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Speaker 1: college football writer, he Buries Sports. There's a financial crisis

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Speaker 1: headed in college football and college sports. Boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: do we have a show for you guys. First thing,

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Speaker 1: Peter Thamil, college football writer, Burry Sports. College sports, especially

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Speaker 1: college football, is facing a financial crisis. We have a

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Speaker 1: new segment called Start Sitting Cut. Larry Scott gets COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen right when he's getting ready to get fired. The

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve Recruiting. We are going to address new updates

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Speaker 1: there and we're gonna talk about the Civil War, name changing,

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Speaker 1: and of course they'll reviews. I'm George Rice Stir with

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Speaker 1: Ralph Amston and this is the Pack twelve Apostles. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to the Pack twelve Apostles. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast four Pack twelve Fans, Bipack twelve Fans, where

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get the real, get the information. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to sugarcoated. We're gonna tell you the good, the bad,

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Speaker 1: the ugly, and we're gonna have some fun along the way.

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Speaker 1: Stir and you can find the podcast that you need

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Speaker 1: to follow at at Pac twelve Apostles, And of course

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Speaker 1: share with a friend, not just one friend, but three

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Speaker 1: or four or five friends, and most importantly leave a

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Speaker 1: five star review, not a fourth star like Ralph asked

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Speaker 1: for it, but five star review. And of course, as

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Speaker 1: we take note and pay attention to the things that

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Speaker 1: you guys say, Uh, Ralph, are you ready? Man? It

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Speaker 1: is time to come back? Who's coming back? Football us?

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Speaker 1: What's coming back? Hold on? What the heck is going on? Pay? No? No,

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't hold on round Jesus please that

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Speaker 1: m no? Oh god, oh my god, are you hidding me?

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Speaker 1: What the I'm just going on in my life right now? Hello?

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Speaker 1: Broh Hello Ralph? Hello Ralph? Can you hear me? Hello Ralph? Rolph?

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Speaker 1: Can you hear me? All right? Either? Check? Check? Check? Check? Hello? Bro?

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Speaker 1: What what up? My life just fell apart? I was

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Speaker 1: calling you because I was bad, but I knocked over waters.

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Speaker 1: Truly funny, like ten different bad things at once. Okay,

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Speaker 1: oh we're still recording, clearly, so's I used the breake

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Speaker 1: to pour myself a glass of de Serrono of what

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Speaker 1: de sarno? What is SnO, you don't know, oh man,

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Speaker 1: kind of tastes like a sweet robatutin syrup pretty much.

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Speaker 1: It's like an Italian cherry liquor. They used to have

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Speaker 1: these elaborate commercials. I'm a fine one for you. And

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Speaker 1: College football? Actually, no, we're back, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: college football is back right well. Um, every single day

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Speaker 1: time armchair quarterbacking to say the conference should have done more.

429
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: And at the same time, if you just look at

430
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: the rate of growth and realize what it's going to

431
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: take to clean up a mess of such a bloated

432
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: uh thing that college football has become, then you can

433
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: definitely say, oh, they did not have the foresight or

434
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: anticipate this, and someone should maybe be held accountable for that.

435
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody to quote unquote hold

436
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: accountable because I don't think that you could have convinced

437
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: anybody to save more money. I don't think you could have,

438
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: especially when the conference was in distributing thirty three million

439
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: dollars per school and media rights in twenty nineteen compared

440
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: to you know, uh, forty four point six by the

441
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: SEC and fifty something by the by the Big Tent.

442
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: So you couldn't have convinced people to hold up some

443
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: of that that money because you know they would have said, no,

444
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: we need that money. We you know, you're messing up

445
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: our budgets all of this. And I've heard so many

446
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: people say we have to play because we the colleges

447
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: need the money. They have to play. And it's weird

448
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: to me because a lot of these same people are

449
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: the same people that say that college athletes should not

450
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: be paid and they shouldn't be allowed to trade on

451
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: their name, image and likeness, otherwise they should pay for

452
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: their own schooling. And it's like, you can't have it

453
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: both ways. You know, either they're student athletes, because if

454
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: the students aren't on campus, how can you ask the

455
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: athletes to be there? If you're going to claim that

456
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: their student athletes and shouldn't be be paid. There's just

457
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of hypocrisy in that. But to go back

458
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: to what you were saying though about the coaching salaries,

459
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: I definitely think that that the bubble probably has burst

460
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: because if you're looking at the cuts that a lot

461
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: of these um athletic departments are saying, they're talking about

462
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: seven percent cuts. If you lose your set of of

463
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: your income, which they're potentially going to lose, how is

464
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: the seven percent cut even gonna put it in in?

465
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 1: It's not you're gonna have to. These athletic departments are

466
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: so blown and and the system set up to where

467
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: you have to spend every dollar you bring in. You

468
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: have to do that. You're technically a nonprofit. So if

469
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: you have three million dollars left over in your budget

470
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, you gotta take that

471
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: down to a Booster owned print shop and print out

472
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: ten thousand Oregon State placards to hand out to two

473
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: people like you have to spend the money that comes in,

474
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: and then that's how you also anticipate your future budget.

475
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: So colleges could have saved billions for a rainy day

476
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: on their own if they if they weren't held to

477
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: this standard that it's dollar in dollar oute. Yeah, and

478
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: the other issue is not only dollar in, dollar out,

479
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: but also now you're gonna have well with all these

480
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: pushback and all this, you're looking at, how do these

481
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: coaches who some of them are up for for contracts

482
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: like Mario Kristo ball at at Oregon, and you're having

483
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: other coaches who were would have been up for huge contracts.

