WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: How Bad Are The Injuries?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. It is Monday, August sixteen, twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Season seventeen, episode number nine. Welcome to the latest edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Break. I'm joined by Nick Eatman Dave Hellman.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking some Cowboys football with you guys for the

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<v Speaker 1>next forty five minutes, maybe an hour, depending on how

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<v Speaker 1>these guys go. H. We got a lot of topics.

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<v Speaker 1>But y'all just amused because there's a camera. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a no just video. Nick loves looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the monitor. But also I'm I look even shorter than

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<v Speaker 1>normal today. Yeah, that's a sair. So yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was mentioning. Just doesn't care, doesn't care. You should

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<v Speaker 1>be showing off the haircut. You got the fresh yet cut. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Put me on the little yeah the front, yeah, cleaned

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<v Speaker 1>it up. We can barely see you though I know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, people don't. This is not a face

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<v Speaker 1>for TV, like they put me on TV because I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's be honest. So all right, this works. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it looks good. You got a good haircut. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks good on you. Let's jump in. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this game. Cowboys lose to the Arizona Cardinals nineteen to

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen preseason games. So wins and losses really don't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>But what does matter is how how how the team played.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we get to how the team's team played,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what matters most is how healthy are you

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<v Speaker 1>once the game is done. Let's start with Neville Gallimore.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me where he is, what's going on with his injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and what do we expect me as far as time frame. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>for what it looked like, it's probably a best case

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<v Speaker 1>scenario for Neville Gallimore. I mean, just the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>pain that he was in and the way that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the length of time it took him to get off

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<v Speaker 1>the field looked really bad. I mean, it is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>He hyper extended his elbow, but you could have convinced

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<v Speaker 1>me he was done for the year based on what

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like. And it sounds more like a six

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<v Speaker 1>eight week type of deal. I think he'll start the

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<v Speaker 1>season on IR if I had to guess. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to come back in the first half

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, which is good news considering how bad

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<v Speaker 1>it looked. Yeah, and that's the thing that I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't watch the game and you just saw

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<v Speaker 1>the headline of an article we had about encouraging, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like encouraging timetable because based off of what it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like. Now, I did see some of the comments

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<v Speaker 1>on there, like that's not encouraging because he's out for

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<v Speaker 1>probably two months. But like Dave saying, it could it

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<v Speaker 1>could have been, and it looked like it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been worse. I mean, best case scenario maybe six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think, you know, we're three weeks away from

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<v Speaker 1>the season starting, probably three games would be best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, four or five games is worse. But they

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<v Speaker 1>have to make the decision on you know, do they

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<v Speaker 1>want to put them on an IR to return, And

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<v Speaker 1>that'll just you know, they'll they'll get to make that

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<v Speaker 1>decision when we get closer, when we get on cut day.

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, just explain to people that all rules because

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<v Speaker 1>they were they changed last year and now they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue with what they had last year. Hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 1>a permanent change. I know it three weeks. Three yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're out for three weeks, you can come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no limit on the number of guys they

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<v Speaker 1>can do that with, which I never I never understood

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<v Speaker 1>why you have to punish a team for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>getting hurt. Like, if a guy's out, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>used to what you used to get two guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you could bring back, and it was eight weeks. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if a guy's got a month long injury,

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<v Speaker 1>you know basically have to shut down his season, even

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<v Speaker 1>though you don't really need to. I just I always

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<v Speaker 1>hated that. Well, there's a guy you know up in

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<v Speaker 1>the North East that that bends the rules a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they they but but but a lot of coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams that that's what they would do.

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<v Speaker 1>They would end up stashing players and say that they're hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wouldn't be the only one, right, No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of teams, you know, and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>or you hurt, No, I'm okay, And then you drop

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<v Speaker 1>a weight on his foot, and his foot's hurt and

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<v Speaker 1>he's out and he's on. I don't even drop it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gotta act like you, right. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to make sure and police that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>agree that there's got to be a better middle ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we're fine. We're finding it here now.

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<v Speaker 1>The one the one thing about that is is that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be on the roster week one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one thing here. So well, not week one,

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<v Speaker 1>day one, Day one. I'm sorry, day one, don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. You don't have to be there for the

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<v Speaker 1>first game, but you do have to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>roster for twenty four hours, which I mean, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>it last year. It's gonna be a thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>do again this year. They're gonna get creative with it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, c J. Goodwin was the guy last year,

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<v Speaker 1>could be him again, be him again. They're gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 1>vested veterans, if you've played four seasons in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have you're not subject to the waiver wire.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not subject to that stuff. So you could see

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<v Speaker 1>a c. J. Goodwin or maybe a J Ron Curse.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Gilbert Garrett Gilbert. There's abody like that that they cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Any number of guys that you can cut and say

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<v Speaker 1>stick by her. Yeah, sure, anybody that's been in the

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<v Speaker 1>league four years or longer. I mean, well, no, they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it to Dak because of his contract. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible I was trying to use it as an example.

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<v Speaker 1>But anybody that's been in the league for four years

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<v Speaker 1>or longer, you say, this is procedural, Go chill at

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<v Speaker 1>home for a day, we'll call you. We gotta move

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<v Speaker 1>some guys, and you know it's the cut. Kennedy, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they cut five years, so that's what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess Neville goes to i R when the

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<v Speaker 1>season starts, especially again, you got this log jam of

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<v Speaker 1>young players. Obviously you would prefer him to be healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>but this helps you make room for some of those

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<v Speaker 1>types of guys. Uh. You know, at Tristan Hill could

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<v Speaker 1>be moved to PUP. Maybe I gotta figure out what's

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<v Speaker 1>up with Chauncey Gholston. People keep asking me about him.

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<v Speaker 1>We're into the point of camp now where I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it a hamstring? Yeah, let's go what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>well you, I mean there are degrees of hamstring. Let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go, there are degrees of hamstring. Jordan Lewis missed

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<v Speaker 1>ten days with one. Chauncey's me. I covered Miles Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. Francis Bernard is another one here, just hamstring

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<v Speaker 1>on like the first day of camp and hasn't come

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<v Speaker 1>close to practicing sinse. So but those are guys again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Chauncey could wind up on pup to start

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<v Speaker 1>the season. We'll have to see anyway, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>procedural stuff. But like I said, based on I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Neville was screaming on the field on front. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this looks awful, and so four to eight weeks after that,

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<v Speaker 1>I call that good news. Let's look at tight end

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Tight End it's starting to be a position.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that on your list? Yeah, I'm gonna get to

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<v Speaker 1>you know they on the run down. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>to that right after this. But but before we get there,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I went there. Before we get there, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to ask you guys about the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle position because when you just look at the depth

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<v Speaker 1>of and Dave, you kind of started getting into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But in my opinion, watching throughout training camp, that was

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<v Speaker 1>only one defensive tackle position or player that I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like was he is on the roster. He will be

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's going to be a regular rotation guy.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of guys doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things, but Nevill Galliman will always working the first team.

