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Speaker 1: Speaks to the plane in Charlamagne to God here and

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Speaker 1: as we come closer the closing out this year, I

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Speaker 1: just want to say thank you for tuning it into

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Speaker 1: the Black Podcast Network. There have been so many great

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Speaker 1: moments over the past year. Take a listen to some

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Speaker 1: of those captivating moments in this special best of episode.

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Speaker 2: He is the Man, here's my friend. He is a.

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Speaker 1: Legend of icon, a motherfucking tycoon. In case you don't

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Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, we talking about the one

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Speaker 1: and only impeccable Chris Love of Lover Lula.

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Speaker 2: Man, your career is just phenomenal. Right, thank you, bro?

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Speaker 2: When is the time?

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Speaker 1: Because I know for my own personal experience, sometimes I

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Speaker 2: The level where I want to get.

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Speaker 1: But there's so many people in this world that says, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: when was the time that you felt like, man, I'm here,

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Speaker 2: It was It was two different times.

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Speaker 3: So one, like I told you, I used to work

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Speaker 3: in that radio station and they never had us on

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Speaker 3: contracts because I was myself and a guy by the

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Speaker 3: name of pun Daddy were the youngest, the youngest guys

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Speaker 3: at the radio station DC Now, no, no, not that,

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Speaker 3: not that. So we were the youngest people at the station.

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Speaker 3: So basically everybody else had contracts at least year contracts.

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Speaker 3: So me and him, I'm like, again, I'm eighteen, so

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Speaker 3: I'm young as hell. I don't know shit. I'm just

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Speaker 3: seen hosting clubs. So since they didn't have us on

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Speaker 2: Jock type shit.

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Speaker 1: You're like, fine, shock jockshit shock jock is like doing

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Speaker 3: Talk about against the competitors. Suggest No, I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: The crazy shit is that at the end of the

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Speaker 3: day when I was when once your fantasy came out,

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Speaker 1: What talmow, tmaow, what's your fantasy came up while you're

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Speaker 3: So the whole story goes, I'm at this station and

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Speaker 3: into my own album. So I'm paying for all my

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Speaker 3: once I started put I put the shit out. But

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Speaker 2: Plan is in radio.

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Speaker 3: As you know, as time goes on, everybody at radio

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Speaker 3: on your station, other stations, my friends, so I had

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Speaker 3: So they started playing it. The ship gets instant reaction, obviously,

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Speaker 3: Symbolic as fuck? So the crazy shit is, you know

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to these motherfuckers, I'm losing every

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Speaker 2: Yet, so yeah, it's all good.

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Speaker 3: So I come around and finally, man, I make this

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Speaker 3: I'm specifically going in writing this ship, making it the

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Speaker 3: And then a funny story to that, I know, Shaka

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Speaker 2: I did it. I won. I literally set out this

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Speaker 2: Like, shut the fuck up, man, some of us didn't

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Speaker 3: I pulled the curtain back. This nigga justin Timberlake is

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Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm gonna say something else. We

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Speaker 2: That's some hard ship for a nigga to do. So

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Speaker 3: We talked all the ship that we had that was negativity.

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Speaker 1: Respect that because we asked him about you on the

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Speaker 1: Let's give some flowers, get some flowers, give some little flowers,

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Speaker 2: But let me just say that that means the world

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you who you are as an artist. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you who I was a person, but

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Speaker 1: In the flower that lady for you. You're the first

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Speaker 1: iteration case. Yes, because there's love of people but let

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Speaker 3: Are, tell me about myself, mother fucker, let's go.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear. There isn't There isn't.

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Speaker 2: You know how you like? That's love.

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Speaker 4: He's a You're a rappers rapper, That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just being honest with you. That means you

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if I said this earlier, but

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Speaker 1: have to embrace your character.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that leor was that Pharrell Leo Farrell? No?

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Speaker 1: But Pharrell was like no, but he really was like,

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Speaker 2: How buster embraces a character?

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Speaker 1: And I didn't understand because I was like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: what's your fantasy?

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Speaker 2: I was like, this guy's embracing his character.

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Speaker 1: He's doing exactly what Forrell. And by the way, throw

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Speaker 1: them bolls. I heard that beat, I heard this.

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Speaker 2: You gotta tell you what happened. The rumor is the

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Speaker 1: For twenty one years, I've been kicking my ass and

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Speaker 2: It was not for you, bro, it wasn't for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't for you. It wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Let me say, as you're giving me my flowers, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you band from TV, that ship changed my

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Speaker 2: My life.

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Speaker 3: So anything, look, anything you're giving me right now, DNA

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about throw them bolls. Oh, so the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is after and we had to literally turn

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Speaker 4: Im it's already death, not the independent version of what

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Speaker 2: No, this is death, jan this is one what version

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Speaker 2: This is the first album.

