1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Stay right here for our final news round up and 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: information overload. All Right, News round Up, Information Overload hour 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: toll free on number. We'll get to your calls at 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: the bottom of a half hour eight hundred and nine 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: four one sean if you want to be a part 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: of the program. So I really can tell you that, 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: thanks to all of you listening to this radio show 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: and seven hundred stations strong now watching the TV show, 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: that I found my passion the first day I ever 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: got behind a radio microphone. That first day, it was it. 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: I was done. My life was over. If I had 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: to pick a life that somebody that I know that 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: I am just I admire so much and would want 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: to live myself, it would be Mike plump Pale's life. 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: We first met when he was a congressman. We met 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: I never had been to Langley before when he was 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: the CIA director, and he was very gracious to let 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: me go over and see Langley, which was pretty cool, 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, just everything you see in a Jason Bourne 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: movie basically. And then he became Secretary of State at 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: a very critical point in American history, you know, dealing 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: with the likes of you know, Little Rocket Man and 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin and President she and all his life experiences 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: are paths across many many times. I was in Helsinki, 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: I was in Vietnam, I was in Singapore, and I've 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: known him since. He's a congressman. He's also a dear friend. 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: He may be running for president. We'll ask him in 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: a second. But he wrote a book and I really 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: have started it. I really can't put it down. It's 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: never given inch fighting for the America that I love. 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: And it talks a lot about the experiences that he's 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: had both the CIA director and Secretary of State, and 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: his life isn't incredible. Mike Pompeo, dear friend, welcome back 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: to the program. How are you, sorr Sean. I'm doing great. 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for those kind words, and thanks for 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: having me on to talk about my book. What an 37 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: incredible life you have led. First of all, let me 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: start with the CIA. I'm if I could be a spy. 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I would love to be a spy. I'm fascinating by 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: that entire world. And the thing is, you really can't 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: tell me much of what you know about what's really 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: going on in the world, can you? A lot of 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: that is quiet for a reason. I will say the 44 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: say it doesn't get it right every day. But the 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: men and women who are out there, you met them 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: when you went out to Langley. These are patriots trying 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: every day to just be free, to put a dagger 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: in their teeth and get out and protect America. And 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: so it was a wonderful opportunity to leave them, to 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: take risks on the side of them, and to deliver 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: really good intelligence for the president of United States of America. 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: At the time, President Trump was an America first president. 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: President Trump had made a commitment to get out of 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: long protracted conflicts abroad, both by the way. Everything that 55 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: they had promised he fulfilled. He defeated the Isis Caliphate, 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: which I don't think he got enough credited for, and 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: he did it systematically. You got you were there, You've 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: met Kim Jong un, You've met Vladimir, you've met President She. 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: You discuss all of this in the book. Let's talk 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: a little bit about the people, the evil actors on 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: the world stage. All three the ones that I've mentioned, 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: I would view as hostile regimes, hostile actors. You didn't 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: really have the best words to say for any of them. 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Let's start with Vladimir Putin. You said he can be funny. 65 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: He's funny. Look, he's a train KGB agent. You know, 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: it's exactly what he's doing. I've been criticized for saying 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: he's smart. But you know, Sean, we have to respect 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: our adversaries. We have to love them like what they're doing. 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: But you can't call isis the JV because you're gonna 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: get people's heads cut off. You see, Yeah, you said 71 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: he he said he's funny, but you also said he's evil, 72 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: and you're right, he's evil. Yeah, that's right. He's evil 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: and his intention to conquered greater Europe has never wavered. 