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Speaker 2: wherever you're listening to this very stupid episode I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: make a promise up front, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 2: really stupid episode.

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Speaker 1: Are you all.

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Speaker 2: Comfortable with that?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Man here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Fuck it all right?

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Speaker 2: Aren't every episode not been stupid? To an extent?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 1: We done as fuck?

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Speaker 5: We done.

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Speaker 2: As always Jacos and Jones, so survide Dragonfly John's aka Tyler, Hey,

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Speaker 2: everybody have the gill in jet throw Jenkins aka John

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Speaker 2: who beat both of us to the zoom today? Was

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Speaker 2: that bubs?

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Speaker 1: Was that bubble?

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Speaker 2: We ain't gonna talk about it, were gonna talk no credit?

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Speaker 2: Where's do John?

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Speaker 1: Credit? History was made.

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Speaker 2: You like about three years? Yeah, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 2: when we.

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Speaker 1: Ain't have it's it's it's different than the Patreon days. Bro.

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Speaker 1: We just kind of that.

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Speaker 5: It was not a hard you know to hop on it.

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Speaker 5: It was a window, you know what I'm saying. It

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Speaker 5: was like a window.

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Speaker 2: There was there was a day where we were supposed

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Speaker 2: to be able to pot at nine.

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Speaker 1: Mike got on here, you got on it, eleven niggas.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Athlete.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm gonna hit my homegirl. That was like,

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Speaker 2: is that going to be a pot today? Because that

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Speaker 2: was That's a different when it's different. When you're hanging out.

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Speaker 2: You can show up a half hour late to hang

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Speaker 2: out with your friend, but its producers.

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Speaker 4: Now, dude, it's been like what two months, doub been

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Speaker 4: late because because of my workouts.

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Speaker 2: I'm reeling it in.

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Speaker 1: I'm realing it in, Guys.

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Speaker 2: I told him I was complimenting you. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why you're being so defensive, Tyler. Tyler said, history, Bro,

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Speaker 2: he wants to put you up on the mural on

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Speaker 2: time my credit. Listen. Come on, man, all right, I'm

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Speaker 2: guardy to.

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Speaker 1: Wait.

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Speaker 2: I would hey, we might have thought out, Bro, I

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Speaker 2: would record Jackson. Good, that's a good intro. Jackson, come on,

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Speaker 2: did you go okay? Okay, okay. We didn't make sure

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Speaker 2: he's recorded. To Jackson, tell everybody else, I said, did

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Speaker 2: he say that? I said? Is everyone recording?

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Speaker 5: Damn? I'm tripping?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 2: Come on, and John didn't move his camera down to

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Speaker 2: scost Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Nigga.

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Speaker 2: Come, I'll be in jump, Bro. That'll teach you to

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Speaker 2: show up on time.

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Speaker 4: John Bigger, I'm sewing up on from here now. Though

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Speaker 4: it's a new me, I'm telling y'all.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, let's talk about I

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Speaker 2: a serious conversation about NICOLEA. Jokic being a third consecutive

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Speaker 2: Jokich will be the ninth three time MVP. That's iffy,

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Speaker 5: Mind, my thing is is Yokis has been phenomenal. I

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Speaker 5: I think he's a top five player in the world.

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Speaker 5: goes back to what you said, Mike about how there's

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Speaker 5: right because Yiannis came up against the we can't get

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Speaker 5: He came across that, right, But we're willing to been

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Speaker 5: whole thing. If we're going to change the presidents. Let's

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Speaker 5: change it, you know, without you know that the white guys,

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Speaker 6: If he were to get the m v P, he

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Speaker 4: But like you said, with that context, you had to it,

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Speaker 4: there's no way he deserves to be considered in any

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Speaker 1: Right probably should have been.

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Speaker 2: And they literally said, I mean literally part of the

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Speaker 2: was almost like he's not eligible for a third straight MVP.

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Speaker 2: But as Tyler pointed out, something is different about Jokic.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a race thing. Maybe it's a foreign thing.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's that the analytics conversation over the last three

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Speaker 6: Changed much louder, much more louder.

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Speaker 2: But there's no denying that it would be a real

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Speaker 2: break from history and tradition. I personally think that that's

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Speaker 2: nuts to say Steph Curry, who has done more, in

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Speaker 2: wants to start childhood, has he had three in a row?

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Speaker 2: Has he Lebron has not won three in a row?

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Speaker 2: I think they gave this is Michael Jordan did not

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Speaker 2: to put to consciously make the decision to put jokicch

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Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck how I mean. I recognize

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Speaker 2: the greatness of Yokich and I recognize that he's had

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Speaker 2: the way these voters have voted for sixty fucking years

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Speaker 2: in the NBA, right, And that's the part of it

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Speaker 2: that bothers me. Is again, if you come see eight

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Speaker 2: year old's nine year olds ten year olds playing basketball

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Speaker 2: anywhere in America. They're playing Steph Curry's basketball. They're playing

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Speaker 2: a completely different sport than we grew up watching. That's

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Speaker 2: the one human being who changed the game that much.

