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Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning. Breakfast Club, yep's

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Speaker 1: the most dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club, Charlamagne and God.

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Speaker 2: Just hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell envy is at. But

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Speaker 1: we got a special guest. Man. He's got a new

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Speaker 1: show coming out on Netflix called The Vince Staples Show.

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Speaker 1: Vince Staples is hell.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm going good.

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Speaker 1: How y'all doing healthy? Man?

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Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm trying to stay that way, but I'm

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Speaker 2: getting old.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, with vegan or something.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, sound it like.

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Speaker 1: You used to look bad or something.

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Speaker 2: It was a little different. It was a little different,

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Speaker 2: a little grinder.

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Speaker 1: I guess, how are you though?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, bro, I'm grateful, I'm blessed all the good ship.

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Speaker 1: You know you're not. You're tired as hell. It's early

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Speaker 2: I'm tired, so I'll be up early though. So it's

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Speaker 1: What did the Vince Staple Show about? Man?

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Speaker 2: I mean, pretty much, as you know, day to day

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Speaker 2: You know, we all had those days that we tell people,

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Speaker 2: So just trying to find ways to utilize that and

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Speaker 2: issues as far as you know, classicism, socialism, violence, our

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Speaker 2: you scape the black community, right, you can tell people

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Speaker 2: the stuff that you see that you might deem is normal,

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Speaker 2: and when you get these other rooms, they don't see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, after that question, because we were watching it and

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Speaker 1: that's what just what is this show about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was saying, like what because you know, it's

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's, like like.

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Speaker 3: You said, day to day, and which can one day

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's life, like you got to think about.

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Speaker 2: So that episode was at leince we're talking about that, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've all had different levels of financial gain,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I took a lot of approach trum mom,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look what you know, I'm a comedian, so the

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Speaker 1: That is so funny?

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Speaker 2: I wrote it, I wrote it, but it's hilarious. His

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be good. All the kids can watch bulls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a mother figure for real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially like she don't got to do none

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Speaker 2: Like her and Kenya were extremely important and kind of

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Speaker 1: How close is she to your mom in real life?

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Speaker 2: Ah, my mom, My mom a little bit more turned

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Speaker 2: No, but my mom has said that before. MoMA ain't

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it. That's my mama said. My mama's

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Speaker 2: Like we talk about our triggers, it's in our kind

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Speaker 2: She's like, no, I ain't picking all up second time.

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Speaker 2: he told too. It was a little crazy that a liar.

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Speaker 1: He was told.

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Speaker 2: Man. But my mom, her experience is kind of mirror ours.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't be soft exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think kind of having a mother figure

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Speaker 2: But you don't get those passes.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, niggas hate more reading our accountability?

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Speaker 2: Reading? Reading for sure? For sure think reading.

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Speaker 1: You think that you think we hold ourselves accountable enough.

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Speaker 2: Ourselves are each other, both.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about as far as the

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Speaker 2: war forty Laws of Power?

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Speaker 2: I read that's some books. I'm into the fall our books.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like we have a lot of self

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Speaker 2: So a lot of those things kind of hinder us

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Speaker 2: So I feel like we will hold each other accountable.

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Speaker 2: We can get our parodies right now, our understanding who

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking more broad and sits like garnering knowledge and

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Speaker 1: That's why the nation is almost so important Because first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like one and first the other,

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Speaker 2: And that's a very humbling situation. I make it feel vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to just life learning in general, it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want to feel dumb. But you gotta

435
00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 3: figure out what feeds you. Basically, like what he said,

436
00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,800
Speaker 3: if you're doing film, you watch film and it whatever

437
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,439
Speaker 3: caters to you or makes you feel good. But if

438
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 3: you don't even know where to start with that, I

439
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,879
Speaker 3: could see how that could be a challenge.

440
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you think about, like from your manage point,

441
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,200
Speaker 2: stand up comedians, every stand up comedian, I speak to

442
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,720
Speaker 2: it as comedian general that does stand up. They talk

443
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,960
Speaker 2: about barbing or you know, figuring out a set and

444
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 2: how hard it is at the beginning, and how you

445
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 2: have to make mistakes. Within that community, it's embraced, Like

446
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,120
Speaker 2: you hear people talk about it. You hear people talk

447
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 2: about their woes and help each other out. I feel

448
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 2: like within these other communities, we kind of got to

449
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 2: apply that same sort of grace to each other. Give

450
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 2: people the opportunity to fall on the ass and learn

451
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,239
Speaker 2: a little bit.

452
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 3: And it's okay if you do that. I mean, I

453
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 3: never did that, but I know a lot of people.

454
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 1: They know what I don't know. I mean no, never.

455
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 3: In the most humble way, I'm gonna say that I

456
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,159
Speaker 3: never have. But it's not to be like, oh that

457
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 3: makes me so much better than everybody else, because I haven't.

458
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 3: It's just how I grew up a gripping Baltimore City.

459
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 3: So I mean, this is not about me, real quick, Like,

460
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,160
Speaker 3: I just grew up in Baltimore City and with all

461
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 3: male cousins around my brother's friends.

462
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 2: I ain't really have a lot of homegirls.

463
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: So then I grew up.

464
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 3: Hearing them crack on me and crack on my brother

465
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Speaker 3: and crack on friends. So I was real you know,

466
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,479
Speaker 3: just real quick with impriv anyway, you know what I mean.

467
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: Say you have the information based on your experiences.

468
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that's what fed me being funny and

469
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 3: being social and being able to just just be tough,

470
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 3: have tough skin, you know, so.

471
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Speaker 1: And having a social media Pollum, so by the time

472
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: you got on stage, people kind of already knew you anyway.

473
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this was before social media.

