mean, I feel like you could

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<v Speaker 1>have to be disproven. It's true. People have gotten close,

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<v Speaker 1>people have made some good attempts, but this is really

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<v Speaker 1>the peak. And then my mom bought the two vhs

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<v Speaker 1>is for me later that year, and I spent every

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<v Speaker 1>day for an entire summer, often twice a day, watching

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<v Speaker 1>both vhs is and I've just never looked back. And

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<v Speaker 1>I watched this movie We've never let Go, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>never let go, and I would never let go. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched this movie once a month at least, sometimes more often.

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<v Speaker 1>I estimate that I've seen it well over a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty times. And that's honestly cool of me. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this recently. I think I'm closer to like

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<v Speaker 1>the hundred mark. Yeah, I probably like get good forty

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<v Speaker 1>viewings behind you, but I'm coming for you. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a few years on you, so that tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. There's time, there's time. Um. But yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>this is our now seventh episode on Normally, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a listener of the show, you know that we only

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<v Speaker 1>cover each movie once. But Titanic is special. Titanic is

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<v Speaker 1>the movie of dreams and it is it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break and then we will come

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<v Speaker 1>right back and we are back. Can we should we

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<v Speaker 1>go over? Kind of our our Titanic episodes that we've

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<v Speaker 1>done in the past, because we've done quite a few,

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel the need to, even though I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think she would be. She's upset, but like a partner,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trella was our first guest on Titanic episodes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we really came in pretty hot in

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<v Speaker 1>that episode. I just remember, I don't remember really anything

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<v Speaker 1>we said during the episode. I just remember a frenetic

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<v Speaker 1>energy that was coursing through the room in a building

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<v Speaker 1>that has since been demolished by the way, unfortunately, and

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<v Speaker 1>just catching a glint of panic and a partner's eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm being honest, a glint that said, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were just talking about Titanic. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know we were yelling about Titanic. Yeah. I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>did not adequately prepare her for what we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like on that episode. Well, also we didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair, we didn't fully know and we had

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<v Speaker 1>we'd never done it. And I think that the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we created a seismic kind of energy in that room,

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<v Speaker 1>it was impossible to know and that but but well

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<v Speaker 1>was for sure is that we really appreciated a partner

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<v Speaker 1>tolerating it, and that we had more to say than

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<v Speaker 1>could fit in the space of a single episode. That

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>was for sure, because that episode came out. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken in early ishen we've been early okay? Podcast started?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, okay, So flash forward about a year to

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<v Speaker 1>April fourteen. We released another Titanic episode on the Matreon.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't remember what we said on that one. I could

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<v Speaker 1>be anything. If I'm remembering correctly, that was literally just

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<v Speaker 1>like we didn't have enough time to say this and

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<v Speaker 1>we were scaring a partner. Um, here's all the extra

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.200
<v Speaker 1>thoughts that we had. I'm pretty sure that was basically

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<v Speaker 1>an addendum to the first installment. That makes sense. Flash

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<v Speaker 1>forward to February twenty nineteen. I don't know why that

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>date was important or like why we can. I guess

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like close to Valentine's Day, but kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>arbitrary date on our part, kind of chaotic of us. Interesting, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Titanic Colon Sunk and Drunk episode because

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<v Speaker 1>one of our worst, one of our worst, I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of our worst we've ever released maybe all the

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was definitely one of the worst ones

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever recorded. But thanks to the power of editing, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out okay, I think. I now that's an

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 1>episode I don't remember, like, not because it happened a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago, but because we were so drunk and

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.479
<v Speaker 1>crying on the sunken drunk one. I remember the feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of it. We did we, I remember that we were in.