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Speaker 2: Lebron James arguably the greatest ever. Michael Jordan the other

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Speaker 2: it honestly feels wrong to me, no matter how easily

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And the whole thing is this, You cannot say

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Speaker 5: the lens that we have evaluated MVPs through ever in

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Speaker 5: NBA history. There is a factor in the MVP. It's okay,

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Speaker 5: you are the best player in the world this season.

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Speaker 5: You know, you have to show us something in the

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Speaker 5: postseason as well, Right, Like all those guys you mentioned,

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Speaker 5: Yolkish hasn't even gone to the finals, you know what

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Speaker 5: he'd had those postseasons where he go nuts and he

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Speaker 5: it's never been just a regular season award. We have

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Speaker 5: always evaluated it on. Basketball is the one sport where

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Speaker 5: one player can influence, you know, the outcome more than

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Speaker 5: any other sport. If you are truly the most valuable

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Speaker 5: player in the world, the best player in the world,

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Speaker 5: you're going to have to show that shit in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: And you talk about the difference between how Yokich is

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Speaker 2: people talk shit on Braun losing in the finals. Jokic

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Speaker 2: hasn't been good enough to do it. He hasn't been

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Speaker 2: good enough to do it once to losing the finals ones.

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Speaker 2: And I remember when bron got that fourth MVP in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Derrek Rosse checked all those boxes where

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Speaker 2: Had intended on not jumping into MVP discourse, but watching

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Speaker 6: How old are the people that are telling you you're ludicrous?

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Speaker 4: We can't give it to him three years in a row.

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Speaker 5: I'm fine with us not making the same mistakes in

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Speaker 6: Don't talk about you know what's happened in the past. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Not get you Yeah yo yo says they're phenomenal, and I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So let me So here's what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 6: Jump fuck robust?

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Speaker 5: You use a robust to describe anything besides like a

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Speaker 4: Mike, I already stopped listening, Dog, I accident like, but

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Speaker 1: This is interesting, whether whether or not.

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Speaker 2: embrace that is like, no, this has really shown me

438
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Speaker 2: the things to improve that would never have occurred to me.

439
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Speaker 2: And I know that there's guys like I've heard Bron

440
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 2: talk about analytics. He's like, absolutely when I found out

441
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: what my you know, where my most efficient shots are

442
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 2: and where my least efficient shots are, He's absolutely incorporated that.

443
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Speaker 4: Right, So there is a balance on yes, yes, but

444
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Speaker 4: that is that is that is easily like something I mean,

445
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 4: I think that's something that you all kind of can

446
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 4: see how that can help you, right yeah, Like like,

447
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 4: but this doesn't like this is something that Bron could

448
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 4: say or any player you know me and you could

449
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 4: go out and be like, I shoot better from this spot.

450
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 4: This is the spot, Like you know, we see players

451
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 4: playing like that all the time. Like you know what

452
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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like what we said about say how good

453
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Speaker 4: he is is like say, isn't like I got it?

454
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Speaker 6: He has have the craziest bag, you know what I'm saying.

455
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 4: But it's like he knows his spots and he knows

456
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 4: how to get to them, and you can't keep away

457
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 4: fro getting to his spots. He makes the basket, He

458
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 4: makes the game much easier on himself by going to

459
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Speaker 4: those spots.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, but what in this sense like raptor continue?

461
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Speaker 4: But I don't think like this is something that you

462
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Speaker 4: can really put into place as a as like a

463
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Speaker 4: basketball player to make yourself better, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean. No, this is purely reactive for sure,

465
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Speaker 2: because it's purely like a measure of Okay, how many

466
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Speaker 2: words would you guess are in the methodology post named

467
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Speaker 2: Silver wrote.

468
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Speaker 1: About his metric two thousand of the motherfucker.

469
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Speaker 2: Dog, No way, no way see his I mean, look, I.

470
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Speaker 1: Love advanced stats, right.

471
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Speaker 5: I think that that oftentimes they show you shit that

472
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Speaker 5: you might not have seen, or they highlight shit that

473
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Speaker 5: you you saw, and you're like, wow, okay, yeah you

474
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Speaker 5: connected some doubts from me there right, Like, for instance,

475
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Speaker 5: this whole conversation started because I think John posted like

476
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Speaker 5: there was an under twenty five best in the League

477
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Speaker 5: raptor list. Yeah, and Tatum was eighth on the list,

478
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Speaker 5: right right, and and and lu Luca was number one.

479
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah that I get there.

480
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: And then I think yeah, and then I think Jaron

481
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: Jackson was second, right, and I'm like, I'm for this SGA.

482
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Speaker 4: Fifth is Darius six, is Isaiah Joe above Tatum, Tyrees

483
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Speaker 4: Halliburton great player?

484
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Speaker 6: Then Jason Tatum. Yeah, LORI marking the tre that's the

485
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Speaker 6: So you got to take the ship with a grain

486
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Speaker 6: of salt.

