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<v Speaker 1>Speaks to the plane in Charlamagne to God here and

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<v Speaker 1>as we come closer the closing out this year, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say thank you for tuning it into

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Podcast Network. There have been so many great

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<v Speaker 1>moments over the past year. Take a listen to some

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<v Speaker 1>of those captivating moments in this special best of episode.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the Man, here's my friend. He is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Legend of icon, a motherfucking tycoon. In case you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're talking about, we talking about the one

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<v Speaker 1>and only impeccable Chris Love of Lover Lula.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, your career is just phenomenal. Right, thank you, bro?

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<v Speaker 2>When is the time?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know for my own personal experience, sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't think I've made it right off fils don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I got to.

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<v Speaker 2>The level where I want to get.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's so many people in this world that says, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>when was the time that you felt like, man, I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't be man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was It was two different times.

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<v Speaker 3>So one, like I told you, I used to work

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<v Speaker 3>in that radio station and they never had us on

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<v Speaker 3>contracts because I was myself and a guy by the

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<v Speaker 3>name of pun Daddy were the youngest, the youngest guys

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<v Speaker 3>at the radio station DC Now, no, no, not that,

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<v Speaker 3>not that. So we were the youngest people at the station.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically everybody else had contracts at least year contracts.

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<v Speaker 3>So me and him, I'm like, again, I'm eighteen, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm young as hell. I don't know shit. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>out here having fun, making making more money than I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen hosting clubs. So since they didn't have us on

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<v Speaker 3>a contract, you know, we were in fear of losing

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<v Speaker 3>our jobs every day because we were live wise. We

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<v Speaker 3>were doing stupid shit at that radio station, things that

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<v Speaker 3>you would get fired for immediately, shock.

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<v Speaker 2>Jock type shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, fine, shock jockshit shock jock is like doing

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<v Speaker 1>something that you know, ah, youre.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about against the competitors. Suggest No, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 3>just stupid young ship like you know, smoking weed and

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<v Speaker 3>the limit almost burning the goddamn car down. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The crazy shit is that at the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>day when I was when once your fantasy came out,

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<v Speaker 3>so I had an independent Wait so.

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<v Speaker 1>What talmow, tmaow, what's your fantasy came up while you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the radio station.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I'll cut you quick.

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<v Speaker 3>So the whole story goes, I'm at this station and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm making these you know, little hundreds of dollars here

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<v Speaker 3>and there while I'm hosting these clubs. So I built

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<v Speaker 3>up enough money to where I had about five to

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<v Speaker 3>ten thousand dollars, where I put all that money back

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<v Speaker 3>into my own album. So I'm paying for all my

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<v Speaker 3>record and all my mix and all my mastering. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is a time when Vinyl was still out, So

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<v Speaker 3>I pressed this whole fucking CD together and I had

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<v Speaker 3>the vinyl and everything, and then I distributed independently, even

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<v Speaker 3>though first you kind of sell the shit out to

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<v Speaker 3>trunk and there was an independent distributor in Atlanta. So

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<v Speaker 3>once I started put I put the shit out. But

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<v Speaker 3>the craziest, most dynamic, strategic part about this whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Plan is in radio.

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<v Speaker 3>As you know, as time goes on, everybody at radio

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<v Speaker 3>they moved a different city, so a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>don't stay in one particular slot in one city at

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So during that to four years.

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<v Speaker 3>That I told you, I was up there trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get put on as Ludicris, and it eventually had to

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<v Speaker 3>invest in myself. I had a lot of friends in

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<v Speaker 3>different places that had dispersed all around the country. So

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<v Speaker 3>I literally told them, yo, I got this single. It's

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<v Speaker 3>called What's Your Fantasy? Just give it a fucking try

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<v Speaker 3>on your station, other stations, my friends, so I had

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<v Speaker 3>a network, but it was all it was all a plan.

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<v Speaker 3>So they started playing it. The ship gets instant reaction, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>instant reaction on there on their channels. So once the

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<v Speaker 3>ship started to blow up and I yes, spins, which

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<v Speaker 3>is what's giving me. We had like eight hundred bdspins

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<v Speaker 3>on our independent artists, which was unfucking heard of. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is when all the labels started calling me. Before

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<v Speaker 3>I get to that, we motherfucking started calling my cell phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how to fuck they got my

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<v Speaker 3>cell phone. I'm talking about CEOs at every goddamn label,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, that's another story for another day. But

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<v Speaker 3>ended up signing with Death Jam and they sent me

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<v Speaker 3>my contract, and I remember being on air and all

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<v Speaker 3>those times that this station made me feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>could get fired every fucking day, signing my contract while

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<v Speaker 3>I was still on the air, and that being one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best fucking days of my life. Knowing that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't tell them to go fuck themselves or nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was Radio I love I just literally after I

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<v Speaker 3>signed that contract with him and said, hey, I probably

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<v Speaker 3>won't be working here anymore, just letting y'all know I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna put my two weeks in Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In two weeks of life. But how did you? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Symbolic as fuck? So the crazy shit is, you know

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<v Speaker 3>DJ Gregg Street. Greg Street was my competitor. So he's

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<v Speaker 3>on this other station that you everything you do is

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<v Speaker 3>competing against the other station. And we were on the

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<v Speaker 3>same time slide, which is six to ten. So the

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<v Speaker 3>moment when What's your Fantasy started gaining traction and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on the air the same as him, and this motherfucker

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<v Speaker 3>started playing What's your Fantasy, somebody text me and was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 3>Greg Street is playing your song right now. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not believing that shit. So were on commercial break.

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<v Speaker 3>I turned to this but Bucker station and I hear

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<v Speaker 3>my song on the competitors station, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, that's quick.

