1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. It 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: is super great because we have another disgraced member of 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles City Council going to federal prison for 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: crimes he committed when he was an LA County supervisor. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: This guy has been dogging us for twenty four years 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: and finally, finally there is vengeance. He was a corrupt 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: hack after all. Yeah, we're talking about Mrt. Mark Ridley 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Hyphen Thomas has been found guilty. The fedsman, they know 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: what they're doing. And they got the convictions against the 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: other council members too. Who's a weez are in Mitch 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Englander and now they got Ridley Thomas. This was for 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: his work on the LA County Board of Supervisors. But 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: they're all they're all frauds. They didn't get them, didn't 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: conect him on every count, but enough it was like 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: nineteen charges, but they got him on accounts of bribery, conspiracy, 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: the old Honest Services mail fraud, and four counts of 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 1: Honest Services wire You dumped the nineteen charges on the jury. 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 1: They're gonna think, man, he's got to be guilty of something. 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: I get seven. That's a pretty good haul there. That 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: is seven convictions, seven federal felony convictions. What are we 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: looking at? You think how many years or possibly will 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: be sentenced until August. That's the sentencings. I don't know. 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: He's appealing this, and I'm sure during his appeal he'll want, 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: you know, every every favor given him. This is just 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: his nature. He is the most pompous blowhard. He is 27 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: almost like a cartoon version of a politician. Hey, somebody 28 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: closed my door. Your door? Yeah, the during the bathroom. 29 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: The door in the studio sticks open. This is a 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: new thing. I was there two months ago and it 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: was stuck, so it's not that new. I said that 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: to you. I got up several times to close it 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: because I can hear people in the hallway. Yeah yeah, 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: they get that busy little news or whatever it is. 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, I don't want to hang 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: out there. I don't want people overhearing what I'm saying here. No, no, no, 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: no no. This is a Jerry confidential code of silent 38 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: stuff we're doing. This is just between you and me, Okay, 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: it's not meant for everybody else. Um, So in case 40 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: you're not familiar about what we're talking about, this guy's 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: sixty eight years old. Now, Mark Ridley Thomas had a 42 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: dad son named Sebastian, who very young age got to 43 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: the legislature in Sacramento, the state Assembly because it's following 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: dad's footsteps, named Ridley Thomas. So the people who Bob 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: had vote in that district, they just see Ridley Thomas 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: go yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. They don't know that it's 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: Mark or or a Sebastian or you know, the family dog. 48 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: They don't know. They just see Ridley Thomas. He's uh. 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: They got a little bit of trouble with the Me 50 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: too movement, so they decided it was time to exit. 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Plus they claim he had health problems, but no, no, 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: it was it was it was a creep. There was 53 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: some sexual harassment going on. That's why he left. I mean, 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: that guy Fetterman had a freaking stroke and he can 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: barely think, and he didn't resign. You don't resign over 56 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: health problems unless you're about to die. I mean, look 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: at Feinstein, right, but Biden, nobody, nobody resigns office over 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: health problems. It was a sexual harassment. This began in 59 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen into twenty eighteen, and what Margaret Lee Thomas 60 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: thought of, along with Maryland Flynn, the then USC dean 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: of the School of Social Work, was a deal. Sebastian 62 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: would be admitted to USC, he'd get a full tuition scholarship, 63 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: a paid professorship, and he would also get a position 64 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: on a nonprofit. In exchange, Dad would push county proposals 65 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: to give more money to USC, specifically the School of 66 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: Social Work, I should say, because the School of Social 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Work was drowning financial financially, going under right financial ditch 68 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: because of bad decisions made by Marilyn Flynn, who was 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: the dean at the time of the USC Social Work program. 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: She was eighty three years old at the time of 71 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: these charges, and she was charged as well and played guilty. 72 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: But they had that's what we were saying about this case. 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: They had so much email, they had a paper trail 74 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: of all the communications as both sides laid out the 75 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: parameters of this dirty deal they'd agreed to. Yeah, that's 76 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: what did it. I don't believe Flynn testified. John just 77 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: said she did make a plea deal. She'll be sentenced 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: coming up in June, and but they just used the 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: paperwork of emails between the two where they went back 80 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: and forth in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen about how 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: to make this work for Ridley Thomas's son. And sometimes 82 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: when I read this, I say, lock her up, let's 83 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: go get Karen Bass. Yeah, because she he refers to 84 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: the Karen Baston, just like we did for Karen Bass. 85 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: This is in the La Times story. In an emails, Flynn, 86 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: who was the dean, expressed eagerness to enroll Sebastian, Ridley 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: Thomas's son, describing her plan to give him free tuition 88 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: and saying she did quote the same for Karen Bass, 89 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: full scholarship for our funds. In other words, Karen Baskets 90 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: a scholarship and then they get taxpayer funds at the 91 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: School of Social Work. And prosecutors found the email about 92 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: Bass a brazen example of Flynn's agenda using scholarships as 93 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: a means to secure government contracts, but they never charged Bass. 94 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why she's got special protection, but if 95 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: you have Marilyn Flynn saying it was the same deal 96 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: to Ridley Thomas as was to Karen Bass and Karen 97 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: Bass ought to be up on federal charges as well. 98 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: I you know, nobody wants to touch that. Nobody wants 99 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: to addressed that. I do give credit to the Al 100 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Saguando Times for at least mentioning it in several stories. 