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: What wavered was his perception of American leadership. In for 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: four years, we convinced Latimer Putin that it wasn't worth 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: a candle. Right, he takes Cremeia twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, 77 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't move on Europe for four years, and then 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: he goes back at it with President by Putin didn't change, 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: American leadership changed, and then never give an inch. I 80 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: write about the tools we used of American power. We 81 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: didn't Johan, we didn't send the eighty second airport. We 82 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't send the Marine Division. We used American power to 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: protect and secure America. One of the things that I 84 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: found interesting is before you met him, it was clear 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: he studied you, and that, you know, on the reverse 86 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: side of that, you studied him. When when you're preparing 87 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: for a summit like that or a meeting like that 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: with you know, one of our biggest geopolitical foes, M 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: what does that entail? Oh goodness, I did. I spent 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: it would have been a couple of months preparing for 91 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: my first meeting with him, trying to learn everything we 92 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: know who's met with him before. In the book, I 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: talked about the fact never get to take effect that 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: a Dennis Rodman was the American record holder for spending 95 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: time with Chairman Kim. He coached the North Korean basketball team, 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: and so we read what he had told us about 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: his visits. We read the histories about Chairman Kim's childhood, 98 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: he studied in Switzerland, and then all that the Intelligence 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: Committee had been able to collect so that we had 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: as good an understanding of how he thought about his 101 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: country so that we could deliver for hours. So when 102 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: you meet with Plutin, you know he's calculating, you know, 103 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: At times it was a tense discussion. At other times 104 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: it was more lighthearted. I know you can't get into 105 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: specifics for national security concerns, but what can you tell us, No, 106 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: Plutin was a special difficult case for us because the 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: Trump administration lived under the Russia hooks for the first 108 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: two and a half years of our time, right where 109 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: New York Times, Washington Post We're out and Adam Scheff 110 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: telling this false narrative about Trump and everyone in his 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: orbit being a Russian asset. So the meetings with him 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: were complicated by that fact. He was serious in his results, 113 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: but he that we were different cats, that we were 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: different from the presidents that he had dealt with previously, 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: and so I think his perception of risk was just 116 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: really really different. He was talking to us. Remember, we 117 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: have lots of places we come into contact with Russians. 118 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: We came into contact with them in Syria, and when 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: they crossed our red line and sent troops across the 120 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Euphrates River, we took out three hundred five years soldiers. 121 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: I think those are the kinds of things to send 122 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: a message to. Putin had said, this is not my moment, 123 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: and that's how you protect America and make it more 124 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: prosperous without big, adventurous American diplomacy. You know, I'm often 125 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: called a warmonger by folks on the left. The trip 126 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: is we were just the opposite of that. We built 127 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: at a peace regime in the Middle East, in Asia 128 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: and in Europe that served us well and for four 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: years we had no new war Sean, we took down 130 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: the Caliphat and it was a pretty successful run. Let 131 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: me go into the issue was involving him. Did you 132 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: were you surprised by Ukraine and his invasion? And here's 133 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: my analysis, and it's based in part on what sources 134 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: have told me, my own observations, and my own reading 135 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: of press reports. I got the sense that Donald Trump 136 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: spoke so freely to Putin that you know, he would 137 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: say things, if you do A, I will do B 138 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: and B would be so it would be such a colossal, 139 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: you know, promise that I think Putin was probably maybe 140 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: taken aback. Maybe there was only one percent of him 141 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: that thought this guy might be crazy enough to do 142 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: what he's saying it was, and there was a certain 143 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: fear factor with Trump. Maybe if it was only one percent, 144 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: maybe this guy is crazy enough to do something like that. 145 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: Was that real, Shan, You have it largely right. This 146 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: is a classic Reagan deterrence bottle. There's a peace their strength, 147 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: and we delivered that. And your point is well taken. 148 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: The messages that we said to the Russians weren't headlines 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: in the newspaper. They were private conversations about the things 150 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: we really cared about, the things that made it different. 