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I was on Hole eighteen about fifteen 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: minutes ago, and I look at my phone and I 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: see about ten text messages, one from the podcast group 31 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: text and about from fifteen other people with the rap 32 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: sheet tweet as I'm losing last one hundred and twenty bucks. 33 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: Not a great day for your boy out there. 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: On the links, the Deebo Samuel has been traded to 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders for a fifth round pick, and by 36 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: all indications the information I have I spent about five 37 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: minutes on the internet before I press play here is 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: that the commanders will take his salary of like seventeen 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: million dollars this year. So the forty nine ers get 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: rid of the salary and they get a fifth round pick. 41 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: For a guy that a couple days ago, it was 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: it was reported that Deebo Samuel had asked in basically 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: the exit meetings, like it's probably time, like I would 44 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: like a trade, I would like to move on, And 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: then John Lynch said that we will honor that. You 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: don't often hear gms at the Combine press conference talk 47 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: like that, like we plan on honoring his wishes. If 48 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: I I'm reading between the lines, Deebo Samuel is not 49 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: going to be on the forty nine Ers in twenty 50 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: twenty five. If he hadn't asked for a trade like 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: they would have tried to trade him they I think, 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, they would have cut him. So like 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel's time, the moment that season ended, he was 54 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: not going to be a forty nine er anymore. 55 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Now. I want to. 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Say this because I think sometimes in these moments there's 57 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of like I saw on forty 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: nine er Land. We got rid of his salary. 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: That is a huge win. 60 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: We don't have to eat any of the money. We 61 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: get rid of it and listen. Usually for most players, 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: especially a guy who has been a key piece on 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the league over the 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: course of his career doesn't end that well sometimes right, 65 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: and Deebo Samuel did not have a good season, but 66 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: he's a fucking war daddy, and when Deebo is right, 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: he is a championship level player. I mean some of 68 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: the biggest forty nine er wins of the Kyle Shanahan era. 69 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: And there have been a lot. They won a lot 70 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: of playoff games. They want a lot of huge regular 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: season games, primetime games, and that guy was a big reason. Now, 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: the guy we saw last season was not that version 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: of Debo that had been, you know, one of the 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: key pieces to one of the best teams in the league. 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: I do believe this, and I'm a Deebo Samuel. I'm 76 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: a huge fan because I believe in the NFL to 77 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: win at the highest level, like you need war daddies 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: on Sunday and Deebo Samuel's versatility, his physicality and just 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: his mindset in these big games, like you want guys 80 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: like that in the trenches with you, with you, and 81 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: I think for the Commanders, like when Cliff was in Arizona, he. 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: Used a lot Rondelle Moore. 83 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: They had another little guy and Deebo's not little, but 84 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: he used versatile pieces. 85 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: So to me, you get this guy. Adam Peter knows 86 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: him well, right. 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: He was part of the front office that not only 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: drafted him, but for all those years that had a 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: front row seat right there with John Lynch when Diebo 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: is making huge plays. And I will say this, I've 91 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: been to a ton of NFL games in my lifetime, 92 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: and in two thousand, it probably would have been either 93 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: late December twenty twenty one or early. 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: January twenty twenty two. 95 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers had to win the game in 96 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles to make the playoffs. If they did not 97 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: win the game, they would not have made the playoffs. 98 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: And they were getting their teeth kicked in the first half. 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: I think the score at half time was either seventeen 100 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: to three or twenty to three. 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: I was there. 102 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: It felt like one hundred to nothing. It was like 103 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: the Niners are about to lose this game forty five 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: to ten and not make the playoffs. Deebo Samuel had 105 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: I would say, in my life going to games as 106 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: good of a game, a good of a half as 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I think he ran for a touchdown. 108 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: He threw a touchdown. He basically became their running back. 109 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: This is pre Christian McCaffrey. He was an absolute war daddy, 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: running guys over, running through guys, making plays in the 111 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: pass get He was elite, he really was, and he 112 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: had so many of those games. And this is a 113 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: team like the Commanders who need to bring in a 114 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: guy like Deebo Samuel minus twenty twenty four has been 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: a part of winning consistently and he's played a key role. 116 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: And to me, there's a physical element to his game 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: that just translates in big games. Now, I think a 118 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: lot of people will say, well, he's just not the 119 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: same guy. He's a lot of miles on those tires. 