101 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: It's not a complete cover up. So this jury took 102 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: four days and a little bit of last Friday, so 103 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: four and a half days, clearly because they didn't convictim 104 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: of every charge. That's probably where they were slowing down. 105 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: That's all we can speculate. I think what really caused 106 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: trouble was that one hundred thousand dollars donation. That was 107 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: money that was given to USC, but it was funneled 108 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: through a charity and eventually made its way back to 109 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas's nonprofit. That really looked questionable. That was their 110 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: way of kind of laundering the money that was flowing 111 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: day because it went from Mark Ridley Thomas to USC 112 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: to an outside nonprofit back to Sebastian Ridley Thomas to 113 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: his nonprofit books. I think he's probably the onliest person 114 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: or something four entities touched this money. You look at 115 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: that and saying, wow, looks like somebody's money laundering here, 116 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: looks like somebody's trying to cover up a trail of 117 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: a payoff. Right Otherwise, why didn't Mark Ridley Thomas just 118 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: go over Sebastian's house or or to his room and say, hey, son, 119 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: here's one hundred thousand dollars to get you by Mark 120 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas. Wow. Here is the resume. The Los Angeles 121 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: City Council nineteen ninety one to two thousand and two. 122 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: It's almost twenty years. Then to the state assembling, the 123 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: State Senate, then to the Board of Supervisors in two 124 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. He served I guess his full time. 125 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: They until twenty twenty and he returned to the Los 126 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Angeles City Council. Holy mac is why we are This 127 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: is why listeners. Why do you hate all because they're hacks, 128 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: they're parasites, They hang around forever. You think that's the 129 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: first time he did something like this. Well, he has 130 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: a doctorate in social ethics from US City as well. 131 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: That's great. I didn't know that social ethics. Oh, it's 132 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: doctor Mark Ridley Thomas. I guess comes with the titles. 133 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: It's like it's doctor Joe Biden. Okay, it's doctor Mark 134 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas. What are you a doctor of social ethics. 135 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: Where are you going? I'm going to prison for bribery. 136 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I guess the classes didn't take somebody was not paying 137 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: attention in ethics class where they If we had the 138 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: FEDS investigating all of these what we think are corrupt 139 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: politicians in LA City and County government, we'd get a 140 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: lot more convictions because they're pretty good at this now. Yeah, right, 141 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: they taken down Jose's are Mitch England or Mark Ridley 142 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Thomas got to put everybody on trial. They find something 143 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: on every one of them. They dug up stuff on 144 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: the DWP. I'd forgotten about that one. Yeah. They've been 145 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: involved in a lot of corruption investigations in La more 146 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: than you can say for like the La County DA's office, 147 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: And of course we're not going to bother with them 148 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: anymore right now, or even the LA City attorneys. And 149 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: he's been a pain in the ass to us for 150 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: twenty four years because we once had him on the air. 151 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: He wanted to bring a pro football team to the 152 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: LA Coliseum and we said, the collegeseums in a crappy 153 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: neighborhood and people don't want to go there. You were 154 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: never going to get families to go to that neighborhood, 155 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: and he got so pissed off he hired a bunch 156 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: of protesters to stand outside the radio station and chant hey, hey, 157 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: ho hoo, John and Kenn have got to go. And 158 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: of course he got all over the TV and in 159 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: the newspapers and it was just just spite because we 160 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: pointed out the obvious that, yeah it was. And by 161 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: the way, if you notice, the NFL never came back 162 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: to the coliseum, did day Well they did. The Rams 163 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: were there for a while, but the Rams brief play. Yeah, 164 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: but it was. It was it was twenty yeah it was. 165 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: But they only came back because they were going to 166 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: go to Inglewood. They Yeah, the Colisee was the final 167 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: landing place. You'd never see the Rams again. No, no, 168 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: And this was in the late nineties when all this 169 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: was going on, and we didn't get an NFL team 170 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: for quite a while after that. They landed the Coliseum, 171 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: but it's not a great place. It was. The stadium 172 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: is as bad as the neighborhood. So I don't know, Yeah, 173 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: bad stadium, bad neighborhood. And that's why there was no 174 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: NFL football here for so many years. Now, all right. Well, 175 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: we'll have lots more on this during the show this 176 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: afternoon because we're taking a long victory lap. Oh Ridley Thomas, 177 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: I want some champagne or something. Boy, if I'd known 178 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: this was gonna happen today, I wod have brought something. 