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Speaker 1: Hour three, let's get after it. Happy Tuesday to you.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I got a couple of tweets here from

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Speaker 1: latest tweet I read was complimentary Jeff, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's nice. That's that's nice to this guy. And then

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Speaker 1: I read it closer, I'm like, wait a minute, that's

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Speaker 1: basically what it boils down to, which, hey man, whatever,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna please everybody. But I just think it's funny

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Speaker 1: sometimes I well, hey, thanks man, that's nice. You went

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Speaker 1: out of your way, Mickey, appreciate the kind words. And

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Speaker 2: I I've got a point where I just don't care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good place to be.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I want people to listen, but like

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Speaker 2: it's July eighth today, What the w n B A

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Speaker 2: way too much time. Mean, at least look to be fair.

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Speaker 2: Crack does check out too. So I guess it's fair

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Speaker 2: that when we do wn b A talk, But you

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Speaker 2: want us to break down every NFL division, I guess

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Speaker 2: I mean, sure, let's start. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't please everybody. Man. As soon as we

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Speaker 1: did that, someone would be like, can we please talk more?

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Speaker 1: The one thing I don't get, Jeff, I'll say this

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Speaker 1: real fast. It really doesn't bother me. I just don't

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Speaker 1: understand the complainers. If something isn't to my liking, I

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why you would do that. Whatever, just

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Speaker 1: turn us off, basically go on about your business. So

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers, Jeff They confirmed Monday that Tyrese Haliburton

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Speaker 1: will indeed miss the entire twenty twenty five twenty sixth season.

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Speaker 1: This after he had surgery on his right achilles not

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Speaker 1: a shocker, right, But I think the messaging is kind

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Speaker 1: of interesting. So this is Pacers president Kevin Pritchard. This

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Speaker 1: is what he said yesterday. His quote is, I have

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Speaker 1: no doubt that he will be back better than ever.

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Speaker 1: The surgery went well. He will not play next year,

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Speaker 1: though we would not jeopardize that now, so don't get

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Speaker 1: maybe it's me, maybe I'm odd here, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's just a weird statement where it's basically like, hey,

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Speaker 1: mind right now, not happening. I mean, I don't hate

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Speaker 1: the messages. Things a little bit odd. Maybe I'm used

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Speaker 1: to these teams. Maybe it's NFL offseason mode and everybody

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Speaker 1: is in the best shape ever, and man, this rookie

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Speaker 1: what I've seen so far, Wow, this guy has grasped

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Speaker 1: used to that where a Pacers statement where it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: For I mean, it's it's odd to be so forceful

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Speaker 2: right and positivity, and this is just not the case.

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Speaker 2: But from a practical perspective, I like it. I like

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Speaker 2: just saying, hey, guys, we're shutting him down. There's no

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Speaker 2: there's no point, like, why are we going to rush

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Speaker 2: him back for a season that we've already not not

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Speaker 2: punted on. But we got rid of Miles Turner as

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Speaker 2: just now we're not punting on the season, but we're

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Speaker 2: letting you know that don't expect. So I appreciate Brian.

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Speaker 2: I think the honesty there, right, I appreciate the honesty

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Speaker 2: coming back, guys, you know, you want to sell tickets,

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Speaker 2: And they just didn't do that here. So it just

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Speaker 2: Rushed is the wrong word. He was it was the funnels.

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Speaker 2: He was going to play no matter what. But he's

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Speaker 2: So I found that. You know, that's that's unique. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be like the Titans like press conference, Hey

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Speaker 1: they left it at he will not play next year, though, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So what makes the NFL so different, as you mentioned

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Speaker 2: the NFL sells hope better than another league. It's one

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Speaker 1: Absolutely it does. And this is the other part of

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Speaker 1: He said, if you're asking me, would I have him

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Speaker 2: Buddy, this is its game the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: And there's no way that Hollyburn would have been like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: We followed the sport. We see what happens to these

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Speaker 2: achilles injuries. We see you rush back from a calf injury.

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Speaker 2: I think there's just no way he wasn't gonna play,

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. You're gonna play. He managed backlash. If

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Speaker 2: what what you would have a chance to beat.

