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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome in to turning Point tonight. We're together,

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Speaker 1: we are charting the course of America's culture. Will comeback.

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Speaker 1: My name is job Bob. Thanks so much for tuning

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Speaker 1: in this evening on real America's Voice. You know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, and rightly so, are concerned about the

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Speaker 1: younger generation. I think Jerry Seinfeld said, don't get them wrong,

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Speaker 1: the younger generation is here to replace us, and that's

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Speaker 1: exactly true. And there's a lot of grumbling about the

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Speaker 1: younger generation. But I feel and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are starting to feel very optimistic about the upcoming gen

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Speaker 1: by how many students show up to these Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: events on campuses, and I think it is an optimistic

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Speaker 1: sign for the future of this country. One of the

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Speaker 1: brightest lights, I think in this optimistic sign is one

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Speaker 1: name Hannah Faulkner, who joins us now. Hannah, thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. I again can't speak enough to how well

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Speaker 1: you've done in your very short seventeen years of covering

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Speaker 1: the media, commentary, writing a book, being outspoken about your

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Speaker 1: conservative beliefs. First of all, thanks for joining us. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Joe Bob, thank you so much for what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: And you know what I always say, it's crazy that

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Speaker 3: we're even having to have these discussions and the issues

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Speaker 3: that I talk about in the book and write about.

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Speaker 4: It just blows my.

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Speaker 3: Mind that we are even having debates like the ones

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Speaker 3: that we're having today.

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Speaker 2: But I appreciate where you're doing, and thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for having me on the show today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Hannah's got a book coming out we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about in just a second. I wanted to play

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Speaker 1: this clip because there is a stigma I guess in

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Speaker 1: my generation and up about homeschoolers and you were homeschool

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Speaker 1: to have you talk about that in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But watch this clip, and I'm so curious how relatable

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Speaker 1: this might be.

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Speaker 4: Checking out they have a cardiovascular and muscular endurance levels

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Speaker 4: of elite. Who cares? They're children.

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Speaker 5: They need to go to school, they need to learn

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Speaker 5: about the world.

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Speaker 6: Justin Jackson, would you please come.

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Speaker 1: Down here for a second?

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Speaker 4: What Hollee, you and not Jackson thirteen? Can you tell

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Speaker 4: me what the Bill of Rights is?

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Speaker 5: What's something costs?

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Speaker 4: I guess it's a good guess justin your in high school?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Do you like your school?

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Speaker 1: Guess?

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Speaker 8: Whatever?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what the Bill of Rights is?

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Speaker 9: It's uh government thing right like rights that people have

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Speaker 9: in America and stuff.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Saja, yeah, would you please come down here in

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Speaker 10: a moment, sweetie, I want.

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Speaker 4: To ask you a que question.

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Speaker 11: Sada.

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Speaker 12: Just turned it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the Bill of Rights.

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Speaker 9: A moment one timers should make no law respecting an

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Speaker 9: establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or

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Speaker 9: branching the freedom.

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Speaker 4: Of regurgitating memorized and men as system.

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Speaker 13: What I'm asking for.

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Speaker 4: Just tell me something about it in your own words?

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Speaker 9: Saw the Bill of Rights be more like Chine?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 9: At least we don't have one of the searches were

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Speaker 9: free speech. Citizens are protected from cruel and unusual punishments.

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Speaker 1: So that is the mom there says that, and not fine,

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Speaker 1: you proved your point. That's for me. Twenty sixteen movie

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Speaker 1: called Captain fantastic, and I think it kind of depicts

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Speaker 1: this ever shifting change in how people see homeschooling.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 1: I kind of thought homeschooling was weird when I was

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Speaker 1: but Hannah, I mean, how applicable is that to your situation?

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Speaker 1: Because you got the Constitution behind you with the American flag.

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Speaker 2: I've never watched the movie, and I.

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Speaker 3: Saw that clip and I thought, Wow, this is actually

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Speaker 2: Looks like in twenty twenty five public school.

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Speaker 3: their children, but started educating them on the history of

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Speaker 3: our constitution, our founding documents, what made this country great?

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Speaker 3: And I actually went to public school. My first year

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Speaker 2: Rainbow sex cold as I call it, and they.

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Speaker 3: Were proudly displaying it across the classroom for us as

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Speaker 2: And this is in the conservative state of Tennessee. But

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Speaker 3: I remember one specific day when obviously there was campaigns

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Speaker 3: this iPad. They were passing around this iPad and they said,

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Speaker 3: conservative state like Tennessee on who to vote for, not

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Speaker 3: telling my parents all of these incidents. I was always

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Speaker 3: like when students ask questions, and I was tending to

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Speaker 3: very grateful for that, because if it weren't for me

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Speaker 3: being homeschooled, they definitely would not have been able to,

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Speaker 3: you know, race motocross competitively when I was thirteen and fourteen,

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Speaker 3: then write the book and start the podcast and travel

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Speaker 3: the country. But we're definitely seeing what I like to

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Speaker 3: call like a homeschool revolution in this country because parents

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Speaker 3: social students by sending them to a classroom with a

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Speaker 3: you know, very smart, intelligent person. Obviously, parents are finally

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Speaker 3: the narrative. So it's exciting stuff we're seeing, especially from

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Speaker 2: Grade at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean this is a you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're a parent or a grandparent, this is a

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Speaker 1: great opportunity to check out Turning Point Academy. Get your

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Speaker 1: plaguing this country. Hannah, growing up now, kind of in

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Speaker 2: You know, I really think.

