1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Alright, this is Chase that Lee. This is a Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: Andrew Painter lives up to the hype, making his major 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: league debut on Tuesday Night at Citizens Bank Park. Just 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: a really really fun night at the ballpark. We're gonna 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: get into it every inch, every moment of Tuesday Night's 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Andrew Painter debut. 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: It's Ruben, tomar Junior, Jim. 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Salisbury, Todd z Aleki, The Philly Show. It's Wednesday, April first, 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: April Fools Day. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: April fools Man, oh man, But last come up with 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: a couple. We need to come up with a couple, 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: but not at April Fools Andrew Painter. I mean, just 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: a fun debut, Ruben, A lot of fun to watch. 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: We've heard about it, We've anticipated it, no doubt Andrew Painter's. 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Anticipated it and thought about it. 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: But you you almost couldn't have drawn it up any 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 2: better than than what we saw last night. 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 4: Really happy and proud of the kid because it's so 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 4: much hype associated with it. But it shows you the 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: level headedness of what he is about and the poise 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 4: that he's that I've seen since he was nineteen years old. 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 4: I saw him running around on the minor league fields, 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: taking ground balls and pfps and doing his business, and 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: he looked serious and athletic, and there always seemed to 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: be a purpose, even at a very young age, about 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 4: everything that he did. 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: And I know it's been a long road for him. 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a guy who probably should have 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: been in the big leagues about a year and a 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: half ago, had he progressed without having those, you know, 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 4: the elbow problems of TJ and such. It was delayed 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: for a while, and then they decided to go ahead 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: and do it. Probably should have done it right away, 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: but I mean, I understand they're trying to not to 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: cut on the guy, but for him to pitch the 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: way he did, really with the Phillies not playing very well, 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: sort of had to be a stopper in some ways. 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: The offense is poor. 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: You know, there's the pressure of one pitching in your 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 4: very first major league game to the hype that you know, 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: associated with being so famous for so long. 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: And then he delivered. His stuff was really good. 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: Just to get into some of his stuff, he threw strikes, 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: He mixed all of his pitches in through five or 47 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: six varieties of pitches, had a change up, working good curveball, 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: a little cutter they called it a sliders, a little 49 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: more of our little cut on a slider, and and 50 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: you know, through a little split that was pretty good 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 4: on a split change. It's interesting that he goes in 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: with a split grip in his glove pretty much all 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: the time and then he makes the adjustment. But so 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: many things associated what he did against a team that's 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: super aggressive, team that's putting the ball in play. I 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: was impressed. I mean, he faced a ton of left 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: handers and he's had some struggles against left handers, but 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: he handled him really well. 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: Worked great with JT. 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: And the fact that he ended up you know, five 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: each shouldn't even have given up an earn run, really, 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 4: but he gave up an earn run. That was you 63 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: know that he wasn't on the mound for. But you know, 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: very few issues with his command. Eight strikeouts, really good stuff. 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 4: I was really impressed. 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 5: Very exciting night to be there. This seemed like a moment. Honestly, 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 5: he was destined for from the night they drafted him 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 5: back in what June twenty one, and you know, because 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: you draft a kid thirteenth overall he's got a great 70 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 5: pitcher's body, and the profile on him from day one 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: was the guy, a guy who projects to be at 72 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 5: the top of a rotation, Dave Dombroski, who's seen an 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 5: awful lot of baseball and doesn't throw around names lightly 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: compared with to Justin Verlanders. A very young man, and 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 5: he was projected to be in that rotation three years 76 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: ago in twenty twenty three. A lot of heartache along 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: the way, an injury, and that can be very, very 78 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 5: tough when you're talking about your arm, your money maker, 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, now it doesn't work. They 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 5: fixed him up, he rehabbed, then he went through a 81 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: really tough time last year, kind of you know, getting 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 5: his legs back, struggled with his command, made some adjustments 83 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 5: this winter, and came out and just dazzled in his 84 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 5: big league debut. Like I said, a moment, I felt 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 5: like he was destined for for a long time. I 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 5: think about quote Rob Thompson had after his second or 87 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 5: third start in spring training said, he looks like a 88 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 5: big leaguer, And he looks like a big leaguer. I 89 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 5: love the way he carries himself. He's not like you know, 90 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 5: mister meteor media darling, and that's fine. His job is 91 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 5: to throw strikes and win ball games. He shows up, 92 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 5: he's got these blinders on, totally focused, enjoys the moment, 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 5: has a great sincere smile on his face. I always 94 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 5: like it on the head shots on the scoreboard when 95 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 5: a guy smiles and he's got a really nice sincere 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 5: smile on his face in that headshot, nice smile on 97 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 5: his face postgame interviews. But when he gets on that mound, 98 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: he's kind of a demon. And I love that first inning. 