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Speaker 1: Full Circle is an iheartwoman's sports production and partnership with

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Full

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Speaker 2: Circle Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm Lexi Brown here with my girl Mariah.

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Speaker 2: Rose, and we have a very special guest today. I

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Speaker 2: say this about all our guests that they don't need

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Speaker 2: an introduction and then proceed to list out their incredible resumes.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just going to keep it short and sweet.

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Speaker 2: We have the Natesmith Player of the Year, former National

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Speaker 2: Freshman of the Year twenty eighteen, third overall pick twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: All WBA Second Team player, and All Star twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: one WNBA champ, and one of my best friends in

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Speaker 2: the entire world since we've been little babies. I would

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Speaker 2: love to welcome Dive into Shields to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Clap it Up, Clap it up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, you gotta say that. You gotta say that

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Speaker 4: a little bit louder because people like to forget, you

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Speaker 4: sure do. People like to forget to forget.

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Speaker 3: That's why I had to include all of the things. Diamond,

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Speaker 3: Oh my.

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Speaker 5: Gosh, Oh my gosh, look at us. I'm all right.

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Speaker 3: Are you feel like a third wheel already? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, no, like I feel like i'm watching, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm in the audience.

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Speaker 3: Diamond, welcome.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I just I just would like to acknowledge over fifteen

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Speaker 4: years of friendship. You know, can't too many people stand

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Speaker 4: on that like that. And I'm just really grateful to

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Speaker 4: be here part of your podcasting career and journey, and

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Speaker 4: you know, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy that you're here.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into all things Diamond, we got to

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Speaker 2: talk about the games over the weekend. So, Diamond, what

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Speaker 2: if your thoughts been about the tournament so far?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the tournament has been dope.

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Speaker 5: You know. I think that there have been some really really.

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Speaker 4: Good games, Whereas I think that like when we were

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Speaker 4: in college, it was like a lot of blowouts, you know,

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Speaker 4: probably until around the early eight So it's been good

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Speaker 4: to see all the ladies out there competing, all the

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Speaker 4: ladies out there really standing on business, like the platform

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Speaker 4: is here and they have continued to deliver on having

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Speaker 4: that platform. I've just really appreciated seeing such a good

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Speaker 4: product be put out each and every night.

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Speaker 5: It's been cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this weekend's games where I was on the edge

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Speaker 3: Now Duke moment of silence.

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Speaker 5: So close.

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Speaker 2: But I told you all the score was going to

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Speaker 2: be mad low, Like I told you that was gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: But I just may be locking up.

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Speaker 5: I mean that defense beyond point they just.

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Speaker 2: Like when you play all that defense and you don't

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Speaker 2: want to go school like I just I'm just not understanding,

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Speaker 2: like the life of capitalizing.

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Speaker 3: Off of all the stops that they get.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing that's been frustrating to me about

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's been doing a great job, but like their.

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Speaker 2: Inability to like score the ball consistently has been like

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Speaker 2: so frustrating for me. And I hope that they can

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Speaker 2: fix that because they got this close. They got the

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Speaker 3: No they don't. They really who.

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Speaker 2: How many Let's talk about it, because how many teams

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Speaker 2: really got snipers on there?

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Speaker 3: Like, let's let's think about it.

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Speaker 4: Girl carrying, Okay, she's carrying. In terms of I was

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Speaker 4: gonna say, shame bro.

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Speaker 1: I feel like at the end there Duke was handing

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Speaker 1: it away I felt like they were missing costly shots.

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Speaker 1: I felt like the turnovers were crazy. I was getting upsid,

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Speaker 1: like they will get the stop and then do nothing exactly.

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Speaker 1: It was so frustrated.

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Speaker 3: Fel the same way.

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Speaker 2: And I just and that's not just a duke saying

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Speaker 2: I've been locked into the tournament and these are the

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Speaker 2: best teams in the country that make the tournament. And

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Speaker 2: it's like the lack of of shot creating the lack

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Speaker 2: the lack of consistent the lack of shooting period. Like Texas.

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Speaker 2: I think they shot five threes last game. And I

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Speaker 2: know everyone's been compleating, oh too many threes, too many threes,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they made it this far, so you can't

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Speaker 2: when you get to the next level, shooting is so vital,

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Speaker 2: it's so important, and it's going to keep you employed

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Speaker 2: because every team needs a shooter. And I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: I just feel like it's not nobody that we're like

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Speaker 4: after a timeout, you like make sure you got her

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Speaker 4: they're fin a runner off a stagger, or you know

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Speaker 3: It's like, so whatnot?

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Speaker 5: Please?

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Speaker 6: Do y'all feel like that?

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Speaker 1: Do y'all feel like it's because of a lack of

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Speaker 3: I think it's a combination.

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Speaker 2: Well, just you have good defense, the scores, they gonna

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Speaker 2: find a way to score. They gonna find a way

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Speaker 2: to get their shot off. And maybe we got too

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Speaker 2: comfortable watching like the Caitlin Clarks and the Ariquez players.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't even shoot that many threes when

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Speaker 2: three players that gonna hit like a ton of threes

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Speaker 3: And we don't have that right now, And I don't

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Speaker 4: It looks like a I don't know, the releases look slow.

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Speaker 4: Releases just don't look they don't get as quick in

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Speaker 4: order to like be deemed like a pure shooter, like

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Speaker 4: a lot of players have this like gather or this

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Speaker 4: just you can tell when somebody's a shooter pretty much

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Speaker 4: a lot of players that I've seen in college right

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Speaker 2: I would say the last like shooter like that I've

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Speaker 2: played in Athletes Unlimited. And that girl can shoot the ball.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, like brou think about.

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, before we get into that.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say put out there, I'm heartbroken, Cho.

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Speaker 3: I'm heart too. And they but they were even before

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Speaker 3: Ju got hurt.

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Speaker 2: They were not hyping this matchup up like I thought

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Speaker 2: they would have, Like you would have thought that they

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Speaker 2: was on the same team, like the way that they're

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Speaker 2: being like aligned.

