1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of I 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: and there's Chuck and Jerry just laughed. So it's just 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: me and Chuck being bad boys going through our stamp collection. 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, the purposefully silent Jerry. By the way, Yeah, 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: it's her own choice. Yeah, she's a real, live human being, 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Jerry said. Plenty of chances we've asked her, and she 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: loves being in the background and not being on the show. 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: I just want to make that clear. She's a wallflower. 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: M a lazy, semi useless wall flower that we love 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: like a sister, that's right, and who keeps us in line, 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: an who may or may not even exist. That's right. 13 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about stamps, baby, So I already said we're 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: talking about stamp collect thing. Oh and by the way, 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: this is stuff you should know. I think that it's 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: not an official episode until I say that. What do 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: you think that's our watermark? Okay, yeah, nice reference, Chucks. 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about those there. Wow, you have been 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: doing this for a while, haven't you a couple of years? So, um, 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: we're talking stamp collecting. I don't collect stamps. I never 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: have collected stamps. Um, I've never been friends with somebody 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: who collected stamps. As far as I know, no relatives 23 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: of collected stamps. Do you ever collect anything? I collected 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: baseball cards, the usual, you know, But it turns out 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: I would I would posit that stamp collecting is vastly 26 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: more popular than baseball card collecting. As as popular as 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: baseball card collecting is, I think, if you're talking worldwide, 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: probably so, yeah, for sure, because I mean over in 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: some countries they don't even care about baseball. They're like, 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know who Freddie Freeman is. I like 31 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: the alliteration, but I don't know who he is. They should, 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: he's great. I remember when he was a rookie. Do 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: you have a rookie card? No? I stopped collecting baseball 34 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: cards when I aged out of the well baseball card age. Yea, 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was long before Freddie Freeman. No, I 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: don't have one of his cards, do you. No? I 37 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: don't collect baseball cards. I collected banks. I think I've 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: talked about that before. Uh No, I don't know why 39 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: it's weird. I think I just had more than one 40 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: of them and then said, well, this is a start 41 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: to something. And I collected, Like, I mean, technically there 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: were piggy banks, but none of them were big, So 43 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think I had like thirty or forty 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: banks at one point when I was a kid, little banks. 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: I suspected you were talking about banks, banks like you'd 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: walk around and like slap your hand on like a 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: fifth third and been like, I just collected this bank 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: something like that. So piggy banks that weren't pigs yeah, 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, it was like a just bank. Little banks. Yeah, 50 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: what was the coolest one you had? I got one 51 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: from like a NAPA Auto Parts that was a car 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: battery bank, and that was that was kind of cool. 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: I remember that stands out in my memory for some 54 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: reason I can imagine, but cool, I don't know is 55 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the right word for it. But okay, that's the only 56 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: one who can really remember. I had a Mickey Mouse bank, 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: but who does think it went too I had a 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: Spiderman piggy bank the bust of you know, myteen seventies 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: spider Man and I broke it open with a hammer 60 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: and used all the money inside to buy candy and 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: two lunches at school for a stretch. It was like 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: I was walking around like I was the King of 63 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: England in the cafeteria. I thought you gonna be like 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: my first pack of cigarettes. There was just a few 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: short years before then. But yeah, stamp collecting, I've never 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: known anyone who's done it, but it is hugely popular 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: and it seems like a really kind of lovely pleasant 68 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: thing because, as is pointed out here in this uh article, 69 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: who was this was this ed grabstr Uh, it's like, 70 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, collecting little pieces of art, little tiny works 71 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: of art exactly. But even more than that, stamps have 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: a very deep, detailed, intricate, arcane history, and I mean 73 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: stamps in general, but also every single individual stamp and 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: the stamp collecting community really loves to dig into that 75 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: history and you know, all about all the different stuff 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: about every single stamp um and so there's a lot 77 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: of information to absorb while you're collecting, which I think 78 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: is one of the big draws of collecting anything, is 79 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: the background information to it. To definitely, like look at 80 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: you can enjoy a stamp just on its face, pretty 81 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: its neat is really well done usually, or at least 82 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: the ones that are worth collecting. But the idea sure 83 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: that too, but the idea and it has you know, 84 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: a history just from sometimes being old, but then also 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: the idea that it has a backstory to Um, it's 86 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: just about as as well rounded a hobby as as 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: you could find. So another term for stamp collecting is 88 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: called hi lately p h i l a t e 89 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: l y. It's not the easiest word to spell until 90 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: you stop and think about it, but it's derived from 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: the words philo or love of like philosophy, love of knowledge. 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: But this is love of atalia, and that is exemption 93 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 1: from payment. So you would use a stamp to show 94 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: that whatever you were sending or whatever is exempt from payment. 95 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: You already paid. So really hi lately means love of 96 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: stamps in a really round about way. To see, I 97 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: heard it pronounced philately. Really we'll go with that one then, 98 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: because I've just been pronouncing that that way in my 99 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: head for a very long time. There you have it. 100 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: Who is that with you? Her name is uh mispronunciation, 101 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: Emma says mispronunciation, Yeah, ms, mispronunciation. We're not going to 102 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: assume anything, you know. One of the things very good. 103 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: One of the things that that I've noticed in queuing 104 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: episodes is how many jokes of your slide right past 105 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: me while you're saying them, and I don't catch him 106 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: until I'm queueing an episode later on. So so many 107 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: hats off for all those jokes that I've missed. If 108 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna get into philateli or be a philatelist, then 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: you should know that it's not like a get rich 110 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: quick thing. You do it sort of for the love 111 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: of the hobby itself, and as you go along over 112 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: the years, you may eventually acquire some stamps that maybe 113 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 1: worth some money, but it's not the kind of thing where, 114 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: um just get into it with the the intentions that 115 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: you should have, which is you're not gonna make a 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: ton of money doing this kind of thing. Yeah, get 117 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: into it for the love of collecting stamps. Yeah, way 118 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, that's kind of eye opening and surprising, 119 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: I think, to most of us on the outside of 120 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: the Philadeli world looking in, because you know, we hear 121 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: about these auctions where stamps go for millions of dollars, 122 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: and every once in a while they'll pop up as 123 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: like a mcguffin in a movie or something like that. Um, 124 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: so the idea that almost all stamps are the wildly 125 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: vast majority of stamps are really not worth much at all. 126 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Is is kind of surprising, or it was to me 127 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: at least, But also it just makes me love stamp 128 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: collectors that much more, you know. Yeah, And I think 129 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: one thing I really love about stamp collecting, which is 130 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: sort of towards the end of this research, but I'll 131 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: go ahead and say it now, is that it seems 132 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: like the stamp collecting purists only collect stamps that are 133 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: actually used to mail things like get out of here 134 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: with your special edition collector thing that is just printed 135 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: up for some certain you know, to give to a dignitary, 136 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: like they want stamps like mail in letter stamps. That's right. 137 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, there's a kind of 138 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: considered one of the big authorities on stamps, the Scott Catalog. 139 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: They apparently don't even recognize stamps that aren't released by 140 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: governments for the purposes of mailing postage to the general public. 141 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: If it if it's not released like that by those authorities, 142 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: then it doesn't exist as far as that's concerned. Yeah, 143 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like part of the fund is 144 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: finding these things on an old letter like a cool discovery, 145 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: and uh, I just I like the idea of it. 146 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm probably not going to get into it just because 147 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't have the time for this kind of thing, 148 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: but I can certainly appreciate it. And then there's one 149 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: other aspect of it too that I kind of turned 150 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: up from this, and I'm sure it's not entirely correct 151 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: across the board, but it seems like a person stamp 152 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: collection is a very personal thing. It says like I 153 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: am interested in this, so I went through the trouble 154 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: of ending these things. And in that sense, it almost 155 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: bears a resemblance to that super adorable coin collection that 156 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: Owen had throw Mama from the train. Remember when he 157 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: pulls out his coin collection and instead of some rare coins, 158 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: it's like a quarter that he had he got changed 159 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: for when he was at Coney Island with his dad 160 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: when he was twelve. It's it's kind of like that, 161 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's a really endearing hobby. I think, yeah, 162 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: because it's not like you're like, all right, I'm gonna 163 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: get into stamp collecting, and you know, what are the 164 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: best stamps to collect for? You know, the best stamps 165 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: to collect are the ones that speak to you. So 166 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: if you get into it for a little while and 167 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: you're like, boy, the stamps from the Roaring twenties really 168 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: are are pretty cool looking to me, or stamps with 169 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: dogs on them, or you could collect many, many kinds 170 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: of stamps. But a lot of people sort of get 171 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: into stamp collecting and realize, I like these kinds of stamps. 172 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: So that's what my collection is going to reflect exactly. 173 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, very cool. So that's am collecting everybody. 174 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: Should we take a break? Should we already? Sure, let's 175 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: do it, chuck, Let's throw caution to the wind like 176 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: every average stamp collector does. Okay, we're back, and um 177 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: we should say chuck. I think if this seems a 178 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: little weird, if the tone seems a little weird today 179 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: this is one of our less than usual Thursday recording sessions. 180 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: So it's it's always a little like more foot loose, 181 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Sure, my feet are very loose. 182 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: So we should probably give some terms here if you're 183 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: interested in getting a stamp collector, if you just want 184 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: to know a little more about it. There is a 185 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: lot of arcane jargon in slang in the world of 186 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: stamp collecting, and one of the reasons why it's been 187 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: around for almost a couple of hundred years now, and 188 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: over that time there's just kind of been successive generations 189 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: who have kind of added and refined and contributed to it. 190 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: But they all have to know what they're talking about 191 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: to one another, so they've kind of come up with 192 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of different terms to describe things. Yeah, like 193 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: in true stuff, he'sho know, fashion. This is a broad overview. 194 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: Their entire podcast dedicated to this kind of thing, right, Uh, 195 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go over some of those broad definitions. 196 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: And the first one we have to talk about is 197 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: the gum, which is that sticky stuff that killed George 198 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: Costanza's wife or fiance. Well, here's just from looking envelopes, 199 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: right or was it stamps? I guess it was envelopes, 200 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: wasn't it? But it's still gum exactly. I forgot about 201 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: that because he got the cheap the cheap stuff he 202 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: cheaped out um. So this is what's used to stick 203 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: the stamp on. If the stamp has never been used 204 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: at all, it's like this pristine little thing. It's it's 205 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: called full original gum, and then it's called new gum 206 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: if you have a stamp and you want to add 207 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: a little uh gum to it to stick it into 208 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: your collection, which we'll get to as well. Yeah, so 209 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: the sticky stuff equals gum. Right, pretty simple. Let's get 210 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: a little more complex, Chuck, what's a block? A block 211 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: is a group of stamps that are still connected to 212 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: their little friends. But it's got to be at least 213 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: four and a and they can't be four in a 214 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: row either. For my research, it's two and two. It's 215 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: got to be a square block. Yeah, I saw that there, 216 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: as long as therefore it can be irregular shapes, because 217 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: sometimes blocks of stamps get added to, or messed with 218 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: or just changed over the decades or the century. So 219 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: I've seen that more than at but in a less 220 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: regular shape is still considered a block. But what about 221 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: four in a row in a strip? Does that count 222 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: as a block? I believe so. I think as long 223 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: as it's at least four and that there is although 224 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: I guarantee there's another arcane term for what you just said, um, 225 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: But as long as it's not all of the ones 226 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: that were originally attached together, that would be a sheet. Okay, 227 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: al right, okay, alright, nowhere are Um. One other thing 228 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: about stamps that you have to realize is, you know, 229 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: you tend to think if you collect things, when you 230 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: collect things that are