120 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: He's twenty nine years old. I promise you this, I 121 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: would bet on Deebo Samuel, not for the next ten years, 122 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: not for the next five years, but I would not 123 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: be shocked at all if you get the best version 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: of them these next couple of years, and specifically in 125 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I think the Commanders are gonna get 126 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: a good player in twenty twenty five. 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be motivated. 128 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play well because last year, you know, 129 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: for his standards for forty nine ers standards and for 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, a guy making a lot of money and 131 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: viewed as a really good player. 132 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: What was a really bad season. 133 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: Now he's battled injuries over the years, from shoulders, the hamstrings. 134 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: You know, weight has been a con But I will 135 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: say this, like I love guys in the sport that 136 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, when the biggest games happen, you can win 137 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: with that guy and you can rely on that guy 138 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: and honestly, if he's playing well, he can carry you 139 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: at points in time in that those individual games. And 140 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: I've seen Deebo do that for half a decade for 141 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. So I mean it's a sad day. 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's weird, right, is a business and you 143 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: got to move on. You unload contracts. But like a 144 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: huge part of the Kyle Shanahan success and Kyle's gotten 145 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: multiple contract extensions, like this guy's played a huge role 146 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: and the Commanders know that well because Adam Peters has 147 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: been there. And plus, like I said, with Cliff Kingsbury, 148 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: using a virtual player like this, but this is also 149 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: the benefit when you are a team like Washington or 150 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: all these teams with big cap space, you can go, well, 151 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: we can basically get him on a year to year basis, 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: so we don't have to pay like a true quote 153 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: unquote free agent huge money. And if we get one 154 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: really good year out of Debo, if we can get 155 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: seventy five catches, he can play some running back, he 156 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: can return some kicks, if he can give us, you know, 157 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: seven to eight touchdowns and kind of show guys what 158 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: it takes physicality to play with the Eagles. I mean, Debo, 159 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: even though aj'ss guy like hates the Eagles, So I 160 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: think you bring that guy in Like I like the 161 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: move for Washington, and I like the move for the 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. And this is also why in the draft, 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: like last year, the Niners took a bunch of shifts, 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: like you're taking Ricky Piersoll. 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: You don't need a wide receiver. 166 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean at the time I us holding out, you 167 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: already got Debo under contract. Juwan Jennings, you know, is 168 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: kind of an up and coming player. And I remember 169 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: learning years ago, early on in my NFL career. I 170 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: think Lewis Riddick told me this one time, and it's 171 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: so true. Anytime you think you have a strength and 172 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: It's true, like the Eagles can have a really good 173 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: offensive line, then all of a sudden, you get a 174 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: couple injuries, and all of a sudden, your strength can. 175 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: Become a weakness. 176 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: Not for them because they have about ten offensive lineman 177 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: on the team, but like the forty nine ers, all 178 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you gets hurt, Deebo's banged up, and 179 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: you look at the wide receiver room You're like, what 180 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: the hell. But then toward the end of the season, 181 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsall comes in. It's why you never draft for neat. 182 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: You just take the best player on your board. And 183 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: by the end of the season, Piersall looked pretty good 184 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: and now they're really gonna have to depend on them. 185 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: And one of the things with Pearsall was like going 186 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: over the middle, breaking tackles, you know, playing that physical 187 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: role and now moving forward, like you know, it's gonna 188 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: be Perty, it's gonna be Christian McCaffrey, it's gonna be 189 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: George Kittle, and it's going to be Ricky Pearsall with 190 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Nayuk and Juwan Jennings. So this is a big 191 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: hole for the forty nine ers, Like this is a 192 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: guy that they have not only relied on for a 193 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: long time, but build game plans around. And that's what 194 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I think makes the Commander situation a little unique. They 195 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: already got, you know, a true number one in Terry McLaurin. 196 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure in this draft they will probably, like to me, 197 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: they either need a tight end or a running back, 198 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: and on the second day they're gonna be really good 199 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: tight end and running backs on the board. If you 200 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: can get kind of a Bell Weather running back and 201 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: use Debo as kind of a slot player Terry, you know, 202 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: on the outside with Jayden McDaniels, that's called Jaden McDaniels. 