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<v Speaker 1>He was always out there. What does this mean for

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive tackle position now that he will be out

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<v Speaker 1>presumably at least three weeks, maybe some more, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it helps Carlos Watkins, even though he was

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<v Speaker 1>playing pretty well anyway, I mean him Urban. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were all we were wondering how it was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>shake out, and it's kind of shaking itself out here

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<v Speaker 1>now temporarily temporarily now after you know, four or five

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of the season, we'll see. But then who knows

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<v Speaker 1>if someone else doesn't get banged up. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>think week one, you know, of the of a regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're looking at an inside, You're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Watkins Urban, DIGI zua help me here, and I'm missing

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<v Speaker 1>another tackle, I mean not a three technique because that's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you got Quentin you got Quentin Bohem,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Justin Hamilton. But that's the interesting thing for

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<v Speaker 1>me is and that's why I think right now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an incredible opportunity for Osa because they drafted him

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<v Speaker 1>to play three technique. That's what they want him to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on right now, and all like everybody's versatile. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Watkins can do a little bit of everything, but nevill

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<v Speaker 1>was going to start as your three technique in your

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<v Speaker 1>four man front, and Osa is really the only guy

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<v Speaker 1>that specializes in that right now. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's probably the next man up to start.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think, yeah, I think they're going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes peeled. This is where your pro personnel comes

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<v Speaker 1>into play. You know, we ran into our old buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Walter Julife on Friday night. The Longtime Scout team sends

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<v Speaker 1>scouts to every game in the league for this reason

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<v Speaker 1>is to look and say, okay, is there is there

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<v Speaker 1>a pass rushing defensive tackle on any of these teams

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<v Speaker 1>that might not have a future here that we can

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at. I know people are gonna bring

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<v Speaker 1>up Geno Atkins. He's still available. I don't why you

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<v Speaker 1>raise your eyebrows. I could from the from the reports,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound like he's like a guy you necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>want to go out and rely on. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like he is. His injury history like it doesn't promising,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't think they're gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna look at Neville's situation and say,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have him back in October. We've got some young

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<v Speaker 1>guys we like. If there's a guy we can claim

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<v Speaker 1>or a guy we can do a minor trade for

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<v Speaker 1>when cuts come. We've seen him do stuff like that before.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I would expect to happen. I do think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll try to add to it, but not in some

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<v Speaker 1>crazy splashy way. Right. All right, let's move on, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of preempted it. We do need to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the tight end position. And actually let's go and

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<v Speaker 1>jump into that because I want to get to Randy

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<v Speaker 1>get Gregory. But let's start a tight end since you

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<v Speaker 1>brought that one up. Sean McEwan gets hurt in the game. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a guy that I think we all agree

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<v Speaker 1>he had had pretty much played himself onto this roster um.

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<v Speaker 1>What does this mean now for the tight end position?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess first tell me what his injury is and

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<v Speaker 1>how long, what his statusus like, and then let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what it means for the It's a high ankle sprain,

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<v Speaker 1>and high ankle sprain can obviously vary. Um. I've seen him.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen guys out six weeks. I've seen a guy

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<v Speaker 1>come back and play on Thanksgiving short week, So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>where does he fall in there? Probably, you know, three

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<v Speaker 1>to four weeks or so, which is which is another

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<v Speaker 1>situation of you know, we'll see if he's an ir

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<v Speaker 1>to return on the roster in the first day. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're gonna they're they're still gonna limit Blake Jarwin,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, he played some they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to just rush him back there. And even though Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>Schultz is banged up with an ankle injury, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's I don't think it's that serious though for

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton Schultz. So Sprinkles, you know, the only healthy really

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<v Speaker 1>you know, veteran tight end there. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>two other guys I don't even know their names. I

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<v Speaker 1>was excited about you Banks coming in. He had He's

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<v Speaker 1>got deceptive athleticism, but haven't seen a ton from either

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys. Really may I mean, you're so far

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<v Speaker 1>down in the depth chart at that point, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, you always try to glean things from

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<v Speaker 1>what you get to see. McEwen was in a boot

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<v Speaker 1>and had crutches on Friday night, But that doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>mean anything. It's kind of like Dak having an MRI.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, yeah, like you have access to this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't cost you any money. Why not? Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>want a two hundred and fifty pound guy putting weight

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<v Speaker 1>on his leg if he doesn't have to. So that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean that he's out forever. And that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an interesting one because if you're three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>from the start of the season, so you could probably

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<v Speaker 1>get away with just carrying him on your fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>for a week or two, but you might have to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe Jeremy Sprinkle makes the team now when

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<v Speaker 1>he probably wouldn't have before, And now you're just carrying

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<v Speaker 1>four when maybe you were thinking you could carry three. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean McEwan was gonna make He's had a

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<v Speaker 1>good camp as a tight end, but special teams is

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of that too. He played a lot

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and it's you know, it's it's funny how

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<v Speaker 1>it's ironic the way all of these things tend to

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<v Speaker 1>tie together. Because she wo allan Alua also hurt, probably

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be ready for the start of the season

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it from Mike McCarthy. So, now, all these

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<v Speaker 1>big body guys that can do a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams, you're you're losing them, and so they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to find a way to get creative

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<v Speaker 1>with that. You know, Kellen Moore was asked that question

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, there's a lot of ways to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it be four tight ends with a fullback,

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<v Speaker 1>an extra running back. He even said, an extra wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver or a wide receiver that can do some of

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<v Speaker 1>those roles. And you know, I don't think he's great

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<v Speaker 1>at it, but Noah Brown has done it in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's kind of got that big, big body to

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<v Speaker 1>do that that's not as forte and then he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gets into, you know, you get into a role

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not as comfortable with. So but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if they needed to do some things on

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<v Speaker 1>game day, Noah Brown could be one of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>feels like you're going to probably keep six receivers here.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, yeah, still, really we still have two

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<v Speaker 1>games to play in the preseason. But I I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't see them cutting you know, any of those three backups.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's three and then three and

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<v Speaker 1>then after that. I don't know, but the three Malik Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown and well see that's im. Sorry, I'm fascinated

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<v Speaker 1>by that because I was talking about this before the

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<v Speaker 1>game on Friday. Yeah, Cedric, Cedric and Noah should make

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<v Speaker 1>the team. Like I know, the front office wants to

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<v Speaker 1>save money look somewhere else. I mean, like they're not

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<v Speaker 1>that expensive, and they're versatile, and they're clearly the best players.