484
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: How do you square that with what some of these

485
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: other coaches are made and guaranteed through, you know, coaches

486
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: making you know, Devil sweeneyes on a what ninety million

487
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: dollar contract and if you go win a national championship

488
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: or you then supposed to play on a five million

489
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: dollar contract. You see what I'm saying, Like, are those

490
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: coaches gonna take pay cuts or are like? How do

491
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: you how do you fix that? That's the part that's hard.

492
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean NFL rookies had to eat that when they

493
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: structured slotted contracts that were team friendly, you know, after

494
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford and and Matt Stafford cashed in the way

495
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: they did, after Glenn Robinson held the entire NBA hostage.

496
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: How's that for a throwback? Reference after Glenn Robinson held

497
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: the entire NBA hostage trying to ask for a hundred

498
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: million dollar deal coming out of college. I think he

499
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: ended up with like sixty eight million dollars on his

500
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: rookie deal, and b A did the same thing. They

501
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: had slotted contracts that had team options and were team friendly.

502
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: I think that you just deal with the reality that

503
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: you get at the time. You know, some of these

504
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: schools are going to have to fulfill the contracts um

505
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: that they're currently under. But then again, you might see

506
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: schools renegg on some of those things based on maybe

507
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: like active God clauses or something like that. I mean,

508
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: just look at the fact that Brett Bielma is being um.

509
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Isn't he being sued right now? Um? And he's also

510
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: countersuing for his salary when they said you didn't negotiate

511
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: in good faith and try to go out and get

512
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: a job. University of Arkansas was saying that that you

513
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: you have to apply for equal value jobs and because

514
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: you didn't do that, we're not going to pay you

515
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: the remainder of your salary. You know, you never know

516
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: what loopholes are out there where people will try to

517
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: protect their financial liabilities. You might see people just outright

518
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: declare bankruptcy or insolvency of some kind and then they

519
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: just can't pay out salaries. We don't know how bad

520
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: it's going to get, and so I think there comes

521
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: a time when beggars can't be choosers. You know, I

522
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: already know a college football administrative staff member who was

523
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 1: going into his first year as a recruiting director, and

524
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they had to anticipate for future

525
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: budgets and he got laid off before he even got

526
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: to start. Um, that type of stuff is gonna happen everywhere,

527
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: and so everybody's gonna have to tighten their belt. And

528
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. So it's some of

529
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: it's not gonna make sense, and some of it's not

530
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: gonna be fair. How fair was it for the number

531
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: one overall pick who followed Matt Stafford and Sam Bradford.

532
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: How much choice did they really get in the matter?

533
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: You know, the situation was the situation, and I think

534
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: people are just gonna have to put their their big

535
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: boy pants on and deal with some of the cutbacks

536
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: that are that are coming. And realized that they lived

537
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: in such an inflated and blessed time. Um, that they

538
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: should not have been taking for granted because you know,

539
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: anybody who understands what a bubble looks like and what

540
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: you know that something can't continue to grow at that

541
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: rate infinitely would have understood that college football could not

542
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: have continued on the track that it was on. Regardless

543
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: of whether there was a pandemic. There was going to

544
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: be a limit to this. Yeah, it was gonna be

545
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's got to stop somewhere. It's

546
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: got to stop somewhere. I mean, the people may point to, oh, well, well,

547
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: how about the quarterback salaries in college In pro football,

548
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: that's different. Pro football revenue goes up every It's going

549
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: up every single year from I think nineties seven where

550
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: it was four million dollars all the way up to

551
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like seventeen this year, and after the

552
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: new TV money it will be twenty I'm sorry, I

553
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: mean million billion, um, like twenty five billion in the

554
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: next five years probably. And the protection on it, the

555
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: protection on it is that even if people can't go

556
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: to games, then that just increases the value of the

557
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: broadcast because that's where everybody's going to be and that's

558
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: what that's what they're gonna crave. So there is no

559
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: outside of just not having the sport exists anymore, there

560
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: is no end to what football can do and how

561
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: big it can become because it's all about where the

562
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: where the eyeballs are. And we've never been in a

563
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: situation where we would be more welcoming of in home

564
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: life sports than we are now. Yeah, um, I wanted

565
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: to talk to Ralph about an interesting angle that people

566
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: aren't really um that pushed the season back keep kicking

567
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: the can down the street, that people aren't really thinking

568
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: about and listening and paying attention to. Is on a

569
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: college team, you have in between like a hundred and

570
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty players, between scholarship guys and then

571
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: your walk ons, and every time you kick the can. Well,

572
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: the college coaches have a very tough job right now

573
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: because they are trying to keep those young men focused, safe, focused,

574
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: and making good decisions and keeping them um from engaging

575
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: in normal college kid behavior, which we have seen has

576
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: led to breakout and and uh fraternity houses and other

577
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: places on college campuses. So they're trying to keep those

578
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: kids focused, making good decisions in in in controlled environment,

579
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: but there's no end in sight. Everything keeps getting pushed back,

580
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: and eventually these young kids are it's gonna be hard

581
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: to keep them focused. Oh well, well, well we'll wait

582
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: till October, We'll wait till November, will wait till December.

583
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: And pros you can do that a little bit more

584
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: because they are professionals that and they're grown ass men.

585
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: But for kids, it's different. And these are young men.

586
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: Yes they're not just kids, they're they're young men. But

587
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: the but the focus level for college kids is totally different,

588
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: and I think that you put yourself at more risk

589
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: when there isn't a finite date or finish line. For

590
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: college students, they definitely need direction and they certainly need structure.

