1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast has outperformed it's rookie contract. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another disition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas name, joined by a room 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: What up, boys, Hey Dan, it's happening. I'm I'm gonna 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: be honest with you. I'm a little bit nervous right 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: now because he had never done it before. Chris Westling 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: dropped a let's make some magic right before we started taping, 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: And now all I can think about is the pressure 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: to deliver a high quality podcast, a lot of pressure, 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: and you know history doesn't suggest that will necessarily hit 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: this side of the park. There were twenty three other 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: things mumbled by the four of us before the podcast, 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: and that was the one thing you chose to wormed 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: its way into my mind. Well, we're now at the 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: point where, like last year, at this point is we 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: just had a feeling of excitement. We're so happy to 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: do another podcast, But now the famous hit, the money, 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: the women, the drugs, and now we feel like now 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: there's more pressure on us to deliver. Hoarding all those 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: benefits for yourself, none of those spoils will come to us. 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: This is our big preview show of the upcoming football week, 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: where we get into every game on the schedule, a 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 1: preview of the mall, one by one, each game getting 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: a special amount of time so we could really let 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: it marinate within our souls. Um, so we're gonna get 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: get to that. But why don't we just right off 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: the top? Uh, Mark and West. You're going to stay 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: behind later today you're gonna watch the Thursday night game 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Atlanta Falcons, and then 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna record. So let's throw it to you to 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: talk about the game. Does that make sense? Its technically 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: makes sense, all right, So let's do that alright. So 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: we are fresh off the heels of what can only 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: be described as a tremendous butt kicking a fifty six 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: fourteen Atlanta Falcons victory over the hapless Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with Chris Wesley and your thoughts. It 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: was the kind of game where the leads to our 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: stories right themselves. Yeah, why don't you uh tell the 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: listeners what you wrote? You know, this game was over 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: so quickly in the scoring from Atlanta came so rapidly 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: that within I'd say, seven minutes of the game starting, 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: I I am, do you my lead? And I mean 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: I Usually those things melt away ten minutes later, but 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: it's stuck, and uh here it was. It was a 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: collection of fifty three men pretending to be the Tampa 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers invaded Atlanta on Thursday night. Their ruse was 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: quickly exposed, very quickly exposed. Oh that's good. A false 49 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: football team, mind was what happens when a perfect storm 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: meets a comedy of errors. After falling to the inimitable 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Derek Anderson and a neo fight Austin Davis in the 52 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: first two weeks this season, and Love E. Smith depleted 53 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers laid a terodactyl sized egg in a 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: fifty six to fourteen thrashing at the Georgia Dome Thursday night. 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: I like it. I guess with this kind of a game, 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: it's I I struggle what's the bigger story? Is it 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: that Atlanta looked this good? Or was Tampa? Are they 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: really this this bat of a football team? I thought 59 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: all along it was thirty five to nothing at halftime. 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: By the time it was nothing. I thought the story 61 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneer season was over. Yeah, it 62 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: looks it because they beyond the injuries on defense and 63 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: you know the questionable play from the offensive line and 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: what that means for Josh McCown. They looked to me 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: like a team that gave up. They they look they 66 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: look like they laid down in the second half. They 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks who couldn't play well. I didn't think 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: Glennon was any better than account neither one and got 69 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: much help. By the time Glennon finally moved the offense, 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: it was fifty six to nothing and the Falcons were 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: definitely about to board the team playing at that point. 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: And on flip side, you know Matt Ryan, who arguably 73 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in Week one in that win over 74 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans, comes out tonight. They pull a midway through 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: the third quarter with this thing on ice. He's twenty one, 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: sets a franchise record in a game for completion percentage, 77 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: three touchdowns in a sky high quarterback rating. But maybe 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: even the bigger story was the continued dominance of Julio Jones. Yeah, 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: he was the best player on the field by far. 80 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: I thought hester had a great night. Matt Ryan had 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: one of the best nights of his career, but it 82 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: was Julio Jones making a lot of that happen. Yeah, 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: I thought he was the best player. Matt Ryan now 84 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: two out of three weeks. I mean, he he's had 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: a career highing yards in Week one, one of the 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: best games of his career. Tonight he sets a career 87 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: high in almost every percentage category you could have. So 88 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: it tells me that this offense is going to continue 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: to light it up all season long. Yeah, they have 90 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: to be taken very seriously. And you know, credit to 91 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta for what they've done with Devin Hester, who you know, 92 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: struggled to find a team for a while there after 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: his career in Chicago. Tonight a re Kurd setting night 94 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: for him. He breaks Dion Sanders career record with his 95 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: twenty career returned touchdown. But you know it's it's how 96 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: they're using him all over the place. He he made 97 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: an excellent play on an early what would have been 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: potentially a pick six by Buck safety Mark Baron. He 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: stripped him of the ball and then he ran for 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown on an end around later, which basically put 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: the nail on the coffin. He had another twenty five 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: yard reception, and he had two long touchdowns that were 103 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: nullified by penalties. To me, it was just that contrast 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: of seeing Lovey Smith across the field and when I 105 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: used to write for Rhoda World for Fantasy Football, every 106 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: time the Bears talked about utilizing him as a receiver, 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: I would say skeptics skepticisms advised because the Bears coaching 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: staff could not creatively use him, and after three games 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, it's obvious that they can. And it just 110 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: to me this speaks to the larger problem with this 111 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: Buccaneers team. I don't know if Lovey smiths the guy 112 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: to lead them, and he couldn't creatively defend a guy 113 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: that he knew so well, you know. I don't know why, 114 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: but Tampa kept kicking the bald Hester over and over 115 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: with this game completely out of the way. I it 116 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: seemed to me an odd coaching decision. After I watched 117 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: the Week two game the Bucks game this morning on 118 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: Game rewind, I had major issues with Lovey Smith's offensive philosophy, 119 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: and tonight didn't make me feel any better about that. 120 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: He's known for defense and I came out of this 121 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: game question in his zone scheme where they don't press 122 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: any receivers the line of scrimmage, and you've got Julio Jones, 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Devin Hester, Harry Douglas running Scott free through the secondary 124 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: all night long. Really troubling. All right, So two quick 125 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: questions before we go for you, Chris. Number One, are 126 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: the Falcons a playoff team? I think you have to 127 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: consider that they are definitely in the wild Carret hunt 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: and with the Saints at oh and two, I still 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: feel like the Saints are the favorite in the division, 130 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: but you can't rule out the Panthers or the Falcons 131 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: for that division. Second question, Lovey Smith obviously very early 132 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: to take a look at where he's at in terms 133 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: of his career. With this team really troubling out of 134 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: the gate, though, do you feel like Tampa is in 135 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: a reboot the machine mode in terms of where he's at. 136 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: They're definitely a team that's building, They're not competing, and 137 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: I think they have a lack of team speed. They 138 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: have problems on the offensive line, they don't know who 139 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: their quarterback is, and it's we have to point out 140 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: that their best defensive player, Jerald McCoy wasn't on the field, 141 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: but they were. They gave a fifty six point in 142 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: three quarters. That's not in NFL caliber defense, not in 143 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: the least. All Right, We've got a ton of other 144 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: games to cover, so let's get back down to the 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: studio for that awesome Alright, gentlemen, thank you for that 146 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: very good work. So let's now get into the rest 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: of the games. Are gonna preview each game, and I 148 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: guess we'll start with something that we did last year. 149 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: We got away from it last week. We we're gonna 150 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: bring it back. So we're gonna start with picking each 151 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: of us pick what is the game you most look 152 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: forward to in week three? And we will start with 153 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: the scientist, Chris Westling, the mail man. What game jumps 154 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: out at you? I like Steelers Panthers lay past year's 155 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: team of a t L versus my nomination for this 156 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: year's team, and that is sexy. I think it's sexy. 157 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: So what it tell us? What do you think about 158 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: the game? Well, Carolina to me still is the best 159 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: front seven in the NFL. Even without Greg Hardy. Mario 160 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Addison filled in for him at two and a half 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: sacks last week. They've got second rounder Coney Eally who's 162 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: getting playing time, and Keith Lee and Davis are still 163 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: playing as well as any two linebackers in the NFL, 164 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: So that's pretty exciting. And then the Steeler's offense. To 165 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: me Levy on Bell, we talked about this on the 166 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: last podcast. Greg wouldn't be surprised if at the end 167 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: of the year he's a top five consensus running back. 168 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised by that either. To me, he's 169 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: one of the most fun players to watch right now. 170 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Marcus Wheaton. They were clearly trying to get him more 171 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: involved last week, and they did so. Antonio Brown's fun 172 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: to watch. I just think there's a really fun too 173 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: fun teams to watch. We worried at all about the 174 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: lack of production from the Steelers offense last week. I mean, 175 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: you do have a lot of talent. Marcus Wheaton's looked 176 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: good and then the only put up six points in 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore and now you gotta go face one of the 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: best defenses in the league. They imploded, and they moved 179 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: the ball just fine early on, they had a couple 180 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: of big fumbles and they weren't the same offense once 181 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown had got knocked a little bit woozy, so 182 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: to me, that was when they pretty much turned the 183 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: game around when Antonio Brown wasn't right. Some of us 184 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: those divisional a f C North til It's especially aren't 185 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: indicative of what happens outside of the division. I wonder 186 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: what the Panthers offense, who has not looked good running 187 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: the ball at all this year. They're probably gonna get 188 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: back to Angel Williams whether they can move it on 189 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh's defensive line has not been impressive their 190 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: thirtieth in the NFL and rush defense right now. I 191 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: think that with the Panthers a little bit misleading a 192 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: lot of us, their offensive line Jonathan Stewart has broken 193 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: more tackles than any running back except to Margot Murray 194 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: this year, and he probably has what two and a 195 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: half yards per carried a show for it. He's breaking 196 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: tackles that he just needs more holes. I think the 197 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: Steelers defense, which we've talked up as faster, and they 198 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: are and they have more exciting players, but they've looked 199 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: like a average unit at best so far. I would 200 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: say Cleveland's offense pushed them around physically and Baltimore did 201 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: the same thing, and that's that's how the Panthers want 202 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: to attack you too. I know, watching like Ryan Shazier 203 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: both of his games, people are talking about how he's 204 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: been out of position a lot, but there's nothing about 205 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: him that doesn't suggest a guy who's going to be 206 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: a fixture for that team for a really long time. 207 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: He is so fast and well and there's a reason 208 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: why Ken Drill Brett Kendrell Bell a long time ago 209 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: was the last defensive rookie to start for Dick le Beau. 210 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: It takes a long time to learn his system and 211 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: that's why Stefan to It hasn't really played much either. 212 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: He's played about ten snaps per game. I think both 213 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: of those guys, as a year ago goes along, will 214 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: contribute to a better run defense. Sessler might be the 215 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: foremost expert on ranches here in the entire country right 216 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: now because of his weekly Rookie Watch article that everyone 217 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: shoof reading. He's just focusing in on the rookies this year. 218 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: You got a PhD. And he assuming the guy that 219 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: my right Chris Wesley, and has watched every snap. But 220 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: you're you're like, you're typing in Shasier's name just looking 221 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: at him and all the rookie I'm just saying people 222 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: should read the Rookie Watch every week. Byes, we all 223 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: picked the Panthers right across the boarding. Let a surprise, 224 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: West didn't take a Steelers to bounce back in this 225 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: game on the road. Was it was a bit of 226 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: a coin flip game. I leaned towards the Panthers, but 227 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: I just liked what I saw out of the Panthers 228 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: last week. Cam Newton, we were worried in the preseason 229 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: that he wouldn't his ankle wouldn't be right. He looked 230 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: like the same old Cam Newton to me last week, 231 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: and Chris, I'm concerned. Sorry to take a one and 232 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: two Steelers team up to the board for another round 233 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: of team of a t L discussion. It would depend 234 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: on how they look if they lose. I mean, if 235 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: they lose in this close game and they're exciting to watch, 236 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: I'll be fine with it. As Greg greg has pointed out, 237 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: the Panthers were two and three when we picked them 238 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: last year. The Steelers offensive lines that started to look 239 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: like the Steelers offensive line of old two when when 240 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: they stunk we expected this group to be a lot 241 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: better and this is a really tough matchup for them. 242 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: So I'll be watching those tackles who got abused last week. 243 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, you highlighted the Cleveland Browns against the Baltimore 244 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Ravens that you're most excited about obvious reasons with the Browns, 245 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: I would think, but also you see this as a 246 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: great a f C battle between two potential playoff teams. 247 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting checkmark for well, you know what, 248 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: which Ravens team are we gonna get the Week one 249 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: team where Joe Flacco throws for sixty two pass attempts 250 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: and they look completely out of their element? Or Week two? 251 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: I thought that what we saw against the Steelers was 252 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: what they brought Kubiak to Baltimore for to run that 253 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of an offense. Flacco is thirteen of thirteen on 254 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: past attempts inside the hash marks and within ten yards. 255 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: That's a short passing game has been successful with Cleveland. 256 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: The matchup for me, because you know, Baltimore's past protection 257 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: has been very good, and what the what the Browns 258 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: were able to do and what they tried to do 259 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: last week against New Orleans was takeaway Brandon Cooks and 260 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Colston take away the downfield passing at the expense of 261 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham going off and even the running game going 262 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: off to some degree. Now, how do you deal with 263 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Do you try to do the same thing 264 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: with Steve Smith and Tori Smith at the expense of 265 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Pita and whatever run game they have. I don't know that. 266 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: I thought the Cleveland's defense versus in previous years. Flacco 267 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: is eleven and one against the Browns. They've never really 268 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: game planned to remove certain guys and succeeded that we saw. 269 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: We saw pett And do that last week with the Saints. 270 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. Can they do that 271 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: with Baltimore. Let's talk worst case scenario, Mark and the 272 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: Browns get wiped out and it's a bad loss. Do 273 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: you think it's possible that you start to hear Johnny 274 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Manziel talk for week four if that's something that happens. Well, 275 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of like West just mentioned with the Steelers, 276 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: it depends how they lose. I'm saying, if they get 277 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: wiped out and look terrible offense, can't move the ball, yeah, 278 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if it you know, the one thing about Hoyer. 