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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Kadeen and I'm Devoued, and we're the Ellis's.

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Speaker 2: You may know us from posting funny videos.

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Speaker 1: With our boys and reading each other publicly as a

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Speaker 1: form of therapy.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I make you need therapy most days. Wow?

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Speaker 1: Oh, and one more important thing to mention, we're married.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, we are. We created this podcast to open

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Speaker 2: dialogue about some of li's most taboo topics.

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Speaker 1: Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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Speaker 2: is a term that we say every day. So when

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Speaker 2: we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts one hundred

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Speaker 2: the truth, the whole truth.

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Speaker 3: And nothing but the truth.

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Speaker 2: We about to take philosof to our whole new level.

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Speaker 1: Dead ass starts right now, all right, Sherry, Yes, yes, this?

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Speaker 1: How does this feel to be in the opposite chair?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Normally you're the host, you're asking the questions. How often

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Speaker 1: do you sit down for an interview with someone?

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Speaker 4: I don't really, So this is actually fun for me.

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Speaker 3: It's giving exclusive, it's giving exclusive, and it's fun because

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm not under any pressure.

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Speaker 3: I'm not under any pressure to say, Oh, Kadeen wants

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Speaker 3: to promote something. Oh, I can't ask Kadeen this. Oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, I don't want to upset her. Like I

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Speaker 3: don't have to think about nothing you.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, the pressure somebody has turned on the air.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what's so funny. Initially coming into this, first

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Speaker 1: of all, thank you for sitting with me. You can

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Speaker 1: be doing a million other things right now. It's still

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Speaker 1: the summertime in New York. My kids are back in school,

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Speaker 1: but I know Jeffrey's not so Jeffer's.

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Speaker 3: At his mom.

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Speaker 1: However, I'm in a moment where coming here, initially I

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Speaker 1: felt some butterflies. I was like, oh my god, Sherry,

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Speaker 1: I have to sit and interview Shery like I'm doing

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Speaker 1: like this is my dream job and I'm about to

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Speaker 1: interview someone who is literally living my right. And then

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Speaker 1: as I got closer to the studio and once I

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Speaker 1: got here, I felt a sense of calm, and that

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Speaker 1: for me was just kind of confirmation or affirmation that

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Speaker 1: I'm where I'm supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: Yes, which is too to whatever that thing is, that

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Speaker 3: dream and how God is going to anoint it. Because

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Speaker 3: we're spiritual people. Sure we talk deep spiritual, but sure.

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Speaker 3: It's like when you say you could be doing anything, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be doing this with you, because, as

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Speaker 3: I tell everybody on my team, the blessings that I

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Speaker 3: get are not only for me. Everybody is supposed to

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Speaker 3: eat off that blessing. So when your husband called and

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Speaker 3: said my wife is I was like, I don't care what. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we need you to fly with whatever.

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Speaker 4: God bless him, your husband when I tell you he loved.

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Speaker 3: You, and I love that because I remember you said

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Speaker 3: when we were talking that this is your dream to

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Speaker 3: have a talk show. So whatever I can do to

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Speaker 3: help in whatever part I can play, or however God

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Speaker 3: wants to use me to assist, then that's what I'm

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Speaker 3: going to do. So it's not no, there were things,

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Speaker 3: but I was supposed to be here, Like I didn't

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Speaker 3: care how it was happening. When they said I had

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Speaker 3: gotta do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sherion was a plan to Chicago for me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, don't even care. Listen like you're walking in your purpose.

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Speaker 1: Indeed I received that, and I so see it deeply.

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Speaker 3: You you have given up so much to highlight your husband.

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Speaker 3: You've given up so much to raise these three princes. Lord,

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Speaker 3: I forgot you track, and so I can't can track

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Speaker 3: with your belly because you get the belly, you lose

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Speaker 3: it so fast. I'll be losing track of the kids.

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Speaker 4: But it's like you.

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Speaker 3: You were raising these little princes to become kings, and

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Speaker 3: you were fulfilling the first assignment. So God is gonna

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Speaker 3: bless you on this journe and I would love to

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Speaker 3: be a part of your blessing because your seeds that

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Speaker 3: you've been planning, that's like investing in stocks. And I

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Speaker 3: do want to you because this is gonna benefit me too.

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Speaker 1: I received that shry that's so true, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: even think of it that way. But you're absolutely right, Deval,

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Speaker 1: and I always say it. Even on our podcast Dead Ass,

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Speaker 1: we say all everything that we've accumulated is not for us.

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Speaker 1: It's part of a bigger picture. We're blessed in abundance

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Speaker 1: because we are on God's assignment to bless other people.

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Speaker 3: And you have. That's how I found out about you.

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Speaker 3: I was scrolling on Instagram and I saw a Dead

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Speaker 3: Ass and y'all were talking about something about a like

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Speaker 3: every every time you do the podcast is something. It's

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Speaker 4: And that's when I started following both of you.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know you. I hadn't even watched Devel

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Speaker 3: I just believe God blesses exponentially.

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Speaker 4: It's never supposed to be like about y'all.

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Speaker 3: It's who you're touching. God can't use you if you're

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Speaker 1: That's when I realized what my purpose was, Sherry, because

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Speaker 1: for so long I would think about it. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: being a wife and mom? And to your point, having

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Speaker 1: dead Ass as a platform where we just share unapologetically

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Speaker 1: about so many things. I'm just hoping that it resonates

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Speaker 1: with someone when people stop us on the street now

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Speaker 1: and they say, you saved my marriage single, Yeah me,

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Speaker 1: you taught me how to talk to my partner. I

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Speaker 1: didn't agree with what you said then, but it makes

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Speaker 1: sense now. That's when I feel like, Wow, I'm really

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Speaker 3: So in that darling she reisonated with me, I don't

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Speaker 3: even want to get married. I was like, I gotta

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Speaker 3: find a husband. But it showed me, like every time

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Speaker 3: y'all talk, it shows me what a marriage should be

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Speaker 3: looking like, honest, authentic, you know about trust, about God, about.

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, the way you and Deval talk even

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Speaker 3: about putting each other first, yes, because you can't take

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Speaker 3: care of the family if y'all en, It just resonated

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Speaker 1: And this is a service based industry. If you not

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Speaker 1: prepared to serve, baby, this is not for you. And

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Speaker 1: that's usually what I tell people. And as soon as

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Speaker 1: you realize that which side of the industry you're on,

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Speaker 1: you'll be a happier person.

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Speaker 3: Girl. Sure see, I already got.

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Speaker 4: It out blessing me.

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Speaker 1: I mean you know, I know you did it twice.

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Speaker 1: It's three times a trying real quick. While we're on

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Speaker 3: I will never say never, because I literally I'm a

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Speaker 3: believer in marriage. Okay, I believe in the benefits of marriage.

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Speaker 3: I'm not one of those people I'm in love with

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Speaker 3: being married. I think marriage is so God said, if

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Speaker 3: I willing to serve? Am I willing to Am I

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Speaker 1: The better good of the collection of the collective?

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Speaker 4: And so I don't think that I was there, and

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Speaker 3: Take time to just wait. I don't want because I

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Speaker 1: Did you have like a timeline in your head of

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Speaker 3: Like to say, Well, I never thought I was want

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Speaker 4: But I thought I was getting older.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm forty three and I'm getting old,

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Speaker 3: and who's going to want to get married to me?

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Speaker 1: Who?

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Speaker 3: All of that stuff? And it's so funny because now

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm fine.

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Speaker 3: I can't even believe I thought that right forty three.

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Speaker 3: At fifty seven, I'm like, I'm a great catch. Somebody's

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Speaker 3: going to be moving and doing what I need to do,

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Speaker 3: And I remember a pastor said he's going to interrupt

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Speaker 4: But I do believe I will never.

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Speaker 3: not looking for marriage because, first of all, kadeem my mouth,

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Speaker 3: Of being a boss here that doesn't transfer over sometimes

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were forced into a boss position?

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Speaker 1: Because I know some women who feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just had to take charge of my life and

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Speaker 1: But did you feel like that was your story to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have to say I was forced into

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Speaker 4: Not going to put my my son.

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Speaker 3: I wanted him to attend a certain school and they

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Speaker 3: like we could put him in a great gym class.

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Speaker 3: That was so insulting to me, and I had to

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Speaker 4: Do Chicago and.

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Speaker 3: Me want to.

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Speaker 1: Understand?

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Speaker 3: But I had to say uh uh, and I will

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Speaker 3: report you and what you just said. And so I've

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Speaker 3: I forget, I don't know, but Sister Soldiers, baby, I

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Speaker 4: Get people that don't like me. People are gonna hate you.