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<v Speaker 1>They're clearly much better than the other guys. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people were saying Noah had a drop at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of that game. I didn't think that was

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<v Speaker 1>a drop. I mean, he could have caught it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was a well played ball by the dB in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, like Michael Gallup dropped it. That's I Noah Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't consider that a drop anyway. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're a lot better than everybody else. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>working with Dak for three four years at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>so if they need to play, they have that rapport

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I just and the special teams obviously, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that just doesn't make sense to me, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I wonder about is Malik Turner and Semi Fajoko, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how important is your draft pick? First? How valuable? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Malik Turner can do a lot of stuff. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>convinced Semi can. But he's the he's the draft pick,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's he's got the very interesting intangibles. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just take my chances on the practice squad with him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. And my bed

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<v Speaker 1>is there's probably the vast majority of teams out there

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<v Speaker 1>have a Semi Fioco, Like they have somebody at their

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<v Speaker 1>camp where it's like, we think we can get him

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<v Speaker 1>to the practice squad, We're not really sure. I think

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<v Speaker 1>those guys tend to maybe available to you. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be my ninth round of roster cuts, and I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody brings up Danny Amendola. Like in the

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<v Speaker 1>time that I've covered the team, I can't think of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that they cut who got away from him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not like somebody that everybody was like Noah, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>him and Ammndola. People forget that Ammendola actually made it

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<v Speaker 1>through a whole season. He was on practice squad the

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<v Speaker 1>entire rookie season and then the Eagles when when they

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<v Speaker 1>made the playoffs and the Cowboys didn't, the Eagles just

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<v Speaker 1>tried to sign him to their thinking they could make

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<v Speaker 1>him to their practice squads and say we're still and

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't work out, but he still went and signed

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<v Speaker 1>with someone else. But I mean, it's not like he

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<v Speaker 1>was he was. He wasn't even claimed right away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a Hard Knocks feature and all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and that's happens, but not not much.

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<v Speaker 1>Rondelle Carter got claimed like the Colts signed him, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was a month end of the season. He wound

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<v Speaker 1>up back a month later. Blake Jarwin tried to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>but even that was like October. It convinced him to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a lot more rare than people think that

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<v Speaker 1>a guy gets claimed off your initial cuts in my experience,

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<v Speaker 1>at least yep um. Real quick. You mentioned Molie Turner.

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<v Speaker 1>He did also have an injury as well. What's his status.

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<v Speaker 1>Turf toe, turf it's what they're calling it. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a timeline that's talked to our buddy Brian

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<v Speaker 1>brought us about this, and I mean it's a sad reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, injuries can differ based on how much

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<v Speaker 1>work you need to do to make the team. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that's if that's maybe you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't go today, But if that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you can grind through and still be available, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the minor the reality of being at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the feel good one of the most injury for later.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's one of the most underrated injuries. Seriously, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>the pain of it. Oh well just I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>you think that it's not a big deal. I get

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<v Speaker 1>you got nine more. It is a very not serious

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<v Speaker 1>sounding injury, like maybe we need to give it him suss,

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<v Speaker 1>like you stubbed your toe. But like in the reality

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<v Speaker 1>when you're especially as any anybody that's trying to run

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<v Speaker 1>and cut and do all that, like it's you realize

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<v Speaker 1>how much you use that well, I mean, turf toe

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<v Speaker 1>changed a whole season for the Cowboys back at ninety

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<v Speaker 1>eight Dan Sanders. They were rolling and then Dion gets

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<v Speaker 1>hurt with turf toe, and you know they weren't the

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<v Speaker 1>same after that, so that that really affects him. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen that injury really affect the whole team. It was

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<v Speaker 1>it was turf toe that Patrick Mahomes had in the

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<v Speaker 1>home stretch of last year, right, And I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>obviously played through it, but he needed surgery when the

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<v Speaker 1>season was over. So but you know, when you're the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh receiver, sixth receiver on the team, which so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see how long he's out, but that just might be

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where you got to grind through it. We'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, real quick, let's talk about Tie and Seki.

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<v Speaker 1>He also at one point left the game. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he came back, but I just wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's okay. I think that might and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>this for sure. I haven't heard anything firm about him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did walk off the field and literally three

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<v Speaker 1>days prior to the game, he had the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>happened where he got tangled up left kind of walked

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<v Speaker 1>it off for ten or fifteen minutes and then was

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<v Speaker 1>fine later. And I mean, he's like thirty six years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just might be a reality of playing offensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle when you've got that much mileage on your knees.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know what's going to happen at

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<v Speaker 1>that tackle position. That is a tough one. Yeah, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly that it to me, it's it's the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>because you look at the that's the backup at the tackles,

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<v Speaker 1>the interior offensive line. Like, who knows how they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about that a little later in the

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<v Speaker 1>show too, but yeah, make your point. I have no idea. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I have no idea what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with I don't really know what they're trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>at center. Not really sure what's going on at swing tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, they would love if Terrence Steele

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<v Speaker 1>could just do it, but I don't. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they think he can. Yeah, and I don't think

0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.600
<v Speaker 1>they are one hundred percent confident. Insecky And then you

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<v Speaker 1>got your you know, does Martin is he is he

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<v Speaker 1>the swing tackle there? I mean, it's just I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to think he should be and I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was last It was one of our last shows

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<v Speaker 1>in Oxnard where I was like I'd rather keep Zach

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<v Speaker 1>at guard if I can. But yeah, but if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do that at this point, yeah, if that

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<v Speaker 1>is the option, then I don't know why Insechi would

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<v Speaker 1>be here. Well, I do think. I think it's two

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<v Speaker 1>different things. I think if you're in a game and

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<v Speaker 1>you lose a tackle, that I would like Insecchi or

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<v Speaker 1>or Steele to be able to just step in and

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<v Speaker 1>play the rest of that game. If you lose a

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<v Speaker 1>tackle for an extended period of time, I don't think

0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:52.960
<v Speaker 1>he even mess around. Whether you say, Zach Martin, get

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<v Speaker 1>on out there to tackle and be ready to play

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend at tackle and play it for the next

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks until we get our guy back. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the way I look at I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would be the opposite, honest really, yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather. I would rather the Zach kick out in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the game. Well, here's the way reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I look at it like that, A team isn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna necessarily game plan for Steel or Insecchi during the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a game. If they got a week and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, that's gonna be their starting tackle, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's gonna be all kinds of problems because I

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think that they are. I don't think there is

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<v Speaker 1>good of players obviously, And I think that if you

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<v Speaker 1>give a team a week to realize what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>player they are and how you can get them, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're they're gonna get them a lot. So I again,

0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:38.760
<v Speaker 1>in the game, I think you can probably manage. You

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<v Speaker 1>can probably get by when you got a week. Give me,

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<v Speaker 1>give me my best guy to slide out to tackle,

0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.080
<v Speaker 1>because I want them to have to think about the

0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.640
<v Speaker 1>fact he's going to be out there, don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it takes that long to realize if Tyren Smith's

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<v Speaker 1>not out there and it's Terrence Steele. Now that now,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're gonna move this guy to this side and

0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.360
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna rush off the edge, And like, I don't

0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.840
<v Speaker 1>think there's needs a lot of game planning involved. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna blitz on that side. Now. We weren't

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>going to do that at all, but now we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, but the but the thing is that that

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 1>defensive end didn't spend all week watching film of Terrence

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Steele to be able to beat Terren Steele. He watched

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<v Speaker 1>the week of film of Tyren Smith. Does he need it?

