WEBVTT - My Redeemer Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick. I'm the pastor of Elevation

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<v Speaker 1>Church and this is our podcast and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining us today. Hope this inspires you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives your perspective

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<v Speaker 1>to see God as moving in your life. Enjoy the message.

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<v Speaker 1>We're incredibly blessed today to have one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>Bible teachers in the country to share God's word with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Harper is here one of the most prominent teachers

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<v Speaker 1>and preachers at conferences in women's events today. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>gifted author, and I think you're gonna really love how

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<v Speaker 1>she makes the Bible just come alive when she teaches.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think you're going to be encouraged hearing

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<v Speaker 1>God's goodness and faithfulness towards her and her family. She

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<v Speaker 1>has an amazing story, and in fact, she brought a

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<v Speaker 1>video just to share a little bit about what God

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<v Speaker 1>has done in her family's life. So we're gonna watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she's going to be up here to preach. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when this video is done and she takes the stage,

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<v Speaker 1>let's give her the best Elevation Church welcome possible. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready to hear from God today? All right, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can take a seat, take a look at the screens.

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<v Speaker 1>In April twenty twelve, I jumped off a proverbial cliff

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<v Speaker 1>and into the greatest adventure and joy of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I began the process of adopting my little girl, Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>Price Harper. I love you. Her first mama, Marie, died

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of undiagnosed days when Missy was just

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, unwittingly infecting her with HIV, which was exacerbated

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<v Speaker 1>by a tuberculosis, severe malnutrition, and a host of other ailments.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctors Importer Prince didn't give Missy much of a chance,

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<v Speaker 1>but then again they didn't know. My baby girl has

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of a warrior. Our adoption process took two

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<v Speaker 1>long years, but I finally got to bring her home

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<v Speaker 1>to Tennessee on April fourteenth, two thy fourteen, just a

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<v Speaker 1>few days before Easter, which seemed especially fit girl. And

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<v Speaker 1>her name was Missy and she was so sutt We

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<v Speaker 1>and her mama came to Haiti and said, that's my baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Brought her home to tennis See. Yeah. Yeah, every single

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<v Speaker 1>day since has been better than the one before. By

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<v Speaker 1>the grace of God in great medical care, Missy's health

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<v Speaker 1>is now excellent. Her HIV is completely undetectable, and her

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<v Speaker 1>lungs have no scars from the tuberculosis she suffered from

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<v Speaker 1>as a toddler. She even has killer ABS, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really the only dead giveaway She's not my biological child.

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<v Speaker 1>We're surrounded by an incredible community of friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>Missy has more doting aunts and uncles than just about

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<v Speaker 1>any kid I know. Plus we've had the joy of

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<v Speaker 1>getting to go back to the village she's from and

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<v Speaker 1>Haiti and share the love of Christ with her extended

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<v Speaker 1>family members. Psalm sixty eight declares that God is a

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<v Speaker 1>father to the fatherless, a husband to the husbandless, and

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<v Speaker 1>he places the lonely in families. That's definitely our story

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<v Speaker 1>and I plan on praising Him over it for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my life. That's lot of kisses. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>kiss you a lot, though, yes, a little bit kissed you.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, no way, I'm coming kiss monsters, We're coming

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<v Speaker 1>after you. Hey, do you know why I kiss you? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think because you love me? How much

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<v Speaker 1>do you think I love you more than the whole world?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep about that much is even wider. No way, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>No way, no way, y'all. Oh, please be seated, Please

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<v Speaker 1>be seated. And so tickled to be here. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>even tell you how honored I am to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Please please please sit down. You're going to be mad

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<v Speaker 1>at me in a minute. Anyway. I'm just undone. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a donkey at the Kentucky Derby because I

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<v Speaker 1>love Elevation Church. I watch y'all online all the time

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<v Speaker 1>from Nashville, deeply, deeply respect what God has done through

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<v Speaker 1>Holly and Pastor Stephen, and y'all feel like you'll just

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<v Speaker 1>epitomize christ admonition to be a city on a hill,

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<v Speaker 1>to be a light to the world. So the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I get to be here just undoes me. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to bring two qualifications because my main prayer

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to this was that I wouldn't unwittingly throw

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<v Speaker 1>a monkey wrench into what God is doing through y'all

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<v Speaker 1>and through your campuses, and so I need to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and qualify two things. One is I'm old. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>much much older than Pastor Steven or most of your

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<v Speaker 1>pastoral staff. And I'm also going through what some would

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<v Speaker 1>call the Change, which is probably TMI, gentlemen. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I tell you that is because during the change,

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<v Speaker 1>I've developed a spiritual gift called projectile perspiration, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can pretty much aim where I'm in a sweat and

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<v Speaker 1>because it's one hundred and forty five degrees today and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a fluffy season, that has exacerbated my spiritual gift.