279 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: You can look at the nice comeback win, but a 280 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: lot of his past attempts were disturbing. Last week, he 281 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a good deep ball. He seems out 282 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: of chemistry in terms of anything that's beyond sort of 283 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: an intermediate rollout bootleg type pass. I mean, their offense 284 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: is limited from that angle. Question is, though, what is 285 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: it that man It's not Blake Bortles sitting on the 286 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: bench with a big strong arm. I'm not sure Manzel 287 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: solves some of those issues in that offense. When I 288 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: when I've seen the box scores, or at least how 289 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: many points the Brown scored, when I've dialed up those 290 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: Brown schemes, I've expected Hoyer to play a little better 291 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: than he really has. He's played exactly like you would 292 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: have expected going into this season. I don't think he's 293 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: looked particularly good. No, yes, and I think he's kept 294 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: the mistakes in terms of critical turnovers to a minimum. 295 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: He's got something like a hundred and thirty nine attempts 296 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: without it. Pick some of them comes, there's no question, 297 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: and that's gonna come. There's he's gonna make that critical mistake. 298 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: Can they get beyond that with their ground game and 299 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the I was impressed with the atmosphere 300 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: in Cleveland Stadium was rocking. Yeah, well they I mean, 301 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: that's not been an issue in the past, in the 302 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: deep past, when they were a good team. And I'm 303 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: you've been like the Ronald Reagan even as far back, 304 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: or is not so far back as last October Holier's 305 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: game where you got hurt. That crowd is into it 306 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: that night. They just need something to cheer for you. Well, 307 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: you realize they're probably grandfather's in Cleveland trying to explain 308 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: to their grandsons what a winning atmosphere looks like. This 309 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: is how we respond to something positive on the field. 310 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: What about the revenge factor? Mike Petton gave old Gary 311 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: Kubiak a call early in the off season. Hey, Gary, 312 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: you're interested in coaching maybe this year? Oh no, I'm 313 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: not sure, man, I might retire, you know, I'm not 314 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: really sure what I'm gonna do. Okay, we won't interview 315 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: a week or two later, whatever it is. Of course, 316 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: I'll take a job with the Ravens, a successful organization. 317 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: I'll go over there now to offenses very similar clashing. 318 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: It's possible you could have had Shanahan in Baltimore and 319 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: Kubiak in Cleveland. But now you've got the reverse, and 320 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I'll roll with Shannahan if you're dare you carry Kubiak? 321 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: How dare? And before we move on, not only does 322 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: uh does Mark pick the Browns, he has them as 323 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: his power pick, which means you're relatively certain the Browns 324 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: will win and are right up. I am ordered through 325 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: the corporate forces to write the power pick so you 326 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: can you can pick any game you want, any game. 327 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: This is sponsored Great Battery Giant. And also you wrote 328 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: Hoyer gonna be Hoyer, and I needed to get out 329 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: of that. You know that work order as fast as possible. 330 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I want to put seven sentences together. 331 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: I just wrote, Hoy, You're gonna Hoyer. I don't even 332 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: know if that's good. You can't forget that the m 333 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: v P Award with that coin taken away. Moving forward, 334 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: just as Mark picked the Browns, I picked the Jets 335 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: and Bears as the game. I'm excited about Monday night 336 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: football at the meadow Lands. The Jets have been an 337 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: exciting team to watch so far. They're moving the ball 338 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: on offense. I've had some impact plays on defense. They've 339 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: also been very hard to make sense of from uh 340 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: forget about game to game, quarter to quarter. They're a 341 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: tough team to figure out. But there's some juice there 342 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: and you can get excited about him. The Bears coming 343 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: off a really I would assume as an emotional win 344 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: for that team on a Sunday night, great comeback, getting 345 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick to uh really butcher that home opener at 346 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: Levi Stadium. So the Bears are feeling good. The Jets 347 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: are coming off that close loss to the Packers. I 348 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: think it's an interesting game. I was surprised that we 349 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: all picked the Jets. Stunned, Actually twenty of America on 350 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: that weekly Pick the Game where you can see our 351 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: picks under the little Experts tag Pick the Jet. Three 352 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: quarters of the nation picked the Bears. All five A 353 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: t L members picked the Jets. So that's interesting to me. 354 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious why you all think the Jets will win. Well, 355 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: I wish I knew Eric Decker was not gonna play. 356 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: We don't know that for sure, but as we're taping 357 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: your Thursday, he's missed two straight. Practical they're my team 358 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: of h L and so I had to if they 359 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: can't beat the Bears. Well, if they can't beat the Bears, 360 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna continue down that road, Okay, that's Fairs. Well. 361 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: I think from the comments I get on Twitter, people 362 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: think that a lot of thought and announcements go into 363 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: these picks. I'm usually just going down, flipping the thing 364 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: from one side to, you know, whatever my gut feel 365 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: is at the time. And I don't even know why 366 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: I picked the Jets. I think the Jets have shown 367 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: signs Geno Smith is really indicative of this whole team. 368 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: For a quarter or a little time, You're just like, Wow, 369 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: this is this Jets team is really looking better on 370 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: offense than they have at any point since Rex has 371 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: been there, you know, other times not so great. But 372 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the feeling to me. It was 373 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: more of a pick against the Bears. I'm not buying 374 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: the Bears. Right. Are we allowed to change our picks 375 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: if Eric Decker does not play, because, as I've mentioned 376 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: in the last two podcasts that Jeremy Curley David Nelson 377 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps is a death knell for any passing game. 378 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: I think we should be allowed because that offense fell apart. 379 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: Last week when he was on the sidelines, Decker was 380 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: a big part of them jumping out to the three lead. 381 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: They weren't the same what he was at, but they 382 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: were kind of trending downward even when Decker was in there. 383 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: He could have had an even bigger game. He had 384 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: a nice game. Decker a nice touchdown. He was wide 385 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: open for what it would have been a seventy yard 386 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: touchdown and Gino Smith overthrew him. So they had a 387 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: couple of plays in the preseason two. Yeah, we talked 388 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: about the Jets secondary so much off season. They've been 389 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: very good, well I don't know about very good. I 390 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: guess they. But this week is going to be tough, 391 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: and we're not even sure D Milner is going to 392 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: start again this week. He's probably gonna play. He's still 393 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: got the ankle issue going on. He got burned by 394 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson on an eight yard touchdown the week two, 395 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: so we don't know if he's playing. We still don't 396 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: know if he's good either, So there's all that stuff. 397 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: But well, you're losing the number one cornerback in the 398 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: NFL according to the Milner household, According to D himself. 399 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't even know if his parents believe that. But anyway, 400 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: so we all picked the Jets. Will be interesting to 401 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: see how they play on Monday Night against Jay Cutler, 402 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: who has historically performed well against the Jets. All right, 403 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: moving forward to Greg Rosenthal, who took the obvious one. 404 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: Just called Mr obvious old captain? Oh yeah, who would 405 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: want to pick the Broncos and Seahawks, the two best 406 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL over the last two years, combined 407 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: rematch of the Super Bowl that wasn't the greatest game ever, 408 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: But these are not the same Broncos. Let's just say 409 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: it might have been the worst game ever. Yeah, it 410 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: was terrible game, but I think this game is gonna 411 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: be a lot better. We all took the Seahawks, and 412 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: that's the logical thing to do at home, But I 413 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a competitive game. And these 414 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: aren't your same Broncos. They're gonna have eight different starters 415 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: on defense than the defense that lined up in that 416 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: warm New Jersey night, unseasonably warm. You know they got 417 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: they got the whole secondaries. Change Chris Harris's back, where 418 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: he Moore's back, Von Miller's back, Ryan Claydy's back. It's 419 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: a different team. Emmanuel Sanders is there right there we go, 420 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: and I don't think they've been dominant this year, but 421 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: I think their defense is better and that's why it'll 422 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: be a good game. I feel sorry for the Broncos. 