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.879
<v Speaker 1>He may not, but I'm saying he has. Imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when he does have a week of watching Terrence

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Steele to prepare to play Terrence Like it's differently saw

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<v Speaker 1>that right, So I think that's the way I look

0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.159
<v Speaker 1>at it. I think that's why I want one of

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.359
<v Speaker 1>those guys to at least be manageable to get me

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<v Speaker 1>through the end of the game. And then I'll adapt

0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and say, give me my best calf right to step

0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 1>my quarterback. Twenty nine of the thirty two teams in

0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the league think this. But now the depth on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line is worrisome, and I the Connor Williams center

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<v Speaker 1>experiment thing makes me real nervous. Now that was like

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, first game, bad snaps are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's his first game ever. Two more bad snaps in

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<v Speaker 1>the second game, and so it it reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>like my college career, like just trying to cram for

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<v Speaker 1>a test the night before. It's like, why did you

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<v Speaker 1>wait until July twenty third to try this? Why weren't

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<v Speaker 1>we doing it before? Here's what we're gonna do. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a break when we come back We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the offensive line, in particularly that

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<v Speaker 1>Connected team. I mean, I'm sorry, our mobile app, Cowboys Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a Cowboys mobile. A lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the booth for that. I mean, we gotta like rotate

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<v Speaker 1>it like we did for the Rams game. How are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing it well? Drew Pearson will be in there

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<v Speaker 1>and start with so um, good luck following him. But

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<v Speaker 1>speak of Drew Pearson, do you want to give a little,

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<v Speaker 1>a little shout out to you made it to the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. That's not what I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. If they didn't think so, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really really well done documentary on Drew Pearson, Alex Lilly,

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Daniels did phenomenal job putting that thing together. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you about that. And I feel like, without

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<v Speaker 1>sounding terrible here, but I know I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>know quite a bit of the Cowboy's history. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to say yes, I absolutely I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like saying it, but I know my share, and

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<v Speaker 1>I watched that, and I know the hail Mary and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, and that's not a flag, it's an orange.

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<v Speaker 1>And then to push off and he pumped face, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he pumps Krouse over here and throws it. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>more about that game in that play in Drew Pearson's

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<v Speaker 1>life than I ever knew. And I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I know it all, but I I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I knew a lot of it, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>very impressed with all the stuff that that they got

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<v Speaker 1>in there. I thought it was very well done. So

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Kurt Daniels and Alex Lily and that

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<v Speaker 1>whole team that we have there, But it was really

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<v Speaker 1>those two guys that did a great job with it.

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<v Speaker 1>They absolutely crushed it. And coming up next week, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just getting started. Coming up next we got Darren Woodson's

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<v Speaker 1>story that'll be coming out this Saturday night or Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>evening or is it Friday Saturday Saturday Saturday night. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be coming out and it'll be on the normal channels

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<v Speaker 1>where you can watch all those other things. As that

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlierhere. You can watch the practice tonight, but

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<v Speaker 1>again check those out Deep Blue documentaries. We'll be running

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<v Speaker 1>fourth throughout the preseason this year. Some really really good storytelling.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's jump back into our conversation we were

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to talk about Dak Prescott coming out of camp.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been injured. He mentioned there before we left

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<v Speaker 1>camp that he was going to have a He thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was progressing really well. He was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a n m R when he got back to Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>just to make sure everything's progressing. Well. What did they

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<v Speaker 1>find when they did the MRI. Least surprising thing ever,

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<v Speaker 1>is they said he was going to have it today.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know this for sure, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>Dak decently well by this point. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he woke up Saturday and was like, why why are

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<v Speaker 1>we waiting? What are no Like? Isn't a machine? It's

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<v Speaker 1>a machine right over there? Right? Yeah, So this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like McCarthy's that way too, watching that one episode of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, whatever, Yeah, let's go, let's get started on this.

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<v Speaker 1>If this is going to if this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>affect me and my team again, let's find out now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the indication is that it won't. Um, he had the MRI.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like everything's good, he's healing up. Um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no additional damage from these throwing sessions. So it just

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like he's going to continue on his path. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's I don't think he's gonna get out

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<v Speaker 1>there tonight and rip fifty balls. But he should do

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. And I do like I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody knows if he'll actually play on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday right now, but I bet that's the goal, is

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<v Speaker 1>to see how he handles some work, see if he

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<v Speaker 1>can ramp himself up in these practices this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>try to get him, you know, six to ten snaps

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday night if that's feasible. Not Again, like, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know right now, because you got to see how

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<v Speaker 1>he handles this. You're not going to throw him out

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<v Speaker 1>there if it doesn't seem right. But I bet that

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>they would like to do that. Yeah, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we don't know if he'll play this Saturday. But

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>my suspicion is, and I'll let you guys speak for yourselves,

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>my suspicion is, you guys feel pretty good that he

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>will be there come Thursday, September ninth, when the Cowboys

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>traveled to Tampa Bay. Always have yes. I feel like

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that's been the goal and that's the only I mean,

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say it's the only goal, but it's the

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it's the main goal. And if if they can get

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of snaps in preseason, fine, but you

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>know they'll be they'll be fine without it. Just like

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>to reiterate my position, as long as we're doing this,

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody somebody like, you know, they had that rash of injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>like four guys got hurt in twenty minutes on Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody on Twitter was like, are we sure we

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<v Speaker 1>want Dak to play in the preseason. I was like,

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely the hell not. No, we don't. I mean the

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>coaches might, and Dak might. But if if snap one

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<v Speaker 1>against Shaquille Barrett and damackin Sue Is, if that's the

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>first snap of his season, that's a okay with me.

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>As long as he's ready for it. Yeah, that's one

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>thing I learned from Hard Knocks. That's a very intense guy.

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't like not playing, so they're having to hold

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>him back. For his own good. You needed to see

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that to know well, I mean, I know, well, he

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't conduct himself that way in the media. That's the difference.

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>The difference is I knew that Dak wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I knew that Dak was a really, really

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<v Speaker 1>impressive competitor. What I saw in that was that he

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<v Speaker 1>is intense, Like he's very intense, and he doesn't take

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>too kind to lead to people not wanting not giving

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>him the opportunity to get on the field. And so

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that that the That was the part that was I

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<v Speaker 1>think a revelation for me, because that's not who he

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>is off the field, right, You gotta be a little

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>bit of an a hole to be great at that.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean to be great at anything really, probably, but

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>especially a quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, all right,

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the backup quarterbacks. Nick, you wrote an

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>interesting article and Garrett Gilbert in that game, he was

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>seven of sixteen or forty four percent completion percentage. He

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>had eighty yards passing. His rating was fifty nine point four.