179 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: This is something to toast over, I know. And it's 180 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: like a couple of rare good pieces of news about 181 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: political hacks just in the last what six to nine 182 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: months to Mike Bonding being the other man. I was 183 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: thinking about that today. I know, the last time we 184 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: celebrated someone's political demise. All right, we got more coming up. 185 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere 186 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app. Oh god, and I so much 187 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: want to see him in an orange jumpsuit. You're listening 188 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: to John and Ken on demand from kf I AM 189 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: six forty. We're on from one until four on the radio. 190 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: After four o'clock we become a podcast. Same show. It's 191 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken on demand after four o'clock. All right, we 192 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: get the moistline coming back tomorrow. It's already here, so 193 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: you still have time to drop us some messages. Use 194 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app. The microphone ic or if you 195 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: want to dial up on the phone, just have a 196 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: clear signal place when you do this. Nothing watery from 197 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: the road one eight seven seven moist eighty six, one 198 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: eighty seven, seven six sixty four seven eight eighty six. Well, 199 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: we're going to continue to celebrate here on the John 200 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: and Ken Show. We opened, of course, with the conviction 201 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: of Mark Ridley Thomas in a federal case involving corruption 202 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: and the USC School of Social Work. We have talked 203 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: about that story for some time now. This jury took 204 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: over four days to decide, but he was found guilty 205 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: on most charges. He'll be sentenced in August. We'll have 206 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: an attorney on in the three o'clock hour. Ago more 207 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: in depth in the story. But that led us to 208 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: celebrate as we began the show. Somebody's trying to find 209 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: John some alcohol. I think, well, there should be some 210 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: celebratory champagne here. There should be that big bloated masses. Finally, 211 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: oh man, he is going to federal prison. Mark Ridley 212 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: Thomas bent over in federal prison. I hope they have 213 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: an extra, extra extra large orange shoot for him. It 214 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: might be Sometimes federal prisons are kind of light for 215 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: blue for white collar criminals. They're usually I don't know, 216 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think he's gonna be 217 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: put in there with the smugglers and dealers. They should 218 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: send him, Yeah, with the El Chapo or somebody, the 219 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: drug cartel guys, that's where he ought to go. That's 220 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: where he should be. Um And he'll appeal this, so 221 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't know he's gonna get sentenced to August. But 222 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: he appeals this again, I'm denying the appeal everybody. So 223 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: the other hack in trouble. And this is quite a 224 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: wild story. Uh. The name comes up from time to 225 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: time on the John and Ken Show. In fact, the 226 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: last time it came up was recently when we talked 227 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: about the San Diego County Board of Supervisors. We had 228 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: a guest on the show who's a member of the 229 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: Board of Supervisors who said, this person thinks he's going 230 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: to become the next Gavin Newsom. His ambitions are to 231 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: be the governor of the state of California. He is 232 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: a far left, woke hack by the name of Nathan 233 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: Nathan Fletcher, and he's gone. He is the Board of Supervisors. 234 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: What happened first was he announced recently he was going 235 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: to run for a state Senate seat. Days later he 236 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: suddenly announced, Uh, not going to do that, and I 237 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: need to go into rehab and I have PTSD. He 238 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: did serve in the military, and he did serve in 239 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: the military. I looked it up. So I didn't want 240 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: to make too much of this story until the other 241 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: shoe dropped last night. In other words, he's faking PTSD. Well, yes, 242 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: I think the indication it's very possible. He's been sued 243 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: by a former employee of the Metropolitan Transit System. They 244 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: operate the San Diego Trolley and the Wonderful Bus Network. 245 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: Fletcher was on the board of directors there. He resigned 246 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: that post too. He was actually the chair since twenty nineteen. 247 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: The woman's name is Grace Chef Figarola, and um, she's attractive. 248 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: A former television journalist who worked at MTS until she 249 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: was fired last month, and she says that was retaliation. 250 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: In fact, she said she was let go just days 251 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: after he announced he was running for the state Senate. 252 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: And why would that be Well, it starts with this. 253 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: She claims that he stalked her social media profiles and 254 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: initiated a flirtatious relationship that she thought would enter her 255 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: career as chair of the agency's board. Back in twenty 256 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: twenty one, she noticed that Nathan Fletcher began viewing her 257 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: posts on Instagram and other platforms, including personal photos, one 258 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: in which she's posing in a bikini. Can I raise 259 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: an objection too, if you're posting bikini photos online, you're 260 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: getting worked up because guys are looking at them. Well, 261 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: it went a lot further, I know that, but I 262 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: mean it's just kind of I just found that funny. 