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Speaker 3: People are gonna hate you because they're in fear because

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Speaker 3: you think. Yes, so people who's because it's always somebody

441
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Speaker 3: who be like you ain't cute? You think you and

442
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Speaker 3: I go sist, step out and take a risk.

443
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Speaker 1: Sex, you'll be you actually think I'm cute. That's the problem.

444
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: That's it.

445
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 3: That's you don't want to take so it would it

446
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 3: serves you to criticize and always try to be positive.

447
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Speaker 4: So that's why I don't pay.

448
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 3: I feel for younger people who are on social media

449
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 3: because it's such a different time in youth and you

450
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 3: want to get valid and you want all this love

451
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 3: and it's like you'll never get it. The lights all that,

452
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 3: and everybody's picky.

453
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 4: You know this girl love you one day and the

454
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Speaker 4: same people hate you the next. Then they love you to.

455
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Speaker 3: It's like fickles have fickle fickle if you don't have

456
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 3: your cousins and your mama and your husband. That's the

457
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 3: core people. I got a core group of girlfriends. When

458
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Speaker 3: niece Nash calls me and checks me, her, I listen

459
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Speaker 3: to a third.

460
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Speaker 4: Of the time.

461
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Speaker 1: You take some things with I completely get it. All right, y'all,

462
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Speaker 1: stay right there. We're going to take a sure break

463
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Speaker 1: and come right back to you. So Sherry multi hyphen it.

464
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Speaker 1: You do all the things actress Radian. Everything is anything

465
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Speaker 1: like the top for you, Like, what do you really enjoy?

466
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Speaker 4: I feel like this is such a pet answer.

467
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 3: I'm so blessed, Like it makes me cry that God

468
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 3: has allowed me to do all of the things that

469
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 3: I love. So I feel like it's hard to it's

470
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 3: hard to pick one because it's always been my dream

471
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 3: to be a talk show host. It is always, and

472
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Speaker 3: you know this, when it's like that dream that has

473
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: hadn't come to pass, it's always. I love doing stand up.

474
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 3: I love making on the stage just me and myself

475
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Speaker 3: and with my life making somebody feel better about what

476
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Speaker 3: I've gone through, Like when I went through a relationship

477
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Speaker 3: breakup and it had with single talked about it on stage,

478
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: and I had so many women coming up to me, going,

479
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: I'm going through the same thing. So I love being

480
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 3: able to make people feel better with laughter. I love

481
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Speaker 3: being able to I just finished this movie with Tyler Perry,

482
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 3: you know, like I love acting. I love, you know,

483
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 3: writing books. I'm working on the children's book right now,

484
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: so I'm so thankful. And they're all different animals. So

485
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: I love acting. I'm miss acting. I want to do

486
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Speaker 3: a sitcom where I make people laugh even while I'm

487
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Speaker 3: doing the talk show. So what's my favorite all of

488
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: all the things? You know?

489
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Speaker 1: Specifically look at you as a comedian, because I'm thinking

490
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Speaker 1: of the talk show space, right, I have to have

491
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Speaker 1: the personality like people tend to err on the side

492
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Speaker 1: of comedy and make people laugh even if it's a

493
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Speaker 1: serious topic. But in this day and age, I feel

494
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Speaker 1: like people are so hypersensuive about all the things my

495
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Speaker 1: good So how do you navigate this ever evolving ecosystem

496
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Speaker 1: of sensitivity that people have as a comedian when you

497
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: want to spit facts but doing it in jest, how

498
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: do you navigate that girl, so you not canceled every

499
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: two seconds? I feel like every comedian is canceled for

500
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: saying something that people really want to say. Anyway, girls

501
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: like I can't say it.

502
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Speaker 3: Kadeen, I did a joke about my son. He's on

503
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Speaker 3: the autism spectrum, and I did a joke and I said,

504
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: sometimes I feel like he ain't autistic. I feel like

505
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: I'm being bamboozo. I feel like this book and when

506
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: I tell you the number of people that wrote in,

507
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: they were offended. They were And I'm like, and my

508
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: son is like, I gotta find humor, and some of

509
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: the stuff that he does, I gotta and you get

510
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: so many people to come against you. So doing a

511
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: talk show, it's a little bit more tricky because I

512
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 3: always want to find funny, but I don't want people

513
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: to be hurt by my funny. Like because number one,

514
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Speaker 3: Woopy said this to me. She said, because we were

515
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Speaker 3: on the view and it was a hot topic and

516
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Speaker 3: there was a certain person I can't even say names

517
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Speaker 3: because will be gonna kill me.

518
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Speaker 4: Who them something to somebody that we know.

519
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Speaker 3: And I said, I know he did that on purpose,

520
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: and I know this happened to her because of him,

521
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Speaker 3: and I want to talk about it.

522
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 4: And Whoopy said, we're not going to talk about that.

523
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Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm telling you, he do this

524
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: to women all the time, and he always and I

525
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: want to like, we got the platform, and she said.

526
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Speaker 3: And then of course, since Whoopy said she wasn't gonna

527
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Speaker 3: do it, everybody was like, well, I'm not doing it either.

528
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Speaker 4: So I went into.

529
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Speaker 3: Whoopee's room and I said, Whoopee, why you shoot this

530
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Speaker 3: down because everybody knows this particular superstar did this to

531
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Speaker 3: this woman. And but and this is what she said

532
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Speaker 3: to me. She said, Sherry, if you go up in

533
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Speaker 3: the club, she said, first of all, celebrities have long memories,

534
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Speaker 3: and you're going to work beyond the view you are

535
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Speaker 3: an actress, yes, And she said, so if you walk

536
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Speaker 3: into a comedy club or a club and he sees

537
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Speaker 3: you and he decides he want to pop you in

538
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Speaker 3: the mouth, ain't nobody gonna do nothing there, gonna pull

539
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Speaker 3: out this help. They're not gonna do anything, right, she said,

540
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Speaker 3: But if Elizabeth Hasselbacker asking the club, I don't do

541
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Speaker 3: nothing to her. And she said, so they have long

542
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Speaker 3: memories and you have to remember that. So that informs

543
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: how I do things on this show. Like I come

544
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 3: in from a place of love and you know, light

545
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 3: and light laughter. So I want celebrities to know when

546
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Speaker 3: Cherry's making fun of me, she's coming from a place

547
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Speaker 3: of love where they don't feel like I'm being mean

548
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: because I do have any but in this day and age,

549
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: sometimes they don't. And I still have to go and

550
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Speaker 3: work and take care of my son, and I don't

551
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: want anybody like. I saw a celebrity at the comedy store.

552
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: Now it was stuff about him and the Sherry wanted

553
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: to get on the chair and be like anyway and

554
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: talk about him. But thankfully my best friend John, He's like, now,

555
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: where can we come in from a lighter place where

556
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Speaker 3: people are going to be inspired?

557
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Speaker 1: Right?

558
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Speaker 3: And I did? And do you know afterwards, I went

559
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: to La I went to a club, walked in and

560
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Speaker 3: that person was right there and he hugged me and

561
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: he was like, hey, sis, now he's hugging me.

562
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Speaker 4: My face was like this, but he said, I thank

563
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Speaker 4: you for what you said.

564
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: It really it made me feel so good and I

565
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Speaker 3: appreciate that, and sists, if you want me to come

566
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Speaker 3: on your show, I will be happy. He stayed and

567
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: watch me do my set. He was like, oh my God,

568
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: like we gotta like, I gotta, can you come do

569
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: something with And I was like, okay, absolutely, that could

570
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 3: have went a different way. I'm a woman, I'm a singer,

571
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Speaker 3: you know, And I think about that all the time

572
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: because I'm out in these streets.

573
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Speaker 4: I did so many different things.

574
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Speaker 1: So you never know when someone's gonna spend the block

575
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Speaker 1: and you have to either work with them or they

576
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Speaker 1: making a decision. Absolutely, And if I was even saying

577
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Speaker 1: it the other day about some PA's who have now

578
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: were PA's years ago and they're now executive producers and

579
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Speaker 1: they're calling the shots and they're making the decisis and

580
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Speaker 1: they remember that they remember every single interaction.

581
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Speaker 3: There are some people who will never set foot on

582
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Speaker 3: my couch because of how they treated me in the industry.

583
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 3: And they come to me and go they don't remember,

584
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: but I remember how I felt in their presence, and

585
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 3: they will call me, go girl, when you're gonna bring

586
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: me on your show, I'm gonna never phone near the

587
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: never ary. I'm gonna put that on the T shirt

588
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: girl like that. Yes, they would never be on the

589
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: and and people say, but what would Jesus do? Well,

590
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm not Jesus. My name Cherry that Jesus will let

591
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: them come on and get them a word. You don't

592
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 3: get to come on, no, sir, so you're not work.