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Speaker 3: Together, which I love.

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Speaker 2: But this rivalry that everybody thinks is absent in women's

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Speaker 2: basketball is right there. It was right there, and we

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Speaker 2: decided to not. It wasn't the wasn't the right rivalry.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 1: Like I guess we talked about that, they still had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to market that the same way they marketed

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Angel, bad Girl, good girl, whatever, whatever.

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Speaker 3: I guess looking at.

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Speaker 1: Both Page and Juju, both of them are so cool

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Speaker 1: that it is kind of hard.

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Speaker 3: To pull like.

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Speaker 2: That. We said it last week. Why do we need

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Speaker 2: a villain like that? Men's College don't got a villain

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Speaker 3: They got Cooper Flag and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I wouldn't compare it to that though, because I'm

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Speaker 1: bored out of my mind with that, Like, I like,

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Speaker 1: the game have been great. I was at I can

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Speaker 1: we talk about men As far as the story, tournament

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Speaker 1: is one seed, one seed, one seed, one seed.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 3: Forever.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like only the second time ever, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, that's great. You do want the

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Speaker 2: best teams to make it to the end, obviously, but

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Speaker 2: like that's boring.

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Speaker 3: Cinderella's nothing. It boring.

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Speaker 1: It is boring, and they they thrive off of that because,

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Speaker 1: as I always say, the women's tournament has the advantage

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Speaker 6: Storylines of us seeing them play.

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Speaker 1: Each other for so long that we get hyped up

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Speaker 1: and create these rivalries, whereas the Menu's tournament doesn't have that.

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Speaker 1: So all they really have for us to become obsessed

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Speaker 3: Stories, and there's been a lacking Cooper flag.

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Speaker 4: I always look forward to seeing like Florida Gulf Coast. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that does not happen anymore.

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Speaker 3: Like those days are over. Those days are over.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing freaking transfer portal news already, people committing to

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Speaker 2: new schools already.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Dan, can the tournament end? Don't get me

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Speaker 2: We don't talk about that too. I think me and

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Speaker 2: Diamond are both transfer kids. Okay, So if you guys

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Speaker 2: didn't know, me and Diamond have been friends since the

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Speaker 2: seventh grade and we met playing on an AAU team together.

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Speaker 2: I was still living in Florida, she lived in Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: and the team name was the Georgia Ice. So, Diamond,

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Speaker 2: can you tell the people a little bit about that team?

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Speaker 2: Because because we were iconic and we were only twelve.

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Speaker 4: So the Georgia Ice was a group of rowdy twelve

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Speaker 4: year old girls who were going to come into your

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Speaker 4: fifteen U tournament and win it. Every weekend and by

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Speaker 4: the time people realized what was happening, it had already happened.

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Speaker 4: And we were playing up about two age groups every

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Speaker 4: weekend and we were killing people like calling.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know how to describe it. We had

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Speaker 5: a team. We had five dads on the team who

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Speaker 5: played professional sports. Guys.

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Speaker 3: We were the NEPO kids. We were of a So

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 5: Me my dad.

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Speaker 4: My dad played for thirteen years in MB Lexi's dad

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Speaker 4: played in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Obviously.

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Speaker 4: We had Taran Griffey who was the daughter of King

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Speaker 4: Griffy Junior. We had Kayla Davis who's the daughter of

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Speaker 4: Antonio Davis Painting Witted. His dad played Pro Christina Kevin

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Speaker 4: So we was just like a big We were just

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Speaker 4: big and like athletic and just like we had the

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Speaker 4: flights shoes we had. We had players flying in on

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Speaker 4: a private jet to practice once a week like and

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Speaker 4: were coming in. They were coming in to practice on

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Speaker 4: a PJ.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: I this was like because I've been waiting for years

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Speaker 2: to have this platform with Diamond so we could talk

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Speaker 2: about what the hell we was doing in middle school.

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Speaker 4: Listen, if we had ni L when we was in

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Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was you know Maryland, North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious when you made that decision to go to

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Speaker 3: I don't care what nobody else has to say about it.

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Speaker 4: But I was like, you know, what if I go

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Speaker 5: And the archetype that I was trying to become.

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Speaker 2: oh no, I'm going They had the number one recruiting

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Speaker 5: It was four of us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And after I committed, I called each and every

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Speaker 5: And they all committed the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Basically it was like, yeah, basically the little freshman avengerlus

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Speaker 1: How we didn't it was it was quiet, but all

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Speaker 4: And even then like she was still a little tight

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Speaker 5: We realized we still loved each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a right We had red table talk

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Speaker 5: Is not supposed to have.

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Speaker 5: They have so much to do. So that happened, and

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Speaker 2: So they all left though, guys, the whole class, they

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Speaker 5: You know, we're so excited. Da da da.

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Speaker 4: but there was also just so much excitement that I

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00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 4: had to look forward to for when I could finally

449
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 4: play a year post making that decision, So like I

450
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 4: was good, Like I wasn't really tripping, you know, I

451
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: was in Knoxville. My mom went to UT so I

452
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 4: spent time in Knoxville growing up, Like that was where

453
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 4: I wanted to be at.

454
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 5: So I had just I was just like eyes forward

455
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 5: the whole time.

456
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: And you finally were gonna get to play healthy Yeah exactly.

457
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 4: So it was yeah, like again, it was just a

458
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 4: different time. You know, you had to consider that sit

459
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 4: out year and you had to really say is it.

460
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 5: Gonna be worth it?

461
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 4: And so anybody who transferred during that time, like they

462
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 4: knew that that's what they wanted to do. It was

463
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 4: important for them to find a new home somewhere else.

464
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 4: Who's on the team then Mercedes Russell, Jordan Reynolds, Jamie Nard,

465
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 4: Andrea Carter, but Shard Graves Isabelle Harrison.