591
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we all do UM. But yeah, I would

592
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: say I would say that it's definitely gonna be trouble.

593
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: Like like football is definitely a lifesaver for some people.

594
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: You know, some people that have been in my UM life.

595
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: Once football ended for them, you know, that was definitely

596
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: when the when when the trouble started. I got a

597
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: couple of linebackers, um from my from my high school

598
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: team that I played with that have been in and

599
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: out of prison for the last eighteen years. And my

600
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: actual high school football coach spent just got out after

601
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: an eight year prison stint. That when football was out

602
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: of all of their lives for different reasons, you know,

603
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: they didn't have anything to look forward to and no structure,

604
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: um to help get them through the day. And that's

605
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: definitely one of the things that I worry about that,

606
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's going on right now. If if if

607
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of in an aimless situation, um, and the

608
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: whole country is in sort of um dire financial need,

609
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: and there's pent up aggression from not being able to

610
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: get out there and and and just exist in society

611
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: and all these things, um. With with the political tensions

612
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: that are out there, everything is just super combustible. And

613
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: that's you know, I don't want to see anybody get

614
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: in trouble. Just I worried about it enough, just with

615
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: the with the protests, you know, and I'm glad some

616
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: teams made sure that they were more organized and overseen

617
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: than just kind of allowing people to get out there

618
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: and you know, in in in the streets and possibly

619
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: cost themselves an opportunity or more. Um. Yeah, I'm definitely

620
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: worried about it. Man. I think that that you know,

621
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: as much as that's a health crisis, I think everything

622
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: can be really boiled down to some level of of

623
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: health crisis, and not having UH sports around could essentially

624
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: be a crisis of health, whether mental or physical for

625
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: a lot of young men out there. Yeah, you said

626
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: it perfectly. And now we're going to transition from all

627
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: that seriousness to a new segment that we're going to

628
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: put in. Let me put on my game shot voice

629
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 1: so we can hear it. Now it's time for start one,

630
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: sit one, and cut one with Ralph Ams Didn't and

631
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: George Rice Stir. The way the game is played is

632
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: you have three things. You have to start a thing,

633
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: you have to sit a thing, and you have to

634
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: cut a thing. So today, Ralph, we've got two different topics.

635
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: The first thing is we're gonna go with candy bars.

636
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: Which candy bar are you starting? Which one are you sitting?

637
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: And which one are you cutting? But we'll start with

638
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: the starting. Well, my my starter my number one. And

639
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: by part part of it's probably because I grew up

640
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: a child of the the nineteen nineties watching The Simpsons,

641
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: but for me it's it's butterfinger. It's got the chocolate

642
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: and the peanut butter, which is the greatest combination in

643
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: the history of sweets. Uh. And then it's got like

644
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: the flakiness, which which I like. It's fun to get

645
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: some butterfingers stuck in your teeth for for later. I'm

646
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the butterfinger. Only downside on

647
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: the butterfinger is the chocolate. Uh. Coating melts so quick,

648
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: so if you pick it up in a grocery store

649
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: you hold it in your hand for more than five seconds,

650
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: then you're leaving a bunch of chocolate on the inside

651
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: of the wrappers. So not a big fan of that.

652
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: But outside of that, butterfinger, perfect candy bar. You're joking, right, No,

653
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: nobody's got to lay a finger man, butter finger, dode.

654
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: I I wish the the options were start one, sit one,

655
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: cut one in, nuke one. I would nuke a butterfinger

656
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: there you couldn't pay well, yes, you could pay me

657
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: enough to eat a butterfinger, but there's zer road times

658
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: I would voluntarily eat a butter finger. I would eat

659
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: a score before I would eat a butterfinger. That candy sucks, dude,

660
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: But that candy bars terrible. My start one is a classic.

661
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: It is the ultimate candy bar. Snicker satisfied you peanut

662
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: butter caramel? What you got nugget chocolate? Dude. It is

663
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: the optimal candy bar. It is a it is a

664
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: meal and and like it is much like a butterfinger.

665
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: You better catch that room temperature. It's good in a freezer.

666
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: You actually have Snickers ice cream, you have Snickers of

667
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: ice cream bars. It is the optimal candy and that's

668
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: why it is a starter candy. The only possible answer. Yeah,

669
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's good. I'm a Snicker in a freezer

670
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: is you can't sleep on that for sure. But it's

671
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: got it's half nuked. Like that's the particle board of candy.

672
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing that fake would desk or a door.

673
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: That's that cheap crap. I don't I don't need that.

674
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: Give me like a receas take five or something. Just

675
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: get the new get completely out of the the equation

676
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: and we're good. Um. But I do respect it because

677
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: I will say, Snickers in a freezer is that's an

678
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: elite that that's an elite situation just to have an

679
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: ice cold bar. I like that. Yeah, who are you sitting? Well,

680
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: because of the NEWGAT situation, we'll go with the all

681
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: NEWGAT candy bar h three Musketeers, which commercials were ten

682
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: times better uh than the actual experience of eating the candy. Um.

683
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. When I go through my kids

684
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: pillowcases on on the night of Halloween and I'm picking

685
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: out the stuff that I'm saying that I'm testing to

686
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: see if it's been poisoned. Um. But the you know,

687
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: the truth is I'm just getting first DIBs. Taxing there,

688
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: taxing their all. Um. I believe them, every single uh

689
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: three Musketeers, and then they end up leaving them, and

690
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: then I end up throwing them out in mid December

691
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: because who cares. It's just it's only new get. It's

692
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: not even worth It's not even worth like peeling the

693
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: chocolate off the outside. It's no good. Yeah, I would

694
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: agree with you there, you made a quality. Actually, no,

695
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: now I would. I would cut three three Musketeers too.