593
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Speaker 1: I want to show you something, Sherry, show me really,

594
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Speaker 1: Coret Clay, let me pull it up with this.

595
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Speaker 4: I want to let you know I'm probably saying stuff

596
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: I shouldn't even be saying.

597
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Speaker 1: No, baby, transparate this atmosphere of comfort. We can just yeah, good,

598
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: good and you do good.

599
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: Thank you. I was actually going to ask you for

600
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: feedback later, like how to do this makes me very

601
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: happy because you're walking in, walking in your purpose. Awesome.

602
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Thank you, my love. All right, So take a look.

603
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: Here now with me, right now, I have none other

604
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: than the hilarious. I'm really doing great. Is I'm in

605
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: a room for the mothers.

606
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 4: I'm really doing good.

607
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: Tell me about the event tonight and what it means

608
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: to you to be here for celebrity women and doing

609
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: both things. They're juggling home and heart.

610
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's really inspiring to be around these these

611
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: mothers because I'm learning different tips of how to balance

612
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: my life because I think mother wig the spinning plates.

613
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

614
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: Before I had my son Jeffrey, I was living, eating greer.

615
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: I was always hustling. I everybody knew me. Oh my goodness, Jeffrey,

616
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: both of us and you got there and everything else.

617
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: I started learning to say no, and I've turned down

618
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: projects because it took me away from Jeffrey. How good

619
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Speaker 3: you are?

620
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Speaker 1: Burning down names are come to me tenfold.

621
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Speaker 4: I never wanted to be one of those homes that

622
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 4: were Sam come to me and twenty one.

623
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Speaker 3: You were never there, so I wanted him and I

624
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: always know you are the most important thing in my life.

625
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: Not a show, not a talk show, not a sitcom

626
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 4: talk show.

627
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, God, thank you.

628
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: Talk about a full circle moment about living and walking

629
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: in purpose, talk about God ordering our steps and opening

630
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: the doors.

631
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: In the windows. Baby. So that was okay.

632
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: I went to school for broadcast journal I'm going to do.

633
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: I went to school for broadcast journalism and it got

634
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: my masters and speech communication, rhetorical studies, and performance. So

635
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: this has always been since the beginning of time for me,

636
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: and looking at that, it was what is God's confirmation

637
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: for you? God's confirmation for me is that this is

638
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: what It's funny that we watched that because we talked

639
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: about the things you had to say no to because

640
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: it didn't serve you and your son and your family

641
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: in that moment. And my confirmation came from actually me

642
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: recently canceling a live show. Oh, I had planned a

643
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: live tour show, and having the guts to say I'm

644
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: not going to do this, I'm going to cancel took

645
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: a lot because of course there's a speculation like, oh,

646
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: why did she cancel? What happens? The first of all,

647
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm not pregnant.

648
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: That's the first thing. Oh darn, it's not it.

649
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: I love when you get pregnant, Devo too.

650
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: That's the process. But no, it was it was in

651
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: those moments where I had to navigate and change plans

652
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: and pivot that the doors opened further and why yeah,

653
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: And that for me, try not to get emotional because

654
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: it's not supposed to be there. It's supposed to be

655
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: that the way around. But that for me in those

656
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: moments when I have Sherry Shepherd who answers my husband's

657
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Speaker 1: call and says, yes, Kadeen, I'll sit with you. A

658
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: couple of other people who I've reached out to for

659
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: my live show they said, Okay, the live show is

660
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: not happening. But when can we chat? The people who

661
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: are saying yes to me is literally my confirmation from God.

662
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: Like Kadeen, you're moving in the way you're supposed to move.

663
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: In the past ten years, I've dedicated so much time,

664
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: especially to my family, to growing my family and to

665
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: being that present mom. And in the video that we

666
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: just watched, you talked about say no to opportunities because

667
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: Jeffrey was of utmost importance as a mother and the

668
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: door is opened and other directions that you could not

669
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: have even fathomed.

670
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: I think that's so I love that you speak that

671
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: because I think it's so true. That's I believe is

672
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: our first assignment as we're mothers, we're wives, and you

673
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: just you put it aside. It wasn't to know, it

674
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: was just not yet because you had to be a

675
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: force in your family. You were there for your husband,

676
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: you were there for your kids. And I just believe

677
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: that God honors that and he brings it to you

678
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: when it's supposed to happen. Absolutely, and it's for me

679
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: with Jeffrey's same thing. I turned down so many things

680
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: and I was like, Lord, did I make a mistake?

681
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: Did I? But I didn't. I really didn't want him

682
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: to say you were never there on Jew Jeffrey's nineteen

683
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 3: Now he says other stuff, Why you in my room?

684
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: Why how come you keep calling me? But he never

685
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: says you were never They were never there.

686
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: You sit in here and you don't want him to

687
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: be twenty one and say that that was.

688
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: Eleven years ago, that was eleven years ago.

689
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: And he can't say that.

690
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: He can That's the one thing he does not say,

691
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: like and so I just know that God. Sometimes I say, God,

692
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: why did you give this blessing to me? When you

693
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: know my memory? I mean, forget girl. When I tell

694
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: you A big superstar was sitting on the couch across

695
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: from me, and I was like, what is his name?

696
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: Again?

697
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: Family?

698
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: How many like that? Absolutely?

699
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: And I said he's a heart throat, said in the moment,

700
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: and then just.

701
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: Name when I tell you? And they could tell I

702
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: was panicking. I was like, I don't remember prompter.

703
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: I was like, sweetie, who are you?

704
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: Who are you telling you? I'm on your flipp it.

705
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: But I was like, and you give me this blessing

706
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: when I don't have as much energy as I would

707
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: have had in my twenties.

708
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: I'd have been.

709
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Ripping and run, more stories to tell.

710
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: But I'm have more life.

711
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: You've lived more.

712
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: I've lived more. I was confidence, and it's because I

713
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: just took a little break and I made sure Jeffrey

714
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: was okay.

715
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

716
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: And it's great to have the support of not only

717
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: my husband, but women like you in the industry who

718
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: are taking the time to help push me forward and

719
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: to help mentor me and to help further confirm where

720
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be. I was reading an article where

721
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: someone was interviewing Lena Waithe and she said that no

722
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: one should go to their grave with a dream deferred.

723
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: And I've learned over time that a denial in a

724
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: moment is not necessarily a no, that it's just deferred

725
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: to a later time when you're better able and equipped

726
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: to receive that blessing and be a blessing to others

727
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: because it's not just about us, which we've said. So

728
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm in that space now where I feel like, no

729
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: longer am I going to self sabotage and say you're

730
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: not ready for this in this moment. You're no longer

731
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: going to procrastinate because you say you're a perfectionist, but

732
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: you're not really a perfectionist. You're really just out here

733
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: trying to buy time. Yes, I've realized as I watched

734
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: my children grow. I have a thirteen year old, which

735
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: is insane to me, girl, and those moments when I

736
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: look at him, it really gives me that real life,

737
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: physical perspective of how time flies goes by so fast.

738
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: It goes by so fast, and I'm just trying to

739
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: live in it. Now, I'm in a space where I'm

740
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: just living in it, and I'm like, God, order my

741
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: steps where I'm supposed to be in those rooms. There's

742
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: rooms that I haven't even been in that people are

743
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: already talking about me and my name and who I am.

744
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: And I receive that, Well, you're going to touch people

745
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: that other people will not be able to touch. That's

746
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: why He's putting you there, like we all you know, yeah,

747
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: we have just speaking of black women who have a

748
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: talk show. So it's Tameron Hall, it's Jennifer Hudson, it's

749
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: me and you got you know, folks who are part

750
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: of a panel like a Whoop we go bird. But

751
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: there's so much room here, and there's an audience of

752
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: people that God wants to be reached through you and

753
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: you're absolutely walking in it. And so you know, sometimes

754
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: we do, we procrastinate and we try to be perfectionists.

755
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: But that's I think it's also because we're scared, absolutely

756
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: because God don't require you to be a perfectionist. He

757
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: just requires you to show show up and do the work.

758
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: He requires you to show up and then he'll do

759
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: the rest. But your move of faith is just standing

760
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: there going I'm here, I don't know what to do.

761
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: That's how I felt my first my first day when

762
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: doing this talk show Kadeen, I was like I got

763
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: a pan. I get into a panic, of course, and

764
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, how am I going to be different

765
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: from there's so many talk show hosts.

766
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: Lord, what am I going to do? I don't have, Like,

767
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: I don't have a monologue, I don't have what.

768
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Am I supposed to like do? I just start out?