466
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 2: That's three WWA players on one team. These are not

467
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: fringe w players. These are like key rotational pieces to

468
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: WNVA teams. And I mean, I don't think people also

469
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: realize that about how different women's college landscape is now,

470
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: Like you're you're not seeing that really on teams anymore.

471
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: You're not seeing.

472
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: Three, four, sometimes five at Yukon because that's what it was.

473
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: WNBA players are on the same team.

474
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And for me, like I feel like it's a

475
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 3: good and about thing.

476
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: So I'm like interested to see how you feel about it, Like, yes,

477
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: like the parody is good, but you also want to

478
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: see like the best players playing with the best players.

479
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, look, like I said, it was just

480
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 4: a different time. We were all trying to be relevant

481
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 4: in conversation and the only way you could do that

482
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 4: was going to those one or two camps in the summer,

483
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: playing in those three or four AU tournaments, and going

484
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 4: to these eight to ten schools. Like it wasn't you

485
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 4: had to go up against the best players to even

486
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: be mentioned in those conversations. So I think there was

487
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 4: a lot more joining of forces because of that, And

488
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: I think that the money and the nil everything kind

489
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 4: of just spread everything out.

490
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 5: So now it's really you just try to get paid.

491
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems I was gonna say, now, it's interesting

492
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: to hear you talk about you being somebody who would

493
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: have definitely capitalized so much off of nil even in

494
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: high school. But hearing now, there's a benefit to being

495
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: the girl on the team.

496
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

497
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: You don't want to join forces and risk not being

498
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: the girl on the team, because then when there is

499
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: time to pick somebody to be in the commercial, they're

500
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 1: looking at her and they're not looking at you.

501
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't.

502
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: Know if I want to team up like that because

503
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: that might hurt my bad.

504
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 6: Plus this little small school over here might pay me this.

505
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: Like the fact that these are the conversations we're having

506
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: about college kids is nuts.

507
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 3: And I knew this was going to happen when the NC.

508
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: DOUBLEA was like here, damn no rules, no regulations, no nothing.

509
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: And I just the world underestimate the power of like

510
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: college athletics, of women athletes, Like I just feel like

511
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: the NC DOUBLEA was like okay, like you're y'all gonna

512
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: fall in y'all's face because y'all gonn't know what to

513
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: do with it. And I think that it's been bigger

514
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: and crazy than they probably was even imagining.

515
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: I would argue if they had anil back then in

516
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: social media and TikTok and everything, because you look at

517
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: the top five most followed athletes in March Madness right now,

518
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: top four women, and the fifth is Cooper Flag and

519
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: he's the most popular player in the men's tournament. So

520
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we honestly probably would be in a

521
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: different space if women were getting marketed the same back then,

522
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: because as you can see, when we are getting marketed,

523
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: which we've gotten to taken our own hands because of

524
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: social media, it works when you look at the way

525
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: that they do their nil deals or the way that

526
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: they do their ads, or the way that they make

527
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: their tiktoks, like y'all's tiktoks at the sleepover when you

528
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: were twelve would have been way more interesting than college

529
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: basketball player going to canes and.

530
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you, I love Kanes. That's literally how

531
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: they here's my canes.

532
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 4: And it's just like we were very marketable, you know.

533
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 4: So it's like, to y'all's point, like a lot of

534
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 4: the deals getting done, it's like take an athlete and

535
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 4: just give them a script and then have them stand

536
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: in front of the sign, and it's just like, where's

537
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 4: the character, where's the personality, where's the desire to want to,

538
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: you know, make this a lasting partnership. I feel like

539
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: for a lot of these kids, it's just coming in

540
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 4: so easily. They're just like, you know, come by this,

541
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: we'll do you know. But there are those other athletes

542
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 4: right like Flage. I mean she making music, she doing

543
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 4: the song, the acting, her own podcast. Yeah, yeah, she

544
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 4: she maximizing. So shout out Flawjack Lexi.

545
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 6: You talk about all the time you were doing the

546
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 6: social media thing.

547
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: In college and the internet, and I was like, no,

548
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: I won't.

549
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 5: How about this. We weren't even allowed to be on

550
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 5: the internet in college. You couldn't be on social media.

551
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 4: And on the road trips they taking that phone, Yeah,

552
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 4: that phone get took after the game.

553
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: Don't lose, don't lose on the road.

554
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: They was hating out the gate. They ain't want y'all

555
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 4: to be nothing other than this.

556
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 5: Across the front.

557
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 2: We couldn't even post pictures in the uniform unless we

558
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: were at like media stuff.

559
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm shocked by this. That is I know it

560
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: was bad girl, and I say it.

561
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: I say it all the time and people are like,

562
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: let's see, shut up. No, it affected everybody, and not

563
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 2: everybody is as vocal about it, obviously, but it didn't

564
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: just affect me.

565
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: I just kept doing it. It was clocking my shit.

566
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: Twenty four to seven, I got pulled in the office

567
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: to like take pictures down, like, oh my.

568
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: God, like they was on that yeah, and it's are

569
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 3: you tweeting? At midnight?

570
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: I had a compliance meeting for my senior pictures. It

571
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 4: was like, are you modeling? Are you getting paid?

572
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 5: Y'all? Those are my.

573
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 3: Clients, bro.

574
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: They were like enemy number one, like just clocking you,

575
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: Like I don't think you guys understand. Like when we

576
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: talk at this NIO stuff, not only could we not

577
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: get money for things, we couldn't even get things period.

578
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: Like if a brand wanted to send us some clothes

579
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: or something, no violation.

580
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 5: You could be starving. You couldn't even get a damn

581
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 5: hot dog at the tail tracks.

582
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: You're right, we couldn't even take food at the tailgates.

583
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: We'll be at the tailgate, the boosters be wanting to

584
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: feed us, y'all.

585
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 5: The food be looking so good. Barbecue benefit.

586
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: It's a benefit. You can't take it. It was strict.