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<v Speaker 1>And so y'all are going to get wet, all of you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to call this sea world in Charlotte. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we just vote that it's a baptism. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just an extra baptism. So that's my first qualification. The

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<v Speaker 1>second qualification is we're going to talk this morning about

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<v Speaker 1>the immutable, that is the unchanging hope of Christ. But

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<v Speaker 1>the way we're going to get there is through a

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<v Speaker 1>true story in scripture that some equate with sticking your

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<v Speaker 1>hand in a blender. And so I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>hang with me when I tell you to turn in

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<v Speaker 1>your Bibles to the Book of Job. So turning the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament to the true Story of Job. If you'll

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<v Speaker 1>head to the Psalms and then just back up, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hit Job. Usually it's not a book. We're super familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with women. We never cross stitch this one because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hard story. It's a tough story. I so appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that Pastor Zach said that this had been a difficult

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<v Speaker 1>week because I think all too often in Christian circles

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<v Speaker 1>we act like once we commit our lives to Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's perfect, and I'm like, that's not even biblically sound.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus said, in this world you will have trouble. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a good God. Life can be incredibly hard. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you you lose your metabolism and your hair is comically dependent.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just me. Y'all have different kind of grief.

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<v Speaker 1>She've been through. And I think we do the world

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<v Speaker 1>a disservice when as christ followers we pretend like we

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<v Speaker 1>never struggle anymore. I think that's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>they think we're big fat hypocrites, is because we aren't

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<v Speaker 1>hon Us about the places where we need Jesus to

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<v Speaker 1>carry us. I was at a women's event recently and

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<v Speaker 1>I asked a woman how I could pray for her,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, oh, no, I don't need prayer, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're about to, because I'm gonna punch

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<v Speaker 1>you in the throat for being a liar. There are

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<v Speaker 1>seasons in our life where it is appropriate for us

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Lord, I'm not sure I can handle this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I can hike up this hill in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me. Apart from you carrying me, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make it through the next season of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Job says exactly that. Now y'all probably know his story.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a really good guy. In the first chapter, it

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<v Speaker 1>says that he is a righteous man. He's an upright man.

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<v Speaker 1>Some translations say he's a perfect man. That doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's sinless. That just means he's a good guy. It

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<v Speaker 1>says that he's living a good life. If you study

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<v Speaker 1>all of his acquisitions, he lived in the patriarchal period

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<v Speaker 1>or pre patriarchal period. They aren't sure exactly when this

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<v Speaker 1>story took place, but it was some time between fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and a thousand years before the birth of Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>so long time ago. And if you study his acquisitions

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<v Speaker 1>based on that context, it proves that he had about

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thousand servants if you include women and children. He

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<v Speaker 1>had vast agricultural holdings, and most of his wealth was

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<v Speaker 1>based in agriculture, which I love that because I'm old

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<v Speaker 1>and this will just telegraph my age. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five, but I am not attracted to men and

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<v Speaker 1>skinny jeans. I'm much more attracted to a guy in wranglers,

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<v Speaker 1>like with a John Deere. And that's I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just me, but could be while I'm fifty four and single.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that's kind of job. You know. He's this

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<v Speaker 1>good guy. He's living a good life. He's got like

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<v Speaker 1>a fleet of John Deere's. There's a fish sticker on

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<v Speaker 1>all of his John Deere's. He's wearing wranglers. The knees

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<v Speaker 1>are worn out, and his wranglers from praying because also

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<v Speaker 1>in chapter one it says it is his continual habit

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<v Speaker 1>to pray for his family. He has seven sons, three daughters,

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<v Speaker 1>and it says it is his continual habit. In chapter one.

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<v Speaker 1>Most translations say early every morning, but that's Hebrew idiom.

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<v Speaker 1>That just means it was his continual habit. So he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily set his iPhone for five thirty every morning

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<v Speaker 1>to get up and pray for his family, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was his continual habit. So he's a good guy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>doing good things with his life. He's living a good life.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of my favorite commentators says, Job was not

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<v Speaker 1>filthy rich, he was clean rich because he used a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of his wealth to help the poor and the underprivileged,

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<v Speaker 1>underserve the marginalized. So this is this kind of great

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of a story, and then it turns into a

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<v Speaker 1>train wreck because right after we're taught all these things

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<v Speaker 1>about this true guy. This is not metaphor, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a historical tale. This really happened. Right after we read

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<v Speaker 1>those things, we find out Job loses everything through no