769
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: And first of all, he was like, calm down, watch

770
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: your tone. You get you question. And it was then

771
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: it was literally like this voice said, you just talked

772
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: to Oprah two days ago. Just tell the story the

773
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: way you're gonna tell the story about the advice she

774
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 3: gave you.

775
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 4: And that was my first monologue.

776
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: And it was like and then God sends people into

777
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: your life to confirm. And then another sister said to me,

778
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: you have to walk into what is he has already written.

779
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: So he's already written it for you, you just gotta

780
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: walk in it. And then another sister said, Cherry, just

781
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 3: show up and he'll do the rest. And so whenever

782
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: I get nervous and I go, Lord, I don't have

783
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: any jokes, I don't feel funny, nothing is hitting me.

784
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: I don't remember the story I'm supposed to do, the

785
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: teleprompter has gone out. I'm just sitting here. I go.

786
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: All you want me to do is show up and

787
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: you'll do the rest. And that's what he's doing for you.

788
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, And I think thank you for that, Sherry.

789
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: And I truly believe that I'm not going to touch everybody.

790
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be liked by everybody, but the people

791
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: who are for you are for you. We've even realized

792
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: that in our social media journey. You know, take me

793
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: or leave me, that's it, Take mere, leave me. Have

794
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: you ever felt like you know what I have to

795
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: kind of like style step and curtail. You know how

796
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: I speak, or the way I move or the job

797
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: I take because that will then eventually get people to

798
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: buy into what I'm doing now, like throughout your journey,

799
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: ycause you've done so many things.

800
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: I have coming up Okay, And that's why I love

801
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: that I'm not my twenties anymore. In these thirties because

802
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: I felt like I wanted everybody to like me. I

803
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 3: always said yes, because I felt like I just if

804
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: you could depend on me, then you'll like me. If

805
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: you will, if you like me, then you're gonna need me.

806
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: You'll need me, And it doesn't work out that way.

807
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: So now with this show, I see why he gave

808
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 3: it to me at this age because if this is

809
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm Auntie, No, No, it's my go to.

810
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: There is something about forty. I turned forty in December.

811
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: M h.

812
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 4: And what happened baby.

813
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: Once I hit the fourth floor. Yes, it was a

814
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: process and it took some tragic events for me to

815
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: get to this point. But baby, I don't care.

816
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 3: You don't care.

817
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: This is who I am. It is you love it,

818
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: you don't. Oh well, oh well, because like you said,

819
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: no one's putting twenty dollars in that card to my kids.

820
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely're not looking for the bill to be paid. They're

821
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: not doing anything with the lifestyle that I am now

822
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: building for my family. So there's something about it. So

823
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: you're telling me that there's.

824
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: Even more girl when you get to my neighborhood, when

825
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 4: you get to my block.

826
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: When I get to the fifth it's even more man.

827
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: From the fifth flip oh can get and when you

828
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: get to the fifth floor girl, when I tell you,

829
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: it is a freedom of not really caring, like if

830
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: you're respectful. I read all my comments.

831
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: I do.

832
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: I read them because there's a lot of people who

833
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: are just respectful.

834
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: One one lady said, cheer. I love you so much,

835
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 4: but you gotta breathe like.

836
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: You keep talking. I'm talking so fast. That's that's that rate.

837
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: There was not disrespectful. It's because she cared and she's

838
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: like her. And so I read and I go, thank

839
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: you so much. And then I get the bad ones

840
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 3: and I don't care. But I sit in this space

841
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: when things are offered to me, I'm not afraid to

842
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: say no, and I go. If you don't like me,

843
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: then there's other people that there's other flavors that you

844
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: can get with. But if you do, come on over

845
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: to this side and let me take you on a journey,

846
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: but otherwise my life is still moving. I don't have

847
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: a lot of time to give energy to people and

848
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: trying to change and trying to because I think the

849
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: moment you try to change to become what you think

850
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: people want.

851
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: You to be is the moment you start to fail

852
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: and you lose that authenticity.

853
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: You lose the authenticity because it's.

854
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: A hard facade to keep up with. People always ask

855
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: the value, like how a y'all able to do content

856
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: and do videos and type a podcast? I said, because

857
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: we literally are speaking our truth through the life in

858
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: real time and we're okay sharing that. Because what happens

859
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: with sharing is that you are now kind of opening

860
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: up a community of people that feel like I'm not alone. Right,

861
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: someone can resonate with this. I am going through the

862
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: same thing too. You don't feel like you're the anomaly anymore. Yeah,

863
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: there's like a camaraderie in sharing that if you are

864
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: positive and you're looking for the positivity in it, that

865
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: you could really grow from there. You go, let's pivot

866
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: back real quick too. When you wanted to become a mom.

867
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: We have a lot of women who listen to the

868
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: show and the purpose of a day with k when

869
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: I have a lot of my women on we're talking

870
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: about the woman three sixty, So what does she look

871
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: like on different perspectives? Right, because I'm thinking about just

872
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: like spinning a top, and we're doing all these things

873
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: all the time. Right, at what point did you say,

874
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: you know what I want to become a mom. You

875
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: didn't have the conventional route of motherhood. You went through surrogacy.

876
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: You said you had a couple abortions in the past too,

877
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: So at what point did you say, you know what

878
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: this is for me? This is the route I'm going

879
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: to have to take and being okay with that?

880
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: You know, I felt a lot of guilt. I was

881
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 3: young when I went through abortions. I was just young,

882
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: just wasn't thinking. And then they came back to bite

883
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: me in the butt of feeling guilt because it was

884
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: very hard for me to get pregnant, and all those

885
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: guilt feelings came back. And I made peace with it

886
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: because a woman came up to me at a faith

887
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: conference and she said, because I felt so guilty, and

888
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: I was like this, I'm cursed so I can't have

889
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: a baby. And she said to me, she said, Sherry,

890
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: I need you to name the babies, and she said,

891
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: because when you get up to heaven, because that's where

892
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: you're going. She said, when you get up there, they're

893
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: gonna be waiting for you, and they're gonna be waiting

894
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: with their arms wide open, saying Mama, Oh my God.

895
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: And I tell you I cried. I cried, and I

896
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: felt God's just forgiveness come over me, and so I

897
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: can talk about it like that, yes, because I know

898
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: that He's forgiven. But then it was like once that happened,

899
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: it was like something released in me. And then then

900
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 3: I went through that I don't know if I can

901
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: do this. I don't know if I'm going to be

902
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: a good mother because I came from a you know,

903
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: generations of single mothers in my family that we were

904
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: always having to do it by ourself. So I was like,

905
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm want to bring that child into the world. And

906
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: then so I got married and I finally was like,

907
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: oh kayah, and then everything went to hell and a

908
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 3: handbasket and I was a single mother with a child

909
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: that has special needs. So it is it's it's been

910
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: a journey, like being a mother and feeling like I'm enough,

911
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: you know, and being with Jeffrey. I love being a mama,

912
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: but I go through Gosh, I go through something, especially

913
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: if you have a son and he's black with special needs.

914
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Every day it's probably like label, label, label, but.

915
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: I always worry every day, Like Jeffrey is different, he

916
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: processes differently, so I worry. He's nineteen. He looks like

917
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 3: he's twenty three. But if you were to looked at

918
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: my son, you would see a fourteen year old. You'd see,

919
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: you know, And I go, well, the police recognize that

920
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: my son's you know, my son doesn't want to have

921
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: a label. When I say, if your phone runs out, babe,

922
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: tell people you are to stick and you just trying

923
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: to get in touch with their mom. And my son says,

924
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell people that because I'm not. WOW.

925
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: So he doesn't subscribe.

926
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: He doesn'tscribe.

927
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: He was misdiagnosed wow up until the time he's nineteen.

928
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: He was diagnosed with that at sixteen.

929
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: Is that why you say that sometimes you feel like

930
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: he's like tricking you, like he's.

931
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 4: Not sometimes feeling because he's so smart.

932
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: Right, Because Dakoda, our two year old, was diagnosed as

933
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: speech delayed. Yeah, and you know, we went to see

934
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: a therapist. Of course, you know, all hands on deck.

935
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: Now we're all talking to him every day, like Dakota.

936
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 7: Here and check.

937
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: We do all these things because of course, as a parent,

938
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: you do your due diligence, you see, and make sure

939
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: that your child is okay with all the resources. And

940
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: after a couple of months, the Coda starts talking. And

941
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: now he's talking up a storm, and we're thinking to ourselves,

942
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: I think he duped us the whole time. And he's like,

943
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: he's like, y'all mofos up in his house talking. I God,

944
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: damn day, all seven of y'all because my parents live

945
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: with us. So he's like between my parents talking asses,

946
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: between my brothers giving me what I want, between my

947
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: grandparents talking for me. Why do I have to talk?