487
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Speaker 5: You gotta know when to kind of, you know, be

488
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Speaker 5: you know, be a bit skeptical about shit because you know,

489
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Speaker 5: like you mentioned my in the definition, they said that

490
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Speaker 5: this factors and shit that doesn't show up in the

491
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Speaker 5: box score, and and and Jared Jackson, He's for sure

492
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Speaker 5: the doesn't show up in the box score guy, Right,

493
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Speaker 5: So I can see how he how this this this

494
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 5: altorim the has in place so high. But he's not, Bro,

495
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Speaker 5: He's not the second best under twenty five guy in

496
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Speaker 5: the league. No, no way, in hell, and I love

497
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Speaker 5: the triple j He's phenomenal, Like pushing up second episode straight,

498
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Speaker 5: I'm defending its honor after that has been besmirched by

499
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Speaker 5: the All Star Game and by Raptor metrics.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, man, so here's the and so, like I said,

501
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Speaker 2: the biggest thing is like spacing and everything else. In fact,

502
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Speaker 2: see what Jackson said.

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Speaker 4: Though, you see what Jackson said, Alix Caruso has the

504
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Speaker 4: twelfth best raptor this season.

505
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Speaker 6: Alx Caruso.

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Speaker 2: So that's how the metric we need that. It's not

507
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Speaker 2: tagic we need. That's actually it's actually not true. It's

508
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Speaker 2: the twelfth best defensive raptor. I think I'm looking at

509
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Speaker 2: the raptor right now. Total, I'm looking at the list

510
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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Raptor Fight, Raptor.

512
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Speaker 2: Fight number one defense.

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Speaker 4: He's he's telling you the analytic we need and like

514
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Speaker 4: defensive efficiency things like that. I love that shit, bro.

515
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: It makes a much sense. It's important to know that, dog.

516
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Speaker 4: I don't need to know.

517
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Speaker 2: I don't need.

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Speaker 4: Anything that has alx Caruso number one. Jaiya is Zoe

519
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Speaker 4: above Jason Tatum. That's not that's not a that's not

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Speaker 4: a Raptor on the You know what I'm saying, that's

521
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Speaker 4: not an analytic that's necessary for me list.

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Speaker 2: The list I'm looking at has Alex Caruso number thirty five.

523
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Speaker 2: But to give you a sense of why the analytics

524
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Speaker 2: people are making the arguments about Yokich that they are,

525
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Speaker 2: Jokich's raptor is a plus fourteen point three. No one

526
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: else is in double digit raptor. It's Luca and then

527
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Speaker 2: Joel Embiid and then Dame and then Shay is number five.

528
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Speaker 1: Bro, that makes sense.

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Speaker 6: I'm just not I'm not with it, dog.

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Speaker 2: Like Jackson Wade. Jackson's right, fuck two, there's two even

531
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Speaker 2: within raptor.

532
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Speaker 1: It's confusing.

533
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Speaker 6: There's total raptor and then there's raptor wins above replacement.

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Speaker 2: I know, I was looking at the fucking I was

535
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Speaker 2: looking at there. I was looking at the Raptor award Jackson.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, so wins exactly?

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Speaker 4: So when's the above replacement mean that when he's not playing,

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Speaker 4: like when he's playing, he's like, there, the team is

539
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: that much better?

540
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Speaker 2: Like no team is? No? No, what wins above replacement means?

541
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Speaker 2: And it actually comes from baseball And I would add,

542
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: by the way, like I'm a sports writer. I like math.

543
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Speaker 2: I'm interested. I'm also like Tyler, I'm very interested in

544
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Speaker 2: advanced analytics. I just think that it's a tool, not

545
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Speaker 2: a worldview. That's the way that I feel about analytics.

546
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Speaker 2: But Whin's above replacement, I think it is a really

547
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Speaker 2: interesting concept. The idea is, if you were to take

548
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Speaker 2: an average baseball player and put him into a baseball team,

549
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Speaker 2: then replace him with Mookie Bets, how many more games

550
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Speaker 2: does Mookie Bets win you than that replacement player that play.

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Speaker 4: So it's not like it doesn't matter like how the

552
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Speaker 4: bad the team is when he's not playing, That has

553
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Speaker 4: nothing to do with it, right, is just like okay, okay, so.

554
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Speaker 7: And so so.

555
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Speaker 2: One of the things that's interesting about it. And as

556
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Speaker 2: AI and quantum math become like more and more mainstream,

557
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna start to get equations that maybe can accurate

558
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: like the challenges of these things are that, of course,

559
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: no mathematic equation can actually tell you how many more

560
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Speaker 2: wins Mookie Bets or Shay are giving you that.

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Speaker 6: In a regular average basketball.

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Speaker 2: And they're also they're also reactive stats because if the

563
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Speaker 2: entire NBA gets more efficient, then the replacement player is better? Right,

564
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: so like you know what I mean? So like the

565
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: so they're they're not tied to a specific objective starting point.

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Speaker 2: But Jackson was right. I was looking at the Raptor

567
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Speaker 2: war the total Raptor Jokic is still number one at

568
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Speaker 2: fourteen point three. No one else is over nine point zero.