474
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, growing up.

475
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Just I just always been funny.

476
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 3: I'd be funny at a funeral, you know what I'm saying, Like,

477
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 3: just just because that's just what it is. So I

478
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: definitely to your point. I understand that, like whatever feeds

479
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 3: you or whatever. I wasn't big on reading it, but

480
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm still not. I hate when we bring people up

481
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 3: back of the who that somebody wrote a book. Okay,

482
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 3: you know what I mean and what it is. I

483
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 3: gotta see it.

484
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Speaker 2: Like I wrote, I've read this book.

485
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Speaker 1: Yo, this is the hardest thing, harder thing.

486
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Speaker 3: That's so we got vits.

487
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: Can't you write the book? I gotta watch the show. Yeah,

488
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 1: the show and listens and I read you used to

489
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 1: send scripts and run show ideas by Quinna Brunt.

490
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Speaker 2: I said, I said, uh, I sent one of the

491
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 2: scripts and she was like, yeah, I'm gonna lie be nervous,

492
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, needs be sending the scripts. But she kind

493
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 2: of because, like I said, I've never done it before,

494
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 2: so you know, you kind of get to be around

495
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 2: these people. I was lucky enough to be a part

496
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: of her show, and it we kind of forged your relationship.

497
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 2: We had done the show previously with those animations, so

498
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: we didn't really communicate that much. But she been a

499
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: really really big help. Her talent and her professionalism and

500
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: just the way that she runs that operation. You know,

501
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 2: for that big company, it's understated, like she does an

502
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: amazing job. I don't know if I ran across somebody

503
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 2: who does it as good as she does in the

504
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: manner that she does it. So I was just really

505
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: grateful that she was able to even look at it

506
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: and also let you know that, like you know what

507
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 2: you're doing, because especially not having information, not having access

508
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: a certain thing. You know, these people that done went

509
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: to college for this stuff, like I value their opinion,

510
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: and yeah, it was a good opportunity to be able

511
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: to share with her.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah, why is it only five episodes?

513
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, that's what they're doing right now. These these

514
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: show orders, they're not really going past eight. It's a

515
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: lot of things are like six eight pretty much just streaming,

516
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, not being able to separate.

517
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: The episode was on a weekly kind of basis. Is

518
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: kind of change a lot of things. People digesting and

519
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: change a lot of things. The budgets changed after the striking,

520
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: but previous to that, the budgets got a little bit

521
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 2: weird during COVID. So I feel like, you know, they

522
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: always gonna throw stuff at us as far as just

523
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: creative people. So working through it, but.

524
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Speaker 3: That's still in a way that's still good though, because

525
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 3: if it's it's too long, it's like all people exactly probably,

526
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: but it's like now we want more.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And also being the first time creative, like it's

528
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff on it, there was like, no,

529
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: we can't do this, we can't do that, we can't

530
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 2: do that. So just working through that system, you learn

531
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: the system the first time, and I'm happy I was

532
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: able to learn it. And I guess it's short setting

533
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: because I didn't have to try to figure out how

534
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: to do ten or twelve episodes while having a kind

535
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: of not fight budget struggle through the pitfall exactly. Yeah,

536
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: And you gotta every episode, you gotta cut. You gotta

537
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: cut stuff, especially shooting on location. You cutting pages, you

538
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 2: cutting you cutting time, You miss some shots, some come

539
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: up like to start raining, uh clouds, Like it's little

540
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: stuff that you don't even think it's gonna affect your day,

541
00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: and they really do.

542
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you some questions. They random was They're

543
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: gonna be random to the people who haven't seen the

544
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: show yet, but they're not gonna be random to you.

545
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: I got you.

546
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: What did the music do to Michael Jackson.

547
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: Man, look at it everything, bro take his childhood ship.

548
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: That case is music. Music can be tumultuous, bro like,

549
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: and I think that a lot of the time were

550
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: so busy focusing on the music and what it gives

551
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 2: to us, we don't ever look at the like, look

552
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: at the bro look at bro. Like when I was

553
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: a kid and I seen Michael Jackson, I didn't know

554
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: of the Michael Jackson. I'm only thirty, so my whole

555
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: life I was like this nigga look crazy. My whole life.

556
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 2: It's like I never looked at Michael Jackson, was like, oh, man,

557
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: that's a cool fly nigga, Michael. And then you get

558
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: older and then you see I remember my first time

559
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: seeing it was like, uh, the movie that the made

560
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: for TV movie they had with you after rating and

561
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: shit and uh American Jackson, American fan.

562
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: Oh the one Jason Weaver played. Wait, I was gonna say,

563
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: flex Washington, No, that was.

564
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: Not that. Yeah, Jason, I was like this this ain't cool. Nigga,

565
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like this what happened? Is this? That's what happened? Bro?

566
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: Y'all like, y'all let this happen. Like everybody like, oh,

567
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: that's Mike, Like, now, this nigga like terrible.

568
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: You know the interesting thing about Mike, You know how

569
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: they say the whole you know, Bill Cobby was trying

570
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Speaker 1: to buy a NBC thing. Mike really owned half of

571
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: the music industry is published. Yeah, no, black man supposed

572
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: to have that kind of power in the music injury.

573
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Speaker 1: But nobody ever said it was a conspiracy to bring

574
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson that.

575
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: Look, man, That's all I'm saying. I'm saying the nigga

576
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: looked like he was into some freaky shit. Man, we

577
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: talked about that.

578
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, Mike was innocent.

579
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: Man, I'm not saying he wasn't. I'm not saying he was.

580
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying that if he had anything going on, I

581
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised. All I'm saying is a nigga life

582
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 2: looked a little rough.