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<v Speaker 1>fault of his own. As a matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time to go here. This is a rabbit trail.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it's redemptive. But God actually is the one

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<v Speaker 1>who causes Job's loss. And we tend to think if

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<v Speaker 1>I put the right quarter in God's coke machine, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get everything I want. What we don't bargain for is

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes God wants to purify us in pain as a

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<v Speaker 1>conduit for that. Sometimes God will prune us and it

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<v Speaker 1>hurts like a dog, and he says, honey, all you

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<v Speaker 1>can experience right now now is the pain. What you

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<v Speaker 1>can't see because you're human and you see through the

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<v Speaker 1>glass dimily is around the corner from this, this pruning

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<v Speaker 1>is going to cause prolific growth in your life. If

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<v Speaker 1>we could begin to trust that sometimes not all the times.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never say evil as divinely causive. I would

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<v Speaker 1>never say God caused cancer or car wrecks. That's just foolishness.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes the pain we walk through is directly from God.

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<v Speaker 1>In the case of Job, he held Job up to

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<v Speaker 1>that lion lizard we call Satan and says, have you

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<v Speaker 1>considered my servant Job? His uprightness did not cause him

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<v Speaker 1>to be immune from difficulty. It actually promoted him to

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty because God said, I know this guy. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the way he's going to walk through this difficult season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to bring me glory, y'all. It would blow

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<v Speaker 1>our hard drive if we would begin to change our

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<v Speaker 1>perspective on pain and go some of That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>walking through is because God thinks that I can handle

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<v Speaker 1>it in a way that eventually I'll bear more fruit

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<v Speaker 1>and I will bring him glory. So instead of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to numb it or get around it or whine about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to walk toward him. In the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of this Job loses everything he's accumulated, all of his wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>all of his servants die, all ten of his children

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<v Speaker 1>are killed. And on the heels of that horrific tragedy,

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<v Speaker 1>his wife says, and you probably remember this, you may

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<v Speaker 1>as well curse God and die. Now she's vilified in

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<v Speaker 1>church culture, has been since the beginning of church culture.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't actually take much offense with missus Job,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can't imagine how I would react if something

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<v Speaker 1>happen to Missy and this mama has just lost ten

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<v Speaker 1>all ten of her children, and so the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she reacts like that, I think, you know, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have cut him. So the fact that all she says,

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<v Speaker 1>as you may as well curse God and die, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that makes sense to me for a mama who's

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<v Speaker 1>in grief and in shock. Job meanwhile says nothing. He

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<v Speaker 1>loses all of this, loses his health, his wealth, loses

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<v Speaker 1>his family loses everybody loves except for his grumpy wife.

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<v Speaker 1>And his response, we're told at the end of chapter one,

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<v Speaker 1>is he shaves his head, he tears his robe. Those

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<v Speaker 1>were signs of extreme grief in this era. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it says he worships isn't that beautiful y'all? Because usually

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<v Speaker 1>we think to be in grief, or to be sad,

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<v Speaker 1>or to be even depressed, that that is the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>end of the spectrum of worship, and God says no,

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<v Speaker 1>to have a broken heart and raised hands, that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>the same continuum. As a matter of fact, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is a deeper, more sacrificial worship to worship like

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<v Speaker 1>kubbacic in job though if it feels like you are

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<v Speaker 1>slaying me yet, well, I still raise my hands and

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<v Speaker 1>sing Hallelujah, because even though I don't understand while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>walking through this, I trust that You're a good God,

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<v Speaker 1>and I trust that ultimately, ultimately, all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>for my good and for your glory. Asaiah calls that

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<v Speaker 1>blind faith. Sometimes it's actually just put one foot in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the other. Do you know that perky is

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<v Speaker 1>not listed as a spiritual gift? You know? I used

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<v Speaker 1>to think it was. I used to think there was

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<v Speaker 1>this continuum and there were emotions that were approved by God,

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<v Speaker 1>and those were like the happy, perky emotions, No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing great, victory, victory, and then the emotions over here

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<v Speaker 1>that were Man, it's tough, I know, Jesus will bring

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<v Speaker 1>the victory. I'm victory minded, but man, today I am

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<v Speaker 1>in the pit, i'd be like, you know what, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just opposed that Christian. That's inappropriate to see that those

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<v Speaker 1>two God oftentimes brings them together. And so if you

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<v Speaker 1>praise me when everything's going great, well good, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Luke six. If you love those who love

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<v Speaker 1>you until you look skinny in those genes, what good

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<v Speaker 1>is it to you? But if you praise me, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you love people who don't love you, well, that

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<v Speaker 1>actually is more pure and undefiled worship. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>job is. He's being honest about his stuff. He's saying

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<v Speaker 1>this hurts. I don't like this. I didn't pray for this,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't dream of this, But I trust you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna worship you. He's being honest. He's bringing all

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<v Speaker 1>of him to all of God. He's not editing and

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<v Speaker 1>just bringing the part of him that's perky to God.