569
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Speaker 2: But Alex Caruso is number twelve, tied with Jimmy Butler

570
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Speaker 2: at plus five point five. Here's an even better status.

571
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: Who the player who's one spot below our crew? So

572
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: it's who Lebron James? This is what I'm saying. This

573
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So like we're using something that rates Caruso over Lebron

575
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: James to you know, like I just don't think that's bro.

576
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 4: That's that we've gone too far. That's a step too far.

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00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: You got to real that motherfuck in bro, it ain't

578
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Speaker 4: in bro, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: This is this is kind of how I kind of

580
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Speaker 1: view advanced. That's like Raptor is.

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00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 5: I feel like it's it's kind of like NBA GPS, right,

582
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 5: Like there's times when your GPS holds you down, You're like,

583
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: oh yeah that's great, Yeah, you got me to where

584
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: I needed to be. There's other times, you know, you

585
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 5: pucked that shit in and it's like, bro, hell, no,

586
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 5: you are taking me fifteen minutes out the way, sending

587
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 5: me through a toe. Just show me how to get

588
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: on an interstate and I'll take it from there, you

589
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But like, I feel like that's

590
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 5: kind of how you have to, you know, approach advancedtats

591
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: and fucking Caruso number twelve. That is your GPS telling you,

592
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 5: you know, to go fifteen minutes out the way and

593
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 5: pay eight dollars to when you don't need to.

594
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: Bro hell, get on the free get off two stops

595
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: later to get back on the same street you're on.

596
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: That's the that's the Caruso raptor.

597
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 4: But with that same stat, we saw Jason Tatum play

598
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: so low too, So there's there's there's a there's there's

599
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: obviously a blind spot in that stat that needs to

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Speaker 4: be fixed, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: So we shouldn't be using that, especially not no mother

602
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Speaker 6: fucking m VP race.

603
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: So I'm saying, so here's here's my worldview. There's the image.

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00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 6: Now, at least they fixed that blind spot.

605
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: Right, I think it's the best meme graphic in sports discourse,

606
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: the you know, the the I hate describing memes, but

607
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: it's the the guy on the bus who's looking out

608
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Speaker 2: the window to the right and he's looking at the

609
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Speaker 2: cliff and he's miserable, and that's advanced analytics. And then

610
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: the guy looking out the window to the left of

611
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Speaker 2: the beautiful view and he's got that good dog in

612
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: him watcher, right, he's just watching the game, watching so here.

613
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: So here's my here's my worldview. Nobody sits in the

614
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: same spot on the bus right every time that like,

615
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: you look at the side that has a better view.

616
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: And so sometimes the better view is the advanced analytics.

617
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're explaining to you, I'm interested in the arguments

618
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: about why Jokich is so much more efficient and valuable

619
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: than other players. I'm interested in that. But sometimes it's

620
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: telling you that you should buy a ticket when Alex

621
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: Caruso is in town and not when Lebron James is

622
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: in town and you're looking out the wrong window right

623
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: like that, that's the time to go look at and

624
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: be the you got that dog in a n BEHA viewer.

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Speaker 6: I just I'm hardly ever, I think important like motherfucker.

626
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 6: I'm a fucking nerd.

627
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: I went to school for math, you know what I'm saying, Like,

628
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: but I just I think it's it's really hard for

629
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Speaker 4: me to just to say that the better view is

630
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Speaker 4: ever analytics than just watching the bat fucking basketball game.

631
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, I just I just

632
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 6: it's just I don't know. Maybe I am a fucking

633
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 6: maybe maybe I am bag twitter unknowingly, you know.

634
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: But but I think what I would just add is

635
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: like I don't think there's anything wrong with that, like

636
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: the like and I've just seen people make this argument

637
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: with with Kirk Goldsberry, like this is not homework. It

638
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: is a it's a TV show, right, Like it's meant

639
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: to be something that's entertaining some people are entertained by.

640
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm a tyler on that. I'm interested in

641
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: the statistical analysis of why, Like I'm interested in that,

642
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: but it's not what I'm thinking about when I'm watching

643
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: a basketball game.

644
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 6: I've always I've never been anti analytics.

645
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: That's the first fucking no advanced analytic of ever since y'all,

646
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: Like what the fuck? You know what I'm saying when

647
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: generally talking about I think they're interesting.

648
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

649
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: I gotta shot out do this called stats only where

650
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: we look at all analytics. You know what I'm saying,

651
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: And it's interesting. Bro, I think this one in particular

652
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Speaker 4: is a step too far, you know, at least the

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Speaker 4: way that it applies to some of these specific plays.

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Speaker 2: They're good, Bro, We have like they're multiple.

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Speaker 4: We pointed out multiple fucking issues in fucking the four

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Speaker 4: seconds we looked at this motherfucker. He wrote thirty five

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Speaker 4: hundred fucking words on this motherfucker for bron to be

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Speaker 4: worse than so and Jason Tatum to be night in

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Speaker 4: under twenty four.