263 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: It's like, hmm, why is he looking at my bikini photos? Wow? 264 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Why do you think you posted them? Defendant Fletcher once 265 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: described her as quote a not trull Peruvian beauty. She 266 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: exchanges progressed. Now, yeah, this is the part. She was 267 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: afraid to reject his advances because he's the chair of 268 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: the MTS and she was on, you know, an employee there, 269 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: that's that thing. Again. The text exchanges became more suggestive 270 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: as Fletcher insisted on being quote discreet. Now we pause 271 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: here to tell you that Nathan Fletcher is a married man. 272 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: In fact, he's married to another wonderful hack, Lorraina Gonzalez 273 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: no longer in the legislature. But was Oh, she's she's 274 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: like this lab math communist. She is the author of 275 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: a B five, the one that created havoc with the 276 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: self employed. Yeah yeah, causing all kinds of problems for 277 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: people who do freelance work. And boy, she I mean 278 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: I could see why he was running around. Well all right, 279 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: so here's how this story progresses. He sends her a message, 280 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: I just got home how to teach a three hour 281 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: class UCSD all amped up from class and students on 282 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: all home alone tonight. I'm one hundred percent for trying 283 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: to find things in life that make you happy, feel 284 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: good and fun. I have a closet. No one would 285 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: see us there with a smiley face. I've never heard 286 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: of a guy offering a closet. Yeah, the closet. No 287 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: one would see us there. You know, this guy has 288 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: ambitions and a story like this that is a Gavin 289 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: Knewsome thing, though, I mean he's got the same but 290 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: if you look at a photo of him, he has 291 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: that Knewsome look and he Knewsome also had alcohol problems, 292 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: which is why and he was always screwing around and 293 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: screwing around. What it was I think staff chief of 294 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: staff the wife, Yes, right, same thing, Tony Vlaar kind 295 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: of did r Yeah, either his campaign manager's wife or 296 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: his staff or his chief of staff's wife. Everybody's wife, 297 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, everybody. At one point, according to her suits, 298 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: he asked to meet her in a conference room at 299 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: this MTS and he began kissing and groping her. She 300 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: says he grabbed her breaths under her blouse. Other exchanges 301 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: included the lawsuit appeared to confirm a series of secret interactions. 302 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: They met in a stairwell at Butcher's hotel in the 303 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: late night visit. His closet wasn't good enough now the 304 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: stairwell stairwell well, yeah, because you can hear the doors 305 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: open on the different entry points. So you might be 306 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: able to be uncomfortable though, have you rolling around? Yeah? Yeah, 307 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: at least that you could brace yourself against the wall. 308 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: It might be a little dirty too, that you're going 309 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: to be all right? So she so she was participating 310 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: in this obviously. Yes, yeah, I could ditch security guys 311 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: to go for a late night walk, but couldn't be 312 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: gone too long, he said, Or we could try to 313 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: plan another night, but not such short notice. And it 314 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: never occurred to her to say no, And I guess 315 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: you know what, She was going to let this pass 316 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: until she got fired. And she thinks she got fired 317 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: because she is what would you call it an open 318 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: wound here for him? Possibly, but this kind of triggered her. 319 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know why he thinks that she she 320 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: thinks that he arraigns for her to be dismissed. I see, well, 321 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: because you know, if he's gonna run for governor, then 322 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: he's got to dispose of all the potential. Yeah, but 323 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: don't you do a Trump and pay them off? Do 324 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: you'd fire them at that Trump's money for it seems 325 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: like the wrong thing to do. You get them enraged. Yes, 326 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: I would think you would have to treat women like 327 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: that in your life very carefully. But you have to. 328 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: You have to disconnect from them, but you don't want 329 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: to enrage them and have them go in public or 330 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: filing a lawsuit or calling up your wife. Right right. So, 331 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: she apparently was an NBC Telemundo reporter at one point. 332 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: She was from Las Vegas, graduated from cal State Northridge. 333 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: I began working at this MTS place in twenty nineteen. 334 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: She would post things about women. If you were a band, 335 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: don't just post about women's rights. Respect them in your 336 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: personal life, respect their boundaries, their bodies, and how you 337 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: treat them. It's hard to realize we have to remind 338 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: people that we aren't objects for their entertainment, and even 339 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: harder when we realize that even those who say they 340 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: support equal rights end up categorizing us as such. Oh, 341 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: I guess he was. She was referring to Nathan Fletcher 342 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Figaro other Fletcher's attorney. He says that she pursued the relationship. 343 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: She was the aggressor. By the way left wing politicians 344 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: who preach about women's rights and sex harassment, every single 345 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: one of them z a phony. Nathan Fletcher's of phony, 346 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's of phony. They're all phonies. They're all guys. 347 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: I when here's the part that does sort of close 348 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: what I just said. Figueroa says in her lawsuits she 349 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: tried to discuss the possible set with Fletcher after she 350 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: was terminated from MTS and before suing, but the talks 351 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: went nowhere. So now the response from the Fletcher people 352 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: she was trying to extort us, Well, that may become 353 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: an x because she has now filed a lawsuit, so 354 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: will Fletcher sue her for extortion? So this is quite 355 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: a little soap opera here. Yeah, let's just say this, 356 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: California dodged a bullet. Because Nathan Fletcher is an extreme 357 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: left WOCAC. You know, this will certainly derail his political 358 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: ambitions for a while. I'd forgotten he started out as 359 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: a Republican and somewhere. Yeah, but back in the two thousands, 360 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: and then I think about ten years ago, he switched sides, 361 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: and they also switched his sensibility at issues, maybe because 362 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: probably his ambition, his desire to become governor. He realized 363 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: in California, I can't be a Republican or even a moderate. 