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<v Speaker 1>He's bringing all of him to all of God. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated Lauren's testimony that she said, I thought if I

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<v Speaker 1>transferred schools, maybe a new peer group would make me

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<v Speaker 1>feel better. Y'all, some of us feel the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we're older than Lauren. If only I had

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<v Speaker 1>better friends, if only I had a promotion, if only

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<v Speaker 1>I got the proposal I've been hanging on for. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of us are always thinking, if I got that greener grass,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'd be hopeful, And I'm like, man, we need

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger hero, don't we. Because the hero we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to hold on for is Jesus, our Redeemer, King Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>who eclipses these momentary things we think will give us

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<v Speaker 1>hope and healing. He's so much bigger than a peer group.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so much better than a promotion or a proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>He is what our souls long for most. And even

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<v Speaker 1>though Job was suffering well, he, like us, sees through

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<v Speaker 1>the glass dimily, so he didn't always get it. God

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<v Speaker 1>says he didn't sin in his grief, and y'all, it's

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<v Speaker 1>important for us to know that grief is not sin.

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<v Speaker 1>Where we go in our grief is where we get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble. And I'm going to say one thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I don't get eggs thrown at me for this,

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<v Speaker 1>But healthy grief, godly grief, does not demand an audience

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<v Speaker 1>or applause. Healthy grief. Godly grief does not demand an

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<v Speaker 1>audience or applause. We've gotten so used to airing our

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<v Speaker 1>aches and pains on social media, and if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>get enough likes or enough follows, we think nobody's being

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<v Speaker 1>nice to me. And I'm like, God never intended us

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<v Speaker 1>to bring all of ourselves to all of humanity. He's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you bring all of you to all of me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the one who has healing. I'm the one who has healing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you feel compelled when you ache to run to

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<v Speaker 1>social media before you run to your savior, y'all, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not real grief. That's actually self indulgent whiny. We have

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<v Speaker 1>got to run to Jesus first. Jesus is our hope. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before I totally grind your toe into the carpeting, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to encourage those of you who feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in a Hawhini season. That job epitomizes that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Job Chapter nineteen, verse thirteen. This is the Nator. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the very bottom of his experience. He is at

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<v Speaker 1>the deepest level of the pit. And here's what he says.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not perky at all interesting that God says he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sin here because I want you to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>how depressed he is. He has put my brothers far

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<v Speaker 1>from me, and those who knew me are holy. Is

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<v Speaker 1>strange for me. This is job Chapter nineteen, verse thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>verse fourteen. My relatives have failed me. My close friends

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<v Speaker 1>have forgotten me. The guest in my house and my

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<v Speaker 1>maid servants count me as a stranger. I've become a

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<v Speaker 1>foreigner in their eyes. I call to my servant, but

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<v Speaker 1>he gives me no answer. I must plead with him

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<v Speaker 1>with my mouth for mercy. My breath is strange to

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<v Speaker 1>my wife. That's not a great translation. Better translation is

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<v Speaker 1>King James, my breath is offensive to my wife. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, they are not sleeping in the same bed

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the couch. They are not getting jiggy with it,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they are married. Even young children despise me.

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<v Speaker 1>When I rise. They talk against me. All my intimate

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<v Speaker 1>friends abhor me, and those whom I loved have turned

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<v Speaker 1>against me. I've got nothing, no friends, no home, no reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got nothing. I feel absolutely despondent. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>been there, ever been in the place, so you think

0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I can put on a happy face at church, But man,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate what I'm facing when I go home. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a little more than I bargained for. I started

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<v Speaker 1>the adoption process when I was in my late forties

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<v Speaker 1>and I got matched initially with a precious young woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was a prostitute and hardcore crack addict. Till the

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<v Speaker 1>adoption agent. I don't want a kid that it's the chance,

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<v Speaker 1>a good chance at a mom and a dad. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's best case scenario. So I would much rather

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<v Speaker 1>be considered for a child who doesn't have much of

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<v Speaker 1>a shot, because, in my opinion, as a single woman,

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<v Speaker 1>best case scenario for a kid is to have a

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<v Speaker 1>mama and a daddy. And I said, so, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a child who doesn't look like they have a great

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<v Speaker 1>shot for that, then I think maybe a fluffy single