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Speaker 1: And so, And there's no guarantee he would have gotten hurt. Right,

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Speaker 2: So it's a tough it's a tough spot, I thing

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Speaker 1: Watch comes.

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Speaker 2: I watched a ton of rom coms. I'm just very

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Speaker 2: Maybe because I was so hurt in my NFL career

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why I think, though, I think with if

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Speaker 1: anybody's second guessing Haliburton playing in game seven, my rule

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Speaker 1: is this, Jeff, you need to be first guessing in

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Speaker 1: game six, Haliburton shouldn't be playing too risk You should

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Speaker 1: it's too risky. If you weren't saying that that, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear. Correct, you say that once you

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Speaker 1: find out that he snapped his achilles that that's my

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Speaker 1: It's unfortunate. There was no guarantee he was going to

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Speaker 1: All right, Coming up next, what will be the most

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Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm probably

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Speaker 1: Is this bad medicine? What is this?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Loraina just wanted to go back to the eighties

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Speaker 1: let's get back to the NFL over here, so we're

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Speaker 2: What's that? What's the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's National Football League. So there have been some

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Speaker 1: What do you think the most impactful change or non

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Speaker 2: Well they're well they're actually not though.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the secondary system. So they're not gonna be

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, But here's the question I have

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Speaker 1: That's one. On side kicks, you can you can go

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Speaker 1: I think some teams will. Some will say, hey man,

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Speaker 1: Hester is a Hall of Famer because he was a

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Speaker 1: great return man. Oh yeah, you know. And there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of excitement with the play with absolutely think

429
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Speaker 1: at Dante Hall and Tamark Vanover for a little while.

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Speaker 1: I had some interesting, like some exciting returns. And listen,

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Speaker 1: I get it. The concussion thing, and they're trying they're

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Speaker 1: always trying to lower the numbers. I understand that.

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Speaker 2: Right, But if you want to lower the number of concussions,

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Speaker 2: why would you force to kickoff returns.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're trying to find the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 2: Well, I get it.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have someone running, you know, forty yards

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Speaker 1: downfield at full speed and then just lighting with someone.

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Speaker 2: So I every young offensive lineman who's not starting does

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Speaker 2: kickoff return Yeah right, yeah, And I did it in

441
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Speaker 2: the a where you do whatever you wanted to do,

442
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Speaker 2: just sure so you basically what happened is this we

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Speaker 2: did the wedge is called right where you would hold

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Speaker 2: hands together as a as a normally three to three

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Speaker 2: to five, two to five guys, whatever it was, you'd

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Speaker 2: hold hands and you'd run full speed. A defender who

447
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Speaker 2: is named the wedge buster, a guy whose job it

448
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Speaker 2: was to a linebacker, most often whose job it was

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Speaker 2: to run full speed and throw their body into the

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Speaker 2: wedge to create a pile so they couldn't return.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're telling me concussions occurred on places.

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Speaker 2: Shocking, right. So what you would do is I would

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Speaker 2: be in my stance, I'd run back and i'd hold

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Speaker 2: get to spot, hold the guy's hand, run full speed

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Speaker 2: and then you just close your eyes. Yeah, you just

456
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Speaker 2: you just boom and just like you're like, oh, well, okay,

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Speaker 2: survive that one. It's terrible. Look, I'm not disagree with

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Speaker 2: why they got rid of it, but yeah, it was not.

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Speaker 2: It was not I knew guys would put in. They

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Speaker 2: put in extra. They basically take a thigh pad or

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Speaker 2: a knee pad and put it under their shoulder pads

462
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Speaker 2: for extra for extra extra support. But it does lead

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Speaker 2: to fun. I did have one kickoff return in the NFL, Brian,

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Speaker 2: you did, yeah, sixteen yards? Okay, and uh the worst

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Speaker 2: or best part either one. I didn't fumble, which is

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Speaker 2: the best part. The worst part was that someone actually

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Speaker 2: tried to tackle me and got knocked out and got

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Speaker 2: stretchered off the field.

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Speaker 1: Oh, now there are you talking there?

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Speaker 2: So what happened. Was it was Clifton Smith who actually

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Speaker 2: got can cussed in a game earlier again we played

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Speaker 2: He got can cussed earlier this season again such as

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Speaker 2: well on a on on a pretty vistage vicious hit

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Speaker 2: on a punt return. He was the punt return gott clearly,

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Speaker 2: so he was going to tackle me and he got.