696
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: It's not even worth working. The the one that I'm

697
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: gonna sit, I'm i I took I took my sit

698
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: at a different angle than you took it. I'm sitting

699
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: a candy bar that I don't want very often. Like

700
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: he did, this candy bar comes off the bench. He

701
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: scores big when he comes off the bench, and he's

702
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: a quality role player. But there is no chance that

703
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: this candy bar could ever be a starter. It can't

704
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: start anywhere. And that is an Almond Joy. And Almond

705
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: Joy is a good bench, can't it. It comes in,

706
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: it's in its own little individual rapper thingy and in

707
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: it's got a little almond in it, It's got the coconut.

708
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: It is a fantastic candy. And that's why it's a

709
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: sitter candy because you can't eat that every day. You

710
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: can eat the Snickers every day, but you can't eat

711
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: an Almond Joy every day. Try to argue against that, Ralph.

712
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: I love Almond Joys, man, I really do. UM, but

713
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: you gotta be you. You for sure have to be

714
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: in the mood for them. They're like that spot starter,

715
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: that middle reliever. UM, but they're not. Yeah, they're definitely

716
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: not a go to. Like when I'm in the gas

717
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: station and I'm trying to buy something sweet, I'm never

718
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: gonna just buy an Almond Joy. But another one of

719
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: those Halloween situations where if I go through one kid's

720
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: bag and there's like six Almond Joys in there, the

721
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: mini kind. I'm gonna take them all right, and then

722
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: back to back to back to back. So no, I

723
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: I get that that is a respectable choice. What candy

724
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: bar are you cutting? Oh? Easy, easy, I mean big,

725
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: and it's I would have cut this one, but I've

726
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: already nuked a butterfinger. The only thing that could possibly

727
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: even be close to a butterfinger is a reeseus Reese's

728
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: Peanut butter cups or Reese's pieces. Either one is a

729
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: cut candy. I would rather eat candy corn than either

730
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's just atrocious and they're they're

731
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: they're just awful, dude. Peanut butter and chocolate is not

732
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: a good common combination. It's barely good in smoothies and

733
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: protein shakes. Bare, I mean just barely tolerable. So yeah,

734
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 1: so it gets cut, and that the butterfinger gets nuked again. Well,

735
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna take up for George Washington Carver's masterpiece,

736
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: I certainly am. That's able are fantastic. Not only are

737
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: they fantastic, but how can you be my age having

738
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: watched ET and not been in fluids that like that,

739
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Like that's the perfect candy to straight up eat off

740
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: the ground, just like et did. Like et Is, Rec's

741
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: pecs are good enough to get you captured on another planet.

742
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: That's how good those are. Just terrible, dude, I can't

743
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: figure out why anybody eats those things and why they

744
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: like them. I mean, it's super popular and I'm just

745
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: not in it. Um, the next thing up, we gotta

746
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: start one, sit one and cut one. I gotta cut one.

747
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: I gotta cut a candy worlds World's greatest. You know

748
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? The dollar candy, like the ones

749
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: you get for fundraisers at school. You got to sell

750
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: them for a dollar a piece. Oh yeah, I know

751
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: what you're talking and they they've actually raised the prices

752
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: on though some of them are two dollars. Now. Yeah,

753
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: here's why I'm cutting that stuff, because one, it's delicious,

754
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: and if you ever crave it, you can't have it

755
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: because it only comes around in school fundraiser time. So

756
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: that part of it pisces me off too. It was

757
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: fine when I was a kid, and I'd find a

758
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: way to like sneak a few of them, and then

759
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: my parents would have to like find a way to

760
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: like to to pay for it. Like I'm the only

761
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: one fundraising because I'm the one eating the candy bars.

762
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: Um but as a parent, now that now that I've

763
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: got kids, what a pain in the ass. I don't

764
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: want to sell. I just end up buying the candy

765
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: bars from them because I don't want to bother all

766
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: my friends. All my friends have kids too. Everybody gets

767
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: the same fundraiser stuff. What are you supposed to hit

768
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: each other up? You might as well just buy them. Yeah,

769
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: I gotta get that, whether it's World's Best or World's Greatest,

770
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: whatever it is, cut it, get rid of it forever,

771
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: because if at least if it's gone gone, then I

772
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: won't feel bad that I crave it and I can't

773
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: have it. But it's like girl Scout cookies, Like you

774
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: want one of those chocolate bars? Too bad? The fundraisers

775
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: nine months away? Dude, I don't even like that. I

776
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: don't like World's Greatest. I used to, I used to

777
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: before I knew better. I mean I I don't get

778
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: the crisps. No, it's all almond. And the reason why

779
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't fool with World's Greatest is because I have

780
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: evolved in my chocolate eating. I don't I don't need

781
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Hershey's chocolate bars either, because they taste grainy and the

782
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: chocolate is not good quality like World's Greatest used to be.

783
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: So what's your what's your go to? Just straight up

784
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: chocolate bar? Then, oh, Lent, What the hell is that? Lent?

785
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: L i n d t. It's it's a little blue.

786
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: It comes in a in a in a in a box. No,

787
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: I never had no idea what you're even talking about.

