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Speaker 2: No, I'm all good, let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be the only intro I read off

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Speaker 3: too important. So Anthony Rizzo, David Ross, Tom Ricketts kills me.

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Speaker 3: Say Tom, Welcome back to another episode of the Level

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Speaker 3: of Reunion. Today we have our most important guests of

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Speaker 3: them all, the man and family who had a vision

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Speaker 3: today I'm gonna call you Tom. Hey. Thanks, Thanks, Welcome

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful intro. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time calling you Tom. And I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go back to that if you want. Now,

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Speaker 2: Uh no, it's yeah, a lot of guys. It's kind

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Speaker 1: I think when the boss man walks in, though, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Do you ever think like when you came to my

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Speaker 3: Is there ever a time you thought I paid for this? No,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, I appreciate it. That's nice. So the dream

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was up on your wall.

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Speaker 3: That you met CC here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I met my wife and the bleachers. Wow, true story.

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Speaker 3: It was a beer choice. It was a old style back.

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Speaker 2: Taste of Lincoln Avenue. You know, we're going to taste

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Speaker 2: There's fifty thousand people. There are twenty thousand people there.

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Speaker 2: a respectful kind of that's kind of a cool way

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good first date.

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Speaker 1: We got got a cool story coming back now and

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Speaker 2: One day her friends bought, you know, bought some bleacher

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Speaker 2: July twenty nine anniversary. Go sit in the front row.

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Speaker 2: Now they've rebuilt the bleachers twice since then, so so

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Speaker 2: But you guys when you guys came back on opening

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Speaker 2: was it before opening?

435
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Christmas walking?

436
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,919
Speaker 2: Remember that that was that was so pathetic.

437
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Speaker 1: I think I've got video on my phone. Everybody had

438
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Speaker 1: their videos. I just like that place was amazing.

439
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think, I mean in terms of

440
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 2: in terms of you know, I thinks that were desperately needed.

441
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,359
Speaker 2: I think that was number one. I mean, you can't

442
00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 2: tell everyone they're at a first class organization and then

443
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 2: you know, tell here's your third class facilities. So in

444
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 2: spring training, you know, that's the best spring training by far,

445
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,359
Speaker 2: Like we crush everyone in spring training. I think the

446
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 2: signature move there came from my wife and she's like

447
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 2: more shade, and we're very proud of we most shade

448
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,120
Speaker 2: of all the spring training.

449
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,680
Speaker 3: I never thought of our valiches so okay, it was

450
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 3: her first genius call.

451
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes a big difference to people.

452
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 1: When it's a packed place too. I look on now,

453
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, sitting back, you look at it, it's like

454
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 1: it's like spring training. It is the spot to be

455
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 1: in spring training too. It's like it's sold out.

456
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Speaker 2: We're in our own categories.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah by far in a different way. Speaking

458
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 3: of spring training, And I did forget to set the scene.

459
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 3: We are at the most iconic sports venue in the world,

460
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 3: Wrigley Field, in Tom's office. God, it kills me to

461
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 3: say Tom Ricketts in his suite overlooking the stadium, and

462
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 3: it's amazing.

463
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: But why is it? I had this one just because

464
00:19:54,600 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 1: it popped in. You buy the Cubs, you're you and

465
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: your family only goes you walk in the first time

466
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 1: as an owner. Like what like that's got to be

467
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 1: just like chills.

468
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 2: Well, you know, yeah, certainly. Well so one of the

469
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 2: things we were coming up to that that very first

470
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Speaker 2: opening day. You know, it's like the Brewers on April second,

471
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: twenty ten or whatever it was, and I'm like, what

472
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: am I gonna do? So with like a week before,

473
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, I got it. So I told Lorraine, my assistant,

474
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 2: who you know, well, hey, print me a dozen baseballs

475
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: with the date on and do it for every home game.

476
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 2: And so every more, every every game, I get, you know,

477
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: twelve baseballs and they say April second comes versus Brewers,

478
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: and tomorrow's April third, and and so it gave me

479
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get out and just talk to people.

480
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 2: For a couple of reasons. One is like, you know,

481
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 2: if you're at Wrigley Field, then you're just you're up

482
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: in a box, like you know, like you're just hiding

483
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: from the fans. You're kind of missing the point. It's

484
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: a social place. Everyone's having a good time. Everyone is

485
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: in their happy place, and you want to be part

486
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Speaker 2: of that. And then secondly, you know, I think there's

487
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: there's a presumption about you know, ownership that like you

488
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: you don't care. It's about the money, it's about your ego,

489
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: and you know, and I just want to get out

490
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 2: and talk to people. You know, the baseball is a

491
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: great way to break the ice. Give it to your kid,

492
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: talk to their parents. You get some advice on some

493
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: things you could do better around the ballpark, Like you

494
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: can't hear the radio in the women's room or something like.

495
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: Those are things that naturally I wouldn't hear about. So

496
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes I get real advice, so that that's

497
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: really important. And you know, you also just don't want

498
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: to be like one of the NFL guys with the

499
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: tie up in up in up in the upper up

500
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Speaker 2: in the suite.

501
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 3: And almost like a mythical Yeah, well I just lording

502
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 3: over the you.

503
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: Know, it's separate. Well you are a fan again, going

504
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: back to like you know what that's like.

505
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 3: Not only did you do that, you do that to

506
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 3: this Tom does that to this day every single game. Right,

507
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 3: you're passing it. He's going up usually to the upper.

508
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: Decks, the upper jacks.

509
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: Right and handing out baseball. You just that's that's one

510
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 3: of one. No someone else does that. There's I can

511
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: guarantee it well.

512
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: And it's kind of in those first couple of games,

513
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: it was people were like didn't know what to do

514
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: or should we do, you know, do a photo or

515
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: make a comment or whatever. But like now I'm pretty

516
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: much everyone sees me at every game, so it's just

517
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 2: pretty natural and just go try to find it.

518
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 3: I think it was for me as a player, it

519
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: was so cool being on the on deck, like your

520
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 3: your seats are right there on our on deck circle.

521
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: And seeing you there with a beer in your hand,

522
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: enjoying the game with your family, with your kids was

523
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: just as a player seeing that, I thought it was

524
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: the coolest thing that you were so accessible. Because in

525
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: spring training every year Tom would address the team and

526
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: he talked about family and culture, and I remember you

527
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 3: are first spring training you talked about charity and giving

528
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: back and giving back to the fans, and that's when

529
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: I was going through opening starting my own charity. And yeah,

530
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: I remember going into your office and like terrified. I

531
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 3: was twenty two years old, twenty twelve, I believe the

532
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: end twenty twelve, and I asked you. I was like, hey,

533
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: mister Ricketts, like I really want to start a charity.

534
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 3: Can you help me? And without your blessing, like the

535
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 3: Cubs charity team was amazing, but you've helped me now

536
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: raised over close to thirty million dollars because you said

537
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: yes and put the stamp of approval. And it's just

538
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: how many lives you've changed outside of the game, especially

539
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: through your own own Cubs charities, has just been incredible.

540
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: Well, what you what you've done with your foundation is

541
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: in its own category as well. Pretty pretty incredible, And

542
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: I think it was also nice because, like you know,

543
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,239
Speaker 2: the teams kind of go inside goles a little bit.

544
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: We try to not have that happen, but it typically

545
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: tends to happen anyway. So like the guys for like

546
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: the Good eight and nine teams were kind of like

547
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: moving on, and you know, they had some charitable efforts,

548
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 2: and then we went through a couple of years where

549
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: not a lot of the guys knew they'd be here

550
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: very long, honestly, so like you know, they were just

551
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: just trying to get established, and so we didn't have

552
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: a lot of players doing a lot of community things.