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<v Speaker 3>I fucking made it one of the best days of

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<v Speaker 3>my life. So all that in one you can call it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first time time. Okay, Number two is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be me winning that rap album Best Rap Album at

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<v Speaker 3>the Grammys. So this was probably a good ten years later,

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<v Speaker 3>every time I went to the Grammys, I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>category with Eminem and Jah Rule and these motherfuckers were

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<v Speaker 3>killing this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Z d MX Luther's huge artists.

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<v Speaker 3>But when it comes to these motherfuckers, I'm losing every

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<v Speaker 3>motherfucking award right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet, so yeah, it's all good.

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<v Speaker 3>So I come around and finally, man, I make this

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<v Speaker 3>album released Therapy Bro, and I went on there and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, I'm making this fucking album and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to win Best Rap Album for this ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm specifically going in writing this ship, making it the

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<v Speaker 3>way it needs to be. And when they called my

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<v Speaker 3>fucking name, Bro, I was like, that was that did

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<v Speaker 3>it for me? Because of you know, all the years.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like over a decade of loss and then

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<v Speaker 3>finally getting that recognition and then Best Rap Album at

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<v Speaker 3>that which you already know as hard as fucking and

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't really giving the rap category.

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<v Speaker 2>What they needed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a funny story to that, I know, Shaka

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<v Speaker 3>gonna laugh at this shit because I was so passionate

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<v Speaker 3>after I got that award. I went backstage and at

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<v Speaker 3>this time, they had all the artists separated by curtains,

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<v Speaker 3>so motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 2>Weren't in specific rooms. I say that to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say I get back and I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I made it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it. I won. I literally set out this

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<v Speaker 2>album to make it get a Grammy and I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>And all of a sudden, I hear this voice from

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<v Speaker 3>the other room, on the other side of the curtain,

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<v Speaker 3>and the motherfucker's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, shut the fuck up, man, some of us didn't

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<v Speaker 2>win anything. Like who the fuck is that.

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<v Speaker 3>I pulled the curtain back. This nigga justin Timberlake is

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side of that motherfucker. Oh, the nigga said,

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<v Speaker 3>shut the fuck up. Some of us didn't win. And

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<v Speaker 3>he got there grammed this year. What the fuck nigga

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<v Speaker 3>justin Gangster Broly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, I'm gonna say something else. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked about t earlier and like all the ship that

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<v Speaker 3>we've been through, something that I do respect of all

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<v Speaker 3>the ship that we've been through, that same setting, within

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<v Speaker 3>that same timeframe as me winning, because he was in

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<v Speaker 3>the same category. He came up to me and said congratulates,

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<v Speaker 3>look me in my eye, gave his hand and said congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>That's some hard ship for a nigga to do. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked all the ship that we had that was negativity.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something I want everybody to know that was positive

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<v Speaker 3>as fun and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Respect that because we asked him about you on the

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<v Speaker 1>same show and he kind of had the same sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give some flowers, get some flowers, give some little flowers,

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<v Speaker 1>and be.

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<v Speaker 2>Honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>From the beginning of our show, we wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>you these flowers. We wanted to tell you how great

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<v Speaker 1>you are. You you he's been a year one request.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been year one request.

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<v Speaker 4>You're in the quarantine episode, but that didn't count.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me just say that that means the world

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<v Speaker 2>you have you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you who you are as an artist. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you who I was a person, but

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<v Speaker 1>who you are as an artist.

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<v Speaker 2>You have that unique of fitting. Let's let's just make

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<v Speaker 2>a look.

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<v Speaker 1>In the flower that lady for you. You're the first

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<v Speaker 1>one to get the flowers in a breech a new

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<v Speaker 1>iteration case. Yes, because there's love of people but let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you who you are. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>who you.

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<v Speaker 3>Are, tell me about myself, mother fucker, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear. There isn't There isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Another artist who can fit in a gangster genre and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a backpack genre and kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a top forty genre and kind of like any genre

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of fit there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how you like? That's love.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a You're a rappers rapper, That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Really rest yes coming from that means the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just being honest with you. That means you

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<v Speaker 2>can more into anything. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if I said this earlier, but

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<v Speaker 1>one of my biggest gripes with Pharrell was when I

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<v Speaker 1>first got in the studio Forharrell, he was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to embrace your character.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that leor was that Pharrell Leo Farrell? No?

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<v Speaker 1>But Pharrell was like no, but he really was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to embrace your character.

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<v Speaker 2>How buster embraces a character?

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't understand because I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a character, being who I am, and He's like, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter who you think you are, is how the

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<v Speaker 1>people perceive you. And I never embraced my character, and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like, from the moment I've seen you from

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<v Speaker 1>what's your fantasy?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this guy's embracing his character.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing exactly what Forrell. And by the way, throw

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<v Speaker 1>them bolls. I heard that beat, I heard this.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta tell you what happened. The rumor is the

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<v Speaker 2>true one year.

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<v Speaker 1>For twenty one years, I've been kicking my ass and

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<v Speaker 1>kicking myself in the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not for you, bro, it wasn't for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You knew that it wasn't for me. It wasn't for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I would have to go to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital that I wouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that wasn't for you. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I see the video with you upside down,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>How it's heard to be. I was upside down. Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me say, as you're giving me my flowers, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna tell you band from TV, that ship changed my

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<v Speaker 3>fucking life.

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<v Speaker 2>My life.

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<v Speaker 3>So anything, look, anything you're giving me right now, DNA

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<v Speaker 3>that helped mold me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about throw them bolls. Oh, so the

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<v Speaker 1>hospitality you in the studio, that's just after my fantasy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is after and we had to literally turn

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking album in like the day after.

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<v Speaker 4>Im it's already death, not the independent version of what

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<v Speaker 4>you were putting out already.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this is death, jan this is one what version

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<v Speaker 2>of death?

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<v Speaker 5>L A.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first album.

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<v Speaker 1>Fat Kevin, Fat Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just be clear. It two different Kevin's. Yes, I Love,

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<v Speaker 2>I love all three.