151 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Things we were prepared to defend. There of the things 152 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, you all want to go do that, okay, 153 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: But on the things that mattered to keep Americans safe, 154 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: we were pretty clear and we told them what our 155 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: expectation was and what the cost of that would be 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: if he went down that path. And I think that's 157 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: why we were able to keep him in the box 158 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: for our four years, including Ukraine. Everybody knew at that 159 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: time he had territorial ambitions for Ukraine. Those conversations I 160 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 1: assume came up in those meetings. Absolutely, No, you're Sean, 161 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: You've got it exactly right. Putin hasn't changed your point 162 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: about his territorial ambitions. That is a throughout proposition for 163 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: his whole life. What changed was his perception of risk 164 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: and when Biden says, a mayor incursion is okay, or 165 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: walks us out of Afghanistan in the most humiliating way 166 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: you can imagine, with the lost thirteen American life. Putin says, 167 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: this is my time, and you got to worry about 168 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: the impact. How is the how is President she reading? 169 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: What's going on with Ukraine. I'll get to that in 170 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: a minute. Let me talk a little bit. I was there. 171 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: I actually saw you in Singapore. I'm sure you don't remember, 172 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: during a summit in twenty eighteen, and you were I 173 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: was actually laughing. You may actually met little rocketman Kim 174 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: Jong un. You referred to him as a small, sweating, 175 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: evil dictator from North Korea, but you also studied him 176 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, crediting him that he was smart, savvy, ruthless. 177 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: And I remember at the time people were upset that 178 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was even meeting with him. And I said, folks, 179 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: what did Donald Trump give Kim Jong un? Nothing except 180 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: his time, But we got the remains of Americans from 181 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: the Korean War back. He stopped firing his missiles every 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: other day, and a relationship developed, and the world, in 183 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: that sense was a little safer because of a rapport 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: that was built. To me, it was a brilliant strategy, 185 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: absolutely brilliant and well executed too, and never given into 186 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: the book. I talk about the three hockages we got 187 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: back as well shot too. Yeah. Yeah. In front of 188 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: the book, we actually have a statement from one of 189 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the hostages, in his own words, in thought he was 190 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: being released. He shows up at the tarmac and there 191 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: is this beautiful white over blue American aircraft with an 192 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: American seal audit. This is American time. We didn't sean, 193 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: we didn't apologize, we didn't pay a penny, and we 194 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: got those three Americans out. No policy there, worked, delivered 195 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: for the American people, and reduced an awful out of 196 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: risk here at home. And Trump joked that Elton John's 197 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: song rocket Man was a great song, and he really 198 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: meant that his compliment that was hilarious. Yeah, Chairman Kim 199 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: saw right through that. He had his own response. What 200 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: I would vaguely remember his saying something along the lines 201 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: of your rocketman, okay, little rocket Man, not okay, which 202 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: is pretty good. So I would argue and correct me 203 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,359 Speaker 1: if you think I'm wrong that America's number one geopolitical 204 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: foe today is China. That's what concerns me so much 205 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: about the Bidens and the family business and the one 206 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: point five billion dollar deal with the Bank of China, 207 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: a deal on sending natural gas to China, a five 208 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: million dollars no interest forgivable loan. I'm sure you would 209 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: love those terms yourself, and everybody listening would. Yeah, you 210 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: can't to get that deal. Um So, but you really 211 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: you referred to what did you say about President Sheet 212 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: That he was dour um just kind of dead eyed 213 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: to you, I think is the term you used. Yeah, 214 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: he was of all the senior leaders I met with, um, 215 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: he was the most difficult to penetrate. He got this. 216 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: He had a blank space. He was difficult and nasty. 217 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: In every conversation, there were no there were no light 218 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: moments in my conversations with him. It was it was 219 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: all serious, and he always had this chip on his shoulder. 220 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: I think he understood deeply that our model was a 221 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: superior model. But he was determined to try and make 222 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: America be a nation in decline. And you could read 223 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: that and feel that in every it oozed from him 224 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: time I met with him. Well, apparently he made a 225 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: call to Trump demanding you get fired over comments you 226 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: made about COVID. Yeah, that's that's exactly right. My comments 227 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: are actually about the Chinese comment is party more broadly. 