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Speaker 1: Fat Kevin, Fat Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Let's just be clear. It two different Kevin's. Yes, I Love,

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Speaker 4: Rob Love is doing the MARB. I had just started

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Speaker 2: South Florida Fantasy. Yeah, this project Lucros product. You don't

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Speaker 4: Look at that doc Freshman passages you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you go to the studio and then got

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Speaker 3: Brell got the beat Man, and I'm like, believe it

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Speaker 3: or not? Like I was saying earlier, sometimes you know

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Speaker 2: Did he start doing like this? Yeah? Of course you

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Speaker 3: Go in the car, like this is where I write

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Speaker 2: It's my car.

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Speaker 3: I always I write all of my ship in a car.

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Speaker 3: I love the fucking car. You got the surround sound.

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Speaker 3: five minutes to an hour. I had them verses. I

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Speaker 1: Are you fucking crazy out of here? It was that

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We was in Virginia at for Real Studio. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: I know that. Yeah, hell yeah. So that's how that

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Speaker 3: shit came about, man, And that's what that's what set

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Speaker 3: it off, because what's your Fantasy was for the ladies obviously,

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Speaker 2: Came out, it was a rap that was like the

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Speaker 3: That rounded everything out in terms of me being a

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Speaker 2: No you want you're a new artist, put you on

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Speaker 2: Death Jam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to me, the first Southern artist signed to

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Speaker 2: Like you said, you read this is what this is,

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Speaker 2: This is what I want to I mean, read from this.

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Speaker 1: But because what's Scarface already the president?

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Speaker 4: Nod you was.

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Speaker 1: Already shined to death Jam, and then they made Scarface

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Speaker 2: I want to say it happened like sign damnit Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because it was you first, and then that's when they

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Speaker 3: I think he was president. Like right before I got signed,

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Speaker 3: co signed yep, so Kevin and Scarface. I was their

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Speaker 3: first sign. Again you God, you had jay Z, had Joe,

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Speaker 3: So we were debating about, you know, whether this was

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Speaker 4: You have felt dope because regardless any hip hop had,

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Speaker 4: death Jam.

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Speaker 2: Is the mecca.

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Speaker 3: Listen, man, cool Jay changed my life. You must have

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Speaker 3: been like, man, I'm bad. That's that's the reason I'm

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Speaker 3: And I told this motherfucker he was there when I

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Speaker 3: Jan one. I was excited, but that was the only

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Speaker 2: But that ship worked out like a motherfucker. Hell yeah.

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Speaker 2: Would you ever do a residency?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we would love first presidency be in Vegas for sure.

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Speaker 2: Residencies just announce it. I know, Found Blue just opened.

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Speaker 3: Uh I currently have a deal in Vegas, so politically

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Speaker 2: But next time I'm on this won't be the last.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you're the deal is, let's go. Let's do that now,

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Speaker 1: Lovers and Friends. When I was on here, we were

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Speaker 3: That's a great thing. Ship Is that a great thing?

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Speaker 3: That's a great thing. A lot of people make babies.

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Speaker 3: What's your fantasy too? But y'all, no, Lovers and Friends.

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Speaker 3: We never shot a video for that shit ever. And

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Speaker 3: this record is huge, but till this day, I just

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Speaker 3: We always do Lovers and Friends and the whole crowd

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Speaker 3: sings the whole damn song. But that's that's a special

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Speaker 3: one right there, for sure. So where was you at?

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Speaker 3: Usher called you, and you called it. He called him.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. We were in Miami. Usher had a fucking show.

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Speaker 3: It's funny to shock the fuck with me about my memory,

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Speaker 3: but I have the most selective memory. When you asked me,

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Speaker 3: that shit came to me immediately. Me and John showed

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Speaker 3: up for Usher's show down here in Miami. John singles

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Speaker 3: Little John, Oh, Little John's litt John produced the.

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Speaker 2: Record, Little John's record. It's actually Little John's record.

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Speaker 3: So we came to his show and this nigga ushers like, nigga,

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Speaker 3: I got another one. I got another one for us.

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Speaker 3: I was like, word, let me hear the ship. So

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Speaker 3: I'm like, we out of here again. On a whole

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Speaker 3: other level, Yeah, it's fucking hunting something BPR Lovers and

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Speaker 3: Friends sixty something VP.

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Speaker 2: We out of here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nah, man making history with them them too, man,

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Speaker 3: some of the greatest brothers on Earth.

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Speaker 2: Bro for show.

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Speaker 1: Here's this man standing right in front of us making

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Speaker 1: incredible albums. I've never heard a mediocre album from this guy. Wow,

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Speaker 1: he is and he said that he said one time

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Speaker 1: here to tell you I don't think Nas was gassing you.

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Speaker 1: I think he came from from the heart because that's

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Speaker 1: who exactly who he is. So in case you don't

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Speaker 2: One only but school boy Q.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something, man, from the beginning

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Speaker 1: we started this show, we wanted to give your flowers

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Speaker 1: face to face man, and man, you are one of

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Speaker 1: the greats.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We don't want anything that happen to you and then

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Speaker 1: me tell you you're great. We want to say that

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Speaker 1: while you are laky your flowers. Snoop Dogg said, it's

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Speaker 1: like it's a Snoop Dogg said, it's like.

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Speaker 2: A Grammy because it comes from his people. God damnit, bro,

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Speaker 2: there you go. You know what?