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<v Speaker 4>Rob Love is doing the MARB. I had just started

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<v Speaker 4>started doing Jure you just that's when I started doing

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<v Speaker 4>Street Team. This is my first project that I worked

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<v Speaker 4>as the regional form for.

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<v Speaker 2>South Florida Fantasy. Yeah, this project Lucros product. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>put the f N on.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that doc Freshman passages you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so you go to the studio and then got

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<v Speaker 2>this beat already playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Brell got the beat Man, and I'm like, believe it

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<v Speaker 3>or not? Like I was saying earlier, sometimes you know

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<v Speaker 3>what's a hit. Sometimes you were like I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was cool when I first heard it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he start doing like this? Yeah? Of course you

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<v Speaker 2>know for real? Sorry, So I.

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<v Speaker 3>Go in the car, like this is where I write

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<v Speaker 3>my music.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my car.

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<v Speaker 3>I always I write all of my ship in a car.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the fucking car. You got the surround sound.

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<v Speaker 3>I get my own space, roll the window down.

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<v Speaker 2>Producers do that too, with the beats they go in

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<v Speaker 2>the car. Did they make it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah percent, So I think maybe it took maybe forty

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes to an hour. I had them verses. I

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<v Speaker 3>went in there, did the ship. Still thought the song

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<v Speaker 3>was cool. And then when everybody else heard that motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 3>they was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you fucking crazy out of here? It was that

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<v Speaker 1>we was in Virginia, Virginia. We was in fucking book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We was in Virginia at for Real Studio. Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that. Yeah, hell yeah. So that's how that

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<v Speaker 3>shit came about, man, And that's what that's what set

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<v Speaker 3>it off, because what's your Fantasy was for the ladies obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>and then once throdn Bulls.

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<v Speaker 2>Came out, it was a rap that was like the

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<v Speaker 2>record is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>That rounded everything out in terms of me being a

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<v Speaker 3>new fucking artist, and it was it was a game changing.

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<v Speaker 2>No you want you're a new artist, put you on

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<v Speaker 2>Death Jam.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and to me, the first Southern artist signed to

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<v Speaker 3>death Jam, by the way, no other Southern artist, So

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<v Speaker 3>it was all New New York roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, you read this is what this is,

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I want to I mean, read from this.

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<v Speaker 1>But because what's Scarface already the president?

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<v Speaker 4>Nod you was.

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<v Speaker 1>Already shined to death Jam, and then they made Scarface

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<v Speaker 1>the President.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say it happened like sign damnit Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it was you first, and then that's when they

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like run in Scarface face.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was president. Like right before I got signed,

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<v Speaker 3>co signed yep, so Kevin and Scarface. I was their

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<v Speaker 3>first sign. Again you God, you had jay Z, had Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>you had d MX, you got You, you got Meth,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody whole roster New York, and I was first Southern artist.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were debating about, you know, whether this was

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<v Speaker 3>the right label for us, because he was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, if they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what to do with the Southern arm.

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<v Speaker 4>You have felt dope because regardless any hip hop had,

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<v Speaker 4>death Jam.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the mecca.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, man, cool Jay changed my life. You must have

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<v Speaker 3>been like, man, I'm bad. That's that's the reason I'm

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<v Speaker 3>here at this table today. That's the reason I wrap.

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<v Speaker 3>And I told this motherfucker he was there when I

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<v Speaker 3>got the Hollywood Star Uh just this this this year,

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<v Speaker 3>so man, yeah yeah now ll Co yeah so depth

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<v Speaker 3>Jan one. I was excited, but that was the only

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<v Speaker 3>reservation as I was, I was the only selling artist

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<v Speaker 3>on there.

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<v Speaker 2>But that ship worked out like a motherfucker. Hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you ever do a residency?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, we would love first presidency be in Vegas for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Residencies just announce it. I know, Found Blue just opened.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh I currently have a deal in Vegas, so politically

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna be able to tell you that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But next time I'm on this won't be the last.

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<v Speaker 1>Wherever you're the deal is, let's go. Let's do that now,

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<v Speaker 1>Lovers and Friends. When I was on here, we were

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<v Speaker 1>on the way coming here. A lot of people say

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<v Speaker 1>they made a lot of babies to lovers in France.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great thing. Ship Is that a great thing?

0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.680
<v Speaker 3>That's a great thing. A lot of people make babies.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your fantasy too? But y'all, no, Lovers and Friends.

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<v Speaker 3>We never shot a video for that shit ever. And

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<v Speaker 3>this record is huge, but till this day, I just

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<v Speaker 3>had a show last night. I got a show tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>We always do Lovers and Friends and the whole crowd

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<v Speaker 3>sings the whole damn song. But that's that's a special

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<v Speaker 3>one right there, for sure. So where was you at?

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<v Speaker 3>Usher called you, and you called it. He called him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. We were in Miami. Usher had a fucking show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny to shock the fuck with me about my memory,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have the most selective memory. When you asked me,

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<v Speaker 3>that shit came to me immediately. Me and John showed

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<v Speaker 3>up for Usher's show down here in Miami. John singles

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<v Speaker 3>Little John, Oh, Little John's litt John produced the.

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<v Speaker 2>Record, Little John's record. It's actually Little John's record.

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<v Speaker 3>So we came to his show and this nigga ushers like, nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>I got another one. I got another one for us.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, word, let me hear the ship. So

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<v Speaker 3>before he goes on stage, they let me hear, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, we out of here again. On a whole

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<v Speaker 3>other level, Yeah, it's fucking hunting something BPR Lovers and

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<v Speaker 3>Friends sixty something VP.

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<v Speaker 2>We out of here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nah, man making history with them them too, man,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the greatest brothers on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro for show.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's this man standing right in front of us making

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<v Speaker 1>incredible albums. I've never heard a mediocre album from this guy. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he is and he said that he said one time

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<v Speaker 1>that NA said that he was the best. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here to tell you I don't think Nas was gassing you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he came from from the heart because that's

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<v Speaker 1>who exactly who he is. So in case you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the fuck we talking about, we talking about the.

