WEBVTT - TechStuff's Spooky Halloween Spectacular!

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. M Hey the everybody, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to text Stuff. I am your host, Jonathan strictly executive

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<v Speaker 1>vampire here at how Stuff Works. Happy Halloween if you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this on Halloween. Otherwise, that was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>possible introduction I could have given for this episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>I I should feel badly about it, but I don't. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>But in celebration of Halloween, we are going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at spooky thick or you know, scary tech,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least some technology that could at least be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of creepy. See here's the problem running into y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already done an episode about tech in Haunted House Attraction,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's finished. I already did one on ghost hunting

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<v Speaker 1>technology years ago where I gave a skeptical view of

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<v Speaker 1>what all that was about. And sooner or later, after

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<v Speaker 1>you do a few years of a technology podcast, you

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<v Speaker 1>start to run out of the fun stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So for this episode, I turned to the house Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works website and I pulled up a classic article, which

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<v Speaker 1>is also always a dangerous thing when you're talking technology.

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<v Speaker 1>But this article is titled ten scary modern technologies. It

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<v Speaker 1>was co written by David Ruse and my former editor

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<v Speaker 1>and Tech Stuff co host Chris Pallette. So get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for some tech that goes bump in the night, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually, to be more serious, the technology I'm listing

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<v Speaker 1>here does not fall into the supernatural or ghostly categories

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<v Speaker 1>at all. The technology represents stuff that could be unsettling

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<v Speaker 1>or at worst could call as massive enormous problems due

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<v Speaker 1>to overreach or unintended consequences. So there are some serious

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<v Speaker 1>entries in here, even though I'm having a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of fun with the presentation. So let us get started.

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<v Speaker 1>Number ten on the list hollow Sonics and the Audio

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<v Speaker 1>Spotlight System. This is more in the creepy, unsettling vein

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<v Speaker 1>technology that focuses sound. That's what this is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's focusing sound into a narrow beam, which provides the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for ultra targeted sound for stuff like advertising. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily creepy, but not necessarily welcome either. But imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that you're walking through a store and just as you're

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<v Speaker 1>passing in front of a certain store item, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>it's cookie crisp cereal, and you start hearing a voice

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<v Speaker 1>whispering to you, Hey, that cookie crisp looks pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>It might seem really weird, this little disembodied voice, and

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as you get past a certain point, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't hear it anymore. You just have this experience. As

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through the store, you keep hearing these targeted

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<v Speaker 1>sounds in very narrow spots, and as soon as you're

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<v Speaker 1>out of those spots, you can't hear it. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>pretty creepy, right, Well, how does it work well? According

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<v Speaker 1>to the company, the secret is in the size of

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<v Speaker 1>the sound waves compared to the size of the sound source.

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<v Speaker 1>The company states that if you have a sound source

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<v Speaker 1>that is much larger than the comparable size of the

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<v Speaker 1>sound waves it's producing, you get more directionality out of

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<v Speaker 1>your sound, so you can focus it more like a beam.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were to create loudspeakers that are much much,

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<v Speaker 1>much larger than the sound waves they're producing, and sound

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<v Speaker 1>waves can measure from a few inches up to several

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<v Speaker 1>feet in size, you could direct those sound waves in

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<v Speaker 1>a beam, more like a directional beam, rather than having

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<v Speaker 1>them propagate outward in all equal directions. But that would

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<v Speaker 1>not work very well for something like targeted advertising, because

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to have these enormous speakers perched behind

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<v Speaker 1>the cheerios, and that would be very distracting. So this

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<v Speaker 1>company has gone with an approach that has these devices

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<v Speaker 1>producing ultrasonic beams of sound. Ultrasonic sound ways are very

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<v Speaker 1>very tiny. They're also normally imperceptible, at least directly. They

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<v Speaker 1>are imperceptible to us. We cannot hear in this frequency.

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<v Speaker 1>They do have a very strong directionality as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of the way they are generated. Uh So, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the company, as the ultrasonic beam travels through the air,

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<v Speaker 1>the inherent properties of the air caused the ultrasound to

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<v Speaker 1>change shape in a predictable way. This gives rise to

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<v Speaker 1>frequency components in the audible band which can be accurately

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<v Speaker 1>predicted and therefore precisely controlled. By generating the correct ultrasonic signal,

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<v Speaker 1>we can create within the air itself any sound desired. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, it's the interaction of these ultrasonic frequencies

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<v Speaker 1>with the air itself that causes the ultrasonic frequencies to change,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you produce these audible frequencies. And because this

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<v Speaker 1>is all very controllable in a predictable environment, you can

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<v Speaker 1>produce whatever sounds you want. This is based off the