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<v Speaker 1>That was back when we used to record all of

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<v Speaker 1>our Matrion episodes in your bed. Yeah, so we would

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>have been getting drunk in your bed. Yes, which, look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's happened before, it will happen again. But that was Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a wild one. That was a wow. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't have I I remember nothing. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>take me to court over it. Later that month, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, because we've dedicated an entire month to Titanic

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>episodes on the Matron. So February we released our Titanic

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>audio commentary. See. I think we had to do it

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>in two parts because it was so long. This is

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<v Speaker 1>I think the peak of our Titanic content, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't listened, this is I guess a long ad

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<v Speaker 1>for our Matron. But people to this day still still

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>use that commentary track Every once in a while. I

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>heard they're like, guess what I did last night, and

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I feel like I should mail them something.

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I should mail everyone who's ever listened

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to that in edible arrangement. Um, for sure, i'd cry

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<v Speaker 1>a lot I remember that. Yes. So those were the

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<v Speaker 1>two episodes from February nineteen. Yes, now we move along

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>to On September, we released the YouTube link of the

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<v Speaker 1>live reading that we did of the script. Yeah, some

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>of the greats, some of the great Yes, indeed, highly

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>recommend you gotta check it out. Then on April fourte

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<v Speaker 1>so we're back on track as far as the day goes,

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<v Speaker 1>we released something called Another Titanic Episode col Edition. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was that was what exactly what if? That was?

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<v Speaker 1>What did we do? Well? That was? That was that

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>was Tentacles. That was when we found was it not?

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<v Speaker 1>That was when we found what is the name of

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<v Speaker 1>We found an Italian animated rip off of It's a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of I think an American tale Titanic and then

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<v Speaker 1>what else a little bit of Little Mermaid thrown in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not super because basically, if you haven't heard

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.959
<v Speaker 1>of that movie, it's about it's it's it's lightly revised

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>history in which everyone on the Titanic lives due to

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a gigantic depressed to Puss named tentacles holding the Titanic

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>together with his gigantic meaty tentacles while almost crying, and

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>then he dies, and then he dies, and James Cameron

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>he wishes it wasn't heard from for many years, you wish.

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's very interesting that after that that movie

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>came out, James Cameron was not heard from for many

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>years because he was so jealous. He he literally was

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.719
<v Speaker 1>so embarrassed that he didn't think of that that he

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>moved to New Zealand. Yeah, Avatar was not supposed to

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>take place in New Zealand, but he was like, I

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>will never recover from this great chance. I would, Oh

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>my god, how much money would you pay to watch

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>James Cameron watch that movie? Every cent? I had? Wow,

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I I would, I would dump. I would really, I

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>would really make a big financial mistake for that, because

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like he seems like he's a little

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 1>he's he's he's got a reputation of having a very

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 1>short fuse, which I think is scary in some cases,

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>but in this case, Oh what I love to see

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>him flip a table over this, it would be a treat.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>This is also on this episode when we I get

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I give a brief overview of Titanic two, which is

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the disaster movie that is really bad but fun to

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>watch because of how bad it is. We also talk

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>about The six which is a documentary that we still

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it's still not widely available from what I've been able to. Yeah. Um,

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's a documentary about the six Chinese survivors who

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>were on the Titanic, who were able to escape the shipwreck.

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But then we're vilified by the press and then we're

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>refused entry to the US, and these people were largely

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>erased from the history books and just like the historical

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and popular narratives about Yeah, yes, I would still really

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>like to see that. Yeah, I've never I mean, if listeners,

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>if you have a way of watching it, we would

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>really like to see it. Indeed, and the Titanic six

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>six six would have been last year, if I'm remembering correctly. Okay, okay, Jamie,

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>is there another one? No? No, we never actually talked

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>about Titanic six six six, the full movie. We only

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about the trailer and then you and I watched

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it together. We watched the movie, but what for fun?

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>For fun made the best time. We had an absolute blast,

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but there is no episode dedicated. I also had this thought.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought we had covered Titanic six six six on

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>an episode, but we did not yet do that. I'm

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of beside myself at that news. I was like,

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>my my memory has been like really bad lately. But

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, surely I'm not wrong about this, and

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>yet both our brains have cratered in the past year

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>in a way that has been alarming for both of us.

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>But but I do, okay, I mean, I guess before

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>we get into what we're covering this year in preparation,

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think I did more thorough preparation for this

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>episode than I have in the last at least last year.