not quite right, like a slightly 231 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: off version of what it's supposed to be, that it 232 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: would be much more expensive and collectible. And in some 233 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: cases that's true, Like there there's a um, there's somebody 234 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: in the stamp collecting world, uh that is collecting stuff 235 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: that nobody else is. Like, there's always going to be 236 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: somebody out there who wants something. But in the standp world, 237 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: you want something as precise and pristine and centered and 238 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: perfectly done as possible. That that usually tends to be 239 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: the higher valued stamp. The other kind that are just 240 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: kind of off the printing was slightly off center, that 241 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Those are called errors, freaks and oddities 242 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: e fos in the stamp collecting world. Yeah, it's it's like, uh, 243 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about if like there's an obi wan Kenobi 244 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: figure that the first thousand that they made he was 245 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: missing a left ear. Uh, in that world, that would 246 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: be the most valuable thing probably ever made exactly in 247 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: the history of the world. But yeah, like you're saying, 248 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: with stamps, they generally they want as far as value goes, 249 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: they want them that are nice and tidy, right. But 250 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: so I mean with with those terms error free, errors, 251 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: freaks and oddities, those are just kind of wildly overstating 252 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: what they describe. Like we're talking about a stamp that's 253 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: just the printing is slightly off center for the perforation 254 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: are just a little bit off or whatever maybe kind 255 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: of half got through there. That would be considered a freak, 256 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, like that's how precise stamp printing is meant 257 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: to be. So um, some people do collect that, but 258 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: for the most part, yeah, you want as as close 259 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: to perfect to stamp as possible. It sounds like a 260 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: record album title, Air's Freaks and oddities, like the best 261 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: of Guided by Voices or something that's a good one 262 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: or just a you know, off brand Discovery Network Channel's 263 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: new show, you know. So um, there's cancelations too. That's 264 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: another good term to learn if you're getting into stamp collecting, 265 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: and everybody knows a canceled stamp. It's where they take 266 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: a like a ink stamp stamp over the postage stamp 267 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: and it's canceled. You can't reuse it. It's meant to 268 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: say this has been used, it's okay, let it through 269 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: the mail, but don't try to reuse it again. And 270 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: that's a canceled stamp. And still you can still collect 271 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: those stamps. In fact, you know, most stamps I think 272 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: that people collect have been used and found on these letters, 273 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about that are called covers. But sometimes 274 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: that postmark is on the stamp itself, and sometimes it 275 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: is off to the side, you know, because it's not 276 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: those people at the post office they're just stamping those things. 277 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: They got a lot of work to do. So sometimes 278 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: you'll just barely get a little bit of cancelation on 279 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: the stamp, and the rest of the goodness, including the 280 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: date and where it was mailed from, might be just 281 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: on the envelope itself. Yeah, and there's a lot of 282 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: information that can be contained in just a plain old 283 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: cancelation stamp. Um some you know, like some people collect 284 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: disaster stamp. So like if you had a letter that 285 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: was postmarked, or an envelope and a stamp that was 286 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: postmarked on September eleven, two one in New York, somebody's 287 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: probably collecting, you know, canceled canceled stamps and covers like 288 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: that interest s thing. I never really thought about that. 289 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense. Also, while we're talking about the 290 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: people working at the post office, I feel we would 291 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: be remiss if we did this whole episode without doing 292 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: a shout out to our favorite postal worker, Van Nostrin. 293 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: That's in a great state of Washington. And I don't 294 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: know where the ads fall, but if there's a stamps 295 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: dot Com ad on this total total coincidence, that's right. 296 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: Some people I saw um collect machined um stamps meter 297 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: postage too. And like you said, there's probably a subset 298 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: out there for kind of anything. There definitely is every 299 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: rule you see, there's some rebel group out there breaking it. 300 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: In the Philadeli world, the covers what I mentioned, don't 301 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: you dare call it an envelope? Yeah, you'd really reveal 302 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: yourself to be uneducated rube if you did that, which 303 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: there's probably a word for that too. Yeah, like in 304 00:17:53,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: a beginning beginner philadelist is probably come licker. That's good. 305 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: Uh So the cover, like I said, as the envelope, Um, 306 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you will keep that whole envelope at least for 307 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: a little while. Sometimes it's a little you know, they're 308 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: easier to hang onto than a tiny stamp sometimes, so 309 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: you might not want to cut it out right away, 310 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: and you can keep up with those envelopes until you 311 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: want to get that stamp off. Or like we said, 312 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: if it's got some of the really valuable information that 313 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: makes that stamp special is on the cover itself, you 314 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: may want to keep the whole thing forever and just 315 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: have it on the envelope. Right. And again, these are 316 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: things that people pay attention to in the stamp world 317 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: or collect. And then there's another thing that that you know, 318 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: most of us who just use stamps as like normal 319 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: human beings UM have noticed but don't really pay much 320 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: attention to our the perforations that we used to separate stamps. 321 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: Like way back in the day, stamps came in sheets 322 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: and you colonial person or you know, UM second Industrial 323 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: age inhabitant, we're expected to pull out your scissors and 324 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: cut the stamps into you know, little individual singles. Then finally, UM, 325 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: an irishman named um Henry Archer from Dublin came up 326 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: with a perforation tool. And all you're doing is making 327 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: the paper at certain points thinner so that it's easily 328 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: torn at those points. And so the first perforated stamp 329 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: that came out was the eighteen fifty British Penny Red, 330 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: which is pretty pretty quickly after stamps were first invented 331 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: postal stamps um. And with that Henry Archer created this 332 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: whole sub category of stamp I guess some categorization, a 333 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: subcategory of categorization that is categorical. But stamp collecting people philatilists. Um. 334 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm i'd like it the way I say it, more philatelists. 