553
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: And then when you came through in like twenty fourteen,

554
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen and started doing it, and then the other

555
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: guys had you know, we brought in some guys already

556
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: had their foundations, like Leicester and those guys, but then

557
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: you encourage other guys to do it and it became

558
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: part of the team culture in that era and just

559
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: you know, and like someone went.

560
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: To more events in twenty sixteen and fifteen and sixteen

561
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: when I was here that I've been with any teams.

562
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean we had you know, Lester's event at jose

563
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: On Weed, your event, the cook Off, I mean all

564
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: the stuff that we convention a big martin. Yeah, like

565
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: it was bricks and Ogriculture are off. Days were usually

566
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: a nice party that somebody was throwing and braising a

567
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: ton of money.

568
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't know, you guys can answer

569
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: this question better than me, but it can't hurt the

570
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: culture to be able to everyone get together at height

571
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: just for a quick beer. And you guys you always

572
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: had an area where it wasn't too uncomfortable with the

573
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: fans totally, and I think it was. That was a

574
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: great ra for us in terms of community for sure.

575
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of those, A lot of those wise

576
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: I moved on. A lot of those can be like irallly,

577
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 3: oh I have to go to this event, right, But

578
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: when we were doing it, even the bricks and ivy

579
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 3: was like, it was so much fun.

580
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: It was fun.

581
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: It was just some huge party. Usually we would win

582
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: well early on, we didn't win a lot of games,

583
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 3: but when we were rolling, we would always usually come

584
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: after a win or something and it just be a

585
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: fun I.

586
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: Only know winning when I got Harry kind of yeah, right,

587
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: I don't know about the dusk days speak speaking of

588
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 1: a guy it's got a lot of wins on his belt.

589
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: Tell me about hiring theo Epstein and you get to

590
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: interview whoever you want, pick whoever you want. That's the

591
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: guy you selled on. How did he How did he

592
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: impress you? Was his resume obviously what he already did

593
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: spoke for itself. But tell me a little bit about.

594
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: So that was so when I think one of the

595
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: better decisions that that we made coming in his ownership

596
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: was to not like change everything right away. You see

597
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that come in and they want

598
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: to bring in you know, their their own people right away,

599
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: and and you know and try to change you know,

600
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: kind of like get off to a fast start or

601
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 2: something like that. I mean I got some advice actually,

602
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: Jerry Ryan gave me good advice, like said, I don't

603
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: worry about that stuff. Just get you get your deal done.

604
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: You've got plenty of time to think about that. And

605
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: and so when when we got in, you know, we

606
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 2: had a business leadership, which is Crane who's still here,

607
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: who's I think the best team who was amazing as well,

608
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: who's you know, as good as it gets. Crane been

609
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: here twenty some years, yeah, a long time, predates me

610
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: for by ten years anyway. And then so I would

611
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: give give those guys a shot and see how they do.

612
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: And obviously they you know, we brought in some new

613
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: people to help him, but performed extremely well. And then

614
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: Jim Henry was our GM who who I love still love,

615
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: was a great guy, was so so good to me,

616
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: like you know, like in terms of when I would

617
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 2: go to all the minor league parks every year. You know,

618
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: he'd send sends his guys with me, or he'd answer

619
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: any question anytime. He was so available and so great.

620
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: But but at some point it was like, well, I

621
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: think there's there's kind of a wave of of like

622
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: just the wave of gms that are just kind of

623
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: doing things a little more sophisticated in a more sophisticated manner,

624
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: and we probably we should try to get on that wave.

625
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: And and so, you know, you let him go. And

626
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: and what I did, I actually did a like this

627
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: super secret I made a list of twenty people I

628
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: wanted to talk to, you know, no no no candidates,

629
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: just people like a couple, a few agents, a few

630
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: former gun asks for former players. Uh, you know, Billy

631
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: Bean sat down with me for like three hours during

632
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: that's so cool. We did it a secret meeting and

633
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: some hotel like conference room, because we did I didn't

634
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: want to be seen at lunch and start the rumor mill.

635
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: But like so I just went around, I was talking

636
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: to I went around just as secretly as possible. I

637
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: did even let Lorraine know where I was. I just

638
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: don't anyone to know where I was because I didn't

639
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: want any rumors. And of course all that really was

640
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: at a great, great use of my time because the

641
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: most obvious person was THEO, because during that process, he

642
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: basically made it clear he wasn't going to be at

643
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: the Red Sox. You know, at the end after the year,

644
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: he was going to just leave and exercise is right

645
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: to leave. So you know, then you go through a

646
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: process like you you have to pay a form more question.

647
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: John Henry called me said, I know you want to

648
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: talk to THEO. I don't think he's really going to leave,

649
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: but I'll let you talk to him. And so I

650
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: called him the next morning and I said, let's meet

651
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: in New York tonight. We have an apartment in a

652
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: family as an apartment in New York. Let's just meet

653
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: in New York. I'll just because I can't go to

654
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: BC with you in Boston or Chicago, that's pretty weird.

655
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: We just want to have a discrete meeting. And so

656
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: we met at our place in New York, and really

657
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: the first thing out of his mouth was, Hey, look,

658
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: everything you're reading about, you know, my success, it's it's

659
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: not me. It's a whole bunch of people. And like,

660
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: you know, and and he really like, I think that

661
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: my my image is overinflated. It's it's not what you think.

662
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: And then we talked for three or four hours, and

663
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: by the end of that I was kind of like, Okay,

664
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: well this guy's got game. And obviously his records spoke

665
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: for itself, and that's incredible.

666
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: I just showed Rassi a video and I'll have to

667
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: throw it up of my high school swing and speaking

668
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: of THEO saying it's a team of people. Las Gutier's

669
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: was my scout from the Red Sox that Keo hired

670
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: under Jason McCleod right and Jed So it's like that

671
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: whole team and they saw something in me where I

672
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: still asked j mac all the time, I'm like, dude,

673
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: what did you see in me?

674
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Because video I'm like, that's not ugly.

675
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: If you look at any of my high school videos,

676
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: it's terrible. I show Happer all the time and he's like,

677
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: how did you get drafted? Right? But again that team

678
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: of people that is hired underneath the baseball.

679
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: Charge and you guys know so well, like what you

680
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: know what I learned later, you know, as I got

681
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: to know THEO work with him for all those years,

682
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he was he was he was sufficient

683
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: in the quantitative skills, but he was he was superlative

684
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: in the personal skills, understanding people, an incredible communicator, just

685
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: a person that like, you know, he can he can

686
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: just get he has credibility with you immediately and whether

687
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: you're a player or an agent or an owner or

688
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: a fan whatever, Like when he talks, you listen because

689
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: he's he's like he really understands the game, he understands

690
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: what you're concerned with, and ultimately like just has also

691
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: just a really high EQ. And so I think that so,

692
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: you know, that was something as I got to appreciate

693
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: over time, because if you just read like oh it's all,

694
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: it's all moneyball stuff or it's all Bill James, that's

695
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: only a little piece of it in that package.

696
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: When you guy, he comes in and you guys have

697
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: to pretty much tear it down right, and and and

698
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: and to the plan and lost the.

699
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: Whole stadium almost flipped over, fell over. At one point

700
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: we turned the roof.

701
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, chunk of the roof and blowing off this

702
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: this this could have tipped over. But anyway, keep going, No, I.

703
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: I didn't have the you know, he talks about how

704
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: grinding it and how much more rewarding was when we won,

705
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: but like going through the hundred loss seasons and like

706
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: just some of some of that to and and as

707
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: an owners stay true to like, Okay, this is the plan.