788
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of it. L n or l

789
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: i n l i n d t l i n

790
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: d T. Lent went like the garbage like eating went. No,

791
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: not l i n t l i n d t. Oh,

792
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: the ones that make those stupid, the cherries that aren't

793
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: as good as they should be. The you're talking about

794
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: the okay, so they come in like the um the

795
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: little baggies. No, no, no, no no, no, no, you're thinking

796
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: about the truffles. No, those are the truffles. I'm talking

797
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: about the the chocolate bar. Chocolate bar. Yes, it's a

798
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: big rectangle bar and it's cut the same way like

799
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: a Hershey's bar is in little itty bitty squares, except

800
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: for it is high quality Swiss chocolate. I know I'm

801
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: getting a little fancy on people paying for chocolate bar,

802
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: but that's what I like. So that's why I don't

803
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: eat World's Greatest. I go to is Dove, Believe it

804
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: or not. I like those little the Dove squares. Is

805
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: it the same people to make the soap, so it's

806
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: not like that's weird if they make soap and chocolate.

807
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: Is it like Kirkland makes everything right, Kroger makes everything

808
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: you can? You can do more than one thing. I

809
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: just don't know if the soap people in the chocolate

810
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: people are the same. Maybe one of our listeners can

811
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: can help us out here. But the little Dove, the

812
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: milk chocolate, the blue squares, that's my go to. Um,

813
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: if I'm just eating straight chocolate, mhm m, I don't.

814
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: I will not frown upon Dove. But guys, that was

815
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: our new segment. Start one, sit, one cup one and

816
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: I nominate a new one. But you guys, send in

817
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: your comments see tell us what you think about, because

818
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: we're trying to make the show better for you. Um.

819
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: Next thing up, we have the Pack twelve recruiting. There

820
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: has been a lot going on on the pack twelve front.

821
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: People are you know, concerned and very scared in some

822
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: locations like down in Arizona, the and some places are

823
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: flourishing still like in Eugene, Oregon, USC still flourishing. Both

824
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: of them are in the top ten in um IN rankings,

825
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: well in uh the recruiting rankings on both sides. I

826
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: believe I'm on rivals and on seven, but you have

827
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: some other schools that aren't doing quite as well. So UH.

828
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: And since the last time we talked Ralph, what has

829
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: been going on on the recruiting front. Well, I mean,

830
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: there's definitely some teams that have kind of kicked it

831
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: into high gear, and there's a few that I personally

832
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: feel like have some cause for concern. We've talked about

833
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: previously on this show. Just because of the way that

834
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: things are shaking out and the way that spots were

835
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: filling up, we have way more teams that have over

836
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: ten commits than typically would at this point in the season.

837
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: You usually see a lot of people committing in June

838
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: and July or August right before the season starts, and

839
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: then the rest of the people probably probably a good

840
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: probably good of the top recruits recruit, uh, commit around

841
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: the December early signing period ERA, and then you'll get

842
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: like the stragglers. UM. You know, probably five of the

843
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: top twenty five guys are still left going into that

844
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: February signing period and so UM it's very rare for

845
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: almost every major school UM at the FBS level to

846
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: have the amount of commits that they currently have. I mean,

847
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: schools like Northern Illinois, who in a traditional year might

848
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: only have three or four commits at this time at

849
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: most have fourteen. Navy already has thirty five. They do

850
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: recruiting a little bit differently. Miami of Ohio has nineteen.

851
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: Remember there's a twenty five scholarship ship limit from year

852
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: to year. Georgia Tech is already at sixteen. Some of

853
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: the schools are at the top of the recruiting rankings

854
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: are there just because of volume. Michigan, Florida, and Tennessee

855
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: all have over twenty commits already, so does Louisville, and

856
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's definitely a pretty wild time

857
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: in recruiting. I don't think we've ever seen anything like this.

858
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: I doubt will ever see anything like this ever again. UM.

859
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: And because of that, it is very concerning to me

860
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: that some Pack twelve schools have not had any traction

861
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: when it's a lot easier to pick up those verbal

862
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: commitments early on in the season. Oregon State is currently

863
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: ranked last among all Power five schools, only ahead of

864
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: North Texas and the University of Houston, with six total commits.

865
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: Only three of them are at a three star or

866
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: above level, and none of them are above the three

867
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: star threshold. University of Utah is another one that's way

868
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: down on the list, currently ranked number eighty one in

869
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: the country by rivals. After all the success that they

870
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: have had, they only have six current commits um in

871
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: the class. Arizona State, which made some huge gambles to

872
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: capitalize on recruiting momentum, is OH for eleven head to

873
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: head with University of Oregon, OH, I think OH and

874
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: five head to head with CAL and OH and twelve

875
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: head to head with USC. They only have eight commits

876
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: right now and they've resorted to recruiting in North Carolina

877
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. They're trying to raid Big ten country for

878
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: for some of the players that that they're getting the

879
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: schools that are really showing out right now. As far

880
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: as just overall quality of commits. University of California continues

881
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: to impress. UM, Stanford's kind of in the boat that

882
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: it's always in, but in a weird situation where we're

883
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: not sure if you know, they're going to keep their

884
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: same entrance requirements that they have, while the n C

885
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: double A overall isn't even you know, looking at stuff

886
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: like SET and a CT scores heading into the the

887
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: upcoming season, So we don't know what Stanford's in store for,

888
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: but this is typically where they're at right now in

889
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: the process. The teams that have had some success. U

890
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: C l A has twelve commits, um, and like you said,

891
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: Oregon and USC are are definitely killing it right now.