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I spent a good nine hours. I watched Titanic twice,

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and then I watched three additional hours of featurettes, ETCETERA

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>very sick behavior. But it occurred to me in sort

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>of gathering that information, truly, how much we still have

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>we if we have not talking about talking talked about

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Titanic six six six, we have never covered a night

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>to remember, we've never covered the Catherine's Ada Jones mini

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>series never covered Titanic the musical. There there is still

0:30:54.040 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>a wealth of Titanic content that somehow we have not

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>yet put to wax on on this damn show. And

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>so listeners, if you hate this, we've got some bad news.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>We're like kind of only cracking the surface. Um, you

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>might even call it the tip of the iceberg. Oh well, well,

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>well that would have been the obvious thing to say,

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and I just it just whipped past my head. Um

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>all right. So but but this this year, we have

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things on the agenda. But Kaylie and

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I kind of found a way to I I would say,

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of combine our our superpowers in order to create

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a new, robust and thrilling Titanic episode for you this year.

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>So true, so very true. Shall we start with the poster? Yes? Yes,

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>So before we get to well can we can we

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>just like this year, we're doing something we've never done

0:31:55.800 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of Titanic before, which is the mega recap. Yes. So

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're twenty six minutes into this episode thinking okay,

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>but what are they going to talk about? It's the

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>longest and most detailed and elaborate recap I've ever written,

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's Titanic. What was I gonna do? And I

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I know you were working on that for quite some time. Also,

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.479
<v Speaker 1>I to try and an attempt to kind of compliment that,

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>because we've talked a lot about various myths and bits

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and bobs surrounding Titanic over the years. I figured this year,

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>as you recap, I watched two commentary tracks for this movie.

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why I watched Titanic twice yesterday. The first one

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>was with of course Mr Jim, of course alone, no one.

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>The second track has no less than like twelve people

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>on it. It's interesting because they're not all in the

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>same room. I think that twelve people recorded commentaries and

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>then they edited in the most interesting bits to make

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a super commentary, which was actually pretty cool. It's like

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the two main producers who are m Ray Sancini and

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>John Landau. It's Kate Winslet, It's Gloria Stewart, It's Francis Fisher,

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>It's Billy Zane, it's Kathy bates Um. It's basically everyone

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.479
<v Speaker 1>except for Leo. And then it's also some like people

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that you don't usually hear from on commentary trucks you've

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>got some stuff from James Horner, the composer, You've got

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>some stuff from the cinematographer. You even got some fun

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff from the fully artist, like a very kind of fun, comprehensive.

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel, I feel as if I live, laugh, learned

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit beautiful, And so I guess I'll just

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>be piping in. But first we have some Yeah, we

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>we We've got some business. We've got some updates to

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to give you. Indeed, let's take another quick break and

0:33:54.200 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>then we'll be back for more. And we are back.

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<v Speaker 1>So with the re release in theaters of Titanic, a

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>new poster was designed. I don't know who was behind

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the designing of this poster, but as many people have

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>already pointed out, it's a little weird. Yes, so it's rose.

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like a composite of an existing

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Titanic poster that like came out in the initial theatrical run.

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>But some weird choices were made, maybe most notably with

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Kate Winslet's hair. It seems like a composite of Kate

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Winslet's head, Yes, for sure, because on one half of

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>her hair she has a curly updo, and then on

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the other side her like soft loose waves are hanging

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>down and it doesn't make any sense. She's facing to

0:34:56.400 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the left behind her and like clutching her is jack Um,

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>He's clinging to her for dear life. Also her body

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>so like the placement and proportion of her arms and

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 1>her torso are very strange, and it looks like her

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>head is on backwards kind of something that's not right.