583
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: He got investigated by the FBI was seventeen years.

584
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about that

585
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: wig bro. You talking about these kids. I'm saying, regardless,

586
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: see how you see how you see how we trying

587
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: kind of trying to sidetrack it with the accomplishment instead

588
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: of being like they fuck this nigga life up. What

589
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, no matter what happened, look at that nigga.

590
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: Well, then the music got the money in the fame.

591
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: He was the most famous man on earth, probably the

592
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: most famous person ever that walked the faith of the show.

593
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: And look at the nigga. Damn, it's not true, trauma. No,

594
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: it's not true. Man, that weave with that nose. They

595
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: fucked Mike up. Man, they need to we need to say,

596
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: we need a sorry Mike Day, like My Bad Michael.

597
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: That shit fucked up.

598
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: I liked him, My Bad MJ. We're gonna do that

599
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: on his birthday.

600
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Speaker 2: Man.

601
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: You started doing this show on YouTube right about five

602
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: years ago. Man.

603
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: So originally, when I first started on music, I never

604
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: been like the biggest artist. So when started new music,

605
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: people will kind of gravitate toward certain things. We like music, videos,

606
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: we like this, we like that. And I never been

607
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: like ignorant of the world around you me. You know

608
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: what I mean. I know what I'm good at, I

609
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm not good at. So I always thought, okay,

610
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: what's the limits that we can push probably visual medium,

611
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: same thing with interviews and stuff of that nature. So

612
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: we had a bunch of meanings had to be like seven, eight,

613
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: nine years ago and going everybody, we want to do

614
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: a show, and it was nah, oh maybe later were

615
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: working on this, you got some music for that. It

616
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: wasn't panning out, so I just kind of did more

617
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: work out of a bunch of voiceover stuff. I did

618
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: some smaller roles on other films, Dope being one of

619
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: the first, and then we did the YouTube thing for

620
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: a couple episodes and that's kind of how we got

621
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: their chops up and kind of learned how to do it.

622
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: And then I think a year or two after that

623
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: is when we got the opportunity to kind of go

624
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: through Netflix. We'll go with Kenya. We had Kenya and

625
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: a couple other people. Kenya, to me, it was the

626
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: most honest and he was the most understanding that I

627
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 2: was trying to make something and it wasn't I need

628
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: you to make this for me type situation. And so

629
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: we got the situation with him and Netflix and covid hit.

630
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: So we had to sit that out and then when

631
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: covid happened to back up, thankfully, now we're here.

632
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: How did it go? How did it feel taken it

633
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: from YouTube to TV?

634
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: Like?

635
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: What changed? About that format as opposed to the format

636
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: you use for television.

637
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: Everything bad that the YouTube stuff was all in prov

638
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: It was just a set up and I just did

639
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: I just improved and like had you know, good people

640
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: that have been a lot of stuff. Frim Givvens, who

641
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: also was in is in an episode of this, was

642
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: also in that series. But it was just simple. We

643
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: got one set up, we do one things. Of course,

644
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: playing with the idea theatrics, so we have angers on

645
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: every episode. But with the YouTube series, just like, okay,

646
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: how do we create something that feels like Scott pil

647
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: conversetore or how we recreate something that feels like you know,

648
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: old kung fu movie type moment and kind of building

649
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 2: around that one moment for a scene versus having an

650
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: episode of scenes that also has act Greggs. It also

651
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: has transition, also has some sort of narrative engine that

652
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: can drive through an episode. So you gotta basically blow

653
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: out the fucking four to five minute piece, make it

654
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: a forty minute piece for that to be cut to

655
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. So it's just really learning the format was

656
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: the hardest part for me. Crazy and also having a

657
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: lot of hands in the pot like this ain't gonna work,

658
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: this single work. You can't do this. Okay, Now you

659
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: can do this because something just came out that makes

660
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: this okay. Now you know what I mean. So just

661
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: dealing with a lot of the politics and a lot

662
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: of the red tape is the most difficult part, especially

663
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: used to doing shit by yourself, because the music you

664
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: can do whatever fuck you want, right and with that

665
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: it's like, nah, there's certain certain things that have to

666
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: be done.

667
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: You keep saying you wasn't that known as a rapper.

668
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: Why you're saying keep on saying that now you like

669
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: you like top five rapper from Long Beach, which means

670
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: something bruh.

671
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, I get what you're saying. But what I'm

672
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: saying is as far as like a day to day

673
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: basis right, and like the way you can move through

674
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: this business. If you don't got the bottom line to

675
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: support any of these endeavors you're trying to do, it

676
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: don't matter how creative it is. So I got I

677
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: do well, I got multiply them songs, I got go songs.

678
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: I got certain things that certain people never get. But

679
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: it ain't Drake so the door No. But I'm saying,

680
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: the doors that might open for Drake, the doors of

681
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: open for the people, aren't necessarily open for me. So

682
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: I gotta work half white. No, I get just me.

683
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: But but but it's benefits of doing all them things.

684
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: You pull out the meat, but he wouldn't have to

685
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: pull out his meat, clown, you know.

686
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: What I mean.

687
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying it's certain things that just wasn't

688
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: for me, so based on where I was at and

689
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: what I wanted to create, Like, it's certain things, all right,

690
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: So like come on, bring you know me? You don't

691
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: know me, You're like all right, So everybody, No, I

692
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: can lean way more into like to tell shit, I

693
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: can lean way more into like the negative ship. I

694
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: personally don't believe in that based on that that the

695
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: ramifications that had on my life and the people around me,

696
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: But that would make my music make more sense. So

697
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: if I make this kind of music and I lean

698
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: into these elements of music, and it's seeing a certain way,

699
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: the videos look a certain way, the friend group look

700
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: a certain way. To eventually go to look a certain way.