892
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: I think twelve of oregon seventeen commits are all four

893
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: star or above. And the comeback from USC over the

894
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: last couple of down years in recruiting is definitely. UM

895
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: kind of a wake up call to the rest of

896
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve is they currently have twelve four star

897
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: commits as well, and UM, that's really the kind of

898
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: the recruiting breakdown. University of Washington obviously having the one

899
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: five star commit to go along with their for three

900
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: uh four star commits and thirteen commits overall shows that

901
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: they're doing well, but they want to be ranked way

902
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: higher than twenty seven in the country, which is currently

903
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: where they're at according to rivals. Yeah, I think they're

904
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: when I'm following a lot of the message boards and

905
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: I think, next we are going to have a Washington

906
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: guest um uh kayla Olan. So she does a a

907
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: podcast about the dogs and all of that, and I'm

908
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: and I was interested, um in in that because if

909
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: you look at, you know, the Washington message boards in particular,

910
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 1: they have been they're kind of fan base gauging their

911
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: their fan base is like they're saying, all right, we

912
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: just need to get recruits on campus. They need to

913
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: see the campus and and you know, COVID is messing

914
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: up our recruiting. But everybody is kind of in the

915
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: same boat and their hopes are in their in state commits.

916
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to say his name, e the

917
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: the wide the wide receiver. Um, what's his name? Ralph

918
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: from from from from Washington? E h A Mecca? Oh

919
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. Um. And he hasn't has he committed yet?

920
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: He can no, no, no, no, okay, give me a second.

921
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna nail his name for you. I

922
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: got this one and they are UM in the boat

923
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: for j T T. I use their initials. It's UM.

924
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: That's Ralph's favorite player in the class of He is

925
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: the second rated player or first radio player, depended on

926
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: where you look. And he you're talking about j T

927
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: to him Allow seventy five out of Bellevue East Side Catholic. Yeah,

928
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: he's he's all right. And that's what Washington is kind

929
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: of banking there. They're recruiting on. They want those two

930
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: number one, your number one receiver in the country currently,

931
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: at least according to Rivals, the number eleven player overall

932
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: is a Mecca at BUCA, who is out of steel Acomb, Washington. Uh,

933
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: he's And I gotta say, I've seen a lot of

934
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: these guys play. He is not one of the ones

935
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: that I have seen. What I haven't I haven't. I

936
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of these kids because the camp

937
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: circuit wasn't an option for me this year, and neither

938
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: was the Rivals Five Star Challenge because it all got canceled.

939
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: I went to one camp um on the West Coast

940
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: and saw some good players, but I'm missing out on

941
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: a lot of the top guys this year. Yeah, and

942
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: and and that sucks because you get a chance to

943
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: see a ton of these these kids and um, yeah,

944
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: and this year just makes it extremely tough on everybody.

945
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: But Cal though, Cal is absolutely killing it. Even though

946
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: that they only have nine commits, they have five four stars,

947
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: which is a significant upgrade, which is more than Washington

948
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: and U. C. L A Have combined, and more than actually, sorry,

949
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: that's more than every other school in the Pac twelve

950
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: not named Oregon or USC has combined. How about that

951
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: in commits at this point, Like, I knew that we

952
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: would see a big transition Ralph with UM the Winter

953
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: signing Day, and last year we saw a lot of

954
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: kids commit in commit and sign in Winter few it

955
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: kind of destroyed the the February signing Day thing, except

956
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: for you know, the kid who ended up going to

957
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: South South Carolina and the and the running back out

958
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: of Texas that flip flopped like fifty times. But aside

959
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: from that, it really wasn't a big splash. And I

960
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: now I think we're seeing things regress towards what it's

961
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: going to be. I think you're gonna get a lot

962
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: of early recruits and I think a lot of these

963
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: kids want to lock in their spots now, especially knowing

964
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: that their college football seasons aren't gonna happen. They want

965
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 1: to get locked in, graduated early, and then just check

966
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: in in the winter because they're they're saying, well, why

967
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: am I gonna stay here? Now? I can just I

968
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: can get to school, get working out, and try to

969
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: start the following year. Do you think we're gonna have it,

970
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: uh high school season? No, I find it very unlikely

971
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: that we are. Well, I think the high school season

972
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: probably will happen closer to January, maybe February, and if so,

973
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: it's going to look a lot different. Like I think

974
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have some of the higher rated kids

975
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: who are already committed check out because they're gonna be like, listen,

976
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm not getting hurt, already got a scholarship, I'm out.

977
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: And I think that you're gonna have some kids who

978
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: really need it, who are trying to move up and

979
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: get scholarship offers. I think that those kids are gonna play.

980
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: I think that they're absolutely gonna play. Um. Next thing

981
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: up the Civil War. So the Civil War Oregon versus

982
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: Oregon State has been played like a hundred and twenty

983
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: three times, and a lot of people are very upset

984
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: that it's not going to be that, that's not going

985
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: to be the name anymore. And I'll put the link

986
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: or you can check my Twitter. I did. I was

987
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: part of a video that the University of Oregon put

988
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: out because there was a lot of people who did

989
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: not respond favorably to it, and they actually said some

990
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: not borderline racist, but some racist things on message boards

991
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: and all of that, and it just was a terrible look.