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Not a great statistical day for him. But all that

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>being said, and I know you wrote the article, tell

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>me what the I guess the point of your article

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and what you're thinking right now at the backup quarterback. Well,

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>if they're always going to keep looking for everything, and

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if he was, if it was one

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>fifty eight point three was the rating, they're going to

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>always look to see if there's something better, and they're

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>going to continue to do that, and they're going to

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>continue to look at the waiver wire. I don't feel

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>like there's going to be a lot of options that

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.719
<v Speaker 1>are better than what they have. So I feel like

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be the backup. And I thought he

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>played well in that game. I thought he was putting

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>in some very uncomfortable situations and I thought he did

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a really nice job handling himself there. He didn't get

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of help. You expect your center to get

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball back to you. Two instances that he didn't,

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>he still managed to kind of, you know, salvage it

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and make a play. And you know, Army crawled here

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and got up and threw it and all that. And

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>then he steps in the pocket on another play and

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>throws it over the middle to Michael Gallup and Gallop

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>missed the ball. You know, he catches that ball like

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>he should, and you know they're in a much different

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>situation in that drive. I think he can get it

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>down to probably the ten yard liner, So we'll see

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>what happens there. I thought he did a nice job

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>there and I don't feel like there's gonna be a

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of other options there. Um, when it's time to

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to change it out. They're giving him the chance to

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>win the job, and I think he's going to do that.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you are. I think he already has. Remember

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to lose it to somebody that's on

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<v Speaker 1>this team. And oh he's not. He's not going to No,

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I was laughing because I don't

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>even think that's close. It's not like I don't know

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>about other guys out there, but I don't think that's

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>even close. Cooper Rush has he's looked all right. Um.

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a clear difference in arm talent when

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>he's out there, like if he if he if he's

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>got to throw it outside the numbers, it doesn't It

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look great in my opinion, just in terms of

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>getting it there with the speed and accuracy that it needs. Yeah,

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to throw one more thing in there.

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Too like, and I wrote this that I don't care

0:31:58.200 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>who you are in the league. I don't care if

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you won Super Bowls, Pro Bowls, whatever, You're not making

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>a better throw to Cedric Wilson on the right side.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna. I mean, like that is in his arsenal.

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>We'd know that he'd made a throw like that and

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>his first started to Amari Cooper and against Pittsburgh. He

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>can do that, and so you know, he reminds me

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of Jason Garrett in the way, even

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>though Garrett's he's taller and he's got a better arm.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>But as far as you know, good deep ball touch,

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>will stay ready, very smart, understands what he's doing. That's

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of what you want out of a backup y.

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I think more than anything, he just looks comfortable, and

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the best thing you can ask for. Probably, Yeah,

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>And it was actually it was the play we talked

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>about earlier that some were calling a drop by Noah Brown,

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like to get that ball off the feet, like off

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the carpet, maneuver around all the garbage and still get

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>an accurate throw off. It was very impressive. It was

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>an incompletion and I thought it was probably the most

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>impressive play of his night. Yeah. No, he just he

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>is leaps and bounds better than the other two guys

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>on this team. And you know, I keep saying his name,

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>but there's no interest in Blake Bortles. Clearly or else

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>something would have happened by now because he's just sitting

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>out there. He might even be back in Green Bay

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>soon because Jordan loves Hurt, So I don't think there's

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>anybody available right now that they like more. And when

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you talk about quarterbacks like yeah, people bring up the

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>situation in Chicago, but it's hard for me to imagine

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>them trading for a salary like that. Maybe if one

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>of those guys gets released, maybe, But if I had

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to bet on it, I would say Garret Gilbertville. Yeah,

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I look at a backup quarterback, and to me, a

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback just needs to if everyone else around him

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>can pick it up. When you lose your starter, they

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>give you a chance to win. And that's what would

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>have to happen. You've got all these this talent on

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>this offense, they'd have to step up. And I think

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>if you would have given him the two starting tackles

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>in the game that he played last year, I think

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that may have ended up being a different game. I mean,

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought he played a decent game for what the

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>situation is placed in. So yeah, I think I've seen

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>enough to where I feel like he can be a

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>solid backup for you. And what you have to do is, again,

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>if if Dad goes down, everybody else is gonna have

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to play better in order to make sure that you

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>have even a chance. But I think if everybody else

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.280
<v Speaker 1>can play better, then I think he'll give you a chance.

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. I still think this is not

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a good backup quarterback situation, like you think again team,

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you know the Saints. How many teams have those, and

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it's only it's only five or six that ever feel

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>good about it. It's either if you have a first

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>round pick that's not starting yet like the Packers or

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Bears forty nine ers, or if you luck

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>into an amazing situation like the Cowboys did with Andy

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 1>last year. Or you know, the Saints had Teddy Bridgewater

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>when he was trying to resurrect his career, Like you

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>need good fortune to have that situation. That being said,

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Cowboys have it right now. I mean,

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Garrett Gilbert's fine, He's definitely better than what's available. Oh

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not. I don't feel great about this situation, but

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>given that they don't seem likely to do anything about it,

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel okay. Well, it's shortsighted too for any fan

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to think that, you know, something's not going to give.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>When you give a guy forty million dollars a year

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>at that position, you have to give something. And that's

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're you're banking on him to be great. You're

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>banking on him to be one of the best quarterbacks

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the in the league, if not the best.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>That's what they're that's what they're hoping for, that's what

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what they paid him to do. So you can't

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>really you just don't have a lot of money in

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>resources to do anything other than that. And they're hoping

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to lucky. Dave said, luck into it. A guy that's

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>been around seven years and he's got three starts, I mean,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>but hopefully the experience of being around in different systems

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>will get him ready to play. All right, we're gonna

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>take our final break. When we come back, I want

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the center position. Cowboys are not calling

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it a competition. We saw Connor Williams start at center

0:35:58.080 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>in this last game, and I want to ask these

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>guys if they think it's a competition or if they

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's just a situation where they're trying to get

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>their backup. Ready. We'll talk about that when we come

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<v Speaker 1>the Break. Life and SWBC Mortgage Studios at the start. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, I don't know if y'all were listening. Do

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<v Speaker 1>y'all ever listen to? Uh? Y'all ever listening? Hanging with

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the boys? Not really? To be honest with you, sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a shot at any of our colleagues, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Well, they were taking shots at us this

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<v Speaker 1>morning and it got so bad where I literally walked

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<v Speaker 1>down and got on the air. Are you serious? I

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>can't tell if you're kids. I'm very seriously. They mad

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that they weren't at training camp. Well, they just they

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 1>took it personal that I was. I called him out

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and said, they want a better show than us, and

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>so they they're now like they've launched this war against

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the Break where they're gonna just show the Break that

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>they are the better show. I was like, well, numbers

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 1>will prove it. So let's let's see where you go

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>with it. I mean, okay, it's like practice squad chirping

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>at QB one. Okay, it's like when the little kid

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>runs up to you and you just gotta hold them.