228 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: But on a phone call in the time that COVID 229 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: was wearing its ugly head here in America, he just 230 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: railed on me. And he would have probably known I 231 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: was on the call. The call was between the two leaders, 232 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: but he would have known I was on the calling 233 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: when when the call ended, President Trump called me back 234 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: and said that Eff and guy hate you, which I 235 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: by the way, that's a badge of honor. I like that. 236 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Maybe so, But in any event, it was as quotures 237 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: I think, as I've ever come, as I came to 238 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: get a fire shot. Uh you got a little bit 239 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: of refend. You posted a picture quote what you describe 240 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: as a completely innocent photo of his dog cuddling a 241 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: well chewed Winnie the Pooh toy. Uh yeah, yeah, having 242 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: some fun. You were just having some fun. He doesn't 243 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: like the fact he's been compared to that he looks 244 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: like Whinney the Pooh, And so we have to Dold retrievers, 245 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: and one of them at a wanted the poo puppy 246 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: and I just thought, boy, that that's funny to watch 247 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: my dog play and put it up on Twitter. It was. 248 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: It was a little bit fun I had my own 249 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: discussions with Dennis Rodman and he gave me some insights 250 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: into a little rocket Man too. Let me talk about 251 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: just real quickly, the state of the world as you 252 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: see it today. I think I speak for a lot 253 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: of conservatives, and I'm angry that our Western European and 254 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: NATO allies don't do most of the contributing as it 255 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: relates to Ukraine. That's in their backyard. It's not on on 256 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: our backyard. And no conservatives are angry because it doesn't 257 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: seem like we're fighting that war to win it and 258 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: we're paying the bulk of money. And why doesn't Why 259 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: doesn't NATO, Why doesn't Western Europe? Why don't they understand 260 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: this is a existential threat to them? So that's a 261 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: long running problem. The videotape from I think it was 262 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: the spring of eighteen, or maybe it's the fall of 263 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: two eighteen, would President Trump and I sitting the NATO 264 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: leadership demanding that they defend themselves right, that they don't 265 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: depend on Russian gas. We told them time and time again, 266 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: this is going to end badly. We wouldn't we wouldn't 267 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: have known exactly how. But we've got forty years. We 268 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: say Europe, really France in Germany, the two big economies 269 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: there under investing in their own defense, and you can 270 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: see this coming back to kick them in the head. Now, No, 271 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: that's for the conflict. There's only one way we're going 272 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: to stop the killing that's taking place there. There's only 273 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: one way we're going to prevent to continue ratcheting up 274 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: with pain on Europe. And that just means we're going 275 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: to have to provide the Ukrainians the tools they need 276 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: to actually achieve an outcome that is permanent and lasting. 277 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: All Right, I want to hold you through the break 278 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: if you can give me just a couple of minutes here. 279 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: The book is phenomenal. I really only have two big 280 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: questions for you. You know what one of them is. 281 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: So we'll get to Mike Pompeio on the other side. 282 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: His new book is out, Never Given Inch, Fighting for 283 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: the America. I love Nity dot com, Amazon dot com, 284 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: bookstores everywhere. Uh, And we'll get to more with the 285 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: former secretary in a minute at nine pm. Do you 286 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: know where your president is. Yeah, he sounded asleep with 287 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: a lot of care in the world. Must be nice, yo, 288 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: the rest of us, We'll keep working. You are show 289 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: you know when the going gets tough, you can count 290 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: on big business to have your back. Well not exactly, 291 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: because we all know the big business, especially big wireless business, 292 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna lock you down into multi year contracts with 293 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: huge penalties. Well that's not the case with my cell 294 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: phone company, Pure Talk, the no contract wireless company and 295 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: the only wireless company to offer one hundred percent money 296 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: back guarantee. That's right, Pure Talk. 