423 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: Why is that going into Seattle with the Seahawks coming 424 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: off a loss. Pete Carroll's gonna have him focused, and 425 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's Pete Carroll. I think 426 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: this group of players, it's probably underrated how smart and 427 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: tough they are. Then they have a lot of pride. 428 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: You know, We've seen teams that are winners, the old Yankees, 429 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: winners with Bernie Williams, Marianna Rivera. They expect to win 430 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: every time they see. Look, I'm not into your little 431 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: Red Sox Sorces Yankees thing. I'm just saying teams that 432 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: are winners and innately believed that they should win every game. 433 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: I think that's what the Seahawks are right. Don't forget 434 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: Steve Belboni, buddy Yankee, and they're talking at Royals. You're 435 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: talking about mental toughness. It's a great test of the 436 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: Broncos because if they fall down in this game in Seattle. 437 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: That's the toughest test that you could ever have, because 438 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: they're going to have those memories of when their dreams 439 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: were crushed back in February. To stick in that game, 440 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: I think we'll learn a little something. It's still Pete 441 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: Carroll versus John Fox too, That's true. John Fox got 442 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: horribly out coaching that Super Bowl. And and yeah, having 443 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: been in that stadium week one, I'm not gonna pick 444 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: against Seattle or that was an electric place to play. 445 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's, you know, the best home field 446 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: advantage in football right now. So I will never go 447 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: against the shame west of St. Louis West. Yeah, of course, 448 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Edward James Dome is a special place, hollowed ground in 449 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. I think it was. I think it was 450 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: Edward Jones, and I could be wrong, but I think 451 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: that company went out of business or something like that. 452 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: I would think it's no longer the stadium. I don't 453 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: think that's a child. I had some sort of low 454 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: level like fifteen twenty bucks saved in some Edward Jones 455 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: account that was supposed to pave the way, and it's 456 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: from your paper. I'm sorry, Edward. If you're out there. 457 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: I completely made it up. It's still the name of this. 458 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Jones is listening to the podcast with a tier running 459 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: down his cheek. No different ends or maybe anyway. We 460 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: move forward. Now it's time for the segment that we 461 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: all love so much. Defend your hero, Defend your hero, 462 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: Defend your hero. We will start with the great Chris Westling, 463 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: who got excited and he said, I really think in 464 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: this Redskins Eagles game, one of those teams will win. 465 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: According to my notes, I didn't mark which one you picked. 466 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: Come on, what do you think is the hero? I'm 467 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: thinking most likely the Redskins are your pick. Nicely deduced, 468 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, nailed it. You want some reasons, 469 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: I've got three great reasons. Number one, Nick Foles has 470 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: held the offense hostage through two games. The entire first 471 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: first game, he held him hostage. In the second game, 472 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: they didn't move the ball until they put the ball 473 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: and Darren sprawls his hands and it was all screen passes. 474 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: Folds has not played well. On the other hand, the 475 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: Redskins offense moves better with Kirk Cousins than the August 476 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: early September version of r G three. Kirk Cousins had 477 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: no problem moving the ball in the Jaguars, who everyone 478 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: believed were a frisky defense until that game. I didn't 479 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: think they were, but anyway, Third reason Redskins defense number 480 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: one in Football Outsiders dv o A right now. Part 481 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: of that is because they've played the Jaguars and the Texans. 482 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: Part of that is because Jason Hatcher is playing awesome. 483 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: Keenan Robinson is a major upgrade on Fletcher at middle linebacker. 484 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of good things going on defense. 485 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: They actually have a little speed on their defense this year. 486 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I like that Wesley has uh constructed a scenario where 487 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: he bets against Chip Kelly two times in six days 488 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: and goes into that's a fair point. Well, he got 489 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: very unlucky the other day. I mean that was a 490 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: game the Colts really gave away. They should have won. 491 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: That's true, West showing some large stones with this choice. 492 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: The Skins taken down the Eagle. I think the Redskins 493 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: are a much better team than than is conventionally believe. 494 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that people just believe because it 495 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: was against the Jaguars that are performing that dominant doesn't 496 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: mean anything but bad teams don't crush any NFL team 497 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: like that. That that was an eye opening performance by Washington, 498 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: and they played pretty well on defense the first game. 499 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: You know, if it wasn't for the punt return block touchdown, Yeah, 500 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: that would have been seven to seven in the first week. Well, 501 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: bad teams don't have ten sacks in the game either, right, 502 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: So I'm interested. I don't think it's that crazy. I 503 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: think it was a savvy pick. It feels like it's 504 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: one of those early season games that Okay, all right, 505 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: the NFC is gonna be a little different. The Eagles 506 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: have been severely outplayed in two different halves of the 507 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: first two games. Issue, right, And that's why I'd still 508 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: roll with Kelly and the Eagles, because they can win 509 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: when they're not at their best. You do figure they're 510 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna play better. Well, you don't know Sean Jackson's even 511 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: gonna play. And they won't be coaching against Pep Hamilton's 512 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: this week, so that's that might be a problem for 513 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: they have Jim Haslett and a groan. So anyway, yes, 514 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: West was the only person to pick the Redskins, and 515 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: he has defended his hero and now as I look 516 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: a little closer I see that Chris Wesley has two 517 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: hero picks. Defend your hero. Get excited, America because Chris 518 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: Westling believes that the Buffalo Bills are going to protect 519 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: their home turf against the Chargers, a team of a 520 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: t L nominee and win it. And Chris Westling tell us, 521 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: why defend your hero? I think if any of you 522 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: guys have watched the Bills game on Game rewind, you'd 523 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: be taking them too. The Charges were impressive and beating 524 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I thought the Bills were even more impressive 525 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: and basically tearing apart the Dolphins their defense. I was skeptical. 526 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: I thought Patton was so good with him last year. 527 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: I thought Kiko Alonso was great, Jared's burb was great. 528 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: I thought they're gonna miss all those guys. This defense 529 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: can erasse the quarterback. They don't miss any time, and 530 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: they're sticky and coverage. They're always getting their hands on 531 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: the ball and coverage. Corey Graham had a great game, 532 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: uh Nickel, Robie, Seriously, they all they were all flying. 533 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Williams, They're flying around the ball. They're a different team. 534 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: At home. That stadium was probably a little bit more 535 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: electric than Cleveland's, which also was I like everything about 536 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: the Bills at home right now. This it reminds me 537 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of when they were two and o 538 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and had a big Week 539 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: three game. No one thought they were gonna win, and 540 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: they took out the Patriots with Ryan Fitzpatrick to go 541 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: three and oh, a start that no one remembers because 542 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: it didn't go anywhere, and that's what happened. Buffalos had 543 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: some of these quick starts over the last two years. 