948
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: So it's funny how sometimes these children, we do all

949
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: the things, and they have these labels they want to

950
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: place on our black boys. But then it's like, no, baby,

951
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: my baby, My baby knows what's going on.

952
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: He's so he's so very smart. My son will recognize.

953
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: We saw a basketball star from the seventies. He was

954
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: crossing the street and Jeffrey goes, that's so and so,

955
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: and he made this many.

956
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 4: Three pointers in Then I was like, first of all,

957
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: who is that?

958
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: I was an all black man and I said, excuse me, sir,

959
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: are you I can't remember his name and he said,

960
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: yes I am, And I said my son, Like, can

961
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: you take a picture of him? Because he knows you?

962
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: And he was so like, I believe it. Jeffrey's just

963
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: like he's just he knows all the stats and things.

964
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: And at that point, you're like, you want to be

965
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: on my show. I know it's like, oh you.

966
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: Somebody, you somebody somebody, But yeah, a lot of times

967
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: I feel Jeffrey. He's so smart in different things. But

968
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: I also go, shiy, are you doing the right thing

969
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: for Jeffrey? Are you too protective? Are you too? I've

970
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: had to let go of a lot because I don't

971
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: have a partner with me raised Jeffrey of really releasing him.

972
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: My girlfriend. You always have to have a girlfriend that

973
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: like talk to God like every day.

974
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: She don't want to.

975
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: She want to say God told me, and I literally

976
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: she said to me, because I'm so protective of Jeffrey,

977
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: And she said, God said to tell you you got

978
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: to release him. And I said, what does that mean?

979
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: She said, he said, who knows Jeffrey better his mother

980
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: or the one who created him. You've got to release

981
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: him to me. And so even moving out here to

982
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: New York, I didn't want to do it because my

983
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: village is in la And she said, God said, New

984
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 3: York is not for you, Sherry, it is for Jeffrey.

985
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: That is where he will find his independence. And when

986
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: I tell you this boy walks to the bodega by himself,

987
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: he picks he gets the ubers by himself. He done

988
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: lost about ten of the house keys, and you know,

989
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: Jeffrey's like.

990
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: Well, whatever, we're going to another one.

991
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: No, Jeffrey, were not behind gated community, you would get

992
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: not to say, are.

993
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 7: You the man that's just like, now everybody gonna get

994
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 7: in my house?

995
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 4: Yes, mother, I'm like everybody from prison. Don't take that

996
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 4: uber and find those keys.

997
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: And don't come up and kill everybody because you then

998
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: lost it. And he's like, well then I won't get

999
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: another one, and I get your mom thing to do.

1000
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: We always go to the worst case, the worst case baby.

1001
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: But he's so independent, Like he went to Times Square

1002
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: by himself, to daven Busters to play video games and

1003
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: like he and I'm like Jeffrey, and he's like, stop

1004
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: calling me. I'm fine, Stop texting me. And I texted

1005
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: him Kadeen, and I said, Jeffrey, I just wanted because

1006
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 3: he texted me. He said, I'm going to a restaurant.

1007
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: Because they don't money don't mean nothing because they got

1008
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: Apple pay. They think money falls from the phone. From

1009
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: the phone, he says, I'm going to get something to eat.

1010
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: So I was sitting here like this and I texted

1011
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: him and said, are you okay? And I called because

1012
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 3: he didn't answer. I says, it's everything okay. He goes, Mom,

1013
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: I don't call you when you're eating your lunch. Why

1014
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: are you calling me when I'm eating my lunch?

1015
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: Everything is fine?

1016
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: Why keep calling me?

1017
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: You got life through sixty on his phone job, I

1018
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: got life three six, I got.

1019
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: Life eight eighty, I got it all. Yeah, I got

1020
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: a lasting girl. When I tell you, I so just

1021
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: the letting go and letting. I've had to let men

1022
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: into his life because I'm not a man. So there's

1023
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: things that a man can teach Jeffrey that I just can't.

1024
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: I used to let that boy take a shower and

1025
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: put He puts the towel right above his dad on

1026
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: a yeah, and there was a man do Hughley or

1027
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 3: Cat Williams. Somebody was like, Sherry, he got to drop

1028
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: the towel, he got to drop the town put it

1029
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 3: on the stomach.

1030
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 4: And I said, well, I don't want Florid to get all.

1031
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: Wet, Sherry, Listen, we had an incident recently three days

1032
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: ago in our house. Jackson had a basketball game, okay,

1033
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: and Javal said, you know, he wasn't playing hard and

1034
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna let these kids pump him. And he's growing

1035
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: up in this part of Georgia and he's not in

1036
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: the streets like I.

1037
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: Wasn't in Brooklyn. And I need to drop him off

1038
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: in a park in Brooklyn so he can get a

1039
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: man up.

1040
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: So he's carrying on after the game, right, And of

1041
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: course the mom is like, I just want to just hug,

1042
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: just hug them. Yes, some leting that Val do his things.

1043
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: I never want to underman mine a bad moment or

1044
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: a teachable moment in his eyes. And I've never been

1045
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: a boy before, but been a man, don't aspire to

1046
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: be one. So I'm like, listen, I'm going to let

1047
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, lean on you for those moments. So they

1048
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: got we got home. I'm thinking everything is okay, but

1049
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm noticing there's an air between Jackson and Deval. They're

1050
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: kind of passing each other the Vols pissed, you know.

1051
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: And then Jackson's kind of like walking through to because

1052
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: he's thirteen, so he's starting to feel himself a little right.

1053
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: So Deval leaves the gym sweaty, says he's going to

1054
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: take a shower. I said, all right, cool, I'll meet

1055
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: you upstairs. And then I hear like a rustling, tussling

1056
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: situation upstairs, and I'm like, these kids didn't go to

1057
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: bed dick Because I'm looking at the time, I'm like

1058
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: thinking it's hair own cash jumping off the bunk beds.

1059
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: Jackson and Devl from my point of view, are fighting,

1060
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: like physically fighting. So then my mom comes around the

1061
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: corner and she's like, we can't let this happen, and

1062
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: she's sprinting up the stairs and I'm like, Doesval what's

1063
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: going on? And as I'm like, literally, Jackson's on the floor,

1064
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: then Deval's on the floor, and they're fighting in my

1065
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: eyes and my mom's eyes. So we get upstairs and

1066
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: they go into Jackson's room and de Val closes the

1067
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: door and he was like, I'm having a moment with Jackson,

1068
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: leave us alone. So my mother busts through the door

1069
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: and she's like, you're not gonna do this.

1070
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 4: You're not doing this show my grandson.

1071
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: So de Val was just like, this is my house

1072
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna do what I want to do

1073
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: with my sons and if you can't respect that, and

1074
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, it became a thing, Sherry, right.

1075
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: So once everything calmed down after, Deval was like, did

1076
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: you really think that I was going to hurt our son.

1077
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: I've never raised the hand to you, never raised the

1078
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: hand to Our kids don't even get spanked. We're the

1079
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: parents that unlike what you said growing up, you don't

1080
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: look in the eye and you kind of just listen

1081
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: and you don't speak back. We have very candid, eye

1082
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: to eye locked in conversations with our boys. And he said,

1083
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: did you really think that I would do that? And

1084
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: I said, Deval, I said, I don't think you would

1085
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: do that. However, based on the tone for the day

1086
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: and what I heard and then seeing you guys looking

1087
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: like it wasn't like a little slack box and to me,

1088
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at y'all like y'all are tussling and fighting,

1089
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: and then he uses the relation between like a lion

1090
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: and a cub, and you know, the cub jumping on

1091
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: the lion and fighting him and then biting the lion,

1092
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: the daddy lion and guided lions like, oh my god,

1093
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm so hurt, so that the lion cub can feel empowered, like,

1094
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: oh I beat my dad. Wow.

1095
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 7: I said, if we were having a lion king moment,

1096
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 7: and if I was supposed to be so robbie, you

1097
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 7: should let me know what's happening, like, like, let me know, given,

1098
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 7: so I can keep mom at bay, and then I

1099
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 7: can stay at Basically, y'all can have y'all moment, child,

1100
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 7: because from I'm looking up in the stairways, what I'm seeing,

1101
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 7: I'm seeing you tussling with my baby. So the first thing,

1102
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 7: as a mom I'm gonna do is run to his

1103
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 7: defense exactly. So in that moment, it was just so

1104
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 7: funny to me because I'm like, I can't teach Jackson.

