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Speaker 1: From Kenwood, Louisiana, Here is ten year old Britney Spears.

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Speaker 1: The spiral downward continues for pop star Britney Spears. She

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Speaker 1: this conservatorship has been in place where I guess twelve

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Speaker 1: That's what they're talking about. Somehow he has turned into

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Speaker 1: in the fairies figure. Is there any indication he's ever

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Speaker 1: done anything wrong? Guys, take a listen to this. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really difficult because so many of the court records

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Speaker 1: are sealed. A lot of them also include medical records,

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Speaker 1: which are always sealed. The central mystery of our film

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Speaker 1: really is how could somebody make millions of dollars performing

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Speaker 1: in Vegas, headlining her own show, you know, appearing on

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Speaker 1: The X Factor, and making albums and also qualify for

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Speaker 1: this layer of protection which is usually meant for people

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Speaker 1: who are incapable of making decisions in their own best interest.

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Speaker 1: So it's very mysterious, and we don't know what the

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Speaker 1: legal reasoning is behind it because all the records are sealed. Guys,

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Speaker 1: you were just hearing our friends. Samantha Stark, director of

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Speaker 1: Framing Brittain, spears, she's speaking to another friend at CNN,

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Speaker 1: Christian I'm on poor, So what does it all mean?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it just rubs a lot of

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Speaker 1: people wrong. To you, Jeffrey skate Off to think that

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Speaker 1: she's working like crazy and she's making a big income,

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Speaker 1: but she's on an allowance, so to speak like I

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Speaker 1: would give the twins an allowance, that doesn't seem right.

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Speaker 1: She's thirty nine year old mother of two. So what

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Speaker 1: do you say to that skate off? Well, she could,

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Speaker 1: of course ask the court to terminate the conservatorship, which

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Speaker 1: apparently she hasn't done, so she must not be all

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Speaker 1: that unhappy about it. Furthermore, the court, the probate court

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Speaker 1: that oversees the conservatorship, will receive an accounting from the

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Speaker 1: conservator every year or every other year, and the court

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Speaker 1: has auditors that grow through everything. So if there's a problem,

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Speaker 1: and especially with a high profile situation like this, they

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Speaker 1: will find it and pointed out to the judge. And

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Speaker 1: what I will say is that under California law, for

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Speaker 1: the most part, a conservator can only be removed for

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Speaker 1: cause if the conservator has done something wrong, and so

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Speaker 1: previous attempts that have been made to remove her father

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Speaker 1: as the conservator have apparently not succeeded. The only thing

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Speaker 1: that I can suppose is that because the court has

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Speaker 1: found no evidence of any wrongdoing. Question, that's why he's

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Speaker 1: still You said that there are previous attempts to throw

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Speaker 1: father Jamie Spears off as conservator. Yeah, that's what just happened.

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Speaker 1: And instead of throwing off her father as the servator,

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Speaker 1: the court left in place him as well as Bessemer

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Speaker 1: as co conservators of her estate. And who in fact

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Speaker 1: petition the court to have him thrown off. Jeffrey, Oh, well,

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Speaker 1: Brittany could do that at any time. But who did

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Speaker 1: Alexis Jeffrey Skadoff is telling us there was a court

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Speaker 1: request I have Jamie Spears thrown off? Who made the request? Alexis.

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Speaker 1: Brittany has her own court appointed attorney, Sam Ingraham. Ingraham, sorry,

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Speaker 1: and he had been her personal attorney within this conservatorship

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Speaker 1: for many, many, many years. So he has said, you know,

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Speaker 1: Brittany doesn't want her dad to be in charge. She

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Speaker 1: wanted the third party person to be included. So what

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Speaker 1: happened recently and Michael Wright and Jeff's right that Brittany's

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Speaker 1: dad doesn't want this third party involved, but the judge said, no, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: the third party will be involved. But the judge did

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Speaker 1: not remove Jamie. Jamie is still on. He just has

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Speaker 1: to share power with the other conservator. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that's interesting that is public in court

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Speaker 1: records is the attorney They make about four hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars a year from this conservatorship. Whoa wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: So while Spears the dad makes about one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty grand, we think the lawyers make four hundred grand each. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but this is a really complicated empire. You know, she

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Speaker 1: has records and music and branding and images. It's not

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Speaker 1: just you know that she makes a small salary every

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Speaker 1: year from a simple job. She's it's a multi million