544 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Not that has anything to do with this team. Here's 545 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: the thing's a little interesting to me. They beat Jay 546 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: Cutler in Week one, and you know, Jay Cutler, you 547 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: can never figure that guy out. Beat Ryan Tannehill in 548 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: Week two. Ryan Tannhill was another guy that's tough to 549 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: figure out the stage Philip Rivers, you know, he's probably 550 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: gonna give you a good effort. He's gonna make some plays. 551 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: He's just they're coming off a great win over the 552 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: best team in the league. That's a much taller task 553 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna go back. E j Annual 554 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: is gonna have to make some plays the defense. I 555 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna win this alone, and I just 556 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I have yet I don't trust them yet. I still 557 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: haven't seen enough this year to think that we can 558 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: now get behind ej Manuel as a quarterback of a 559 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: big time One thing to like about the Bill's offense 560 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: they you know, Miami wrecked New England in that Week 561 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: one in terms of their pass rush against the Patriots 562 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: line Bills didn't allow a sack against the Dolphins last week. 563 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: E j Manuel looked pretty good last week, had a 564 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: couple of nice throws Sammy Watkins hold on to, but 565 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: it would have looked a lot nicer he had. He 566 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: had a perfect pass up the sideline to Sammy Watkins 567 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: that Brent Grimes made a really nice play on or 568 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: else that would have been a sixty yard touchdown. There's 569 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: another one too, uh. Watkins was running wide open across 570 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: the middlefield, right in front the end zone and ej 571 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: Manuel missed him by about six inches. Sammy Watkins could 572 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: have had ten for a hundred and eighty or a 573 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety three touchdowns instead of what he had eight, one, 574 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: seventeen and one. Well the bomb was I thought that 575 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: was more on Watkins. I thought it was Grimes made 576 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: a nice play. I mean, it wasn't EJ. Manuel's fault. No, no, no, 577 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: that was a very good But that's what he can't 578 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: are they doing do they? Does that coaching staff deserve 579 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: some credit for I think absolutely, that's I mean, that's 580 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: what they're doing. They're coaching them up. They've completely turned 581 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: around their preseason. Remember how we were talking about and 582 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: now they're one of the hottest teams. They're a team that, 583 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 1: for what it's worth, the Statistical Analysis Crew likes a lot. 584 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: The Football Outsider says them as number three right now 585 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: so far in the NFL, and uh five thirty eight, 586 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: who does these little rings now projects them to have 587 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: nine wins. I do think that heavy Manuel will catch 588 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: up to them eventually, But I don't think you can 589 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: keep building your offense on play action and not attack 590 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: teams down the field and not ever go no huddle. 591 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: To me, I just I feel like you can hide. 592 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: They're hiding him now, which is what this the forty 593 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: Niners used to do with Alex Smith a little bit. 594 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if Manuel's Alex Smith, I might have 595 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: to assign myself this game. I mean it's good because 596 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers defense a lot more watchable than 597 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: it used to be too. I think Melvin Ingram was 598 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: playing well. Dwight Freeney is playing really well for them, 599 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: that they're better this year than they were a year 600 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: ago too. For the people at home, Greg has we 601 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: each watch games on Sundays, and Greg has supreme power 602 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: deciding who watches what you guys, You guys, you get 603 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: to watch the precious little Browns every week. You get 604 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: the Jets, and then we have a little draft picks 605 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: sometimes or not. I was gonna say, I haven't seen 606 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: that draft pop up too often to see this. Yeah, 607 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: this year, you've just gotten it and have and I 608 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: know your preference. I basically know what you guys want. 609 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: You've been getting your Cowboy You like watching the Cowboys 610 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: and the Giants for some reason, give me and I 611 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: haven't watched the Cowboys game yet, but put me on 612 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I love see Tony Romo. Finally, one more 613 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: hero pick. The forty nine is coming off that very 614 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: bad loss on Sunday Night. Now travel to Arizona, Big 615 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: Division showdown against the Cardinals team that probably does not 616 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: have Carson Palmer um as of taping this this nerve 617 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: issue on his shoulder seems to be something they can't 618 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: quite figure out. So it seems like Drew Stanton Stanton 619 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: could get a second straight start. Kevin Patra doubled up. 620 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: Not only did he was this a hero pick by 621 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Patra? You also made him the durst Cell power pick? 622 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I get so. What is it when you 623 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: have a hero pick and the power pick? We gotta 624 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: think about that suggested night of drinking in Chicago. Perhaps 625 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: we'll lean on the listeners on Twitter to come up 626 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: with something what happens when those two things combined? Uh. 627 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Since Patra is not with us today, I will turn 628 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: to the boss, the man that makes the schedule, however 629 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: he sees fit, to defend Patra's hero defend his zero. 630 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are very good home team this year. They've 631 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: been better than some of their parts, which I believe 632 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: is a sign of good coaching. And they've got a 633 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: lot of offensive talent and they're playing a forty Niners team. 634 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't think we've figured out yet. I don't you know. 635 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: That first game against the Cowboys was great performance by Kaepernick, 636 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: but it was a little flukey everything that happened for 637 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: them defensively. The next one against the Bears was a 638 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: very flukey game. They're still figuring out who they are. 639 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's some juggernaut team. Cardinals got lucky 640 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: to win against the Giants, as Dan explained so well 641 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: and Sunday Nights podcast that the Giants basically imploded. Cardinals 642 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: really didn't do anything to win it. Andrew Stanton didn't 643 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: do much after halftime last he didn't play well. Yeah, 644 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know about I think the forty Niners are 645 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: the more desperate team right now, and I think they're 646 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: the better team. I kept my Cardinals pick last week 647 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: even when we found out it was standing, but this 648 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: week because I just thought the Giants are good. But 649 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: this week that's why I didn't take the Cardinals. I 650 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: would pick them if Carson bomber Arizona sneaky, tough place 651 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, absolutely, Like what what, I don't know 652 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: about the forty Niners yet. We just kind of assume 653 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: they're the same teams from a year ago there, but 654 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: they're I don't think they're the same on defense. Moving forward, gentlemen, 655 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: we go through the rest of the games. Now. These 656 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: games deserve our love, even if they don't have any 657 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: special significance to them that you know makes them different. 658 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: They're still important football games. Then we start with the 659 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and the Cincinnati Bengals. Well, this game is 660 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: not that important, not that important, but I will tell 661 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: you that the Bengals have looked very good even without 662 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: A J. Green for most of the Week two. They 663 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: played well. A J. Green is he playing this week? 664 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: What's going on with it? He was at practice on 665 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: Thursday trying it out. I probably won't know for sure 666 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: till Sunday. Marvin Lewis was kind of optimistic, which was 667 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: news to A. J. Green. Right, And they have a 668 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: bye week next week, so you would you know they 669 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: might be cautious with it. But we'll see. Vontest perfect 670 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: to two concussions in seven days. He was playing awesome 671 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: at linebacker, even better than last year when he led 672 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: the NFL and tackles. If he can't play, that's another 673 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: big loss. You know. We like it's easy to overlook 674 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals, and we hype up the Seattle home field scenario. 675 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: Bengals ten straight wins at home. That's the Morton most 676 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: they've had in fifteen years, not including the most important one. 677 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: I understand not the playoffs, but I my issue with 678 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is for me, just as a football fan, they've 679 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: long been dull to watch. I just find them boring. 