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<v Speaker 2>One only but school boy Q.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just tell you something, man, from the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>we started this show, we wanted to give your flowers

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<v Speaker 1>face to face man, and man, you are one of

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<v Speaker 1>the greats.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want anything that happen to you and then

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you you're great. We want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>while you are laky your flowers. Snoop Dogg said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a Snoop Dogg said, it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>A Grammy because it comes from his people. God damnit, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go. You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's so unique about you? Every time someone

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<v Speaker 1>asks you about la Yeah, you're always giving up game.

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<v Speaker 1>You are saying you're gonna watch that for this artist.

0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.040
<v Speaker 1>You gotta watch them for this artist. You always naming people,

0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:14.719
<v Speaker 1>You always showing loves to people, How did you develop that?

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<v Speaker 1>How does that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Once again, sports, I mean, and you know you gotta

0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.320
<v Speaker 5>show love to your teammates. You gotta show love to people.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you ain't good enough to hang like and

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<v Speaker 5>if you scared, somebody gonna take your positions, And it

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<v Speaker 5>was never yours in the first place. Looking at them

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<v Speaker 5>fall it was never his, I said down on the

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<v Speaker 5>last album too, Like if you fall, it was never

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<v Speaker 5>yours in the first place. If you let somebody knock

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<v Speaker 5>you out your position like you never had that position.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Once again, it goes all back down to discipline. Motherfuckers

0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.440
<v Speaker 5>ain't got no discipline, bro. So motherfucker see somebody gassing

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<v Speaker 5>going up and just hate for no reason.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like for what like he going up?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, because he ain't doing as many units as you.

0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.840
<v Speaker 5>It's like, bro, okay, and I put my units in

0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.399
<v Speaker 5>the fucking jay z and I don't even exist.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, what do we measure things?

0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.439
<v Speaker 5>But motherfuckers is hard like, he hard like he hard like,

0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.200
<v Speaker 5>just let it be, like, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So at some point, just if it's yours, it's yours,

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<v Speaker 5>and you ain't got to worry about ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, love shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>Another another thing about you is you have some of

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<v Speaker 1>the dopest features in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't watch a lot of cats. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 5>go about to go on another washing machine run.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been chilling for five.

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<v Speaker 5>Years, just watching them and observing and and like trying

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<v Speaker 5>to change my life and body and ship. You know

0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.040
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying, Get my body to the right point

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<v Speaker 5>where I want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm ready to play ball.

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<v Speaker 5>And and and just keep playing ball right now because

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're making it real easy for people like me.

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people are bad. What do

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people are good, But a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people are scared. I can't get record what

0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.080
<v Speaker 5>you saying. No, not just music musically period. A lot

0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 5>of people are scared to try anything. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 5>get it though. You know, at the same time, you

0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:15.320
<v Speaker 5>know business is business, right, and you know, but at

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<v Speaker 5>some point, if you ain't got what you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>out of this ship, you've been in this game like

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<v Speaker 5>X amount of years, you probably won't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's what's unique about this album.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you just said a lot of people are scared.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like you wasn't scared of like you were

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<v Speaker 1>taking risks, Like each song sound sounds like it's two.

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<v Speaker 2>Songs and onely different.

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<v Speaker 5>Sounds the same. Like what the fuck? What that was

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<v Speaker 5>the whole thing? Like how do I see music?

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Right now? Okay? So everything is thirty second clips? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Motherfuckers can't even pay attention to three verses anymore? Motherfucker

0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.879
<v Speaker 5>is doing one versus. It's like, all right, how do

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<v Speaker 5>I make this album in this time and still be me?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, oh, I see things in the way they

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<v Speaker 5>see it, fucking forty seconds, fifty seconds? If I can't

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<v Speaker 5>get what do I? How can I get off something

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<v Speaker 5>in thirty seconds? You know what I'm saying? Thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 5>at a time. How can I say as much as

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<v Speaker 5>I want in thirty seconds? If I can't say as

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<v Speaker 5>much as I want in thirty seconds, then I probably

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<v Speaker 5>shouldn't be doing this, this part of the beat shouldn't

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 5>be rapping or coming with this concept, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean. So it was just like, what can I

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<v Speaker 5>say an X amount of time? And from there and

0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.720
<v Speaker 5>how we just built the beats. We just built it

0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.800
<v Speaker 5>the beats. But the lyrics pretty much came first on.

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<v Speaker 4>This albumat changing up to that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it's like you know, and and still just

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<v Speaker 5>like shit, I want to do it like this, like shit,

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<v Speaker 5>why not Like my blank Face album, I did the

0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.920
<v Speaker 5>same thing. Like you know, I think, like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>just rap is just so kind of like and uh,

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.720
<v Speaker 5>it's so many of rappers now, and it's still hell

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 5>of good rappers, but it's just so many now. Me

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 5>doing beat switches, it's like mad people doing beat switches still,

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.400
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying. But and I've been doing it,

0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.960
<v Speaker 5>but you know what the game it is now, like

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<v Speaker 5>my should is standing out a little bit more with

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<v Speaker 5>it because of just the no risk taking of artists.

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 5>You know, they find they pocket and they stay in

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<v Speaker 5>that pocket. And like I said, that's cool if you're

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<v Speaker 5>in it for the business. But everybody I know is

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<v Speaker 5>a fucking millionaires. So at this point, so it's like

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<v Speaker 5>what the fuck are we doing now? Like we just

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<v Speaker 5>like making it worse for the younger kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 6>I think artists are scared to act their age and

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 6>it's weird to me, Like I'm thirty seven, bro, I'm

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.760
<v Speaker 6>not like scared to act thirty seven, like I'm still lit,

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<v Speaker 6>like I.

0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Can still do all the shit. Still I'll run young.

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.280
<v Speaker 5>And still I'll rap you whatever you real to talk about.