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<v Speaker 1>work of an inventor named Woody Norris. He demonstrated this

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<v Speaker 1>technology at a TED talk in the early two thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather than generating the audible sound on the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the speaker as a traditional speaker would, where the speakers

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<v Speaker 1>moving a diaphragm in and out and pushing air around,

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<v Speaker 1>the ultrasonic emitter creates a column of the air itself

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<v Speaker 1>to act like a speaker, which is pretty nifty. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I meant spooky. Number nine DNA hacking. So back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand three, scientists finished mapping out the human genome.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was obviously just the beginning. That's just uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a long list of base pairs um. Next came the

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<v Speaker 1>work to examine the genome closely and determine which bait

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<v Speaker 1>base pairs in the more than three billion pairs that

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<v Speaker 1>make up the human genome are responsible for different stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like our uh possibility of developing a disease, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you could determine that, and if you could

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<v Speaker 1>determine a way of changing that part of the DNA

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<v Speaker 1>so that it's eliminated, maybe you could make someone not

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<v Speaker 1>develop that disease. You could potentially wipe out certain diseases.

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<v Speaker 1>And beyond that, what about hacking the human genome so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can create designer human beings, human beings who

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<v Speaker 1>have traits that we consider to be superior. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff of lots of science fiction and horror cautionary tales,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like Gattica saying, yeah, but who gets to decide

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<v Speaker 1>what is superior? And what happens to people who aren't

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<v Speaker 1>able to take advantage of that technology, and what happens

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<v Speaker 1>to the people who do take advantage of that technology.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of ethical questions around it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that, there are other scary things to consider. DNA

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<v Speaker 1>hacking could allow for individually focused biological warfare. So imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that you're living in a world and someone can get

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<v Speaker 1>access to your DNA. Maybe they get a skin sample

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<v Speaker 1>or some hair or something. They're able to get something

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<v Speaker 1>from you that has traces of your DNA in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're able to analyze your DNA and see what

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<v Speaker 1>makes you you and look for any vulnerabilities. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>find out that you have a predisposed weakness to a

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<v Speaker 1>particular type of virus and then the engineer a virus

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<v Speaker 1>to attack you. Specifically. That was actually the premise of

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<v Speaker 1>a two thousand twelve article in The Atlantic, and that

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<v Speaker 1>article hypothesized the future in which the President of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States could be targeted and assassinated through the use

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<v Speaker 1>of a particularly nasty virus that was Taylor made for

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<v Speaker 1>the aden yikes. Or imagine more than that, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>widespread plague unless Stephen King's the stand engineered through a

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<v Speaker 1>deep understanding of DNA paired with a really crappy containment strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>So how realistic is all of that? Well, in the

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<v Speaker 1>short term, it's probably not terribly realistic. It's certainly possible,

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<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily plausible. But it does require a deep

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of DNA and a means to manipulate it easily

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<v Speaker 1>in order to pay it off. We've seen some advances

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<v Speaker 1>in those areas. There are a lot more ways that

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<v Speaker 1>we can manipulate DNA than there used to be, but

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly easy to do. It's easy, year, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a matter of degrees. However, you can make a

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<v Speaker 1>convincing argument that it would not require too deep and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding to cause real harm. Unintentionally, and that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a very difficult argument to counter. And while DNA hacking

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<v Speaker 1>could produce all sorts of different futuristic results, we do

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<v Speaker 1>already have a culture of bio hackers also sometimes known

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<v Speaker 1>as grinders, who have taken body alteration to new places.

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<v Speaker 1>These folks are not working on a DNA level, They're

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<v Speaker 1>not changing themselves fundamentally in that way. Instead, they're doing alterations,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, upgrades. So one example would be there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who have chosen to have small magnets implanted under

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<v Speaker 1>the skin of their fingertips. Say, these little nubby magnets

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<v Speaker 1>sticking out on their fingertips kind of weird, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the purpose of that. Well, because of the effects

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<v Speaker 1>of magnetism and electromagnetism, they would actually be able to

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<v Speaker 1>sense when they were near magnetic or electromagnetic fields. So

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be kind of like Spider Man's spiky sense. They'd

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<v Speaker 1>feel tugging on their fingertips as they passed through it.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of detecting danger like Spider Man would, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be able to tell like whether or not electricity was

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<v Speaker 1>flowing through a conductor, for example, because you could bring

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<v Speaker 1>your fingers close to that conductor. Maybe it's some wires.