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Speaker 8: You get the fuck out of here, Bro, start from scratch,

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Speaker 8: burn this bitch down. I'm not fucking with a dog,

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean? Starovog All right, uh question.

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Speaker 8: This is coming from the favorites. One of our volume teammates,

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Speaker 8: our Gusher's candy.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think fruit snacks of candy. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so either their own category.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're unanimous. There are related but distinct

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Speaker 2: subgroup of food.

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Speaker 1: They're they're in the not true candy genus or whatever.

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Speaker 2: If you were to describe. If you were to describe

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Speaker 2: how they were made, it would sound like you were

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Speaker 2: talking about candy. But they're not candy. And I agree

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Speaker 2: with John, they's somewhere between food and candy. Is that either'

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Speaker 2: not food?

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Speaker 6: But they're more food than candy, is you know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying?

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Speaker 4: Like candies on the you know a little further down

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Speaker 4: than not food spectrum, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So, all right, question, is a hamburger a sandwich?

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Speaker 6: No, it's a hamburger, but technically because.

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Speaker 1: I think it's similar like candy versus not candy debate,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: No, I feel similarly about the hot dog and hamburger

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Speaker 2: being a sandwich as I do. Like I am to

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Speaker 2: those arguments with John is to advance analytics like and

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Speaker 2: it's like every time people are like, well, why is

687
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Speaker 2: it a hot dog a sandwiches? Because it's a fucking

688
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Speaker 2: hot dog. I don't know. I'm a rat versus squirrel, not.

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Speaker 1: That advanced analytics.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say that, bro with advanced analytics

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Speaker 6: is just this one in particular.

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Speaker 2: But Bro Tyler, let's go get a sandwich. You would

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Speaker 2: respond to me, how about Yes, I would like a

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Speaker 2: sandwich in the form of a cheeseburger.

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Speaker 5: I know, I think that a burger is its own thing,

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Speaker 5: but I also think it's in the sandwich Fani. Technically,

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Speaker 5: I think it's a sandwich. Technically it's a sandwich, I think,

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Speaker 5: but I'm never if you call a burger a sandwich,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to.

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Speaker 6: Call you a psycho.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: If you're like, let's look at a sandwich and then

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Speaker 4: pull up to a burner, spot out, bitch, you said sandwich, Okay, nigga,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about like, bro. The purpose of communication is understanding, Nigga.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna think think of a hamburger if you say sandwich.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: So like, that's my purpose. That's why where I'm at

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Speaker 6: with it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's a sandwich technically, but don't call it a

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Speaker 4: sandwich unless you're crazy, unless you want people to think

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Speaker 4: you're crazy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I'm trying to think. Are there any

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Speaker 2: other sandwiches that you would classify as a sandwich that

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Speaker 2: have ground meat in them?

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Speaker 1: Distinction is a patty, for example, a chicken burger versus

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Speaker 1: a chicken sandwich. A chicken burger is ground chicken that's

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Speaker 1: made into a patty form.

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Speaker 2: Right, But yeah, but sandwiches chicken.

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Speaker 4: But like, technically it's meat did vegetables in between bread,

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Speaker 4: which I think is what qualifies it as a sandwich.

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Speaker 2: But when people say that is you could put my

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Speaker 2: cat with vegetables on it and a piece of bread

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Speaker 2: on either side, and that would be bread, meat, lettuce,

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Speaker 2: nigga bread.

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Speaker 6: Right, cannot put that motherfucking call it a sandwich.

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Speaker 2: But I'm but but no, But I'm just saying the

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Speaker 2: way the meat is prepared and presented is part of

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Speaker 2: the is part of the I don't.

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Speaker 5: Think that just because it's ground, it's not a sandwich anymore.

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Speaker 5: Because you say a meatball sub is not a sandwich.

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Speaker 2: I would say it's a sub. I've never referred to

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Speaker 2: a meatball sub as a meatball sandwich. What is a sub?

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Speaker 1: Though it's a sub? I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: fuck with the moukab? If you've been on social media

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Speaker 2: for the last couple of weeks, you've probably been blasted

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Speaker 2: in the face on one platform or another by the

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Speaker 2: sponsored ad for this new mega mall slash hotel that

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Speaker 2: they're building in Saudi Arabia. Is it's a big gold

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Speaker 2: cube in the middle of the desert. It will be

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Speaker 2: fully climate controlled inside and big enough to hold twenty

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Speaker 2: Empire state buildings. My first question is by twenty why

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Speaker 2: not twenty five? Why not twenty three. Why why not?

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Speaker 6: Like five nigga, you don't need anything bigger.

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Speaker 2: Than that head, bro. So So, first of all, if

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Speaker 2: you haven't seen the video, I'm not gonna encourage you

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Speaker 2: to go look at Saudi Arabia's sponsored content on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: But I'm assuming that most people seen video about the cop. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: I sent you guys a video earlier today. What was

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Speaker 2: your reaction to see, bro?

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Speaker 5: Like I said, it looks like a clip that someone

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Speaker 5: in a in a movie about the future would watch, Like,

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Speaker 5: it looks like a clip that they would show stakeholders

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Speaker 5: in a board meeting in RoboCop.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, that's what that shit

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Speaker 1: looked like.