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm still way more funnier, did you, brother?

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.880
<v Speaker 5>I dress better, like I look back, getting younger every year,

0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 5>like you fuck, it's its own dope, you know what

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. Like so like I'm not scared to have

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<v Speaker 5>to live my age, like you know what I'm saying.

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 5>And I think a lot of artists are doing that,

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<v Speaker 5>and they doing the younger generation of disservice.

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Why She's like, it's the weirdest ship to me, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, that's another reason why I didn't even do

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<v Speaker 5>press before this album, because it's just like I don't

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.600
<v Speaker 5>fit with those dudes in the media. I don't even

0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't even funk with. They're just too negative for me.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's like y'all too old for all that. Y'all

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.159
<v Speaker 5>gotta watch y'all say, y'all can't really get hurt playing

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 5>with people. Bro, Like mootherfuckers is putting their life in

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 5>their music, Like you can dislike my music, but don't

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 5>disrespect me though, because I put my life and my

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<v Speaker 5>ship you know what I mean.

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 2>So when you disrespect me.

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 5>Or disrespect the rappers, that's how I feel like.

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna get at me eventually, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I got camaraderie still with rappers, even though you know

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 5>rappers don't half coaraderie, but I do. So if I

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 5>see somebody say some crazy crazy ship about a rapper,

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't fucking with you, like you know what I'm saying.

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, you can dislike it, yeah you problem. Yeah,

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 5>nobody tripping on that. But the way you motherfucker's a

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<v Speaker 5>really disrespect Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I ain't with it.

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 5>And everything is relationship based too, It's like that's not

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 5>how it's supposed to be either. So I'm just not

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<v Speaker 5>with none of it. I just want to go all

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.399
<v Speaker 5>gas and just keep gassing. I'm gonna keep gassing gas

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 5>and gassing, and they gonna come, they gonna come in

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.920
<v Speaker 5>the circles and I'm gonna keep gassing the ass.

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 2>And I got, like I.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, I got eighteen more to go, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>keep gassing as I'm gonna keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Jack in the Box on Vernon and

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:44.679
<v Speaker 1>figure bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Man that's man, you go, that's that Jack and

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 2>the crackstil there.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, it's there. Yeah, it's there. Vernon fit man

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<v Speaker 5>ain't no right, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move on from now from now.

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's that's yeah, that's you know, I forget

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 1>what kind of record you came up with over there.

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I forget. I was just going in through it.

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Move on your relationship with Mac Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, rest in peace.

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 5>How How did y'all meet? I met on tour. This's

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 5>another one that's hard to talk about to We met

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 5>on tour.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were just we just bonded off the rip.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying that as uh, just humans,

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 5>just people, you know what I'm saying. I thought he

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 5>was a funny ass white boy. He thought I was

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 5>a funny ass black dude. We just kicked it, you

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying. He was like transitioning his music

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 5>from like uh like white sounding like you know, poppy,

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 5>and he was going more towards rapping. He was like,

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, he had so much soul, you know, but

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 5>he just came in the game the way he came in,

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 5>and he was like transitioning. And I watched him do it,

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.719
<v Speaker 5>and it was just like, this dude is crazy and

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to, you know, stick around and be

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 5>his homie. I was just happy to be his homie.

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 5>That was my dog. That was like really my dog,

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 5>like you know, sad situation, but he's living forever. Though,

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 5>he's living forever. He's living forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a moment of silence, fam No, no, it was

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:38.919
<v Speaker 1>make some noise for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now you had a duct tail and the homie

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 2>cut off.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I got kicked out of school. This motherfucker

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 5>dude just light skinned.

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Fuck Okay. I wanted to know what the juntail is though,

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 2>all right, So man, you had a hair and call

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<v Speaker 2>it a tail?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, So this is this punk motherfucker dude.

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't even know his name. He wasn't even he

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 5>wasn't really my home. He was my homi kind of

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 5>hen't let it go, dough. I could tell.

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>I got kicked out and all type of ship. So

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 2>what happened? What happened? You in school? Gag? Yeah?

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 7>So I'm in school, bro, this motherfucker you know, you

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<v Speaker 7>know they do nap time.

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 2>This is like a kindergarten. Yeah. I fucked him over too.

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I fed him over. I choked him and Ship like he's.

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 5>Bleeding, and Ship was the first time I've seen him over.

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god.

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 7>But he cut my ducktail while I was sleep and

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 7>I woke up and yeah, and I just went to

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 7>go plug my ducktail and it wasn't there, and then

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 7>it was on his desk, Ship, and then he looked

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 7>at me and he kind of like.

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 5>Laughed, and I just beat the ship out of him.

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 5>Bing bing ban were like five, like five six whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>and then b b b Bean and I just plea

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<v Speaker 5>me in the craziest head. I was like trying to

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 5>snatch him out of the chair. I'm a little kid, bro,

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 5>and I just see him blood out and he just

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 5>yet and he's like yelling crazy like he's like you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying. I'm like, Ship, like when you

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:17.120
<v Speaker 5>started yelling crazy and Ship, I'm like, but the Yeah,

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 5>the teacher came in and uh broke it up. And

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 5>I was at like some like Catholic school or some

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 5>ship and she gave me a whooping like yeah, like hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Me like a ruler.

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<v Speaker 1>POWs fueh.

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess my mom didn't know they did that. There.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom came in and like, like she said, tripped

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 5>on the whole place, y'all, what my god, like had

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 5>a whole fit, and they like we gotta get him,

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 5>and his mom was just off the chain, like, y'all

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 5>get kicked me about that? Motherfucking I went to school fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Second fifty second, yeah.

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 5>I mean where I wanted to go in the first Like, let.

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Me, I'm just just right here on the corner. Just

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>let me go to school. My mama always tried to

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 2>do that weird shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, you can't go to school in the ghetto.

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 5>She will send me to some other school. And then

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 5>then eventually she sent me back to the school in

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 5>the in the ghetto, in the in the hood, And

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 5>it's like, why why you.

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Be doing that?

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 5>Though you send me to a whole other school that's

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 5>the same thing. You know, this is another ghetto.

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, like she I don't know why she would do

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that because I always wondered how you got the name

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>school boy? Right? But then I listened to your your lyrics.

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you have education. Yeah, yeah, for sure,

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>how did you get the name school boy?

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Literally?

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 4>All right?

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's like an atandra.

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 5>So the school boy is a pimp used to well,

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 5>I ain't gonna you know, well he used to be

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 5>a pimp back in the days. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 5>dude the name school boy from my hood. Okay, he

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 5>was dope. Dope dude teached him.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Also, it was at a.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 5>Point I had good grades and there was a point

0:28:58.680 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 5>where I had ship grades.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I leave that out a lot.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 5>But it was a point where I had really really

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 5>good grades and a lot of homies will call me

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 5>school boy because I was like really good in sports.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Grades.

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, good grades and like you know, always squabbling

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 5>and like not really like you know, from that cloth.

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>So they like, uh called me school boy. So it

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 2>was more so.

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 5>Like a playoff the pimp on fig and like me,

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 5>people calling me school boy for good grades and ship

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 5>being an athlete, you know, motherfuckers would encourage me like

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 5>to be take that take that sports.

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 7>Ship far, take that sports sportship far, because we gotta

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 7>go far.

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Because a lot of football didn't go too far. Yeah

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 2>you didn't go too far, Miami, Like y'all take football

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>very soon.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 5>For sure, baseball too. I was really nasty at baseball,

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 5>real nasty baseball. Yeah, shortstop Plato it was dog.

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Sh trophies and baseball having back.

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, got damn.

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 2>There's not one of.

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>The best, if not the best sports people period. I

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>hate when hip hop used this term goat, but in

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>this case it's an understatement. He's a mass man and

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I I was so excited. I've been sweating all day.

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So in case you don't know who I'm talking about,

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>what's about the one only legendary. Recently we had people

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>come on here right, you know, have a good time,

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>say something they don't want they don't want to say,

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and ask for us to edit it, and us, being

0:30:54.360 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>good people, we don't chase. But then these artists well

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>access to edit and then go on another platform and.

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Say what they told her that that should push you off.

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>What you should do. I'll be wanting to blow it up.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>What you should do?

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I should be like this, I will tell you that.

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you.

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 8>Let me listen eight years, but let me get as

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 8>a person that's been in media for thirty years.

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Let me give you a piece of advice.

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 8>So you want me to cut this out? You don't

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 8>want me to add this? You know I better not

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 8>see you saying this ship nowhere else right.

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say that.

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 8>You know that, right, because if I see it anywhere else,

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 8>I'm an eric. Do you understand me? So long as

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 8>you know, I ain't got no problems cutting this out,

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 8>especially if it's something that you think is gonna compromise

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 8>you gonna.

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Hurt your brand. We ain't trying to hurt you.

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<v Speaker 8>You're saying, but I better not see it somewhere else.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 8>If I see it somewhere else, oh, that just means

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 8>you want to give that to somebody else.

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Other than me.

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 8>But I got it already. Oh yeah, that shit tomorrow.

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 8>You understand I'm saying, and put the date when you

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 8>said it so everybody I.

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Had it first. Don't play that game. If you say

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you want it out, keep it out because.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen, there's certain things, you know, a code of the industry.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like you don't give somebody else editorial power. I've

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<v Speaker 8>had politicians, I've had, you know, a big time executives.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 8>I've had various others wanting to sit down and do

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 8>interviews with me, and I've canceled the interview because they

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 8>wanted editorial control. You're not getting editorial control of my content.

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 8>Don't come on and give me the content. I came

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<v Speaker 8>on here today. I told y'all y'all could ask.

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Me anything y'all want.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 8>That don't mean I'm gonna answer every damn Let me

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 8>assure you. What you want here from me is me

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 8>saying please do it, please edit that out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no no. I came here, I showed up.

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<v Speaker 8>I know you got critics that people gonna say, I'm.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Gonna get asked. I know how y'all wrote what I'm saying.

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>I knew what I was showing up for.

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<v Speaker 8>And a lot of times you got these cats and

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 8>they being run by their team, but they want to

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<v Speaker 8>act like they did and they being run by their team,

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 8>and their team didn't have any connection.

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<v Speaker 2>They create no kind of vib.

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 8>They talk to you man, the man, one on one

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 8>or whatever the case may be, and then they walk

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 8>around with their backup like somebody did them wrong instead

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 8>of owning what the hell they did.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my life right there where. It's like I'm constantly

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<v Speaker 2>the villain.

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<v Speaker 8>And I cannot tell y'all how many times, whether it's y'all,

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 8>I don't give a damn what podcast was show it is.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 8>I'll see some people say some shit it could be

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 8>on YouTube, it could be anywhere and my name come

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 8>up and they say something, and I'm like, how come

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 8>nobody asked would they say that to my face?

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Would they put their.

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 8>Truth up against my truth? Because we all got receipts,

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 8>but very very few people got as many as me,

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 8>And so I'm like, what. When I see people I'm

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 8>watching because if it's sports related, especially when they talk

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 8>about sports commentators and stuff like that, my name coming up,

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 8>I'm like, okay, and I'm wondering whether that person's gonna

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 8>call me or yo stephen a Yo man. They said something.

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 8>You see what I'm saying, because I'll have an answer.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 8>I promise you that. But I really get that opportunity

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.760
<v Speaker 8>and it's it's all right. But sometimes I say people

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 8>say stuff because they know they can get away with it.

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 8>They know they could get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But your name is so big. I can see why

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>certain people want to say your name.

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I can see why.

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Because it's a clickbait, even if it's not trying it

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>for it. Cause someone say I'm talking about steven A.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>They gonna they're gonna click on it. The name is

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:07.479
<v Speaker 1>a hot commodity. So is that something that bothers you

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>when you don't.