203 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: Been a long day, Jayden daniels. Yeah, man, I think 204 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: this is also in football, when you leave to another 205 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: team and you make these moves, you feel so much 206 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: more comfortable pulling the trigger on a trade like this. 207 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: And really, if you're the Commanders, it's just do we 208 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: want to allocate whatever seventeen million dollars of cap space 209 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: or whatever. Sometimes trades make it a little different, but 210 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty million, whatever the specific number is on 211 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: our books because a fifth round, who gives a shit, 212 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: like if Deebo's a starter in playing well, whether paying 213 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: him fifteen or eighteen, Like, are we cool with this 214 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: guy being on the team, And there are probably some 215 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: teams that were interested. But if you don't have a 216 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: coach on the staff who's worked with them, you don't 217 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: actually know him personally. 218 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of things out there 219 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: always been banged up. 220 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: Wait's been an issue, Like Adam Peters knows him really well, 221 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, couldn't know them that much better, so you're 222 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: much more comfortable making a move like this. 223 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, I just think that it's kind of the 224 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: end of an era. 225 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers are in a weird spot because 226 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: they're in a transitional period, but they're gonna have huge 227 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: expectations next year. It's not like it's gonna be any different. 228 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: And the Commanders just kind of add to their war chest. 229 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: And let's face it, like they were just in the 230 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game a little fluky in the sense that, like, 231 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, they played the Lions who were just fucking 232 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: decimated on defense, not fluky with the quarterback. But Commander 233 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: fans will will acknowledge, like their roster host Jayden Daniels 234 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: and like McLaurin and a couple other guys, isn't that great. 235 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be dramatically better this season with a with 236 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: free agency, another draft, adding guys like Debo, so you're 237 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: gonna feel that like maybe our record, like they could 238 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: win eleven games where last year they won twelve and 239 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: be a much better team. And having a guy like 240 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: Deebo also like throw it to them on screens to 241 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: him behind the line of scrimmage, it gives you a 242 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: lot of easy lamps. Now, he dropped the ball out 243 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: last year, which I think drove the forty nine ers nuts. 244 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: And I do think this gets back to last. 245 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: Year in the Super Bowl. 246 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: If you depend on Debo to be kind of like 247 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: your go to wide receiver, he's not just getting open 248 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: with out routes and slant routes and like he couldn't 249 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: get open against the Chiefs, and that was something And 250 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: Tim Kawakami has reported on this for years. I guess 251 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: a year is like that kind of bothered the forty 252 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: nine Ers, which to me, it's like I remember being 253 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: at that Super Bowl two years ago in Vegas and 254 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: being with the Chiefs or like, yeah, we don't think 255 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: Demo's not gonna like get open on us. It's like, yeah, 256 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: guys like that's not really Deebo's thing. And I think 257 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: sometimes Kyle could be kind of hardheaded with him, and 258 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: the relationship had just ran its course. But you know, 259 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm sad. I thoroughly enjoyed the Deebo Samuel experience. I 260 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: just saw him when I was flying out to New Orleans. 261 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: He was on my plane. 262 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: I thought he looks good. 263 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's a very unique body type, 264 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: right because when you stand next to him, he doesn't 265 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: look like these wide receivers, they're like linear and thinner. 266 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: He's just a thick dude. 267 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's built, definitely in his lower body, much 268 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: more like a running back or a linebacker. But to me, 269 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: the mindset and the way he plays when he's going 270 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: is something you don't teach, you know, even in at 271 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: the highest level of football. Some guys want contact more 272 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: than others. And I don't blame any guy that doesn't 273 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: want contact. I mean, you get fucking Molly wopp by 274 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: some safety or linebacker running a four to four, it's 275 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: gonna hurt. Deebo seeks that shit out, and a huge 276 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: part of the forty nine ers point of difference over 277 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: the years has been like we're gonna get in a 278 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: heavyweight fight and we're gonna break you. And they did 279 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: it that the Cowboys a couple of times. 280 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: They used to do that to the Rams all the time. 281 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: And then the Rams, I think because losing the forty 282 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: nine or so often in the regular season, like their 283 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: team's a lot more physical now, and look at the 284 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: players that they just got in Pooka Nakua, Like that 285 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: stuff always translates now Puka is a much better route 286 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: runner and a quote unquote true wide receiver. But overall, 287 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: I like, I think it's an easy trade for Washington 288 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: to make. It's a no brainer trade if you're gonna 289 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: trade Debo, like you weren't gonna get much to unload 290 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: his salary to not have to eat any of the money. 