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Say the keywords save now do it now, 307 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: you save fifty percent off your first month pound two 308 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: fifty keywords. Save now from pure talk, simply smarter wireless 309 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: restrictions apply c site for details. I hope we come 310 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: back Mike Pompeio. I have a few more questions for 311 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: him on the other side. He's worked in the CIA's 312 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: worked in Congress, and he's worked at Secretary of State. 313 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: I want to get his thoughts on the issue of 314 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: a deep state. Does it exist, how does it? How 315 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: do we deal with it in the end, and the 316 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: investigations obviously going on by Jim Jordan and Jim come 317 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Also is he running for president? A lot of speculation 318 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: he might be. We'll talk to him about that and 319 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: much more on the other side as we continue a 320 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: right twenty five now to the top of the hour. 321 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. Eight hundred nine for 322 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: one seawan our number if you want to be a 323 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: part of the program. I said two questions, but I'm 324 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: gonna invoke talk show host privilege here and make it 325 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: three more questions. A former Secretary of State, former CIA director, 326 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: former Congressman Mike Pompeo is with us. You've got a 327 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: great new book out gives you a lot of insight 328 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: into the foreign policy adventures you might want to call 329 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: them during the Trump years. Never give an inch fighting 330 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: for the America that I love. Uh, mister secretary, thanks 331 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: for staying with us. It's on Amazon dot com, Hannity 332 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: dot com, bookstores, everywhere. First question is the obvious one. 333 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk speculation you may be 334 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: running for president. Are you thinking about it? I am Sean, Susan, 335 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: my wife Susan and I are praying, trying to figure 336 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: out if this is the right time and we're the 337 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: right folks to leave the country forward. We'll get to 338 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: we'll get through the bong, and then if we decide 339 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna go do it, we'll add to Iowa, do 340 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure South Carolina and begin to make the case 341 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: to the American people. I had. It's to me it's 342 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: a little early to be talking about twenty twenty four. 343 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we just got out of an election cycle. 344 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: But I asked Nicky Haley on Friday a question I'll 345 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: ask you the same one. So both of you work 346 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: for President Trump. President Trump is the only announced candidate, 347 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: and my question is where do you see differences between 348 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: Trump policies America? First, make America Great Again. Policies versus 349 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: your policies. What's different? Goodness, a lot of them would 350 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: be in the space I wasn't operating in Sean it 351 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: would be. And the way we think about the American economy, 352 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: we need to the Trump admistration to spend an awful 353 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of money. We're now thirty two thirty one trillion 354 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: dollars in the whole, and so there is a lot 355 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: of work to fix that. Our kids and our grandkids 356 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: were living a very different America if we keep flowing 357 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: two trillion dollars in debt on top of the United 358 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: States every year. And that's the security issues. There aren't 359 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: a whole lot of differences in terms of how I 360 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: would deliver, But I do think it's really important that 361 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: we speak to the American people about it in a 362 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: way that was different than we sometimes be in the 363 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: Trump administration. All Right, so let me ask you this 364 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: because I think this is very very important. Look, primaries 365 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: are going to be primaries. Whoever gets in gets in, 366 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, it's going to 367 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: be able to Republican voters. Here's a question that I 368 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: think you would probably be the most able to answer, 369 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if you can. And I believe 370 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: that we now have an FBI sadly that's been politicized. 371 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I'll give you two quick examples and adj that's weaponized. 