708
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was tough, Like we sat down,

709
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: we had to be really honest about the fact that

710
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: we had we had some great players there were towards

711
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: the end of their careers. We didn't really have a

712
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: wave of young players that could take their place and

713
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: make us competitive. And you know, we just had to

714
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: be honest with ourselves about we were going to have

715
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: to like prioritize future wins over current wins. And then

716
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that we did that.

717
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: You know, maybe other clubs do now, but a certainly

718
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: a large market club that never done is just be

719
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: honest with the fans as well, and just go out

720
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: and say, hey, look, I can't we can't deliver overnight results,

721
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: like we're gonna have to build this brick by brick.

722
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to be thoughtful and consistent and just

723
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: bring in one piece at a time and when it's

724
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: when it's time, you'll know it. And and so the

725
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: trades obviously, you know, trading for for for riz, but

726
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, like the draft and we drafted, well, we

727
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: got a couple of guys out of the draft, just like

728
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: you know, you know, the area to trade. I mean,

729
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: there were a whole bunch of little things that happened

730
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: over those years that just just put little pieces into

731
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: the puzzle. And then obviously, like you know, by by fourteen,

732
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: it was starting to feel like the team's got a future.

733
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: And then obviously by the middle of fifteen, oh yeah,

734
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: it was.

735
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell him, I knew this team. I was in

736
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Boston in fourteen when Jake almost threw that no hitter

737
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: in Boston, and I remember thinking, I was like, who

738
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: is this guy and these guys, and I went into

739
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: free agency that year and signed here in fifteen. But

740
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: that's I was like, they've already got one ace because

741
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: I played that day and I didn't have a chance,

742
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: which was most days in my career, but it was

743
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: it was definitely, you've got okay if they get Lester

744
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: and Area, there's two aces right there.

745
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: And then, well, we were building before that. And it's

746
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: not about me.

747
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: I say this in every episode he makes about him.

748
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: I was the first trade in twenty twelve. I stunk

749
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: in San Diego. So the fact that THEO went out

750
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: and traded for me was for me was like the

751
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: most incredible thing ever. Because I'm an East Coast biased

752
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: guy and I got drafted by the Red Sox and

753
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: I get traded out West and then I get to

754
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: the Cubs. I'm my own O. My gosh, Rookie of

755
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: the Year is my favorite movie growing up, right, So

756
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: I remember coming here for the first time. But in

757
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: spring training, Jeff Baker goes to me, hey, riz, uh

758
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: you better, uh, you better pan out. Andrew Kashner's throwing

759
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: a hundred in Padres camp. No pressure, kid, and like,

760
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: that's me on the ass, and I'm.

761
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: Like, oh shit, what was the first round pick? Yeah,

762
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: he was a stud high ceiling. I mean he had

763
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: he struggled with injuries, but he he had some he

764
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: had he had a high ceiling.

765
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: And he was stud great dude too.

766
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: And you had all these guys coming in. You went

767
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: through the tough times. When did you feel I guess

768
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: fourteen you're saying started to turn around, But did you

769
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: when did you feel like, man.

770
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: We're pretty darn good.

771
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I felt like the loser part, lovable

772
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: loser stuff started to leave in fourteen a little bit.

773
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: You know, there's games like your game in Cincinnati where

774
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: you tried to fight the whole bench.

775
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people claim that's the big moment.

776
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: That's a moment.

777
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: It is kind of It is kind of an inflection

778
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: point in like when you know, like if a team

779
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, you kind of feel like if the team

780
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: is not gelling enough that they don't care if they lose,

781
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: or they don't care if their players are disrespected on

782
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: the road or whatever. Like that's when you got it,

783
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: you know, when the team started standing up for itself

784
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: a little bit. Is is it personally and both as

785
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: an organization and then going into fifteen, every one felt okay.

786
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: But obviously it was like, you know that that series

787
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: against the Giants that like were like, holy cow, like

788
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: this team's real. And then I forget what the win

789
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 2: forty three of the last sixty one games or something.

790
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: Wow we did that.

791
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: It was actually I don't know.

792
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: We caught we call them. Yeah, we definitely caught fire

793
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: and we swept the Giants here. Yeah, I remember that well.

794
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: Then bringing it and then obviously bringing in, you know,

795
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: bringing in Lester, like that was the first commitment to

796
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: the fans that we think we can win this year,

797
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: like the first time anyone because because you know, we

798
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: had some guys we brought in in you know, eleven, twelve,

799
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: and thirteen, but they were the fourteen and they did

800
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: you know, they were solid players, but not the kind

801
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: of guys you expect to see in the playoffs.

802
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: Tell me about it, Tell me about signing Johnny that's

803
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: that had to be your first big free agent huge.

804
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of fun. So uh so I'm uh,

805
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: we set up a dinner so it feels like, you know,

806
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: we're recruiting John Lester. You gotta come, come, you know,

807
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: you gotta come meet him. And I'm great, Great, So

808
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm driving down and calls me on myself phone, Hey,

809
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: what's going with you? Hey, we're at the dinner. Lester's

810
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: gonna be here with his agents. You're gonna sit right

811
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: across room. Okay, great. He doesn't talk much. I'm like,

812
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: what do you mean doesn't talk? He does, so I'm

813
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: gonna have to sit in silence across from It turned

814
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: out we sat down and we talked the whole day,

815
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: but talk the whole night, Like but but I was

816
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: talking about his fishing on his ranch, you know, fishing

817
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: on his farm, you know, and like things are you know,

818
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: just guy stuff, you know, and and talking about he

819
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: had just gone and shot a buffalo or something. We

820
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: raced those. You can you can have all you want shooting.

821
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: But anyway, so anyway, so we got a lot really

822
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: well and that that dinner was great. And then at

823
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: the end of that dinner was towards the end, he

824
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: was like, oh, hey, Tom, there's one thing that really

825
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: can serns me. You know what's that? John? You know,

826
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: I just don't want to be the old, only old

827
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: guy on the team. And I'm like, wait, you're thirty one,

828
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: that's not that old. Like how like, well, I don't know.

829
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: I just'd be nice to have another veteran presence in

830
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: there in there and I'll talk to the about it.

831
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know that boy, I like that.

832
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: So what was that all about. He's like, yeah, he

833
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: wants to sign David Ross.

834
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: Idiot?

835
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: I what? Well? ROSSI and I had met that that

836
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: off season and we first time we really sat down

837
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: and talked, and I told our agent we had the

838
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: same agent. I was like, David Ross is exactly what

839
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: we need. We need that that veteran leadership like that,

840
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: and then we get Joe Madden. Then we signed John

841
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: Lester and then you come in. And I remember in

842
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: the twenty fifteen Cubs convention, I was in a gym

843
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: doing one of the Cub's caravans and I said to

844
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 3: the media, We're going to win the division this year,

845
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: like out of the blue, and everyone was, what are

846
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: you doing. I'm like, we're going to be good because

847
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: in fourteen we made the trades after we traded for

848
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: Addison Russell, we traded away Samarja for Addison Russell. I

849
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: remember that shifting. We were in Oakland and we were set.

850
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: THEO was like that that's it, that's the last time

851
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 3: we're selling, and you felt it. And then the off

852
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: season the momentum kept going and then you bring in

853
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: the pieces and we just went on that run in

854
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: fifteen and then obviously we were heartbroken, but going to

855
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: the sixteen we had we were yeah.

856
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: Well and and so that night guys gonna believe And

857
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, what was it all about? Oh yeah, hate

858
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: David Ross and like the time we had well into

859
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: Castillo or something. Well, and he was a great guy,

860
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: and I was he was starting to you know, he

861
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: had potential, Like is he like is he right handed

862
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: or left handed?

863
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Right handed?

864
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: Like it's a bad match.