992
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 1: And Dennis Dixon, who former quarterback at Oregon, who kind

993
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: of spearheaded that people were very upset with him. He

994
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,479
Speaker 1: got threats in all kinds of stuff. So they wanted

995
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: to put out a video really in support of of

996
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: him and all of that. So we did that and

997
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: you can find it on my Twitter. I'll put it

998
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: in the show notes as as well. But um, what

999
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: was your take on it, Ralph? I thought it was

1000
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, my initial reaction, if I'm being honest, as

1001
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: I just thought it was us taking our eye off

1002
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: the ball. There's bigger issues out there, the things that

1003
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: matter more. The focus of the country seems to be

1004
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: on justice. Uh. For Brianna Taylor and and for you know,

1005
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,959
Speaker 1: her boyfriend, um, and you know, all these little concessions

1006
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: that seem to be taking place out of a sense

1007
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: of duty toward political correctness seemed to not be the

1008
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: things that are the major priorities. And so my initial

1009
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: reaction is, Oh, this is just another one of those

1010
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: overreaches that aren't addressing the real systemic issues, um, that

1011
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: are out there. And then I started to think about

1012
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: my own situation where my dad's from the northern Cheyenne

1013
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: Rez in southeast Montana. I've always been against the whole

1014
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: Redskins thing, and I hear all the time people say that, oh,

1015
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: this whole um, you know, Redskins getting that having to

1016
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: change their name. It's new. It's a result of cancel

1017
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: culture and PC culture. And I just think to myself, like,

1018
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: I've hated the name for twenty five years and I've

1019
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: been super vocal about it the entire time. And there's

1020
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: political cartoons that are floating around out there from like

1021
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy two Washington Evening Star, um that make

1022
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: fun of the fact that the Redskins is a racial

1023
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: slur and talk about the fact that the team was

1024
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, insensitive and not changing their name in the

1025
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: same year that Stanford dropped Indians from from their nickname

1026
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: and went with Cardinal, and in the same year that

1027
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: Utah dropped Redskins from their nickname and went with you.

1028
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: So it's been an issue for forty eight years. So

1029
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: then I thought to myself, well, maybe this has been

1030
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: something that took existed within the Oregon Oregon state community

1031
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: for some time and I just haven't been aware of it.

1032
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: So from that point on, I chose to just kind

1033
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: of shut up and listen. And ultimately it's not something

1034
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: that matters to me all that much. Yeah, And if

1035
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm being honest about it, like I wanted to support

1036
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: Dennis Dixon in this and the other people because it

1037
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: mattered to them so much, and to other people because

1038
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: I was focused on what you would call like some

1039
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: of those quote unquote bigger issues. And and as things

1040
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: got brought up, Yes, I acknowledged the things that they said.

1041
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: I got it. I was like, oh wow, I get

1042
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: why they have some sort of problem with it. And

1043
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 1: so the video was about you know, it's not the name,

1044
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: it's the game. And some people like you, like you said,

1045
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: they think that this is new or this is you

1046
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: know that people haven't been talking about it, or you

1047
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: know it's always been called the Civil War. No, it's

1048
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: not like it in uh, it's only been called the

1049
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: Civil War since a writer wrote about it, and it

1050
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: just kind of stuck. But in and it was called

1051
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: the Oregon Football Classic before that, and I think and

1052
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: and but the part that really like bugged me the

1053
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: most was to see some of the terrible reaction by fans,

1054
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: to see some of the racist comments that they made

1055
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: in in in literally like not in conspiracy groups, not

1056
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: in random groups, but in actual Oregon football Facebook groups,

1057
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: Reddit groups, all this, and it was just it was

1058
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: just sad to see because Tom Herman made a great point.

1059
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: He said, uh, fans need to support the players the

1060
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: same way that they do off on the field as

1061
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: they do off the field. And and that's where I

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Speaker 1: kind of stood on it, because it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: you call the name. We've seen other rivalry names change.

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Speaker 1: The Red River Shootout has changed to the Red River Rivalry.

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01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: We've seen them Washington Bullets changed to the Washington Wizards.

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Speaker 1: We've seen the you know, so many names change, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because at this point in time. Wouldn't

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01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: people rather just say, I don't care what goes on,

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: just give me football. I don't care what you call it.

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Speaker 1: Just as long as it's a pig skin, that's all

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Speaker 1: that matters. Would you agree with that? Yeah? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess. I. First of all, I don't care that

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01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: much enough to necessarily disagree, because it's not it's not

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01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: necessarily my cause. But I want to have empathy and

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: sympathy or at least the ability to listen, and so

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01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, I I can agree with that. And then

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: ultimately the end of the day, there's for these people

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: that really push back on stuff that doesn't have any

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: thing to do with them out of a fear of

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01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: the spread of cancel culture, political correctness. You know, I

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: would just say, you know, take a chill pill and

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01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: let some stuff go. It doesn't and some stuff doesn't

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01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: ultimately matter all that much. Yea. And my mother is,

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01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: why are you so mad? Like they didn't cancel the game?

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: Why are you so mad? That That's the part that

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: I I have been repeatedly saying to myself, like when

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01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: you see those people on videos who go off on costco,

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01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: I feel threatened and his stuff when when when he's

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01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: got a gun under his belt and all this, You're like,

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01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: why are you so mad? I don't. I can't understand.

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: I cannot, for the life of me, understand why they're

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01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: so mad. Um. But one thing we're not mad about.

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01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: We're not mad about our reviews. And sure now I'm

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01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: positive I'm not. I'm not. I'm not mad. I'm you know,

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: m hm oh. Since the last podcast, we've gotten some

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: reviews and this became a topic. If you guys are

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01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: just joining us, because Ralph in the beginning of the show,

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01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: I asked people to leave five star reviews, and Rolf's like,

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01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: the he's the passive, aggressive, competitive person who pretends like

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: he's not competitive, but he really is, and he really

1101
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: wants five star reviews. I just embold enough to ask

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01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: for five star reviews. Don't just leave a rating and

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01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: leave a five star rating. And so we started reading

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01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: reviews and we thought we had something with our guy

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01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: Guerrilla Bears, who left us a one star review after

1106
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: we after a podcast about Morgan Scally Scally Scalar Scally Scally.