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Speaker 5: It looked it looked like, you know, very futuristic and

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00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 5: look like some shit I want no parts of because,

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00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 5: for one, like I've told you that, like once I

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00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: saw like those those fucking ten foot tall holograms just

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Speaker 5: popping up out of hour, I was like, Nah, y'all

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Speaker 5: can keep that shit, bro. My nerves are way too

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00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 5: My nerves are way too bad to get popped the

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Speaker 5: ball by a fucking twenty foot hologram when I'm just

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Speaker 5: trying to, you know, say eat a fucking corn dog.

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Speaker 1: Hell no, I want no part of that shit. Dog.

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Speaker 4: I in general do not like malls, okay, like period,

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Speaker 4: They're just too big, there's too much going on. As

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Speaker 4: I was telling y'all, like nigga, like, it's already hard

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Speaker 4: for me to find Auntie Anne's you know what I'm saying,

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00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: and that motherfucker in a regular mall, one that had

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Speaker 4: the size of twenty twenty. Fuck, well, come on, bro,

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00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: like Empire segments, I don't need that shit. And then

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Speaker 4: like doll like it's just to me, it's futuristic in

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Speaker 4: a way that is impossible to like, it's impossible for

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Speaker 4: what they create to live up to what they showed

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Speaker 4: us at this in this day and time, they had

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Speaker 4: like cars hovering over like fake you know over like

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Speaker 4: you know, highways and shit and dry.

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Speaker 2: That's what the fuck we don't where does that exist?

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Speaker 6: Where we even seeing anything close to that? Nigga.

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Speaker 4: Also, they use the word leisure. That makes me think

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Speaker 4: it's they said leisure that makes me because they're trying

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00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: to get over on me. That ship that somebody says

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Speaker 4: when they want you to think they're smart if they're

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Speaker 4: not smart.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like, bro, I don't WoT

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Speaker 2: with it. I think it's a scam.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they can actually create what they have,

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Speaker 4: you know, put in front of us, right, So I'm

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Speaker 4: not I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: I think a lot if they can, a lot of

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Speaker 6: people will like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it'll be great, and you know, and and

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Speaker 1: and it.

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Speaker 4: Will be an amazing feat. I know, personally I will

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Speaker 4: hate it. There's not a place I ever want to visit.

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Speaker 4: It's just too much going on. Yeah, I mean, I

834
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Speaker 4: think it's gonna be phenomenal. It's gonna be a world wonder,

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a smash of success. I think I

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Speaker 4: don't want no parts of that shit though, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you really think they can create what we saw? Though?

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Speaker 6: Is there technology that can create that?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 5: There is twenty twenty three Saudi oil money. Absolutely, yes,

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Speaker 5: they are right that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Saudis spend money in a way that people

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Speaker 2: living with American public infrastructure can really wrap our heads around.

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Speaker 2: I think cars like.

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Speaker 6: We've never seen a car like move like a hovercraft,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: We don't even have hover boards like you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we've been begging for that for fucking thirty years. It's

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Speaker 2: just like the Disneyland. It's just like a sky gondola.

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Speaker 2: You probably just go. They probably just didn't let us.

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Speaker 6: See the kays, the wires and all that shit. They

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Speaker 6: cut that out at a graphic clue.

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Speaker 2: All right. I've been on Twitter for fourteen years and

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Speaker 2: I have learned very few useful things. But I have

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Speaker 2: learned that when we played in that cold weather, it

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Speaker 2: was cold, a fact that is being disputed on Twitter

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Speaker 2: dot com because I said Southern California has its coldest

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Speaker 2: storm of the year coming over the next week and

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Speaker 2: put up a screenshot that showed it is going to

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Speaker 2: be in the low fifties with rainstorms, and Twitter made

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Speaker 2: fun of me and called me a pussy basically. And

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Speaker 2: I just want to say this, having experienced both. The

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Speaker 2: fifty degrees in southern California is colder than ten degrees

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Speaker 2: in most places. And John Bett, no, John, don't shake

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Speaker 2: your head. I need you to be going down to ten.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: Colder than thirty degrees.

868
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'll say that, I'll say that. I'll say that. Yeah,

869
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 6: it does feel colder.

870
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 4: But the thing is, though, nigga, Like, I went to

871
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: Chicago this weekend, right, it was twenty seven degrees.

872
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: I stepped out.

873
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: It was cold.

874
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 6: I was like, damn as cold as fuck.

875
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: It was cold as fuck, right, but I didn't have

876
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: the clothes to wear in that type of cold. We

877
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: dress differently here, you know what I'm saying. So if

878
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 4: we were to dress in the way that people dress

879
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 4: in Chicago, it wouldn't be cold to us, you know

880
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: what I mean.

881
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 6: But if people in Chicago would have dressed the way

882
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 6: we dressed, it would be cold.

883
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: For instance, it was fifty degrees forty some degrees more thing,

884
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: forty forty degrees this morning. I walked outside in the

885
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: hoodie and shorts, emptied the trash, came back in.