865
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: He was like, uh, you know, he's more of a

866
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: defensive catcher.

867
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: Fact, I don't even know how I'm even on this podcast,

868
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: but it's like it cracks me up. They're looking back

869
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: at my career and being on some of these teams

870
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: and like the nice things that these guys have about me,

871
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: and obviously like you get to go through all that,

872
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: but like John was a big, like big piece of

873
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: my career obviously and taking me along for some you know,

874
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: two rings and being a part of that. But yeah,

875
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: it's like funny to hear everybody's story. Everybody said, I'm

876
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: this nice, lovable guy, but all the stories or me

877
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: beeing an asshole somehow on the field or in the dugout. So,

878
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: but we brought up Joe Madden for a second look

879
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: him back. What kind of impact do you feel like

880
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: as a manager, because you've had a bunch of different managers,

881
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: what impact do you feel like was special that he

882
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: was able to do for a lot of winning here?

883
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean, I think what Joe brought,

884
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, in addition to all of his baseball knowledge

885
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: and all the fun stuff he did on the field

886
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: and moving people around and keeping guys loose, like he

887
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: never bought into the like the curse stuff like he

888
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: kept everybody loose, like you know, and you can you

889
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: can talk to dem the guys that played in O eight.

890
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: That was one hundredth anniversary, right, and and it was

891
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: like such the everybody talked about it and even like

892
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: it just even people in the work oranization talked about

893
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: it like, so, I think, you know, the last thing

894
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: in the world you need is your manager to to

895
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: like make that any worse than it has to be,

896
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: and I thought Joe di of the opposite. He kept

897
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: you guys loose and you did fun stuff, you know,

898
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: and like he he had enough of a personality that

899
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: when you know, like when there was a bad game,

900
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: he could just go out and talk about something to

901
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 2: the media and it all kind of went away from

902
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: us and it was a good game. He'd give you

903
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: guys credit. So no, I think I think he was.

904
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: I say that all the time people talk about the

905
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: curse and all these things, we ever canvas like, I

906
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: never felt that in the clubhouse because we felt like

907
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: we were our own little well.

908
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: The culture shifted because of you and your leadership team.

909
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: We had roundtable meetings at the end of every single

910
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: year where THEO and Tom would come down and they

911
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: would ask for the players advice of what do we

912
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: need to be better? How do we however we become

913
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: the best and a lot of them were for the

914
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: early years. Was me just blabbing because I was the

915
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: only constant here. And then as years later it became

916
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: the cathedral that it is. But all of that when

917
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: into the culture shifting of when I first got here,

918
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: it was, oh, well, that's the way we've always done it,

919
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 3: and I remember looking at Otis rest in peace, Tom Hellman,

920
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: our old clubhouse manager, and I go, Otis, I go,

921
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: don't you think we should fucking switch it up? We

922
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: hadn't won in one hundred years? What do you mean

923
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: this is the way we've always done it? And he's like, oh,

924
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: I never thought about that. I would do that.

925
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 2: Fans had come up to me and be like, hey, Rickets,

926
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: you're screwing this all up, and I'd be like, who whoa,

927
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: whoa whoa. Okay, you might be right, but answer me this,

928
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: which is your favorite championship nineteen oh seven or nineteen

929
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: oh eight?

930
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm like what.

931
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you holding on to?

932
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: Right? What are you clinging to? Here?

933
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 3: Yeah?

934
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, we gotta do some stuff that's different.

935
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: That's funny, yeap, Because well, when we started winning and

936
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: the culture really started shifting, the expectations weren't well, just

937
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: wait till next year, right, That's always the phrase fifteen

938
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: going to the sixteen, it was no, we're winning. It wasn't.

939
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: You didn't hear you know, I didn't hear Danny Mueller,

940
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: our clubhouse attenant now saying oh, we're gonna wait till

941
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 3: next year. It was no, we're going to win the

942
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: World Series this year, and that was real expect.

943
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: The two championship teams I've been on, they talk about

944
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: winning in like they're not talking about how long it's

945
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: been since we haven't won it, talking about why we

946
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: were winning. And we had that here with this culture.

947
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: I think to your point, Joe had such a great

948
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: way of handling the media that we never had really

949
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: any outside distractions. We were kind of our own little unit.

950
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: And then did you feel that you came down to

951
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: the locker room some like you're around that. I mean,

952
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: you've won a different vibe with the sixteen team.

953
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that. I think everyone it

954
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 2: was kind of a wire to wire kind of season.

955
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you got outa got off to a good start.

956
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: Obviously a few near misses towards the very end there,

957
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: but like, I mean, it was it was expected. It

958
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: really was.

959
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: You needed, you know, go out and sign j Massive,

960
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: signing Lackey, Zobrist right, three more pieces re signed Decks

961
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: late or early in spring training, which was the one

962
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: we were kind of missing that leadoffs Bot going in and.

963
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: Then fifteen died hard. Fifteen was tough, but if everybody, everybody,

964
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: I think everybody's ready for sixteen and hit the ground run.

965
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: Feel like the team was a success though when you

966
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: step back obviously, like oh god, yeah, yeah, we're loving

967
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: that right, like from where we were at.

968
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the fifteen playoffs, like you know we

969
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: went uh, you know we obviously that game in Pittsburgh

970
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: was insane, insane.

971
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: I think that's the single biggest And this is like

972
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: obviously I'm not a Cups historian like you are and

973
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: know all the back that the history, but that game

974
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Jake Area had a pitch in that environment and we

975
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: was winning that game, to me is one of the

976
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: biggest wins for this organization maybe ever.

977
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: Just like fun undoubtedly and leading up to that, you know,

978
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: all the media meeting, what.

979
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: Do you what do you think when you see that? Like,

980
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: what do you think when you're seeing players do bone

981
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 3: head things? And you're you're the owner, right so you're

982
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: almost from a distance, what are your what's your opinion

983
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: on all of that? I don't know.

984
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I want guys to be themselves

985
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: and I don't honestly, like of all the all there

986
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: through all the years, there's been very very few things

987
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: that the players have done that I think are truly

988
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: bone headed. I think most of the guys have always

989
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: been smart and respectful and thoughtful about what they say

990
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: and do and and I think that's you know, impart

991
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: in baseball because a lot of times before you're actually

992
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: someone in the media wants to talk to. In baseball,

993
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: you're a little older, you've been around a while, you're

994
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: twenty five or twenty six. You're not, you know, in

995
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: some of the other sports, your stars when you're nineteen

996
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: or twenty and so your point little people, I think

997
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: people little more grown up and have a little more perspective.

998
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: And then the other thing about you know, my observation

999
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: on baseball is like guys do not try to pull

1000
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: themselves too far out of the team that everybody wants to.

1001
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: They don't want the individual attention like they might look

1002
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: for in other sports. So but but yeah, so I

1003
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: remember Chake, just think it doesn't matter what they think or.

1004
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have any pet peeves watching as a fan,

1005
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: like if something goes astray in the game, is there

1006
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: something that irks you more than others?

1007
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: What's your what's your fandom like, is it like you know,

1008
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: uh errors, like what's your fandom when you're like, what

1009
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: are we doing?

1010
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's like the mental mistakes, like you know,

1011
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: when when someone throws the wrong base or something, you're

1012
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: just kind of.

1013
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: Like or base running. I used to come in and

1014
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: tell me it's like Tom's dis about the base running,

1015
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: Like I'm on it, I'm on it.

1016
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: I'm like it's there, you know, Like I I keep

1017
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: it all in perspective, I think in general, but sometimes

1018
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: you're just kind of like, okay, you even playing this game

1019
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: that you were five, you know, like yeah, yeah, totally,

1020
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: and like but you know, in the moment, it's in

1021
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: the moment, but.