680 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: But I think that Hugh Jackson, going back and watching 681 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: the first two games, Hugh Jackson cannot be blamed with that. 682 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: This season, I think he's got that offense more interesting, 683 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: some interesting stuff because they've got Hugh Live Crew. What's 684 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: that Geo Bernard and Jeremy Hill. That's that's the name. 685 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: That's the name. That's they're gonna sit on that crew 686 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: if we go back to the lab with that one 687 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: Geo Bernard. By the way, that's there's already been a 688 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: mock to Live Crew uh band out there in the nineties, 689 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: and that was two Live Jews with the hit boy 690 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: me so humid. I don't know if you guys remember 691 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: I do remember that. I definitely don't remember that. Um, 692 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's a culture thing I missed. 693 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: By the way, did you know, gentlemen, I lost my 694 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: train of thought. Now, Yeah, that's all that to Live 695 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Jew talk. That'll do it you. Oh yeah, Geo Bernard 696 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: rewatching the game. I think we talked about this on Sunday, 697 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: and perhaps that maybe he was touching the ball too much. 698 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: Uh got over. There aready touches. If I recall thirty two, 699 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: he looks amazing. He that guy is awesome. I knew 700 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: we knew that last year, but I he's electric. He 701 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you could make a list shortlist of the 702 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: most dynamic guys once you get the ball in their hands. 703 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: He's got to be near the top. He's amazing. One 704 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: caveat to that. He is unstoppable in the passing game. 705 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: He's averaged under three yards per carry over his last 706 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: ten games. That's interesting, which is why they should go 707 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: to Jeremy Hill quite a bit. There was this ridiculous 708 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: peace side of right in the spring, all these offseason 709 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: stories about every player is gonna be amazing, and Jo 710 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: had this thing, I am going to have big plays. 711 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: They've engineered this whole offense to get me open in space. 712 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: Every player in the league is gonna get open in 713 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: space in May. But he actually in the passing game, 714 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: they have done a good job with that, and he 715 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: breaks some tackles. He's a little stronger than you expect. 716 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: He jumps over people. Well, it's amazing how well they 717 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: played last week against Atlanta without effort Green and Marvin Jones, 718 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: and yes, he's still pretty good. Should be saying anything 719 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: about this tight tons not too much because we gotta 720 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: move on. I don't know who they are so figured 721 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: Jake Locker. It was the bad Jake Locker last week. 722 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: And I don't know if these wide receivers get open. 723 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: This Bengal secondary was on top of the Atlanta wide 724 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: receiver crew. I mean, it's impressive how they coached these 725 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: guys up because there are veterans that no one really wanted. 726 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: For the most part, both of the games and Bengals 727 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: have played, the dbs have been all over the wide receivers. 728 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: Adam Jones, by the way, told the rookies get your 729 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: money while you can. Oh yeah, it's it's at a. 730 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: It's pac Man's first game against the Titans. If you 731 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: were taking bets, you know, five or six, this would 732 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: be a weird bet. Anyways, but he was out of 733 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: the league in two thousand nine. He had twelve run 734 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: ins with the law. Here he is in his tenth year. 735 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: Your money was as long as a nice little role player. 736 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: Stick it to the Titans, pac Man. Here's a good game. 737 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: And I'm surprised. I guess I'm a little surprised knowing 738 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: highlighted it. But the Green Bay Packers, coming off the 739 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: win against the Jets, head to Detroit to face the Lions. 740 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: The Lions had that great opening and then they came 741 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: down to Earth against the Panthers. So I got to 742 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: one on one teams that have showed UM a lot 743 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: in one game and not a lot in another. So 744 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: maybe we're gonna see what these true teams, what their 745 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: true value is, or maybe maybe the home team will prevail. 746 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. How do you guys see this game 747 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: playing out? This was the hardest game to pick. I thought, 748 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: I agree, I couldn't decide. I went with the Packers. 749 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: I believe Mark was with me on Green Bay and 750 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: everyone else took Detroit, which I would have no problem 751 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: with that home. Yeah, I still think the Lines are 752 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: a good team, and I thought last week that game 753 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: could have easily gone in their favor. Their field goal 754 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: kicker and missed two kicks, and the Calvin Johnson role 755 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: came back to bite Kelvin Johnson again in the end zone. 756 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: He should have had a touchdown. They moved the ball 757 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: on a on a good defense. I think they've looked 758 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: better than the Packers overall. I just I don't know. 759 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: I had a hard time picking against Aaron Rodgers in 760 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: the division. We spent a lot of time talking about 761 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense, you know, with such shorty that they 762 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: were going to be so much tougher to deal with. 763 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: But you know what, they're one of these teams that 764 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: kept their coordinator around, and frankly, that operation looks no 765 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: different to me. We've let Don Caper's off the hook 766 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: on this podcast while burying Jim Hanslett can doesn't think 767 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: I have. I have questioned him before. I think it's 768 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: but that was two years ago. I wrote about him 769 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: after they got bounced out of the playoffs. One year 770 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: he came back. He's got nine lives, but you get 771 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: the feeling that maybe this is his last chance. I 772 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: don't know, it just kind of have a bit of 773 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: a sessler that this might be it if they if 774 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: they again lose another year of Rogers's prime because of 775 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: defensive reasons. We'll see what happens. But yeah, as far 776 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: as this game goes, Greg and Mark chose the Packers 777 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: and West myself and Patrick picked the line. So very 778 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: a split. That's a tough game to figure out. Yeah, 779 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: they have talent on their defense, it just doesn't seem 780 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: like it's coming out. Clay Matthews has been quiet. Peppers 781 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: played well last week. It wasn't tough for me. Mike 782 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: Daniels are making the lead candidate had a great game 783 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, I always that was who was? Did 784 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: we have two packers? Asn't making the Don Jones and 785 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: Mike Daniel You always confused Mike Neil and Mike Daniels. 786 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: But Dan Daniels is a much better player too. Oh, 787 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: and two teams face off in Jacksonville. The Cults coming 788 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: off a very bad loss at home on Monday night 789 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: to the Eagles. Now go to Jacksonville, and uh, you 790 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: start owing three in the NFL and you're basically done. 791 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: The numbers will back that up. You still have a shot, obviously, 792 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: but once you get in that deep, it's very hard 793 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: to climb your way out. So both these teams need 794 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: to win. Uh. The Jaguars have looked terrible through two games, 795 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: so I don't think there's any reason why we should 796 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: think they're going to hold sir. But the Cults haven't 797 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: been so great. Either, So I think it's maybe a 798 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: closer game than some people think. But I think personally, 799 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: I think the Cults take this. What happens when a 800 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: team without a pass rusher squares off against a team 801 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: without an offensive line? Hmmm, the world just employs ye Angels, 802 00:39:53,960 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: territory earth vacuum vacuum. In our conversation with well by 803 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: the way and excited Andrew Luck, it never lost back 804 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: to back games in his career before Monday. There's no 805 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: way he loses three games in a row. Even if 806 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: he has to carry this team on his back, I 807 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: think he gets the job done well. I think if 808 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: you're Jacksonville, you still have to look at this obviously 809 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: as a year where you're developing the whole program for 810 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: the Cults. Though, and just because of the division they're in, 811 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: assumed to be soaring towards the playoffs with an incomplete 812 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: roster just based on Andrew Luck and oh and three 813 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: team hasn't made the playoffs since the Bills. So if 814 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: you go in three and you lose to Jacksonville, you're 815 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: in hot water. Yeah, they had their two first games, 816 