291 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not some like sappy guy when it 292 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: comes to this, but it is kind of sad. I mean, 293 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: it's just kind of the end of a run. I mean, 294 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: this was kind of I mean, he was the core 295 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: group of Trent, Fred Warner, George Kittle, Brandon Ayuk, you know, 296 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: even Christian McCaffrey like just showed up a couple of 297 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: years ago. You know, Deebo's got drafted like his rookie 298 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: year was twenty nineteen, the year they made the Super Bowl, 299 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: and by the end of the season he was really 300 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: coming on. And then the team that went to conference 301 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: championship after conference championship after conference championship, and he really 302 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: got that started back to that year in the twenty 303 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: twenty one season when he kind of carried them into 304 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs before McCaffrey showed up the following year. 305 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: He could play running. 306 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Back, which I think at this point time in his 307 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: career and listen, I don't know if it was injuries. 308 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was. 309 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he is losing a little bit of 310 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: a step, but he definitely wasn't as fast playing running 311 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: back like I thought a couple of years ago. He 312 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: could just turn into a running back and if he 313 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: had been a full time running back, could have ran. 314 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: For thirteen fourteen hundred yards the. 315 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: Forty nine ers whenever they tried to use him doing 316 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: that stuff. This year didn't quite look the same, definitely 317 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: didn't quite look as fast. But then there would be 318 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: moments late in the season where he would show it 319 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: a little bit when he caught the ball. So overall, 320 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: like I said, I still think he's got good football 321 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: left and I would expect a good season from him 322 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy. It would not shock me 323 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: at all if he has a very very productive season 324 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: for a team, Like, let's face it, in a weird way, 325 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, the commander's expectations because of what happened last 326 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: year are going. 327 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: To be outrageous. 328 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: They're going to be especially if they have a good 329 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: they land a couple solid free agents, they have a 330 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: good draft, like, they're going to be viewed as a team, Well, 331 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: you made the conference championship last year, your roster is 332 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: much better that you can rely on this guy to 333 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: win big games and he can go to war when 334 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: you're playing like the Philadelphia Eagles, when you're playing the 335 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, or the Minnesota Vikings or the Rams or 336 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Like he's a guy that you 337 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: feel very comfortable. It's like he's on my squad and 338 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: they're just you know, besides like the elite, elite guys, 339 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: which he's not in that tier. But once you get 340 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: to that next tier of guy, and this is where 341 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: it was kind of out out of whack with the 342 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: forty nine ers because it was like he was in 343 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: this weird his own little tier and he wasn't producing, 344 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: but yet he was making a lot of money. And 345 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: it's why usually you see some breakups at this point 346 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: in time and anytime to me, as you know a 347 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: general manager, when you can acquire a guy you know 348 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: for nothing, like to me, here's the other thing with nil. 349 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: The drafts in like the fifth, sixth, and seventh round 350 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: suck compared to what they used to be. You know 351 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: why because the amount of kids that go back to 352 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: school that would have been in the draft, right because 353 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: I'll just play out. I get paid to nil, I 354 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: get paid to stay. So the end of the draft 355 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: used to be better because more. 356 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: Underclassmen would come out. 357 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Not every underclassman is like the tenth overall pick, their 358 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: juniors getting drafted in the second and third round. Because 359 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: it used to be like, well, I need the money, right, 360 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't come for much. How do I turn down 361 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: getting a four year contract and making a million dollars 362 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: a year. It's like, now I'll just stay at Texas 363 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: A and M or UCLA or Washington or you name 364 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: the school, and they're paying me two million dollars, and 365 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: I can technically keep improving theoretically and in a year 366 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: get drafted even higher while I'm banking eight hundred grand 367 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: a million dollars, which is guaranteed because you know, in football, 368 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: you get pushed down the draft. 