364 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: I gotta be a woke hole in order to win. 365 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of guys like that. You're right, Yeah, 366 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys who just make the you know, 367 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: finger in the air, which weighs the wind blow, and 368 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: they make the calculations what are their best chances? What 369 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: do the district look like to vote me in? Yeah, 370 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: and now there's a nineteen year old well, a woman 371 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: who says when she was nineteen, she was an intern 372 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: for Fletcher's foundation and she was getting sexually harassed by Fletcher. Oh, 373 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: another accuser was emerged. Yes, this is from San diegoville 374 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: dot com after news broke about a lawsuit by Figaroa. 375 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: Another woman has come forward to report sexual assault by 376 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: Fletcher when she was a nineteen year old intern for 377 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: Fletcher's foundation student you See San Diego. Since reaching out 378 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: for comment on the issue, Fletcher announced his resignation. This 379 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: girl named Amanda applied for an internship on you See 380 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: San Diego's Facebook page for an unpaid position with Fletcher's 381 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: veteran oriented nonprofit three Wiseman Foundation, and Fletcher had a 382 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: go ahead to go down further there. During a group, 383 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: It's alleged Fletcher slid his hand down her back, around 384 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: her waist and down her backside. Yeah. Another point, he 385 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: commented how hot she was, allegedly touched her inappropriately, running 386 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: his hand down the back of her pants, over her 387 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: buttocks up towards her genital area. She was shocked and appalled, 388 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: but she remained on the trip. I am sure you're 389 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: listening to John and Ken on demand from KF I 390 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: am sixty jocked an appalled. Was he married to Lorena 391 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: Gonzalez in that year. I don't know that he was. 392 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: Then Amander went to a lake dinner with end up 393 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: at a lake dinner with Fletcher and Kaylee, Fletcher's assistant 394 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: with this organization. When he arrived, Fletcher is said to 395 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: have slid close to Amanda in the booth, pressing his 396 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: body against hers, and Kayley excused herself to go to 397 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: the bathroom. Fletcher called Amanda at tease and told her 398 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: not to tell anyone because he was in a relationship, 399 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: and then sent her explicit inappropriate text messages, including a 400 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: request she give him a misogynist of tel room. Oh 401 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: all right, we got more coming up. By the way, 402 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Fletcher's not leaving the Board of Supervisors until May fifteenth. 403 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: Nobody seems to know. Why. Is it about money? Maybe 404 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: he wants to collect some more paychecks before he actually 405 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: walks out the door. We're coming up Johnny Ken caf 406 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: I AM six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeart Radio app. 407 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 408 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: I AM sixty. All right, we're on from one to four, 409 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: So if you miss any minute of the show and 410 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: you want to hear it, you just pick up the podcast. 411 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: It's going to be posted up right after four o'clock 412 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: at kf I AM six forty dot com or the 413 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: Guyheart Radio app. And you already missed good stuff. We 414 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: already had our our first round of celebrating that Mark 415 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas is going to federal prison. I know. That 416 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: was followed by another hack out of San Diego, Nathan 417 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: Fletcher resigning because he has aspirations to become California governor afternoon. 418 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Really we're serious about that, No, I think I think 419 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: he would have been quite a candidate for woke Heads, 420 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: but too many sexual charges against him. Now, yeah, we 421 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: ran up against him recently. He's one of those that 422 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: wanted to send all the homeless to Alcoholone. Oh yeah, 423 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: and they and they ended up some of them ended 424 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: up in a hotel. Remember the two guys were molesting 425 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: a couple of teen girls and then having sex with 426 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: each other, two convicted sex offenders. So you know that's 427 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: the work of people like Nathan Fletcher, because he was 428 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: objecting when Alcoholone said well, we're gonna have a rule 429 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: that you can't have these hotels have too many of 430 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: these homeless voucher people. And Fletcher and the Attorney General, 431 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: Rob Banter went berserk. You can't do that, though. This 432 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: guy is a major hack. So, uh, you got the 433 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: conviction of Mark Ridley Thomas John. We're gonna be standing 434 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: by soon for what what happens to Gwyneth Paltrow. They 435 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: were in closing arguments. Boy, oh boy, if she lost, 436 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: she lost this case of the skiing. She's not going 437 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: to prison. But no, but you sure, I mean, there's 438 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: no way to rig that. It's a civil trial. Rig that, 439 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, sure. The jury got so angry. 440 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: They also sentenced turn to one hundred days in prison. Trials. 