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Speaker 1: You know what's so unique about you? Every time someone

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Speaker 1: asks you about la Yeah, you're always giving up game.

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Speaker 1: You are saying you're gonna watch that for this artist.

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Speaker 1: You gotta watch them for this artist. You always naming people,

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Speaker 1: You always showing loves to people, How did you develop that?

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Speaker 1: How does that?

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 5: Once again, sports, I mean, and you know you gotta

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Speaker 5: And if you ain't good enough to hang like and

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Speaker 5: if you scared, somebody gonna take your positions, And it

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Speaker 5: was never yours in the first place. Looking at them

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Speaker 5: fall it was never his, I said down on the

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Speaker 5: last album too, Like if you fall, it was never

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Once again, it goes all back down to discipline. Motherfuckers

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Speaker 5: ain't got no discipline, bro. So motherfucker see somebody gassing

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Speaker 5: going up and just hate for no reason.

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Speaker 2: It's like for what like he going up?

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Speaker 5: Oh, because he ain't doing as many units as you.

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Speaker 5: It's like, bro, okay, and I put my units in

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Speaker 2: So it's like, what do we measure things?

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Speaker 5: But motherfuckers is hard like, he hard like he hard like,

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Speaker 5: just let it be, like, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So at some point, just if it's yours, it's yours,

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Speaker 5: and you ain't got to worry about ship.

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Speaker 2: Sure, love shut up.

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Speaker 1: Another another thing about you is you have some of

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Speaker 1: the dopest features in the game.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 5: I don't watch a lot of cats. I'm about to

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Speaker 2: I've been chilling for five.

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Speaker 5: Years, just watching them and observing and and like trying

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Speaker 5: to change my life and body and ship. You know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Get my body to the right point

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Speaker 5: where I want to be.

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Speaker 2: But I'm ready to play ball.

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Speaker 5: And and and just keep playing ball right now because

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Speaker 5: I think they're making it real easy for people like me.

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are bad. What do

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are good, But a

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Speaker 5: you saying. No, not just music musically period. A lot

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Speaker 5: of people are scared to try anything. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 5: get it though. You know, at the same time, you

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Speaker 5: know business is business, right, and you know, but at

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Speaker 5: some point, if you ain't got what you're gonna get

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Speaker 5: out of this ship, you've been in this game like

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Speaker 5: X amount of years, you probably won't get it.

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Speaker 1: Because that's what's unique about this album.

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Speaker 2: It's like you just said a lot of people are scared.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you wasn't scared of like you were

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00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 1: taking risks, Like each song sound sounds like it's two.

443
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 2: Songs and onely different.

444
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 5: Sounds the same. Like what the fuck? What that was

445
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 5: the whole thing? Like how do I see music?

446
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 2: Right now? Okay? So everything is thirty second clips? Right?

447
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 5: Motherfuckers can't even pay attention to three verses anymore? Motherfucker

448
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 5: is doing one versus. It's like, all right, how do

449
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 5: I make this album in this time and still be me?

450
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, I see things in the way they

451
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 5: see it, fucking forty seconds, fifty seconds? If I can't

452
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 5: get what do I? How can I get off something

453
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 5: in thirty seconds? You know what I'm saying? Thirty seconds

454
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 5: at a time. How can I say as much as

455
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 5: I want in thirty seconds? If I can't say as

456
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 5: much as I want in thirty seconds, then I probably

457
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 5: shouldn't be doing this, this part of the beat shouldn't

458
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 5: be rapping or coming with this concept, you know what

459
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 5: I mean. So it was just like, what can I

460
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 5: say an X amount of time? And from there and

461
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 5: how we just built the beats. We just built it

462
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 5: the beats. But the lyrics pretty much came first on.

463
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 4: This albumat changing up to that makes sense.

464
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's like you know, and and still just

465
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 5: like shit, I want to do it like this, like shit,

466
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 5: why not Like my blank Face album, I did the

467
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 5: same thing. Like you know, I think, like I said,

468
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 5: just rap is just so kind of like and uh,

469
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 5: it's so many of rappers now, and it's still hell

470
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 5: of good rappers, but it's just so many now. Me

471
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 5: doing beat switches, it's like mad people doing beat switches still,

472
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But and I've been doing it,

473
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 5: but you know what the game it is now, like

474
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 5: my should is standing out a little bit more with

475
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 5: it because of just the no risk taking of artists.

476
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 5: You know, they find they pocket and they stay in

477
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 5: that pocket. And like I said, that's cool if you're

478
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 5: in it for the business. But everybody I know is

479
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 5: a fucking millionaires. So at this point, so it's like

480
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 5: what the fuck are we doing now? Like we just

481
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 5: like making it worse for the younger kids.

482
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: I think.

483
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 6: I think artists are scared to act their age and

484
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 6: it's weird to me, Like I'm thirty seven, bro, I'm

485
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 6: not like scared to act thirty seven, like I'm still lit,

486
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 6: like I.

487
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: Can still do all the shit. Still I'll run young.

488
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 5: And still I'll rap you whatever you real to talk about.

489
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm still way more funnier, did you, brother?