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: haven't been that alarming, to be honest. In Denver, they 817 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: played pretty well in the second half. It's a close game. 818 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: They should have won the Eagles game against a good team. 819 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: The lack of the pass rush and just the lack 820 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: of anything exciting defensively, I think it's going to be 821 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: a problem, but not this week. It's It's interesting how 822 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: two players can change a narrative. Trent Richardson was having 823 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: his best game as a cool until he humbled and 824 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: then couldn't pick up a first down late in the game. Right, 825 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: But that's what pet Hamilton's said too, that this was 826 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: Richardson's coming off one of his best games a cult 827 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: and we want to ride that. So one of his 828 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: best games as a cult he had seventy yards and 829 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: two fumbles. Yeah, in New England you get benched for that. Yeah, 830 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: yeah it was. I mean, he had some nice runs 831 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: up the middle, but he was He's clearly not what 832 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: this is the one year anniversary, by the way of 833 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: Trent Richardson being traded to colds one of the great 834 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: trades and Brown's history mark well, and let's remember when 835 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: these things happened, how that was viewed for the first 836 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: couple of months, that Cleveland is a fiery, you know, 837 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: gigantic dumpster fire that doesn't know how to run a 838 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: foot of the organization reward their front office for that trade. Well, 839 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: they sent them packing. We were mixed on it, for 840 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: the record, we a couple, we were we were saying 841 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: it was a good move. I thought, I thought that 842 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: the Colts made a great move when they traded for him, 843 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: and I couldn't have been more wrong. Yeah, that was 844 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: definitely the majority of view point on it. Uh moving forward. 845 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: The Patriots, who clearly there's something involved with the schedule 846 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 1: makers and the Patriots in bed together. The just coming 847 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: off a Vikings game where they got determined by a 848 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: formula of hears in advance figured out by Bill Belichick 849 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: on the back of a Domino, after going up to 850 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota to face Matt Castle and the agent Peterson lists Vikings. 851 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: Now they get to come home and play who the Raiders? 852 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: What did your team open the season again? Whatever? Well, 853 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are predicting a Raiders 854 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: upset here and saying it's going to be a really 855 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: difficult lot of people Bill Belichick struggles against rookies and 856 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: guys like Derek car But I go the other way. 857 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: I think I think the Patriots are gonna win this convincingly. 858 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: You have guts on top of guts. The avant garde 859 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,959 Speaker 1: Rosenthall just cannot be stopped. You picked New England, that's 860 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. They're a veteran team, and to me, 861 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: you look at the Raiders, they're still figuring things out 862 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: a lot of new free agents, young players. So you 863 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: go with experience. Do you have a sessler that Tom 864 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: Brady might play well against the Oakland set and dry? 865 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy it. Actually, I'm not gonna watch this game. 866 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,959 Speaker 1: I don't assign myself the Patriots every week when they've 867 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: got a real stinker of a game. One of you 868 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: guys can have you gotta take this game. You gotta 869 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: fall in this story. I'll take this game. Why not? 870 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: It's not that it still could be interesting. I just 871 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: take a few. I'll write my own special narrative about 872 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: this one. Here's your narrative. The Raiders suck. Whoa hey, 873 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: I didn't say Charles Woodson did the hanging up the phone. 874 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: The league officer will never looks, Which is funny because 875 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: all it took was two games to change what Lamar 876 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: Woodley and Maurice Jones Drew said about going to the 877 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Now they suck. Didn't Derek car look competent 878 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: last week or reading that? And I didn't. I like 879 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: watch the game this morning and I had no idea 880 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: where that was coming from. The Raiders need to show 881 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: some life before they get a little more time on 882 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: this podcast. Moving on the Minnesota Vikings, UH still without 883 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, who, as we talked about yesterday, a p 884 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: is the activated for god knows how long. Now head 885 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: to the Saints, UH playing the super Dome this this 886 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: might even be a worse beating on the Raiders. Take 887 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. What do you guys think? Tough? 888 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: Tough to beat the Saints at home when you've had 889 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: your best players stripped away? You know, if you're North Turner, 890 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: this is an ugly case of deja vu because he 891 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: was Cleveland's coordinator a year ago when in Week two 892 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: they lost their featured back and what that did lead 893 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: to in Cleveland not two wins, but it did lead 894 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: to having to completely rely on a passing game that 895 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: when Hell's bells with Josh Gordon and Jordan Cameron. So 896 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: you've got Cordarrell Patterson, You've got Kyle Rudolph. I think 897 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: Rudolph's gonna see a ton of work, and they've got 898 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: to basically lean on a wide receiver as one of 899 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: their freakiest backfield options. And maybe a little bit of 900 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon along with our West's best friend Matt A 901 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: couple of things on that. I was not surprised to 902 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: see Kyle Rudolph on the injury report this week with 903 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: abdominal injury. He was lumbering last week after he looked 904 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: faster than ever in August. So that note, and then 905 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: Jared McKinnon. I think we'll see more of him this week. 906 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: He's twenty three snaps last week after three in the 907 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: week one and one of the most freakish athletes in 908 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. Let's see if Matt khalil what I mean. Look, 909 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: he's an offensive lineman, but he's he's the guy that 910 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 1: they expected to be a pillar and he got abused 911 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: last week by Chandler Jones. Is gonna be a tough 912 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: matchup for him in the Superdome with all that noise. 913 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: He's been pretty bad here for a year and a 914 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: half now. The around the NFL team isn't fully sold 915 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: on the Houston Texans yet because they are going to 916 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: the metal ends to face the Giants on Sunday, and uh, 917 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: I believe myself and quest believe the Texans will win. 918 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: But we have three around the NFL writers who think 919 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: the Giants will get on the board. So the the 920 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: Texans are looking to go three and oh, the Johns 921 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: are looking to avoid going oh and three. Mark, I'll 922 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: ask you, why do you think the Giants get in 923 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: the wind column? Well, you guys talked about the Packers 924 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: lines being the toughest game for you to pick, and 925 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: that was tough. But this one, for me, I just 926 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: went back and forth between the two. I don't really 927 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: have a convincing argument for New York except that I 928 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 1: think they beat themselves to a large degree last week. Houston. 929 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: I you know, I had Houston up until the last minute. 930 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: So I can't sit here and give you a I 931 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: can't sell you on New York. I'm sorry. Eli looked 932 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: better last week. There's a reason he looked pretty good. 933 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. Eli Man needs no reason to make 934 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: a major on a game. He did look better. They 935 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: finally moved the ball, but he also had two interceptions 936 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: and what should have been a strip sack that was overruled. 937 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: One of the interceptions was just the last play the 938 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: game where they didn't make any difference they were down back, 939 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: he played a lot better, and the other one was 940 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: on a tip right, I believe I don't remember Tom 941 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: Coughlin probably going to the Hall of Fame, right, borderline, borderline. 