441 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Ye are all rigged, aren't they? A lot of them are? Yeah. Boy. 442 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: The New York Post has dramatic photos and video of 443 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: the border at El Paso, Texas. We've talked about how 444 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: on this show, all it takes is a rumor in 445 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: countries where people are desperate to come to the United 446 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 1: States for them to react, whether they get it from radio, TV, 447 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: social media, it can really compel people. And the problem 448 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: with Biden is the message has been out there for 449 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: some time. Come to the US. The trunk days are over, 450 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: and that's why we saw an incredible number of migrants 451 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: crossing into the US in the last couple of years 452 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: of Biden's presidency. What happened yesterday in El Paso is 453 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: it apparently a rumor circulated on social media that if 454 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: you can get to the border quickly, get into the 455 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: US quickly you and surrender yourself to immigration agents, you're 456 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: gonna get asylum. So parents, and it looks like mostly 457 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: they were Venezuelans made their way to the border in 458 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: El Paso, Texas and began hurling their children across the river. 459 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: Chidgon jump them, Yeah, dodgeons of them. You can actually 460 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: see the pictures in the video of kids being tossed 461 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: like it's a game. From one the river is not 462 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: that wide at this point. But listen to this headline 463 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: migrant babies thrown over border. Migrant babies thrown over the border, 464 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: and they have photos showing little kids being thrown over 465 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: the border. Yeah, it looks like a game. It looks 466 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: like fun, although you don't want to drop the poor kid. 467 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: There's one picture of mother throws the stuffed animal after 468 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: the kid makes it over the here's your toy. People 469 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: are gonna people are gonna actually try to sell this 470 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: as these are good parents trying to do the right 471 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: thing for their children. Yeah, really talk to the kids. 472 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: You get thrown over the border into a foreign cut injury. Wow, 473 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't starve catching them. I don't know why they didn't. 474 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: Just don't really make sense. It's such a small space there. 475 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: Why didn't they just all wait over and get into 476 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: the U. I don't don't even understand who knows what 477 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: they heard because exactly right as word passes around, it 478 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: probably gets all distorted. Here is the reasons for this. 479 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: It's all about that Title forty two stuff. The rumor 480 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: went out that the US has given up on Title 481 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: forty two that was implemented when Trump was president over 482 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: COVID and it gives a special emergency medical rules to 483 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: turn people back. And those people were Cubans, Guatemalans, Haitians, Hondurans, Mexicans, Nicaraguan, Salvadorans, 484 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 1: and Venezuelans. They can automatically be expelled from the country 485 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: and return to the country of Mexico thanks to Title 486 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: forty two. So the rumor went out on social media, 487 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: the title forty two is over. Get there quickly though, 488 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: because you never know if they'll reverse it again. You 489 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: say that kind of thing. Yeah, well, they create hysteria. 490 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's just an emotional sumat nami. 491 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: When you're to the point where you're throwing your child 492 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: over the border in the air. God knows who's catching them. 493 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: We've seen this before. Maybe they were throwing them over 494 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: the fence. Yeah, they were kind of hoisting them up 495 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: over the fence and they're dropping them on the other side. 496 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: What why even have children just you know, buy some condoms. 497 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: What are you doing? It's not it's not like these 498 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: countries kid have a better life. Why did you have 499 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: the kid? Is what I'm saying, because all these countries 500 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: that we're in the same disarray two years ago when 501 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: the when the kid was conceived, Like what changed? And 502 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: then you're just dumping them over a fence And where 503 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: are they going to end up? And what kind of 504 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: trauma are they going to suffer from? All these parents 505 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: ought to be arrested. That'll be arresting all these parents 506 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 1: and putting them in jail. This is child abuse. How 507 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: can people don't look at it as child abuse? Oh no, 508 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: they're just trying to give their children a better life. 509 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: What better life is a whaler? Man must be in 510 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: really hellish shape that these people are this desperate to 511 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: get out of there. Hey, because they went all Bernie 512 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: Sanders there. They went for full socialism, communism, communism, yeah, hey, 513 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: don't know what. High inflation and no jobs, and half 514 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: the people under thirty believe in that. And they don't 515 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: seem to notice that countries that are truly socialist communist 516 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: people are fleeing and throwing their children away because it's 517 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: it's it's so heinous to live under. So it looks 518 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: like they rounded up most of them anyway, since they 519 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, they thought they had to just turn themselves 520 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: into immigration agents and they'd get asylum. Instead, they're going 521 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: to be sent back to Mexico. And that's where, you know, 522 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: we had that terrible fire the other day, because they're 523 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: that the tension center was a lot of the people 524 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: from the same countries Mexico's holding on to them, figure 525 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: out what to do with them, and a lot of 526 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: them going to get deported out of Mexico back to 527 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: their home countries. And somebody got angry and lit a 528 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: mattress on fire. Because when you have a feeble old 529 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: man as president, who's who spends most of his time napping. 