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Speaker 3: People are starting to wake up realizing that something as

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Speaker 3: the feminist movement has really destroyed the family unit. It

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Speaker 3: that we must protect the family. You know, the last

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Speaker 3: and the reason why the Communists have always feared strong,

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Speaker 3: to the feminist movement. And I break down the feminist movement.

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Speaker 2: Now we even have men in our bathrooms.

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Speaker 3: But I'm starting to see the shift and people of

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Speaker 2: And same thing with men. They want to be masculine.

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Speaker 1: So the book is called Last Chance to Save Our Republic.

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Speaker 1: What in the world is is this seventeen year old

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Speaker 1: doing writing a book like that?

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Speaker 1: And this is I say that in the most complementary

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Speaker 1: average American seventeen year old to do. Why'd you write it?

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Speaker 1: What's your main point? And what's kind of the message

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Speaker 4: You know what's interesting?

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Speaker 3: Actually I kept telling my dad I was never going

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Speaker 3: to write a book, and that was not in my

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Speaker 3: I hosted the first Teams Against Gender Mutilation rally in

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Speaker 1: And then you find out, oh, they're they're just as

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Speaker 1: basic as I am.

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Speaker 4: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 11: That was I'm not even kidding verbatim how our first

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Speaker 11: date went.

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Speaker 4: Really we're asking him.

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Speaker 2: I was like, so.

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Speaker 4: Did you get the COVID vaccine?

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Speaker 1: And then I.

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Speaker 11: And then I ended up asking him like just flat

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Speaker 11: out did you vote for Trump? Like I need I

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Speaker 11: need to know. I want to have the same morals

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Speaker 11: and beliefs as you like. We can disagree on little

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Speaker 11: things like whether we both like asparagus or not, but

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Speaker 11: we're not going to disagree.

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Speaker 4: On whether our boy is a girl. You know.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, things are very important, and I feel like it

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Speaker 11: didn't used to be a big divide being a Republican

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Speaker 11: and Democrat, Like, I don't remember there being a huge

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Speaker 11: divide until you know, like twenty sixteen. It's like we're

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Speaker 11: completely divided now, which I hate. But we're thinking totally

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Speaker 11: opposite ends of the spectrum. So I want to know,

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Speaker 11: you know, we're going to agree on the majority of

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Speaker 11: things together and how we raise our children.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's a risk for him too, because you're

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Speaker 1: asking point and blank, who did you vote for. He's

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Speaker 1: got to go, oh, shoot, well, this is either gonna

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Speaker 1: go great or we're gonna break up right here. And now,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately that wasn't the case, you know, just in our

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Speaker 1: last couple of minutes here. What is the future of

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Speaker 1: online content? I don't even want to necessarily say conservative

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Speaker 1: media because that is such a big and massive thing

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Speaker 1: that isn't really defined super well. What does the future

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Speaker 1: of the content look like that you're gonna be putting out.

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Speaker 1: What do you think creators in the conservative space are

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Speaker 1: going to start doing. Is it going to get more

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Speaker 1: political less political? What is your kind of just take

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Speaker 1: on the trajectory the next couple of years.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think a.

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Speaker 11: Lot of people love watching people on TikTok and Instagram

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Speaker 11: post content because we're sharing the truth and we're giving

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Speaker 11: our opinions, which it's so hard to find truth nowadays.

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Speaker 4: I'm always having people message.

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Speaker 11: Me and asking for my sources, and I'm like, honestly,

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Speaker 11: I just read the bill.

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Speaker 4: I'm just reading the bill.

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Speaker 11: I'm not doing anything crazy, And I think the future

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Speaker 11: that's a great question. I really don't know where it's

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Speaker 11: going to go. I'm seeing kind of mixed things happening

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Speaker 11: right now. I'm seeing some people who who are for

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Speaker 11: Trump and they advocated for him now kind of turning

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Speaker 11: on him in a way. And then I'm seeing other

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Speaker 11: people who are like I was a hardcore Commala supporter

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Speaker 11: and now I'm a Trump supporter, and so we're just

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Speaker 11: seeing different things happen. But I definitely think that content

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Speaker 11: creators are the future media because we're just seeing that

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Speaker 11: they're more trustworthy than actual media these days.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I tell people that all the time too, And I

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Speaker 1: think you might agree. Here is some people might get

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Speaker 1: things wrong, it's just whether or not you can trust them.

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Speaker 1: I can't trust any of the mainstream media anymore. And

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Speaker 1: there are people that I disagree with, but at least

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Speaker 1: I trust them to be honest with me, which I

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Speaker 1: think is the biggest thing that online content creators are

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Speaker 1: are able to do. Uh But the whole source thing

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Speaker 1: is fascinating. A man can't be a woman. Put your

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Speaker 1: source on that. Yes, I have eyeballs. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what else to tell you. Uh So that patriotic peach

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Speaker 1: at patriotic Peach on the social media platforms you believe

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Speaker 1: to find her. Thanks so much for joining us. Really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you coming up here on turning point tonight. A

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Speaker 1: fascinating clip from Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast that you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna want to miss. Don't go away, We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back after this.