701
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: Now it's okay, we understand it as an artist, and

702
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: it's certain things I just didn't do or didn't relate

703
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: to it just didn't work for me as an artist.

704
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: So that kind of dictated where I'm at. No, I'm

705
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: not saying it to diminists that I've done the music,

706
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: because I'm extremely grateful for it, But I'm just saying

707
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm realistic about what it is. If people are saying, hey, bro,

708
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: we like your interviews, are you funny? We like your videos,

709
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be like I'm I'm making no more

710
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: videos because y'all not paying a signish of the thing

711
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: I want you to pay attention to. You got to

712
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: be aware of what people like from you and take

713
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: it from there. That's really where my standpoint is. I

714
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: don't got I got songs that I've been on the radio,

715
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: and I've got one or two songs that have done

716
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: very well on the radio. Pibly released sixty songs. But

717
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: every time I might do an interview, every time I

718
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: might come up here, people is in the comments having

719
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: more engagement than they would even as far as how

720
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: the album go. So taking that kind of I guess

721
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: information and trying to see how you gonna suspect this

722
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: shit out because all right, I'm thirty right now, Bro,

723
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: who can do this when they sixty who can do

724
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: this when they forty forty five? And I take care

725
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: of my family and things of that nature life. I

726
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: keep it pretty simple. I don't really got aspirations to

727
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: be the most you know, I'm not looking for a

728
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: billion dollars bro, That's just not how I am. So

729
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: I enjoy the privilege of creativity and being able to

730
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: do things that I never thought I would be able

731
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: to do as a child. So I always took the

732
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: way that people view my music and the way that

733
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: people digest anything I did as a positive no matter

734
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: what it is. If people say they don't like something

735
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: I do, that's still positive because they're mostly invested in

736
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: a finit And that just kind of led me down

737
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: this path just being aware of who you are and

738
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: how the world feel about you.

739
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: Our hip hop artists is just limited to music now.

740
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: So nowadays, when I see a hip hop artist, I'm

741
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: not thinking this person is just going to be a

742
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: rapple only because of everything that we've seen from the

743
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: jay Z's and Donald Glovers, all these people that have

744
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: done so many other different things. Yeah, I mean to

745
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: put JD and Donald Glove in the same.

746
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: I feel, and I agree because I felt that way

747
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: my whole life. I've been lucky enough to grow when

748
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: I grew up, But when I was a kid, Tonlok

749
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: was on TV. Ice Cube was already ice Cube. As

750
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: far as film television, Queen of Tifa, Missy Ellie had

751
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: to Show, Eve had a show, Will Smith was Will Smith.

752
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: So I think that it's been really really good groundwork

753
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: laid just for black people in general, but specifically for

754
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: hip hop artists in the past twenty to thirty years.

755
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: I can just it makes it It's limitless. Honestly, the

756
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: things that we get to especially if we trust each

757
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: other and utilize each other these our infrastructure and kind

758
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: of support each other, would be good.

759
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're doing that now in your own lead

760
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: thirty Yeah, I feel right. Oh, but like you, I mean,

761
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: you know from your past experiences what you said. You're like, Yo,

762
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: what I say?

763
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: You said, you're watching the show you're comedian? Tell him?

764
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: What what? Yo? What did you say? What I said?

765
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: He look like what I said? What who? He said?

766
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: He looked like Tammy Campbell? Yeah, I got No, you

767
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: don't look like exactly Cambell.

768
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: No, I said, you look like the dad from sister sisters.

769
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Ray yet Ray.

770
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: But then a little boy too, like you look older,

771
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: but you look younger.

772
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: Little boy what was his name? Uh? I done got

773
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: the dad. I ain't got I ain't got the I

774
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 2: got the boy before. I right, man, shout out the right.

775
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: I don't know who like young you look like, but

776
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, look young and older.

777
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got man going on. I've seen this nigga,

778
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: Professor Ogilvy in the in the airport yesday. Yeah, he's

779
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: still getting red.

780
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: He had the whole.

781
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: He had the whole. It could have been downtown of

782
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: late ship. He got the whole evin Tion set up.

783
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: You know.

784
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: He's in there by hisself for like a He had

785
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: a scarf, phone and a sweater and it was like

786
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: eighty five degrees. You know, he did his ship. Man.

787
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: I've seen Mace. I've seen Mace on the airplane the

788
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: other day with a scarf and a button up with

789
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: like like two orders of roscos.

790
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking.

791
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like nah man, nah, I just seen it.

792
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: I just I just seen his nigga. Don't even know ma,

793
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: he's no lame, but I just seen this nigga and

794
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: he was like in front of the plane. He came

795
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: on late and all that, this nigga Mace man keeping

796
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: it black.

797
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: So slow.

798
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I fucked with Mace. He walked in. It's just

799
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: good to see no entertainers, you know, still thriving, doing good.

800
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: You know.

801
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: He sat next to the white man. The white man

802
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: try to say some funny ship to him, like that

803
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: smells good. He was like, yeah it is, you bitch

804
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: ass nigga, you know what I mean. I appreciated that, man.

805
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: So I feel like I feel like it's been good.

806
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: It's been good. Kind of steps taken to kind of

807
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: make it possible for people like me.

808
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Is it challenging t to take your natural humor and

809
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: wit and put it into a scripted, fictional format.

810
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: Nah, bro, because I don't even be joke like that. Bro,

811
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 2: Like I'll be I'll be chilling, you know, niggas.

812
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: You know I can tell you he's so serious. I'm like,

813
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: why you're gonna bring up what I said?

814
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: Even the way walked in here? Like what's up? Bro?