99 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 5: I mean, that breaking ball on James Woods was something special. 100 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 5: It's a left hander for that first strikeout, just an 101 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 5: incredibly memorable night. I was sticking back to a lot 102 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 5: of the debuts I've seen over the years, going back 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 5: to Carlton Lower in nineteen ninety eight, he was their 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: first rounder. In nineteen ninety four, he pitched a complete 105 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 5: game at the VET. I remember going down and talking 106 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 5: to his parents in his stands afterward and how giddy 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 5: they were and proud they were. And I mean Pat 108 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 5: Burle's debut down on Houston was something. Brett Myers in 109 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: Wrigley Field, Aaron Nola few years ago against Tampa a 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 5: decade ago. Now at home, and then of course you 111 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: know Randy Wolf and Cole Hamil's in Cincinnati. It's just 112 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: this is another one to stack up, and it was 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: special and you feel like you were there when the 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 5: first brick was laid on what might be a pretty 115 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 5: impressive edifice going forward. 116 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: I was at that Cole Hamill's debut in two thousand 118 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 2: and six in Cincinnati, and I remember after the game. 119 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: I think Cole pitched like five scoreless innings. He pitched 120 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: pretty well, struck out Ken Griffy Junior in the first thing. 121 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: But I remember after the game, specifically talking to Rial Cormier, 122 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: and Cormier is like, this kid does not look like 123 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: he is a rookie pitching the big leagues for the 124 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: first time. He looked so relaxed and his poise was 125 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: just ridiculous, and that always stuck with me. Real Cormier 126 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 2: saying that of the all time good guys. 127 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: And heard a. 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: Lot of the same things last night talking to his teammates. 129 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber said, you know, I saw no pacing around 130 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: in the clubhouse before the game. He seemed very relaxed. 131 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: JT. 132 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: Real Muto said just the last few games, couple of games. 133 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: Any conversation I had with him, he was great. He's like, 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: I was so impressed with how much he knew about 135 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: the Nationals hitters, you know, Monday Tuesday, going into that start, 136 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: he knew a lot about the Nationals hitters. He'd done 137 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: a lot of watch some video, done a lot of studying. 138 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: He said in the pregame planning meeting with you know, 139 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: Caleb Covam and the pitching staff, very relaxed, no nerves. 140 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: You know, Brandon Marsh said the same things, like guy 141 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: looked like he had been here before. The guy had 142 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: looked like he had been here before. So showed a 143 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of poise. 144 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 5: And you know, have you mentioned you mentioned j I 145 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 5: think he's very fortunate to have JT. I mean people 146 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: made a big deal of he didn't shake off JT. Well, 147 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 5: he nobody shakes off JT. The guy knows how to 148 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 5: lead a pitching staff, but a young kid eleven days 149 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: before his twenty third birthday big league debut hotly anticipated. 150 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: I mean, having JT at the helm is a gift. 151 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 5: And I know he hasn't hit. I know people are 152 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 5: like they signed JT's three years. This guy contributes in 153 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 5: a lot more ways than just the batter's box, and 154 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 5: what he hasn't brought in the batter's box yet. 155 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: Right. 156 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: So the thing that, yeah, the thing that you said 157 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 4: that comes out that that stands out to me about 158 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 4: JT is that he's developed this He's gotten better and 159 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: better over the years. I mean, it just didn't happen, 160 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: you know, immediately. I mean he was always a very 161 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: dedicated defender, but I think he became better and better 162 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: as his careers moved forward, and he's become sort of 163 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: that yachty Air Molina type guy that you can sit back. 164 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: He's like a comfortable shoe, you know. You know he's 165 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: back there. You know he's prepared. You know, he knows 166 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: what he's doing back there and how he wants to 167 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: attack hitters, and he knows he knows that he understands 168 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: his pitching staff. 