335 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Now I should probably loud um. So philatilists um, really 336 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: pay attention to perforations. It's like a really important part 337 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: of stamp collecting. Yeah, because it can be a big clue. 338 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it can be a clue as to where 339 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: it actually came from, because these people know how they 340 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: have perforated things with different machines and different parts of 341 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: the world in different eras. So it can be a 342 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: very big clue as to the age of the stamp 343 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: and where it came from. If they don't have those perforations, 344 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: they're called imperforate imperforate, and then you know, I talked 345 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: about the little strips of stamps, the coils those obviously 346 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: you're just gonna have the perforations on the sides and 347 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: not the top or the top, just not both. Uh. 348 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I've never really. I guess it depends on 349 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: which way the art is oriented, right. Uh. And then 350 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: you've got the sheets or the pain, and if it's 351 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: on the outer edges of that sheet or pain, it 352 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: probably won't have those perforations either. And uh, it is 353 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: a big deal. You'd be surprised. Yeah. And those outer 354 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: margins even have their own word, chuck, salvage, which also 355 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: applies to like, you know, the the hem of like 356 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: your shirt or something that's that's sewn in a certain 357 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: way to keep it from unraveling. That's called salvage too. 358 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: But in the stamp collecting, it's basically the margins, the 359 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: sheets um and sometimes they have you know, um registration 360 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: marks or dates or you know, the number of the 361 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: print run printed in there. Some people collect that of 362 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: course as well, salvage stamps. I love learning new words salvage. 363 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: I learned one yesterday. Parapet mm hmm, you know what 364 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: that is? No, I mean, I've seen it before. I 365 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: just cannot bring to mind what it means. It's like 366 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: the little And I learned this because uh oh, and 367 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: it was gonna tell you this anyway. I had our 368 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: buddy Wyatt Sinek on movie Crush yesterday. Oh cool, what 369 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: do you talk about Blazing Saddles? And there's a scene 370 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: where and I've seen Blazing Saddles probably three dozen times. 371 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: It's up there with spinal tap as far as comedies 372 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: that I've seen, and I know it basically by heart. 373 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: And there's a scene where mel Brooks's Governor Lepetta Maine 374 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: comes into the room and he said, sorry, gentlemen, I 375 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: was just out walking the parapet and I never bothered 376 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: to look up what that meant until yesterday. And it's 377 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: the little if you're on top of the building, it's 378 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: the little half wall that goes around the top of 379 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: the building to keep you from falling off off you 380 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: know more interesting. Yeah, right, really banks up maschins on 381 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: your way down. So I never knew that before walking 382 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: the parapet. Yeah, okay, So he was saying like he 383 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: was basically walking on the edge of a high wall. 384 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: I guess a low wall, Yeah, low wall, high up 385 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: with his selvage. I got you. Oh boy, so um, 386 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: let's say Chuck that you said I care about perforations. 387 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: I want to know more about these registration marks on salvage. 388 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: How do I get into this filati um as a hobby, Chuck? 389 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: What would what would you recommend people do to start? 390 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: Get a bank loand no, you know, it is really 391 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: one of the cool things about stamp collecting is it's 392 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: a very low barrier to entry. You need to get 393 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: these little special tongs, these little baby tweezers with rounded tips, 394 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: and you know, if your your skin oils can mark 395 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: a stampa, you want to try and handle them with 396 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: these little little tweezers so you don't ruin them. That's 397 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: a good little tool to have. Uh, you're gonna want 398 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: to get an album or a binder, and they make 399 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: them especially you know, don't get on one for like photographs. 400 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: They make them specially for stamps. And sometimes they have 401 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: little pockets that you can slip them in that are adorable. 402 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: And sometimes they have hinges, which are little strips of 403 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: paper with a little bit of gum on them to 404 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: put the stamps on. You might want to magnifying glass 405 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: or a Jeweler's loop, but you don't need a microscope 406 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: or anything. I think about a ten X is probably 407 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: the most kind of magnification you'll need. Yes, um eventually too, 408 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: you're going to find that you have perforation fever, and 409 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: you're going to get yourself a perf gage, which is 410 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: basically a specialized transparent ruler that that you line up 411 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: the lines to the perforation marks. And uh, the gauge 412 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: of a perforation is how many perforation holes there are 413 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: per two centimeters. And this is important because you know, 414 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: some stamps are exactly the same as other stamps. The 415 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: only difference is is like they were printed on they 416 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: were perforated with slightly different machines or something like that. 417 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: Or you know, like the stamp collecting community knows when 418 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: a perforating machines pin brakes. They know about that machine, 419 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: and it's then so they can tell you where that 420 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: thing was printed and when and what run it will 421 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: is out of how many just because there's a a 422 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: what's called a blind perforation where the hole wasn't punched 423 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: through where it should have been in the one position 424 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: on this one stamp, Like that's how intensely known stamps 425 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: are by the filate pilately community. It's it's really cool. 426 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing I like about it is 427 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: how my opic it can get and how specific it 428 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: can get. It's just, you know, it's it's time well spent. 429 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: And I bet it's very calming. Yes, yeah, just just 430 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: researching it is calming. You know, I fell asleep a 431 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: few times. Stuff. Stuff like that really comes through. When 432 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: you're researching something, you find you're relaxed. The thing you're 433 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: doing would be even more relaxing. I think like making flies, 434 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: or painting like duck Decoy, Yeah, yeah, I love that, 435 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: or or painting stamps like and Fargo Margie's husband. It's 436 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: just the two cent norm norm was great. I love it. Uh. 437 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: So you might want a internet connection. Um, you will 438 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: probably want to get a stamp catalog and we'll talk 439 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: about this sort of the big books that are out there, 440 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: uh in a bit. But all of this stuff is 441 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: basically online now. But you also might like having a book. 442 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: If you're into stamps. I bet you dollars to donuts 443 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: you might rather hold a book in your hand every 444 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: time you say that. You said that on Tuesday two 445 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: in one of the episodes. And yeah, every time you 446 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: say that, I think of this when Simpsons where Homer 447 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: goes deal and puts his dollar down. It's weird because 448 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't really say that expression much, but I've said 449 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: it twice in a week. Yeah, you definitely did, because 450 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: I thought about it the other day too. Also did 451 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: my that dumb what we do in the Shadows guy 452 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: in like two episodes in a row. Yeah, and another 453 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: point too. It's so funny because I think it's a 454 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: mild transgression when we kind of cop one another's words. 