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<v Speaker 1>You bring your fingers close and if you start feeling

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<v Speaker 1>the pulses from an alternating magnetic field of fluctuating magnetic field,

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<v Speaker 1>that would tell you, oh, electricity, alternating current is flowing

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<v Speaker 1>through here, because I can feel it in my fingertips.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be something you normally would not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to feel. So you kind of have a sixth sense

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<v Speaker 1>due to having these magnets implanted in your fingertips. And

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<v Speaker 1>people have actually done this, however, a word of caution.

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<v Speaker 1>From what I understand, these operations are pretty painful. They

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<v Speaker 1>usually are not done with an esthetic. There's not really

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<v Speaker 1>a place you can go that's medically you know, license

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<v Speaker 1>to do this because it's not a it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>standard medical procedure. As far as I know, there are

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<v Speaker 1>no accredited medical facilities that do it. I think any

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<v Speaker 1>doctor who did practice this would have uh the danger

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<v Speaker 1>of being barred from practice. So you're usually talk about

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneuring body modification specialists, you know, like piercers, who will

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<v Speaker 1>do this kind of operation. And anytime you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>introducing something foreign to the body, you're also raising other

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<v Speaker 1>risks like infection. So you've got to be super duper

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<v Speaker 1>careful about that kind of thing. In other words, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna find me putting magnets under my fingertips anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Number eight on the list cyber war Oh boy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the scenario the article specifically lays out is an all

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<v Speaker 1>out cyber warfare attack where one nation targets another nation's infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's power grid system or water system. And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S Department of Homeland Security has reported that

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<v Speaker 1>there's lots of evidence to show that various hackers have

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<v Speaker 1>infiltrated critical infrastructure with such tactics like Russian hackers and

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<v Speaker 1>the things like power plants and gas pipelines. And that's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>And before that report had even made the news that

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<v Speaker 1>was in security experts have for years been warning that

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese hackers have been infiltrating American infrastructure. CNN reported on

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<v Speaker 1>that back in two thousand and fourteen. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly a new story. It's a continuing story that

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<v Speaker 1>continues to be really problematic and concerning. So the infiltration

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<v Speaker 1>part is a reality. We know for a fact hackers

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<v Speaker 1>from other countries have infiltrated various systems there have been

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<v Speaker 1>traces found of their activities, so we know that there

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<v Speaker 1>have at least been people snooping around our systems. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not they've installed anything to help shut stuff down

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<v Speaker 1>as another matter, but they've definitely been there, and they

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to have been there from places like Russia and China.

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<v Speaker 1>That does not automatically mean that the infiltration was state directed,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, that it was a government backed project,

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<v Speaker 1>but that seems to be the general role. Consensus is

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<v Speaker 1>that these were likely the activities of a state back

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<v Speaker 1>group of hackers. What about shutting everything down? Is that realistic? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be more challenging to do, but not necessarily impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>Many utilities have started installing self healing systems. Self healing

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<v Speaker 1>system isn't quite as cool as it sounds like. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's Wolverine and infrastructure form, but it does

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<v Speaker 1>involve having a system that when it detects problems, automatically

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<v Speaker 1>tries to reroute services to get around those problems. So

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<v Speaker 1>with a power grid, it might be if a smart

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<v Speaker 1>power grid system detects that there's a short that some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's a a break in connectivity at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>it may try to reroute power to work around that

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible. That could help confound a cyber

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<v Speaker 1>warfare attack a little bit. At least it might mitigate

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<v Speaker 1>the impact of an attack, um though preventing one entirely

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not. But then there are also attacks on other systems,

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<v Speaker 1>not just power grids and and water and gas, which

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<v Speaker 1>are all scary enough. But there's the evidence that showed

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<v Speaker 1>Russian hackers were targeting election systems in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to the twenty sixteen elections. I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this in a recent episode of Tech Stuff, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go all the way through it again. But

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<v Speaker 1>the really insidious thing about those attacks is they don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have to be super successful to be effective. If

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<v Speaker 1>you can so doubt in the minds of a nation's

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<v Speaker 1>citizens as to the validity of any given election, you

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<v Speaker 1>have undermined the very foundation of that nation's government. A

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<v Speaker 1>government that doesn't have the confidence of its population is

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<v Speaker 1>on shaky ground and has to move more and more

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<v Speaker 1>towards totalitarianism in order to maintain power. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any confidence that your system works, then you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any confidence in your government at all. So cyber

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<v Speaker 1>war is something that is continuing right now. It is

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<v Speaker 1>actually happening. It is already in place. And obviously I've

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<v Speaker 1>given examples of how the US has been the target

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<v Speaker 1>of cyber warfare, but don't forget the US has engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in it too. We're not, you know, the United States

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<v Speaker 1>has not been just the poor victim in all these cases.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States has certainly played a hand in cyber