1105
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 3: Certain things I would have never known, and I would

1106
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: have never known that that was the process. I have

1107
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: never known that a boy needs to feel empowered and

1108
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: that is a way that he can be because I'm

1109
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: a woman.

1110
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: That is confidence, so I'm gonna fight.

1111
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 3: Oh exactly. I teach Jeffrey how to avoid conflict and

1112
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: that's literally what moms do.

1113
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: And then, of course we spoke to mom after and

1114
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: devout apologize for raising his vote and all that, but

1115
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: my mom was like, we teach them to diffuse situations.

1116
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: Especially as a young black man growing up in America.

1117
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: You don't want to be the antagonizer. And dev I

1118
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but you also don't want to be

1119
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: someone's doormat. You have to walk around with a persona

1120
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: and a confidence that people know, don't mess with me.

1121
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: And it starts even on the basketball court. I'm like,

1122
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I thought he was being a team player, Like,

1123
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 1: oh my gosh.

1124
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: That's why I'm at the basketball court when I see

1125
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 3: what I would see Jeffrey, and I'd be like, y'all

1126
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 3: talk to each other. Stop talking to each other like

1127
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: that be nice. And he was like, but that's that's

1128
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: the thing.

1129
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 4: That's it.

1130
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: You know why I had to allow men and I

1131
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: had to pray about that. Oh man, Lord put the

1132
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: right men in Jeffrey's life and you pray for the

1133
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 3: discernment to the discernment to allow them to you know,

1134
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: because I would have men that would say, Jeffrey, when

1135
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: I shake your hand, come on, look at.

1136
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 4: Me, tell me what your name is. Firm, I would say, oh, y'all.

1137
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 3: One a friend was teaching him, like how to ride

1138
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: a back and I was like, he can't ride that far.

1139
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: You talking about up the hills and downs and down

1140
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: the fact he only can go to a house. And

1141
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: then he came back. He was like, Mommy, we rode

1142
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: all the way to Kim Whitley's house. And I was like,

1143
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: that's ten of miles. What are you doing a match?

1144
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: And he was like he could do and do it.

1145
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: And men are the tears. Don't bother men. For us

1146
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: as mothers, we are that nurturing for sure, you know.

1147
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: And I've and it's speaking about that. We'll now we

1148
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: go home and go Jeffrey, come on, fight me, come on,

1149
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: fight me. He's gonna be right, this lady going on.

1150
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: But it's apparently like a known fact though, that when

1151
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: the boys are with their fathers that they get their oxytocin,

1152
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: which is that cuddle hormone, that that that yearn to

1153
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: be with their dad through play, fighting, playing sports, running

1154
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: and all that, whereas with moms they get that from

1155
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: cuddling and closeness and skin to skin. So it's a

1156
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: very different dynamic and.

1157
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: Serves such different purposes. See, he spent thirty days with

1158
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: his dad as camp counselor, and he didn't call me

1159
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: one time, And I was like, what did you and

1160
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: your daddy doing?

1161
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: Right?

1162
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: And his father was like, let I got him.

1163
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 3: He can do it. But see with you, bactly, he

1164
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: can't do it me.

1165
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: He won't do it, and they will. They will push that.

1166
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: Jackson's doing his laundry now, I said, you know, told

1167
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: my mom, I said, Jackson thirteen, I said, every Sunday

1168
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: or everybody wants to plan his schedule out. Yes, he's

1169
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: responsible for his laundry.

1170
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 7: Now.

1171
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: He already has so many responsibilities. And you're gonna make

1172
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: him do laundry too, Oh my goodness. But after I'm

1173
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: washing everybody's clothes, Why I can't just wash his close to,

1174
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: I said, Grandma, because you won't be at college to

1175
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: wash his draw wash. He needs to learn how to

1176
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: set rate, full drive, pack away and all that. Like

1177
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: we're trying to raise men so we're looking for a

1178
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: house for Mimi and Papa because we're like, listen, y'all

1179
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: are enabling these boys too much. And if the bell

1180
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: I got to fight them to get them to be men,

1181
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: because y'all hear, you know, waiting on them hand and foot,

1182
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna have to figure out how to make

1183
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: this work. Well, Jeffrey, how do you even told the

1184
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: line between being like friend disciplinarian parents? Like how do

1185
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: you you navigate that?

1186
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because.

1187
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: It seems like it's pretty difficult for you, Sherry.

1188
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: But you know it's funny.

1189
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: Because I've raised Jeffrey to speak sometimes. I didn't raised

1190
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: them to speak too much because I came from a

1191
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: place like when we say that's enough, you stop. Jeffrey's like, yeah,

1192
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: but Mom, why But you know, but I saw you

1193
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: do this, and I'm like, okay, now you're pulling up receipts, Jeffrey, Ah,

1194
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 3: you're pulling up receipts in the way I was. I can't, Oh,

1195
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 3: why do I let you have this freedom to talk

1196
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: to me?

1197
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: Baby?

1198
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: But you know it's so funny because I do feel

1199
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: like at some point Jeffrey and I we are close

1200
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: like that. We are close like friends, but he still

1201
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: knows I'm your mother, you know. And there's sometimes I'll

1202
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: let Jeffrey he wants to tell me a story, but

1203
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: they cursed, and I go, Jeffrey, you can curse. You

1204
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: can say the curse and you will fly with the

1205
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: curse words. And I'm like, Okay, now it's enough, Jeffrey.

1206
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: But Jeffrey will come and tell me when he you know,

1207
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: like a girl. He likes and we do, and I

1208
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: like him to talk because I say, Jeffrey, you got

1209
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: to tell me stuff because I can't protect you if

1210
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. And it keeps me involved. So I'm

1211
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: very thankful for that. But raising a boy is you

1212
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: know who I'm thankful for boy rather because girls are

1213
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: are something they have issues. But it has been such

1214
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: a it has been such a wonderful journey, and I've

1215
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 3: definitely needed God, you know, for me. With Jeffrey Darling.

1216
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: I let him use the bathroom. Will It took me

1217
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 3: a long time to let him go to the bathroom

1218
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 3: by himself. I find a man to go. Can you

1219
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: go in there and make sure my son.

1220
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: Is exactly baby, I'll I'm still trying to take Jackson

1221
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: to the woman's bathroom and he's like, Mom, I'm thirteen now,

1222
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: I said, just predators everywhere. Just with that.

1223
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 3: It was at about thirteen, Jeffrey said, I'm not going

1224
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 3: in there, mom, with the with the girls. And then

1225
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: somebody told me Jesus is always a comic. They say,

1226
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 3: you gotta let Jeffrey his pants aren't supposed to hang

1227
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 3: down fall to the floor.

1228
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 4: Sherry and I said, what are you talking about? Because

1229
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 4: they went in the tower.

1230
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 3: It was the town. He was like, he can't let

1231
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 3: his butt be showing in the puppy bathroom and I

1232
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: said I didn't know because I didn't want him.

1233
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 4: I was teaching him to aim for the cheerios the toilet.

1234
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: I didn't want the pants, and he so to go

1235
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: and down was like, Jeffrey, pull up your pants when

1236
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: you go to I said, well, a least I wouldn't

1237
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 3: like somebody else. And they made him sit on the

1238
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: toilet at.

1239
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 4: Lisa, Lisa can stand up girl.

1240
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: Let me say, we have a bathroom in our house

1241
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: that we call I call it the gas station bathroom

1242
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: because it's the one bathroom in the house that the

1243
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: boys and my dad used Austin. I never send guests

1244
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,479
Speaker 1: there or anything. I will never know what you're gonna

1245
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: walk in to sit on, you know. So that's the

1246
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: gas station bathroom I make.

1247
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: Jeffrey he washes his clothes by himself, except he always

1248
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: throws it. He never takes. I keep saying, check the dryer,

1249
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 3: because my stuff is in there. Girl. He then threw

1250
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: towels in there with my stuff, his clothes. Ohtak My

1251
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: stuff then shrunk. But he cleans his bathroom every Saturday.

1252
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: He's got a bucket and the gloves. And I make

1253
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: because I said, you're not gonna have some woman saying

1254
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: to you, you're nasty ass, quick.

1255
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: To blame, blame us, to blame the mother devalles miss,

1256
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: the social butterfly. And you know there's a select few

1257
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: of people that he will invite by the house. And

1258
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: I said, can you at least give me a head

1259
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: up when someone's coming by a so I'm not just

1260
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: in my braw right. And then too, because if someone

1261
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: comes to your house and you're not accommodating, you're not

1262
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: a good host, or things are out of place, they're

1263
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: not gonna blame you the exactly you as if I'm

1264
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: not over here juggling all the things you've been working out.

1265
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 3: Sherry, though, girl just came from the gym. You see here,

1266
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: you've been locked in. I've been locked in.