455 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: You use droll. Um. I can't remember what episode, but 456 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: you said droll, and then I used it recently too 457 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: after that, and as I was saying it, I was like, yeah, 458 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: and I just use it. It's okay if I use 459 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: that word, So it's fine. I'll lend you droll. Thank you, buddy. 460 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Uh, you might want watermark detector fluid. 461 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Actually that's a pretty good album name too. Um. Sometimes 462 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: stamps will have an anti counterfeiting measure put in place 463 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: with a water mark, and sometimes you can hold up 464 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: stamp to the light and see the water mark. And 465 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you will need to dive a bit deeper and 466 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: put that water mark detector fluid on there, and uh, 467 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: it's not that much money, but it's not necessarily. The 468 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: first thing you need in your kit is a is 469 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: a beginning gum liquor, right, I mean, you're you're gonna 470 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: basically just be be looking at well, that's a neat picture. 471 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: I like that picture, like, that's that's a cool stamp. 472 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: And then eventually you'll be like, what's on the back, 473 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: what's the secret hidden message that I'm missing on this? 474 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: That's right. I also saw there's machines that you can 475 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: get for about two fifty dollars that are basically like 476 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: those you know, those old timey projector things that they 477 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: use in class, like an overhead projector. Yes, yeah, but 478 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: this is a this is one that projects into some 479 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: sort of magnifier that you lean over and look into. Um, 480 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: there's like a light bulb and you don't have to 481 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: use any fluid. It doesn't have any impact on your 482 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: stamp whatsoever. It's just just shows you the watermark. It's 483 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: pretty neat, all right. I mean that's for the well 484 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: healed philatilists. I'm out. So there's another thing you need 485 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: that's really really important. It's a basic part of stamp collecting, 486 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: that is stamps, That's right. And if you're just getting started, Uh, 487 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: one thing you can do is go online and you 488 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: can buy just a lot or a collection of stamps, 489 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: a sort of a grab bag that you have no 490 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: idea what's in there are And that can be a 491 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: really fun way to get started, because, like I mentioned earlier, 492 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: that's where you might poke through and get inspired and say, 493 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: you know what, it turns out I really like this 494 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: particular kind of stamp or two, and I think that 495 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: might be what my focus should be. And that's a 496 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: good way to find that out. Yeah, I mean, getting 497 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: a grab bag of anything. It's a good way to 498 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: really find out who you who you really are? You 499 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: know so, and that is something you can do. You 500 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: can order it online. If you live in a big 501 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: enough city there's probably a stamp collecting store. Um. You 502 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: can also like I read this pamphlet by I think 503 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: the American philatli Association or Society APS. I believe they 504 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: wrote the pamphlet um and they yeah philatltic, philatlic damn 505 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: that word, Okay, philadelic. I think I got it right. Yeah, okay. Um. 506 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: The American Philadelic is so Man had a pamphlet and 507 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: they basically said, if you're a little kid and you 508 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: don't have any money because your parents don't give you 509 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: an allowance or anything, you could still get into stamp collecting. 510 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: And they give all these ideas of how to get 511 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: free stamps. Go to like offices and be like, hey, 512 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: you got any mail, you guys get a lot of mail, 513 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: You got any envelopes you don't want anymore? Or start 514 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: find a pen pal in another country because they'll have 515 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: stamps that are a diamond dozen to them, but to 516 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: you it's a foreign stamp, and you can just start 517 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: sending each other letters with you know, cool stamps or 518 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: even stamps inside the envelope. Who knows. Um. There's a 519 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: lot of ways to get into stamp collecting, basically for 520 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: free or for the cost maybe of a stamp. Um 521 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: that that which is again one of the one of 522 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: the reasons why stamp collecting is just so accessible. It 523 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: costs noct next to nothing to to get into to 524 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: get started with, and even when you really get into it, 525 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: it's not an expensive hobby. No. And if you know, 526 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: if you get a bunch of stamps, or you get 527 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of covers with stamps and you're just beginning 528 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: your your journey. Um, you're gonna get them all lamb 529 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: out in a room, look at him. Decide what you like. 530 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: And you don't want to just remove all. I mean, 531 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want, but uh, I would 532 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: advise that you decide what you wanna um separate from 533 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: the cover because there is a process involved that we're 534 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 1: gonna go over now. And it's not the hardest thing 535 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: in the world. But you don't want to do that 536 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: to twenty or thirty stamps that you're like, no, actually 537 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: don't like these after all, it's a waste of time. Yeah, 538 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like that next level of preservation. Um. 539 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: And once you pick those out, what you do is 540 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: you get a bowl with warm water, warm tap water. 541 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: You lose control of your bladder. Then you start the 542 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: stamp sorting process. That's right. You go pp just a 543 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: little bit, and then you float that stamp if you 544 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: have cut it away for in the cover. If you 545 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: decided to do that, leave yourself a few centimeters around 546 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: the stamp, you know, don't get too close. Yeah, but 547 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: you make a good point you you want to go 548 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: through everything first and be like, are there any cool 549 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: um you know, cancelations on? Here? Is this envelope just 550 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: need you? You don't necessarily want to separate all stamps 551 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: from envelopes or exactly, So you you want to make 552 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: that decision first, and then once you decide that you 553 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: want just the stamp, then you start cutting out and 554 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: leave a little envelope around it. Right, So you float 555 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: that little bad boy in some warm tap water. Yeah, 556 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: you gotta float it stamp up, and you can do 557 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: a few at a time. But I wouldn't get too 558 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: crazy if you're just a little gum liquer and I 559 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: would wade into those warm waters. And if it's from 560 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: a Christmas envelope or something, if it's like a red envelope, yes, 561 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: beware because that can very much discolor your stamp. Hopefully 562 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: it's just like a good old fashioned white envelope. Wait 563 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: about ten or fifteen minutes and that stamp will start 564 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: to that gum will just sort of dissolve away, and 565 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: that stamp will kind of separate and then float off 566 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: on its own. Get those tongs, those little tweezers out. 567 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to just grab it with your grammy 568 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: old human fingers and just kind of pat it dry, 569 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: and you've got yourself a stamp. You want to be 570 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: really careful though, because a wet stamp is unsurprisingly very fragile. 