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Speaker 13: Gotta admire what you've been able to do, not to weaponize,

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Speaker 13: but to organize on these college campuses.

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Speaker 7: At turning Point USA. We've spent thirteen years building the machine,

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Speaker 7: and last year we sought payoff. Our grassroots army is

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Speaker 7: making a real difference. Help us keep the momentum going.

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Speaker 10: A gift of any amount, you'll receive your big Gov

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Speaker 10: sucks cooler claim yours today.

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Speaker 14: You've been in Hollywood circles for decades. Do you think

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Speaker 14: it's really weird how the mainstream media is all of

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Speaker 14: a sudden saying it's rightly extremism to talk about vaccines

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Speaker 14: and raw milk? I mean, right, am I crazy that

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Speaker 14: it was Hollywood liberals who were the ones who were

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Speaker 14: not vaccining their kids and drinking raw milk.

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Speaker 15: But this, by the way, is why I refuse to

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Speaker 15: put a label on myself and I refuse to become tribal,

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Speaker 15: because the only reason they've moved in that direction is

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Speaker 15: because they feel like they'll be cast out of their

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Speaker 15: party if they don't.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows this.

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Speaker 15: Is bananas, except the crazy, super fringe woke few that

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Speaker 15: are like this tail that's wagging the dog. And then

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Speaker 15: some of us just get purged like Anna, like myself

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Speaker 15: and for the first time we can see the sun,

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Speaker 15: you know. But with that said, I'm seeing stuff that's

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Speaker 15: so crazy. It's hard to map my head around outside

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Speaker 15: of health. Like I was just on sann last night

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Speaker 15: because I think now, to be honest, I think that's

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Speaker 15: really where we need to be.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's so easy to go on fugs.

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Speaker 15: We need to be places where we're fighting for minds well.

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Speaker 15: And I have the Maha movement.

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Speaker 14: This is what people need to understand when it comes

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Speaker 14: to the midterms coming up. And I think you can

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Speaker 14: echo this beautifully. Maha, I think is one of the

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Speaker 14: most powerful political arms we have of the Trump Adman. Sure,

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Speaker 14: if we need to keep pressing and promoting Maha, if

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Speaker 14: we want to win midterms, we need to keep these people.

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Speaker 14: We gain millions of voters based on this issue. We

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Speaker 14: need to keep them keep talking about it. So I

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Speaker 14: hope the President you know people, will hear this on

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Speaker 14: in his camp in RFK and just be motivated to

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Speaker 14: keep pushing MAHA as we go into the midterms.

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Speaker 15: I couldn't agree with you more, but I think what

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Speaker 15: you're seeing is crazy.

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Speaker 6: Let me lay this one at your feet.

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Speaker 15: Okay, So I'm not sure when this airs, but recently

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Speaker 15: two marijuana fields in California were rated by ice. I'm

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Speaker 15: on CNN and they're talking about how Ice injured the

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Speaker 15: farm workers. Can we do you mind if we pause?

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Speaker 15: Would you like me to shine some light on why

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Speaker 15: you lost the last election, because the vast majority majority

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Speaker 15: of US are horrified about the fact that there are unaccompanied, underage,

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Speaker 15: undocumented children who are likely trafficked working on a weed farm,

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Speaker 15: Like if you think them demonizing raw milk is bad

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Speaker 15: like this, And then one of them made a case

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Speaker 15: and said, no, no, no, it's legal for twelve year olds

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Speaker 15: to work in agriculture in California, where it actually is. However,

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Speaker 15: Glasshouse would need a license that permits miners under the

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Speaker 15: age of eighteen, which they did not have. It is

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Speaker 15: in fact illegal. But my point is, how are we

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Speaker 15: having these arguments?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: Nevertheless, we need to keep having them. It's it's not

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Speaker 15: just maha. Maha is an extension of what God said

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Speaker 15: truly calls the woke mind virus.

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Speaker 14: It is a problem when it comes to the American

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Speaker 14: chronic disease crisis. Did you always know that food was

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Speaker 14: the problem or for a while did you think they're

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Speaker 14: not exercising enough, they're too sedentary? And do you feel

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Speaker 14: like I made a mistake then? Or no, you always

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Speaker 14: knew it was the food.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 15: Here's where I really appreciate the MAJA report. For whatever

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Speaker 15: flaws and errors it had, it did identify the four

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Speaker 15: key problems, and they are all problems. Food okay, sedentary

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Speaker 15: lifestyle yeah, crop in the environment big one, and over medicalization.

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Speaker 15: Now would I wait them all equally?

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Speaker 1: No, but kind of close.

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Speaker 6: I might.

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Speaker 15: I might put over medicalization of like ten percent, but food, uh,

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Speaker 15: sedentary lifestyle and chemicals I would. I would almost wait equally.

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Speaker 15: I think they're all equally dangerous.

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Speaker 1: And you always felt that way or this is I.