169 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: So that's a great point that you make. 170 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: The other point I wanted to make about his preparation 171 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 4: in Andrew Paynter's preparation is I think we talked about 172 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: this before, but one of the cool things I may 173 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: have talked about it in a different platform, The one 174 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: thing that I noticed in the games prior as I 175 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: was watching some of the games on TV. He was 176 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: standing right behind Caleb Cotham and with the other pitchers, 177 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: the other starting pitchers, all game long, studying, talking, watching, 178 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 4: listening as the game went on, when they were on 179 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball, as the Phillies' pitchers 180 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: were out there firing against against this team, the Washington 181 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: Nationals young hitters, and just that level of maturity and 182 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: that level of preparation, that's the kind of stuff that 183 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: separates the good pictures and the quality pictures from the 184 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: great ones. 185 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: And uh and. 186 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: I think the Phillies fans are are going to be 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: pretty happy with the fact that this guy is as 188 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: dedicated a player as he is, and he's not just 189 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: going to rest on his law Laurels. He's not gonna 190 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: He's gonna get knocked around a little bit. There's no 191 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: question about it. It's gonna happen. This is the major leagues. 192 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: They're major league hitters. There's a reason why he's not 193 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 4: gonna go out there and throw one zero E r 194 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: A up there but from it. But this kid's gonna 195 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 4: learn from it, and they'll get better from it and 196 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: that's that's the beauty of what I think he's going 197 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: to bring to the table too. 198 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: So uh, the other day I wrote this kind of big, 199 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: big oral history, Ruben, to your point on Andrew Painter's career, 200 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: talking to people from high school all the way up 201 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: through Triple A last year. 202 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: And. 203 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: Talking to the Triple A pitching coaches Phil Candari matt 204 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: Elmeyer last season, they said the same thing, and I 205 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: think it was Phil said, one of the coolest things 206 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: for me to see about Andrew Painter is I'll notice 207 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: it out of the corner of my he says. I 208 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: wish I could have a camera kind of capture it. 209 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: When he's not pitching, he'll start the game at one 210 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: end of the dugout, and then he'll have conversations with 211 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: these guys, and then he'll have conversations with these guys, 212 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: and then we'll have conversations with these guys, and then 213 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, around the seventh inning, I will 214 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: feel him standing behind me in the dugout and he's 215 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: just kind of staying there and he's kind of waiting, 216 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: he said, He's kind of waiting for me to engage him, 217 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: and he will ask it then he will engage and 218 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: he will start asking a lot of questions like why 219 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: is the infield in here? Why do you think this 220 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: guy does that? Is this what you're talking about? What's 221 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 2: going on here? So he's constantly kind of learning from guys. 222 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: He really loves to to pick things up and they say, 223 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, down the road, this is going to really 224 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: help them. This is why the infield's in, this is 225 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: what to expect in this situation, and they he said 226 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: that that was just a really cool part of what 227 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: of working with him in Triple A last year. So 228 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 2: having him work with that, seeing him stand next to 229 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: Wheeler and Lozardo and Nola, that's going to be a 230 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: thing that you kind of see going forward. And those 231 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: guys are obviously great examples. Nobody, none, None of those 232 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: guys are sitting in the clubhouse during a game when 233 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: they're not pitching, eating ice cream. 234 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the rooms. I love that. Yeah, I love that 235 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: about that. 236 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: I love that about the staff. It's a difference maker, man, 237 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 4: when they're out there caring about their teammate number one 238 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: and also learning from the game by watching the game 239 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: with their eyes, not with a video camera, not with 240 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: a iPad, but watching the baseball game. 241 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: I think that's a really important element. I was wondering, and. 242 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: I want to ask you guys this so as I 243 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: as you guys are talking, as I'm thinking about this 244 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 4: young man and I don't know him all that well. 245 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: I've only had like, you know, small conversation with him, 246 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: but I observed him a lot. 247 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: I wonder does he remind you. 248 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: At all of Chase Utley with the way he handles 249 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: things as far as just his overall demeanors, not like 250 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: he's you said it, Jim, He's not going to be 251 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: a media darling. 