571 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people put um, there's they're wet stamps 572 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: on paper towels. You want to make sure you've gotten 573 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: all the gum off first though. Um. And then they 574 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: put those paper towels in a heavy book and then 575 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: let the let it dry like that. That's I mean 576 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: what we just described as phil atalytic um state of 577 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: the art. Basically, that's right. So you want to take 578 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: another break and they come back and talk a little 579 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: stamp history, famous stamps, that kind of stuff. Yeah, I 580 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: love this part. Let's do that alright. So you mentioned 581 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: stamp history. Uh, they've been collecting stamp since the first stamp, 582 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: which is kind of cool. I don't know why someone said, 583 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, I want to hang onto this, but someone did. 584 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: And uh. After May one, Great Britain issued the Penny Black, 585 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: the very first postage stamp. It was supposed to roll 586 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: out on May six as far as being used, but 587 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: they sent him out a little bit early to post offices, 588 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: so they were ready to go on May six, and 589 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: some post offices said, let's just go ahead and kind 590 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: of get the ball rolling because I've been feeling we're 591 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: going to be behind really quickly. And so some of 592 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: those little penny blacks are dated earlier than May six, 593 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: and those will be worth a little bit more money, 594 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: but they are not like there were a bunch of 595 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: penny black So it's not like the Honus Wagner baseball card. 596 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: It's not like the penny Black is the most valuable 597 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: stamp ever made. It's a little counterintuitive, but rarity for 598 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: any collection is what makes it valuable, and they're just 599 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: not as rare as you might think, right, But that's 600 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 1: a good example of that cancelation that people um will 601 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: will collect because you wanna canceled penny black that pre 602 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: dates that May sixty team forty date because it's just 603 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: unusual and rare totally. That's also I think May one, 604 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: so May one was the date where they started issuing them, 605 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: even though that was five days early, so that would 606 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: be what's called the first day cover. It's an envelope 607 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: with the stamp that's canceled on the first day of issue. 608 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: And sometimes there's even a special stamp that they'll use, 609 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: say first day issue. People collect covers like that too. 610 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: They even have like ceremonies for these kind of things, especially, 611 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: I swear to God if they're releasing a commemorative stamp. 612 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: In particular, there's definitive stamps, which are your everyday, you know, 613 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: American Flag Forever stamp um that they basically release an 614 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: unlimited quantities. Then there's commemorative stamps. They usually have a 615 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: more limited run. They're available for a limited time. They 616 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: often commemorate a person and events something like that um, 617 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: And when they release those stamps, they'll have like a 618 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: ceremony um at a specific post office in a specific 619 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: city with dignitaries and famous people there. Sometimes they'll print 620 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: programs and everything. And if you're a stamp collector, you 621 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: want to be at that first day ceremony or at 622 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: the very least you're collecting those kind of covers too, 623 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: if that's the kind of thing you're into, Yeah, I 624 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: think it's kind of awesome that when you go to 625 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: the post office still and you go and ask for 626 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: a book of stamps, if you have no interest at 627 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: all in stamp collecting, they will present you, usually with 628 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: a few things, ago what kind of stamps you want? 629 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: And and anecdotally I can say that most people choose 630 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: something rather than saying I don't care, I just want something, 631 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: to mail something, give me questions. I've been plenty of 632 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: post offices and most people go, oh, those dogs look nice. 633 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: I'll take those. Yeah, dogs playing poker even better, It's cute. 634 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: I love it. I pick out my stamps. I don't 635 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on it, but if they 636 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: present me with a few, I'll kind of give them 637 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: a quick once over and say, well, I'd like to 638 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: mail that represents me a little bit, and that's kind 639 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: of what it is. Give me those Mr Rogers stamps. 640 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: How are there some? I'm sure there is. Yeah, I'll 641 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: bring you one. I'll mail you something with one on it. Yeah, 642 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: I do, Okay, send me something for sure, I will. Uh. 643 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned the first day cover though, they people will 644 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: collect first day covers of just very regular, commonly issued 645 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: stamps just because it's the first day cover. Because you 646 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: never know that thing might be worth something one day. Right, 647 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. That's what they have those 648 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: ceremonies for two sometimes and then if you have, like 649 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: a something that's designed or a design that's printed on 650 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: a stamp is called a cache. Yet another arcane jargon 651 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: term um. And people spend a lot of time, by 652 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: the way, I looked up into the cache a world, 653 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: and there are stamp collectors that very much get into 654 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: making their own caches and uh special made caches, and 655 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: it's a whole other subset as well. Yeah, it's basically 656 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, if you if you've ever seen an envelope 657 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: with a stamp of an angel blowing a trumpet around 658 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: Christmas time or something like that, that's cache. Well, I 659 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 1: mean a cache is an additional like ink stamp put 660 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: on the envelope. That's what I'm saying, Okay, like a stamps. Yeah, 661 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: I know that we need another term. I think that's 662 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: what confused rubber rubber ink stamp, A rubber ink stamp 663 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: of an angel blowing a horn around Christmas time. I 664 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: got you, I got you. So um. America got into 665 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: the stamp releasing act less than a decade after Great Britain, 666 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: and Great Britain, by the way, being the first nation 667 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: on the planet to issue postage stamps, didn't bother to 668 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: put the nation of origin. If you look at every 669 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: other stamp ever issued by a government authority, it has 670 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: the nation on it. Somewhere there's some signifier that this 671 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: came from America or Zimbabwe or something like that. Um, 672 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: Great Britain still to this day doesn't because they were 673 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: the first, and so they still don't don't put Great 674 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: Britain or UK or anything on their stamps. Right, it's 675 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yep. So America got into it in eighteen 676 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: forty seven July first, No less, there was a five 677 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: cent Benjamin Franklin at ten cent George Washington And what 678 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: else did we need? You know? Yeah? And this is 679 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: not you know, we It can get confusing when you 680 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 1: think of like the Stamp Act and you know, stamping 681 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: t and things like that. Those were different kinds of stamps. 