372 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Bruce Orr warned everybody not to trust 373 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: the dossier, that it was a political document and it 374 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: wasn't verified. That was in August to twenty sixteen. In 375 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: early October of twenty sixteen, the FBI sent agents abroad 376 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: to meet with Christopher Steele, the author of the bought 377 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: and paid for Russian dossier that has now been debunked, 378 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: as you know, and they were never able to give 379 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: him a million dollar bounty that they all for him. 380 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: So by the end of October, they use the bulk 381 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: of information in the FISA application to spy on Carter 382 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: Page and backdoor their way into the Trump campaign and 383 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: then later presidency. They used that document. And Andrew McCay, 384 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: the deputy AFPI director, even said without the dossier they 385 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: never would have had the FISA Warren approved. My question 386 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: is is simple. And then in twenty twenty, you know, 387 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: we know big tech companies were meeting weekly with FBI representatives, 388 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: headed up by an agent that wrote a thesis in 389 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen that Donald Trump, how Donald Trump and Russia 390 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: colluded for him to win in twenty sixteen, So obviously 391 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: there's a bias. They gave Twitter three and a half 392 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: million dollars, but they kept warning all these big tech companies, 393 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: hey be on the lookout for disinformation from foreign adversaries. 394 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: They might even talk about Hunter Biden, and they mentioned 395 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: that name. The head of the site integrity at Twitter, 396 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: either the name of mister Roth testified to that case. 397 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: And what was it, Missouri case o Richmond was running 398 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: the case of the time. So my question is is 399 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: there a deep state? The answer that shot is yes. 400 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: It's a little different than some folks think about it. 401 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: But this is you have and I'll speak directly to 402 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: the State Department. I want to talk about the FBI stuff, 403 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: but the State Department, US State department that doesn't execute 404 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: the president's missions. That they resisted nearly everything that we 405 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: tried to do, whether it was the Abraham Accords, of 406 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: the strike on Constans Solomoni, the list goes on. They 407 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: were they were their own little blob, their establishment blob, 408 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: and that is deeply dangerous to the United States of America. 409 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: And so we've got to I have a theory of 410 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: the case on how one can fix this. It would 411 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: start with just being able to fire every single one 412 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: of them if you needed to. They didn't do their 413 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: job just like you would do in your business. Shot 414 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: to get rid of them. You know, your point on 415 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: the FBI is a good one and never given inch. 416 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: I write about January sixth, two thou seventeen, I was 417 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: still just remember Congress, but I was the nominate to 418 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: BCI director And when you read the story of what Clapper, 419 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: Coomi and Brennan did to Donald Trump at Trump Tower 420 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: that day, they basically called him in and briefed him 421 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: and said you're a Russian asset, and they knew it 422 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: wasn't true. And there I was. I was asked to 423 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: be there because I carried a top secret security clearance 424 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: because of my time on the House Intelligence Committee. And 425 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, you just undermined what the American people 426 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: just voted for. January sixth, twenty seventeen was a seminal 427 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: day as I watched really Comey and Clapper behave in 428 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: ways that were unconscionable, and they knew it couldn't have 429 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: been true. But they kept signing them. I mean, you know, 430 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: they've since had hearings where everyone signed onto the FIS 431 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: application that we now know was unverifiable because it was 432 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: never true. They all walked. There were no consequences for anybody. 433 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. The fact that McCabe, who even the FBI 434 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: said line, hasn't been held accountable is deeply Unamerican. This 435 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: I hope. I hope Congress will get outer this. I 436 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: hope Timmy Jordan and his team will get out to 437 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: this the same way he and I chased down Hillary 438 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Clinton on Benghazi. The American people, at the very least 439 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: need to know what their FBI did under the leadership 440 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: of Director. Coming to me, I think we're at the 441 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: point where it's sort of like where we have to 442 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: have a church committee. You know. One of the things 443 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed, We've had a good friendship relationship. I 444 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: had no hesitancy asking you if I had a doubt 445 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: about a certain person and if you could give me guidance, 446 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: and you would always tell me the truth if you 447 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: if you could, there occasions you could absolutely no, no, 448 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: every time I could absolutely no. We need our government 449 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: to be responsive, not political, and we saw Brennan did 450 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: the same thing out at CIA. He made it political. 451 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: He knew the steel Dotsea shouldn't have been included in 452 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: that report, and he bypassed and I write about this 453 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: and never given and he bypassed the analytical process to 454 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: do that. This is inconsistent with how leaders should behave 455 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: and all of them are out now making money, talking 456 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: on talk shows, continuing to proper their lives to the 457 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: American people. Is there any truth to this notion, this ideam. 