942 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: It's hard for coaches to get in, and the Texans 943 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: are a much better coach team right now. They have 944 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: really not made mistakes in their first two games. They're 945 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 1: moving the ball well, they're playing solid defense. I think 946 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: they're just a better team than the Giant. I picked 947 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: it kind of or the reason that west uh might 948 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: have picked him last week, and he likes to use 949 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: just the boomerang effect that in the end, these teams, 950 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 1: to me, neither one of them is a winless type 951 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: of team, and neither one of them is an undefeated 952 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: type of team. New York really needs this win badly, 953 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: and I just figure they're gonna stay in the mix 954 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 1: at least and find a way to get it. By 955 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: the way. Number one in the nf I know we 956 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: love yards per tempt around these parts. Uh. Interesting This 957 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: comes from Burger down downstairs. Number one in the league 958 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 1: right now, Andy Dalton through one game, with two games, 959 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick number two in yards per tempt so far. Yes, 960 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul what he was scared of when it 961 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: came to the Houston Texans. One word response, nothing, JPP 962 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: has gotta piped out. One note on your little Burger stat. Yes, 963 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: that's let that be a lesson to you about taking 964 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: too much out of the first two weeks of the season. 965 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: Has Michael Burger gone Madonna on us? Is he just Burger? 966 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: At this point? I mean the the top four players 967 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: right now in QBR on ESPN, which I think is 968 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: a great stat. And granted again it's only two weeks 969 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 1: and some of these guys only played one. Number one, 970 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, number two, Peyton Manning, number three, Derrick Anderson, 971 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: number four, Ryan Fitzpatrick. So that's after two weeks fitz 972 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: he playing decent though not killing you some credit. I 973 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: don't think anybody thought he was gonna be uh the 974 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: guy that was keeping him in games. Alright, Moving forward, 975 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 1: two games left, gentleman, the Dallas Cowboys heading to St. 976 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: Louis to face the Rams. Rams who came up with 977 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: that nice win Uh in Tennessee. Uh, you know, tell 978 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: everybody to shut up after they got beat up at 979 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: home and they open against the Vikings Cowboys bounced back. 980 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: Tony Romo we talked about on Wednesday's podcast maybe hasn't 981 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: looked himself so far and excused himself from practice and 982 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: Wednesday with some back stiffness. So it'll be very interesting. 983 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: That's to me what I'm really interested seeing how Romo looks, 984 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: and that's why I'm personally requesting to watch Sunday than Davis. 985 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: Fireworks show didn't get ready for Ross and Davis, so 986 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: we all picked the Cowboys in West. You made this 987 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: your duras Cell Great Battery Giant power pick. Yes, I 988 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: agree with Greg that Romo has not looked good. He's 989 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: probably looked worse than he has any point in his career. 990 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe that means he's gonna look bad 991 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: every week the rest of the way. I'm I have 992 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: a little more faith in him than I do in 993 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: Austin Davis, who did look good, who moved the offense. 994 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: But to me, he's a backup quarterback. He certainly does 995 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: not have an NFL arm. If I'm if I'm the 996 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys and Romo isn't necessarily a hundred percent at this point. 997 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 1: The Bucks of all teams slashed the Rams last week 998 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: on the ground hundred and forty four yards or Bobby 999 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: Rainey DeMarco Murray, I don't stop him running all day long. 1000 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: You just unleashed the guy. Do you know how many 1001 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: yards DeMarco mary has averaged in two career games versus 1002 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: the Rams. Well, I was told downstairs that we are 1003 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: not to point to teams or players record versus that was. 1004 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: That was fantasy, that was It wasn't the right at us. 1005 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 1: This is more about how DeMarco DeMarco Murray is running 1006 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: as well now as any running back in the NFL, 1007 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 1: and I believe he's averaged over two hundred yards in 1008 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: his two games versus the Rams in his career. This 1009 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: was one of the toughest games. I really wanted to 1010 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: take the Rams because I had a feeling, all you sheep, 1011 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the big flashy star in Dallas. 1012 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: But that was why, all right, I've just shots for fun. 1013 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't bear my to take the Rams 1014 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: after watching Bobby Rainey, you know, running through the Rams 1015 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: that This isn't really that tough of defense, So I 1016 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: went with your point. I just think that Marco Murray 1017 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: will go for toft. It would be more imposing to 1018 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: face the Rams in the St. Louis Library than the 1019 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: environment they've created for football games. You're talking about the edge, James. 1020 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: Don't the guy like I built a palace. It's a football. 1021 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: There's a real, very realistic possibility of the Rams are 1022 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: two and one after all this nonsense. I mean, you 1023 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: have you guys have to admit this is almost a 1024 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,439 Speaker 1: coin flip type of game. The Cowboys aren't. That's true. 1025 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: I guess you won't admit that. A lot of McClain, though, 1026 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: uh early comeback Player of the Year favorite, it might 1027 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: not play in this game. Yeah, what's going on with him? 1028 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: He missed practice too. Finally, the Kansas City Chiefs head 1029 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: to Miami and to play the Dolphins, and I thought 1030 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: this was interesting. Ryan Tannehill, who has not played very well, 1031 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: not played terribly necessarily, but not not great football at 1032 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: all and doesn't seem to be progressing through two weeks, 1033 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: came out and acknowledged it, uh and said, I haven't 1034 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: been putting the ball in the right spot. I haven't 1035 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: been on my best and it's got to change. It's 1036 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: got to change fast. He's right about that. Greg. Do 1037 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: you see Tannehill get first of all, playing well in 1038 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: this game or and do you see him being better 1039 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 1: this year than he was last year? Or is he plateaued? No? 1040 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: I think he will be better because he's in a 1041 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: better offensive system overall that can run the ball. And 1042 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: I definitely think will be better this week because I 1043 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: don't think the chief secondary is very good. And that's 1044 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: why I made it my power picked last week. They 1045 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: did no, they didn't know not what Chiefs played well. 1046 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: The Chiefs played well as a team, but they didn't 1047 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: play well on defense. They just played keep away. I mean, 1048 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: manning through nine and a half yards per attempt, three touchdowns, 1049 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: and they scored. I mean, they made some plays in 1050 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: the second half, but any I don't believe in this 1051 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: Chief's defense long term at all. If if Matt Castle's 1052 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: fatal flaw is that he's incapable of throwing a touch pass, 1053 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill's fatal flow is that he can't convert third downs. 1054 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: He's one of the worst in the NFL since he 1055 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: entered the league in that and he was terrible at 1056 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: it again at Buffalo last week. On the other hand, 1057 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: I still think Alex Smith is a He's playing better 1058 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: over the last ten games. It wasn't his fault they 1059 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: lost last week. He played well. They need to get 1060 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 1: the ball to Travis Kelsey and they need to increase 1061 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: his snaps. Jamal Charles is a major guy to watch two. 1062 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: He is the high ankle spring but he's practicing. But 1063 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: you don't know, you know if he's gonna be Jamal 1064 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: Charles if he's on the field. We talked about oh 1065 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: and three. By the ways, you're pretty much finished, so 1066 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 1: there's got to be maybe a little added urgency on 1067 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: the chief side at oh and two going into Miami. 1068 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hot in Miami, I would assume, so 1069 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: a tough game. Yeah, Cameron Wake, meet Eric Fisher and 1070 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: you might as well just bring the clown suit with 1071 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: you on the way to the same number one overall 1072 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: pick you're talking about. I just think you should say 1073 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: he was okay in the run game last week, but 1074 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: still cannot protect Alex Pit. All right, that's it for 1075 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: the preview four. Week three will be back on Sunday 1076 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: night to go over once again, all the games from 1077 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: week three and look ahead to Monday night. So that 1078 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: is it and get get excited for that. People and gentlemen, 1079 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: great work this week, Thanks you and really were terrific. 1080 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: You're the m v P this week. You know, let's 1081 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: stop it, Greg because you're the best and you're a boss. No, 1082 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: the boss. Alight. That's it, all right until next week. 1083 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: This is Stan Hansas signing up at the Sizzler, the Mailman, 1084 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: the Boss and t D behind the glass. It's so 1085 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: s