530 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: This is what happens because even if you're into a 531 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: liberal open immigration policy, you still have to have some 532 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: order to it. Instead, you have dozens of people dying 533 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: in fires, you have children being thrown over the border 534 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: and abandoned. This if you're if you want people to 535 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: come in, set it up so they can it can 536 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: happen peacefully. I think everything about Biden was summed up 537 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: this week in the audio clip where he's coming downstairs 538 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: and everyone's expecting to make a statement on the horrible 539 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: shooting in Nashville, and he talks about wanting ice cream. Yeah, 540 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: that shows you how feeble and out of touch he is. Oh, 541 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: but ice cream. I came here. Yeah, I heard you 542 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: have ice cream. Okay, Jenny's. I like Jenny's. I came 543 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: here for the Jennis. Oh there was a shooting. Oh yeah, 544 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: that's horrible. Can I get some chocolate chip? Yeah? In 545 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: other news, six people were gunned down into school and 546 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: let me get let me talk to you about chocolate 547 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: ice cream. It was like it was like a bad 548 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: Las Vegas comedian. It was it was almost like a spoof. Yeah, 549 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: can't be serious here, Wow, he's he's shot. He is 550 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: gone gone. All right, we got more coming up. John 551 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: and Ken kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere 552 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken on 553 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: demand from kf I AM sixty. Johnny Ken share she 554 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: got shot again show kf I AM six forty. Yeah, 555 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: all right, the Moist line. It's coming back tomorrow. One 556 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: of the last reminders get your calls in for the week. 557 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Use the iHeart radio app, the microphone icon, call the 558 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: toll free number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six 559 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: one eight seven seven six six four seven eight eight six. Well, 560 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: apparently the retired optometrist who has been suing Gwyneth Paltrow, 561 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: that's the lawsuit in Utah over the ski collision that 562 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: they had compared her to Jeffrey Epstein in court. He 563 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: retook the stand yesterday and basically he's making the point 564 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: that she has to be held accountable, like oh, I 565 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: rich in the powerful half to be held accountable. Epstein 566 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: died because he either got murdered or killed him killed 567 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: himself in prison. But apparently she had quite a reaction 568 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: to just kind of look back, like what the hell 569 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: I just got compared to Jeffrey Epstein, and of course 570 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: she compared him to a sex offender when he landed 571 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: on top of her, like she's being sexually assaulted. So, 572 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, I guess maybe this is his way of retaliating. Yeah, 573 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: somehow she really got under his skin though this wasn't 574 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: just an ordinary ski collision. I mean, yeah, he really 575 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: can't stand her, and I understand. Yeah, I think he's 576 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna lose because I've been reading stories that he was 577 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: carrying on taking trips, doing things very physically active even 578 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: after this collision was twenty sixteen, and I right, did 579 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: they present that as evidence? I saw those stories. Now 580 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm with oj. OJ said, you know, collisions happened. I've 581 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: been on that hill with the coal, the call. He 582 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: actually mentioned the call in that in that tweet. Oh God, 583 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: if you really want to keep passing that off that 584 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with her death. Ah. This story 585 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: the one thing that really has to be figured out 586 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to the world of people deciding that 587 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: they want to identify as a different sexual agender. What 588 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: are we going to do about the world of sports? 589 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? Everybody knows about that swimmer, 590 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: right that college swimmer who was winning all those events 591 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: and was a guy who's identifying as a female. We 592 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: had a pro powerlifter in Canada who entered a women's 593 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: competition and smashed an all time record which was already 594 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: held by a translifter who was actually watching. Are you 595 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: confused by this? We'll have to clear this up. Avi Silverberg, 596 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: who's the head coach for Team Canada Powerlifting for more 597 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: than ten years, entered the event called the Heroes Classic Tournament. 598 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: This isn't a place called Lethbridge, Alberta. And he just 599 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: walked up and said, I'm identifying as a female. I 600 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: want to enter this and he won. Now clearly if 601 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: you look at him. No, this was a one time 602 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: only deal. It was a protest. Yeah, as a protest. 603 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: He walked up and he said, I'm identifying as a female, 604 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: and under their silly rules they had to accept him 605 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: in the competition. They accept you at your word. Yeah right, No, 606 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: they don't do anything right on the spot. Huh Yeah, no, 607 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: spot checks to see what it's really going on in 608 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: the shorts and yeah, well he was showing how ridiculous 609 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: it is, because it is ridiculous just because somebody says oh, 610 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: i'm identifying as You don't have to show any idea. 611 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: You didn't have to show any medical papers, you didn't 612 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: have to show that you know, you'd had some kind 613 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: of transition surgery. Nothing. You just walked in and said, oh, 614 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a woman today. And so they let 615 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: him compete. Any won and he broke the all time 616 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: record by a mile. Well, of course he did. Yeah, 617 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: he walked up, still fully bearded, wearing a regular men's singlet. 