490
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 5: I dress better, like I look back, getting younger every year,

491
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 5: like you fuck, it's its own dope, you know what

492
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Like so like I'm not scared to have

493
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 5: to live my age, like you know what I'm saying.

494
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of artists are doing that,

495
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 5: and they doing the younger generation of disservice.

496
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: Why She's like, it's the weirdest ship to me, you know.

497
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 5: You know, that's another reason why I didn't even do

498
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 5: press before this album, because it's just like I don't

499
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 5: fit with those dudes in the media. I don't even

500
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 5: I don't even funk with. They're just too negative for me.

501
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 5: And it's like y'all too old for all that. Y'all

502
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 5: gotta watch y'all say, y'all can't really get hurt playing

503
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 5: with people. Bro, Like mootherfuckers is putting their life in

504
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 5: their music, Like you can dislike my music, but don't

505
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 5: disrespect me though, because I put my life and my

506
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 5: ship you know what I mean.

507
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: So when you disrespect me.

508
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 5: Or disrespect the rappers, that's how I feel like.

509
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna get at me eventually, you know what I'm saying.

510
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 5: I got camaraderie still with rappers, even though you know

511
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 5: rappers don't half coaraderie, but I do. So if I

512
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 5: see somebody say some crazy crazy ship about a rapper,

513
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 5: I ain't fucking with you, like you know what I'm saying.

514
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 5: Like I said, you can dislike it, yeah you problem. Yeah,

515
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 5: nobody tripping on that. But the way you motherfucker's a

516
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 5: really disrespect Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

517
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: And I ain't with it.

518
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 5: And everything is relationship based too, It's like that's not

519
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 5: how it's supposed to be either. So I'm just not

520
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 5: with none of it. I just want to go all

521
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 5: gas and just keep gassing. I'm gonna keep gassing gas

522
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 5: and gassing, and they gonna come, they gonna come in

523
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 5: the circles and I'm gonna keep gassing the ass.

524
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: And I got, like I.

525
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 5: Said, I got eighteen more to go, so I'm gonna

526
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 5: keep gassing as I'm gonna keep.

527
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jack in the Box on Vernon and

528
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 1: figure bro.

529
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: Oh Man that's man, you go, that's that Jack and

530
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: the crackstil there.

531
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's there. Yeah, it's there. Vernon fit man

532
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 5: ain't no right, man.

533
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: Let's move on from now from now.

534
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: But that's that's that's yeah, that's you know, I forget

535
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: what kind of record you came up with over there.

536
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: I forget. I was just going in through it.

537
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: Move on your relationship with Mac Miller.

538
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, rest in peace.

539
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 5: How How did y'all meet? I met on tour. This's

540
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: another one that's hard to talk about to We met

541
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 5: on tour.

542
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: And we were just we just bonded off the rip.

543
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that as uh, just humans,

544
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 5: just people, you know what I'm saying. I thought he

545
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 5: was a funny ass white boy. He thought I was

546
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 5: a funny ass black dude. We just kicked it, you

547
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. He was like transitioning his music

548
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 5: from like uh like white sounding like you know, poppy,

549
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 5: and he was going more towards rapping. He was like,

550
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 5: you know, he had so much soul, you know, but

551
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 5: he just came in the game the way he came in,

552
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 5: and he was like transitioning. And I watched him do it,

553
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 5: and it was just like, this dude is crazy and

554
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 5: I just wanted to, you know, stick around and be

555
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 5: his homie. I was just happy to be his homie.

556
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: That was my dog. That was like really my dog,

557
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 5: like you know, sad situation, but he's living forever. Though,

558
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 5: he's living forever. He's living forever.

559
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: Have a moment of silence, fam No, no, it was

560
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: make some noise for him.

561
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now you had a duct tail and the homie

562
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: cut off.

563
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I got kicked out of school. This motherfucker

564
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 5: dude just light skinned.

565
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: Fuck Okay. I wanted to know what the juntail is though,

566
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: all right, So man, you had a hair and call

567
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: it a tail?

568
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 7: Okay, So this is this punk motherfucker dude.

569
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: I don't even know his name. He wasn't even he

570
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 5: wasn't really my home. He was my homi kind of

571
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 5: hen't let it go, dough. I could tell.

572
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: I got kicked out and all type of ship. So

573
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: what happened? What happened? You in school? Gag? Yeah?

574
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 7: So I'm in school, bro, this motherfucker you know, you

575
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 7: know they do nap time.

576
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: This is like a kindergarten. Yeah. I fucked him over too.

577
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: I fed him over. I choked him and Ship like he's.

578
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 5: Bleeding, and Ship was the first time I've seen him over.

579
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god.

580
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 7: But he cut my ducktail while I was sleep and

581
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 7: I woke up and yeah, and I just went to

582
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 7: go plug my ducktail and it wasn't there, and then

583
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 7: it was on his desk, Ship, and then he looked

584
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 7: at me and he kind of like.

585
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 5: Laughed, and I just beat the ship out of him.