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<v Speaker 1>woman in Tennessee would be a better option than death

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<v Speaker 1>in a third world orphanage or in a precarious situation

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<v Speaker 1>of states. And I got match with this precious kid,

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore crack addict. I spent seven months in relationship with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent Christmas that year in the crackhouse because when

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<v Speaker 1>I was with her, she used a lot less and

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<v Speaker 1>I just fell in love with this little mama because

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<v Speaker 1>she was desperate twenty three years old. Don't have time

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you her backstory, but I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>if I had her backstory, I would be very tempted

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<v Speaker 1>to abuse narcotics as well to numb the pain of

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<v Speaker 1>what she had walked through. I'm almost fifty five, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell y'all I have yet to meet a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who has struggled with abuse or solicitation who asked

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<v Speaker 1>for a prostitute barbie when she was five or six

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<v Speaker 1>years old. We are so quick in the church to

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<v Speaker 1>turn our noses down at people who use different things

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<v Speaker 1>to medicate their pain instead of recognizing, you know when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not condoning the sin. But Lord have mercy, what

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<v Speaker 1>led them to medicate that way? Let me pray for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see the wounded little girl and the wounded

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<v Speaker 1>little boy that drove them to that trajectory. Spent seven

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<v Speaker 1>months with this kid, desperately hoped she would come to

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<v Speaker 1>know Jesus get in recovery. We formed a really close relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I told all my friends in Nashville, don't throw me

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<v Speaker 1>any baby showers. I said, this is such a precarious adoption.

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<v Speaker 1>The doctors are saying it will be an absolute miracle

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<v Speaker 1>if she carries the baby to term, if the baby

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<v Speaker 1>even survives, because she just it and let go of

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<v Speaker 1>the crack. And I said, so, don't give me any gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Just pray, just pray that God's will will be done,

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<v Speaker 1>that first of all, Marie will be rescued from the

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<v Speaker 1>life that she's just ensneered in. And pray for the

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.080
<v Speaker 1>baby's health. But don't give me any baby gifts. Well,

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a week before Marie was going to be induced, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a phone call from the adoption agency and she said, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>it is great news. She said, every tea has been crossed,

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<v Speaker 1>every eye has been dotted. You're going to bring Anna

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<v Speaker 1>Price home. Marie had let me name her baby girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and I named her Anna after Anna and Luke chapter two.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember she was the prophetess who waited and waited

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<v Speaker 1>and waited, held on to her hope for a real

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>hero in Jesus. And so I so admire Anna. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my little brother's middle name is Price, and our

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<v Speaker 1>family's a little Jerry springer Ish, and so I thought

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that'll kind of redeem our family's lineage, and so I

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.720
<v Speaker 1>named her Anna price. The adoption agent said, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to bring Enterprise home, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you are kidney, and she said no, she said, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>all the entities involved have agreed that you were the

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<v Speaker 1>only one legally allowed to bring her home from the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I got off the phone with the adoption agent,

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<v Speaker 1>I immediately called my mom and I said, Mama, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a granddaughter, because my sister has two boys,

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<v Speaker 1>my little brother has a son, and that would be

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<v Speaker 1>Enterprise was going to be my mom's first granddaughter. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we cried on the phone. We were both so excited,

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<v Speaker 1>so excited at what God had redeemed in the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Got off phone with my mom, called two or three

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 1>other friends. We all cried, because guys, that's what women

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 1>do who were happy, even when you have not one

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>cell of estrogen left in your body. We just it's

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.640
<v Speaker 1>still is kind of the thing we do when we're happy.

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>And so anyway, we all cried on the phone. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when I got off the third phone call, there

0:23:57.920 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 1>was a knock at the door. I go to the door.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the upa guy and he hands me this big

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<v Speaker 1>box and I saw him the return address. It was

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<v Speaker 1>from a friend of mine in Atlanta, and I opened

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<v Speaker 1>it up and her note basically said, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>told us not to give you any baby gifts, but

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>she said, Lisa, I know, like I know my name,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to bring in a price home. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also know that the generational sin and her family

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<v Speaker 1>is going to end with you, and that's why I'm

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>giving you this gift, because I believe there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be purity infused in the rest of her life. And

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<v Speaker 1>she give me a miniature white fur coat. Yeah, her

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<v Speaker 1>husband has done really well. And I sat back down

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>on the couch and I cried harder because nobody's ever

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<v Speaker 1>given me a fur coat. And then a few minutes later,

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<v Speaker 1>the phone rings again and I saw from caller Idea

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.679
<v Speaker 1>it was the adoption agent, and I thought, I've just

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>forgotten to send in some paperwork and I probably need

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to sign something and scan it and send it to her.