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that's like the young man during during training camp.

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Disbelieve Kurt would talk like that. Well, Kurt was the

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>only one, wasn't there, He probably would have talked some

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>sense and to him, like, y'alla once, tone this down

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Kurt Kelvin Joseph form like he kind

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of made headlines for talking about no fly zone, airplane

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>mode and all that. Somebody asked Dak about it and

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>he was like, yeah, I don't think he's gotten a

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>chance to go against me and my guys, so you know,

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe he should do that before he runs his mouth

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.280
<v Speaker 1>more or less. I mean I'm paraphrasing basically, yeah, yeah,

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>same energy. I just didn't know if you guys heard

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that this one well you started it, well I did,

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>but I mean it was just, you know, it was

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just interesting me if they had something to say a

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We'll see what

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 1>that all means as we get into the season. Competition

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>brings out the best and everything. Hide lifts all boats.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Got no problem with competition whatsoever. I told him they

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>should listen in to the break more often. Maybe he'll

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>get some pointers. All right, let's get back in. We

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>do need to talk about the offensive line, particularly the

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>interior part of the offensive line. This last game, Connor

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Williams started at center, and I keep seeing a lot

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of media guys they're talking about this and they're like cowboys,

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>keeps saying this is not a competition. This certainly looks

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>like a competition. And as I was watching, I was

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>thinking to myself, Okay, so basically what they want me

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to believe is that the center, the starting center, who

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.439
<v Speaker 1>was only in his second year and didn't even start

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>all of last year, is so good that they're like,

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>we got to take all these stamps and give them

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to the backup because we got to get him ready.

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Rather than making sure the starter is ready. It doesn't

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:48.479
<v Speaker 1>seem to make sense to me. You guys make sense

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>for me. I actually can't. Well, I'll try. I don't

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's a competition, and Connor's showing you that himself.

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, four bad snaps in maybe twenty preseason opportunity.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that ain't good. But you don't think

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that they should be giving those snaps. I would think

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 1>start a quarterback hasn't played yet. Like, I don't care

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.439
<v Speaker 1>what Bodis does with Karret Gilbert. I care. I care

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>less about well, I shouldn't say that I will make it.

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I care about the snap just as much as I

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>care about what happens after the snap. I'm going to

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>lose my Jalen Smith bet to you in already, so

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to lose the behandah bet so very well.

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's make a rubber bet. Let's make a

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>rubber match bet right now. If Dak plays against Houston,

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>beatas will be the center. That's well, it's also coming

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>off a game whereas you just say Connor head too.

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing, and here's what makes it make

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>even less sense. It's not a competition that they're like

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Connor might be better than Tyler. It is a holy crap.

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Connors never played center in a game. We gotta get

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>him out there exactly, which I mean it takes you

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>all we were we've been talking about huh's end you

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>don't I mean the Giants technically have his rights he retired.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think that's a coincidence. You should think again, seriously,

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>we've I mean, that's that's next level stuff. But I

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>think from what I was told that there's a reason

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.320
<v Speaker 1>why that happened. So maybe they should have signed him. Yeah,

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean they could have done. I this is you know,

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of instances, we don't know as much

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>as they do. But it goes back to the Zach

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Martin fantasy football tackle thing. It still misses you off.

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 1>It always will. Don't to quote my father, don't pee

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>down my leg and tell me it's raining, like I'm

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>not stupid. Um. And it's the same thing. Like all spring,

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>we're like, there's not really another center on this team.

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Kind of weird. Huh No, that's not a big deal.

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.439
<v Speaker 1>They get to training camp, they're like, oh, I want

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to say the S words so bad, but I'm not

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>going to. Oh crap, nobody else here really does this,

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and and now we're just trying to piece it together

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>as we go, and not even with the guy that

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>played center in college when there are two on the

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>team that did that well. But McGovern did this for

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a year and Farniac's done it in spot rolls and

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>they were like, no, Connor, Connor Williams is not a

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>is a backup center some a player that I don't know.

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say fairly easy, but that someone that you

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>think you might be able to get once the rosters

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>are cut. I oh that I don't know the answer to. Here.

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Here's another part of it too, that everyone keeps saying, well,

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>if he can be your backup center, it saves your

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>roster spot and all that game day roster spot. Well,

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 1>unless they've changed it back, I thought the rules were

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>now you have to have eight guys active anyways on

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the line, you have to have eight linemen. So having

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>this guy that ain't gonna do a lot, I think that, like,

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you're both right, I think now looking at it, I mean,

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought Tyler bottish Um helped himself by not doing anything.

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Connor just but I do think you cannot

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>convince me that if Connor Williams would have gone out there,

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>grated out well, no issues with snaps and all that.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>You can't tell me that they're not thinking, you know what,

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>he may be our center and maybe McGovern needs to

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>play left guard. I still think that they're trying to

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>figure it all out because I think I don't care

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>who's taking the snaps at quarterback. Be honest. Needs work. Yeah,

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:26.919
<v Speaker 1>so that's it. That's don't get me wrong, work. Don't

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong. It is weird. It's very weird. But again,

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>going back to my mediocre career as a student, it

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of like the night before the project is due,

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, man, I could have been so much

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>this could have been so much better if i'd started

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago instead of tonight. I have absolute faith

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that Connor Williams could become a solid center in time.

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Why did they wait until July twenty fifth? Like, why

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>why wasn't he doing this all through the spring? Why

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't Why would? I mean, I don't understand. It's gonna

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 1>piss you off. He comes back next year on another

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 1>team and he's or starting center. I can say it,

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>but it certainly will be curious, like you definitely will

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>look at it and say what happened here? Like like

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>miss it? Like does anyone like seeing Beasley on the

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.359
<v Speaker 1>top one hundred lists, Like even though that's on it? Yeah,

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I was on it. I mean nineties something. He had

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a really good year last year. Don't better than tyrants

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>math and that kind of No, No, I mean the orders.

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.800
<v Speaker 1>But um, I don't even know what I was saying

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>about about Connor Williams. I don't, I don't know. I

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>lost my train of thought. You said something. What were

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>you saying about? I just don't understand why they waited

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 1>until training camp to start this. Like I didn't see

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Connor do this. He did do he did do quarterback

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>school during OTAs, which is twenty minutes with the quarterbacks,

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.320
<v Speaker 1>but like he never played center in a team setting

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 1>in the spring, and that was eight practices, which how

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>many did they have out there? Thirteen? So I asked

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you do the math? After the game, I did ask them,

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, what is what's going on? Kenny? You're like,

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>this is this? Maybe you just compete for a starting

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.400
<v Speaker 1>job because like, I'll do whatever they ask me to do.