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Speaker 2: He got, He got pushed into my leg and like

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Speaker 2: hitting the side of my my hip and got knocked out.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember. I was celebrating so much that when

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Speaker 2: my uncle called me later that day to talk about it,

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Speaker 2: he's like, he's like, how's the guy that that I

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Speaker 2: can cuss? And you got carried off? Excuse me? What happened? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I can send you to play. You can see it.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy laying at the bottom of the pile, motionless.

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Speaker 2: It's really like disturbing to see.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize it happened in real time, no idea.

487
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Speaker 2: I was so celebrating so hard that I got sixteen yards.

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Speaker 1: Good job for you.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I have terrible running for him, though not very.

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Speaker 1: I don't that for a second. You're very slippery. Maybe

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Speaker 1: a couple of spin moves. I don't buy that at all.

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Speaker 1: I think they're a top shelf. I've interviewed Clifton Smith

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Speaker 1: many times. I did radio and Fresno. He's a former bulldog.

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Speaker 1: You know. So Clifton Smith was a good return guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but him trying to tackle you, Clifton Smith is

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Speaker 1: a small guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he got pushed into my leg. If

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Speaker 2: you watch it, I don't think he I think he

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Speaker 2: got pushed in the back or something, or he got

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Speaker 2: tripped up. I don't think he was going like headlong

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Speaker 2: into my leg. Yeah, but knocked out. Yeah, not great man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have an Android phone. Off, I said you a video.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be all weird.

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Speaker 1: Jeff hates me because I have an Android phone.

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Speaker 2: Well, you ruined the text thread.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to do it.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy to quote unquote ruin the text thread

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Speaker 1: with my Android ways. You know, it makes me happy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So while we're talking NFL, and you know, for the

512
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Speaker 1: non NBA at w NBA crowd out there, they should

513
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Speaker 1: be in blissful heaven right here with this. But how

514
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Speaker 1: about these these nuggets? Jeff, I ran across some other

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Speaker 1: ones that I thought were pretty interesting and some that

516
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Speaker 1: you might not know are the case. Right. So one

517
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Speaker 1: was with the Arizona Cardinals. So they led their division

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Speaker 1: in scoring last year and they also finished second in

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Speaker 1: points allowed in the NFC. That's pretty good. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize they were number one in scoring and number two

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Speaker 1: in points allowed in the in their division. That's really good.

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Speaker 1: Like think of the Rams. Rams went toe to toe

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They had some ugly, ugly offensive games. They won a

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Speaker 2: game I think like thirteen to nine. The Rams did

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Speaker 2: that was it was not always pretty at times. They

527
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Speaker 2: need to beat the Jets like thirteen nine the top

528
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Speaker 2: of my head, like in New York, or beat the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I have some gross game like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they did have and they start slow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is with them starting slowly.

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Speaker 1: Another one with the Arizona Cardinals. How about Marvin Harrison junior.

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Speaker 1: So he only had two games with one hundred plus

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Speaker 1: receiving yards and he had ten games with fewer than

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Speaker 1: fifty yards receiving.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, that's I think he could break out this year.

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Speaker 1: But it's like, man, we expected a lot more from

539
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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior. His first year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was talk at times that they weren't giving

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Speaker 2: the ball off, remember, and they tried to They tried

542
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Speaker 2: to force the ball to him and it sometimes it worked.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the game of the year they

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Speaker 2: forced the ball to him in a bunch of The

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are really interesting because their team I just always

546
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Speaker 2: have a hard time getting a read on, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think it has to do with Coler Murray. Coler

548
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Speaker 2: Murray is is supremely talented, supremely gifted, but there are

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Speaker 2: times he just doesn't look it. For lack of a

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Speaker 2: better term, He's a guy that is very If he

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Speaker 2: starts the game hot, Brian, he ends the game hot.

552
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Speaker 2: If he starts cold, he pretty much ends cold. And

553
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Speaker 2: so it's hard to just look at him and like,

554
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Speaker 2: how do you is this the hot game or the

555
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Speaker 2: cold game today? And that makes it difficult to handicap them.