815
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, Nah, don't tell them nothing.

816
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: Not saying.

817
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: People.

818
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: I don't be tripping. Fuck Uh. The writing is the

819
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: easy part, bro, Like that that's not I think that's

820
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: probably the part I gravitated to the most. And I

821
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: think a thing about making the show, especially when you

822
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: have some sort of notoriety, is that the perception can

823
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: be off right. People was thinking of it's Vince Stables show.

824
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: So like when you're kind of doing the scripts, it's like,

825
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily the main character in any of these episodes.

826
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: The environment is the main character, but it's the show

827
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 2: because like it's my perspective when hobby of the world

828
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: and how I feel black people interact with each other.

829
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: It's not really ever about me in the show at all.

830
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: And I think that's why the writing is really important

831
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: because when you think about the Bank episode, right, the

832
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: Bank episode to me is tackling a lot of things like,

833
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: all right, you just seen today JP Morgan. I've seen

834
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: a clip of the JP Morgan do apologizing for being

835
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: institutional slavery, but that's part of the episode that we have,

836
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's like being able

837
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: to tackle those things are important because I be in

838
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: place and I'd be like, y'all just gonna let these

839
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: white folks like like do this ship in our face,

840
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: like and we all love him so much and not

841
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: just like she don't know white people, like I know,

842
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: I got like I got like, I got like one

843
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: white friend, like probably wanted a half type ship, so

844
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: it's like one and a half. Yeah yeah, well he

845
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: like shix far six eight you know what I mean,

846
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: I got it. I probably say three. I got another

847
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: six foot white boy that he my engineer, so he cound,

848
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: I guess, but shout out tired that what's up?

849
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Bro? But uh yeah, I one, would you now what

850
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: you No?

851
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm not his friend, but no, I don't know

852
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: she white. But my thinking I'm just talking about like

853
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about I'm talking about I'm talking about

854
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: like day to day life stuff. But it's like we

855
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: we bro. The writing of it is important because it's

856
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: so much ship that I think kind of goes unsaid.

857
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: So I like translating into writing it is easier because

858
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: if I just start saying some of the should I

859
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: be feeling, then I'm gonna look crazy.

860
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: No, trust me, you got some of that in here,

861
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: Like when the dude walks away from the family and

862
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: he's like, why are we black?

863
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: But all right, so that's a true story. I got

864
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: an uncle name went for shot, I'll go in with

865
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: that nigga call man, and he got drunk whe and

866
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: he was asking that question. My mom was like, shut

867
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: the fuck up. But I felt bro because I'm like,

868
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: what does that even mean? Like if we really like

869
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: get in deep.

870
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: I don't think you're black if you never asked that question,

871
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: not saying that you don't want to be black when

872
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: you think about all the things black people have had

873
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: to deal with in this country?

874
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: Why are we black?

875
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: But why are we going through this? That's what I

876
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: think he was trying to say, bro.

877
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because was my family is helography, so we had

878
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: like a family type thing and it's like, you know

879
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: sometimes black people like get fake CHURCHI yeah, so my family,

880
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: everybody in my family had a fake like come to

881
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: Jesus moment and it always get way worse when it

882
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: was done. So this was the end of somebody like say,

883
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: of your moment. So my uncle Wifford niggas argue, I

884
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: just got a question. He'said, I just don't understand just

885
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: why is we black? And everybody was like, nigga, shut

886
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: the fuck up, like you drunk, But his feelings was

887
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: really hurt because, like you niggas arguing in my house.

888
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: I don't understand what's going on. It's like if you

889
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: just say that, if I just walked up here and

890
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: said that, I'm a little crazy on the internet. So

891
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: being able to write it and give it context and

892
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: show the things that happened kind of make it a

893
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: little bit easier.

894
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: But he was drunk.

895
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: He was thinking he was your uncle probably been through

896
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: so much and then seeing so much, and it's.

897
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: Like, man, why we gotta And I be feeling bad

898
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: for people from that generation. That's my grandy sister has.

899
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: My grandy sister just died. My grannyme and my grandsister

900
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: just died. They was getting old or whatnot. So I'm

901
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: we at the funeral and I'm like, what's up. I

902
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: gonna going for you good. He's like, yeah, you know,

903
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: Vergie dead, so you know I'm gonna just be at

904
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: the house, like come on down. It's like, damn, nigga,

905
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: Like you don't think that sounds crazy? He's like, what

906
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: you mean? I'm like, your whole life has just been

907
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: sorrow Like niggas talking like a sharecroppery from Arkansas, nigga

908
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: live in Colming. Like it's like he still see horses

909
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: every day, he probably don't see no translation. Yeah, So

910
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: the stuff that we deal with as people, it is

911
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: real interesting, man, and you just gotta kind of tread

912
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: on it lightly just to be I don't even trade

913
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: lightly because when you we making stuff us, we understand it.

914
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: But you want to be I guess sensitive to the

915
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: stuff that we deal with every day, and I make

916
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: it seem like you poking fun at ourselves because what

917
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: we don't want to do is we don't want to

918
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: kind of go to these people's platforms and poke fund

919
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: at ourselves and kind of be slapstickish almost, you know

920
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because with my thing like, oh man,

921
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: it's just dry, this is that hour. But it worked

922
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: for Wilfred, it worked for Lewis your work for Curve

923
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: to work for all these other people. So I can

924
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: do a show like this, Well, we can't start the

925
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: show like this if the perspective ship is gonna be all.