369 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: All of a sudden you're a fourth fifth round er. 370 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: You're not even guaranteed to make the team, and all 371 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're on the practice squad, which for 372 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: most people in society is like almost two hundred thousand 373 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: dollars a year. Great gig, but two hundred thousand dollars 374 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: a year if I'm a starter at fucking Texas or 375 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: Florida or Florida State, like two hundred grand and a 376 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: starter you know, starting money is like seven hundred and 377 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: fifty nine hundred million and a car and all this 378 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: other stuff. So I think that you got to factor 379 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: that into I would always if I had cap space 380 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: and I felt comfortable acquiring you know, in this example 381 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, I wouldn't even hesitate and the I have 382 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: a ton of cap space. The other thing with free agency, 383 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: and I love talking about free agency as much as 384 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: the next guy, when you actually see the list of 385 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: guys available. It's pretty random. It's not a bunch of 386 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: you know, superstar players like you don't look at the 387 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: free agent market and you go, well, the three quarterbacks 388 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: are Herbert Jalen Hurtz, and Brock Purdy. The two tight 389 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: ends are Mark Andrews and George Kittle. The running back 390 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: is like Saquon's an outlier. A lot of times when 391 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: you see free agents that hit, it's not always these 392 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: guys getting big money. Sometimes it's like random guys like 393 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: Zach Bond one year, three million, like Struck Oil. Because 394 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: most elite guys or just high end Pro Bowl impact 395 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: players get extended. In worst case scenario, I can't extend. 396 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: You can see Chiefs franchise tag now. Sometimes a franchise 397 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: tag ends up getting traded or moves teams. But one 398 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: thing in my experience being around the NFL, working in it, 399 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: doing this podcasting now for a long time, and this 400 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: time of year, free agency is not like these other sports, 401 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: like when Juan Soto or Aaron Judge or Kevin Durant 402 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: or whatever our hitting free agency. They're one hundred percent 403 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: hitting free agency. In the NFL, it's like these five 404 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: guys are free agents, they're all all pros, all of 405 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: them either get franchise tagged or extended. That always happens. 406 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: So the sweet free agent, I mean, one of the 407 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: best free agents over the last couple years. I remember 408 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk was like the top wide receiver. He ended 409 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: up being good for the Jacks. But it's like, it's 410 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: usually not like well Chase and Ceedee Lamb or hitting free. 411 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: It's not the way it works. So when you feel 412 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: comfortable doing this with a late round pick and you 413 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: got the money, it's a no brainer. And listen part 414 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: of and here's the other thing with the Commanders and 415 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers benefited from this the last couple 416 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: of years with Purty making a million bucks. When you 417 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: have a guy and because you're the number two overall 418 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: pick with you know in the draft, you're not making 419 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: a million dollars. Jaden's making six seven eight million dollars, 420 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: but relative to these other guys making forty to sixty, 421 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: it is a huge, huge advantage for you to land players. 422 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: And one of the ways to essentially land free agents 423 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: now are guys that teams want to get rid of 424 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and use. 425 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: A late round pick. 426 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: You're basically just bailing them out of the salary, and 427 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: you're acquiring a player, and you don't have to give 428 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: some contract too. He's already under contract, so you just 429 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: take the contract and you basically get to operate year 430 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: to year. So yeah, I guess my overall reaction is 431 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: no brainer move for Washington. I'm excited to watch Deebo. 432 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be good. No brainer move for 433 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. You got a draft pick, you 434 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: unload the salary. I also just think like it's kind 435 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: of sad. I mean I watched this guy. I watch 436 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: every snap of the forty nine ers, and he's played 437 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of huge games and had a lot 438 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: of huge moments, and you could feel it kind of. 439 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: Slipping this year. 440 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: Not like obviously he had a bad year, but I 441 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: just mean, like the mojo with the team, everything was off. 442 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this was the guy for a couple of years, 443 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: and like the peak when they're rattling off like twelve 444 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: thirteen wins, would like lead the team out of the 445 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: tunnel with Trent Williams, like they were the tandem with 446 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: the boom box. And now that's over. So I think 447 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: you kind of see the light at the end of 448 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: the tunnel with this forty nine er team, like they 449 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: got a shift, and John Lynch mentioned that, like we 450 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: gotta get younger, we gotta pivot off some guys and 451 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: starts with Debo. And I know there were also some 452 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: rumors about Brandon Ayuk being available. I don't know why 453 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: anyone would trade for Brandon Ayuk when he had an 454 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: E A c L N C L and like ligaments. 455 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: Uh So, I feel. 456 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Pretty confident that Brandon Ayuk will be on the team. 457 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: But hell, you never say never in pro sports. But 458 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders now have Deebo Samuel, who would have saw 459 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: that coming at the day's At the day's beginning, the 460 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: volume