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as I heard her voice, I knew

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it was good news. And I'm not at liberty to

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>tell y'all what happened, the details of what happened, but

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>the bottom line is the bottom fell out of our

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<v Speaker 1>adoption and we lost that little mama. She did not

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<v Speaker 1>go in recovery, and I lost enterprise. And I don't

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>have words to wrap around what I felt in that moment.

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I felt like my heart had been just cut outside

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of my chest. And I don't know how long I

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>sat there crying. They weren't happy tears anymore. Where the

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>phone rang again, a song caller idea. It was my mom,

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh, good night, I'm going to tell

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>my mama that she's not going to have a granddaughter.

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>After all, I don't have the emotional wherewithal to even talk,

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>much less explain what just happened. And then I thought,

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I don't answer the phone, my mama

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>is just going to keep calling. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all's mama is like that. And then I thought, you know,

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>if I don't answer after about thirty minutes, she's going

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 1>to call nine one one, And so I thought I

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>need to go ahead and deal with this. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to keep it short, and I said hey, Mama,

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<v Speaker 1>and she didn't even notice that my voice was broken.

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<v Speaker 1>She just real quickly said, baby, I'm so sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>call you with bad news on such a celebratory day,

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 1>but I'm scared and I need you to pray. She said,

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I just got off the phone with my doctor and

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:27.120
<v Speaker 1>she said, what we thought was an ongoing bladder infection

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>is actually appendiceal cancer. And she said, Honey, the cancer

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<v Speaker 1>is metastasized to at least three of my major organs

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and my prognosis isn't good, and I'm scared and I

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>need you to pray for me. So I just prayed

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>on the phone with my mom. At that point, I

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell her about losing Enterprise. Got off the phone,

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and just a few minutes after that it rang again.

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw it as my daddy. My mom and my

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>dad divorced when I was five years old, long acrimonious divorce,

0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>so my dad didn't know anything about my mom and

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>my dad. I hadn't told him that morning about Enterprise,

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh, goodness gracious, and I just can't

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>deal with my daddy right now. But he's kind of

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like my mama, and that he would just keep calling,

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, I'm just going to try to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it short, and I said, hey, Dad, and he said, honey,

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I need your help. He said, I just got home

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>from my surgeon and he said, they did the scans again.

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>My father battled colon cancer successfully, we thought five years previously.

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 1>And he said, honey, the cancer's back. It's in my

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 1>lungs and it's in my bones, and doctor's given me

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>two months to live. He said, Now, I'm okay, I'm

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>totally fine. I know exactly where I'm going, but I'm

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.239
<v Speaker 1>worried about your sister. So I want you to get

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. I want you to explain this to

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>your sister. I told y'all we're Jerry Springer. And so

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I prayed with my dad, got off the phone with

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 1>my dad, and I just collapsed on the couch and

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how long I sat there. I mean,

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, I don't know if I'm ever going

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.360
<v Speaker 1>to be able to peel my heart up off the pavement.

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, Lord, you've picked the wrong girl. I mean,

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not this faithful. You needed to get Chris Caine

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>or Holli Ferdict for this. I mean, I can't, I'm

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>not going to walk this well. And then I just

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>had kind of this jarring epiphany of oh, good night,

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>I've got an early flight in the morning because I

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>have to go to Kansas City and speak at a

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>conference for Christian leaders on the faithfulness of God. And

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought, Lord, I'm not sure I can even make

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it to the plane, much less speak honestly about your

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>faithfulness when I feel like my heart has been cut

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>out of my chest. Y'all, here's who our Jesus is.

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>He is not a fair weather friend. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a bridegroom who stands in front of the judge and says,

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>for better, that's all, just for better, like I'm out

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>if worse comes. That's not who our bridegroom is. Jesus

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>says when your heart is broken, I'm right there. When

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're crushed. I am near to you,

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>when you can't walk, I will carry you. My love

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>for you will not fade, and it will not fail,

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>even when your faith is fickle or frail or broken.

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm right here. I'm not leaving so that you will

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>not be destroyed Malachi three to six. His hope, y'all,

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>is immutable. It doesn't change. We change, We wax and

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>wayne depending on our circumstances, but he doesn't. His love

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>is said fast, and that's exactly what job comes to.