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<v Speaker 1>warfare activities. One example would be stuck s net, the

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<v Speaker 1>computer virus that was designed to sabotage uranium enrichment facilities

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<v Speaker 1>in Iran. So this is not something that everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is doing and the United States is the victim. This

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<v Speaker 1>is something that everyone is doing as much as they

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<v Speaker 1>can and stepping it up as much as they can. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot more scary technology to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need to have a sip of tea to

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<v Speaker 1>comfort myself. Let's take a quick break to thank our sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>Number seven is the technological singularity. Now, out of all

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<v Speaker 1>the science fiction ideas I find particular liarly interesting, this

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<v Speaker 1>one ranks near the top of them. The singularity refers

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<v Speaker 1>to a general concept that could be brought about in

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<v Speaker 1>several different ways, but from a very high level. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea goes something like this. Imagine that technology has advanced

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<v Speaker 1>to the point that the newest stuff coming out is

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<v Speaker 1>already designing the next generation of stuff. And imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>the gaps between these generations are getting smaller and smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually you reach a point where the present is

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<v Speaker 1>defined by constant change, and that's the only way you

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<v Speaker 1>can define it. Because things change so quickly it is

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<v Speaker 1>almost impossible to describe the present in any coherent way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how quickly everything is evolving. The thing that would

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<v Speaker 1>fuel this would be the emergence of superhuman intelligence in

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<v Speaker 1>most of the scenarios that involve the technological singularity. However,

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<v Speaker 1>that would not necessarily require just, uh, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>computer AI. That's one possible version is pure artificial intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>that has superhuman capabilities and processing information. This is your

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<v Speaker 1>basic deep thought from the Hitchecker's Guide to the Galaxy

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<v Speaker 1>or sky Net from the terminator that scenario. This would

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<v Speaker 1>be a scenario in which we humans have created an

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<v Speaker 1>AI so powerful we are unable to control it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it goes on to redefine our world in ways

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<v Speaker 1>that we could not anticipate because we cannot operate on

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<v Speaker 1>the same level as this superhuman intelligence, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the only pathway to the technological singularity. Another

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<v Speaker 1>way might be that humans find a way to boost

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<v Speaker 1>our own intelligence and thus we evolve beyond what we

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally think of as being human. We might do this

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<v Speaker 1>through a deeper understanding of biology. We could boost our

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence that way, going back to the concept of d

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<v Speaker 1>n A hacking and things related to that. Or it

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<v Speaker 1>might involve using technology to create cyborg like beings where

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<v Speaker 1>we merge with technology on some level, and with tech

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<v Speaker 1>and biology working to get other we boost our intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>to new levels and achieve superhuman intelligence that way. So

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line, is this a possibility, Well, it beats me.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are a lot of super smart people who

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<v Speaker 1>are on either side of this issue. So some people

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<v Speaker 1>say the singularity is essentially a foregone conclusion. It will happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The only question is when will it happen. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are other people who say there might be some fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>barriers that were not likely to get over and those

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<v Speaker 1>barriers will block the singularity from ever happening. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the frequent criticisms of various UH singularity scenarios is that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it rests on the belief that we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see progress continue on a pace that's similar to

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<v Speaker 1>what Moore's law has observed with computer processing power. And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is that pace may not be realistic or

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable or even applicable to some technologies. So Moore's law

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<v Speaker 1>applies to uh to the processing power of computers generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>but they may not apply to other elements that would

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<v Speaker 1>be necessary to bring about superhuman intelligence, because processing power

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<v Speaker 1>by itself is not intelligence. You also have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the software side. You've got a lot of other pieces

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<v Speaker 1>that have to be in place. However, if it is possible,

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<v Speaker 1>it could very well mean the end of the human

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<v Speaker 1>race as we know it today. Now that doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's the end of humanity entirely. It just may

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<v Speaker 1>mean that humanity will transition into something different, So it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a new beginning. It's not necessarily the end

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<v Speaker 1>of everything, but still spooky. Number six Google Glass, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that was the number on the on the article Google.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember Google glass, the augmented reality glasses. Back when

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<v Speaker 1>Chris and Dave were working on this article, Google glass

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<v Speaker 1>was still a real thing. It was it was poised

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<v Speaker 1>to become an actual, a consumer product outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>relatively small sample of bleeding edge adopters a k a.