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even really place what was not quite right.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I just it gave me like it felt like watching

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>the Polar Express kind of looking at this poster where

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, that's not quite how people are. It's

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>just not quite people really not you know. Jack and

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Rose also look very just like super imposed together, because

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>like they're hugging or like he's like clutching her, but

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you can tell that they're not that these are just

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>like two images of these people that were just kind

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of like glued together in photoshop. And it looks really bad,

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Like the lighting is strange, like the shadows are like

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't match up at all. It looks yeah, and

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>then here's me being very nitpicky. So Jack is shown

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>with handcuffs on his wrist, which means that this is

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>him from the night the ship sinks. On the other hand,

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken, Rose is wearing the outfit she

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 1>wore the night that she and Jack met, which would

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>have been the iconic reat days before the ship sinks. Right,

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Because we used to have an issue with where is April,

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>we've since figured out where a The poster I will say,

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>looks like shit, it looks pretty bad. It looks pretty bad.

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>But I will say, but I also think even though

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the original movie poster for Titanic is so iconic, I

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>have generally preferred fan made posters, the one that you

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>have hanging in your kitchen, Kalin, I like much better

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>than any of the Theatrically. That said, if you work

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>in a movie theater and you have access to the

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>rerelease posters, I will like, I will Bansheese of inn

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>a share and mail you my finger like whatever if

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>if that's what you want. If you don't want that,

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I won't do it. Which so it's kind of a

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>reverse no, actually he didn't want Yeah, only if you

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>want it. Colin Farrell did not want those fingers, So

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a reversal of It's a it's a

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>requested finger It's not as it would be an interesting

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>movie to cover on this show. It would, I think. Also,

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you offering to chop off your fingers and mail them

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 1>to someone in exchange for a poster that you can

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>probably very easily purchase somewhere. No, no, no, it's it's okay, No,

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>this is this is good, this is good for us. UM.

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I saw a tweet. Every time I say I saw

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 1>a tweet, I'm like, okay, I'm literally I'm old Rose,

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm five hundred years old. But I saw a tweet

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>that said, like when Harry met Sally, women and men

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>can't be friends. Benche'es of innitiary Ino, men can't be friends.

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>That's good. So yeah, I I will at the posters

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>like freaky, we'll we'll post it on our Instagram if

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you're interested in checking it out. And then there's one other. Um.

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I was honestly kind of surprised that

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't more Titanic production news that came out in

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>this last year, because James Cameron was like going on

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>his first press tour in years for Avatar to Weekly

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Weekly Water and and but Titanic, they really only came

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>up in this in this one story, and it does

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>concern the door. I will say there are few things

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that I'm less interest like, I'm so bored when people

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>talk when people talk about the door, I tune out,

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I shut my brain off. I'm so sick of hearing

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>about it. I'm really glad we're on the same page

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:13.760
<v Speaker 1>about this. I have always from the minute I watched

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>this movie for the first time as a twelve year old,

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's not about the size of the door. Sure,

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe he could have fit from a surface area standpoint.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 1>It's about the bouency. And that brings us to this

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>news story. Well, and then the other thing it tells

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>me before we get into this, right the other when

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you tell me I have questions about the door and Titanic,

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you're telling me that you have not watched every single

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>deleted scene. And I don't like you, I don't respect you.

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>It's literally like, even if it were an interesting thing

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to say, which it isn't. Um if you watch the

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>deleted scenes, there is a very like it made sense

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that they got rid of the scene and it adds nothing,

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>But there is like a little exchange that addresses he

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>tries to get up. Is like, there, it's addressed. It's

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>not gonna work. The buoyancy is not there. It's even

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>addressed in the text, like there's a there's a moment

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>where like they both try to get on the door

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>flips over. It's clear to both of them that they

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>cannot both be on the door. Jack is like, all right,

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>this is it for me. I'm gonna let her get

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>on the door to increase her chance of survival. And

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't If there's one thing Jack Dawson knows, it's

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 1>about things in ice water. It's an established element of

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>his character. They brought it up. But but but Jim,

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, people have been talking from Jim's ear off

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>about this for decades, and so he had something to say.