1022
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: You're a fan. But that's what I think. What's great

1023
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: about kind of being a fan is like having still

1024
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: seving some of that. That's what's nice to sit down

1025
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: and talk to you is because it's so like everybody

1026
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: has players perspective or managers or coaches, but like owners

1027
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: perspective a little different, especially here with you and and

1028
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: and you being coming from your background of being a

1029
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: fan and invested in the team and in the seats and.

1030
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: Being seen coming get to my wedding, dancing at my wedding.

1031
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: I have pictures like I pictures the whole crowd and

1032
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: like you're dancing right in the middle like the owner

1033
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: of Chicago Cubs. My boss is at our wedding right

1034
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: And coming to the charity events and being available I

1035
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: thought was so special, Like I said, and in the

1036
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: seats with your kids sitting there. I remember giving Cole

1037
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: or Quinn, I gave him ship. They one year they

1038
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: came in a Smoky's Tennessee Smokey jers. I'm like, what

1039
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: the hell is that and missed Thompson right there, and

1040
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: then the next day as a Rizzo jersey on it.

1041
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: For years he's wearing a Rizzo jersey, and then all

1042
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: of a sudden he wore Hobby jersey one day and

1043
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: I saw it because I always looked on the on

1044
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: deck circle and I was like, really happens that quick?

1045
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 3: And the hobby became his fairit. But just you being available,

1046
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: I thought was so important for our young team to

1047
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: not feel that pressure. There were so many pieces. Joe

1048
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: nothing the pressure. You never put pressure on us from

1049
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: the outside of like we need to win this year.

1050
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: It was a process and we stuck to that process.

1051
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: You got any superstitions when you watch games superstitions. No,

1052
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: not not really, there are I do believe that you

1053
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: don't talk about like with all the World Series stuff

1054
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: was going down, Like I don't talk about that, man,

1055
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: don't chink it.

1056
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: Don't chink it.

1057
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: Don't chink it. Like I'm like, we're not gonna know,

1058
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about the parade, Like we're

1059
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: not going to pre plan that stuff, like like some

1060
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: people in the down in the org. Yeah, actually because

1061
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: it takes more than a day to do that. But

1062
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: like I'm like, no, leave me out of those meetings.

1063
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about I'm not talking about celebrations or

1064
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: championships or anything like that. You know, just leave me out.

1065
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: Well, when we get to the playoffs in twenty sixteen,

1066
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: we go through. The whole year really started at the

1067
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 3: All Star break. You charted us two planes, which owners

1068
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: at the time did not do. I think you were

1069
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: one of the first to charter all the All Star

1070
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: Games two planes. I think they're both G five's six

1071
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: is so thank you, right, eight or nine players with

1072
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: seven seven sorry, and we had all our families on

1073
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: there and it was so awesome. And then we get

1074
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: to the playoffs and we have a round table meeting

1075
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: about the playoffs, and Tom is so generous flies all

1076
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: of our families on separate planes to and from all

1077
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: the series and let us still be you know, the

1078
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: boys on the plane. And that was such a big

1079
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: help too. And then we get to the playoffs, go

1080
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: to the NLDS, which was a wild series out in

1081
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: San Francisco. We come back here and clinch. How much

1082
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: did that mean? Clinching here to go to the World Series?

1083
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: Was that? I mean, that's a dream come true in

1084
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: its own?

1085
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was a crazy day. The Yeah,

1086
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: that was amazing to get back to the World Series.

1087
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: In that game that Kyle pitched such a great game

1088
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: against the Dodgers all night, and because we had a

1089
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: couple of those games early on that we just didn't hit.

1090
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were down to one and that, yeah, that

1091
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: it got.

1092
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: A little nervous, nervous in La. But the funny one

1093
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: of the funny stories for that night was Crane is like, hey,

1094
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: you know, if we win tonight, we get a trophy

1095
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: on the field, there's a there's a celebration and I'm like,

1096
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. He's like, you want to hear

1097
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: anything about now, don't tell me anything about it at all.

1098
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I'm like, if it happens, it happens, I'll

1099
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: figure it out, grab it out. So then so the

1100
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: game's over and like I think it's Fox or whoever

1101
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: that the broadcasters set up like a little little platform

1102
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: on the field and walk out, and you know, they

1103
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: hand me this this like trophy and it's it's like

1104
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: this trophy. It's like it and it weighs like forty

1105
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: pounds or something. And the next day my brother calls

1106
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: me and says, hey, Tom, you can't say fuck on

1107
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: national television. And I'm like, well, that's fine because I

1108
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: did not say fuck on national television. And he goes

1109
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: go back and read your lips because and you hear

1110
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: me going this things fucking. And then I'm trying to

1111
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: give it to THEO or Crane, but they're playing the

1112
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: NHL superstition where you don't touch that trophy because you're

1113
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: still going on. So then I'm just sit there holding

1114
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: it and someone from Fox is like, here's here's another

1115
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: thing for your trophy case. And I'm like, hey man,

1116
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: we're the Cubs. We don't have it trophy case.

1117
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: Like this is this is our first one in a

1118
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: long time.

1119
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that one was like that one's like a

1120
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: traveling trophy, like like your kids had with their you know,

1121
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: like the kids do that, and like it has like

1122
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: you know, the different teams written out over the years.

1123
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: And I think I think we still have that one

1124
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: because they canceled. They went on to like a trophy

1125
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: you can keep when you win the pennant.

1126
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: Now, oh, you don't get to keep that trophy.

1127
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: I think we got. I think we may still have

1128
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: that one somewhere. But they went they moved on to Yeah,

1129
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: they moved on to letting.

1130
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: Letting somebody. How about the party after that outside of

1131
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: Wrigley I mean, obviously it got better and we'll get

1132
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: to that, but to go to the World Series clinching

1133
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: at Wrigley Field first the Dodgers.

1134
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: And all that stuff, it's just just amazing.

1135
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: Well, we messing up that brand new clubhouse, absolutely destroying.

1136
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: That What was what were your I want to know

1137
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: what your pregameer so games like?

1138
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: But we did and we we didn't leave the ball

1139
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: short of the cup on the pre gaming like we

1140
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: we got all all our friends, like we took over

1141
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 2: one of the rooftop buildings with one of the one

1142
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: with the beautiful apartment you.

1143
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: Guys, Oh yeah, the one you let me stay in

1144
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: during COVID.

1145
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so we take that over, invited a

1146
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: couple hundred people and uh, and it actually it helped

1147
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 2: me during the playoff runs that that I had so much.

1148
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: There was a lot of planning, Like getting everybody's tickets

1149
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: was something you had to spend some time on, and

1150
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 2: then just planning the parties and getting everybody together, telling

1151
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: everyone where to meet, making sure that all the nieces

1152
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: and nephews were taking care of that kind of stuff.

1153
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: It like consumed a lot of my day just making

1154
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: sure all that stuff was the logistics were done. And

1155
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: but we we had our parties across the street and

1156
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: and and we went back there after and that that Uh,

1157
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: I think that game I think was pretty much an

1158
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: all nighter for us.

1159
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: That was like that was for us definitely for us, definitely.

1160
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: Right going back and you know that one, and then

1161
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: the Game five of the World Series was another one

1162
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: that was just went on all night.

1163
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: That was that was that we were going to talk

1164
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: about that with you're.

1165
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: Down three to one, We're down three to one. Right,

1166
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: we're going to the World Series. We're down three to one.

1167
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: Where what's the owner's mindset? Down three to one? Game

1168
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: five here, my favorite game? What amazing?

1169
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: We had two games here ready, and we had we

1170
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 3: haven't had games here? How many years? Fifty plus, I

1171
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: think it was. I haven't won a game here. We

1172
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 3: get to game five, we win. That's the only game

1173
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: we won, had home the only World Series game probably

1174
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: ever won in Wrigley, I think.