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly what I came to the next morning. You know,

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even hard to stand up and say, our

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>God is faithful, because even the next morning, after I

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>felt like I lost most of my heart, I could

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>look back over my life and go, I've never seen

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>us back. I have never seen God's back. He is

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a good God. He's a faithful God. He's kind. He

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>has never left my side. Even when I am in

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the pit. His presence sustains me. Right after Job says

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't take this anymore, there's this sharp turn, and

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>he says next what most of us know because we've

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>heard Nicole Mullen sing it. He says, verse twenty five four,

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I know that my Redeemer lives. I'm at the deepest

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>point of the pit, but I know my Redeemer lives.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I know he lives. And at the last he will

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>stand upon the earth. And after my skin has been

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>thus destroyed, after my metabolism has thus been shot yet

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>in my saggy flesh, that's just a little liberty with

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the Hebrew. I shall see God, whom I shall see

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>for myself, the Psalmist says, when I see him face

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to face, it'll be enough. And y'all, what's so interesting

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>about what Job says here about his redeemer. The word

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he uses there for redeemer and Hebrew is go well,

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's most commonly translated kinsman redeemer. And most of

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>y'all know a Kinsman redeemer could rescue somebody in their family.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Didn't have to be a close family member, could be

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>like a seventeenth cousin. But if you were somewhere in

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the family circle of a Kinsman redeemer, they could rescue

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you from a minor emergency. Like girls, Let's just say

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you got all fired up about a shoe sale at

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the rack and you ran your visa up to high.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>You could text your Kinsman redeemer and say, I am

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>in trouble. I'm not going to be able to to

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>pray the rent next month, but I got some pretty shoes,

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and your Kinsman redeemer could say, I'm going to pay

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>off your debt and don't go to the rat for

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a while, but I'm gonna pay off your debt, so

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>they could rescue you from a minor emergency, or if

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you had a major emergency, let's say you're facing incarceration,

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>your Kinsman Redeemer could stand between you and the judge

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and plead, plead for leniency, or they could even take

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>your incarceration, your punishment upon themselves. Y'all know Ruth's story,

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, bo as her kins Redeemer redeemed her from

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a life of poverty and shame as a widow, as

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a childless widow. And then they, after they got married,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>had a son named Obed. Thirty nine generations later, Jesus see,

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate Kinsman Redeemer was born through their lineage. So

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Job says, my kinsman redeemer, my go Well is coming

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>for me. So that's normal, relatively speaking. Actually, in that

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>era of history, they didn't even use the word redeemer.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>But God makes the veil thin in pain, doesn't he.

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>If we'll look up, you'll actually see him more clearly

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>when you age than you do when everything's unky dory.

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>He says, my Kinsman Redeemer is coming. What's curious about

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>this is in chapter sixteen he said God is my accuser.

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>God go Well is the one who has brought this

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>calamity upon me. So it's curious that he would say

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>God is both the one who has punished me and

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the one who is going to redeem me? Unless unless

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>job saw what we know now because of where we

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>are in redemptive history. Unless job saw one is coming,

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>who is going to shrug into the orange jump suit

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>meant for me? So God, my judge does wear the

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>black robe of perfect, holy, divine judge, and he has

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>brought this upon me in his sovereignty. But Jesus is coming,

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and he's going to redeem me. And when I see

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>him faced faith, it's going to be enough. My redeemer

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:01.479
<v Speaker 1>is coming, y'all. It's amazing what obseas You know, he

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>uses Messianic terminology in this book that's a thousand years

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>before the birth of Christ. He uses Messianic terminology that

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>she used nowhere else in that period of literature. He

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>sees Jesus is coming. Jesus is coming, that's his posture.

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>If we would get that in the pit, if we

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>look up, we will see Jesus more clearly than ever before.

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>We would not fear pain. Now I'm not saying we'd

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>all be massive massochist or sayis, but we would go

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what, this too, somehow, this too will be

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>for my good and for his glory. So I'm gonna

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>walk it. I'm not gonna try to get around it.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna hide, I'm not gonna numb. I'm just

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna walk it because he thinks I'm strong enough for this,

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so grateful my God has such a high,

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>high expectation of me. So I'm gonna walk it as

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>well as I can. I'm gonna be honest about it.

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna bring all of me to all of him,

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna be honest about it. Two weeks after

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I lost Enterprise, I was in a waiting room hospital

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>waiting room in Orlando, Florida, waiting to hear from the

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.439
<v Speaker 1>surgeon who was operating on my mama. And after four

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and a half hours, he called and he said, Lisa,

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I've got mostly good news. He said, most of the

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>cancer was encapsulated. He said, we weren't able to get

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>all of it, but we got most of it. He said,

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. Your mama will die, but she's going

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to die of old age. She's not going to die

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>from the cancer. He said, so I've got a good report. Well.

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Two days later, that same surgeon called and he said, Lisa,

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the cancer was successful, but your mother is doing poorly.