587
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: It was strict, and everyone's like, y'all just hating because

588
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: they know we're not hating. We are so happy for

589
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: y'all because college used to be prison. I'm so I'm

590
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: so happy, but like now it's like a free for all,

591
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: Like you don't even have to.

592
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: Your team doesn't have to be good anymore.

593
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: You don't even have to anymore.

594
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Let's start there, because we're talking about flag As, you know,

595
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: one of the college girls who's doing all of the

596
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: right things. I do also want to out of Dejah Kelly,

597
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: who I feel like is another one that is capitalized

598
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: more than anybody. And she has her own podcast called

599
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: nilas Sophie. I want to say, so she talks like

600
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: nile stuff, So that's fire.

601
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: Shout out to her. And I saw a clip of

602
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: her with Raven.

603
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: Johnson from South Carolina and she was on there talking

604
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: about yeah, you know, they just they're bringing me deals

605
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: and deals and deals, like I don't have time to

606
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: like do anything because we're at shoots for like three

607
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: to four hours a day and all this kind of stuff,

608
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: And that's always been my thing.

609
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, when do y'all have time to like get

610
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: better for real?

611
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 5: Mike?

612
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: And I think maybe that's why we've seen the stagnation

613
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: in the players.

614
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 5: They do not matter.

615
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm just like cause I know me and I know you.

616
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: I was in the practice facility hours before practice, after practice,

617
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: at night time.

618
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: I lived in our practice facility.

619
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I want a big proponment twenty four hours in

620
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: a day, but I don't know how them girls are

621
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: doing it.

622
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: I really don't.

623
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: Fashion Week, the Matt Gala, Nike commercial, Get Right, commercial

624
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: afflat commercials. I mean, you can't help but be so

625
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: happy for all of them.

626
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: But it's just like, all right, like at what? At

627
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: what costs? Now?

628
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Like I feel like as many pros are there is,

629
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: the cons are starting to pile up a bit, and

630
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, money.

631
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: I think Sadonah said it, Sadana Princeman TC who actually spearheaded.

632
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know, I know people have their opinions

633
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: on Sadona right now. I know they do but you

634
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: got to give her credit for like she jumpstarted all

635
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: this shit with her little weight with her with her

636
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: weight to TikTok. So whatever, feel how y'all feel about her, whatever,

637
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: But the fact is, if Sadona doesn't post that video,

638
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: we're not here right now. I don't care what nobody says,

639
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: It's not happening. She made this thing jumpstart. But even

640
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: her saying, you gotta like think long term sometimes sometimes

641
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: that little hunter k like it might look pretty right now,

642
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: but like long term, like you gotta you gotta weigh

643
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: your options. She said that this whole thing gave her

644
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: the ability to play basketball probably longer than she might

645
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: have in the past with injuries, transferring off court stuff.

646
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: But her NIO stuff has like kept her relevant despite

647
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: all the off court stuff. So even you look at

648
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: Haley van Litz covid NIO, the way she was able

649
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: to get that.

650
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: Additional year, it's changed her career.

651
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: This put her career back on track that fast.

652
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: I would have spoke y'all about being transfer kids, because

653
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk in the media about

654
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, and I know I get asked by

655
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: my audience all the time about the transfer portal. But

656
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: I feel like no better two people to speak on

657
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: it than y'all and Diamond you speaking on I had

658
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: to really decide where I wanted to call home because

659
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna have.

660
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: To say, man, bring that set out, bring bring that

661
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: set out. Rule, what do you guys think the solution.

662
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 5: Is, bring it back, bring it back.

663
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: You still get to leave.

664
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they should put any hindrance on NIO deals.

665
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: Nothing but stitch your ass down or go back to

666
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: the one you get one time to leave, We get it.

667
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: One time, J Bellis went on TV and he said

668
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: that they need to start signing kids to contracts like

669
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: multi year.

670
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 5: Did I think so too? That's that incentivize them to stay.

671
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: It's like you wouldn't have this platform or this opportunity

672
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: to be this version of yourself if you weren't coming

673
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: to this university. And so there should be some sort

674
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: of obligation, binding obligation to players, because if not, then

675
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: you get what you have right now. And you can

676
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: see how it's been hurting the men's side right The

677
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: women's side hasn't got to that point yet.

678
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: It's about to.

679
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: But the proof is right in front of you. You

680
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: know this, if this continues, you know, you might run

681
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: into the same issues on the women's side. So you know,

682
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 4: I think contracts would be good. I think the one

683
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: year set out would be good as well, because players

684
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: need to really think about why they want to leave

685
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: a place and if it's worth leaving.

686
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: You could transfer every single year if you want it.

687
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: And make more and more and more and more.

688
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: And yes, that's amazing, great, But like Diamond said, there's

689
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: no like incentives. So yeah, the players who are getting

690
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: their endorsement stuff off outside of basketball, Like, that's not

691
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: going to change whether you make them sit whatever, that's

692
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: not going to change the money that people are getting

693
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: from the universities. I think that's the only place they

694
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: can regulate in any capacity. Is that money, the outside

695
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: money that has nothing to do with the school, Like

696
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: whether they're at this school, a toad school, that school.

697
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: If the companies and brands are attracted to this particular player,

698
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: they're going to follow them, so like, let's not even

699
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: think about that stuff.

700
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 6: Well, and I'm thinking for the school themselves.

701
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 1: There's also that added incentive of well number one, like

702
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: Diamond mentioned, it should be a thought before you leave

703
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: a place where you want to go next. You should

704
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: really have to think about that. But also you commit.

705
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: You should just be committing anywhere because oh, they're offering

706
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: me this amount of money, and I could stay for

707
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: a year, and I could leave if I really want

708
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: to and make more. And then on top of that,

709
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: it benefits the schools to have some structure in place

710
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: for them to have to stay for a certain amount

711
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: of time, because if lage is at a different school

712
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: every year in the Google comprice doesn't make sense.

713
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: What does that do for the schools. It's confusing.