1175
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: Well, no, in nineteen forty five, that's right.

1176
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: It was forty five. That's got forty five and.

1177
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: There was a few, yeah, few teams for that, but

1178
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: still yeah. I remember coming in for game five and

1179
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: our party a little you know, our cocktail parties across

1180
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: the street, and sitting across the street from our our

1181
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 2: rooftop is the MVP car. Oh no, we news tonight

1182
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: and that goes home with Jason Kloer ithing I don't.

1183
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: Know, and I'm like, that's not if you don't need this.

1184
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: That was the first bad omen for the Indians.

1185
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: I don't need to see that car. And but you

1186
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: know what's funny like that night, I know if you

1187
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 2: guess Charlie Jones from the music movie producer, music producer,

1188
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: colle producer, good buddy, you know, and he was there

1189
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: with Houston Street of all people, the player and he said,

1190
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: we're at my party, and he's like, hey, Tom, don't

1191
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: worry about it. You know, guys think they can always

1192
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: win three in a row. Four in a row sounds

1193
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: pretty hard, but everybody's everybody thinks they can win three

1194
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: in a row. You guys are fine. And I'm like,

1195
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna believe you, man. And but I

1196
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: did also think, like, god, if we get through tonight,

1197
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: you know, we have Jake going in Game six and

1198
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: then it's anybody's.

1199
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. That game was insane. And then Chapman throwing

1200
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: I think two and a third or three and a

1201
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: third to get us there.

1202
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: That was.

1203
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: That was. That game was my favorite game other than

1204
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: Game seven, because winning here the first game here, I

1205
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: don't know if you felt it, but I felt the

1206
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: energy was just and now granted we didn't give fans

1207
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 3: much to cheer about, but I felt like the first

1208
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: game was just so mild.

1209
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, playoff playoff fives are a little bit different, and

1210
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: I agree with that game in particular, but in the

1211
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: games in eight which you guys weren't at but like

1212
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: it was a little tense, Like everybody is a little

1213
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: tense until you kind of break the radio, break the

1214
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: damn and start you score a couple of runs. Then

1215
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 2: suddenly everybody's cheering and going nuts.

1216
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: And but yeah, I think we did give them not

1217
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: cheer about so we did in game five, Game five

1218
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: that way.

1219
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: So Game five I remember leaving here and like we're

1220
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: gonna roll. Game six, We're gonna do it. And then

1221
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: game seven is a crap show and we go to

1222
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 3: game six, win it and.

1223
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: Taken everybody you took you know, Oh that's right, let's

1224
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: not forget.

1225
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: Not only are the families you flew, correct me if

1226
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, every pretty much every Cubs employee. Two Yeah, Cleveland.

1227
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: Pretty much took the whole front office. Yeah, serious games.

1228
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: I give give give Crane and the business guy's credit

1229
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: for that idea. They came in, Hey, we can't leave

1230
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: anyone behind that. I'm like, of course not, Let's just

1231
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: let's just do it.

1232
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: That's so awesome. So before game seven, what's what's your.

1233
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, where are you? What are you doing? Where'd you want?

1234
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: Like? What what's the party? Is it? The same businesses.

1235
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 3: Usually we got to keep the party going.

1236
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: Well, you know what we did. It was actually kind

1237
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: of worked out. Cleveland was the perfect spot for us too,

1238
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: because it was kind of funny that I'm looking for

1239
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: a place for a pre game in Cleveland and you know,

1240
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: my since calling around and of course no one's gonna

1241
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: let a bar we have a Cubs party at your

1242
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: bar before the four World Series game in Cleveland. And

1243
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: then I called my neighbor and I'm like, dude, you're

1244
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: from Cleveland, you got to help me out. And he's like,

1245
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: I'll make some calls. So he actually had a few

1246
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: of his friends who live in Cleveland start calling around places.

1247
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: And it turns out there was a hotel like two

1248
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: or three blocks from from the ballpark that had just

1249
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: pretty much opened and they had a rooftop deck and

1250
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: no one had booked it. So we booked that for

1251
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: all the games. And the first couple of games the

1252
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: weather was kind of crappy.

1253
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: If it wasn't, it was a very.

1254
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: Those but those last couple of games in Cleveland, the

1255
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: pregame was was great. So now I had a great

1256
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: time with those games. We it was it was hard though,

1257
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: like uh, like, well, we the way they set us up,

1258
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: we have the whole family. So I got myself and

1259
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: my three siblings and maybe like you know, twelve or

1260
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: so nieces and nephews, and we all we can't all

1261
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: sit together because they don't have tickets all right in

1262
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: the same spot. So what we were doing during Game

1263
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: seven was I sat on like the the in the front,

1264
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: you know, in the front seats right above the right

1265
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: above our dugout for a few winnings, and I'd rotate

1266
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 2: over some other seats and let some of the kids

1267
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: move around, and I went up to the suite to

1268
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: check on my laws and kind of.

1269
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: Moved series history our owners bouncing around carrying other people

1270
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: more than so.

1271
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny, but like so, actually, you know

1272
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: what I did last night, I watched the game for

1273
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: the first time since the since I came back. So

1274
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: that night we won, and I can tell that story too.

1275
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: But I watched the game the next day at my

1276
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: house because I was, like I said to my wife,

1277
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: I just don't remember anything, like I just don't remember

1278
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: what happened, like it was it was too I was

1279
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: too stressed, and I just it just I'm sure you

1280
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: guys have the similar times where you don't remember what

1281
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: happened or it was just your two in the moment

1282
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 2: and whatever. But so we rotated people around at the ballpark,

1283
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: and so I was going to head back down to

1284
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: like the front seats towards the end, but we had

1285
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: the kids down there, and it's cute. And there's a

1286
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: photo I just saw it on TV on TV last

1287
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: night of Cole and a couple of my nieces and

1288
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: nephews sitting in the front row in the ninth inning.

1289
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

1290
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: And and I was up with Todd and Pete. We

1291
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: wrote we were up in like row twenty three, and

1292
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 2: it was in the eighth inning. We were up in

1293
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: row twenty three and something like that, just kind of

1294
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: in regular seats in the middle of an aisle, just

1295
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: because we were moving around. And then Davis hits that

1296
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: home run and everyone's jumping up and down, and the

1297
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: guy next to me grabs me and starts jumping way

1298
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 2: why that was when they got that on camera.

1299
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: That's a legendary fan right there.

1300
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: No, sorry, dude, I'm not I'm the last person, not

1301
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: the moment, the moment, man. But and then and then

1302
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 2: wanted to come down and I was, you know, trying

1303
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: to get back down for then then it rained, right,

1304
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: it was starting to rain the ninth inning or whatever,

1305
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: so then the rain delay went up to the suite,

1306
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: but it was so quick, couldn't get back down to

1307
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: the regular seats for the for the last out.

1308
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: But wow, imagine imagine that fan. I wonder if that

1309
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 3: fan even was it a fan.

1310
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a fan, just a regular guy. It

1311
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: just started grabbing.

1312
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: I think made that sixteen World Series so special is

1313
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 3: both fan bases were happy for one another, really because

1314
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 3: the Indians hadn't been at the time they were called

1315
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: the Indians had n't been in I think they haven't won.

1316
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: And it was sixty something years, right, sixty and we

1317
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: were going on one Hungred and eighty.

1318
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, you like, so the you know, before the first

1319
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: game of the World Series, the home team throws a

1320
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: party and the Indians through their party at the Rock

1321
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, and I'm walking

1322
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: in to run into Paul Dolan, who's the principal owner

1323
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: of the Guardians and anyway Indians. Then he was like, oh, reck,

1324
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: it's Jesus if if we're playing any other team in

1325
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: the world. Everyone's cheering for us.