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Speaker 6: Always felt that way.

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Speaker 15: There was an evolution with food, and that came when

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Speaker 15: I was in my very early thirties because I couldn't

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Speaker 15: understand why, despite the fact that I was a healthy

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Speaker 15: weight and I was exercising, I still had a host

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Speaker 15: of health issues, nodules on my thyroid, pcos malasma, my face.

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Speaker 15: I'm like, this just doesn't add up. What am I

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Speaker 15: missing here? And that's when I ended up writing Master

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Speaker 15: Metabolism with a board certified end of Chronologist and really

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Speaker 15: expanding my understanding.

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Speaker 6: About the quality of food.

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Speaker 15: And I had to do a big miacopa about the

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Speaker 15: previous books as I throwout all of those recipes with

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Speaker 15: splendor and soybean oil.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so bad.

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Speaker 14: What is your elevator pitch to keep somebody motivated on

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Speaker 14: their fitness journey if they just are like, I can't

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Speaker 14: do this anymore.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, my elevator pitch.

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Speaker 4: My elevator pitch, I guess would be what choice do

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Speaker 4: you have?

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Speaker 15: Because if you don't do it anymore, then it is

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Speaker 15: a foregone conclusion you will die sooner of something horrible.

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Speaker 15: If that doesn't matter to you, then my pitch doesn't

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Speaker 15: matter either way. But the more people try to avoid

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Speaker 15: the thing they're afraid of, I don't want to deal

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Speaker 15: with it. I don't want to face it, you manifest

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Speaker 15: the thing you don't want to deal with. And I

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Speaker 15: keep trying to explain that when you play all these

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Speaker 15: scenarios out of like, what if I try and it

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Speaker 15: works amazing? What if you try and you fail, well,

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Speaker 15: you learn from the lesson, you reapproach more intelligently, and

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Speaker 15: success as a matter of attrition. What if I do nothing.

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Speaker 15: Everybody thinks nothing happens. It's not nothing that happens. It

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Speaker 15: is an absolute guarantee that you will manifest the very

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Speaker 15: thing you are trying to avoid. That is what happens.

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Speaker 15: So that's my elevator pitch. You kind of have no

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Speaker 15: choice if you care even an iota, If you could

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Speaker 15: offer one remedy to Healisic culture physically, emotionally or spiritually,

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Speaker 15: what would it be.

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Speaker 4: Be true to yourself.

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Speaker 15: I think once you're true to yourself, you start prioritizing yourself.

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Speaker 15: And when you prioritize yourself, you act on all of

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Speaker 15: these different fronts, no matter how big or how small,

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Speaker 15: each and every one of those actions adds Zobie. Small steps,

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Speaker 15: small successes equal big wins over time. Be true to yourself,

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Speaker 15: Be authentically you. You'll value yourself more. You'll build your

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Speaker 15: self worth and your self esteem. And from that place,

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Speaker 15: you work out because you love your body, not because

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Speaker 15: you hate it. From that place, you make these steps

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Speaker 15: because you know your inherent value.

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Speaker 8: Got it.

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Speaker 13: Meer what you've been able to do, not to weaponize,

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Speaker 13: but to organize on these college campuses.

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Speaker 7: At Turning Point, USA, We've spent thirteen years building the

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Speaker 7: machine and last year we sought payoff. Our grassroots army

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Speaker 7: is making a real difference. Help us keep the momentum going.

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Speaker 7: Donate today and keep tp USA strong on campuses across America, and.

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Speaker 10: For a gift of any amount, you'll receive your big

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Speaker 10: Gov sucks cooler claim yours Today.

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Speaker 8: We're here with conservative ants and I may be putting

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Speaker 8: it in the deer to headlight situation and also maybe

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Speaker 8: be stereotypical, but it's all ingest. Yeah, musicals, musicals, musicals.

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Speaker 1: This is more of a broad strike quote question. Culturally speaking,

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Speaker 1: conservatives are not great at art being cool trendy you

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Speaker 1: for a variety of different reasons. Are like the shirt

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Speaker 1: you got on you stand out in the crowd.

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Speaker 8: What has to happen to make sure that And I'm

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Speaker 8: not talking about everybody, because you know conserers as a

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Speaker 8: wide swath of people.

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Speaker 1: What has to happen to make it not so buttoned up? Official? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not there's anything wrong with that, but it sometimes doesn't

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Speaker 1: appeal to audiences that I think we can appeal to. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's huge audiences out there that would be conservative otherwise,

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Speaker 1: but they don't like the you know, Stiffy's stuffy. It's

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Speaker 1: stuffy and lame.

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Speaker 6: It is stuffy in lam.

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Speaker 16: Well, yeah, I think that it's going away from the stuffy.

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Speaker 16: To be honest, I really do, like I think they're

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Speaker 16: not the lame.

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Speaker 1: It'll still be lame.

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Speaker 6: We're kind of cooler. Yeah, we've gotten cooler. We've got

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Speaker 6: a lot cooler.

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Speaker 16: But I think honestly, there's people like you, like me

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Speaker 16: and many other influencers that are bringing up more of

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Speaker 16: an edgy See, this is.