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<v Speaker 1>Glass holes. We were sometimes called that because I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. I had a pair of Google glass

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<v Speaker 1>The glasses were part augmented reality headset, part user interface

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<v Speaker 1>for the world around you. They included a camera which

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<v Speaker 1>could pull in information, and a Bluetooth chips so the

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<v Speaker 1>glasses could communicate with a paired mobile device, and through

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<v Speaker 1>that mobile device, the glasses could also pair information like

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<v Speaker 1>GPS coordinates. So these glasses, while giving you potentially incredible

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<v Speaker 1>access to information about the world around you, could also

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<v Speaker 1>gather information about the world around you for the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of Google. And suddenly this company could potentially access information

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<v Speaker 1>from cameras mounted on faces all over the world. And

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<v Speaker 1>the glasses also had microphones, because you know, you could

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<v Speaker 1>use voice commands to make your glasses do stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>that also meant that in very Google could listen in

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<v Speaker 1>as well, not just see everything, but here thing, which

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<v Speaker 1>raises some big privacy concerns, not just for the people

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the glasses, but for everyone around those people. And

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<v Speaker 1>Google makes money with information, so you would effectively be

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<v Speaker 1>generating product for Google to sell. By wearing a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of those glasses and walking around everywhere, Google would be

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<v Speaker 1>the head of a big surveillance state, far more invasive

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<v Speaker 1>than a network of closed circuit cameras if such technology

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<v Speaker 1>was used on ethically. And while Google Glass is now

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<v Speaker 1>far more limited in its rollout, you know you only

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<v Speaker 1>see it in a few industries. At this point, the

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<v Speaker 1>company Google is still very much in the business of

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<v Speaker 1>knowing where it's customers are. In August two thousand eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>numerous tech journals reported on a study that was conducted

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<v Speaker 1>by Douglas C. Schmidt of Vanderbilt University. That's say said

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<v Speaker 1>that a stationary Android phone running Chrome in the background

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<v Speaker 1>would ping Google servers with location data three forty times

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<v Speaker 1>in a twenty four hour period. Even if you turn

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<v Speaker 1>the low in history feature off of the phone, the

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<v Speaker 1>phones were still sending location data back to Google, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the study. Google, by the way, has disputed the

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<v Speaker 1>findings of the study. Then there are the numerous personal

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<v Speaker 1>assistant devices that are out there, including Google Home, that

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<v Speaker 1>also are always listening for commands. And of course that's

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<v Speaker 1>just Google. There are other companies out there, like Apple

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<v Speaker 1>and Amazon that also have technologies similar to these. All

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<v Speaker 1>of these could be monitoring users and sending data back

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<v Speaker 1>so that the companies might later exploit that information for profit,

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<v Speaker 1>usually to sell you stuff to advertise directly to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's still pretty creepy, right. Even if the companies

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<v Speaker 1>are not actively exploiting that information, the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>data could be transmitted and recorded at all is problematic.

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<v Speaker 1>Though again I should say the companies generally say they

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<v Speaker 1>do not record user data in that way, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>a relief right. Number five drones. Drones are legit creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>Many drones have cameras mounted on them. That does allow

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<v Speaker 1>potential filmmakers unprecedented access and capabilities. Now, a low budget

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<v Speaker 1>film can have the equivalent of an expensive crane shot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fraction of what it would cost to rent

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<v Speaker 1>and operate a film crane with all the associated personnel,

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<v Speaker 1>the safety features, all that kind of stuff. You could

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<v Speaker 1>reduce all that down to an operator and a drone

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<v Speaker 1>and it would be much less expensive. But it also

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<v Speaker 1>means a drone operator who's using one of these devices

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<v Speaker 1>could use it to do stuff like peeping. Super darn

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<v Speaker 1>creepy to be spying on neighbors and stuff. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>the consumer technology version of drones that is already troubling.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you have to remember there's also tons of

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<v Speaker 1>military grade drones, and they're being used to do everything

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<v Speaker 1>from surveillance work to active strikes on military targets. Weaponized drones.

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<v Speaker 1>These drones may be semi autonomous or completely under the

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<v Speaker 1>control of an operator who's potentially hundreds of miles away.

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<v Speaker 1>They greatly extend the surveillance capabilities of various government agencies

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<v Speaker 1>and divisions, from military to law enforcement. In the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>Congress passed a bill in two thousand twelve giving the

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Aviation Administration or f a A, the authority to

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<v Speaker 1>drop rules for commercial and police drones in US airspace.

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<v Speaker 1>The FAA hasn't been super fast to share that information.