714
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: And at this revenue share in, schools are about to

715
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: be paying even more to their student athletes, so it's

716
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: gonna be even more money. I mean, you see the

717
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: girl Oklahoma, she just signed for like one point three.

718
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm telling you all the top players are going to

719
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: the SEC in the next three years. Every top player

720
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: is going to be that money. Yeah, there's no there.

721
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 2: The other conferences simply can't compete because they got the

722
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: TV money, they got the football money. Their boosters are

723
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: clearly just super wealthy and they love their universe. I

724
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: will say people of these who go to SEC schools

725
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: have a lot of pride whether their athletes or not.

726
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: So I know that's all right, yeah yeah, So it's

727
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: like that much is coming in from everywhere. So like

728
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: I foresee the SEC running the table. I mean they're

729
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 2: running it right now. Look key, they're on the way

730
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: and they're doing it for men already. So football, women's basketball,

731
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: men's basketball is all gonna live in the SEC. And like,

732
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what that's gonna look like for the

733
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: rest of the schools, Like what are they what are

734
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: these what are these other schools gonna do? Like they're

735
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: they're gonna be Power five schools with one two star

736
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: recruits because everybody's going to the big everyone's going to

737
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: the same conference now, so like you're gonna have well what.

738
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 5: If they privatize that conference.

739
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: And like something, something dramatic is gonna happen. Something dramatic

740
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: is gonna happen.

741
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what about the other sports? Exactly? What

742
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: about the other sports?

743
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: Like let's start with that, Like we are so hyper

744
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: focused on basketball and football, but like, yes, like what

745
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 2: about the other freaking sports. Your team, your men's basketball

746
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: team and women's basketball teams, the football teams suck. Those

747
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: other programs are gonna get cut.

748
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: It's so sad.

749
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: I was talking, you know, one of my friends who

750
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 2: was telling me about the SMU coaching staff getting fired

751
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: because SMU look like a JV high school team in

752
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: the ACC. That I was like, oh, so, now the

753
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: whole staff you lose your jobs because y'all made a

754
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: selfish decision to move a team that has no business

755
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: being in the ACC playing in the ACC. And now

756
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: you have a lot of unhappyness going on because why

757
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: are y'all in that conference?

758
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: Well what about the travel? Yeah, the travel is a

759
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: mess right now?

760
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't make sense of it. I can't make sense.

761
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean when in USC and Cal and Stanford, even Stanford,

762
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: Like I don't I didn't watch Stanford play that much

763
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: this year, but like Stanford has never They've always been good,

764
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: like no matter what, like whatever they have a superstar

765
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: and not a superstar whatever, They've always been solid. I've

766
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: never seen a Stanford team look like the one that

767
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: they had this year. And I'm gonna say that the

768
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: travel was probably insane. You're in the ACC, right, They're

769
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: in the ACC.

770
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 5: Now.

771
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: I went to watch their their back volleyball team play

772
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, and I'm sitting are thinking, these girls are

773
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: in college, they got class tomorrow Atlanta playing a volleyball game.

774
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 6: What the hell?

775
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: Like that we already know, like that trip, that trip

776
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: after the game.

777
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 5: You getting in at three am? You got an eight

778
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: am class.

779
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 4: First of all, you have to have the early class

780
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: as a student athlete because you got practice in the afternoon.

781
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: So you got them eight ams, you got the ten ams.

782
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: So if you get in at two, three, four am, guess.

783
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: What gets up. There's just no rhyme and reason behind it.

784
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think we all got so caught up

785
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: in like, yes, athletes are making money like fuck n Cuba,

786
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: but like no, it's the shit show now.

787
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: Well, people are quiet about the actually making money from

788
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: the school park And that's why I think a lot

789
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: of people have less reservations about it because not as

790
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: many people. Obviously, we're in sports circles, so we're aware

791
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: of dang you made how much to transfer toware But

792
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: the average fan, the media is not gassing that up

793
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: like they're gassing up.

794
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: Oh they were in a Google commercial. Yeah, like that

795
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: doesn't have anything to do with the SMA.

796
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: Majority of the players are making their money from the

797
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: university there is only a handful who have TV deals

798
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: and who have big brand deals, Like that's like the

799
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 4: nth percentile. Yeah, you know, like most every college athlete

800
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: is getting paid from the.

801
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: Collective and it's not that much.

802
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: Well, then turn to the revenue share, which is like

803
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: I don't know how many millions of dollars distributed amongst

804
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: what men's men's basketball, women's basketball, and football. I believe

805
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: it's like twenty five million.

806
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: Dollars and then the rest of the sports get the crumbs.

807
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 2: But it's crazy because even I just read an article

808
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: about South Carolina women's basketball team and that they lost money.

809
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: They lose money every year, right, So the business of

810
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: college sports and the business of professional sports, it's so different.

811
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: You lose five four to five million dollars a year.

812
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: You're not paying anybody because you can't. So in college

813
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: it's so different. It's like it's just as backwards to

814
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: me because as amazing as the South Carolina program is

815
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: and they're selling out arenas and they're winning championships, they

816
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: have still lost money every year.

817
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: And that's not a dig at the program. It's numbers.

818
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Well, but then you also have the boosters, like I

819
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: was just joking with my friends when we were at

820
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: the Elite A the other day. I was like, man,

821
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: if Georgia basketball don't get it together, I'm gonna have

822
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: to make me some money so I can start paying them.

823
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 3: And I'm nil money myself.

824
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: Like I have a friend who was like, if I

825
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: have money, I would give it to the nil collective

826
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: want to? I want them to get money too. I'm like,

827
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: people really feel that way about the athletes.

828
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'd be going out to recruit myself if

829
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: I had just like throw away money, if I were

830
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: one of these big billionaires that went to a school man,

831
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

832
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, so now you look at the

833
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: business of sports now, because now that's what we're turning.

834
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: That's what college is.