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Speaker 6: Claire little Flair trying to be you know, I have

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Speaker 6: that flare with though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to try it, I see, because of

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Speaker 1: this is the thing that I feel so passionately about.

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Speaker 1: I actively like, did this is embarrassing? I did like

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Speaker 1: a little fashion show to like Elber put together. I

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Speaker 1: think it end up Borgan.

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Speaker 16: Well, I feel like you just kind of have that Well,

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Speaker 16: I mean, maybe you think it could be the gay thing.

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Speaker 8: That's why I said stereotypical, but all in jest, So okay,

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Speaker 8: but seriously.

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Speaker 1: Back to the kind of the the thing. How do

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Speaker 1: we kind of fix that or solve that or at

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Speaker 1: least accommodate for it.

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Speaker 16: I think that now that people like myself have kind

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Speaker 16: of leaked into the conservative movement. I think you're gonna

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Speaker 16: start seeing it a little bit more. How can we

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Speaker 16: do it? Everyone has to be open minded and not

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Speaker 16: closed minded a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I there are limits are limits.

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Speaker 8: The limits are probably a little bit for By the way,

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Speaker 8: for those of you watching at home, I threw Anthony a.

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Speaker 1: Big curve ball here. I said, you want to talk.

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Speaker 1: You said, oh, we'll talk about anything like Pam Bondia.

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Speaker 1: Like you said anything, I'm gonna hold you to it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, sorry, keep interrupting you like that's okay.

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Speaker 16: I think that there's a big difference though, between a

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Speaker 16: Republican and a conservative. Okay, And I think when people

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Speaker 16: think a republican.

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Speaker 6: Of course we.

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Speaker 16: Vote that way as a conservative because we appreciate many

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Speaker 16: of the bills that are brought to us and a

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Speaker 16: lot of values. But I think conservatism or conservatives have

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Speaker 16: embodied more of a.

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Speaker 6: Middle of the road, but not completely middle of the road.

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Speaker 16: Does that make sense, still holding the values that the

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Speaker 16: right has, but also keeping true to like the Constitution,

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Speaker 16: our rights as Americans, conservative Christian values, conservative values just

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Speaker 16: in general, your family.

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Speaker 6: Value, you know.

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Speaker 16: So, I just I think conservatives are a little bit

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Speaker 16: more edgier than just a stark Republican.

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Speaker 6: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: I think I think that. But this is the thing

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Speaker 1: is it's kind of an intangible thing, so it's hard

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Speaker 1: to describe.

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Speaker 11: This is.

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Speaker 1: I was making this commentary about when the manosphere right,

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Speaker 1: So the Libs have named the podcast world the manosphere,

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Speaker 1: and I see all these podcasts of them trying to

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Speaker 1: dissect what's going on, which to me says, Okay, well

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Speaker 1: you don't get it, like that's it. You can't explain it.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's a thing. And this is I kind

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Speaker 1: of think one of those.

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Speaker 9: Yea.

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Speaker 1: So one of the when you came on the show

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Speaker 1: last we played a commercial from the Libs about just

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Speaker 1: a ridiculous scenario where that you look like one of them.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna take you into port you and I

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Speaker 1: think your reaction was was very helpful in making that

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Speaker 1: thing just go megaviral. Yeah, what is the most ridiculous

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Speaker 1: thing that you've seen as of late from libs on

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Speaker 1: either TikTok Twitter? What's come up in your feet of

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Speaker 1: like somebody ranting to the camera that you've seen that

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Speaker 1: You're just like, oh my gosh this.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I think the alligator Alcatraz thing has

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Speaker 16: completely like brain rotted them. Like they are like it's

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Speaker 16: like a robot that has lost all of its chip

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Speaker 16: and so they're like freaking out about it. Listen, Alligator

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Speaker 16: Alcatraz is a stepping stone to bring you back home

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Speaker 16: to where you need to go. I think Ron Desanti

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Speaker 16: has put together a great facility and matter they have

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Speaker 16: air conditioning. Bro Like they were bringing food, like food

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Speaker 16: rest like restaurants were.

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Speaker 6: Bringing food into the facility.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Like it's not like they're starving them.

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Speaker 16: There's worst places in the United States that you can

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Speaker 16: go in the South to a jail.

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Speaker 1: If you read the New York Times, we're feeding illegals,

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Speaker 1: sorry migrants to the alligators. Yes, I read that. He

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Speaker 1: can we do that? Is that? Is that constitutional? Of course?

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Speaker 1: Like nobody's advocating for violatins.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, they're they're showing like videos of them like literally

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Speaker 16: hauling gators like in cranes.

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Speaker 8: Did you see the so uh kilmar Abrego Garcia the

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Speaker 8: Maryland father He lived in Maryland.

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Speaker 1: He was a father, that's the only thing.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't a human trafficker or a wife beater, but

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Speaker 8: he said, I was tortured in the in the prison

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Speaker 8: cells at L Salvador.

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Speaker 1: Did you see this? Then tweeted out a video of

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Speaker 1: him fishing with a bird in a zoo.

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Speaker 8: He was gardening, playing soccer. It looked fun, I controversially.

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Speaker 1: Asked a questions, Can I get sent to a Salvador?