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<v Speaker 1>That prompted the Electronic Frontier Foundation or e f F

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<v Speaker 1>to sue the f a A under the Freedom of

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<v Speaker 1>Information Act to at least share a list of the

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<v Speaker 1>public entities and private drone manufacturers that applied to flight

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<v Speaker 1>drones in the United States, as well as thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>pages related to license applications. But the f a A didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, explain how those entities were planning on using

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<v Speaker 1>the drones. So that's a problem. Number four three D printers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just recently talked about Maker Bought, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>think the scariest thing about three D printers is that

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<v Speaker 1>they could lead to minor RNs as you try to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with melting plastic. But in fact there are other

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<v Speaker 1>things to worry about as well, like fake A t

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<v Speaker 1>M facades. See back in two thousand eleven, some thieves

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<v Speaker 1>used a three D printer to create a false front

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<v Speaker 1>for an A t M terminal, and they installed a

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<v Speaker 1>skimmer on some A t M s so unsuspecting customers

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<v Speaker 1>would come up and it would look like a real

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<v Speaker 1>A t M front that you couldn't necessarily tell immediately

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a projection on there that was a

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<v Speaker 1>false front. So they would put their uh, their A

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<v Speaker 1>t M card into this. They would then type in

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<v Speaker 1>their pen and meanwhile the skimmer was actually scanning the

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<v Speaker 1>data on the card and recording it with the pin

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<v Speaker 1>and allowing the thieves to steal more than four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in the process. And you know, all it

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<v Speaker 1>took was a three D printer to create that that

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<v Speaker 1>convincing a t M facade. In two thousand thirteen, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named d Wilson made headlines when he published files

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<v Speaker 1>for his three D printed Liberator handgun, which fired three

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<v Speaker 1>a D ammunition. That's scared a ton of people because

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<v Speaker 1>it means that anyone who had access to a three

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<v Speaker 1>D printer and the appropriate materials could have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to make an untraceable weapon. There'll be no background check

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<v Speaker 1>required because you just print the thing out. And it

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<v Speaker 1>also raised other possible problems. If the plastic were not

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<v Speaker 1>of a sufficiently good enough quality, it could mean that

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<v Speaker 1>the printed gun would not contain the explosive reaction properly

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<v Speaker 1>when you fire the bullet, so it could end up

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<v Speaker 1>breaking a part in the person's hand, causing injury to

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<v Speaker 1>the person holding the guns. So even if the person

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<v Speaker 1>who had printed the three D gun did so as

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just a proof of concept and they're firing at,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a paper target, there's the possibility that

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<v Speaker 1>the gun itself could explode or or fracture as part

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<v Speaker 1>of this if it weren't made out of sufficiently strong material,

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<v Speaker 1>and severe injury could follow. Cody Wilson, I should add,

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<v Speaker 1>has recently been in the news again. He resigned his

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<v Speaker 1>role as director of Defense Distributed, the company that he

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<v Speaker 1>used to promote the design and distribution of three D

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<v Speaker 1>printaple gun files. It's unrelated to the gun side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>so that organization still exists and continues to push Wilson's

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<v Speaker 1>vision even without Wilson at the helm. I've got some

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<v Speaker 1>more spooky things to talk about, but I grew tired,

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<v Speaker 1>so I need the goal and drink from blood, and

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<v Speaker 1>by blood I mean Earl great t I'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>back if through this word from our sponsors number three

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<v Speaker 1>driverless cars, this is a h's still a big worry. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Back when Chris and Dave we're writing this driverless cars,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still kind of out of the very very limited

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<v Speaker 1>testing situations. Google was the best known version. But now

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<v Speaker 1>we actually have some at least some rudimentary UM automated

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<v Speaker 1>car systems out there in the real world, like Tesla's autopilot,

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<v Speaker 1>which has contributed to some notable accidents, including a fatality. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla has said that this system was not meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be used as h and a driverless car solution, but

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<v Speaker 1>people have still done it because you hear a word

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<v Speaker 1>like autopilot and you want to test it out, I guess. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So that has been an issue. It has raised concerns

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<v Speaker 1>that perhaps this autonomous car technology is nowhere near ready

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<v Speaker 1>for full rollout, which I think most companies that are

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<v Speaker 1>working on the technology would say is correct. They're still

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<v Speaker 1>working on the tech to make it a reality. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been a lot of stuff, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stories published about various problems, philosophical problems that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to resolve in order to make a consistent and predictable

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<v Speaker 1>autonomous car solution, one of them being the infamous trolley problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The basic version of the trolley problem is that you've

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<v Speaker 1>got our out of control trolley. It's going down some

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<v Speaker 1>tracks and there's a switch that will allow you to

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<v Speaker 1>change the pathway of the trolley. And if the trolley

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<v Speaker 1>continues where it's path where it's going now, um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to collide with a group of people. If you

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<v Speaker 1>throw the switch, it will change the direction of the

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>trolley and it will collide with one person. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>throw the switch? If you do nothing, then maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm not involved. Therefore, my decision did not

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<v Speaker 1>affect anybody that it just played out the way it

0:29:59.920 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>was gonna play out. If I throw the switch, is

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<v Speaker 1>that I am actively condemning that other person to death?