886
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 6: It was cold, you know what I mean.

887
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: But it's cold to anybody that dresses that way in

888
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: that type of weather. So we don't dress this the

889
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: way they do. That's why his cold does Because I

890
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 4: went to Chicago this weekend and it was cold, but

891
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: it wasn't like unbearable. We was out walking outside and

892
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: shit on some whatever shit you feel me? And I

893
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 4: am a admitted pussy now when it comes to cold weather.

894
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: You know, that's what La has done to me.

895
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

896
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: It's just we just know, you know what I'm saying.

897
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: We dressed, they be layered up. They still wearing long Johns.

898
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: I forgot what long John's. I don't know where you

899
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: get them in Target now, I don't know what you.

900
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: Gotta order them more fuers Amazon. They still know me.

901
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: I forgot how to dress for cold weather. That's why

902
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: cold weather here when it's forty degrees be.

903
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 6: Beat my ass, you know what I mean. So that's

904
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 6: my logical, That's why I think about it.

905
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: But go ahead, bro.

906
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 5: We have had a little sixty five seventy degree heat

907
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 5: streak this last fucking week, and the whole fucking city

908
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: has come alive.

909
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: Like y'all.

910
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: I don't think y'all know how good y'all have it, bro,

911
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 5: like real shit, like like cities that actually do experience winter,

912
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 5: those cities died during that time.

913
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: I know I know how good. I know how good

914
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: we have it. Yeah, I would pick the over that

915
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: hell is. I'm just saying, like, because we have it good,

916
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: we aren't prepared.

917
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: For what explained to me?

918
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: What do you mean in the city die. It's like.

919
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 5: People house out. Yeah no, people don't leave the fucking

920
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 5: the night scene is dead. The bar is a fucking

921
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: empty like the streamne sleep during the rider, bro.

922
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: Like nobody's at the park for six months.

923
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: Hell St Louis no, nigga, you don't. You go from

924
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: your car to to you to work, back to your

925
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 4: car to like to home like you might. You You

926
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: nobody's out walking enjoying the weather. There's nothing to enjoy, bro.

927
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's hell.

928
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 6: It's how opposite hell.

929
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, But like.

930
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 6: It's hell figuratively. You feel me like cold, it's cold.

931
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 4: Cold, bro, So like no, she ain't popping, nah gee, no, no,

932
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 4: she ain't popping, bro, Like he's the streets. It's it's

933
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 4: just how the leaves fall off the trees when it's cold.

934
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 4: That's what the city feel like. City feels like, you know,

935
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 4: and when it gets warm, it feels like spring again.

936
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: Niggas start coming out. You start seeing humans exist outside.

937
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 6: The buildings, dog Bro. Yeah ship, yeah, the city dies.

938
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 7: You ain't never You ain't never even imagine that people

939
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 7: not outside in parks, that that happens. No, Bro, motherfuckers

940
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 7: do not leave their house when it's cold.

941
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: Bro.

942
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: That called be beating your ass, nigga is sometimes your

943
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: car don't even want to start because it's cold.

944
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: Not because that, but I've heard of that, right, But

945
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: like I assume it's like you said, it's like, but

946
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: you're you, You're expecting that to some extent if you

947
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: live in a place where your ship freezes, right, like

948
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: your pipes. That happened that house. In the houses too, right,

949
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: the pipes freeze or something sometimes, you know.

950
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: Like if it's getting super super super cold, Yeah, keep

951
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: it little, keep it, yeah, keep that's sometimes.

952
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, so I'm a pussy. That's basically

953
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm a pussy too, though, And I think we all pussies. Bro.

954
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 6: Nobody nobody likes cold.

955
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: People that let me call places always complaining about it.

956
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: Nobody like that ship.

957
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: No one likes that.

958
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, nobody like that ship. We all hate that. People

959
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 9: We shoul me living like that. Don't blame us you

960
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 9: living like that. It ain't my fault. You're in the project,

961
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 9: all right. Before we get out of here, we've got

962
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 9: I thought, but we just talked about music for a

963
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 9: couple of minutes. John and I are in We're in negotiations.

964
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 9: We're not really in negotiations to start our new podcast,

965
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 9: Jazz Boys.

966
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm excited.

967
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: I told y'all, I told y'all before the pot how

968
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 4: I'm approaching life differently, right, you know what I'm saying

969
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 4: as far as like, you know, I'm not I'm I'm

970
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 4: a I'm a the the the joy is in the journey, ass, nigga.

971
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, the beauty is in

972
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 6: the journey.

973
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to enjoy every part of my my

974
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 4: day and ship, and jazz has definitely helped me with that, Nigga, Like, bro,

975
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: And you know I played jazz in the morning for

976
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: Sonny Baby.

977
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 6: You feel me, she'd be out here, you know, doing

978
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 6: a little.

979
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

980
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 6: But yeah, nigga, that's that's my whole it, Bro, that's

981
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 6: my whole ship.

982
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: What's the name of the guy who has the album

983
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: that you.