458 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: We've had people in the intelligence community on the show 459 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: that make an allegation that there is you know, all 460 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: these databases, the accumulation of all data, every text, every email, 461 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: every phone call, uh data mining and saving all this stuff. 462 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: Is that really happening or is that total? Bs so 463 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: sean The substance of phone calls all that I saw 464 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: and I never saw in either role. I never saw 465 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: anyone that was collecting what you're describing there, right, which 466 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: is that they can sort of replay every phone call 467 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: from two, five, ten years ago. I never saw any 468 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: evidence of that. Mike. It's a fascinating book. What I'm 469 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: not kidding, What a great life you've led. And I 470 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: know you're just beginning. But Mike Pompeo's new book, Never 471 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: Given Inch, Fighting for the America. I love. Uh, we 472 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: really appreciate your time. I appreciate your friendship. Thank you, Yes, sir, 473 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: thank you. Have a good day you too. It's on 474 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com, bookstores everywhere. Uh. Fascinating. 475 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: That a fascinating. It's what a life, when't you You You 476 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: would love to be in the room with Poutin and 477 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Chee and Kim Jong Lun and little rocket Man and 478 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: know all of our nation's secrets. I'd love to know 479 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: all that. I'm going to take a hard pass on 480 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: that and say, I'm so glad it was pompeyoa not me. 481 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm all set with not being in that room. That 482 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: sounds like it just sounds I mean, I think it 483 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: takes a very special person to walk into that room 484 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: and to be common, to be collected and understand that 485 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: you are meeting with the enemy and that there is 486 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: a greater means to an end, and that you get 487 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: you know, you get more bees with honey at the 488 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: end of the day. Right. Well, I mean, I think 489 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: what I said at one point is, you know, conveyed 490 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: to me through it different sources, is that Donald Trump 491 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: was no holds barred. Donald Trump said you do this, 492 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to do that, and what that was was 493 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: usually extreme. Well what the brea can always say, piece 494 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: through strength. Yeah, nobody's afraid of us right now. But 495 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: that was the whole point. I think that. And you know, 496 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: one of the things that I would say is an 497 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: asset that maybe some people look at as as a 498 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: deafice for Trump is that this is a certain level 499 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: of he might be crazy enough to do that. And 500 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't think any other president in the modern era 501 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: short of Reagan, had that strength, had that ability to 502 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: create that strength. Well, if you do it, I'm just 503 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to respond in kind and I and look 504 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: at me. I mean what I say, I will do it. 505 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: All right. Let's get to our busy phones eight hundred 506 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: nine Sea on our number. Andrew's in the free state 507 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: of Florida. A lot of Florida calls today. What's up, Bandro, 508 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: How are you hey? Great? John Hope you are, Thank 509 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: you for your service. I know it's a passion for you. 510 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: So I know you work, you're too long, but you 511 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: do a fantastic job. Thank you, ad it's your passion. 512 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: But last, what you're talking about the one of the 513 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: economic forums. You know, it's such a big group of 514 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, gazillionaires And the only thing that I feel 515 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: like I can do I look at the companies that 516 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: involved with that. I absolutely boycott them. I don't buy, 517 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: they don't get a cent from me. And that's the 518 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: only thing that I feel like I can do to 519 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: try to knock a hole in them a little bit, 520 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, to knock them down. It notch and if 521 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: everybody did it, maybe they started getting the message. But boycott, boycott, 522 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: boycott on people that are funding all of these crazy policies. 523 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: So that was one comment that I wanted to make. 524 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: And the other is these people like Mike Pompey was 525 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: talking about Adam Schiff, these outright falsehoods. There's got to 526 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: be some consequence for that. You know, you get ejected 527 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: from the Senate. You're not just censored, but something's got 528 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: to happen. And it just blows my mind that if 529 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: people can say complete falsehoods and it just gets sucked 530 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: under the rug and nobody does it. You know, you 531 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: can vote, but well, we're getting some work done. Now, 532 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: I kept telling everybody, Well one, I did not have 533 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: the exuberance attack that many had about the mid term elections. 