586
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 5: Bing bing ban were like five, like five six whatever,

587
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 5: and then b b b Bean and I just plea

588
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 5: me in the craziest head. I was like trying to

589
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 5: snatch him out of the chair. I'm a little kid, bro,

590
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 5: and I just see him blood out and he just

591
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: yet and he's like yelling crazy like he's like you

592
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I'm like, Ship, like when you

593
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 5: started yelling crazy and Ship, I'm like, but the Yeah,

594
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 5: the teacher came in and uh broke it up. And

595
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: I was at like some like Catholic school or some

596
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: ship and she gave me a whooping like yeah, like hit.

597
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: Me like a ruler.

598
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: POWs fueh.

599
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: I guess my mom didn't know they did that. There.

600
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 5: My mom came in and like, like she said, tripped

601
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 5: on the whole place, y'all, what my god, like had

602
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: a whole fit, and they like we gotta get him,

603
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 5: and his mom was just off the chain, like, y'all

604
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 5: get kicked me about that? Motherfucking I went to school fifty.

605
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: Second fifty second, yeah.

606
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 5: I mean where I wanted to go in the first Like, let.

607
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: Me, I'm just just right here on the corner. Just

608
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: let me go to school. My mama always tried to

609
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: do that weird shit.

610
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 5: Oh no, you can't go to school in the ghetto.

611
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: She will send me to some other school. And then

612
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 5: then eventually she sent me back to the school in

613
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 5: the in the ghetto, in the in the hood, And

614
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 5: it's like, why why you.

615
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: Be doing that?

616
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 5: Though you send me to a whole other school that's

617
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 5: the same thing. You know, this is another ghetto.

618
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Right, like she I don't know why she would do

619
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: that because I always wondered how you got the name

620
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: school boy? Right? But then I listened to your your lyrics.

621
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: I can tell you have education. Yeah, yeah, for sure,

622
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: how did you get the name school boy?

623
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: Literally?

624
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: All right?

625
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: So it's it's like an atandra.

626
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 5: So the school boy is a pimp used to well,

627
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna you know, well he used to be

628
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 5: a pimp back in the days. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,

629
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 5: dude the name school boy from my hood. Okay, he

630
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 5: was dope. Dope dude teached him.

631
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: Also, it was at a.

632
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: Point I had good grades and there was a point

633
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 5: where I had ship grades.

634
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: You know, I leave that out a lot.

635
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 5: But it was a point where I had really really

636
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 5: good grades and a lot of homies will call me

637
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 5: school boy because I was like really good in sports.

638
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: Grades.

639
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good grades and like you know, always squabbling

640
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 5: and like not really like you know, from that cloth.

641
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: So they like, uh called me school boy. So it

642
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: was more so.

643
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 5: Like a playoff the pimp on fig and like me,

644
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 5: people calling me school boy for good grades and ship

645
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: being an athlete, you know, motherfuckers would encourage me like

646
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 5: to be take that take that sports.

647
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 7: Ship far, take that sports sportship far, because we gotta

648
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 7: go far.

649
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: Because a lot of football didn't go too far. Yeah

650
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: you didn't go too far, Miami, Like y'all take football

651
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: very soon.

652
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 5: For sure, baseball too. I was really nasty at baseball,

653
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: real nasty baseball. Yeah, shortstop Plato it was dog.

654
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Sh trophies and baseball having back.

655
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, got damn.

656
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: There's not one of.

657
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: The best, if not the best sports people period. I

658
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: hate when hip hop used this term goat, but in

659
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: this case it's an understatement. He's a mass man and

660
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: I I was so excited. I've been sweating all day.

661
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: So in case you don't know who I'm talking about,

662
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: what's about the one only legendary. Recently we had people

663
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: come on here right, you know, have a good time,

664
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: say something they don't want they don't want to say,

665
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: and ask for us to edit it, and us, being

666
00:30:54,360 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: good people, we don't chase. But then these artists well

667
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: access to edit and then go on another platform and.

668
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Say what they told her that that should push you off.

669
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: What you should do. I'll be wanting to blow it up.

670
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: What you should do?

671
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I should be like this, I will tell you that.

672
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Let me tell you.

673
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 8: Let me listen eight years, but let me get as

674
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 8: a person that's been in media for thirty years.

675
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: Let me give you a piece of advice.

676
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 8: So you want me to cut this out? You don't

677
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 8: want me to add this? You know I better not

678
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 8: see you saying this ship nowhere else right.

679
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: I didn't say that.

680
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 8: You know that, right, because if I see it anywhere else,

681
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 8: I'm an eric. Do you understand me? So long as

682
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 8: you know, I ain't got no problems cutting this out,

683
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 8: especially if it's something that you think is gonna compromise

684
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 8: you gonna.

685
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: Hurt your brand. We ain't trying to hurt you.

686
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 8: You're saying, but I better not see it somewhere else.

687
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 8: If I see it somewhere else, oh, that just means

688
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 8: you want to give that to somebody else.

689
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: Other than me.

690
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 8: But I got it already. Oh yeah, that shit tomorrow.

691
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 8: You understand I'm saying, and put the date when you

692
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 8: said it so everybody I.

693
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: Had it first. Don't play that game. If you say

694
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: you want it out, keep it out because.