618 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: They called it the little weightlifting outfit. And then he 619 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: casually pressed three hundred and seventy pounds, beating the current 620 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: Alberta Alberta women's record by almost one hundred pounds. That 621 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: to me, and that record was set by an actual 622 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: trans athlete named and Andrews. Well, he just brilliantly destroyed 623 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: the entire facade. Okay, this is nonsense. You let biological 624 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: men compete in women's sports, they're almost always gonna win, 625 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: they're most always going to break the records. They're going 626 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: to shut out the biological women for the rest of eternity. 627 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: It's just wrong. And so he's showing that you can't 628 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: just walk up and say, well, I'm identifying today as 629 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: a woman, it's it's not even somebody who went through 630 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: the surgery and the hormone treatment and the transition and all, 631 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: not even that. But that's that's the way it's been 632 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: set up that if somebody says something, you're allowed not 633 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: allowed to contest it. We went through this with the 634 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: Me Too movement, right where somebody could say, oh, he 635 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: assaulted me on a date, and everybody went along with 636 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,479 Speaker 1: it until we realized, now we've gone into crazy land, 637 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: that any woman can say anything about anybody and destroy 638 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: their lives. Remember you had that that girl claiming Brett 639 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: Cavanaugh was organizing a ten person gang bang in college 640 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: and she completely made it up. Well, this is what's 641 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: going to happen. You can't just accept somebody's word for something. 642 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: You have to challenge them, especially when it's something important 643 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: like this. And well, I think it really goes beyond that, 644 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: because even if the person is taking the hormones and 645 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: going through the change, they probably still have some real advantages. 646 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, no, no, no, I don't think. I don't 647 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: think I can only have biological women compete in biological 648 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: female events and biological men. But that's describing an to 649 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: all well, then I guess it's gonna if that's what. Yeah, 650 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: but that's their definition of it. In fact, it's not. 651 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying this is gonna be thorny to 652 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: sort out. Already doing this in college sports and other places. 653 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: They will never sort it out because a biological man 654 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: will always always have a big advantage over over a 655 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: biological woman physically. That will always be that way. We 656 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: could argue this for a thousand years. It's not going 657 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: to change. It's not fair to the girls and the 658 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: women competing and organized sports. It's just simply not fair. 659 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: But you're gonna have to create a third division. Then, 660 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: Having said that, Renee Richards didn't win any Grand Slams. 661 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: If you know who that is, that was the tennis 662 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: player that in the seventies, Renee Richards was a guy. Well, yeah, 663 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: I transitioned and played on the women's tour, but did 664 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: not beat the likes of Chris Everett and some of 665 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: the other top female players. Right, but but did Okay, 666 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: I am not saying that they were not a competitor. Yeah, 667 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: but in a lot of these races, well, yeah, that's 668 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: swimm race. Just drawing a college swimming Renee Richards was older. 669 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: When you're when you're talking about a college male body 670 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: against a college female body. Well, and the reason this 671 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: guy did this in Canada because the previous records were 672 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: held by someone else who identified as trans used to 673 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: be a male. This is the person I mentioned and 674 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: Andreas and apparently she won eight of nine competitions entering 675 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: in the women's category of the last four years. So 676 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: I think his way is trying to say, look, we 677 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: got to do something about this, and I'm going to 678 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: prove it by walking up and so it goes I 679 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: think beyond not allowing people to just walk up and 680 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: identify as female on the spot with a big beard 681 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: and a male body. But they've got to do some 682 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: other things with the rules here, because destroy it could 683 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: destroy a lot of women's sports, real whiological women's Well, 684 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: why would you bother to compete to win if you're 685 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: going up against biological male bodies? I mean, how much 686 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: more deflating can you get to know that you'll never 687 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: be able to win, that you'll always lose out. And 688 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: so all the record books are going to show that 689 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: all the female records are held like people who are 690 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: biologically male. That would be bad, all right. When we 691 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: come back, we'll be talking to ABC News. Usually no 692 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: fly lists serve for possible terrorists, right, people that we 693 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: suspect may do harm to people on a board a plane. 694 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: But what about a no fly list of just angry, 695 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: worked up passengers who were causing havoc on the airplanes? 696 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken caf i AM six forty We're live everywhere 697 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app and Jeb Remark live the twenty 698 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: four hour Cafe Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the 699 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show. You can always hear us live 700 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: on caf i AM sixty one pm to four pm 701 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on demand 702 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: on the iHeart Radio app