534 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: I've been very dubious about how elections are being run 535 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: by Democrats, and I'm now saying it loud lee, and 536 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: I want everyone to hear me. Unless Republicans match what 537 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats are doing in terms of elections, both in 538 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: raising money for the negative ads and number two, investing 539 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: in the ballot harvesting operations that forty nine states allowed 540 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: by law and following the law. Unless we do and 541 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: match and do it better than the Democrats, you can 542 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: say goodbye to winning a lot of races. We thought 543 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: we should win, but secondly I didn't. And you got 544 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: to give up your reluctance to voting earlier by mail. 545 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah what, Yeah, we can't. We know what they do 546 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: and we got to fight. We gotta fight harder than 547 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: they do. It's forth to fight. But I just want 548 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: to say thanks for your service. Oh thank you, sir. 549 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: You make this happen, not me. I appreciate it. It's 550 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: my honor. Oh no, you know, Mo, the liberal? How 551 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: did you get on TV? How did you get through? 552 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: Who put you through? Who you know that was done 553 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: just to mess with me. How are you, sir? I contean, 554 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: I dial that number sometimes I get lucky. I'm a 555 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: very lucky man. You're lucky, all right, lucky. I bet 556 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: you live in a rent control department, don't you. I 557 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: live in the Senior Citizen's apartment in Brooklyn named Bishop 558 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: Boardman the Bishop Bill, thirty three of them in Brooklyn 559 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: during the eighties, and I'm glad to be here. It's 560 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: like winning the lottery. Honestly, Well, let me ask you. 561 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: What do you pay for your rent? Every month? If 562 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: I may ask, you don't have to answer if you 563 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: don't what My rent is four hundred dollars a month. 564 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: I live in Park Slope, Brooklyn, Yes, four hundred dollars. 565 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what the market rate is for your apartment? 566 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: How many bedrooms? Sister dollars? Is a top rent in 567 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: this building? Okay, but that's not my point. How many 568 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: bedrooms you have? I just have one bedroom. They're all 569 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: single senior citizens apartments, all right? Now, do you know 570 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: what that that would rent for on an open market, 571 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: free market? You'd be paid three four thousand dollars the 572 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: dollars a month up the block from the for a 573 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: two bedroom. I know what. This neighborhood is very nice. 574 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: I grew up here, Sean. I'm an expert on Brooklyn. Yeah, 575 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: and there you are on national television. The last segment 576 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: of our show, we call Last Call, and we let 577 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: one of the viewers have the last word. And then 578 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: you called me the most dangerous man in America yet again, 579 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Sean? You know, you have 580 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: a very eloquent voice. Your people who listen to you 581 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: are sincere. They're wonderful Americans. But you know, Sean, we 582 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: need a whole new approach here. We don't need less 583 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: people voting. We need more people voting. We need more 584 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: pay for our workers. So what if I wasn't in 585 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: this movie, where would I live in the street. I 586 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: don't want you in the street. But you know, so 587 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: what we have is taxpayers. I mean, you've been an 588 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: able body. You worked your whole life, didn't you? Yes, 589 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: of course I did. But I couldn't afford to live 590 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: in my home town. Well, I mean sometimes if you 591 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: can't afford, I had this experience in life. I had 592 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: to live outside of where whatever city I was in 593 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: because I couldn't afford to live anywhere else. Well, I 594 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: got lucky, Sean. My mother lived in this building for 595 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: thirty eight years, I said in my application, and they 596 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: called me to move in. I am a lucky man 597 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: and need more, not less. I'm not, I'm not, I'm 598 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: not mad. I'm happy, You're happy. We love you. Mo 599 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: God bless you, my friend. I don't what am I 600 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: supposed to say? Of course, I want my safe and secure. 601 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: It's time to take back America. This is a show. No. 602 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, Hannity, what kind of 603 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: gun should I get? My answer is always the same. 604 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: I tell him. 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