252 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: He's not. I mean, he's going to be a very 253 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: He's guarded. He's guarded with his with his uh. 254 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 4: And calculated with his comments. He'll I think he'll post 255 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 4: up and he'll be there for you for the media, 256 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: but and does his job. But I think he's so 257 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 4: focused on excellence. It just seems like he's that kind 258 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: of a guy. He's so focused on excellence and winning 259 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: and performing that I sort of see a young, you know, 260 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: Chase Utley sort of demeanor about him. 261 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 5: Definitely, I know, I definitely hear what you're saying, and 262 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 5: I think it's definitely appropriate comparison. I think Chase it 263 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 5: might have been organic. I think this kid was schooled 264 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 5: a little bit that there's gonna be a lot of 265 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 5: eyeballs on you, a lot of spotlight on you. Your 266 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 5: job is to pitch. Here's how you go about it, 267 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: here's how you focus. I think there's a lot. I 268 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 5: think he's a very bright guy. I think he's a 269 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 5: very very smart kid. As you guys articulate the way 270 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: he pays attention to a game. I think he's a 271 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 5: student of pitching. And I think that even goes beyond, 272 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: you know, the bullpen, the pitcher's mode. I think goes 273 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 5: into how he just handles himself in the public eye. 274 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: He's remarkably mature. And but it was very impressed and 275 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 5: Todd you mentioned that story. I can't recommend folks reading 276 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: that enough. It is a great look at this kid's 277 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 5: journey through the people who know him best, covering a 278 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 5: long period of time in his development. It is so 279 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: well worth your time. I've read it twice and I'll 280 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: probably read it again because now that you know we've 281 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: seen this debut, it even takes on a different context 282 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: for me. So I know how hard you worked on 283 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 5: that story for literally multiple years, and it was really. 284 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 6: Great aside As an aside from that, well, I thought 285 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 6: was really interesting having watched the game on TV and 286 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 6: watching some of the some of the stuff that was 287 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 6: going on. 288 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: I noticed how excited this is kind of funny. I 289 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: noticed when they flashed to the family, how excited the 290 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: mom was, like every time something positive happens. She was really, 291 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: you know, genuinely excited for him and his fiance. Shelby 292 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: was just sitting back, going this is what I expect, 293 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: this is what I think. 294 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: It was weird, like it was strange, like she wasn't 295 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: jumping up like a crazy you know, significant other or 296 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: anything like that. She was just sort of taking it in. 297 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: It's it sort of seem like she took on I 298 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: don't know what a person. 299 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: I've never really never really talked to her or met her, 300 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: but it just seemed like, you know, she the family 301 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: is a lot more excited than the fiance, and I 302 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: thought that that was an interesting anecdote as I was 303 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: watching the game. 304 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know how I would react 305 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: having my son pitch in a big league game. I 306 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: mean I would be I'd be a nervous wreck absolutely bad, 307 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: absolute bad. A couple more things than Andrew paid the 308 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: comments Tuesday night coming out of the Nationals clubhouse, I 309 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: just want to blake Butterra, the Nationals manager, said, really good, 310 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: that was as advertised. He's going to be a really 311 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: good pitcher in this game for a long time. That 312 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: was pretty impressive stuff. And then James Wood, who struck 313 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: out twice, he was asked, does he remind you of anybody? 314 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: No, not really. 315 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean now he's Andrew Bainter, so he's a good 316 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: pitcher in his own right. So you know, that was 317 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty good, and I just wanted 318 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: a little graphic here on looking at his eight strikeouts, 319 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: you can see the change up, curveball, slider. He got 320 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: three strikeouts on the change up, two on the curveball, 321 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: two on the slider, and that last strikeout, his eighth 322 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: and final strikeout was in the fifth inning against James 323 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: Wood in ninety seven mile an hour fastball. 324 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: So, you know, just just a really impressive. 325 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 5: And Ruby you made the point Rubin that, you know, hey, 326 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 5: great debut. Part of the learning curve is some night 327 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 5: he's going to struggle. Some night he's going to get 328 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 5: his nose bloodied. It happens, but he is so smart 329 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 5: he'll learn from it. He talked about that the day 330 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 5: before the start, how much he learned from failure last year, 331 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 5: And in my mind it brought me back to Cole 332 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 5: Hammill's who you know, pitches this team through a World 333 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: Series title in oh wait, struggles in nine and we'll 334 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 5: tell you he learned more about himself in nine than 335 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 5: he did in O eight because he learned from failure. 336 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: So I thought that was interesting. 337 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: I think also what was interesting was, you know, they 338 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: made a little tiny justment on his hand position I 339 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: think as far as r. Mango is concerned, and one, 340 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: I think it makes it a little bit more deceptive 341 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: in two, and it also brings back a little bit more 342 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: of the command. I was impressed by the fact that 343 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: even I think I had eight out of the first 344 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 4: eleven first hitters he got ahead of but even as 345 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 4: he did went on the times that he did not 346 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 4: get ahead of his of the hitter, he could come 347 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 4: back and throw a breaking ball for a strike. And 348 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: if you can do that in the major leagues, you've 349 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: got a chance to be especially as good a spin 350 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 4: as he puts on the baseball. If he can do 351 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: that consistently, boy oh boy, and and he that was 352 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: one of the things that sort of impressed me that 353 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: even when he got behind, he didn't have certainly have 354 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: to throw a fastball to get there to back to 355 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 4: one one or even that he could spin a break 356 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: and ball, throw a split and that was that was impressive. 357 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: To me too. 358 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: That was If you're watching us on YouTube, don't forget 359 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: to hit the subscribe button. We're trying to get to 360 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand subscriptions on YouTube. 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I mean, where would the Phillies 372 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: be right. 373 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: Now without guys Brandon marsh right, But I mean, you know, 374 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: the Phillies have been waiting for these guys for such 375 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: a long time to kind of step up or come 376 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: up and produce and to see those guys just five games, 377 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 2: the first five games of the season, but really important. 378 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: I know, Jim, you wrote about that today on NBC 379 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: Sports Philadelphia dot Com. 380 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: So check out that story, Jim. 381 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what made you kind of want 382 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: to delve into delve into that. 383 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 5: You know, Ruben mentioned Brandon Marsh want a catch to 384 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 5: end the game. 385 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: That was him, right, Yes, Brandon Marsh really really really 386 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: nice catch. So real quick, Jim, before you get into that, 387 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: I just want to mention that catch. I said to 388 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: brand I go, that was a pretty good catch. He's like, yeah, 389 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: you know, It's. 390 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: Like the thing is, it's like I was. 391 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: I was about five steps in because I'm thinking, if 392 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: he's going to be he's gonna be late. He's going 393 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: to hit a ground ball, shoot it through the hole. 394 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to need to come up throwing. So he 395 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: was in about five feet so then of course he's like, 396 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: of course, then he barrels it and like hits it 397 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: to that hit, gets it in the air and lost 398 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: his left field so he had to book it back 399 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: there and make that catch. 400 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, but Hey, look, it's really early in 401 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 5: the season, but they really needed that win last night. 402 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 5: They had lost three in a row. They've been getting 403 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 5: booed at home. Their big guns haven't done much at 404 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 5: the plate. There's so much heightened attention on the start 405 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: of the season. They needed a victory. But even beyond that, 406 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: they need a night like this for the organization where 407 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: they can take two twenty two year olds, two twenty 408 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 5: two year olds and put them in the middle of 409 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 5: the diamond and get contributions like they got from twenty 410 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 5: two year old Andrew Painter and twenty two year old 411 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 5: center fielder Justin Crawford. Had a big hit in the 412 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 5: fifth end, came around to score that third run. He's 413 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 5: played good defense so far. Had another big hit against 414 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 5: Texas the other day, a couple on opening Day. Right, 415 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 5: this is an organization we all like the roster. It 416 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 5: is a good roster. It's a team that should play 417 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 5: in October. But it's an aging roster with guys into 418 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: their mid thirties, a bunch of guys pushing their mid thirties. 419 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 5: This organization really desperately needs an infusion of life at 420 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 5: the top of youth, at the top end and to 421 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: get these two guys contributing now and what how it 422 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 5: could impact the future is huge, and it's huge for 423 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: player development. It's huge for scouting to get these guys here. 424 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 5: It's huge for your draft to see these type of results. 425 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: And if they can ever get Aiden Miller healthy and 426 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 5: he can join this crew in a year or so. 427 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: So this was a win that even went beyond Tuesday night. 428 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 5: To me, it can cast shadows going forward and some youth, 429 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 5: some energy, and just some good young players that you 430 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 5: can grow around. You can see this kid in the 431 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 5: center field for ten years. You could seek Pander in 432 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 5: the rotation for ten years, top of the for ten years. 