1267
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: Was like a turning point for you where you were

1268
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: just like, O, I got to lock in. I know

1269
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: you struggle with the diabetes thing, and you know all

1270
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: that get in controlled, so locked into your health.

1271
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get locked into my health because, Jeffrey said,

1272
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: because I'm also a type two diabetic, diabetes runs in

1273
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: my family. You know I have, We've lost family members

1274
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 3: to diabetes, and so I'm very passionate about that. And

1275
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: I just realized. Jeffrey said to me one time, Kaden,

1276
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 3: I think I was eating a candy bar or something

1277
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: because I was stressed out. I'm a stress eater. And

1278
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: he said, Mommy, Mommy, if you die, who's going to

1279
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: be my bodyguard?

1280
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: Oh? No?

1281
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: And I said what? Because when I eat chocolate raising

1282
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: my blood sugar and then I get eared of bil.

1283
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you talking about? He goes,

1284
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: if you die, who's going to take care of me?

1285
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: And that really hit me, wow, because I lost my

1286
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: mother when I was in my early twenties. Twenty two

1287
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 3: she was forty one. Wow, she was very young when

1288
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: she passed away, and she left a girl to raise

1289
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: her two sisters who didn't know what she was doing.

1290
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what I was doing by myself, but

1291
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: I had to learn to learn because my mother was

1292
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: not there. And I love people who have their mothers

1293
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: in their lives. There's so many times I would love

1294
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: to call my mother and go, what do I do?

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: Well?

1296
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: We could be friends now, but I'm very passionate about

1297
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 3: my health because to me, it's like it ain't about

1298
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: fitting in a size six gens or putting on a bikini.

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Speaker 3: It's literally I look at that boy, Jeffrey, and I go,

1300
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: I need to be here. We were talking about because

1301
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: my father has dementia and he's in a facility that

1302
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: we care for him. And I said, Jeffrey, I was

1303
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 3: explaining what Alzheimer's was, and he said, so that means

1304
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: you might not remember me?

1305
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 4: And I said, no, no, Jeffrey, I don't.

1306
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't have that. He said, oh good, because I

1307
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: don't know what I would do if you couldn't remember me.

1308
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: And it was just like it was again those moment confirmation, Sure,

1309
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: you gotta do whatever you can do to take care

1310
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: of your health, and then you're trusting in God for sure.

1311
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: I'm so you know at this age, girl, welcome to

1312
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 3: the club. You're gonna be wiser, not say no, it's

1313
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: all those great things, but it's also then you're gonna

1314
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: realize your muscle start to melt. Unless you do heavyweight, anyweight,

1315
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: you gonna have more protein in your life. It's like

1316
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: my timeline on Instagram is not feel.

1317
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 4: With people who like okay SOUTHIEK.

1318
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: My timeline is you need more magnesium, you need potassium.

1319
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 3: These are the foot exercises you do when you wake up,

1320
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 3: just lower backstretches. Just when you got your hips is

1321
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: too tight. I'm like, oh my god, I ain't gonna

1322
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 3: be to use my hips just sex. Like that's what

1323
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: my timeline is. It's like all of like this is

1324
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: what you should say, like low carbs, high protein.

1325
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: That is what my right before you came in down

1326
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: like I don't get my side bowl because you know,

1327
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: thank you, we can't even eat the things when you

1328
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: said I ordered French toast and bacon this morning for him.

1329
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: He had one bite and that was it.

1330
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Speaker 3: That's it. Now Now it's like it's it's about taking

1331
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Speaker 3: care of your health.

1332
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Speaker 4: And it's internally internally.

1333
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: So it's great the perks I being able to wear

1334
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: great things, but if you're not internally.

1335
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Speaker 1: Feeling good, that's a fact.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to take care of everybody else. It's hard

1337
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 3: to deal with with, you know, because Black women are

1338
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 3: having more heart attacks because of stress and and because my.

1339
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: Mom hell and that's stress and too young. Stress and

1340
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: stress induce because we as.

1341
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Speaker 3: Black women, we handle so much. We have to take

1342
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: care of our immediate family and then the rest of

1343
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 3: the family. And if you the one that has made it,

1344
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: everybody calls.

1345
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: You know what, I call myself elmer, and that's it

1346
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: the glue, because you're holding everybody and that's very, very stressful.

1347
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 3: I go through it with my family. I go through it,

1348
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: you know, and then people who just need you and

1349
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 3: call on you, and.

1350
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: It's like and it's the desire to want to be

1351
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: there to show up for them. However you can't because.

1352
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: You feel guilty that you made it, and then you're

1353
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: doing it's just so many of we're still trying to

1354
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 3: make a girl still and when people from my family

1355
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: like girl can cuzzo.

1356
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Speaker 4: That's what cuzzo, Auntie. I'm like this what I got

1357
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 4: to do with this money?

1358
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: This money, this money, But we have to treat our

1359
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: bodies special in order to even deal with stress. And

1360
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: so I just said, you know what, Sherry, I don't

1361
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: want to be the person that wishes I would have

1362
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: prioritized my health or wishes I would have done things different.

1363
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 3: Why don't I do it now? And every day I

1364
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: say God, thank you for giving me another chance to

1365
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: get this right. And it's not like I was at

1366
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: a place where I didn't like going to the gym,

1367
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: and I said, I want to get to that place

1368
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: where I yearned for the gym. I want to get

1369
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: to that place where it's like So I've even changed

1370
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: my the way I speak, because I used to always say, oh,

1371
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: I hate going to the gym, but I gotta do it.

1372
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Speaker 3: Now I go. Lord, thank you for giving me the

1373
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 3: opportunity to treat my body right. Thank you for for

1374
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 3: the ability to move. Thank you that you blessing me

1375
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 3: to lift these weights. Lord, blessed me to have a

1376
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: good time when I go to the gym, because it's

1377
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: some stuff. I'm just like, there's this one that you

1378
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 3: got to do for your booty come down exactly.

1379
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have heard tight for me, my

1380
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: hip flexes be too tight. And I was like, you've

1381
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: been stretching lately, though, I said, how could you tell.

1382
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 3: Them? Hip flexes ain't nothing.

1383
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 4: It's like last Tuesday, I can't open.

1384
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: Lex and when the lower back starts to hurt in

1385
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: the lower at the.

1386
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: Point now where we even go to hotels, and I'm

1387
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: like that bed was a good babys a bad matcher

1388
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: when I tell you so.

1389
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: And even when I go to barbecue's family functions, you

1390
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 3: know when you used to do them little things and

1391
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: you tell your nieces, I can do a back bed, baby,

1392
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: I'm went like this, and I said, oh oh oh,

1393
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 3: we can't do the bridge.

1394
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Now, I can't do a split like I used.

1395
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: I try to do a little round off, but I said, ooh,

1396
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Speaker 3: my wrisk.

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01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: No no, no, this a couple of days to recover

1398
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: from one things.

1399
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 3: So, yes, health is important to me because also to

1400
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 3: do what God has called you to do, you've got

1401
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 3: to be healthy.

1402
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: It's part of the process. It's part of what he's

1403
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: requiring from you as well.

1404
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: Because it's gonna take a lot of energy to walk

1405
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: in that purpose, yes, and he don't want you breathing

1406
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,959
Speaker 3: hard and you can't tie your shoe, and you sitting

1407
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: there feeling like, oh my gosh, that's not what his will.

1408
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 5: Is for you.

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: It's for you to be healthy. And so I'm just like,

1410
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: make the changes now, sharey, so that when you so

1411
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: you can proudly say I'm.

1412
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: Fifties, then you're gonna be like, I'm seventy seven.

1413
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: Grand follow women. I follow women at the seventy eight

1414
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: me Girlnaty dancing any draws. I'm like this, old ladies

1415
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: that's seventy eight years old. Be like muchels lean all that.

1416
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 8: When I'm telling you, girl, So, as we wrap things up,

1417
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 8: who would you say your career or your life so

1418
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 8: far has been a love letter to.

1419
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I would say Jeffrey. Of course everybody knows.

1420
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: But I would say my mother because my mother never

1421
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 3: got to see this. My mother saw the struggle. My

1422
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: mother saw me because she was she was so sick.

1423
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 3: So I would have to drive from La to San Bernardino,

1424
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: which is an hour and a half every night to

1425
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: drive her around because that's the only way she would

1426
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 3: go to sleep for hours. I would drive my mother around.

1427
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 3: I was always with her at the hospital, and so

1428
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: then I would drive back to LA because I had

1429
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 3: to go to work, and then I had to hit

1430
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: a comedy club at nighttime. So she's my mother saw

1431
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: that the struggle. So when I do things, I do

1432
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: it because I go, mam, can you see me?