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>But from what I've been told, this is just for emergencies,

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna be a hell of an emergency. Well

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>again that maybe that's a good sign that they feel

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>great about where Tyler beotist is that he doesn't need

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>those reps. Like, maybe that's what it is. Who knows, um,

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I can't. I'm not in the meeting rooms.

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>But but it just seems a little weird to me

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that a guy that's in his second year doesn't need

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>more snaps in the preseason to get himself ready. I

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's maybe it's a case of priorities, right, Like

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Tyler does need work, but Tyler's played center for a

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>long time, won the Rimington Trophy in college. What your

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>expectation is that he's going to be the start and

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>hopefully play sixteen games. I would think that's the priority.

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>The backup becomes the second priority. I if you feel

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent sure about your starter and twenty percent

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>sure about your backup at a job, the only other

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 1>job in football where you hold the football every snap,

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I see the logic. I'm not it's weird. I'm not

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>saying it's not weird, but I'm trying to but piece

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that together. Like, but Connor needs the work way more

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>than Tyler, even though Tyler also needs work. But they

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 1>could have done both, because what Connor needs is he

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>needs to snap the football back to someone. It doesn't

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>really matter who he's playing again the fourth quarter, third quarter.

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But you also don't want to put your starting left

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.399
<v Speaker 1>guard out there in the fourth quarter of a game

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>against scrubs that are trying to make part of the

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. When you're starting left guard is also your

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>backup center. He's gonna have to because he's got to

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.359
<v Speaker 1>get those reps because you want the first team guy

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to get the first team reps. Are we give him

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>McGovern a pass that he's a third round pick and

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 1>he really hasn't done anything and he's not factoring in

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>as a starter, and he's he's and they're they're thinking,

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>so this one, you don't think he's factoring as a star. Well,

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he isn't. He isn't starting. You know, Brandon

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Knight gets some work in there too at guard, and

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're they're trying to figure figure this whole

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>thing out. I mean, I just I don't know. I mean,

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought with a second round grade and the third

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>by they drafted him in the third round. I thought

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 1>at some point he would be a guy that would

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>just kind of be starting. I will give him the

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 1>credit of pointing out that he did come in and

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>play the last six weeks of last season and was

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, pretty good, wasn't awful, like so he's done

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:20.879
<v Speaker 1>more than nothing. And maybe maybe that's what they're trying

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to do, Like deep down, maybe they're like, you know,

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 1>let's try him at center, Connor Williams at center, and

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>McGovern will be there. So they're trying to get their

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.359
<v Speaker 1>better their five best guys. But I don't think I

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>will say, I think you can do it the way

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.879
<v Speaker 1>that they build the McGovern pick when it happened as

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 1>this blinking red light that nobody could ignore. And it

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>hasn't lived up to that level of the hype, that's

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah, I think they what what they're probably

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>or at least what the signs look like to me,

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>is maybe they think McGovern is a better guard than

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Beyottish is a center. The problem is they can't

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>get Connor to be a better center, which blows up

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. Maybe they should have started working him

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>at center before three weeks ago, and I asked you

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 1>guys this, and during the break, I wonder if I mean,

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how he played because it's really easy to

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>see bats snap, bats snap, and I go, well, he

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 1>was awful, because that is very problematic. But part of

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the he is he is he picking up the blitz?

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Is he understanding things? Is he recognizing, you know, the

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the alignments and all that stuff, and is he does

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:24.240
<v Speaker 1>he do, you know, snap it into a nice NFL

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>game pass? Maybe help us out with that, right, not

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to grade TV copy. If you catch my drift?

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Well he said, he said, I said, so what happened

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 1>on the second one? The one that you know went

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to the ground first, and he was like, uh, it

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>hit my cheek. They basically snapped it into his ass.

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's basically what happened. And that's the play

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that I thought Garrett Gilbert did it. I mean he

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>jumped on it and said all right, once touched me,

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 1>he rolls and gets up and throws. If he would

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>have made that play, I mean, if he would have

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>thing like it's got to be to make that adjustment

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:01.919
<v Speaker 1>for like any of the offensive line spots are hard.

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 1>But then I mean getting the snap off and having

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.319
<v Speaker 1>it be accurate and going where it's supposed to go

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>in that as you do it, some three hundred and

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty pound mofo is gonna crash right into your face.

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean that sounds really difficult, you know. I'll say

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>this about McCarthy. I like the way he calls or

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.799
<v Speaker 1>they call games and whether it be kelling, but I

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:28.359
<v Speaker 1>like the way he manages these preseason games. He's not

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to see the punt team go out and see

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>if the punter can get the ball to the ten

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.720
<v Speaker 1>on fourth and nine and punt it like you normally

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 1>would like. He's we're going for it fourth and twelve.

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 1>We're going for it. We're gonna try. I mean, I'd

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>rather see this than just manage the game. You pick

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>up fourth and twelve. We need to pour and and

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that goes to a guy that's that's coached

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>for twelve years. He can turn it on, turn it off.

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have to practice. This is how you do things,

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what the chart says to do and all that stuff.

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Now we're just gonna play. I want my guys to

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 1>go out there and try to convert. I always say

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I think coaches make way too many decisions based on

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.919
<v Speaker 1>like how defensible it'll be later, you know, like am

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I going to get killed for doing this? Or should

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I just do the smart football thing that people have

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>done for decades. I worry about that less with McCarthy,

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's not always going to work, and that's fine,

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.839
<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate that he doesn't seem that worried about it.

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 1>There was a play that I liked that it probably

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 1>would be overlooked, I think by many, but I'm always

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 1>one of my pet peeves is this when the offensive

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 1>coordinator just plays at play to play and doesn't think about,

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, two or three plays ahead. And when they

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>scored the touchdown, it was third and six from like

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the nine, and they ran to draw up the middle

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to Knox, I think Brennan Knox, and he got a

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>first down all the way to the one. But you're

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>not expecting a first down. You're expecting three yards, four

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 1>yards whatever. But it could open up what, you know,

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 1>what they do on fourth down. I really like that call.

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>That showed me Kellen was thinking two plays ahead now

0:51:57.600 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and if you get the first even better, And they did,

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and they order all that stuff but that's that's what

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to see out of your offensive coordinators go

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 1>down there and say, all right, what are we doing here?