835
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: It's not just fun shits and gigs anymore in college,

836
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: Like this is now real money is being made and

837
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: distributed to the athletes or whatever. What does that look

838
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: like for sports programs that don't make money because now

839
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: they're implementing this revenue share thing. I feel like it's

840
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: not gonna be good for the majority.

841
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 3: How do you stay competitive? It's not you're losing six

842
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 3: million dollars a year.

843
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: Schools are like hiring general managers now, you know, like

844
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: I'm telling y'all, like it's becoming.

845
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: They are this close to becoming pro It's.

846
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: About to be like that pipeline, you know, like in

847
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: Europe where you could play like second division, third division.

848
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 5: It's going to kind of be like that.

849
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: I feel like it's gonna be like a pro league.

850
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 4: But certain teams of certain universities are going to exist

851
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 4: separate of the university and they're going to exist in

852
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: like a league.

853
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: It's insane. Then what a school come in mar You know,

854
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: they don't care about school.

855
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: They haven't cared about school for a way before nil,

856
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: trust me, but now they definitely don't. And now what

857
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: does that mean for the actual pro leagues that exists, Like,

858
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: are we going to have to start having like WNBA, NCAA,

859
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: like separate things like you have. These are the twelve

860
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: players I finna get drafted, so we're gonna put them

861
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: in an academy.

862
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 5: I just think there's so much change still yet to come.

863
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's just the basketball nerd and

864
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: business of basketball nerd and me. These are these things

865
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: keep me up at night, guys, They really do because

866
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: I want to be a general manager. But like, and

867
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, do I want to be a college

868
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: general manager? Because there's a hell of money in that.

869
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: So now we're gonna pivot since you mentioned like the

870
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: European style, you know, since Juju got hurt, there's been

871
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: a lot of conversation about, you know, how she's gonna

872
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: make her return.

873
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: Is she gonna stay for her all of her eligibility years,

874
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah. They need to change the rule.

875
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: Players need to be able to leave after one season,

876
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. If y'all didn't know, Diamond

877
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: had one year of eligibility left at Tennessee and she

878
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: decided to go pro.

879
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: So this has happened before. Players have not.

880
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: Done all their years of eligibility, they've left. Diamond's done it.

881
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: I think Juweloyd did it. I think Jackie Young might

882
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: have came out early. So for for y'all, like early

883
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: means you have to be twenty two in the draft year.

884
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: So whether you turn twenty two before the drafts or

885
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: after drafts, it just has to be in that year.

886
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: So nobody is stopping anybody from leaving early.

887
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: But diamond.

888
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: Can you like talk about like how you made that decision?

889
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: And I remember when you did make that decision, it

890
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: did not go over well, So can you like watch.

891
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: I mean, like you said, there are certain parameters that

892
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: have to be met before you can even just make

893
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: that decision to turn pro on the female side, which

894
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know about. So you have

895
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: to either be twenty two years of age or you know,

896
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: have graduated college, which again is why players in the

897
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: w are just so smart and intelligent, because we all

898
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 4: have degrees. But yeah, I mean when I made my decision, obviously,

899
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: like there was no money being made in college and

900
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: the draft had already passed, so the only thing that

901
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 4: I could do was go play in Europe. And when

902
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: I saw that contract and I saw that dollar amount,

903
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 4: it was pretty much a no brainer for me that

904
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: I was gonna leave. So I went and played in Turkey,

905
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: had a blast, and then got drafted the following year.

906
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: When people talk about like the college holding holding players

907
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: back and the WNBA needs to change the rule, I'm like,

908
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: y'all want us to change an entire rule for like two.

909
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 4: It really amazes me how mediocre people think the W

910
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: is talent wise.

911
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: That is a hill I've been dying on for months.

912
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: Diamond literally crucified.

913
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: How common the thought is that there are multiple pros

914
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: in college right now in the draft class rather that

915
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: can go to a training camp and make a team.

916
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 4: I'm like, you guys don't pay attention. You don't really

917
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 4: understand the depths of these rosters and how some most

918
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: teams don't even have a spot to take or make,

919
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: you know, So stay in school is pretty wise, especially

920
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: considering the amount of money that.

921
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 5: Can be made.

922
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying like, because I don't even know,

923
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: like with our CBA stuff, diamonds in these these meetings too.

924
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: For the CBA, like I've always like thrown around the

925
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: idea of possibly guaranteeing rookie contracts at least like their

926
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: first two years, because when people are like, oh, yeah,

927
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: they can come out early and dah da da da

928
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: those it's not like the NBA those. If you're a

929
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: first rounder, you can get cut in training camp the

930
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: year you get drafted, like and we've seen it happen.

931
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: So now I'm like, you're asking you want nineteen twenty

932
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: twenty one year old women to leave school degreeless and

933
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: then just be out in the wild, like that's what

934
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: y'all want, because y'all think two players in the last

935
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: ten years have been pro ready early, which again going

936
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 2: back to the thinking the league is mediocre, We've seen

937
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: plenty of pro ready players early in their career.

938
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: Diamond actually was one of them as well.

939
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: So I just think that conversation is done. But like

940
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: talking to someone like you, Diamond that left early, did

941
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: you think that helped you or hurt you? Like, do

942
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: you wish you stayed, you know, money aside. In hindsight,

943
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: are you still like happy that you forewent your scene?

944
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: I mean, in hindsight, I was happy with my decision because,

945
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 4: you know, again the landscape was so different. I was

946
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 4: finally able to get paid for doing a job that

947
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: I'd been doing for free for so long. You know,

948
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: I was coming out of the leg surgery. You only

949
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: get to play basketball for so long, and so at

950
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: that time, you know, staying in college for four years

951
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: was just like it was a major sacrifice on like

952
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 4: prime playing years for a female basketball player. However, economically,

953
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: you know, it made sense for you to stay in

954
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 4: school and get your degree because an event that you

955
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: leave and you get cut from a team. Now you

956
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 4: don't have no job, and you don't have a degree,

957
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 4: and you don't have no money. So again, when I

958
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: was making my decision, I had already graduated college, so

959
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 4: that was the big make or breaker for me. I

960
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 4: had the degree, so I would have been staying to

961
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 4: do a grad year where I wouldn't have been in

962
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: no classes. I would have been a professional athlete for free,

963
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: and that just didn't make sense. So yeah, the degree

964
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: was the big you know, make or breaker for me.