926
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: But if we utilize this lens and then we do

927
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: a slow panel, then we can still showcase the environment

928
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: while showing emotion of the characters and we start talking

929
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: like that, then they gotta just let you do what

930
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: you want to do, which while the information is important

931
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: and riding is important, just making sure that you are

932
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: able to articulate to someone who don't understand because they

933
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: looking at it, it's math because with them, they got

934
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: the world. So they don't got to worry about the

935
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: stuff that they say or the stuff that they do

936
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: because and I'm not saying this in a the meaning way,

937
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: but just like all right, ostensibly just the same stuff

938
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: that we kind of champion Jim carry for, we ship

939
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: on Tyler Perry for. But it's based on the way

940
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: that the circumstances in the community, and you know how

941
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: people view these things, you call them if he was black,

942
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's like you gotta

943
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: be mindful of the fact that people do feel that

944
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: way when you create these things.

945
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: And they have mass representation exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So

946
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: why are we black ship man?

947
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: Because we're lucky? You know what I'm saying. Look at it,

948
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I like it. I wouldn't

949
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: want to be the mother thing, you know what, the

950
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: mother thing?

951
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. Man says being black is dangerous

952
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: but it's cool.

953
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, where your seatbelt? Man? You be at I love

954
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: it right, what's.

955
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: More important to you properly representing Vince Staples in this

956
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: show or properly representing Long Beach.

957
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: I would say probably represent Long Beach to community in general,

958
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: because like I'm I'm mean, you feel me like, don't.

959
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: You don't really know how the world look at you

960
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: in vide you, But I feel like when I was

961
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: younger and I was making music and even just kind

962
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: of getting into the space, and I used to not

963
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: want my homies to come to like videos. I used

964
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: to want my homies and not because I didn't want

965
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: nobody treating them like they weren't adequate. Like I remember

966
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: I shot a video. I shot a video on the

967
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: hood and we was doing like it's a mural on

968
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: the on the side of a store, on side of

969
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: a market that's on sixty four, and my homies was

970
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: driving by, and then like a couple people drive by

971
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: the honey coming, Oh, I know you're shooting a video, niggas, ain't.

972
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: I was rapping like that at the time. Then all

973
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it was like fifty people across the

974
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: street just like hanging cause like my homies is cool,

975
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: and I was just happy that they would treat it well.

976
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: But I was so nervous just for somebody to just

977
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: say something disrespectful or be demeaning, or just treat us

978
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: like our experiences don't matter, because it's like we human,

979
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: we all got interest, we all got we all got

980
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: things that we love, we all got things that we

981
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: want to say and share with the world. And a

982
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: lot of the times, if you not someone that they

983
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: deem is an acceptable version of a negro, you don't

984
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to be showcased. And I got homies

985
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: that's like like like the bank robber, like the prison

986
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: to like underwater welder, to you know, union craftsmen, pipeline

987
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: is real. And I got homies who done sat down

988
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: talking fifteen twenty years as building factories and they have

989
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: pride in that and they feel like they're not greedy

990
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: and they feel like they want to help other people.

991
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: So putting that in appropriate context was important to me

992
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 2: because I can have a homie that can sit down

993
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: and talk to you about anything, but then by yeah,

994
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: out of there fifteen is for murder? Are there fifteen

995
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: for robbing the bank? Then everything that y'all just talked

996
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: about go out of the go out the windows. You

997
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: don't understand that we don't get the opportunity to change

998
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: our lives. You don't get the opportunity to become better people.

999
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: So I don't like seeing that stuff. And it's not

1000
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: that we put it in our art or we kind

1001
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: of promoted because I don't want it to come across

1002
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: like I'm saying that we do it to ourselves. I'm

1003
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: saying the way the world views us is not necessarily fair.

1004
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: So I kind of just wanted to showcase context that.

1005
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Long Beach Mixed Snoop, the most marketable

1006
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: family friendly rapper ever, he a whole crip doing Corona commercials.

1007
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: I would probably say diversity. It's an extremely diverse place.

1008
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: You know, the population a long which is actually surprising

1009
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: to me even when we started. One of my homies

1010
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: is actually the mayor now shoutout rerections and he doing

1011
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: a lot of good things for the city, trying to

1012
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: kind of uplift the north side that hasn't really got

1013
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: that much attention, but he kind of gave us some numbers.

1014
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, you think this. He's like, we

1015
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: was talking about the area and he's trying to develop.

1016
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: But I was like, yeah, like it's it's cool right there,

1017
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: but just make sure y'all know they don't displace nobody.

1018
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: He was like it's impossible. I was like, now, you

1019
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: sound like one of them. And he was like, with

1020
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the people that live in on the

1021
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: North have two parent households, seventy percent make over double

1022
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: the double the whatever salary was like, its like one

1023
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars most people on their homes. Most people this,

1024
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 2: most people have that even though black people are only

1025
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: like twenty thirty thousand of damn near a couple hundred thousand,

1026
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: I means that we're doing pretty relatively well in the city.

1027
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: So I think growing up in a place like that,

1028
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: growing up in a place where you can see the

1029
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: highs and lows of everyone, where it's white people, black people,

1030
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: of Southeast Asian people, Hispanic people, it makes you kind

1031
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: of well around it because we all live on top

1032
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: of each other. Bro. And also with Snoop music, like

1033
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: from maybe from my vantage point, because I know how

1034
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: it is his music was it was burnt out a

1035
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: little bit, but the hits, the things that the world

1036
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: knows Snoop for, It's it's fun loving like Jenn and Juice,

1037
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, Dre d It's not like just like I'm

1038
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: a right around And of course music wasn't like that

1039
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: at that time.

1040
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: It was great record.

1041
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: You don't think like listening to that core progression dred a. Yeah, man,

1042
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: it's really not that getting raped. Oh what's mad?

1043
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean if you go back and listen to the song,

1044
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: it was actually assaulting the men as vengeance.