682 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: We used to stamp tax bills and permits and any 683 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: kind of government sort of thing exchange might be stamped. 684 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: That is a revenue stamp, and you it's sort of 685 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: just a different world. Like if you collect postage stamps, 686 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: you might also collect revenue stamps, but there you keep 687 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: them separate. You don't put them together. You don't tell 688 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: your friends who collect postage stamps that you're collecting revenue 689 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: or fiscal stamps that's your postage. Stamps are kind of 690 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: where the bread and butter is for stamp collecting. I 691 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: think so, like we said um before, the kind of 692 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: like one of the recognized authorities on stamp collecting and 693 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: stamps in general is the Scott Catalog, which has been 694 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: produced from a company in Ohio since eighteen sixty eight, 695 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: and they basically just started tracking stamp after stamp. So 696 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: the lower the number associated with the stamp that the 697 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: Scott Catalog has given that stamp, the earlier the stamp 698 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: is released, and so over time it's grown into I 699 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: think a twelve volume collection catalog the Scott Catalog has, 700 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: but it's so widely known and widely used that a 701 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: lot of stamps are just are discovered or described and 702 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: talked about by their Scott Catalog number rather than you know, 703 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: whatever common name they have, right. And there are prefixes 704 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 1: and suffixes, uh if there are different special issued stamps 705 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: or some of those errors you're talking about, or some 706 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: rad purse Um, the inverted Jenny which we'll talk about 707 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: in a minute, like that's known as C three A 708 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: in the stamp world, this C denotes airmail stamps. Yeah, 709 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: which is great and little counterintuitive, a little bit. Sure 710 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: it would be an A in my world you would 711 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: think so, But I think A is for awesome. The 712 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: most awesome stamps is what the A has reserved for. 713 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: There's also the Michelle Catalog from Germany, and that is 714 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: around to fill in the gaps that the Scott Guide 715 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: does not cover, because the Scott Guide is American and 716 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: they're like, we don't want Cuban stamps in our book. 717 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Yeah, it's weird. If there were 718 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: nations that are embargoed or whatever, h sometimes they will 719 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: not be I think North Korean stamps too, are not 720 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: in the Scott Catalog. So the Michelle Catalog comes around 721 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: because they're German and they're like, sure, we'll cover it. 722 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: It's fine, sure. Um. So it turns out that there's 723 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: actually been a pretty decent amount of famous people who 724 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: collect stamps. Um. Just because there's so many people who 725 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: collect stamps, some of them are bound to be famous. Right. 726 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: John Lennon, Yeah, I read about his stamp collecting. He 727 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: seems to have inherited his cousin Stanley's stamp collection basically 728 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: changed the name on the cover of the album to 729 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: his name, and then you know, added a few more stamps. 730 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to have been a passionate philatilist by 731 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: any stretch. From what um Eine Rand was I know. Uh. 732 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 1: And then Patrick Dempsey I saw reference here there. Yeah. 733 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: And then Queen Elizabeth the Second apparently as a stamp 734 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: collector um. And then Sally Ride was a very famous 735 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: philadelist as well and ended up on a stamp her self. Yes, sadly. Um. 736 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: This is something that I think is super cool, the 737 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: fact that Sally Ride was fine. She didn't die in 738 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: an act that was Christie mcculloff. That's what I was 739 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: thinking of. Did you ever see that Challenger documentary yet? 740 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: I still haven't. It's a man, it is just astounding. 741 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: You can't believe it. I can't believe the interviews that 742 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: they got and what they got the people to finally 743 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: admit to. It's crazy amazing. Amelia Earhart, I think this 744 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: is super cool. She actually funded some of her aviation expeditions, uh, 745 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: including some of those transatlantic flights with stamps. She would 746 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: get covers and she would sometimes their cash cachide and 747 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 1: she would get stamps, and she would fly to places 748 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: and get them postmarked, and it would be obviously super valuable. 749 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: She might even sign it sometimes and sell them and 750 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: this would be like, boy, this is a cover and 751 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: a stamp from Amelia Earhart's flight across the ocean. Uh, 752 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: stamped here and in like England or something, or stamped 753 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: in England or canceled. I guess in England. And Uh. 754 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: When she went down in that plane there were five 755 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: with along with poor fred Noonan, there were five thousand 756 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: covers that she had pre sold to fund that flight 757 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: that were stamped and postmarked for her stops around the world. 758 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: Very cool fact that brought to mind the mail on 759 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: the Titanic. Remember we were making fun of people dropping 760 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: off their mail. Apparently there was a lot of mail 761 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: on the Titanic and I didn't think about it. But 762 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't just people dropping off their mail. Passengers on 763 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: the titan and mailing postcards. R MS stands for Royal 764 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: Male Ship, so the RMS Titanic was a mail carrier too, 765 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: so it was carrying British and Irish and European mail 766 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: over to America as well. And from what I could tell, 767 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: none of it survived. There's a surviving letter that was 768 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: not mail, that was written on Titanic letterhead, but it 769 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: was kept in somebody's belongings. But I guess all of 770 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: the male workers on the Titanic died basically trying to 771 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: save the mail, but they were unable to and it's 772 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: still down there. But they think it's possible some of 773 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: it still preserved and they might bring it up someday. 774 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: President Roosevelt was a very dedicated stamp collector FDR pre 775 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: presidency and then through his presidency, which was many, many years. 