965
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 7: After I got that, it was time to go, said,

966
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 7: I'm out, Like.

967
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: You said, a lot of people underestimate how hard it

968
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: actually is to maintain a spot in the w let

969
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: alone separate yourself enough to have a long withstanding career

970
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: and be a star to make the kind of money

971
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: they might be making in college. And I think that

972
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: it feels like I hate when this conversation comes up

973
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: because maybe just as a fan, it feels so simple

974
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: to me.

975
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: But why would you not choose.

976
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: To get your degree for free because you're on scholarship

977
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: and then now you're also getting paid, So that's like

978
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: a whole other thing.

979
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: A lot paid amounts of money that there's no salary cap,

980
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 3: there's no rules, you're getting paid whatever.

981
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: And then number three, you're still getting to do the

982
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: commercials and the endorsement deals and get sent.

983
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: Stuff and do all that stuff. Exactly what's the benefit.

984
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: And then also on top of that, when you were

985
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: speaking about Diamond earlier, the idea of getting to make

986
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: a name for yourself at this university because of the

987
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: fandoms that the university already has, the history that these

988
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: universities already have. Like you're getting to establish yourself, make

989
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: a name for yourself, get a degree for free, and

990
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: get paid.

991
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 6: Why would you why would you want to rush that

992
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 6: process at time?

993
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 5: It makes sense as if you're a guy and you're walking.

994
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: Because your windows where you're making twenty million or however much.

995
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: The name like it's.

996
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 5: Perfect right now to be a female athlete in college.

997
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: It's the most no brainer is thought process of stay

998
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: your ass in school for.

999
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 3: As long as as as.

1000
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 5: Long as you can.

1001
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: You see the dude at Florida's pro day, he's like

1002
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: twenty seven, and he's like, I'm like, yeah, do that.

1003
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: If you can do that inside, stay forever.

1004
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 5: It makes it's just what makes the most sense.

1005
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: But also I feel like it's good for new fans

1006
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: of the W because coming in when you've seen Juju

1007
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: all four years or whatever at USC and you starget

1008
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: hurt and she comes back, she's a crazy year blah

1009
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, all this stuff and then carries that

1010
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: momentum with her. Like, as a fan, that's I'd rather

1011
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: see that story see her leave prematurely and not Juju specifically,

1012
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: because she's obviously incredible, but see people leave prematurely and

1013
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: then get cut and I'm like or.

1014
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: Buried on the bench.

1015
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: And that's what used to happen, is like you have

1016
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: these all Americans getting drafted and out of the first round,

1017
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: maybe two or three get real minutes their rookie season.

1018
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: We and Lexie talk about that all the time, rookies

1019
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: getting benched. That's another thing that I feel like, as

1020
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: the media starts talking more about women's basketball without actually

1021
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: watching it, that's the thing I hear a lot of, Well,

1022
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: you should just play them because we know that we

1023
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: know who they are and we've been hearing about them.

1024
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 3: But there's a balance. But what do you guys think about?

1025
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: Because I hear them in the sense where it's like, okay,

1026
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: marketing whatever, but you can't sacrifice the level of basketball

1027
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: being played for that.

1028
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: Well, we saw that happen probably in like the last

1029
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: third of the season.

1030
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of.

1031
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: Teams were like, okay, go, rookies, go, and then that

1032
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: playoff push come in and they're like.

1033
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: All right, y'all need to chill out, sit.

1034
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: Down, and we're gonna put the vets on the floor

1035
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: to go win a championship.

1036
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: But I mean, I like.

1037
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: It's evident what wins and what has success, and the

1038
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: franchises and the organizations who keep that at the forefront

1039
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 4: in terms of people who work hard, people who are professionals,

1040
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: people who play hard and who are consistent, they're the

1041
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: ones who have success. You know, you can play that

1042
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 4: game with the media and you know, lose players out

1043
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 4: there too, but you're gonna lose, and you know you're

1044
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: going to continue to enhance this idea that that's what

1045
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 4: it means to be, you know, a star player in

1046
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: this league when that idea only just started to exist.

1047
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: You know, we've had stars in this league for decades

1048
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 4: who didn't get no credit, none of the props and

1049
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: attention that they deserve.

1050
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: That they should have had.

1051
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 4: I think that we would be doing the League of

1052
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: disservice if we continued or started to kind of.

1053
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 3: Do that pander.

1054
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: I call that pandering, and I'm tired of it. Yes,

1055
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm sick of it. And I hope that this season,

1056
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: I hope everyone learned when they looked at who was

1057
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: in the finals what pandering does for you. It gets

1058
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: you sent home, because we saw two very veteran heavy

1059
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: teams in the finals and gave us an amazing product.

1060
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: So with stars, with stars actually, like with czars.

1061
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't but the media controls who the stars are.

1062
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: That's a whole other conversation for a whole their day.

1063
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: But who we're talking about and who we're pushing are

1064
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: going to be the stars well or not. And so

1065
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: you if you put these people that are just magnets

1066
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: for being talked about out in the forefront on the

1067
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: basketball court up against people who've been in the league

1068
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: for years and years and years that are like, please,

1069
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: you're only you're doing them into service too, because then

1070
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: they look bad.

1071
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: But you know, it's crazy, it's crazy that you said that,

1072
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: because you know, we were talking about how in college

1073
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: and everybody's like spreading out and the W it's like

1074
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: it's going opposite. Everyone's trying to team up. Now it's

1075
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: like completely it's like opposite now. Like now in the W,

1076
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: it's like you're more powerful as a collective, you know,

1077
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: if you've got a group of us that are outgoing

1078
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: have good brand can hoop, Like you're better off if

1079
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: there's more of y'all doing that. And in college, you're

1080
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: kind of better off if you're all kind of spread

1081
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: out a little bit more. So, it's like very interesting,

1082
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: how like the dynamic has like completely flip flopped between

1083
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: college and Yeah, I think.