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Speaker 6: Sounds like a nice little getaway, right right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? The cell phone there.

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Speaker 16: So here's what's crazy is if you're ever on social media,

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Speaker 16: so TikTok, there's like a prison TikTok. There's there's somebody

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Speaker 16: has a cell phone in Alcatraz, like an alligator Alcatraz,

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Speaker 16: and they're like live or I think it says a

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Speaker 16: day in the.

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Speaker 6: Life of Alligator Alcatraz. It's like a view of the toilets.

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Speaker 6: And I was like, so, how bad can it be?

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Speaker 6: At the cell phone? And they're making money on TikTok

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Speaker 6: live like a.

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Speaker 1: Freaking Greta on her ship.

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Speaker 8: We've been kidnapped and I'm tweeting about it, and uh,

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Speaker 8: they're giving us food and letting us watch movies and

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Speaker 8: all of these things. Right, I just okay, this is

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Speaker 8: this is you know, we're taking this in a really

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Speaker 8: weird direction. I have a stand up bit about mocking

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Speaker 8: somebody for who they are so that they can take

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Speaker 8: it to their friends at their next dinner party and

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Speaker 8: be like the light of the room there, like going

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Speaker 8: out of the window and yelling something derogatory at somebody,

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Speaker 8: not because I believe that or think that, but so

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Speaker 8: that they can go to their next And did you hear.

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Speaker 6: What happened to Steve? Is that something that.

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Speaker 1: I should do in real life? I think you should.

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Speaker 16: I think I think it would. It would, It would

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Speaker 16: light a little flame, you know one.

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Speaker 8: Especially if they look like their libs and just kind

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Speaker 8: of you know, in that world where like there's a

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Speaker 8: power to be a victims in there, like, hey man, I.

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Speaker 1: Helped you out in your social circle. Yeah, thank you,

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Speaker 1: You're you're welcome.

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Speaker 6: I like that idea, you know this?

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Speaker 16: So to circle back, Jen Psaki, back to the beginning

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Speaker 16: where you said, how can we be a little bit

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Speaker 16: more cool? I mean, look at the stand up comic

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Speaker 16: world now right.

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Speaker 8: I thought you were gonna say, start yelling derogatory thing

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Speaker 8: to her widow?

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Speaker 1: Is that? What is that where you're going with this?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 16: Sorry, I could have gone anywhere you have comedy, well

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Speaker 16: a little bit. I'm I'm hosting comedy shows here and

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Speaker 16: there because I think it's like daunting to be up

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Speaker 16: there for twenty five minutes into a whole routine. It

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Speaker 16: is a long time, because five ten minutes for me

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Speaker 16: is a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to just host.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, but uh, it's another avenue that makes us cooler. Right,

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Speaker 16: You're seeing a lot like you know, THEO Vaughn's one

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Speaker 16: of my favorite podcast guys. He can have Bernie Sanderson

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Speaker 16: and he can have JD. Vanson and it's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: Like it's amazing.

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Speaker 6: So it makes us a little bit cooler.

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Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, and that that is the whole

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Speaker 1: manister that they're trying to to define. They're like, how

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Speaker 1: can we do this? Like the fact that you're trying

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Speaker 1: to means that you won't like the fact that this

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Speaker 1: is your goal. Because Joe Rogan didn't.

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Speaker 8: Set out with a goal of the biggest podcast in

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Speaker 8: the world. He's like, I'm gonna set a microphone and

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Speaker 8: you start talking. Yeah, and that was it.

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Speaker 1: If you set out with the goal of changing hearts

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Speaker 1: and minds, you won't do it because it's sorry, let's

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Speaker 1: let's rephrase that if you set out a goal for

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Speaker 1: trying to indoctrinate people into the lib mindset, it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna work. I mean it's not gonna work in general,

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Speaker 1: but more specifically, forcing something that just won't get there

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Speaker 1: is not a good approach.

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Speaker 16: So I hear that the liberal content creators are supposed

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Speaker 16: to come here today and do an unf America tour.

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Speaker 1: Another one.

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Speaker 6: I guess the last one stop so successful.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, this won't fith won't work out well with

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Speaker 16: them either.

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Speaker 6: I heard this. I don't know if it's true.

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Speaker 16: Okay, I've I've been asked to go down not by them,

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Speaker 16: but I've been asked if I wanted to go and

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Speaker 16: check it out, and I don't because it sounds pretty boring.

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Speaker 6: I want you to that sounds like fascinated we go

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Speaker 6: down there today?

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Speaker 8: Are you talking about me? I wish I could. I'm

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Speaker 8: stuck here for the next several hours. But I mean

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Speaker 8: you should, and you should film it and then send

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Speaker 8: it to me so I can laugh.

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Speaker 6: Okay, maybe I will.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's where my ghetto comes out, because I don't's debate.

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Speaker 6: Well, I just didn't get I love it.

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Speaker 1: Concuredvan, thanks so much, for stopping by. I have a

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Speaker 1: great rest of the weekend to keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on the shop that's opening up in September.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, September, Cape Coral, Florida Official Patriot Gear Store.