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Speaker 1: dollar empire that they have to manage for her, and

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Speaker 1: they've done it so well. She does have sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: If it would you know, if this was two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight, Britney would have given all her money to

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Speaker 1: the Bahaparassi she was dating, and she would have spent

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Speaker 1: it all in a store in Beverly Hills at three

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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. So they have really protected her

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Speaker 1: brand and her money. Jeffrey skate offf you have reiterated

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Speaker 1: that Britney Spears could ask the court to and the

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Speaker 1: conservativeship or get rid of a conservator. Well, she did

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Speaker 1: ask for her father to be removed, but the judge

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Speaker 1: kept him on right because under California law, the court

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Speaker 1: has to find some evidence of wrongdoing by the conservator.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that we can assume is that the

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Speaker 1: court did not find sufficient evidence of any wrongdoing on

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Speaker 1: his part to remove him. And when you say the

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Speaker 1: court has its own auditors to review the records, is

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Speaker 1: that how it works? Mike Kirman, private investigator. Yeah, some

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Speaker 1: courts actually have financial attorneys that will go through and

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Speaker 1: review all the accountings. It compends from court to court,

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Speaker 1: but every time there's an accounting file, there is somebody

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Speaker 1: who goes through it and make sure all the expenditures

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Speaker 1: are reasonable and there's nothing outlandish in it. Wow, and

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Speaker 1: that's what you do not want to see as an

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Speaker 1: auditor show up on your front doorstep. That is not

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Speaker 1: what you want to see. Guys. Take a listen to

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Speaker 1: Samantha Start, director of Framing Britney Spears speaking to Christian

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Speaker 1: I'm on poor. She was in charge of her personal life,

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Speaker 1: meaning you know, her medical care, like making decisions about

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Speaker 1: her medical care. What who comes to visit her, you know,

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Speaker 1: if she can have security twenty four hours a day

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Speaker 1: and that recently he stepped down from that, and now

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Speaker 1: she has a temporary conservator in charge of her person,

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Speaker 1: but he is still right in charge of her estate,

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Speaker 1: which means, you know, Britney can't sign check, she can't

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Speaker 1: enter into business deals herself. Every single thing she buys

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Speaker 1: has to be listed and monitored by the court. So

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Speaker 1: we saw these court records that showed, you know, five

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Speaker 1: to seventy five at Target, fifteen dollars at Starbucks, every

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Speaker 1: single thing she spends. And this is someone making millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars. So, you know, Lynn Spears recently she has

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Speaker 1: to file it as an interested party because she's not

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Speaker 1: technically part of the conservatorship. But recently she has higher

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Speaker 1: employers on them come to Core and she is also

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Speaker 1: feels like her ex husband should stepped down. So it

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Speaker 1: seems as if the sentiment is growing. Alexis Terreschuk, Crime

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Speaker 1: Online dot Com and lead stories dot com. You've got

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Speaker 1: the mother now entering the fright, Lynn Spears, along with hundreds,

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Speaker 1: if not thousands of people that have literally taken to

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Speaker 1: the streets on this, and you have Britney herself asking

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Speaker 1: for her father to be removed. Yet there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, but I think the court is looking

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Speaker 1: back in the history of everything that you know, Lynn

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Speaker 1: Spears was the one who met Sam Letzie in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: and he was that quote unquote s Bengali that there

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Speaker 1: were reports that he was drugging Brittany back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Like the court has been very methodical over more than

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Speaker 1: a decade of who is appropriately taking care of Britney

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Speaker 1: and it's her dad. The thing is, there was an

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Speaker 1: incident in twenty twenty where Britney's dad, Kevin Sutterline, the

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Speaker 1: father of Brittany's children, and her ex husband called the police.

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Speaker 1: Becau has Jamie allegedly hit one of Brittany and Kevin's

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Speaker 1: son and that was a big deal. And that is

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Speaker 1: when this all started that Brittany wanted her dad out

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Speaker 1: because he had allegedly hurt her child. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: certainly not a shrink, but I do know this. When

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Speaker 1: you don't know a horse, we'll look at the track record.

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Speaker 1: We know what has befallen Brittany Spears in the past.

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Speaker 1: It's a really mixed bag. No one wants to see

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Speaker 1: one of America's sweethearts, sitting back on that curb, crying.

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Speaker 1: So what's the answer. We wait as justice sun falls

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off