1326
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

1327
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: Come on, Paul Man, you won in nineteen forty eight.

1328
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean, sixty years a curse. That's not even a

1329
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: slump for us, Like and know I've that's not a curse.

1330
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: But we had a great experience. There were some people

1331
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: did have some negative fan experiences in Cleveland. Mine we're

1332
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: all positive.

1333
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, none of my family or anything. What you're

1334
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: in the box during the rain delay? Yeah, what are

1335
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: you thinking? The home run just hit? We get back out.

1336
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: Of seventeen games, seventeen to get we'll go call it

1337
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: tears of I don't know if.

1338
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just happen fast, right, we've got rolls, goes

1339
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: back out, gets us out of the ninth and then

1340
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: the rain comes. Right, What are you up there to that?

1341
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: You just pacing in the box?

1342
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: How pissed are you? Go back to the rajer? How heartbroken?

1343
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: I know a fan was jumping on you, but what

1344
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: where is your My head.

1345
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: Was that's very clear. I'm like, I just think it's

1346
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: just so hard to get here, Like it's so I mean,

1347
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm just you're just going through the amount of blood, sweat, tears, time, money,

1348
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: like all the things it takes and all the like

1349
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: the good decisions and the luck have to combine in

1350
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: a way to get you to this moment in time

1351
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 2: and when you're here to like if it gets away

1352
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: from us now, like you know what happens next. And

1353
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: I also, I mean and that that's.

1354
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: That's real, that's real for us, Like I was thinking

1355
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: of it as a curse.

1356
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of things got to go right,

1357
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: and it's really hard to get their health the whole thing.

1358
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and and uh, you know the

1359
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: last thing I wanted to second guessing in game decisions

1360
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: to that that's another one, Like oh my god, some

1361
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: of these didn't go as well as you would hope,

1362
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: and like, wow, this this is gonna this is going

1363
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: to be a really rough one. So yeah, it was.

1364
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: It was pretty pretty intensely stressful. I was, I was,

1365
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: I was. I was getting through. But thankfully I didn't

1366
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: kick anything like emotional John Mors at home when I'm

1367
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: watching on TV and in the ballpark, I play under control.

1368
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: Joe Madden had well. Joe told us he had the

1369
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: plan right. His plan was one thing, and he deviated

1370
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: from it with Lester not coming in on a clean inning.

1371
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: He wanted cleaning with no one runners on, and he

1372
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: deviated took Hendricks out. I can't wait to talk to

1373
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 3: Hendricks about that, because Hendricks, for the first time ever

1374
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: was a mo I never heard him yell and I

1375
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: remember exactly what he said, put his hand in his

1376
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: glove and I was like, whoa.

1377
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we all remember that, yeah, and we all have.

1378
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: We still we talked about we see Raj now and

1379
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: you just like broke it away from me. I can't

1380
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,479
Speaker 1: even write.

1381
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: And we won.

1382
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: It's just so still still much.

1383
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: Like for me that night and then we did uh

1384
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: obviously we did all that stuff and you know, the

1385
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: all the the the trophy presentation in the clubhouse and

1386
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: and that was crazy too, just see all the people

1387
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: and it just and for me, like that night, I

1388
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 2: you know, I hung out there for a while, eventually

1389
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: kind of wandered back to the hotel, walked back into

1390
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: the hotel that we were all staying in, and there's

1391
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: hundreds of people just standing in the lobby, the bards

1392
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: of lung since like they kicked us out, you know,

1393
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: like everyone just standing around is talking and and and

1394
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: then I I was it was time to go upstairs

1395
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: like three three three in the morning or something. But

1396
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: but I committed to coming back to be on CBS

1397
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: the CBS Morning Show. Uh, like they're like they're you know,

1398
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: the CBS Good Morning America or whatever, and and so

1399
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: I had to be back at the ballpark in the morning.

1400
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: Oh so you didn't fly back with us.

1401
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: No, I didn't go back. I stayed. And I'm kind

1402
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: of you know, I mean, in some ways, I'm kind

1403
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: of glad I did, because like I literally I didn't

1404
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 2: go to sleep because I figured if I went to sleep,

1405
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: I was sleep for twelve hours. So it just then

1406
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: it was kind of wired anyway. So then went back

1407
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: to the ballpark and walked back in and it was

1408
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: still wow, like we left it because it rained all

1409
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: night and so there was still like peanuts shells and

1410
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: beer cups everywhere and they were just starting to clean up,

1411
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: like the clean up the you know, the ballpark from

1412
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: from Game seven. And I got to I got to

1413
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: walk in there, and it's just I'm basically with a

1414
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: few seeing a few like people working, but kind of

1415
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: by myself.

1416
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 3: Just like, wow, this is why you got to take

1417
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: that in pretty crazy.

1418
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: And then did the did the show flew back as

1419
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: soon as we landed. Phone was blown up because we

1420
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: had to get all the parade stuff done and had

1421
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: to call the city on a few things.

1422
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: That's one of my questions, what how the heck do

1423
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: you plan a parade? And how many days take?

1424
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: The black Hawks?

1425
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: Five days?

1426
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: Is that what it? I mean?

1427
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: Did you start calling other teams had done?

1428
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they had, I mean our our marketing group.

1429
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 2: They had to. They had to like get the rappers,

1430
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: like at the stuff they're gonna put on the buses

1431
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: and it all had to be kind of planned out. Yeah,

1432
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: just but the one thing was the city was saying, hey,

1433
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: can't you wait till Monday? Like Monday, Well, I mean

1434
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: we like there's the GM meeting stuff, the perfect And

1435
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: then it turned out to be sixty five or seven.

1436
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: It was seventy five. It was a beautiful day.

1437
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 3: The parade was just what's your most memorable part of

1438
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 3: the parade that route?

1439
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: Well, there was there's one like so we obviously we

1440
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: all left here together and kind of going down on

1441
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: Addison and there was a little kid on his dad's

1442
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: shoulders and grandpa we did it holding up aside.

1443
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 3: All right, I'm a I'm a I'm a new dad,

1444
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 3: so you're gonna get me about I.

1445
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: Took up when I talked about this a while. And

1446
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: then of course, as you guys remember like being it,

1447
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: you know when you find you get first of all,

1448
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: people everywhere all the way down that was. That was nuts.

1449
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: And then Grant Park is, Oh my gosh, it's it's

1450
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: people as far as you can literally see all the

1451
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: way back to the trees. And yeah, it was. It

1452
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: was pretty amazing.

1453
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: I remember we rolled in that they had the confetti

1454
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 3: and it's just like I felt like a thousand people deep,

1455
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: people on the fountains, on the light pole I got.

1456
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: My memory is like I just saw heads and then

1457
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden the tree tops like it just

1458
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: like you said, yeah, the way to the trees, and

1459
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: then and people in those trees. You know, it was

1460
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: it was. That was a special epic, uh epic parade.

1461
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: That thing was a maze one.

1462
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 3: I have probably one of my favorite stories, I would say, is, well,

1463
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 3: the thing I get asked most still to this day

1464
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: is Anthony, you caught the last out. How did you

1465
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 3: think they put in your back pocket? And then their

1466
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: follow up questions what did you do with that ball?

1467
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: And we happened? Tom. I don't know if you know this.

1468
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: We we now that I'm an ambassador. I have keys

1469
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 3: everywhere here. This is the ball. This is the last

1470
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: out ball of Game seven of the World Series. And

1471
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 3: Rossie and I always had the plan, Hey, if we

1472
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 3: just get all the balls, it'll be worth so much money, right, So.