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Other people would say no, by not choosing, you've actively

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<v Speaker 1>chosen to condemn the first group to death. Uh. There

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>are variations of this problem. Maybe you say, all right,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>well you've got a choice. You can uh not throw

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<v Speaker 1>a switch, which means the out of control trolley will

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<v Speaker 1>eventually come to a stop, but everyone in the trolley

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>is going to die as a result of this accident.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you can throw the switch and the trolley will

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<v Speaker 1>hit somebody, but the trolley will stop and everyone who's

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in the trolley will survive. So either you actively kill

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>someone but everyone in the trolley lives, or you don't

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>do anything and everyone in the trolley dies, but the

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<v Speaker 1>person who is just innocently crossing the pathway they live.

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<v Speaker 1>These sort of ethical problems are things that people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about and debate amongst themselves, but it turns out to

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<v Speaker 1>be an actual practical problem when you're designing autonomous car systems,

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<v Speaker 1>because eventually you have to build in some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>decision making system for a car in the event that

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>it it encounters a non avoidable car accident that all

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the problems have aligned in such a way that there

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>is no possible outcome in which there isn't a car accident.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does the car do? Does it behave in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that preserves the life of the person writing

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<v Speaker 1>in the car? Does it behave in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>preserves the life of the people in the surrounding area.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of tough questions to answer, So M. I. T.

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<v Speaker 1>Published a paper from a quiz called the Moral Machine.

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<v Speaker 1>This quiz was designed to find out what people thought

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<v Speaker 1>should be given priority in these situations, and it was

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>distributed globally across social media platforms. They recorded forty million

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<v Speaker 1>ethical decisions in total. Global preference had certain consistencies. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, generally speaking, people prefer to spare human lives

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>over animal lives. So if you had an option where

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a choice, but this animal will die

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<v Speaker 1>as a result, or you can make a choice or

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<v Speaker 1>that human will die, people would say, well, it's a shame,

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>but I'd rather choose where the animal dies. Also, people

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<v Speaker 1>in general would choose to spare more lives rather than

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<v Speaker 1>fewer lives. So in my example with the group of

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>people versus the one person, more people would feel comfortable

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>with the one person losing their life as opposed to

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the group of people. Also, people in general want to

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<v Speaker 1>spare children's lives more than adult lives, so this really

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<v Speaker 1>just showed people's preferences in ethical decisions. However, the study

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>authors stated that experts really should be the ones to

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<v Speaker 1>make the final call when designing these algorithms, that just

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>going by public preference alone may not be the best decision. However,

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<v Speaker 1>another thing to remember is that in st seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people died from car accidents. If driverless cars can reduce

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that number year by year, if we can find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to driverless cars more reliable so that it reduces

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the overall number of fatal accidents, that would be an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible thing and it would definitely be a good argument

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<v Speaker 1>in support for autonomous cars. It is, however, that there

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<v Speaker 1>is possible that there's a psychological barrier of a machine

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote causing deaths, and that that could be enough

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to screw things up, because while you might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to statistically state fewer people died because there were autonomous cars,

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the cars were autonomous and then people

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>died has a psychological effect. You're thinking, oh, it's a

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>machine killing a person. Number two geo engineering. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the use of science and technology to you know,

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote hack the planet. This is one of those

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.479
<v Speaker 1>ideas that's meant to help counteract problems like climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>So the scientific consensus tells us, yes, there is climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes it is largely due to human causes, chiefly

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<v Speaker 1>the increase of CEO two in the atmosphere along with

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<v Speaker 1>other greenhouse gasses. So by creating technologies designed to capture

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<v Speaker 1>and sequester carbon dioxide so that it's not in the

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere anymore, we could help slow or maybe even stop

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<v Speaker 1>the process of climate change. But the thing is, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure that some of these proposals would

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<v Speaker 1>work or what the other consequences of those actions might be.

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>One of the uh, well, some of the proposed methods

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>would definitely have nasty consequences. We know that. So, for example,

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>one possibility would be, let's put some more iron in

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the oceans in order to spur algae blooms to soak

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>up carbon dioxide, which that could help you could actually

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>soak up CEO two from the atmosphere. However, that would

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>also have a huge negative impact on the ocean itself.