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just four down and it clearly was four down

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 1>territory for them, so they knew that. So, um, that

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>was nice to see a touchdown, you know, I mean

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.919
<v Speaker 1>for once this season, we've spent most of the show

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:18.839
<v Speaker 1>talking about the offense. Real quick, I want to give

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>each you guys an opportunity to give me one defensive

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:23.919
<v Speaker 1>player from the game that stood out to you. I'll

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>start first, Oh, Dave's got it? Israel mukuamu or you're

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna you're gonna I'll give you your bril. It's not

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 1>who you were gonna take. He's played great. Yes, yeah,

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>this is great. Go ahead, though, I want to hear

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>what Israel? I just I'm really impressed by him. I

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Speaker 1>was talking about this on Twitter, you know. I mean,

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.560
<v Speaker 1>he played cornerback in college. It's the joke we always reference.

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you're gonna get the best corner in the draft. Oops,

0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>no you're not. That's not your position. Um, And he

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:50.400
<v Speaker 1>played some safety in college, but like it's not his

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 1>primary position. He makes the move, he is physical, you know,

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 1>he made a great tackle um of the you know,

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>running back in the flat to stop him on a

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<v Speaker 1>third down. Um. He seems like he's got great instincts,

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Like he's in position he's you know, at at practice

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 1>in Oxnard, like he's he's jumping in front of passes,

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>he's reading routes. I'm sure it's not perfect, obviously, but

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 1>he flashes and he's a willing tackler. Like I said,

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:18.359
<v Speaker 1>it seems like he knows where he's supposed to be.

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.959
<v Speaker 1>He's not quite on that Micah Parsons level, obviously, because

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a top ten pick, but he seems like

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's where the ball is and that's a good thing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's fascinating to me because it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be tricky to find a place for him to

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<v Speaker 1>be blunt about it, because you got you know, I

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:39.359
<v Speaker 1>would assume Kasey and Hooker are both gonna make the team.

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Dono's gonna make the team, um um. And then well

0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and then well you've got jarn Curse and darry and

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Thompson who I like. I Darien didn't play well at safety,

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>but that's not the point. It's the eternal battle between

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<v Speaker 1>the special team's coach who wants and Darien Thompson is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the two or three best special teamers on

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.879
<v Speaker 1>this team. Jayron Curse has a special team's reputation as well.

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So now it's you know, the front office probably favors

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the draft pick and the coaching staff probably favors these

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 1>veterans who were versatile, and that's an interesting that's an

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:16.399
<v Speaker 1>interesting conversation. But Israel mcquamu is doing everything he can

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to make them want to side with him, in my opinion, Yeah,

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Steve and Jones he didn't he wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to pronounce his name, but he did say it to

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<v Speaker 1>me the other day on an interview that he that

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<v Speaker 1>he really liked what what Israel is doing out there

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.319
<v Speaker 1>and just loves the matchup. Um that he can do

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:34.359
<v Speaker 1>covering tight ends. Um My, I have a couple. I mean,

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I think Dorin's armstrong is I mean, he is a phenomenal.

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>He's been outstanding and we all can see that. Um.

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 1>And then I lost my other guy. I think I

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta stole this point from Dave at one point during

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<v Speaker 1>a show, But we did talk about once the pads

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<v Speaker 1>come on, and once we start playing games, you're going

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 1>to see how physical Keyan O'Neill is. We're not seeing

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it as much early in practice, but once you really

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<v Speaker 1>start getting the type of play that he's used to,

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>he's going to start to show out more. And I

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 1>think that he's doing that. I think not only did

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>he did he force a fumble, he had a really

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 1>nice stop on third down short of the game, short

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of the line of scrimmage. You know, he did it

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.279
<v Speaker 1>at the end of camp two with a pick like that.

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he's finding his role in the nickel and

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and I still think it would be a vanilla defense

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of what dan Quinn's gonna really how they're going to

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.720
<v Speaker 1>utilize him because he's never played him as linebacker before,

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>so it'll be interesting to see. I think though, he's

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.280
<v Speaker 1>starting to kind of come on here, and so that's

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 1>a good thing. I'll throw this out there too, because

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned Jabril Cox, which he looks really good obviously,

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, he's getting the opportunity in games, he's

0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>making the most of it. He's led the team in

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:46.880
<v Speaker 1>tackles both preseason games. I care a lot less about

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the plays that he makes on defense. He made it

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 1>nice tackle on a kickoff return that it might not

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:56.319
<v Speaker 1>have saved a touchdown, but I think the guy got

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to the thirty five. He was going across midfield for sure,

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and Cox just knifed into his lane and brought him down.

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:05.439
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's what I care about, because he could

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:07.600
<v Speaker 1>be the biggest steal in the entire draft. He's still not.

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>He's not getting on the field on defense unless something

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 1>terrible happens. I mean, there's just too many bodies in

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 1>front of him. And when you guys talk about earlier,

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about those big bodies that are now out injured.

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Guy like him becoming very very more because he's a

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:22.279
<v Speaker 1>big body that can special teams for him. And like

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>before I started doing this job, that is that's that's

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>what you need to look for. Like, if I'm talking

0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:29.799
<v Speaker 1>to somebody who's trying to analyze these preseason games, a

0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:32.320
<v Speaker 1>guy like Jabril Cox showing that he can make plays

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.920
<v Speaker 1>like that on special teams is huge. Like, I mean,

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.279
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna make the team regardless, but you see him

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:39.359
<v Speaker 1>doing stuff like that, now you're like, Okay, this guy

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>can get a jersey on game day. He can do this,

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that and the other. So that was really enaging and

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>his answer about it when when he was asked about,

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, playing special teams, he was like, that's that's

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 1>what I need to own that part of the game.

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 1>That's all that is is. You know, this doesn't sound

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like a rookie. He said, special teams is a one

0:56:57.440 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 1>on one battle. There's one guy that's gonna block me.

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>If I can beat him, i can go make the play.

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I'm not gonna not gonna be blocked

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and he's You're starting to see that and that's a

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 1>great mentality, especially for a guy that was at North

0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Dakota State. He probably wasn't playing a lot of special

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>teams there and when he went to LSU a daddy

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>was playing a ton But he comes here and understands

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that role and embraces it and really kind of relat

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how he makes the team and that Dave said,

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how you get on the field for game day.

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It's super encouraging too, because we, I mean, okay, he's

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>behind Micah Layton, Jalen and Kean O'Neil, Like where are

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the defensive snaps coming from? And so you know, I

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.120
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people and honestly, I was kind

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of discouraged myself first two weeks of practice, like this

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 1>guy hasn't done anything. What's going on? But what do

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you do with your opportunity? He gets him in these

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>games and he's I mean, he's putting good looking tape

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>out there in my opinion, which is that's really fun

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>for him for a guy that you know, there's not

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of opportunities in practice. That's a route. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be back on Wednesday, and make sure you come

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<v Speaker 1>out tonight if you're in town to a Cowboys Night

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you check it out online. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Eatman, Dave helm and I'm Derek Eagleton. This has

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