1084
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 4: The course of events by which marketing has been incorporated

1085
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: into women's sports, it definitely has peaked in college before

1086
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 4: it has met the pros. So you know, it makes

1087
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 4: sense in college because you know, it's just such a

1088
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 4: big thing in college right now. But you know, for

1089
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: those of us who've been professional, it's like, you know

1090
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: a lot of us still trying to get brand deals,

1091
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: still trying to get paid outside of just your basketball salaries,

1092
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: whereas it's just a bit more common in college, it seems,

1093
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 4: and lucrative, no for sure.

1094
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: Well, another thing with the whole it being spread out

1095
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: in college to make money, whereas like in the league,

1096
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: it seems to be doing the opposite. I feel like, listen,

1097
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm not the WBI, so you can y'all can tell

1098
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. But I feel like that's also

1099
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: because you get judged when you're in the pros based

1100
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: off of winning performance, winning championships.

1101
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: So if we team.

1102
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: Up, win and maybe we got to see if you're

1103
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: gonna still be here in a few years, because how

1104
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: many players do we see come out and by.

1105
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 5: The second year, you'd be like, damn where they go?

1106
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 4: You know, you can't as a brand, You're not about to,

1107
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 4: you know, create a multi year partnership with somebody where

1108
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 4: you don't even know if they're gonna be on a team.

1109
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: On the team anymore. I mean, you said, I'm dealing

1110
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: with that right now. They're like, damn, we thought she's

1111
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: for b LA for a minute. Now the opportunities shift

1112
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: a little bit, they change, like.

1113
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: Well, LEXI, you're about to benefit from what I was

1114
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: just talking about winning coaching.

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00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: Okay, before we get out of here.

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00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: Diamond, if y'all didn't know, Diamond is now on the

1117
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: Connecticut Sun and the organization has been a bit under

1118
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: attack as of late.

1119
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: So Diamond, I want you to.

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00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: Provide some hopefully positivity and some light on what y'all

1121
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: got going on in Connecticut. I'm very excited for you,

1122
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: by the way, to be there and be able to

1123
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: get back to hooping the way you hoop. So if

1124
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: you can let our listeners know what the vibes are

1125
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: in Connectic.

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00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: You were just up there. You did a broadcast for

1127
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: the Celtics, which was fire. That's right. Give the listeners

1128
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: a little insight on what was going on.

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00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: Well, the vibes in Connecticut are great. Actually, you know,

1130
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 4: whole front office, everybody is really looking forward to this season.

1131
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 4: You know, obviously a lot of departures in the off season,

1132
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: big departures.

1133
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 5: But I've been a part of a rebuild before.

1134
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: I've successfully rebuilt before in an organization in Chicago where

1135
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 4: you know, it was kind of a mess when I

1136
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: got there, and you know, then we won a championship.

1137
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 4: So you know, this is not foreign territory for me.

1138
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 4: Like I'm excited about the opportunity to be a part

1139
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 4: of a franchise that honestly has winning pedigree, has that

1140
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 4: DNA still exists, and just continuing to build on it. Like,

1141
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 4: you know, you can say what you want about the

1142
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: team and the decisions that have been made, but you know, Lexi,

1143
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: on any given night, anything could happen, any team could win.

1144
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: We have a talented team, We have a good group.

1145
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 4: I'm really excited about playing for Rashid and the rest

1146
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: of the coaching staff. One of the big things for

1147
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: me is just like no narratives, you know, we get

1148
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: to go there and just like.

1149
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: Hoop, just play, Yeah, just play.

1150
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 5: Which people underestimate and undervalue. You know.

1151
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: It's really nice to be in a space where basketball

1152
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 4: is the focal point. So yeah, there's a lot to

1153
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: look forward to in Connecticut, you know what I'm saying.

1154
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 4: And you know, for those who maybe feel differently, it's

1155
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 4: kind of just something that you just have to wait

1156
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: and see, you know. And again, all eyes we appreciate.

1157
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: So even if you're watching.

1158
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 3: To see if it's a ship, shall yeah, like you.

1159
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 4: Know, we're still here, Hey watch you're here, so.

1160
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: Still watching, y'all still watching.

1161
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 4: So I'm you know, I'm excited, and I'm really grateful

1162
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 4: and fortunate for the opportunity. Man, Like, having a job

1163
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 4: in this league is a blessing. You never take it

1164
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 4: for granted, no matter where it is. So I'm really

1165
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 4: happy good.

1166
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad see y'all. It's not horrible up there. It's

1167
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: not as bad as y'all think.

1168
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 8: Because people was going in on the Connecticut Son, I

1169
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 8: was like, all right, y'all, I mean it was a

1170
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 8: little there was question marks, but again, we're all professionals here,

1171
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 8: and y'all have y'all don't have a y'all's team is

1172
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 8: not trash by any mean y'all gonna be all right.

1173
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: Next to you know, like you already know, Bro, everything

1174
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 4: ain't always what it seems. Unless you're there on the

1175
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 4: day to day, you can't really speak on it, right,

1176
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: that's the truth.

1177
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: Y'all heard that.

1178
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 4: Say it again, Diamond, Is you there on the day

1179
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 4: to day, bro, shut out, speak on it, shut your mouth.

1180
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Lord got a good place to end because I

1181
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: felt like that was a nice little call out to

1182
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 2: people who got too much things to stay with very

1183
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: limited information. But Diamond, I'm so happy we've made this happen.

1184
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation and I will

1185
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: see y'all next week on the Full Circle Podcast.

1186
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 5: Bye.

1187
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: Y'all, thanks for listening to Full Circle.

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00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with more basketball for the Girls,

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00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,360
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