984
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: You're talking about, The White Man? That my Mathew, the

985
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: white Man, The white Man, Matthew Matthew haws halto Matthew

986
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 3: trumpetess Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.

987
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: Specifically, the album is the setting of my love and

988
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 2: usually I'm I feel like I'm I was. I feel

989
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: like I was the podcast president jazz Boy. But I've

990
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: been stuck by that album since you said it.

991
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: This great Adrian sent me that joint and then he

992
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: had bought the album and he bought this other album

993
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: Suitch you color.

994
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 6: Yes it's spelled oh you because I guess he's from

995
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 6: Canada anyway. That makes me think, second, I shouldn't have

996
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 6: maybe pree promoters, but no.

997
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: It's cold.

998
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 4: But yeah, he was playing at the at the Crib

999
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: when I was at the Cribinum this weekend, and I

1000
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: was like, I gotta tap it in this.

1001
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 6: I'm like he got a whole bunch of fire ship,

1002
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 6: you know what I mean?

1003
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, bro, we were moving different.

1004
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 4: It would be crazy if I was still dropping the

1005
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 4: music in between like my you could you could see

1006
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 4: that I am.

1007
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: Older based on the music I would put in between

1008
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: the you know what I'm saying, the right if you

1009
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: just found a systems of Chosman on the volume. John

1010
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: used to put John what used to be the DJ

1011
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: in the SoundCloud days Patreon days, and just put he

1012
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: was spliced music in between the segments, which we can't

1013
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: do now because it's illegal, but uh, I couldn't do either,

1014
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: but but it was it was more legal when less people.

1015
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: Were yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just you know,

1016
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: and we weren't getting paid, you know what I mean?

1017
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah right, uh And then before we get

1018
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: out of here, Tyler, you had a really interesting conversation

1019
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: going to the group chat. I know, the is it

1020
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: is it that DLA Soul is now going to be

1021
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 2: streaming for the first time? Is that what's our current?

1022
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1023
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, March third, their whole catalog is dropping. It's

1024
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: something that we known for months, you know. It's it's

1025
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 5: like when we had that discussion, you know about the

1026
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 5: iPods and ship, like like you know, when I got

1027
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 5: the tragedy news that day passed on into my iPod

1028
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 5: because you can't stream that shit anywhere, but I had

1029
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: their whole catog on my iPods. So so yeah, So,

1030
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 5: people who aren't familiar with Day Lost Soul, Man March

1031
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 5: third tap in one of the best desographies and rap

1032
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 5: one of the most fun desographies in rap. If you're

1033
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 5: not familiar with Day Lost Soul. They were very artistic

1034
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: with their ship, put a lot of humor in that ship,

1035
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 5: and they could flat out rap and make good music.

1036
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 5: It's a really fun ride, and I employ everyone, you know,

1037
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 5: fans and people who want to get you know, familiarized

1038
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 5: of like to just tap in on March third.

1039
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm tapping in for sure because I I

1040
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: definitely missed the Daila Soul Train.

1041
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: M hmm.

1042
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: But I missed it in part because my high school.

1043
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: My high school's biggest rival was Dayla Salle High School,

1044
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: And so I think somewhere subconsciously I heard I was like.

1045
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: Just too much for real dog, you know what I mean.

1046
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 10: It's too close to the ops, too much of the idiot. Yeah,

1047
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 10: too much of the idiot. No, but I'll definitely be

1048
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 10: playing that for someny baby. You know I told you

1049
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 10: That's why we were talking about it, because I wanted to.

1050
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 10: I've been playing like some like the old school Ship

1051
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 10: for saw Me and whatnot?

1052
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 6: Did you this I got? Did you hear I was

1053
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 6: playing pm Don? I did some research?

1054
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: Did you hear about pm don? Like when Karas won't

1055
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 5: beat the ass or no, no that happened? Yeah, yeah,

1056
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But I think, uh, the

1057
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 5: like like like when they went real weird into like

1058
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 5: the Christian rock ship or the.

1059
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 6: Brown the Brown, like the what the heavy set dude

1060
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 6: is one dude then the other dude? Not that other dude.

1061
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 6: It's hardy was like a there's something about him being

1062
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 6: like a he was on his carb alone ship.

1063
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: I know.

1064
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I can't even run that no more, Like

1065
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 6: damn wasn't nobody worth it? Damn ship?

1066
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: All right?

1067
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, was that?

1068
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: Was that?

1069
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: Right? Was that a dumb episode?

1070
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 6: I think I feel like.

1071
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: Arguing about Tyler being I would have late seventeen years ago.

1072
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: I think it reached peak stupidity right there, and we

1073
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: kind of gotta kind of close.

1074
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: It dropped a little bit. But that was the dumbest

1075
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: thing I think that happened. Yeah.

1076
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: I had a nice, a nice little raptor fight.

1077
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 10: War right.

1078
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I hope it was dumb enough to

1079
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: help get you through the rest of your week. I

1080
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: hope you have a very dumb weekend. And we'll see

1081
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: y'all on Monday. Bye bye bye