1433
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 4: Sometimes I go Laverne and I go ooh, I'm sorry.

1434
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: I just want to try answer mine. I want to

1435
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: see if I can use your first name. But I

1436
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: do it for my mother because she just didn't get

1437
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: to see this. And I hope that she's looking and

1438
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: she's very proud of me, and I hope that she's

1439
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: proud of me as a mother and as a sister.

1440
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: And you know, do you think she'd be surprised that

1441
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: like her little shy Sherry or did she get to

1442
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: see Sherry being a little bit more ongoing before her passing.

1443
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: I hope that, I you know, it's really because I

1444
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: lost her so early, we never got to the friendship

1445
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: portion we still were at the I was the child,

1446
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: you're the mother, and I became the caretaker, so I

1447
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: never really got to see who my mother was as

1448
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: a woman. My mother gave up everything, Like my dad

1449
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 3: slept with my mother on a dare. He was a jock.

1450
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 3: She was very studious and very shy, didn't talk to

1451
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: anybody from six kids, and it was a dare that

1452
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 3: because she had a crush on her. It was a dare.

1453
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: But she got pregnant the very first time. Wow, And

1454
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 3: everybody wanted her to aboord, thank you Lord. She did not,

1455
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: and she was forced to get married to my dad.

1456
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 4: I have pictures.

1457
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: I found pictures of her, and she looked so scared

1458
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: at eighteen years old, and her mother in law looked

1459
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: a because my mother in law didn't like it, just

1460
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 3: was looking at it like you ain't good enough on

1461
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 3: my side, So telling the pictures and she was so scared,

1462
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 3: and so she wanted to be a doctor, and she

1463
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: never got. She stayed and she took care of her family,

1464
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 3: her three girls, but she never got to fulfill her dreams.

1465
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,479
Speaker 3: Which is why I'm so passionate about for my show,

1466
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: wanting to inspire women to take hold of a dream

1467
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 3: that you put on the fine with the fine china

1468
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: on that shelf, and it's been dusty, and you've been scared,

1469
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 3: and that thing on your face like this says, who

1470
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: do you think? Who do you think you are? Yeah,

1471
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: it's like you're not You're not good enough, you're not

1472
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: smart enough, you're too fat, you're too skinny, you're not

1473
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 3: that voice, and you never reached for it. And because

1474
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: of my mom, I want to inspire women that we

1475
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: see you, that life is short. Try it. I always say,

1476
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: on the other side of fear are we're all the

1477
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: blessings lines. So I do this really for my mother.

1478
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 3: Laverne era shepherd maiden named worried. Wow, that's beautiful my mommy.

1479
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Yeah, I'm sure mom is up there. Just

1480
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: that's my baby.

1481
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 4: I hope it.

1482
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 3: Girl. Everybody keeps saying, you know, I asked got when

1483
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 3: I see a white butterfly, Kim Whitley says this all

1484
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 3: the time. When I see a white butterfly, I know

1485
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 3: that's my mother. That people always say. You know.

1486
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 4: I heard the song and I knew that was my mother,

1487
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 4: and I go, Lord, can you bless my mother to

1488
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 4: do something?

1489
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: Give me a sign.

1490
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 4: I slipped and sail and had a light pole.

1491
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 6: I was like, that's my dead MoMA. I told you

1492
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 6: not to walk that way. Tabitha Brown has the dimes.

1493
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 6: Have you heard the story about her brown has done.

1494
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1495
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: I always I always ask my grandmother too, because I

1496
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: lost one in March and another one years before I

1497
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: got a little before I got married, And I always like,

1498
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: just visit me in my dreams. Do something, bit me,

1499
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 1: do something, do something, show me something.

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Speaker 3: I'm always going, Mama, how do I handle this situation?

1501
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 3: It'll be silent, and I'm like, Lord, can you just

1502
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 3: I know she's having a good time up there, just say,

1503
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 3: just tell Sherry Needer for a little just a little bit,

1504
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: cause she come away from the party for a minute, just.

1505
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: A little bit. She's having a grando time.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: And in the vein of of course, this is a

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Speaker 1: day with k But you know, of course dead ass

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Speaker 1: is the brand for us. Tell me something you're.

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Speaker 3: Dead ass about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're in New York, you know what the

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Speaker 1: phrase means. So I'm dead ass about.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm dead ass about living lighte and enjoying

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Speaker 3: every moment and being present to every moment I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm like dad ass about really making a difference, whether

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Speaker 3: it be a smile, whether it be just talking to somebody.

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Speaker 3: That's what it is all about for me. It's like life,

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Speaker 3: if we didn't learn anything from being in the house

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Speaker 3: for almost two years and losing people that we love,

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Speaker 3: it's to step out and do things bigger and to

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Speaker 3: dream bigger, Like what else can we How can we

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Speaker 3: be of service and love? That's what I'm about this

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Speaker 3: political season. It's like, we gotta we got to infuse

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Speaker 3: more love in all the in this whole political season

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Speaker 3: because when we are losing it, And that's what I'm

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Speaker 3: Dad asked about about, how can I how can I love?

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Speaker 3: How can I be of service? And just love may

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Speaker 3: make people feel better?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is one of those moments. This is one

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Speaker 1: of those moments where I thank you, Sherry. You have

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Speaker 1: no idea what this means to me, because it's not

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Speaker 1: often that you find women who can can can build together,

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Speaker 1: who can grow together, who can mentor each other and

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Speaker 1: not feel threatened by each other, but just love on

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Speaker 1: each other in whatever process is. Because I'm a firm

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Speaker 1: believer that what God has in place for me is

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Speaker 1: always gonna be for me. It's not nobody's gonna take it,

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna take it.

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Speaker 3: Reason to be threatened, because He's got a purpose for

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Speaker 3: everybody everyone. There is a uniqueness about you, KaDee that

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Speaker 3: I don't have, but what I have you don't have exactly,

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Speaker 3: and he's going to use it all because he gave

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Speaker 3: it to us. So it's like I love because I've

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Speaker 3: been through women who wouldn't support me, who I've asked,

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Speaker 3: can you tell me? I'm trying to do this talk show.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know how much money to ask for

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Speaker 3: and what to do and how to navigate. I feel

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Speaker 3: like I will share that when you get a deal

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Speaker 3: and you want to call me and go, Sherry, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if this is the money I'm supposed to go. Girl,

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Speaker 3: here's what.

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Speaker 4: You no not before, not you, but somebody who's coming on.

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Speaker 3: How much money make you ain't none of your business, right,

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Speaker 3: but doing what you do, I'm going I gotta tell

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Speaker 3: you because this is and then you're gonna tell the

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Speaker 3: next person the person word. We gotta pays forward.

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Speaker 1: That's how we think.

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Speaker 3: So we have to support each other. It's to you

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Speaker 3: can't be like this and get blessed. It has to

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Speaker 3: be like this because you got to step up away, y'all.

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Speaker 4: You know Oprah when she gave me like she was

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Speaker 4: like I'm passing the torch to you.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that was your first story, you said

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Speaker 1: for story show.

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Speaker 3: But it's like you, it's it's it's your time, and

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Speaker 3: what what what would it be fit me to be

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Speaker 3: trying to block you. I'd rather be helping you. And

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Speaker 3: God remembers that. So when I get in it and

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Speaker 3: I'm like on the cusp because Saint Peter won't let

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Speaker 3: me bring.

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Speaker 5: Her one back and be like I helped her, and

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Speaker 5: I'll I'll be from below like she okay, well, so

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Speaker 5: any anything, I love.

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Speaker 1: You so much for you for this time. I had

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Speaker 1: to cut it because it's like we could talk.

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Speaker 3: Through this day. You're gonna get this from everybody. This

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Speaker 3: is not just gonna be me. It's because you're so

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Speaker 3: good and you allow people to feel comfortable and be

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Speaker 3: I've never talked about my mom like this. You allow

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Speaker 3: people to be comfortable and wherever they're at, that's what

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Speaker 3: you bring. You bring a peace, you bring a comfort,

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Speaker 3: you bring a sister girl.

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Speaker 8: I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's the energy that I feel. So I guess it

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Speaker 1: makes sense that when you are around people, you could

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Speaker 1: feel that energy and space to open up. And I

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Speaker 1: don't take that for girl.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for what God is going to do for you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that I don't even want to let me,

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Speaker 3: let me thank you so much. Of course, A day

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Speaker 3: with k Baby.

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Speaker 1: Sherry Shepherd's.

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Speaker 2: Dead Ass is a production of Eye Hard Media podcast

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Speaker 2: Network and is produced by Donor Pinya and Tribble. Follow

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