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Speaker 5: Awesome, man, appreciate you taking time, Thank you, Thank you,

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Speaker 5: Hello everybody.

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Speaker 7: Special episode of The Charlie Kirk Show today. One of

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Speaker 7: from and look forward to learning even more from is

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Speaker 7: Alan Jackson from Alan Jackson Ministries.

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Speaker 12: Alan.

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Speaker 7: Great to see you again.

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Speaker 12: Good to be with you again, Charlie.

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Speaker 7: I remember we had you on the program maybe six

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Speaker 7: to nine months ago.

886
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Speaker 12: From about that for the election. I know that that's right.

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Speaker 7: So why don't you take a second to reintroduce yourself

888
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Speaker 7: to our audience.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm a pastor. I serve a congregation just outside

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Speaker 12: of Nashville. I've been there for almost forty years from

891
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Speaker 12: a tent until today, so we've seen a lot of

892
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Speaker 12: change there. But really since COVID, I think we've been

893
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Speaker 12: a lot more engaged with culture. You know, it feels

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Speaker 12: like the curtain got pulled back when COVID happened in

895
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Speaker 12: places that I had trusted for information. Places that I

896
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Speaker 12: thought were like rock solid, like the CDC proved to

897
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Speaker 12: be a little less so. And it really started me

898
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Speaker 12: on this adventure of trying to engage our culture from

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Speaker 12: a biblical worldview. And so your voice is such an

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Speaker 12: important part of that. It's an honor to have some

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Speaker 12: time with you.

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Speaker 7: Thank you well, look forward to continuing to learn more.

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Speaker 7: You're in Murphy's Borough, Tennessee. Is that right?

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Speaker 12: That's it?

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Speaker 7: You got a world outreaks church. So I got it

906
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Speaker 7: the first time. I deserve points for that. So tell

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Speaker 7: me about your ministry journey. You said you started in

908
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Speaker 7: a tent. Yeah, how old were you? And was this

909
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Speaker 7: a church that you started with your wife? Tell me

910
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Speaker 7: the story now, the backstory is probably worthwhile.

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Speaker 12: I'll even go back other than that, my parents had

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Speaker 12: a Bible study in their home for twelve years and

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Speaker 12: the church came out of that. But the real root

914
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Speaker 12: of that was when I was eight years old, my

915
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Speaker 12: mom gave birth to my youngest brother. I've got two brothers.

916
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Speaker 12: We went to church every Sunday, but we weren't Christians.

917
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Speaker 12: Sitting in church doesn't make you a Christian. And when

918
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Speaker 12: she was in the hospital, the doctors diagnosed her with

919
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Speaker 12: cancer and said she had six months to live and

920
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Speaker 12: they wanted to do some pretty dramatic surgery. So my

921
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Speaker 12: parents scheduled a flight to Mayo Clinic.

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Speaker 7: In Rochester, Minnesota, YEP.

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Speaker 12: And on the flight, my mom said a prayer the

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Speaker 12: path they were the youth leaders actually in the Methodist

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Speaker 12: church at the time. The pastor came to visit her

926
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Speaker 12: and he didn't believe in heaven or hell. The problems

927
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Speaker 12: we have in the churches today are not new, They've

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Speaker 12: been there for a long time. Well, so she's flying

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Speaker 12: the Mayo Clinic and she said a prayer that if

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Speaker 12: there was a God, he would let her know the

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Speaker 12: truth before she died so she could tell her sons

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Speaker 12: to be Jewish or Baptist, Catholic, whatever that truth was.

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Speaker 12: She didn't have any imagination that God could heal or.

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Speaker 12: And they did a four day work up at Mayo

935
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Speaker 12: and the doctor came in a room late at night

936
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Speaker 12: and said, missus Jack, you had cancer. We have pictures

937
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Speaker 12: of it, but we've looked for four days we can't

938
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Speaker 12: find it. Go home and raise your babies. So my

939
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Speaker 12: mom lived to be eighty eight. The doctors missed that

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Speaker 12: by fifty plus.

941
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Speaker 7: Years, and so that's not six months.

942
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Speaker 12: That started our journey into Christianity. And so my dad

943
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Speaker 12: brought us to Middle Tennessee for the Tennessee Walking Horses

944
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Speaker 12: and started a bet practice, and they opened their home

945
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Speaker 12: for a Bible study. And when we moved to Middle Tennessee,

946
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Speaker 12: the schools were still segregated. It was a very different

947
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Speaker 12: place than it is today. And so they opened their

948
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Speaker 12: home to it looked like the Island of the Misfit Toys.

949
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Speaker 12: People from different nations, different colors, most of their lives

950
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Speaker 12: had some pretty gaping holes. And that was the genesis

951
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Speaker 12: of the church. So for two to three decades, I

952
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Speaker 12: just put my head down and serve people. And then

953
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Speaker 12: I really I didn't like television ministries for a lot

954
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Speaker 12: of apparent reasons that we could probably all talk about,

955
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Speaker 12: and I certainly didn't want to be one of them,

956
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Speaker 12: and I understood that the assignment was directed that way.

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Speaker 12: So I started to change some of my behaviors and patterns,

958
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Speaker 12: and we started getting involved with some things in the media.