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Speaker 2: They're They're not a team I would argue that has

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Speaker 2: a lot of like juice players, you know, like like Connor, yes, Murray, yes, Harrison.

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Speaker 2: I mean the numbers you put out I guess, I

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Speaker 2: guess now McBride's maybe the best time I no one

560
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Speaker 2: ever talks about they have that as well, but he

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Speaker 2: really defensively is where the lack of juice is at,

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Speaker 2: you know. And so.

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Speaker 1: They made some upgrades, a handful of draft picks and

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Speaker 1: free agents. Yeah, could make an impact. I leiais Campbell

565
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Speaker 1: is ageless by the way, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I like, by the way, the Nolan draft pick they had,

567
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Speaker 2: and there's a pretty good draft pick. I think Nolan's

568
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Speaker 2: going to be good in the NFL. So there's some

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Speaker 2: upside there. Again, we we know we listened Philly coach

570
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Speaker 2: defense obviously gotta do the whole thing as a head coach.

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Speaker 2: There's a team I always have, I always have trouble with.

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Speaker 2: I always forget about them. I'm always like that, how

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Speaker 2: do how do I prure them correctly? So I'm curious

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Speaker 2: the other do this? I know, I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people are going to be on there.

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Speaker 1: Over they might be. There are a couple other ones.

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Speaker 1: So this is from the Oh wow, Foe is in

578
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Speaker 1: the house excited?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Athletic has an NFL newsletter and so they

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Speaker 1: had a couple of interesting tidbits yesterday. How about this,

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Speaker 1: So Josh Grizzard, he's the new offensive coordinator with Tampa,

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Speaker 1: of course, will be Baker Mayfield's eighth offensive in as

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Speaker 1: many seasons, eighth in eight seasons.

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Speaker 2: I give him a lot of props the way he's

586
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Speaker 2: handled all this he's had, He's been dealt this hand

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Speaker 2: essentially right, and that's good. I mean, he's coordinators that

588
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Speaker 2: are good and they eventually get jobs, and so you

589
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Speaker 2: know that that's in the end maybe a good thing.

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Speaker 2: But it's at some point that the brain drain is real, right,

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Speaker 2: And and these guys just you lose too many coordinators,

592
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Speaker 2: too many smart minds. But how many times can you

593
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Speaker 2: continue to hire like the best coordinator every year? Right?

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Speaker 2: So there's a question there. But I also will say

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Speaker 2: that when when you have a guy like Baker who's

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Speaker 2: been through a lot and seen a lot of it,

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Speaker 2: you can easily digest new playbooks and new concepts. And

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Speaker 2: it's very It might even be so simple as we're

599
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Speaker 2: keeping everything as is terminology wise, and that happens sometimes

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Speaker 2: when OC comes in, they actually learn the old terminology

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Speaker 2: and apply to their offense and keep everyone on the

602
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Speaker 2: same page. But they're very Tampa Bay one of the

603
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Speaker 2: better offense livenes the NFL underrated. I think people don't

604
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Speaker 2: realize that the pretty good offensive line, Mike Evans obviously

605
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Speaker 2: going for another thousand yard season. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: positives there when it comes to Tampa Bay, even if

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Speaker 2: the coordinator keep changing offensively, which again it could be

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Speaker 2: a problem. We'll see what happens this season.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's two others. Okay, with the Falcons. How

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Speaker 1: about this. They rank thirty second, dead last across the

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Speaker 1: past five, ten and twenty seasons in total sacks. So,

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Speaker 1: depending on whatever measure you want you want to use,

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Speaker 1: the last twenty seasons, they're dead last. All you want

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Speaker 1: to shorten that last ten seasons, they're still dead last.

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Speaker 1: Only the last five seasons, dead last in total sacks.

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Speaker 1: They drafted two dudes in the first round. They basically

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Speaker 1: used three draft picks. They sacrificed their first rounder next year,

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Speaker 1: and they picked up a free agent as well, so

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Speaker 1: hopefully they found a pass rush.

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Speaker 2: For their some dudes too. They had a Babino was decent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they had Jared. They had John Abraham. I believe we

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Speaker 2: should he'd be in that group as well. Wow. Interesting?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dead last five years.