433 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: Very very important night, even beyond the win. 434 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 4: You make a great point, Jim, and I go back 435 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: to what Paul Owens Poe Paul Owens used to say, 436 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: if you can get contribution from one or one and 437 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: a half players from your system or young players per year, that's. 438 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 3: Going to sustain your ability to have success. 439 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: And in this case, it could be two players, and 440 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm hopeful that one they stay healthy and two they 441 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 4: just keep doing their thing and not feel like they 442 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 4: have to carry the team, because that's certainly not there 443 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 4: that's not what they're being paid to do. That's not 444 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 4: why they're here. They're here to contribute, obviously, but it's 445 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 4: the big boys. They have to come through, and they haven't, 446 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: and so they will. At some point they'll start to produce. 447 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: One other thing that I will say that it's nice 448 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: to see a Dolus Garcia do some damage big for 449 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 4: him to come up with a home run. He was 450 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: an important element in this as well, and I'd like 451 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 4: to see him continue to contribut as well. 452 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: Totally agree. You need the big boys. The big boys 453 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 5: are going to dictate a lot, but you also need 454 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 5: the sprinkling of contribution from your younger guys, your younger 455 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 5: number one picks, because guess what, Eventually, you know that's sprinkling. 456 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 5: They're going to become the big boys. That's how an 457 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 5: organization sustains. 458 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 459 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: Justin Crawford, we were talking earlier about Painter and kind 460 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: of how polished he is, and and talking to Justin 461 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: it's kind of the the same thing. You know, he 462 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: comes from a baseball family, his dad obviously, Carl Crawford, 463 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: and but talking to him is just you know, he 464 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: seems very comfortable. 465 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like it's he's. 466 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, I'm a big I'm nervous, I'm 467 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: super nervous being here. And teammates have said the same 468 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: thing about him. 469 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: So I think the spot like jumps on these guys 470 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 4: so much earlier now, and I think that they are 471 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: exposed to the media, they're exposed to the questioning, they're 472 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: exposed to the notoriety so early in their careers now 473 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 4: that they're sort of, you know, even if they didn't 474 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: play collegiate baseball, which you know, some of the college 475 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: guys are a little bit more polished just because they've 476 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: been around more media, more stuff. You know, guys are 477 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 4: just a little bit more polished. And and kudos to 478 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: the organization and to their parents and to their upbringing 479 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 4: for for them to prepare them for these moments. 480 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 481 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 5: I find this Crawford kid to be a real kind 482 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 5: of a delight to talk to. 483 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: I love them. 484 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's all right, He's okay, he's more He's 485 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: going to be more than okay. 486 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely is. So what Rubin, you mentioned the Adolay 487 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: Scarcia getting that home run last night, and man, he 488 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: needed that. The whole offense needed at the top four 489 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: hitters in the Phillies lineup Trey Turner, kleish Warber, Bryce Harper, 490 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: Alec Bohm batting a combined one so far to start 491 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: the season. 492 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: Is that good? That's good? 493 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: Not good? 494 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: That's not good. 495 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: One double, three home runs, eight RBIs. 496 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: One double, yeah, one double. 497 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: One double amongst those top four guys. That's yeah, the top. 498 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 2: So I look this up this morning. The top two 499 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: hitters in the Phillies lineup. That's Trey Turner uh and 500 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber five eighty six OPS. That's twenty six in baseball. 501 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: Those top two spots in the lineup. The three through 502 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: six hitters five eighteen OPS twenty sixth in baseball, and 503 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: the seven through nine hitters seven sixty one OPS eighth 504 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: and baseball. So right now it's you kind of expect 505 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 2: to be the reverse. 506 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: It will get better. 507 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: The fans want them to, want them to flip the lineup. Yeah, 508 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: flip the line in the one hole. 509 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: Put Crawford in the one hole. How can you rest 510 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: this guy first? 511 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, no, I know, exactly exactly, prushure. 512 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 5: Just let him get his feet wet. 513 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: Yes, correct, correct. 514 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: People really up in arms about Crawford not playing the 515 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 2: other day. And the point I've been trying to make 516 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: the people is it was against the lefty. You're trying 517 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: to ease them in. You know, give him a break 518 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: against the left he gets some you know you Rubin, 519 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: you guys did this with Chase Sutley. 520 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 4: You guys is gonna say the same thing, Ryan Howard. 