959
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Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, it's a heart

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Speaker 12: to see people engage with God. God changes lives. You know,

961
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Speaker 12: when I grew up in church. Ministers were long black robes, investments.

962
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Speaker 12: I remember seeing a pastor smile and I thought, you know,

963
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Speaker 12: I can't do that. I was on my way to

964
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Speaker 12: medical school because I thought I couldn't do that. But

965
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Speaker 12: I realized that faith was the most important thing in

966
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Speaker 12: my life. And so we just pushed all the chips

967
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Speaker 12: in the middle of the table and said let's go.

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Speaker 12: And we're still playing that hand out today.

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Speaker 7: And so explain to me how it has grown. As

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Speaker 7: Daisy fixes my ear plug.

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Speaker 12: It takes a lot of help for us to sit

972
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Speaker 12: in these chairs. I know, we don't get here by ourselves.

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Speaker 7: Its like getting into a cockpit. Thank you, Daisy. Explain

974
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Speaker 7: to me, he looks the same that she tried her hardest.

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Speaker 7: You guys started with what one hundred people, and then

976
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Speaker 7: they started with twenty nine, twenty nine people? And what

977
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Speaker 7: is the size you're at today on.

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Speaker 12: A typical weekend, there's about fifteen thousand.

979
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Speaker 11: Wow.

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Speaker 7: So and not counting the millions you reach.

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Speaker 12: Now that's not the broadcast side, but the community's growing.

982
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Speaker 12: Middle Tennessee's grown. It didn't happen in a vacuum, So

983
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Speaker 12: that would be misleading. And to be honest. For the

984
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Speaker 12: first ten years that nothing changed too much. We had

985
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Speaker 12: about two hundred people and it stayed that way. I

986
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Speaker 12: had to learn, you know, I thought church was a mystery.

987
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Speaker 12: I thought God was a mystery. And when I came

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Speaker 12: to understand that spiritual change is as intentional as making

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Speaker 12: a medical diagnosis or putting it together an effective political campaign,

990
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Speaker 12: it's really not a mystery. It's hard work and its intentionality,

991
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Speaker 12: and it's incremental, and it's a choice you make every day.

992
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Speaker 12: And when I understood that, then I began to understand

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Speaker 12: how to help people. And the more that happened, the

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Speaker 12: more people show up.

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Speaker 7: So part of your cultural change project is to bring

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Speaker 7: a biblical worldview to the country. Yep, is that correct?

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Speaker 7: Which I totally share. You said something quite interesting that

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Speaker 7: I want to spend some time on. Sitting in the

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Speaker 7: church doesn't make you Christian. A lot of people think

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Speaker 7: it does.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, And the label I usually use as a

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Speaker 12: generic Christian. You don't declare yourself Buddhist or Muslim or agnostic.

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Speaker 12: And in our culture, Christianity is still the predominant, probably

1004
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Speaker 12: spiritual voice, so people just self identify as Christian. But

1005
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Speaker 12: being a christ follower is an intentional choice to yield

1006
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Speaker 12: the authority of your life to Jesus of Nazareth. It's

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Speaker 12: not about joining a church or a denomination, or a

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Speaker 12: style of worship, or even a day of the week

1009
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Speaker 12: when you get to gather or a building you sit in.

1010
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Speaker 12: It's a decision about a person, a historical figure, and

1011
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 12: your relationship with him is what make is what defines

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Speaker 12: you as a christ follower. If Jesus isn't lord of

1013
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Speaker 12: your life, you know, it doesn't matter to me where

1014
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Speaker 12: you sit on Sunday morning. And I think there's a

1015
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Speaker 12: great deal of misunderstanding around that, and I think the

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Speaker 12: reason our nation is such trouble. Yes, you know, for

1017
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Speaker 12: several election cycles, I would hear people talk about the

1018
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Speaker 12: sleeping of the church if it woke up. And I'm

1019
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Speaker 12: not really certain that sleeping giant lives there. You know.

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Speaker 12: I've readen enough of doctor Barney's statistics.

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Speaker 7: Then, enough to make you a little depressed.

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Speaker 12: And I think we have to understand that it's informed

1023
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Speaker 12: our heritage. But that is the nature of faith. It's

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Speaker 12: the story of the Bible. God does something remarkable for

1025
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Speaker 12: a group of people, and they enjoy the opportunities that brings,

1026
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Speaker 12: and then they wander into the weeds and they get

1027
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Speaker 12: in trouble, and then they cry out for help and

1028
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Speaker 12: go raises up a voice and he delivers them. That

1029
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Speaker 12: pattern is repeated throughout the story of Scripture, both Hebrew

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Speaker 12: Bible and New Testament. And I think we're the twenty

1031
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Speaker 12: first century edition of that. We just about lost the

1032
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Speaker 12: freedoms and liberties that generations before us sacrificed for totally

1033
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Speaker 12: because we lost our worldview, we lost our grounding. We

1034
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Speaker 12: got so confused. We were reluctant to say that there's

1035
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Speaker 12: only two biological sexes. And I mean, that's like Bible

1036
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Speaker 12: one O one A. That's not pop political, that's like

1037
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Speaker 12: fundamental Christian stuff.