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Speaker 2: Crazy. Don't like trading a first rounder for j Pears.

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Speaker 1: I know, but they were so desperate, man, I know,

626
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Speaker 1: but that's that's I hear you. I can get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bad to things like that.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like there's a hole in your window,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's the you've got weather. It's the time

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Speaker 1: of year where there's weather, and you're gonna have to

631
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Speaker 1: dip into your sports betting fund to replace this window,

632
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, you gotta do what

633
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Speaker 1: you got to do at some point. And if there's

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Speaker 1: ever a team that was just aching for help, it

635
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Speaker 1: was the Falcons. We'll see if that works out at all.

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Speaker 1: Last one for you, the Carolina Panthers. They allowed the

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Speaker 1: third most points per game of any team in the

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Speaker 1: past twenty years. That's how bad they were last year.

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Speaker 1: They allowed thirty one point four points per game, third

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Speaker 1: most over the last two decades.

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Speaker 2: I'm high on the pan. I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: good this season.

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Speaker 1: Man, I don't it could go eat.

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Speaker 2: Their defense improved, they got Derek Brown back, they added

645
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Speaker 2: a lot of fans, they had a lot in the draft,

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Speaker 2: and then I think Bryce Young just year two in

647
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 2: this offense, we saw last season what it looked like,

648
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Speaker 2: right is it kind of got going a little bit.

649
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Speaker 2: I like the team acadition, I like their off I

650
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: like their coaching staff. I didn't have a lot of

651
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Speaker 2: things going for them this year.

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Speaker 1: I got to see it to believe it.

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Speaker 2: Are we running our bet back?

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Speaker 1: I think we have to just based on principle, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want any part of it, but I feel like, yeah,

656
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Speaker 1: it's like the third installment, I think, right, So for

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Speaker 1: those that were one and one, yeah, those that don't

658
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Speaker 1: know Jeff and I, I think we're one to zero

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Speaker 1: and one because you somehow tied me last year. You

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Speaker 1: rat Bastard where so I don't know how this happened.

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Speaker 1: But Jeff bets on the Panthers. I bet on the Saints.

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Speaker 1: We're not fans of either team. You might be a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a Panthers fan living.

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Speaker 2: In living in Charlotte, but I, I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: that some of the people there, I mean I hope

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Speaker 2: they do well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's fair. But anyway, we bet on whichever

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Speaker 1: team has more wins that season, and whoever wins you

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Speaker 1: get a nickel. We put five hundred bucks on it,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of years ago they played each other

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Speaker 1: in the final game of the season. I needed the

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Speaker 1: Saint comment at home. Yeah, we were there in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: We had a live show in Cincinnati. We're watching that.

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Speaker 1: Jeff put five hundred American dollars right there on the table.

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Speaker 1: He was convinced he was gonna have to pay me

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Speaker 1: that money. And the Saints had a long field goal

677
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Speaker 1: attempt at the end, missed it, and the Panthers had

678
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: a long field goal attempt at the end, made it,

679
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Speaker 1: and it was a push. He just took that five

680
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: hundred put it right back in his pocket. I'm like,

681
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: that should be mine. And then last year was it

682
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: was disgusting? That was that was another tie? Was it not?

683
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: I thought I had it with the Saints, and your

684
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Panthers went to Atlanta and won the game on the road.

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Speaker 1: They were like eight point underdogs something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah they won game. Yeah, will I.

687
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Speaker 1: Did win it? One year?

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Speaker 2: You won one year the year the Panthers drafted one overall, right, yeah,

689
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Speaker 2: or you drafted one overall.

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00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: So maybe it's one. Yeah, is that my record in

691
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Speaker 1: this bet? One? Two? Is that right?

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Speaker 2: It might be crazy? So my favorite thing about our

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Speaker 2: remote in Cincinnati, So we did a remote Cincinnati. Is

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Speaker 2: that it's now infamous for this is where the L

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Speaker 2: s U or Alabama baseball coach trying to cheat, try

696
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Speaker 2: to cheat the system.

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00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: It's right, he.