695
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 8: Listen, there's certain things, you know, a code of the industry.

696
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 8: It's like you don't give somebody else editorial power. I've

697
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 8: had politicians, I've had, you know, a big time executives.

698
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 8: I've had various others wanting to sit down and do

699
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 8: interviews with me, and I've canceled the interview because they

700
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 8: wanted editorial control. You're not getting editorial control of my content.

701
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 8: Don't come on and give me the content. I came

702
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 8: on here today. I told y'all y'all could ask.

703
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: Me anything y'all want.

704
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 8: That don't mean I'm gonna answer every damn Let me

705
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 8: assure you. What you want here from me is me

706
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 8: saying please do it, please edit that out.

707
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. I came here, I showed up.

708
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 8: I know you got critics that people gonna say, I'm.

709
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: Gonna get asked. I know how y'all wrote what I'm saying.

710
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: I knew what I was showing up for.

711
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 8: And a lot of times you got these cats and

712
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 8: they being run by their team, but they want to

713
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 8: act like they did and they being run by their team,

714
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 8: and their team didn't have any connection.

715
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: They create no kind of vib.

716
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 8: They talk to you man, the man, one on one

717
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 8: or whatever the case may be, and then they walk

718
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 8: around with their backup like somebody did them wrong instead

719
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 8: of owning what the hell they did.

720
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: That's my life right there where. It's like I'm constantly

721
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: the villain.

722
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 8: And I cannot tell y'all how many times, whether it's y'all,

723
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 8: I don't give a damn what podcast was show it is.

724
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 8: I'll see some people say some shit it could be

725
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 8: on YouTube, it could be anywhere and my name come

726
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 8: up and they say something, and I'm like, how come

727
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 8: nobody asked would they say that to my face?

728
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: Would they put their.

729
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 8: Truth up against my truth? Because we all got receipts,

730
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 8: but very very few people got as many as me,

731
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 8: And so I'm like, what. When I see people I'm

732
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 8: watching because if it's sports related, especially when they talk

733
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 8: about sports commentators and stuff like that, my name coming up,

734
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, and I'm wondering whether that person's gonna

735
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 8: call me or yo stephen a Yo man. They said something.

736
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 8: You see what I'm saying, because I'll have an answer.

737
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 8: I promise you that. But I really get that opportunity

738
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 8: and it's it's all right. But sometimes I say people

739
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 8: say stuff because they know they can get away with it.

740
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 8: They know they could get away with it.

741
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: But your name is so big. I can see why

742
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: certain people want to say your name.

743
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: I can see why.

744
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: Because it's a clickbait, even if it's not trying it

745
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: for it. Cause someone say I'm talking about steven A.

746
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: They gonna they're gonna click on it. The name is

747
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: a hot commodity. So is that something that bothers you

748
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: when you don't.

749
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 8: Get that call, when I don't get that call sometimes,

750
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 8: especially if it depends on the ship they're saying and

751
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 8: how personal it get, because I would, I would listen.

752
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: I know what codes I live by. I know if

753
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: you're a player and you didn't get along.

754
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 8: With the coach, it was because y'all were y'all were

755
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 8: y'all were doing the same woman, right, you know what

756
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 8: you're screwing around with a teammates girl or a teammate's wife,

757
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 8: or you know you got in of this beef because

758
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 8: you know you tried to choke a coach or something.

759
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: You know you gotta you got. Well that's the trust me.

760
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 8: Well, but you know depending on rumors thinking about it.

761
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: You hear about that stuff every year every year.

762
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 8: Right, So you got all types of the kind of

763
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 8: stuff that I get access to, the kind of information

764
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 8: that I get access to by virtue of what I do.

765
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: For a living.

766
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 8: I promise you I don't say seventy percent of the

767
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 8: stuff that I know, Wow, seventy percent.

768
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: And so what happens is when you see cats and.

769
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 8: You know they talking about your stuff like that, I

770
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 8: will remind you I've been in the business for thirty years.

771
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 8: I know about dudes who are talking about me and

772
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 8: they were filming a commercial in the off season in

773
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 8: Hollywood and not realizing I knew the damn producers. Wow,

774
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 8: you connected with cats in the hip hop industry. You

775
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 8: don't know I know them. You're what I'm saying, I mean,

776
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 8: don't listen. I'm not the expert, the officionado at that.

777
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 8: Like I like music, of course I did. I grow

778
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 8: on a product of the hip hop generation growing up

779
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 8: in Holland. Queen's jam Master Jay was best friends with

780
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 8: my late brother god Rest of Soul.

781
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: I grew up with run dmc. Soy they see me?

782
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: What do you say? A Hollid he sent was was

783
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: was you know down the block?

784
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 8: Ll who J grew up five minutes from your Pharma's Ball,

785
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 8: the Rock, the Rock, you know John Rule fifty, all

786
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 8: of these, I'm like, who you talking to? I'm seeing

787
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 8: I've seen these people years. I root for them all

788
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 8: day every day. I'm proud of them because I look

789
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 8: at the road traveled and I know where they came

790
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 8: from to get to where they go. They always gonna

791
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 8: have my suppoint give damn who it is my man

792
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 8: should have. Yes, Yeah, you know, I just got form

793
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 8: with Snoop because I told her, Damn, I said, I have.

794
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: To prepare for the interview. I can what you did.

795
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like these these are my brothers.

796
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 8: They know you pick up the phone, stephen A, is

797
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 8: what what you need done?

798
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: That's you know.

799
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm incredibly grateful and humbled and thankful that

800
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 8: I got relationships with such iconic figures.

801
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: You can't have.

802
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 8: Relationships with those with cats like that. If you don't

803
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 8: live by a cold and you don't stand for ship,

804
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 8: and you're gonna trade people and you're gonna backstab, you

805
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 8: can't do that. So when you got cats in the

806
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 8: sports world trying to besmirch and sully my reputation, that

807
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 8: gets me hot because you're implying that I live by

808
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 8: a code that anybody who knows me knows I do

809
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 8: not live by. And so what happens is then I'm

810
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 8: watching everybody, because I will watch whether it's y'all or

811
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 8: somebody else, and I'd be.

812
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: Like, you just gonna let them say that, You're gonna

813
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: let that slide. What evidence do you have to say

814
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: that shit about me? You know?

815
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 8: And you got to remember, I know of Athletic they

816
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 8: were main nameless, but I know the stars that spoke

817
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 8: to executives trying to keep me out of the business.

818
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: Oh wow, trying to get me.

819
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 8: Fired, trying to trying to deny what I'm bringing. And

820
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 8: then come and they won't say anything. I'm not gonna

821
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 8: cue a smiler in my face because they ain't that

822
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 8: flagrant with it. But they don't know that.

823
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: I know.

824
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 8: Like I told you before, you're filming a commercial, you

825
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 8: hanging out with your boys, you might be in a hotel,

826
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 8: you might be at a party or whatever. Yo, bro,

827
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 8: you ain't been I've been in this business for thirty years.

828
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: I kind of know people. So it could be a week, lady,

829
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: it could be a month, lady, it could be that night.

830
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 8: It's gonna get back to me, and it ain't gonna

831
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 8: get back to me from Nay says that you know

832
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 8: I barely know. I'm talking about people that I know,

833
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 8: whose words I know I can trust. Yo, Stephen, Ay, Bro,

834
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 8: that ain't no friend. This is what he's saying about you.

835
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 8: This is what they trying to do. This is what happened.

836
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 8: And so I just sit back and I watch and

837
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 8: I pray, pray that they say something about me by name.

838
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 8: Oh you don't know how to be praying for it,

839
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 8: because again, I can unleash at my discretion at any

840
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 8: moment if and I and I'm mostly no doubt because

841
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 8: I'm in corporate America and I grew up in corporate America.

842
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 8: The freedom that y'all have in this in this podcast world,

843
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 8: that's something I just adopted. I never had to Stephen

844
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 8: A Smith show on YouTube that just started a year ago.

845
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 8: I don't you know, I wasn't doing that all of

846
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 8: these years.

847
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I said, what, thank you? I appreciated that.

848
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't do you know? I just started

849
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: doing that, and I didn't you.

850
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 8: Know you could call it a podcast because I got

851
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 8: to deal with our Heart Radio and they gonna push

852
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 8: that on their platforms.

853
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 2: But out of my own pocket, I built.

854
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 8: A television studio because my god, I came out.

855
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: I can't a couple of mill out my own pocket.

856
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 8: I built this television studio because A I want to

857
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 8: show that I can produce television on my own, whereas

858
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 8: I'm not getting the check as an employee, I'm getting

859
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 8: the check. Is a production company because I'm producing content

860
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 8: and I'm getting that bag too, on top of me

861
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 8: being the talent. Oh by the way, not only am

862
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 8: I doing that, I own and operated one hundred percent.

863
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 8: Oh by the way, not only am I doing that,

864
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 8: but I'm doing it with the purpose of not just myself,

865
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 8: but looking for young talent on the come up that

866
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 8: I can produce years of years to come. Because I'm

867
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 8: fifty six. I ain't twenty six. I don't want to

868
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 8: do this shit in thirty years.

869
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

870
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 8: I want, I want and I want my legacy to

871
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 8: be somebody that's reaching out to help those on to

872
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 8: come up, so we can find we can find a

873
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 8: way to do that.

874
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: Because everybody can't be you.

875
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 8: Everybody can't be you, everybody can't be me, but they

876
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 8: can be themselves in a fashion that's most profitable for them.

877
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 8: Show them the way and show them there's another I'm

878
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 8: not I'm corporate because I had to live in corporate

879
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 8: America for thirty years.

880
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: I know who I am. You would said I know

881
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: what I am.

882
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 8: When I take the suit off and I'm hanging in Hollis,

883
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 8: you have to say, say I'm.

884
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: Hanging with the Fellas or something like that.

885
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 8: But you can't roll up with Bob IgA, the CEO

886
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 8: of Walt Disney and Jimmy Pataro, the president of the ESPN,

887
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 8: and Roger Goodella NFL Commissioner, Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner.