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01:13:54,040 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: You don't get purpose you Taws, the innsive coordinator and

1108
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: who was head coaching waiting, but not not anymore after

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01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: you used a couple in words and Gorilla Bears was

1110
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: he left a scathing review and then he amended the review,

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01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: and we we hoped that he would keep amending the

1112
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: review every week, but he decided to just drop the

1113
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: review period. He didn't want to be a part of it.

1114
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks Gorilla Bears. I hope you're still a

1115
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: fan in listening though. But Ralph, as you do, you

1116
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: can do the honors per usual and read our reviews. Okay, okay, um?

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01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: So do you want to go with the uh the

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: five star review or the two four star reviews out

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01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: the gate? Oh? Of course the five star reviews. The

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Speaker 1: five star reviews get get priority, all right. I enjoyed

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01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: this one. This is from last Hope of Cunningham's five

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01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: star reviews said I wanted to give a four star

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01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: review just for the reaction of George. However, I did

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: say if Ralph went in on all the people who

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: didn't take this seriously, especially a certain person in Nashville, Tennessee,

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01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: I would give a five star. So here you go.

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01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: So that was our one five star review, and he

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01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: seems to be happy that I went after a certain

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01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: um talking head out there who has moved the goal

1130
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: posts several times regarding the expectations for what COVID is

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01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: doing to our country. UM. Four star review from Santan Devil. Uh.

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01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: This is a fun one because he did the thing

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01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: that we asked. And by we, I mean me, because

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: you don't want any part of this. But I said,

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01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: I would rather get a four star review with an

1136
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to earn a fifth star then get a five

1137
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: star review. UM. That way, people I know they're paying

1138
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: attention and we know they're getting their real criticisms. Anyway,

1139
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: that's what this person did. He left a four star review.

1140
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: It said the Pack of Apostle is a good podcast

1141
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: worth being on my subscription list. However, there's room for improvement.

1142
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: Don't worry any a four star podcast make it to

1143
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: the League of five stars. Here's a few things that

1144
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: I enjoy in my five star podcast. The podcast could

1145
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: use a few more notable repeating segments other than the

1146
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: star review segment. How about a weekly recap of Pack

1147
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: twelve football slash basketball verbal commits. Maybe a short lived

1148
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: segment on Larry Scott each week. Short lived sounds hopeful. Um,

1149
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: you could call it Wine and Cheese with Larry, or

1150
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: maybe the Leisure Suit Larry Report. If somehow there's a

1151
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: fun segment that's just fun, that would be cool too.

1152
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 1: I love the Adam Corolla podcast for just that. Maybe

1153
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 1: find a funny guest co host who can produce a

1154
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: short snippet of each week or every other week. So

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: Santan Douvil is setting a goal for us, George to

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01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: earn that fifth star from him. I know you'd rather

1157
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: just have the fifth star, but that gives us something

1158
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: to think about. And this last four star review, hold on,

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01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not mad at his I'm not mad

1160
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: at Santan Devil because I have long thought so I

1161
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: want to give him credit for this. I have say

1162
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: said for a while that we should have put some

1163
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,919
Speaker 1: additional features in, and we tested some out today and

1164
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: we'll we'll see how it goes. So if you guys

1165
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: want to add in, chime ins and into I'm mad

1166
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: at Unafraid show dot com or hit us up on

1167
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: Twitter at Pack twelve Apostles or Ralph ams in there

1168
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: at George Rice stir So. This last one, this is

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01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: probably my favorite review ever because it not only is

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01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: it a four star review with a criticism on how

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01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 1: we can get better. We literally cannot appease this review. Uh,

1172
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: it's quite the conundrum, and you know I'm gonna read it.

1173
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: It's from ire Er. It's a great discussion of current

1174
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: pack twelve events. I love the focus discussion on a

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01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: number of FAC twelve relevant topics that aren't fully limited, uh,

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01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: limited by sports. But still the sports focus would be

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01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,879
Speaker 1: a five star if not for the weekly discussion of reviews,

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01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: so which we're talking about right now. Yeah, we literally

1179
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: we literally blew it by reading this person's review, uh,

1180
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: because the only thing keeping them from giving us a

1181
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: five star review is us talking about reviews, uh, which

1182
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: is that that's a tough one because I'm not sure

1183
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop doing that. So I'm I don't know

1184
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: how you feel about that, George, I don't know if

1185
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna get this fifth star. Yeah, and I'm okay

1186
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: with that one, because I think that people have enjoyed

1187
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: the review talk and of course it has continued to change,

1188
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: like it's continued. The ratings have continued to go up,

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01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: and we've gotten feedback and people are responding and it's

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01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: become a thing. So Hopefully our reviews become such a

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: thing that it becomes that people want to go on

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01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: and review reviews. I will be happy with that as well.

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Speaker 1: Um but guys, of course we appreciate your time, We

1194
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: appreciate your energy. Thank you for listening to the Pack

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01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 1: twelve Apostles, sharing the time with us, and of course

1196
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: share it with a friend, not just one friend, not

1197
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 1: just two friends, three four or five six friends, because

1198
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: that's how we grow the podcast. We need you. Um,

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01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: you can hit us up on Twitter like I said,

1200
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: at Ralph Fams and at George Rice or at Pack

1201
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: twelve Apostles, or send an email too I'm mad at

1202
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: Unafraid show dot com, and of course leave a what Ralph,

1203
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: helly whatever of you you want? You know, close mouth,

1204
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: don't get fed, Ralph, peace out. Catch you guys, next episode.