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>He said, your mother's numbers continue to plummet. He said,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I think she was so weak coming into the surgery

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that her body just can't handle such a difficult surgery.

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And he said, if her numbers don't turn around in

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>the next twenty four hours, we're going to lose your mother.

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>He said, I know you to be a woman of faith,

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and so I would just encourage you to pray well.

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>My sister and I were keeping visual over my mom's bed.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>She was still in ICU, had barely been conscious since

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>she had come out of surgery, and that afternoon my

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>mom roused just a little bit and she whispered, I

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>need to see your father. My sister looked at me,

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and I looked at her, and she went, you because

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>our dad, my stepfather, John Angel, who my mom married

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>when I was six years old, he had passed away

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the year before, and we thought Mama was just so

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>addled from the morphine that she didn't remember that he

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>had passed away. And so I leaned over mom and

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I tried to say as gently as I could, my mom,

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but daddy Daddy passed away. I remember Daddy.

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Daddy died last year, and she said not that father.

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And my sister and I were just stunned. My mom

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and my daddy hadn't spoken really in forty years, and

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no love loss between my mom and my dad Harper.

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So I walked outside of her hospital room. I called

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>my daddy. This is the one who had the lung

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>cancer and it was in his bones. And I said, Daddy,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you know Mama is out of surgery, but she's not

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>doing well. And he said okay. And I said the

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>doctor told us if her numbers don't change and the

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>next day, we're likely to lose her. And I said, Daddy,

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>she's she's asking for you, and he said all right.

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>He said, give me about an hour and I'll be there.

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>My dad was a little man, about five seven, one

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty pounds, soaking wet. I got my mama's jeans,

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and he put himself through college, busting bronx in the rodeo.

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Because he was little, but he was tough. It's like

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>John Wayne Junior. And he comes swaggering down the hospital

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>corridor and he comes up to my sister and I

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:50.959
<v Speaker 1>were standing outside of my mom's room, and he goes

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Lisa Teresa, I love you, girls, but I need some

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 1>privacy with your mother. So she y'all need to stay

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>out here. And he walks in to be with my mama,

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, we're going to be on the news.

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's going to go in and put a

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>pillow over her head. I was like, this is awful.

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>He's in there. About twenty minutes, he comes out and

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>he says, girls, I love you. Your Mama's going to

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>be all right. I'll be back here same time tomorrow.

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Swagger's off welly go busting into her room to make

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>sure she's still breathing, and Mama's sitting up for the

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 1>first time since before the surgery. She's got color back

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.240
<v Speaker 1>in her face, and she said, girls, your father annoyed

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>me with oil. I'm going to be fine. Two days later.

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Two days later, they released my mom from the hospital.

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's not the huge miracle. She was with me

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>last week in Nashville, Tennessee. She's eighty one. She walks

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 1>six miles a day. That's that's not the biggest miracle.

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 1>The biggest miracle is from April of twenty twelve until

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>February fifth of twenty thirteen, my mama and my daddy,

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.919
<v Speaker 1>who had been a strain for forty years. They talked

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>on the phone every single day or they saw each other.

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>My mama is the very last person who was sitting

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>next to my father's deathbed, holding his hand and reading

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the Bible to my daddy. It was a redemption and

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>it was a healing. It was a miracle that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even have the faith to pray for. And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought only God, only God could bring this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>glory out of that kind of heartache. Only God. Two

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<v Speaker 1>days before my mama went into surgery, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>phone call and it was from a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>who had just been to Haiti, and she Sai, at least,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're still grieving in a price. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just got back from Haiti and one of the young

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<v Speaker 1>mama's died of AIDS and there's a little girl that

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<v Speaker 1>she left behind who's two years old. She has HIV,

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<v Speaker 1>in cholera and tuberculosis. The doctors have given her two

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<v Speaker 1>months to live. And I just wondered if you would

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to pray about being her mama, And I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not willing to pray about it. I've been praying

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<v Speaker 1>about this for thirty years. You sign me up, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know. I did not know that the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest redemption and restoration of my life would come after

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<v Speaker 1>a river of tears. And that's what I've come back

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<v Speaker 1>to tell y'all. I want to bring you a good report.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are in a difficult season, maybe, like young Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>you just feel like I need better friends. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>some miserable comforters like job. Maybe you long for your

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<v Speaker 1>marriage to be as close as it once was. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you just need a job. I want to encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>to stay the course. Your redeemer has already come for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your redeemer will restore what seems irreparably broken. Your redeemer

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<v Speaker 1>is enough, but stand it and worship the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>God never leaves us, He will never fail us. His

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<v Speaker 1>presence is enough. Well. I hope you enjoyed the podcast today.

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