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>He commissioned a study. This is a really fun way

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.720
<v Speaker 1>to know that you just have too much money. Someone

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>needs to rob him. If he had time and money

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:00.439
<v Speaker 1>to do this. But yes, he was like, let's get

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>some forensic analysts on the case. And so I'm gonna

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>um kind of site this. This came up in a

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>few different publications. There was a Washington Post piece about this,

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>there was a piece in Deadline, There was a piece

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>on NPR, like major publications were reporting on this depressing.

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>But basically, he got really sick of everyone being like

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Jack could have fit on the door at the end,

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 1>So he commissioned this study where he quote took two

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.439
<v Speaker 1>stunt people who were the same body mass of Kate

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and Leo and put sensors all over them and inside them. Okay,

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and we put them in I watch that. He's like,

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>let me not get more specific about where did they

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>eat them? Was it? And we can still stop there?

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Did they put little sensors in there? But who can

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>say I would do that for the right price. Give

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>someone my fingers that I've chopped up off to be

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.879
<v Speaker 1>able to do that. Yeah, I guess I just gave

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>away that I would do a lot of things with

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:21.399
<v Speaker 1>my body that you aren't necessary. Okay. So we put

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>sensors all over them and inside them, and we put

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 1>them in ice water, and we tested to see whether

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>they could have survived through a variety of methods, and

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the answer was there was no way they both could

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>have survived. Only one could survive. Unquote. There was already

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a MythBusters episode about this. It came to the same conclusion,

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>like I thought, the MythBusters was like. The MythBusters was like, Oh,

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>if they had tied Roses life jacket to the door,

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>it could have been more floaty and then they both

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 1>could have been on it. Oh well, I if that's

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 1>what they said. Oh yeah, what fucking losers that they

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't think to do that when they were sinking on

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the Titanic. Shut the hell up, MythBusters, bust your ass

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>right open. This is so I mean, I guess I'm

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>glad that hopefully this means people can stop talking about it,

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>although we I think we are very often discussed the

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>second most annoying thing to talk about with Titanic. But

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>we're right, and that's debating about the end. But let's

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 1>save that for the recap because I have a little

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>bit of commentary things I've unearthed, okay, that I'm looking

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 1>forward to sharing interesting. I think commissioning the door study

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 1>is objectively funny. It's really funny. What a gigantic waste

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>of time, um and and money to pay someone to

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>put a sensor in there, but to prove that the

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>movie that you wrote, Uh technically, but I do I will,

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>like I almost listen to a third Titanic commentary and

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>then I had to I would have had to go

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to the hospital or something like. I couldn't have watched

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the third But next year or in a future viewing,

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>there is a I think it's like it wasn't like

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not official from Titanic, inc. But there is a

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 1>historian commentary track for Titanic, So historians are commenting on

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the movie to like talk about it's like historical accuracies

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>or inaccuracies exactly interesting, which I would be interested in

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>listening to. It's on I mean, and also if you're

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>interested in listening to the commentaries, they're they're both just

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like on YouTube. I just like sinked it with the

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>movie on YouTube. All right? Is that is that all

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>of our all our business? Have we ever I mean

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>this I I was going to just sort of interrupt

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the recap at some point, but have we ever fully

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>discussed the chowder incident? I don't think in a lot

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>of detail. And there was a piece on Variety that

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>came out about them on than a half ago at

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the time of this episode's release. That brings up the

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>So for anyone who doesn't know on the set of Titanic,

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>when they were filming in Nova Scotia, which is where

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the scenes on The Kell Dish take place when like

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Bill Paxton and Old Rose are talking about the diamond,

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the framing device scenes. Someone drugged the

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.399
<v Speaker 1>clam chowder that was like the cast and crew meal

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that night with PCP and a bunch of people ate

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>it and they were all tripping balls, including James Cameron

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and many other members of the crew. And then there's

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>like this wild story about them at the hospital because

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>they were in this like tiny hospital in Nova Scotia,

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, this like these Hollywood

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>weirdos like PCP out of their fucking skulls running back

0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and forth between hospital rooms. The poor like staff at

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the hospital are desperately trying to keep people apart, but