1045
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: Yes, well I'm not talking about I'm talking I'm not

1046
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: talking about I'm talking about Jules Snoop Doggy Dog. Yeah,

1047
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: Dre was gap teeth, Okay.

1048
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: The video people getting bent over, Yeah, that was a lot.

1049
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: That was a lot. But in his defense, that was

1050
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: Dre song and them niggas from content and them niggas

1051
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: is crazy over there my mom and from the Yeah,

1052
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: get what I'm saying.

1053
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: It's a lot, but nothing but they were fun. The

1054
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: videos is dancing and.

1055
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: All that, and I think that's why people digested Snoop

1056
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: differently regardless of his back like Nigga, I don't have

1057
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: to burn with the hockey jersey and ship like it

1058
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: just it just looked and felt different.

1059
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: Have you ever really tried to get a loan from

1060
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: a bank, Yeah.

1061
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: Mortgages and what have you?

1062
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Did it end up like that?

1063
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: Nah, I got lucky. I got lucky, But I got

1064
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: a homie who has no criminal record, even New Jersey,

1065
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: no criminal record, no nothing, trying to open up alone,

1066
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: to open up a second locase of already successful business.

1067
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: And they're like, I don't know, you don't have this,

1068
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: you don't have that, you don't have that. But I

1069
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: have had meetings. This wasn't in the bank setting where

1070
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 2: they was like, yeah, we just not having a few,

1071
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: and they're like, you need this, you need that, you

1072
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: need that. I mean some of that was kind of

1073
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: the process of what this show was like, kind of

1074
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: taking those meanings and realizing the way that people view

1075
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: entertainers and I guess the fickle nature of this business

1076
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: and how you know it's unforgiven and they're not wrong,

1077
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: but it's a hard thing to swallow as far as

1078
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: being an artist and hearing that in the financial realm,

1079
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: the thing that you've probably dreamed of all your life

1080
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: doing ain't even really the thing. Yeah, and especially for them,

1081
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: so it's like that was a hard thing to kind

1082
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: of grasp. I just kind of wanted to show it

1083
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: in the show.

1084
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Were gonna get out of here minue because you know,

1085
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: we just start to get quiet like this. That means

1086
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: you're ready to.

1087
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Go first of all. But why you get off her

1088
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: head and why I don't understand.

1089
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: I don't know been up here in two weeks.

1090
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: I want to go.

1091
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: I want to leave right.

1092
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: I want to put into you need a vacation.

1093
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: I do thank you to leave them. How do you

1094
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: know when you're pushing boundaries for the sake of shock

1095
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: value versus pushing boundaries to provoke like honest thought and discussion.

1096
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: For me personal bro, Like I'm never really trying to

1097
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 2: do too much, but I'm kind of always doing too much.

1098
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: So I would get a call from him or King King.

1099
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: They'd be like, Nigga, like what's going on, bro, And

1100
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: I'll be like, no, I was trying to oj ship

1101
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: and ship away on that. I was trying to ship

1102
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: because I feel like it's it's just like a sad story,

1103
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: like when we think about how it ended up. Of

1104
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: course he he wiled out or whatever. Yeah, and like

1105
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: his mind is gone obviously, Like when you look at

1106
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: the nigga, talgets something wrong with.

1107
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: Him, but he be saying to normal on cam and

1108
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: make sure to me, but.

1109
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: Bro listen to the speed in which he speaks, the

1110
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: way his eyes look. People's always look dilated. Yeah, that's

1111
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: what I'm That's what I'm saying. I'm not here, That's

1112
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm like, but you think about his

1113
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: background and like really look into his background as far

1114
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: as like his father and his upbringing where he's from. Like,

1115
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: it's a sad story. But when you the man and

1116
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: you got that football, everything matters and you can do

1117
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

1118
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody pays attention to exactly exactly.

1119
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: So they had to make some calls like you can't.

1120
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: I had some shit in there that was probably a

1121
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: little bit too far, but they was like, man, yeah,

1122
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: you can't do this, you can't do that. So if

1123
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: I get some call call from Kenya or him are

1124
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: like eight o'clock in the morning, seven o'clock in the morning,

1125
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: they just had a meeting and I was doing too much.

1126
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Those calls are pissed me off, though, because how do

1127
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: we know I can't do it? If the networks that

1128
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: I can't do no, let's not let us stop.

1129
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: Well, no, the thing is because if they wouldn't, if

1130
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: they didn't fill hm a little bit. They wouldn't call

1131
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: got you got you got? Okay, that's what I'm saying.

1132
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: They call me the net because they probably got a

1133
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: call every day. That ain't my problem, but when they

1134
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: called it like, hey, this might be a little too

1135
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: much so and I think it's off perception that most

1136
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: for you, I say, ninety seven ninety eight percent of

1137
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: the time, but sometime I think it's the perception of

1138
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: things like it's never like a you trip and it's

1139
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: I get what you how to do. It's not gonna

1140
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: work that way, which is important to me because I

1141
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: want things to translate correctly.

1142
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: Random question from the show, would you really want a

1143
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: digital consciousness?

1144
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: Hell? Nah, I do that, bro. I don't even want

1145
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: no smartphone. Bro, I get it. I'm cold man. And

1146
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: they whooped us with the cars because now you know

1147
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: what I mean. You got all the all the connectivity

1148
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: type situations. But I'm over it.

1149
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

1150
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: Every time somebody face timed me, I get hot. Yeah,

1151
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to look at you. Don't just throw

1152
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: your face like in my life irritate me. I'm I'm cool.

1153
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: So you really you don't really be on social media

1154
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: that much? You got a flip phone.