521 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: You gotta ease them man, Man, I mean, listen, yeah, 522 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 4: go ahead. 523 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: No no, no, go ahead, go ahead, Rubin. 524 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 4: I just feel like there's so much pressure on these guys. 525 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: Just let him ease into it. 526 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 4: Eventually he's gonna play every day, it's gonna happen. 527 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: Just ease him into it. 528 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I know that people are like, just play 529 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 4: the guy, Just play them well. I mean, there's an 530 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 4: art to developing players confidence, Get them a breather, get 531 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: them off their feet. 532 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty two games for a rookie. They've 533 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: never done it before in their lives. 534 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: He's never played one hundred and twenty games. 535 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 4: I'll be the first to tell you when I had 536 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 4: a chance to take over for Lenn Diisch Lenny Dykstra, 537 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: I was dying to get a day off after my 538 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: fourth zero for five in a row. I needed a 539 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 4: mental break and I did not get one because back 540 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: then the thought process was just keep playing, you'll play 541 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 4: your way through it, you'll be fine. 542 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: Well I could have used it, and. 543 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: I just feel like it's something that mentally, it's not 544 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: a physical thing as much as it as a mental 545 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 4: and emotional thing. And don't worry that Crawford kid. He's 546 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 4: gonna be playing every day. 547 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely. It was less about we got to get Justin 548 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: off his feed so, you know, and more of just 549 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: bring him along slowly. You know, he had never I 550 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: think he's last season. He played a career high one 551 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen games. 552 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 5: So it wasn't like he put wasn't like I was 553 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: out there. It's not like he put his feet up. 554 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 5: I mean he was on the field of two thirty 555 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 5: doing a ton of war, you know, defensively, offensively. It 556 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: was a workday for them, just a different kind of 557 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 5: work day. 558 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 3: Correct. 559 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So let's let's let's close on this Phillies rotation. 560 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: One time, the rotation one time through. 561 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: They Christopher Sanchez is going to make his second start 562 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: of the season Wednesday afternoon against the Nationals, and Zach 563 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: Wheeler is going to make another rehab start on Friday 564 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: for Triple A and Durham. 565 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: So you know, one time. 566 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: Through Sanchez Painter, the other three not so good, not 567 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: so good. There's a lot of room to go up, guys. 568 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: There's, as mister used to say, a lot of room 569 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: for improvement. 570 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 5: There's always read a lot of time too, A lot 571 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 5: of time, A. 572 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: Lot of time, a lot of time. 573 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: So anyway, I just wanted to kind of mention that 574 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: as we go, I'm pressing all these buttons here as 575 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: none of them are popping up on their go there time. Yeah, 576 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: take yourself, I'm yeah, you know, it's funny. 577 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 3: The only time pleasure don't get flustered. 578 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: The only time that Andrew Painter didn't stay within himself. 579 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: He said he almost forgot to uh tip his cap 580 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: to the crowd after Rob Thompson on the mound said 581 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: he gave. 582 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 5: A nice, nice doph, he actually removed it. 583 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: Yes, an old schooler, Yeah, that was very old school. 584 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of Royality walking off the 585 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: mound after the postseason no hitter in twenty ten. 586 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: He was a good good hat tip. 587 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: I love I love the doff of the cap man. 588 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 4: That's really really cool. I mean it was neat the 589 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 4: way the fans rallied around him. I mean that's an 590 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: important element. The connection with the fans has been a 591 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: big thing for. 592 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: The Phillies over the last several years. 593 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: I know people are souring because they're not finishing off 594 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 4: the deal, but there's a connection with the fans and 595 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 4: this team that's pretty special, and I think that's an 596 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: important element. I think it's an important element for all 597 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: sports teams to have a connection with their fans because 598 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: the fans are the ones that pay their salaries. 599 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 5: Baby, Without the fans, none of this exists, none. 600 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: Of it absolutely, And it was a great It was 601 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: a fun night last night. I think a lot of 602 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: the people that are there last night, they're going to 603 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: be you know, if Andrew Painter does what everybody thinks 604 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: he can do and what they hope he can do, 605 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: there's gonna be forty one thousand people twenty years. 606 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: From now going. 607 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: I was there. 608 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: I was so h that was fun, guys. 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