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>they're like he he, like I can smell of colors,

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and like all the ship and my favorite element there

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>there is at least one. My friend wrote a pilot

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>about this, which I think is the best idea of

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>all time. And then apparently it was investigated by Halifax

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Police for over two and a half years, which is uh.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I think a cab includes whatever the funk that is

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>um because the case is still closed I mean it

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>was closed due to lack of suspects, so whoever it

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 1>was got away. They never solved the case, No, because

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>their cops, So of course they wasted a ton of

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>state money and never figured out who with the PCP

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and the chowder. Also, no one can even agree with

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>what the chowder was. Some people say Muscle Paxton says

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it was clams, the police report says it was lobster.

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 1>What even was there? Bad Detective Work talked about him

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>James Cameron, of course, being the way that he appears

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to be, it feels certain that he knows who did it.

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh he said this to Vanity Fair, not to Vanity Fair.

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Very Fair quoted him, James, I don't have a good

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>James Cameron impression. He doesn't really have like a distinct

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>sounding voice, So you can't really you can't do like

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a Michael Bay like like. Anyways, we had fired a

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>crew member the day before because they were creating trouble

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 1>with the caterers, whatever that means. So we believe the

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>poisoning was this idiot's plan to get back at the caterers, whom,

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of course we promptly fired the next day. So it worked.

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Unquote Wow, I don't know. I mean, James Karen Marin

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 1>did have the PCP. Glorious Stewart was on set that day.

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Fortunately she did not get the PC. Yeah, but apparently

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 1>there's like all these In the commentary, Bill Paxton, I

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 1>think really seems to delight in telling this story where

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>at some point there was a point where one of

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the eight, like when James Cameron was realizing everyone was

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 1>on PCP, he was like, I'm pissed and he just

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 1>like stormed away. Did not make sure people wrote he

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>just but I mean, to be fair, he was on PCP,

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>but he stormed away. He bails immediately. Then one of

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the A d s is in the cafeteria and it's

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>like good crew over here, bad crew over here, trying

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to like figure out who's on PCP and who isn't.

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>And so people who are definitely sure they're on PCP

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>get to one side of the room, people who are

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:29.879
<v Speaker 1>like I'm definitely not on PCP, or on the other

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 1>side of the room, and then there's some people in

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the middle they're like, I'm not sure, including including And

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 1>this is a bizarre connection. But like I always kind

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of forget and I feel like it's not fair from

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a crediting standpoint, but like how there's like one credited

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>cinematographer on Titanic, but there's a number of cinematographers who work.

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 1>And the cinematographer working on the Kelly dish was Zoe

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Deschanelle's father, Caleb de Chanelle, A moment in history. Zoe

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Deschanelle's dad was on PCP that day and Bill Paxson said,

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>some people were laughing, some people were crying, some people

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>were throwing up. One minute I felt okay. The next minute,

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I felt so goddamn anxious. I wanted to breathe in

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a paperbag. Cameron was feeling the same way. Eventually, we

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>all got put in these cubicles with the curtains around us,

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 1>but no one wanted to stay in their cubicles. Everyone

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>was out in the aisles and jumping into other people's cubicles.

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>People had a lot of energy somewhere in wheelchairs flying

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>down the hallways. I mean everyone was high. Um, so

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>it just turned into a wild night. And James Cameron's

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>takeaway was because I like, I know that he is

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:46.720
<v Speaker 1>no like whatever has a reputation for being tyrannical on set,

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>not being a fun guy to work for, and this

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was like the only time at this entire shoot on

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the Calder's that he had given them a lunch break

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and this happened, and I think he was just like, well,

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I took away from this is no more lunch. That's illegal.