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>You would create dead zones in the ocean because of

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>this algae bloom, and that means messing up a really

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>complicated ecosystem that lots of life forms depend upon, including

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>life forms that aren't, you know, directly in the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would have a ripple effect. Fittingly enough, since

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about water, you could have die offs happening

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>other places in the world that are a result of this,

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, not even places where there are oceans,

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:27.760
<v Speaker 1>so unintended consequences could be really, really nasty. Another tactic

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>besides trying to capture CEO two is to find ways

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to reflect more of the Sun's energy back off into

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>space without it getting absorbed by the Earth and then

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>admitted back into the art's atmosphere. The message here is

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>that the cure could end up being worse or at

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>least just as bad as the disease, though in a

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>different way, and ultimately we'll be taking a lot of

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>potentially irreversible actions without a full appreciation of what was

0:35:54.360 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. However, if we employ these sponsibly and carefully,

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<v Speaker 1>it's likely that we could use them as part of

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<v Speaker 1>an overall plan to help reduce climate change. Experts warn

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>us that these are not magic bullets. These are not

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>going to miraculously reverse the course that we've seen over

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the last few decades. They would at best be a

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<v Speaker 1>good additional strategy along with reducing our carbon dioxide emissions,

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that would be our most important action to take. We

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>can't just assume that we're going to come up with

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>a technological solution that will allow us to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>behave the way we've been behaving and magically erase the

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>consequences of those actions. That's just not a realistic outlook

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Number one on the list from Chris

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and Dave was internet surveillance, which kind of ties back

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>into that Google problem I mentioned earlier, but it goes

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<v Speaker 1>well on that. So internet surveillance comes in all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of forms. Right the social media we use when we

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>do our actions on their, all of that's getting tracked,

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>All of that is going into various tech boxes based

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<v Speaker 1>on our profiles, so that we are encountering the ads

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that are closest tied to our behavior, so that we

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>have the most uh the most incentive to click on

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>those ads or to act on them. In some way,

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>thus benefiting the company that makes the social platform as

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.240
<v Speaker 1>well as the company that's doing the advertising, and whatever

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>company is ultimately in charge of the product or service

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that is being advertised. So there's that there are companies

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 1>like Google that are taking this to extremes, tracking all

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>sorts of behaviors for all sorts of stuff, so that

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>whenever we're doing searches, we're also getting served up search

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 1>results that are catered to us more and more, which

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.280
<v Speaker 1>in some ways is good, you know, you're getting stuff

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that is more relevant to you, and in other ways

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<v Speaker 1>comes across as super creepy because it means that there's

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>this enormous corporation out there that might know you better

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>than you know yourself, and that's kind of worrisome. But

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>then you have other things like the n s A,

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>which a couple of years ago was famously revealed that

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<v Speaker 1>the n s A was tapping into all sorts of

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>different communication tools two spy on on communications between lots

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of different people in an effort to to promote national security,

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>But you could argue it was also a huge violation

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.479
<v Speaker 1>of people's expectation of privacy and that it also took

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:43.280
<v Speaker 1>almost a presumed guilty approach and applied it to absolutely

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody who uses these these forms of communication, from cellular

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:52.919
<v Speaker 1>phones too, website traffic, to all sources of stuff. Then

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you have hackers, either state backed hackers who are are

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>working too i on behalf of a government, or independent

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>hackers who are just trying to gather as much information

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>as possible to exploit it. Maybe that information is your

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>bank account, or maybe it's your social Security number. It

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 1>could be all sorts of stuff, but ultimately they're doing

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.919
<v Speaker 1>it so they can make money and they have no

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>real concern about what happens to you and your information. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>Information is valuable, whether it's for a government to try

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and protect itself or the citizens that it represents. Ideally,

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:33.919
<v Speaker 1>we would like to at least see a government try

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to protect the people it represents. Maybe that's being naive, uh,

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 1>or if it's a you know, a corporation that's doing

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>this in order to make a profit, or a hacker

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that's doing this in order to make a profit in

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>an even more unethical way than the corporations are. Information

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>is valuable. It's also a good reminder of why you

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>should do stuff like use VPNs when you can so

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>that you can protect your activity from prying eyes and

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 1>not have to worry quite so much about your every

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>move being spied upon. Uh, don't use public WiFi, especially

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to do anything sensitive. You know, be careful, be responsible

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>with your browsing activities so that you limit the ways

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that you can be exploited. I'm not saying don't make

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>use of these various platforms social media. I'd be a

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>hypocrite if I did. I use them all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Just know what you're getting into and be aware of

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>what could potentially happen. If you're comfortable with those consequences,

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I say, you're all good. If you're not, then you

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>need to think about ways you can change your behavior,

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>whether it's using VPNs or backing off on using the

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Internet as much, or whatever it may be, so that

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you feel you're using technology to benefit you as opposed

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to having other people receive a benefit because of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be used. In other words, now, as I say that,

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0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.880
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0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:14.640
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0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:19.359
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