776 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: And this is interesting and that the president has the 777 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: ear of the Postmaster General and it seems unfair. Well, 778 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's kind of cool though, Like 779 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 1: he got into it and he wasn't just like, yeah, 780 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: just print a bunch of stamps, it's fine, like every 781 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: other president. Um. In the nineteen thirties he got together 782 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: with General James A. Farley of the Postmaster General and said, 783 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, let's help. I want to help design these things, 784 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: and let's brainstorm colors and themes and designs. And but 785 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: if he was terrible at it, and Farley would see 786 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: him come into like oh here comes another bad idea 787 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: from FDR figures had like gigantic hands and stuff. But 788 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: he was the president, so Farley had to release the 789 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: stupid stamps. That's pretty funny, uh, but it's kind of 790 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: cool though. He did sketch out ideas apparently, and in 791 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: his collection he had some full sheets and he had 792 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: some die proofs and stuff like that, so he did 793 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: he did have a an advantage for sure. Yeah. Apparently 794 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: they used to release a lot of pictures of him 795 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: collecting stamps as part of like calm reassurance to the 796 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: nation that there was like a steady hand um literally 797 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: and figuratively and leading the country, which is kind of cool. 798 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: Can we talk about the Inverted Jenny the coolest stamping? Yeah, 799 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of famous stamps, we should say, the 800 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: Inverted Jenny is not the most, the most the high 801 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: the most valuable stamp that goes to the um the 802 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 1: British Guiana magenta, right, Yeah, which isn't that great looking, 803 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: but it's just rare. I guess I think there's only 804 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: one of it in in um in existence, the British 805 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: Guiana one sent magenta, but the the far and away 806 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: the Inverted Jenny is the the most famous stamp of 807 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: all time has to be. Yeah. So in nineteen eighteen, 808 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: the U S commissioned to stamp to commemorate the first 809 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: air mail service going on. And so they decided on 810 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: a two color stamp with a plane on it OC 811 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: Curtis j N four. And when you do something with 812 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,479 Speaker 1: two colors, you print the first thing. In this case, 813 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: it was the red frame around the plane, and then 814 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: the second thing that they would print with the the 815 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: blue plane itself. And there was an error at one point, 816 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: and there were a few pains where it was flipped 817 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: upside down and it was either the sheet or the 818 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: printing plate was upside down, and so that the jenny 819 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: was inverted, and you've got this upside down plane. And 820 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, stamp collectors get winded this and 821 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: they're like, oh my gosh, there was a mistake. We 822 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: need to get our hands on some of these. Yeah. 823 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 1: This guy named William Roby showed up at the printing 824 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: press and said, do you have any that are messed 825 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: up that are upside down? And they had found that 826 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: they had printed some accidentally. Uh, and all but one 827 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: sheet was destroyed. So one hundred inverted Jennis were produced, 828 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: which makes it not one of the rare stamps around. 829 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 1: Remember that that British key on um one set in Jenna. 830 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: There's only one. There's only one Benjamin Franklin z Grill. 831 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: There's a hundred of these things. But um, people just 832 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: love them. They go bonkers for them. Uh. And as 833 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, one of the reasons why the 834 00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: Inverted Jenny has become such a a sought after part 835 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: of the stamp collecting world is because it's it's just 836 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: been in the spotlight so much like there's been some 837 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 1: really high profile thefts of inverted Jenny's over the years. 838 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: There was some one block of four called the McCoy 839 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: block that was stolen in nineteen fifty five, and every 840 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: couple of decades one of them is recovered and there's 841 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: a big to do about it. Um. There was another 842 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: theft from the New York Public Library nineteen seven that 843 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: was finally recovered years later. Um. It's just something about 844 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: that stamp makes it the most the most famous of 845 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: all time, that's right. And then that's one case there 846 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: was a dealer or those This man who purchased the 847 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: sheets sold it to a dealer dealer sells it to 848 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: this wealthy businessman, and the dealer had penciled in numbers 849 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: on the back of these stamps individually so you could 850 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: identify the stamps, which of course it meant it was 851 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,240 Speaker 1: not in mint condition, but they were at least identifiable. 852 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: And I think the story goes that one of these 853 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 1: was stole one and it turned up in the eighties 854 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: with the perforations cut off and the number on the 855 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 1: back was changed to a nine, which wasn't a stamp 856 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: that had ever been circulated. So they knew that it 857 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: was the stolen stamp, right, but they thought that it 858 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: could have been this nine that had never been circulated, 859 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: that it made its way in a circulation. But it 860 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: wasn't until two thousand two when a woman's locket, the 861 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: wife of Colonel Edward Green, the guy who bought that 862 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: original block of one that businessman um she died in 863 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: her locket made its way into auction and somebody opened 864 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: it up and found that the inverted jenny in the 865 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: number nine position was actually in the locket, So the 866 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 1: other one was found to be a fraud that way, 867 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: which is just you can't write this stuff, you know, 868 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: I think you met Colonel Mustard. It's Mr Green, I know. 869 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, Professor Plum. Pretty cool story though. 870 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 1: I think the last one in nineteen sold for one 871 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: three five mills, So yeah, there was a block of them. 872 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: I think, not the most valuable, but pretty pretty brighty plus. Also, 873 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: it made its way into one of the better movies 874 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 1: that came out of the eighties, Brewsters Millions, Remember, Oh 875 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: sure was that in there? Yeah, he burned up like 876 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: a bunch of money by mailing a postcard using the 877 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: inverted Jenny is mail. That's a fun fact. Yeah, yeah, 878 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Huh. I love it. And that ties in 879 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: with Blazing Saddles because Richard Pryor almost played Sheriff Bart 880 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,919 Speaker 1: Oh nice. What was the name of the actor who 881 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: did in? Said Cleveland Little, who was a great But 882 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: Richard Pryor was a writer on the movie. Okay, uh, 883 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: you got anything else about Richard Pryor or philatili Nope, 884 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: neither do I. But there is a ton out there, 885 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: Like I read an article about the serial number that's 886 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: written on the side of the plane on the Inverted 887 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: Jenny and how Philatilists got to the bottom of why 888 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: that serial number was used. Like I mean, there is 889 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of information out there, and there's a lot 890 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: of stamps to collect. So go forth and try out 891 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: a new hobby and see what you think. And since 892 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: I said go forth, that means, of course it's time 893 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: for a listener, ma'am. I'm gonna call this heartfelt thanks. 894 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: Hey guys, as we mark the one year anniversary of 895 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: the COVID Lockdown, I'm compelled to write and thank you 896 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: for what you've done, what you do, and hopefully what 897 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: you will continue to do. 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