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure to to not look we Yeah, if Oshow

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>wants to get involved, by all means, someone should make

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>sure James Cameron is giving his crew lunch. But I

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>just I feel like the even though the PCP story

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>was like reported on since it happened, like it the

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>first story about it was in Entertainment Weekly, but it's

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>just such a good story that people love to talk

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 1>about it, and they're right to. Yeah, the Variety piece,

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I had any new information. It was

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>just like, hey, it's December two, Titanics being rereleased in

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>theaters some time of years, so remember about that PCP story,

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>PCP chowder. I mean, so much of the production of

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this movie is like fascinating and great, but that's that's

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 1>definitely up there. Yeah, all right, shall we? Yes? I

0:50:56.160 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>have a couple just updates Titanic related up to it's

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>before we get into the recap, as far as like

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>things I've seen or done, and here they are. I

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>went to go see Titanique. Oh yes, in New York City.

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Ever heard of it? I have, and I've heard of Titanique,

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>but tell the people, Oh my gosh. It is a

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 1>musical parody of James Cameron's Titanic, as told from the

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:26.439
<v Speaker 1>point of view of Selene dion as if she were

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a passenger on the Titanic in nineteen twelve and was

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with Jack and Rose and Ruth and fabritching

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 1>all the characters. So it's very funny. There's great songs,

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:42.879
<v Speaker 1>it's great fun and I love it. So if you

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>live in New York or you get a chance to visit,

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>check out Titanique The Tanique. I also saw a show

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:56.360
<v Speaker 1>called Never Let Go. I saw this at the Edinburgh

0:51:56.440 --> 0:52:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Fringe Festival last year. It is a solo show by

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Michael Kinnon where he recreates the movie Titanic by himself

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>playing all of the characters. Unbelievable. I love it. So

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw the show and a listener alerted me to

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the show in the first place, So thank you for

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 1>letting me know about it, and so I knew to

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 1>like Check it out when I was in Edinburgh. I

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>saw I loved it. I messaged Michael after the show

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and demanded that he be my friend. I was just like, hey,

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm also an l A based performer who loves Titanic

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and we should be best friends. And then he wrote

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>back and he's like, yeah, let's get a coffee or

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 1>drink or something. And then we did and now we're friends.

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I love it that Titanic really genuinely does bring people together.

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.879
<v Speaker 1>It's just a fact. I'm trying to remember the name

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of the one man Titanic show that I do. Remember

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>when I told you like that I had done like

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 1>a show in Boston right after a man's one man

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>show about Titanic. Kind of I'll find it someday, I know.

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I talked about it in one of our five episodes

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 1>on Titanicum. And then you went to the l A exhibition,

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 1>to the the one that like travels around. Yes, I

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>went to the Titanic exhibition in l A. It was

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>great fun. I also got another Titanic tattoo or a tattoonic. Yes.

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Ash Valentine, the tattoo artist. It's like

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a VHS tape that says Titanic Part two on it,

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>because that's your Titanic. We were talking about this last week.

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I'm a part Water. Yes. Oh,

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and shout out to that conversation, which was on Queer Quadrant,

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:54.279
<v Speaker 1>a podcast with hosts Jordan's and Brooke. We guested on

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 1>their episode about Titanic. It was so much fun, so

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 1>much fun. We talked about quit your undertones in Titanic,

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:03.879
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the queer fan base, just all kinds

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Um So, listeners of the Battel Cast check

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>out Queer Quadrant. Well link them, Yeah, and there you

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 1>have it. That concludes VHS tape number one. Jamie, I

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:22.319
<v Speaker 1>believe you may get your headlines. Oh, I've got a

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 1>feeling I will, Caitlin, I've got a feeling I will

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 1>cut to Billy Zane Piste in the doorway. But listeners,

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you won't be hearing that until next week when we

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>begin VHS Tape two. I feel thrilled. I'm a tape

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>one head, so I hope you enjoyed tape one. Caitlin's

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a tape two head. You're gonna love tape to It's

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a blast. So throw this podcast episode. In

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>those did you ever have one of those like tape rewinders?

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 1>We never did. We did not. Sorry to flex ye brag, okay, sorry,

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you were a millionaires and we had a tape rewinder.

0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't I think that we got the tape

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<v Speaker 1>to these children less? Let's just swap them out and then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get it done. Short, short, there's an investment

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the world's worst movie that we certainly did not

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