698
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: Did it at that sport. For those who remember, the

699
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: Alabama baseball coach got fired for gambling on on his

700
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: games and the game the sports book he used was

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Speaker 2: the one in Cincinnati that we went to. Yeah, and

702
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: what was so interesting about it is that sports book did.

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of people on an NFL Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Can't imagine what it was like on a Tuesday during

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00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: baseball season. Yeah, you imagine. The teller there is like,

706
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Speaker 2: you want to do what you have one hundred thousand dollars,

707
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: which is what we try to bet on on Alabama baseball.

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00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: Excuse me, that's not gonna work.

709
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: No, I think it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Coming up next Odd Food Choices and

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Speaker 1: Jeff the first ever Pony Crawl. I'll give you details

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Speaker 1: should be. All right, Jeff, So we're gonna get crazy

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Speaker 1: in Vegas here. This will be I think on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna do what I call the pony crawl.

733
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Speaker 1: So I don't know how to explain it. It's they

734
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Speaker 1: have in Vegas at various casinos. That's right, they have

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Speaker 1: the electronic ponies as I call them. So just picture

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Speaker 1: of a miniature miniature miniature horse racing track, correct, and

737
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: these electronic ponies just run at various speeds and you

738
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Speaker 1: bet on them. And so we looked at it and

739
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: they're probably about ten different casinos that have these, and

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna hit every every single one. Instead of

741
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Speaker 1: a pub crawl, we're gonna do the pony crawl.

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Speaker 2: You and the missus.

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00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay. On Thursday, I'm gonna buy a Fedora.

744
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like the Kentucky Derby. You know, you

745
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Speaker 1: get all dressed up as if we're going to the

746
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Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby. We're gonna do the pony crawl. So we're

747
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Speaker 1: gonna do. I'll report back to you.

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Speaker 2: How many sos roughly like? Are they mostly like Fremont

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Speaker 2: Street or like strip?

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Speaker 1: A lot of them are on the strip, A lot

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Speaker 1: of them like ones in Mandalay Bay Ones Resorts World,

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00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: there's very lux Or I think has one. A lot

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Speaker 1: of them on the strip. Wow, I think they have

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Speaker 1: it at the D I think that's the one. Fremont Street.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, should be fall, It should be interesting,

756
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Speaker 2: interesting a day. Yeah, hopefully it'll.

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Speaker 1: Be profitable, but we're making it an event.

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Speaker 2: How much you put in down?

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Speaker 1: Not a ton like a lot of these are one

760
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: at Resorts World is twenty five cents per bet. That's

761
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Speaker 1: how low you could go, and some are like one

762
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Speaker 1: dollar per bet. I don't think it will go too crazy.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. Hopefully we hit a jackpot or too. I'm hoping.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing that Thursday. But I want now, I

765
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Speaker 2: want updates, so can Yeah, we put we should wager

766
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Speaker 2: on Brian's wagering.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I like that wagering on wagering. Now

768
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Speaker 1: we're talking here. How about this too, because uh IGOs Fiatech.

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Speaker 1: She's at Wimbledon and she's advancing here and she has

770
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Speaker 1: an interesting food choice, like strawberries are very popular at Wimbledon,

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Speaker 1: and so she was asked about her food preferences.

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Speaker 2: This is what she said.

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Speaker 1: Check this out. I have my favorite. Actually I ate

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Speaker 1: it as a kid. It's pasta strawberries. So that's strange.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, but guys, pasta strawberries, a little

776
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Speaker 2: bit of yogurt, it's just great.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how about that pasta, strawberries and yogurt. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any weird food concoctions over there altogether? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what she does. Mix it all together. You do anything

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Speaker 1: crazy like that thing off the wall.

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Speaker 2: The off the wall thing I'm doing today is taking

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Speaker 2: the first half under and in mystics and sky. So

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's my crazy thing I'm doing eleven thirty

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Speaker 2: tip off take. Give me the first half under very early.

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Speaker 1: You tell me if this is weird. I do this

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Speaker 1: at Subway a Lot. I'll get a BLT, which I love.

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Speaker 1: I'll get the normal lettuce, tomatoes, green peppers, salt, and

788
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Speaker 1: they'll be like, you want anything else. I'm like, no,

789
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Speaker 1: like Mayo, mustard, no dry arty anything.

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Speaker 2: Does he know? Does the