888
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 8: You know, like you with the Fellas, it calls for

889
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 8: something different. Do you have the flex ability, the skill

890
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 8: to know how, the professionalism to be able to dance

891
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 8: in that world when you're not you or you or me?

892
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 8: And I'm the kind of person that thinks that I

893
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 8: could help. Is showing the way so that versatility kicks

894
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 8: in and you can show yourself to be marketable to

895
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 8: a whole bunch of people. People a lot of times

896
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 8: don't see that we encouraging young cats.

897
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: Man. Do what you want to do, when you want

898
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: to do how you want to do it. Fuck everybody else.

899
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: But you got your hand out for somebody else's money.

900
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 8: And that pisses me off because I'm like, yo, you

901
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 8: don't have to be a business owner.

902
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: Tell me, even if you were on a street, hang

903
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: it with your boys.

904
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 8: If your boys came to you and said, yo, dog,

905
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 8: I need some money, you might give it to them.

906
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: The first time. Second time, you gonna be like, what

907
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: fuck you need it for it? Third time? Again? Again?

908
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: Why you underste what I'm saying, and you're gonna want

909
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: to know what they're doing with it? You see what

910
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

911
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 8: But we act like we can encourage people to do

912
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 8: what they want to do, when they want to do

913
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 8: it how they want to do.

914
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: When they got their hand out for somebody.

915
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 8: Else's money, that number up for a dead end ride,

916
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 8: they're gonna fall. You can't operate that way. I'm the

917
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 8: kind of person that says that. And because I say that,

918
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 8: you got people that snub their nose up to get

919
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 8: their backup, They got an attitude all of this other stuff,

920
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 8: And I don't have patience for that because I'm like, yo,

921
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 8: I'm trying to help cats.

922
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: What you're trying to do when you're leading them down

923
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: to dead end road? Right?

924
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: Like me?

925
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: Right? I did love and hip hop right, which is Viacom,

926
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: which is corporate America. I did it because I enjoyed.

927
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Working for somebody. I enjoyed it.

928
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: I already know I'm the boss of whatever whatever my world,

929
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: but I wanted to go into somebody else's world that

930
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: I could be accountable for not being on time. I'd

931
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: be accountable for not showing up or things like that.

932
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: And I enjoyed it.

933
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: I fully ensured that they didn't want to keep paying

934
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: me because I wanted more exactly, So we agreed to disagree.

935
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: But at times I always say that I'm good with,

936
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, doing what I got to do, and then

937
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: if I have to work for somebody else, I'm okay

938
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: with it.

939
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: Right.

940
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: I know who I am in real life. So is

941
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: that how you feel when it comes to first thing.

942
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 8: I wouldn't say when it comes to first take, you know,

943
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 8: because my weakness is I hate getting up in the

944
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 8: morning because once I'm up, I'm up. I don't take

945
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 8: naps and I stay up real late. I don't go

946
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 8: to sleep before two am. So because of that, I'm

947
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 8: up constantly, you know, and I'm on my grind. I

948
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 8: can't stand getting up early. That's the only hiccup in

949
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 8: my entire career. I'll turn down millions if you ask

950
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 8: me to get up at four or five am.

951
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: Help with it. I gotta to figure out something else,

952
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: you know. That's how I am. And that's been my week.

953
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 8: That's been my one weakness throughout my career throughout my life.

954
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 8: But I will tell you this, I've often said this

955
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 8: about working for Disney. It ain't perfect, right, Damn it

956
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 8: could be hard sometimes because they got a shareholders, stock holders,

957
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 8: all of that stuff, and you got to answer for that.

958
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 8: And when you're a major player, somebody that moves the needle,

959
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 8: and you know God has blessed me, I've been number

960
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 8: one for them for like eight nine years that level

961
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 8: in terms of moving the needle.

962
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 2: Here's the deal.

963
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 8: I've often said this, I'd rather work for someone with

964
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 8: standards than someone looking for them. I can always make

965
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 8: the adjustment to being free and easy and not having

966
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 8: to answer to anybody.

967
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: But if I had never had to answer to anybody.

968
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 8: And then all of a sudden I got to work

969
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 8: for somebody and work in corporate America, I'm a lost soul.

970
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 8: I ain't gonna not adjust. I'm not going to know

971
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 8: how to live that life. It's gonna drive me crazy.

972
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 8: But the fact that I have worked for The New

973
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 8: York Daily News, for the Philadelphia Inquirer, for CNN, Fox Sports,

974
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 8: ultimately ESPN, and Walt Disney, right because of that, especially

975
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 8: Walt Disney over the last twenty years. I'm in a

976
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 8: position where I've seen so much corporate and how strict

977
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 8: it can be and how paralyzing at times it can be,

978
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 8: that I can adjust to anything because it ain't gonna

979
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 8: be much tougher than that in terms of the standard. Right,

980
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 8: everything's gonna be a little looser, right, And as a result,

981
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 8: I'm gonna feel more free no matter where you put

982
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 8: me right, and that gives me a decisive advantage moving

983
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 8: forward because I played the long game.

984
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: Once again. Thank you for tuning into the BLACKPEC Podcast Network.

985
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