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<v Speaker 8>Get that call, when I don't get that call sometimes,

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 8>especially if it depends on the ship they're saying and

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 8>how personal it get, because I would, I would listen.

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I know what codes I live by. I know if

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>you're a player and you didn't get along.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 8>With the coach, it was because y'all were y'all were

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 8>y'all were doing the same woman, right, you know what

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 8>you're screwing around with a teammates girl or a teammate's wife,

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.240
<v Speaker 8>or you know you got in of this beef because

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 8>you know you tried to choke a coach or something.

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>You know you gotta you got. Well that's the trust me.

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 8>Well, but you know depending on rumors thinking about it.

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>You hear about that stuff every year every year.

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 8>Right, So you got all types of the kind of

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 8>stuff that I get access to, the kind of information

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.240
<v Speaker 8>that I get access to by virtue of what I do.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 2>For a living.

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 8>I promise you I don't say seventy percent of the

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 8>stuff that I know, Wow, seventy percent.

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 2>And so what happens is when you see cats and.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 8>You know they talking about your stuff like that, I

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 8>will remind you I've been in the business for thirty years.

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 8>I know about dudes who are talking about me and

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 8>they were filming a commercial in the off season in

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 8>Hollywood and not realizing I knew the damn producers. Wow,

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 8>you connected with cats in the hip hop industry. You

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 8>don't know I know them. You're what I'm saying, I mean,

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 8>don't listen. I'm not the expert, the officionado at that.

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 8>Like I like music, of course I did. I grow

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 8>on a product of the hip hop generation growing up

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 8>in Holland. Queen's jam Master Jay was best friends with

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 8>my late brother god Rest of Soul.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I grew up with run dmc. Soy they see me?

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 2>What do you say? A Hollid he sent was was

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 2>was you know down the block?

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 8>Ll who J grew up five minutes from your Pharma's Ball,

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 8>the Rock, the Rock, you know John Rule fifty, all

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 8>of these, I'm like, who you talking to? I'm seeing

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 8>I've seen these people years. I root for them all

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:16.839
<v Speaker 8>day every day. I'm proud of them because I look

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 8>at the road traveled and I know where they came

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 8>from to get to where they go. They always gonna

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 8>have my suppoint give damn who it is my man

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 8>should have. Yes, Yeah, you know, I just got form

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 8>with Snoop because I told her, Damn, I said, I have.

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 2>To prepare for the interview. I can what you did.

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like these these are my brothers.

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<v Speaker 8>They know you pick up the phone, stephen A, is

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 8>what what you need done?

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 2>That's you know.

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'm incredibly grateful and humbled and thankful that

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 8>I got relationships with such iconic figures.

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 2>You can't have.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 8>Relationships with those with cats like that. If you don't

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 8>live by a cold and you don't stand for ship,

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 8>and you're gonna trade people and you're gonna backstab, you

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 8>can't do that. So when you got cats in the

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 8>sports world trying to besmirch and sully my reputation, that

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 8>gets me hot because you're implying that I live by

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 8>a code that anybody who knows me knows I do

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 8>not live by. And so what happens is then I'm

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 8>watching everybody, because I will watch whether it's y'all or

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 8>somebody else, and I'd be.

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Like, you just gonna let them say that, You're gonna

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 2>let that slide. What evidence do you have to say

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 2>that shit about me? You know?

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 8>And you got to remember, I know of Athletic they

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 8>were main nameless, but I know the stars that spoke

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 8>to executives trying to keep me out of the business.

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, trying to get me.

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 8>Fired, trying to trying to deny what I'm bringing. And

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 8>then come and they won't say anything. I'm not gonna

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 8>cue a smiler in my face because they ain't that

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 8>flagrant with it. But they don't know that.

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 8>Like I told you before, you're filming a commercial, you

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 8>hanging out with your boys, you might be in a hotel,

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 8>you might be at a party or whatever. Yo, bro,

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 8>you ain't been I've been in this business for thirty years.

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I kind of know people. So it could be a week, lady,

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 2>it could be a month, lady, it could be that night.

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 8>It's gonna get back to me, and it ain't gonna

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 8>get back to me from Nay says that you know

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 8>I barely know. I'm talking about people that I know,

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 8>whose words I know I can trust. Yo, Stephen, Ay, Bro,

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 8>that ain't no friend. This is what he's saying about you.

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 8>This is what they trying to do. This is what happened.

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 8>And so I just sit back and I watch and

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 8>I pray, pray that they say something about me by name.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 8>Oh you don't know how to be praying for it,

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 8>because again, I can unleash at my discretion at any

0:39:55.960 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 8>moment if and I and I'm mostly no doubt because

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 8>I'm in corporate America and I grew up in corporate America.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 8>The freedom that y'all have in this in this podcast world,

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 8>that's something I just adopted. I never had to Stephen

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 8>A Smith show on YouTube that just started a year ago.

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 8>I don't you know, I wasn't doing that all of

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 8>these years.

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't. I said, what, thank you? I appreciated that.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't do you know? I just started

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:23.879
<v Speaker 2>doing that, and I didn't you.

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 8>Know you could call it a podcast because I got

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 8>to deal with our Heart Radio and they gonna push

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 8>that on their platforms.

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.439
<v Speaker 2>But out of my own pocket, I built.

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.359
<v Speaker 8>A television studio because my god, I came out.

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't a couple of mill out my own pocket.

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 8>I built this television studio because A I want to

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 8>show that I can produce television on my own, whereas

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 8>I'm not getting the check as an employee, I'm getting

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 8>the check. Is a production company because I'm producing content

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 8>and I'm getting that bag too, on top of me

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 8>being the talent. Oh by the way, not only am

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 8>I doing that, I own and operated one hundred percent.

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 8>Oh by the way, not only am I doing that,

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 8>but I'm doing it with the purpose of not just myself,

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 8>but looking for young talent on the come up that

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 8>I can produce years of years to come. Because I'm

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 8>fifty six. I ain't twenty six. I don't want to

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 8>do this shit in thirty years.

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 8>I want, I want and I want my legacy to

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 8>be somebody that's reaching out to help those on to

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 8>come up, so we can find we can find a

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 8>way to do that.

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Because everybody can't be you.

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 8>Everybody can't be you, everybody can't be me, but they

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 8>can be themselves in a fashion that's most profitable for them.

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 8>Show them the way and show them there's another I'm

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 8>not I'm corporate because I had to live in corporate

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 8>America for thirty years.

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I know who I am. You would said I know

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 2>what I am.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 8>When I take the suit off and I'm hanging in Hollis,

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 8>you have to say, say I'm.

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Hanging with the Fellas or something like that.

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 8>But you can't roll up with Bob IgA, the CEO

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 8>of Walt Disney and Jimmy Pataro, the president of the ESPN,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 8>and Roger Goodella NFL Commissioner, Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner.

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 8>You know, like you with the Fellas, it calls for

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 8>something different. Do you have the flex ability, the skill

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 8>to know how, the professionalism to be able to dance

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 8>in that world when you're not you or you or me?

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 8>And I'm the kind of person that thinks that I

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 8>could help. Is showing the way so that versatility kicks

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 8>in and you can show yourself to be marketable to

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 8>a whole bunch of people. People a lot of times

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 8>don't see that we encouraging young cats.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Man. Do what you want to do, when you want

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.399
<v Speaker 2>to do how you want to do it. Fuck everybody else.

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>But you got your hand out for somebody else's money.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 8>And that pisses me off because I'm like, yo, you

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 8>don't have to be a business owner.

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Tell me, even if you were on a street, hang

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>it with your boys.

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 8>If your boys came to you and said, yo, dog,

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 8>I need some money, you might give it to them.

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 2>The first time. Second time, you gonna be like, what

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>fuck you need it for it? Third time? Again? Again?

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Why you underste what I'm saying, and you're gonna want

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 2>to know what they're doing with it? You see what

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 8>But we act like we can encourage people to do

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 8>what they want to do, when they want to do

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 8>it how they want to do.

0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 2>When they got their hand out for somebody.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 8>Else's money, that number up for a dead end ride,

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 8>they're gonna fall. You can't operate that way. I'm the

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 8>kind of person that says that. And because I say that,

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 8>you got people that snub their nose up to get

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 8>their backup, They got an attitude all of this other stuff,

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 8>And I don't have patience for that because I'm like, yo,

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 8>I'm trying to help cats.

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 2>What you're trying to do when you're leading them down

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<v Speaker 2>to dead end road? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Like me?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? I did love and hip hop right, which is Viacom,

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<v Speaker 1>which is corporate America. I did it because I enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Working for somebody. I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I already know I'm the boss of whatever whatever my world,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to go into somebody else's world that

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<v Speaker 1>I could be accountable for not being on time. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be accountable for not showing up or things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I fully ensured that they didn't want to keep paying

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<v Speaker 1>me because I wanted more exactly, So we agreed to disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>But at times I always say that I'm good with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing what I got to do, and then

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<v Speaker 1>if I have to work for somebody else, I'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know who I am in real life. So is

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<v Speaker 1>that how you feel when it comes to first thing.

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<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't say when it comes to first take, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>because my weakness is I hate getting up in the

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<v Speaker 8>morning because once I'm up, I'm up. I don't take

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<v Speaker 8>naps and I stay up real late. I don't go

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<v Speaker 8>to sleep before two am. So because of that, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>up constantly, you know, and I'm on my grind. I

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<v Speaker 8>can't stand getting up early. That's the only hiccup in

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<v Speaker 8>my entire career. I'll turn down millions if you ask

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<v Speaker 8>me to get up at four or five am.

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<v Speaker 2>Help with it. I gotta to figure out something else,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. That's how I am. And that's been my week.

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<v Speaker 8>That's been my one weakness throughout my career throughout my life.

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<v Speaker 8>But I will tell you this, I've often said this

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<v Speaker 8>about working for Disney. It ain't perfect, right, Damn it

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<v Speaker 8>could be hard sometimes because they got a shareholders, stock holders,

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<v Speaker 8>all of that stuff, and you got to answer for that.

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<v Speaker 8>And when you're a major player, somebody that moves the needle,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know God has blessed me, I've been number

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<v Speaker 8>one for them for like eight nine years that level

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<v Speaker 8>in terms of moving the needle.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 8>I've often said this, I'd rather work for someone with

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<v Speaker 8>standards than someone looking for them. I can always make

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<v Speaker 8>the adjustment to being free and easy and not having

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<v Speaker 8>to answer to anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I had never had to answer to anybody.

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<v Speaker 8>And then all of a sudden I got to work

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<v Speaker 8>for somebody and work in corporate America, I'm a lost soul.

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<v Speaker 8>I ain't gonna not adjust. I'm not going to know

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<v Speaker 8>how to live that life. It's gonna drive me crazy.

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<v Speaker 8>But the fact that I have worked for The New

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<v Speaker 8>York Daily News, for the Philadelphia Inquirer, for CNN, Fox Sports,

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<v Speaker 8>ultimately ESPN, and Walt Disney, right because of that, especially

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<v Speaker 8>Walt Disney over the last twenty years. I'm in a

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<v Speaker 8>position where I've seen so much corporate and how strict

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<v Speaker 8>it can be and how paralyzing at times it can be,

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<v Speaker 8>that I can adjust to anything because it ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 8>be much tougher than that in terms of the standard. Right,

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<v Speaker 8>everything's gonna be a little looser, right, And as a result,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna feel more free no matter where you put

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<v Speaker 8>me right, and that gives me a decisive advantage moving

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<v Speaker 8>forward because I played the long game.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again. Thank you for tuning into the BLACKPEC Podcast Network.

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