1155
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: I used to when I first got a dial. I

1156
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: look crazy in the meanings though, I look crazy and

1157
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: in me knowing nobody gonna give me no deal life

1158
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: to step it up, go to the Apple store. But yeah,

1159
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 2: I was, I was. I was slumming it for a minute.

1160
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: They really thought he was older than you. Put it

1161
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: on the flip phone.

1162
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: And I had and I had no cut cut and

1163
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: like my shit little lopsided, So like I was there

1164
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: with the other mafro with the cut, like, what's up

1165
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: you doing?

1166
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: A crooked afro with a flip phone and the mustache.

1167
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: He had a he had coming, like nigga start wearing

1168
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: basketball shirts and hitties and ship to these means. I'm like,

1169
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: I was at the house like it was grimy.

1170
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: Have you really never fell in love with hip hop?

1171
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: What I meant by that was like, what's that moment?

1172
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: Like if when do you fall in love with your mama?

1173
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: You feel me? When do you fall in love with

1174
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: your father? Like people be I wasn't trying to be

1175
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: fucked up, but when people not black, they got different experiences.

1176
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: Nigga weird? And when do you discover hip hop? If

1177
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: you were born in nineteen ninety three in the ghetto.

1178
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: When do you walk into a place and they're like, hey, nigga,

1179
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: this is hip hop that shit don't fucking like, what

1180
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: the fuck do we be talking about my nigga like that?

1181
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: That's to ask me when I fell in love with

1182
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: like char Cooterie or like some stupid white people shit

1183
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: like hip hop is a part of I'm black. It's

1184
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: just there as it's been there, Like, I don't know,

1185
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: Like that's a that's crazy easy to think about. Bro.

1186
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: It's like a niggas when they met Jesus, like, nigga,

1187
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: what I'm black? Should we just do it?

1188
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: This is my last question, Jesse, do anything? Okay? Then

1189
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: my last question. Me and Glasses of Alone was having

1190
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: a conversation right and Glasses was saying, how if you're

1191
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: not from like like hip hop in order to be

1192
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: hip hop has to be from the hood and have

1193
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: a street aesthetic and be on I always say you

1194
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be on some gangster shit. He says, No,

1195
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: that's not what he's saying to me. You hip hop.

1196
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: Kendrick is hip hop, Cole is hip hop. Y'all don't

1197
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: have to do no criminal shit to be considered hip hop?

1198
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Do you think you have to do because you said

1199
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: that earlier, you talk about could show my my environment, right,

1200
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: I can create better music.

1201
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: Then Glasses be saying half of what he's trying to say,

1202
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: that's my dog, So I know he be bushing. And

1203
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: as you ask, do you I feel like the important

1204
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: sentence is for it to be accepted fully because the

1205
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: way that we viewed certain things, that's a very big

1206
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: part of hip hop. That's a very big part of

1207
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: black hole, which're a very big part of being a

1208
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: black male. To be honest, that's a big part of

1209
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: manhod in the general, especially for a black man. So

1210
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 2: if you're making hip hop and you're saying you come

1211
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: from all these things, but it feels different. It feels

1212
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: like it's not how they view us, because let's let's

1213
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: be real, bro, we thirteen forty percent is this fucking

1214
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: population We got to sell things to people that's not us.

1215
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: So for it to translate, oh, I know what that is.

1216
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, sports, god, jerseys, bro just

1217
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: is what it is like. So I feel like for

1218
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: it to fully translate and kind of rease certain heights

1219
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: based on how people perceive it most of the time.

1220
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: It does have to be that, but that don't make

1221
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: it right, damn.

1222
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: So you think you got to have the street elements

1223
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: and the hood elements.

1224
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: I think for their understanding and digestion of it. But

1225
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: what is the street element of it? And what is

1226
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 2: the hood element? It struggle, It's poverty, it's lack of resources,

1227
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: it's lack of family, it's lack of all these things.

1228
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: And that's just the Black experience based on how the

1229
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: world sees it. So it's not just violence. Violence is

1230
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: just the biggest part of it as far as how

1231
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: we speak about it, read like think about I know

1232
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: they exist, but it's way more mother records than it

1233
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: is father records. You get what I'm saying. It's just

1234
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: how our community looks and how kind of we view it,

1235
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I feel like like

1236
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: I get older and I'm like I feel bad, like

1237
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: kind of for my father, Like the relationship that we

1238
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: have home. It's like, all right, you got incarceration issue,

1239
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: you got substance issues, Like it ain't like you. It's

1240
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, I ain't coming home, won't fuck with

1241
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: these kids. But based on the perception of how we

1242
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: were taught to view ourselves from the world around us.

1243
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: Everybody said, we ain't got no dady, instead of understanding

1244
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: the circumstances, you know what I mean. So I feel

1245
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: like it's kind of that with hip hop, is just

1246
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: understanding the circumstances a little bit better. But whenever they

1247
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: had these conversations about hip hop, especially in California, I

1248
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: feel like we overlook a lot of successful things just

1249
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: because they not viewed as gangster shit like we Ain't.

1250
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody talking about the far Side or souls of

1251
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: menishit for all these other hybrid successful things. Don't nobody

1252
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: even bring up mc hammer, you know, ain't nobody bringing

1253
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: up too Short like that? And they have street elements

1254
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: to music that was from the hood, but it wasn't

1255
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: viewed like at RBO posse Like it's a lot of stuff.

1256
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: So I feel like it just depends on what you

1257
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: look at.

1258
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: Why are we black Man? Vince Table Show is out

1259
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: now on Netflix. Thank you for coming, Vince.

1260
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

1261
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: Appreciate you brother. It's the Breakfast Club.

1262
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

1263
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: Wake that hands up in the morning. The Breakfast Club