1473
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Like every playoffs seat, every last.

1474
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: Out on the parade route. I remember giving this to

1475
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 3: Alex Werez when we clinched and I go, you need

1476
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: to get this authenticated. I trust you for my life.

1477
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 3: His his wife, Abby runs my foundation. So I'm like,

1478
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: I trust you, right, And I have it in my pocket.

1479
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: On the parade I give it to my brother because

1480
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 3: the plan was to give it to you. THEO called

1481
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 3: me up and said, hey, I'm like, yeah, of course

1482
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: I'm giving them this is where it belongs history, and yeah, yeah, right,

1483
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: I remember that. So I get a call on the

1484
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 3: parade route from my agent and he goes, hey, are

1485
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 3: you sure you want to sell that ball. I'm like,

1486
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: I'm not not sorry, sell it, give it away. I'm

1487
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: like yes, of course. He goes, all right, I'm just

1488
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: going to tell you what the first offer is my

1489
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: brother has the ball because we're here, and I'm like, Johnny,

1490
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 3: you're the biggest guy, you're the security guard. He was

1491
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 3: the first offers two million, and I'm like, I just

1492
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: hung up. I was like stop and giving you the ball?

1493
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 3: Was I think this is right where it belongs because everything,

1494
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: the symbolism of this and what you invested in your family,

1495
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: it just belongs. It's I look at it when when

1496
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: Pat Rondon and Jim brought and I've got literally goosebumps.

1497
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and you had it to me at the

1498
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: at the at Grant Park. Yeah, and then I had this,

1499
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: Oh I should have had a fake ball in my pocket?

1500
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: Which one it just chucked it. Imagine that I don't

1501
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: need it. Okay. So ten years later you look back

1502
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Speaker 1: on this, we're going to celebrate this this year. We're

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Speaker 1: going to have our reunion in July, like super cool,

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Speaker 1: We've already had one party. Is really amazing. Like that

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: experience going through all that as an owner, what do

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: you look back on and try to pull from that

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: year that just says I remember one of my first

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01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: world series as a player and going, oh, that's what

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01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: it looks like when once you finally get across the

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Speaker 1: finish line. What's that like as an owner?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, any like obviously, you know, I'm at

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Speaker 2: first a fan. I'm just kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I feel like the responsible fan, like the one you know,

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01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: and I want, you know, to you know, get us

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Speaker 2: back to the point that we can have the kind

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: of memories that we had that year. And I think

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Speaker 2: we're head in the right direction and we got good

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01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: people and we got a great, great team. But you know,

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01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: you're happy it happened because you know how hard it

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01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: is to get there, and there are days you're like, wow,

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01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: if you know, you know something something goes the other way,

1522
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: or Kipness straightens out that ball in the ninth or whatever,

1523
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: like you know, like there's there's a few things that

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01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: are just kind of too scary to think about about

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01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: that not happening. But ultimately, like, uh, you know, I

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01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: think it's just a great thing that we were all

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01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: over there to do something for the fans. Like, you know,

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01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: people still come up to be almost not not quite

1529
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: every day, but if every time I'm at the airport

1530
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: or at a restaurant and uh, you know, and you know,

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01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: people they choke up when they come up and talk

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01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: to you about it and and just to be you know,

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01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,439
Speaker 2: even a small part of something that means so much

1534
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: to so many people is a gift and something that

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe. I'm so lucky to be a

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Speaker 2: part of.

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Speaker 1: And your a big part, say a little bigger part.

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01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: We talk all the time because we now were traveling

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01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: a little bit together. And that's my favorite thing is

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01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: people that come up and tell me their their game

1541
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: seven stories and how generational it was for them and

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: where it came from and how their fandom started. Like

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01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: that is by far my favorite thing that has come

1544
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: from this world.

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01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 3: City.

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Speaker 2: They tell you who they tell you where they were,

1547
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 2: but almost immediately tell you who they were with. Yeah,

1548
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 2: and that's that's what baseball is. Baseball is it's a

1549
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: social sport. The team is a member of your family,

1550
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: like and like you just you can go with your

1551
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: grandkids or your grandparents or whatever. Like it's just it's

1552
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: just different, and you know, and and people care so much.

1553
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 2: And every time I think I met the greatest Cup

1554
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: fan in the world, a few days later I meet

1555
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: someone could also be the greatest Cup fan in the world.

1556
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: So you know, and there's nothing that prepares you or could

1557
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: have prepared you, guys for the amount of just passion

1558
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: and uh oh yeah, and love that the team receives

1559
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: from this incredible family.

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Speaker 3: I remember I told the story at the lady at

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 3: the Cubs convention the next year was like an older lady,

1562
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 3: We're going to win another one, right, And.

1563
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: I got so mad.

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Speaker 3: I was like, ma'am, with all due respect, and you

1565
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 3: can say whatever we want have to say with a

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01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 3: due respect. We just won one before you died, Like

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Speaker 3: this is all you ever asked for, right, And but

1568
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: that's what that's real. We shifted, all of us, shifted

1569
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 3: a culture here to lovable losers to now expected yeah, well,

1570
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: winners every single year.

1571
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Speaker 2: The question like, you know, like do you get tired

1572
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: of the pressure or people getting mad when the team

1573
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 2: doesn't win? And I'm like, well, yeah in some respects,

1574
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, do you want to be

1575
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: levelable losers? And if you're not lovable losers, then you

1576
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: you're expected to win. And that's got to be the

1577
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: standard we we no doubt hold ourselves.

1578
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 3: That's the standard that you've built. Honestly, since you've been here.

1579
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 3: You you had a vision you said it in your

1580
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 3: early press conferences, in your interviews, this is what we're

1581
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 3: going to do, and you did it, and it's it's

1582
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 3: been fun. You guys want to be fun. To be

1583
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Speaker 3: a small part. I was a small part of that.

1584
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 3: We were small parts of Yeah.

1585
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: I was a really small part. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love looking back at in the over the ten

1587
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 3: years and all the stories of the people going to

1588
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 3: the graves, how flags, the chalk on the wall. I

1589
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 3: think it is so cool that we had it. You

1590
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: have you read this redo the redo the wall ten

1591
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: years later, of all the bricks and the chalk. I

1592
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 3: think that's that was the coolest thing. But all the

1593
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 3: stories Grandpa, we did it, All of that is just

1594
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 3: so real. And Tom, I in fifteen when we beat

1595
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, you had a quote and it said nobody

1596
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 3: during when you're in a those views, it said, nobody

1597
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 3: here today will forget that they were here today when

1598
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: we beat the Cardinals. And that resonates with me because

1599
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: you come to Wrigley Field now today and nobody forgets

1600
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 3: their experience at Wrigley Field. And that's because of what

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: you and your family built. This organization is built. And

1602
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 3: ten years later, Rossie and I couldn't thank you enough

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01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 3: to be on here.

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I just want to say, like we

1605
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: don't take for granted that nobody gets to sit down

1606
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: with the owner, right, like this isn't normal and a

1607
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: lot of people get sit down with managers and players

1608
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: and stuff. And so very thankful for that. This you

1609
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 1: you've made us, You've always made us feel like family.

1610
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: But and we are. And I think that's like a

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01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: special thing that you've given us your time to be here.

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01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: So thank you, no, thank you, guys, and this is

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01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: this is fun and we got thanks. I love hearing

1614
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: thank you, thanxious to hear all the stories.

1615
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: I cannot leave an Indians fan up and down average

1616
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: saying true, well, thank you, thanks so much. Somebody that's

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01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: a rat, it's stuff. I thank you, buddy.

1618
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: This is actually sad thinking.

1619
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: But that was said. He well, I see the mark.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa