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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker here. Chris Brown is out

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Speaker 1: for the first half of this week. We are joined

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Speaker 1: today by Chris Trapas. So, Chris, thanks for coming on

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Speaker 1: with a CBS Sports, Thanks for coming on with us,

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Speaker 1: for spending a couple of hours with us a day.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you on. It's been a minute.

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Speaker 2: It's great to be back, and certainly would have been

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Speaker 2: a little bit more fun preparing for a Bill Super.

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Speaker 1: Bowl, but we would probably be in Vegas if we were,

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Speaker 1: that's true.

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Speaker 2: But the off season is kind of my cup of

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Speaker 2: tea with the NFL Draft and Bills are this close,

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Speaker 2: So a few pieces here and there, and maybe that's

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Speaker 2: what we're doing next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be here with you until three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We've got a ton of stuff going on around the league.

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Speaker 1: Did you good weekend? Did you catch any the Pro

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Speaker 3: Just through Twitter? I didn't watch it.

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Speaker 2: It does seem like the players like the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 2: like the flight football. They're having fun, but it was

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Speaker 2: not appointment viewing for me in my house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I missed every minute of it. I no question

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Speaker 1: the guys are there, is it? Sorry, if they look

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Speaker 1: like they're having fun, they're having fun because those guys

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: They don't have it in them.

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Speaker 2: And the stadium was sold out like it seemed like

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you give people whatever their money's

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Speaker 1: worth is for the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the skills competition, the flight football.

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Speaker 1: Tuggle, I mean, how you're sitting up in the A

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Speaker 1: three hundred level watching a tug of war, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: watching these guys slide I saw this. They're sliding weights

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're It's it's kind of contrived what they've done

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Speaker 2: with some of the events. But if they can get

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Speaker 2: the players to actually care, and apparently it can fill

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Speaker 1: Right, don't compete. I mean that's what those guys do.

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Speaker 1: I mean it, It does not matter what they got

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Is fifty nine to sixty four after all said and done.

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Speaker 1: After the flag football after the tug of war, after

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Speaker 1: the obstacle course, after the what else was there? Dodgeball?

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Speaker 1: There's a whole list of stuff they got going.

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Speaker 2: Did they do a long drive this year? I know

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Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer won the long drive, this closest to the pin,

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Speaker 2: closest to the pin?

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Speaker 1: Okay, this time, gotcha?

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Speaker 3: So they change it year to year, I think, so yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what and I don't know who

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Speaker 1: to do. But yeah, I did not. Honestly, this we're

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Speaker 1: for this is the most I've seen of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just caught little glimpses of the flag football game,

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Speaker 2: But yes, yeah, I would rather play pebble Beach than

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Speaker 2: So I think where the Pro Bowl ultimately was getting

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Speaker 1: In it wasn't real game. It wasn't a game. Even

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget it was really special when that happened,

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Speaker 1: and I and so that, Uh yeah, everything evolves though,

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Speaker 1: these days then it's been, but not the Pro Bowl. No,

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Speaker 1: It was not worth playing another game. It's too hard

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Speaker 2: What I like, too, is that they've kind of made

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Speaker 2: They can get the offensive lineman. We saw Dion Dawkins

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Speaker 2: You get that for the NBA and the NHL, that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, And you know, obviously every sport is completely different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine in the future when I'm gonna be like,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch the Pro Bowl this year. But certainly

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Speaker 2: and I think that's probably how a lot of fans felt.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chris, Chris Trepasso, Steve Tasker here with you

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Speaker 1: until three o'clock. Let's go around the NFL, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kaleida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Lots

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Speaker 1: going on around the league at this time. The Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are starting still looking for a defensive coordinator. Jerry

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Speaker 1: the markings of it, like a little bit of a drama.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is not extending Mike McCarthy. McCarthy's sitting there going,

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Speaker 1: I've won the division, we're winning twelve games a year,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of par for the course for

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Speaker 2: and that the Cowboys haven't won a lot of playoff games.

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Speaker 2: They've had, like you mentioned that regular season success and

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Speaker 2: would know from your playing days coaches don't want to

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Speaker 2: a lot of those more highly sought after defensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: If you're Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're Jerry though, you're going to say, you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna go in there and you're gonna you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to.

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Speaker 1: You let this play out, and you can win twelve

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Speaker 1: and our job's open, and we're looking like a plumb job. True,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be I'll have my pick whatever hot candidates

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Speaker 1: I want. That's where Jerry's at. So he's got the

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Speaker 1: lever right now. He's you know, he's gonna pull it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that guy's gonna he's gonna use every bit

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Speaker 2: You know, I wonder if he mentioned Bill Belichick, and

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Speaker 2: we know that Bill Belichick has not gotten hired anywhere,

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Speaker 2: would this be a situation where midway through twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: if Mike McCarty, if they're if they're five and three,

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Speaker 2: that a pull the plug on Mike McCarthy insert Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Either that or all of a sudden, you get Bill

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's going to be the roof. The canopy

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Speaker 1: of the new stadium is going to be taller than

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Speaker 1: the light poles of the old stadium.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a huge.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be able to see it from a

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Speaker 1: long WAYA nice. So that has begun. Also, as we

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Speaker 1: wind this up, the Chiefs and the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: landed in vague guess yesterday. Kansas City landed first at

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Speaker 1: Harry Reid International Airport about eight fifteen pm. The forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers landed just about an hour later, nine to

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Speaker 1: twenty Eastern. The Niners, it's their eighth Super Bowl appearance,

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Speaker 1: and for the Chiefs it's their fourth in five years

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Speaker 1: and their fifth overall appearance in the Super Bowl. The

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Speaker 1: Chiefs beat the Niners in Super Bowl fifty four. That's

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Speaker 1: just four years ago by a score thirty one to twenty.

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna kick that off as we know six

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Speaker 1: thirty next Sunday. Get ready for a week of well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you used to call it. It's

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Speaker 1: usually buzzing, but this is super Bowl City. But it's Vegas.

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Speaker 3: It's Vegas.

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Speaker 1: It is like just another it's in the day at

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Speaker 1: the office for Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I saw a tweet from I forgot what reporter, what

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Speaker 2: national reporter it was that was like, I've always been

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Speaker 2: told that the uh most amount of time you want

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Speaker 2: to spend it in Vegas is like three days.

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Speaker 1: Three days.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, all of the media members, all

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Speaker 2: the parties that they have set up all week, are

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Speaker 2: people going to be like burned out by Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Probably?

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Speaker 1: Well, the players have always been burned out by believe me.

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Speaker 1: It's it's what we talk about all the time. The

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Speaker 1: players are real creatures of habit, and you get thrown off.

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Speaker 1: You have a certain amount of energy to spend on

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Speaker 1: this and that and the other and the other. And

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Speaker 1: the energy that you spend in super Bowl week is

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Speaker 1: that normal amount of patience and attention and distraction that

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Speaker 1: you have for most games is used up by Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you got Friday, Saturday, and all day Sunday before

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Speaker 1: the game, and it takes forever to get that game

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Speaker 1: kicked off, and it's it's really frustrating for a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys.

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Speaker 2: And you referenced four years ago the Chiefs beat the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers in the Super Bowl Patrick Mahomes for

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl win. To me, like an underrated storyline

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Speaker 2: is can Kyle Shanahan finally get it done? Like he

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Speaker 2: is the offensive coordinator when they lose twenty eight to three,

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Speaker 2: when they blow that lead to the Patriots in that

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. They had a touchdown lead late in that

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Speaker 2: game and ultimately ended up losing by eleven points. Like

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Speaker 2: it took a Patrick Mahomes' comeback late in that game

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Speaker 2: for the Chiefs to win. We know Kyle Shanahan, he's established,

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Speaker 2: he's a great play caller, play designer. He gets the

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Speaker 2: most out of his quarterbacks, receivers yards after the catch.

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Speaker 2: I just want to see if he can actually finally

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Speaker 2: get one done and win a Super Bowl because he's

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Speaker 2: like been there.

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Speaker 3: Coach MVPs.

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Speaker 2: You know, brock Perty's an MVP candidate, had Matt Ryan

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Speaker 2: as an MVP. There's certainly a lot of hoopla around

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift and Patrick Mahomes. Can they

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Speaker 2: become a dynasty? But how about Kyle Shanahan just not

498
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Speaker 2: having a blunder with his clock management, his game management,

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Speaker 2: and just putting together all four quarters, helping his team

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Speaker 2: finally get one done.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm kind of paying attention to this game.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be fine. I don't I think Shanahan

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Speaker 1: is a I think he's a really I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you can say it, but an underrated coach because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that he gets there a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a.

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Speaker 1: I think he's one of the great offensive minds in

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Speaker 1: the game these days, uh creativity, And certainly certainly they've

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Speaker 1: got some dudes over there, no question about it, on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, and on the offensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball as well. They've got a tremendous

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Speaker 1: roster aided by the fact that and I think that

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Speaker 1: this is the reason I give Kyle Shanahan a ton

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Speaker 1: of credit. He does it with just guys At quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo couldn't play.

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Speaker 3: But he got the most of Jimmy Garoppolo, right.

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Speaker 1: All the guys that between Jimmy Garoppolo and and Rock Purty.

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Speaker 1: Now brock Purty now now he found brock Purtty knows

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Speaker 1: what he's looking at. And brock Purty is not mister irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: He's a good quarterback, but he's not a He's not

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Speaker 1: a Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson Justin Herbert quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But he has really quickly developed from a guy who

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Speaker 1: from last year at the end of last year really

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Speaker 1: stepped stepped it up week over week over week. With

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Speaker 1: the coaching at Kyle Shanahan, brock Purty has is now

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Speaker 1: making plays. He's a legit starting quarterback who can carry

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Speaker 1: a team for a moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at the history of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: that Kyle Shanahan has had, either when he was an

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in Houston, got the most out of Matt

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Speaker 2: schob Brian Hoyer, Kirk Cousins early in Washington. Helped develop

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Speaker 2: him into a quarterback that got a bunch of huge,

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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deals in Minnesota. He does a great job.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the most quarterback friendly offensive coordinator in

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Speaker 2: the league, and one last point, it kind of could

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Speaker 2: be part of our around the league. Kyle Shanahan said

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Speaker 2: he was serious recently about trying to lure Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: out of retirement for this season, so he wasn't even

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Speaker 2: fully convinced that brock Purty could be the guy. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: of course, did not get Tom Brady, and then brock

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Speaker 2: Purty had an MVP caliber season. So I think that's

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Speaker 2: funny how that ultimately works out, That God works in

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Speaker 2: mysterious ways. I'm sure Kyle Shanahan was upset that he

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Speaker 2: wasn't able to get Tom Brady, but again is another

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Speaker 2: testament to like you mentioned, how well he can elevate

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Speaker 2: his quarterbacks, and that's obviously the most important position on

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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a guy who can do that is worth

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Speaker 1: his weight and goal is Kyle Shanahan has proven time

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Speaker 1: and again he's finally he finally got his shot to

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Speaker 1: be a head guy in San Francisco. And you talk

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Speaker 1: about coaches who have interacted with him and had, you know,

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Speaker 1: brushed up against him. Is like Sean McVay, it's Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: It's all coach down there. Yeah, and uh, and certainly

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Speaker 1: once again in the Super Bowl. It says a lot

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Speaker 1: about where he was four years ago. He was in

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Speaker 1: it and now he's back again. That's that's pretty that

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Speaker 1: that is a more normal coaching, true path than we

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Speaker 1: see Andy Reid with going to four out of five.

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Speaker 2: And one last point about this, you mentioned that they

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Speaker 2: have some dudes. I think another storyline or to me,

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Speaker 2: like the key storyline outside of Kyle Shanahan and and

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Speaker 2: just Patrick Mahomes being in it again, is we're going

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Speaker 2: to see. I think the forty nine Ers are a

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Speaker 2: better team. Brandon Ayu can all Pro Deebo, Samuel, George Kittle,

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Speaker 2: you can, just the list goes on, Fred Warner, Nick Bosa,

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Speaker 2: Chase Young. Overall, they have better individual top end talent

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Speaker 2: Trent Williams at left tackle as well. How does the

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Speaker 2: better team fare against I think you know, Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: is cementing himself as one of the best quarterbacks of

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Speaker 2: all time and Travis Kelsey. I think you can look

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Speaker 2: at more all pros on the forty nine ers side, not.

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Speaker 3: As many on case.

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Speaker 2: How does Mahomes play against so many good players on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the offers.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Niners are probably more talented. Although

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs got a bunch of really good players, their

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Speaker 1: offensive lines playing well they got and Mahomes and Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing. And their defensive guys in

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Speaker 1: the secondary in particular are really good. But overall, Niners

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Speaker 1: are a better football team. But I don't know that

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Speaker 1: they're better at making plays the.

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Speaker 3: Exactly late in the game when you need that big

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Speaker 3: play you all.

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Speaker 1: Even if it's not night in the game, if it's

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Speaker 1: third and crazy, Mahomes will pull it, you know, and

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Speaker 1: do it. So that's that's the thing as well. That's

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Speaker 1: NFL news and notes brought to you, hold on, brought

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Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso here with you until three o'clock to take

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Speaker 1: a break. Come back, and while we're on the break,

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Speaker 1: you can give us a call. The question is will

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Speaker 1: the Bills This is a Twitter question today and I

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Speaker 1: like to hear from some of the Bills fans. We've

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Speaker 1: got to listen to us. Will the Bills get better

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Speaker 1: through free agency this off season? It's a big question

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of obstacles towards it, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see what Bills fans think. Steve Tasker, Christrapasso, This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio and this is One Bill's Live. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker, Chris Trapasso. Here,

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Speaker 1: Brownie's out for a day or two. Chris. We put

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Speaker 1: it to our listeners right before we went to the

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Speaker 1: break about you know, can the Bills get better or

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Speaker 1: will the Bills get better in free agency this offseason?

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Speaker 1: Certainly they've got to replenish their roster. If nothing else,

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Speaker 1: they got ten draft picks. They're going to get those guys.

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Speaker 1: You gotta think too, probably in a perfect world you

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Speaker 1: might even get a handful of contributors out of that draft.

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Speaker 1: But certainly you got to think it's a good chance

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Speaker 1: all ten of those kids kids make the roster. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about free agency? Because you go

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Speaker 1: down the list every year and this is it's getting

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Speaker 1: worse and worse now because teams are starting to sign

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Speaker 1: guys to a bunch of one year deals. You get

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Speaker 1: these names that pop out after having a pretty good

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Speaker 1: season with whoever they are, like Leonard Floyd for the

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Speaker 1: Bills in exactly for instance, what are your thoughts about

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Speaker 1: free agency and where the Bills might head.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think obviously the headliner is that the Bills

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Speaker 2: are way over the cap, but it's not going to

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Speaker 2: be that difficult for them to get under the cap.

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Speaker 2: They have to get under it, and I think Brandon

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Speaker 2: Bean has shown over the last couple of seasons with

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Speaker 2: the big Josh Allen contract and some others, that he

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Speaker 2: knows how to use accounting practices to get you know,

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Speaker 2: cap compliant and be able to sign guys like Leonard

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Speaker 2: Floyd and bring in you know, a Tim Settle at

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Speaker 2: Day Kwon Jones, maybe not a Von Miller Asks signing.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think the Bills necessarily need that splash

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Speaker 2: of a signing. They need those little role players here

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Speaker 2: and there on each side of the ball. The wide

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Speaker 2: receiver group I really like, and I think we saw

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Speaker 2: it last year. Maybe it didn't come to fruition as

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Speaker 2: much as the Bills wanted with Deontay Hardy and Trent Sherfield,

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Speaker 2: but beyond probably drafting a wide receiver in the first

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Speaker 2: or the second round, I think they will be able

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Speaker 2: to check that bargain bin for some free agent wide receivers,

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Speaker 2: and there are some good ones out.

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Speaker 1: There, right, so let's give me let's go down a

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Speaker 1: quick list.

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Speaker 3: Here about we got five, We've got.

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Speaker 1: Quick there you go some some of your more probably realistic.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, that's yes.

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Speaker 2: So this list that I compile that is not you know,

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Speaker 2: you could say t Higgins, you could say Mike Evans,

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Speaker 2: but I think they're obviously priced out of where the

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Speaker 2: Bills ultimately will want to spend and can spend in

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Speaker 2: free agency. Just to run through these quickly, starting at

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Speaker 2: the bottom and then going up. And this is in order.

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Speaker 2: So Laviscus Chanell is my number one guy in terms

653
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: of realistic whim I like him. He is so good

654
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: after the catch. He is six foot six one, two

655
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: twenty five. He's built like a like a fullback almost

656
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: and was injured last season in Carolina two separate ankle injuries,

657
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: so I think that was going to lower his price

658
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: in free agency. The Bills are not afraid to sign

659
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: someone after coming off an injury. Deontae Hardy didn't play

660
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: two seasons ago before the Bill signed him with Chanal,

661
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: he averaged forcing seventeen miss tackles per season in his

662
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: first three years in the NFL. And if you're thinking

663
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: is seventeen missforce tackles, is that is that a lot?

664
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: That was the same number that Jamar Chase forced last year.

665
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: So he is someone and I think Joe Brady wants

666
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: to utilize the wide receiver screen game. We saw that

667
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: down the stretch. I don't think Stefan Diggs is really

668
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: that guy at this point in his career. That's not

669
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: really his strength. I think the Bills want to use

670
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir in more of a classic slot role next season.

671
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: So if you bring in Laviskas Chanel and he will

672
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: be cheap. I'm talking one year two million, one year,

673
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: three million, somewhere in that range, and that maybe even

674
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: is a little bit high for him. He can be

675
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: that wide receiver screen guy. Some other names. kJ Osborne

676
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: on that list, went to the University of Buffalo, has

677
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: been a pretty steady contributor in Minnesota. Kendrick Bourne is

678
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: someone I think coming off the ACL tear, is not

679
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: going to get a ton of money.

680
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: Bill's fans know him well.

681
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: He's actually pretty good in New England the last couple

682
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: seasons despite lesser quarterback play and Mac Jones' rookie season

683
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, he almost had nine hundred yards receiving.

684
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: So Kendrick Bourne is someone late twenties you watched against

685
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: the Bills. He made some plays. He's a good player

686
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: that is not going to cost an arm and a leg.

687
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: And I think you add him with Josh Allen and

688
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: suddenly Allen is the type of quarterback that can elevate

689
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: his game.

690
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: So those five on.

691
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: There can be beIN free agents who are better when

692
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: they're in Buffalo next season.

693
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about Olamide Olamide Zakias.

694
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: So he went to the University of Virginia. He was

695
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: like the do everything player in college and in Atlanta

696
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: when he had more of an opportunity than he did

697
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: this past season in Philadelphia. Head over eight hundred yards

698
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: just catching the football. So I think he's someone that

699
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: wasn't a big contributor for the Eagles this past season.

700
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: We see this touchdown here from Jalen Hurts that was

701
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: a big one against the Bills.

702
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: That was too.

703
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 2: Zakias a little bit of a smaller guy, but I

704
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: like he can play inside or outside. He's not just

705
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: a slot receiver, has good speed down the field, and

706
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: again he was buried on that roster this past season

707
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, but in Atlanta when he was the the

708
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: bona fide number two for the Falcons in twenty twenty one,

709
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: was very productive. So I think he could be someone

710
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: that's kind of like in that Isaiah McKenzie role. Maybe

711
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: can give you a little bit more than that. But

712
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: all five of those wide receivers, they're not going to,

713
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, generate a lot of headlines in free agency.

714
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: But again, when you let Josh Allen throw them the football,

715
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: then suddenly I think they could be really good. In

716
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: Buffalo and the one that I haven't mentioned yet, Noah Brown.

717
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 2: He had just signed a one year deal in Houston

718
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: this past year, and I think that's important because it

719
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: shows that he's willing to sign those, you know, one

720
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: year deals just to ultimately get a bigger deal after

721
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: the deal exactly. He averaged over seventeen yards per catch

722
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: this season with CJ. Stroud there with the Texans. Came

723
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: into the league very young out of Ohio State, was

724
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: a low volume guy in Dallas to start his career,

725
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: but he showed now that he is into his late twenties,

726
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: the polish and the refinement that is needed to get

727
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: open to make catches deep down the field. He showed

728
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: it this past season in Houston, and he was banged

729
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: up a little bit. So again he's not going to

730
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: be able to come into free agency and say, look,

731
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: I played seventeen games, I played eight hundred snaps. I

732
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: want six seven eight million a year. He could be

733
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: a lesser guy that starts and you project him as

734
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: your wide receiver.

735
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: Three.

736
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: You have Dalton Kinkaid, you have Khalil Shakir. Kind of

737
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: splitting that wide receiver two role, you draft a receiver.

738
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Speaker 2: That's what I think Brandon Bean will ultimately do. Find

739
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: those role players at defensive tackle, at safety, and I

740
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: think very importantly at wide receiver.

741
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things about and for Bills fans,

742
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, the guy who's been playing for the Patriots,

743
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: so you see him once in a while. In fact,

744
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: the thing that you'll remember about Kendrick Bourne you think

745
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: back to the playoff game two years ago when the

746
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: Bills had the perfect game. Yeah, Kendrick Bourne was the

747
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: lone bright spot in that game. In the second half

748
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots. He caught a couple of

749
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: passes and went deep and then took an end to round.

750
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: He was the only guy that actually showed up and

751
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: was athletically good enough to do something against the Bills

752
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: in that game for the Patriots. He's he's got some

753
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: he's got some juice.

754
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: And to that point, he is a rare wide, rare

755
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver who's big. He's not spit super fast, but

756
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: he's a vertical threat because he can make those difficult

757
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: catches down the field. He's very good in those contested

758
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: cut situations.

759
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Trapasso, we're going over a

760
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: quick list of about five free agent wide receivers that

761
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: Chris thinks are probably you know, they're not. Yeah, they're

762
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: bargain being guys. They're realistic opportunity, particularly now that the

763
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: Bills are in cap jail and we're talking like like

764
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: we have money to sign him. One of the things

765
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: also that you did, you put together a list of

766
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: five guys. And this is where it gets really fun,

767
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: because if we're gonna have Maddy glab On during the

768
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: week and in the netcoming weeks and start to do

769
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: a mock draft analysis, right she does a great job.

770
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: She does a great job with it. But there's one

771
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: out today. Mike Miller from and I'm not sure where

772
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Mike ESPN, ESPN, Matt Miller, Matt Miller. I'm sorry forgive me, Matt.

773
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: He's got the Bills taking. He's I'm laughing because yeah,

774
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: they've got he's got the Bills taking.

775
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: Let me get the name right, the center?

776
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: What's where? Where's it at? Jay in the rundown? Okay, here, yes,

777
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: Jackson Powers Johnson Oregon out of Oregon. He plays center.

778
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, no way, there ain't no way

779
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: the Bills are taking a center in the first round.

780
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 3: I would be surprised.

781
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Mitch Morris may be gone, but they do

782
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: have Ryan Bates on the roster. I think they love

783
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: Ryan Bates and he's kind of the air apparent to

784
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: Mitch Morris.

785
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

786
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: And it would be surprising if the Bills went center

787
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 2: in the first round. I don't think they're one hundred

788
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: locked into wide receiver in round one. Could it be

789
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: a safety, Could it be a defensive tackle? I think

790
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: those would be the two other positions that they could

791
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: target if they went center in round one. That would

792
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: be a little bit head scratched.

793
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: He'd be a shocker. And no question, kid's a good player.

794
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: He weighs way over three bills. He's like three thirty five,

795
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: plays like someone much lighter, very athletic, really drive blocker,

796
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: downhill blocker. So he's got a lot going on. He's

797
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: gonna play in the National Football League. But he's not

798
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna get drafted by the Bills number one overall or

799
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: number one one in the draft. So but that's where

800
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: we're at in these you know, these mock drafts in

801
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: the early going.

802
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean, and what's what's so important to kind of

803
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: blend free agency with the draft. You're mentioning guys Leviscus

804
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: Shenault and Noah Brown and Kendrick Bourne. I think it's

805
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: important to remember these guys will not have to come

806
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: in and be the wide receiver number two. It's not

807
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: gonna be Stefan Diggs and say Kendrick Bourne. It's gonna

808
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: be Stefan Diggs, probably a first or a second round

809
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: wide receiver as the wide receiver two. And then that

810
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: free agent is a wide receiver three, throwing Shakir Dawson, Knox,

811
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid, the running backs, and that what is what

812
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: I think is putting the Bills in a good situation

813
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: moving forward in twenty twenty four that you don't have

814
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: to rely on a bargain pin free agent wide receiver

815
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: to be your number two. You want that twenty two

816
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: year old, fresh legged, super talented rookie receiver to come

817
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: in and take some of that attention away from your

818
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: other established pieces. If you're relying on a Kendrick Bourne

819
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: or a Noah Brown or a Laviscus Chanel as your

820
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver too, then I think you're back to the

821
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: seeing problems that the Bills had late in the season

822
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: and in the playoffs. So the Bills from that perspective,

823
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: I think are in a good spot. Bring in your

824
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: free agents that are cheap to be those role players

825
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball.

826
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. And of course, now in Matt Miller's defense, in

827
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: the second round, he does have Buffalo taking Jalen Polk,

828
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: who's a wide receiver out of Washington. Now, Polk is

829
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: a big, physical receiver. He excels at underneath and choice routes.

830
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: He was the number two option at Washington behind a

831
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: guy named Odoonza. But he's still caught even to the

832
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: number two options, sixty nine passes for eleven hundred and

833
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: fifty nine yards, nine touchdowns. Now, yeah, he's sixty two

834
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: to two four, and there's there's talk that he may

835
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: have it in him to he emerge as a number

836
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: one guy somewhere down the lines. He got that kind

837
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: of body and maybe all he needs is an opportunity.

838
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: And that's a good point to bring that up about

839
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: Jalen Polk, and I think you can spread that out

840
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: more generally that given Stefon Diggs age that he is

841
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: going to be thirty one next season when he's playing

842
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: for the Bills, most likely that it's not just about

843
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: getting wide receiver number two production out of a rookie.

844
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: It's can this guy eventually become the wide receiver one

845
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: for Josh Allen And when they're playing across the street

846
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: at the new Stadium, you're drafting someone in the first

847
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: round in twenty twenty four that you hope, by probably

848
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six is the number

849
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: one wide receiver in this offense. So for as much

850
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: as the Bills want to just get there, get a

851
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, win a championship, and being pro ready right now,

852
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: I think certainly matters, and the Bills will consider that.

853
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: I do think there will be some do we see

854
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: this wide receiver, whether we you know, he's picked in

855
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: the first of the second round. Can he be a

856
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: Staff Digg's replacement eventually and be a wide receiver one

857
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: with Josh.

858
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And in perfect world, you have a guy like

859
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: whether it's his Jalen Polk or another guy, come in

860
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: and you know, get on the field early, start catching

861
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: passes early in the season, and then by weeks ten twelve,

862
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: November in seventeen, he does elevate and start to become

863
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: a guy they were more readily rely on him, much

864
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: much like Khalil Shakir did this season in his second year.

865
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: Came in and was a kind of a little bit

866
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: of an afterthought, kind of let's see find out about

867
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: him early in the season, and now Khalil is really

868
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: one of the main stays of that offense at the

869
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Speaker 1: end of the season. And that's what you kind of

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Speaker 1: like this high round draft pick wide receiver to be

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Speaker 1: able to do with Steph Diggs.

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Speaker 2: And my biggest thing with the Bills is they just

873
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Speaker 2: need to pick a wide receiver that we have seen

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Speaker 2: and do it early. That there's been a little bit

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Speaker 2: of the Bills ignoring that position early in the draft.

876
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Speaker 2: And why I'm saying they just need to do it

877
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Speaker 2: is this regime under Brandon Bean has proven to be

878
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Speaker 2: pretty good at evaluating wide receivers in the draft.

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Speaker 3: They just haven't picked a lot of them.

880
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Speaker 2: Gabe Davis in the fourth round, great return on investment there.

881
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Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir, a fifth rounder, has proven to be, you know,

882
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Speaker 2: one of the more reliable slot receivers, young slot receivers

883
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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think he has a very bright future.

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Speaker 2: Even Isaiah Hodgens, who started in Buffalo and now is

886
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Speaker 2: with the Giants as a sixth rounder. He's a pretty

887
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Speaker 2: good player. So they've haven't drafted a lot of wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Even Rey Ray McCloud, a seventh rounder that Brandon Bean

889
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Speaker 2: picked in his first draft out of Clemson in twenty eighteen.

890
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Speaker 2: He's on the forty nine ers. He's their main return guy.

891
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Speaker 2: He plays out of the slot. He's not one of

892
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Speaker 2: the top targets, but he's stuck around. He's on a

893
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Speaker 2: good team. They've retained him in San Francisco, so the

894
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Speaker 2: Bills do have a pretty good track record identifying the

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Speaker 2: right wide wide receivers. They just need to pick one

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Speaker 2: relatively early in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Trapasso. Will the Bills get better through

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Speaker 1: free agency this Offseason's question we're asking. You can call

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Speaker 1: us if you like. We're gonna take a break, we'll

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Speaker 1: be back. This is Buffalo Bills Radio and this is

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Life. Steve Tasker,

902
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso. Are the Bills going to get better through

903
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: a free agency this offseason? It's a question we put

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Speaker 1: to you. Got some feedback on the tweet sheet. A

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

906
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Speaker 1: official equipment moving company the Buffalo Bills. From Allen, he says,

907
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: now the CAP's weight is over way too much this

908
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: time around to give anybody worth a nickel a serious look.

909
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: From Robert, he says, yeah, because Bean will work his

910
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: magic Jedi mind tricks and whatever it is that he

911
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: uses to help this team. From Carl, he says, yeah,

912
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: the same way they have for the past few years.

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Speaker 1: Low price veterans that want a chance to win. There's

914
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Speaker 1: some of that going around for sure.

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Speaker 2: And like you mentioned Leonard Floyd, that was a late

916
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Speaker 2: signing in free agency that everyone's like, oh wow, that's

917
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: a pretty good signing. Taylor Rapp being another one that

918
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Speaker 2: signed a one year deal. Tim's settle in the past.

919
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Speaker 2: Guys that either our veterans who just want to try

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Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl or those up and comers

921
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Speaker 2: that maybe weren't in a prominent role with their previous

922
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Speaker 2: team that are willing to sign a cheaper deal because

923
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Speaker 2: the Bills are good and they have Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be That's part of their free

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Speaker 3: agent pay.

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Speaker 1: The culture here has been a selling point for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years now. Von Miller alluded to it. I

928
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Speaker 1: think Leonard Floyd will probably aspire to it. Jordan Phillips

929
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: has been a huge proponent of what it means to

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Speaker 1: be a Buffalo Bill and has thrived here in Buffalo.

931
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Speaker 1: Word's gotten out. Plus, this is a team not for nothing.

932
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Speaker 1: We talked about the Pro Bowl and how guys go

933
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: out there and because you guys get hurt and whatever.

934
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Speaker 1: This is a team that notoriously, I say notoriously, they

935
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Speaker 1: don't let they protect guys from themselves. If you're not

936
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Speaker 1: ready to play, They're not going to let you play

937
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Speaker 1: whether you want to or not.

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Speaker 2: They're on the cautious side of injuries. They're not forcing

939
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: you back.

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Speaker 1: And that's in the vacuum of the offseason where you're

941
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Speaker 1: not really trying to go on a playoff run. You're

942
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Speaker 1: smart enough to say, you know what that means something?

943
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think beyond just those examples of Leonard

944
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Speaker 2: Floyd and Tim Settle and Taylor Rapp, how about over

945
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Speaker 2: the last three or four offseasons, Jordan Poyer coming back,

946
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Speaker 2: Matt Mulano maybe taking a little less money coming back,

947
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Speaker 2: Micah Hyde coming back. So I think for an outside

948
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: free agent, they could say, man Matt Milano probably could

949
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Speaker 2: have signed a bigger deal elsewhere, same with Jordan Poyer.

950
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Speaker 2: That they've been able to retain, whether they're through the

951
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Speaker 2: draft or were ultimately first brought in through free agency.

952
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Speaker 3: Like Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde, those guys.

953
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Speaker 2: Are, like you're saying, because of the culture and because

954
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Speaker 2: they win a lot of football games, you know, forty

955
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: eight and eighteen in the last four years, they get

956
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Speaker 2: here and then they want to come back and are

957
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: willing to maybe take a little bit of a pay cut.

958
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Speaker 2: Mitch Morse takes a pay cut and Nhem Hines takes

959
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: a pay cut. I think that speaks to the outside

960
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: free agency as well.

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Speaker 1: No question from Andrew on the tweets sheet, he says,

962
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Speaker 1: the biggest question is with what money. I think this

963
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: team's gonna have to build through the draft and get

964
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: young talent and hope they step up and prove themselves.

965
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Speaker 1: I predict a very young Bills team this next season. Well,

966
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Speaker 1: they weren't young this year, and you're right. I think

967
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Speaker 1: they will be markedly on average younger than they were

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, and I'm not too afraid of that though.

969
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Speaker 2: What's good too, And like you mentioned it last segment,

970
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Speaker 2: they don't have a ton of money. We mentioned some

971
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: bargain bin free agents. They'll add guys here and there.

972
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Speaker 2: But what's good about the Bill situation this offseason? This

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Speaker 2: is a draft that they have with ten draft picks,

974
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Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, had they been going in with say

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Speaker 2: they traded away a bunch of picks, they only had

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Speaker 2: five draft picks and no money, it's hard to replenish

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Speaker 2: your roster, like you were kind of mentioning, if you

978
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Speaker 2: have ten draft picks. Maybe you don't make all ten,

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Speaker 2: maybe a trade up once or twice, but to bring

980
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Speaker 2: in a bigger draft class, cheap young labor, you kind

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Speaker 2: of need that when you're a team that is paying

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Speaker 2: a quarterback a ton of money and doesn't have a

983
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Speaker 2: lot of cap space like the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Ye, it's the economics of the NFL. Now, you've got

985
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Speaker 1: to have guys who outperform their contracts. Sometimes all you

986
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 1: got to do is show up to do that because

987
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Speaker 1: they need they need a warm body at the bottom

988
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Speaker 1: of the roster. From Andrea last one on the tweets sheet,

989
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Speaker 1: I have all the faith in the world in Brandon Bean.

990
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: We have some create we need some creative bookwork. And

991
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to our cap situation, yeah, the people

992
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: think it's creative bookwork by Brandon Bean. Basically it's not.

993
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: It it is can't be a little creative at times,

994
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: but mostly it's Terry Pegoula right in the check, you know,

995
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: because that's what happens. You have to give him the

996
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: money up front so that you can spread out a

997
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Speaker 1: huge cap hit over the over the coming years. And

998
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's basically what.

999
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: What a lot of owners won't do.

1000
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Speaker 1: That either some owners will not do it. They won't

1001
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: they won't give them the green light to do it,

1002
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Speaker 1: and that's been one of the reasons Brandon Bean's been

1003
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: able to build a roster as he has. All Right,

1004
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. Steve Tasker, Christop Possible. We'll

1005
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: be back at the top of the hour. Got a

1006
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: lot more to talk about free agency, the draft, coaching moves,

1007
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on our National Football League,

1008
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: and of course there's some sort of game going on

1009
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: this next weekend. Steve Tasker, Chrystal Prost. So this is

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00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Klaidah Health. This is Buffalo

1011
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. This this One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

1012
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker, Chris Trapasso.

1013
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: Here till three o'clock. We're gonna talk spend a little

1014
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: time now going over. We talked at last segment a

1015
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: little bit about four or five free agents that are realistic.

1016
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: We're in the price range for the Buffalo Bills at

1017
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and you got guys like Leviscus Chana Kendrick Born,

1018
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, kJ Osborne, Olamedes Azikias from the Philadelphia Eagles

1019
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: this last year. But now we're going to talk about

1020
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: four or five guys that are maybe chances for the

1021
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Speaker 1: Bill to be around. When the Bills drafted number twenty

1022
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: eight and the number sixty whatever they fall wide receivers

1023
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: as well. This is going to and I hope all

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Speaker 1: our listeners are faithful listeners who listen every day. You're

1025
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: going to get sick to death of hearing about wide

1026
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: receivers and the Buffalo Bills drafted WK.

1027
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1028
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's a priority, it's a fun position. It's

1029
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: to me, a position that I think at this point

1030
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: is the second most important position on the field after quarterback.

1031
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: Now you could say left tackle, ed rusher. But if

1032
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: you do not have quality wide receivers plural, and I

1033
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Speaker 2: think we've seen the last two Division around losses for

1034
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Speaker 2: the Bills, I think they were a little deficient beyond

1035
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: Stefan Digg's. I mean, Khalil Shakir certainly stepped up, but

1036
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Speaker 2: I think comparing around the league, when you're looking at

1037
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and they're Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk

1038
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs have a bunch of different weapons that

1039
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: they can spread the football around to I think it's

1040
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: a sign that you do need to have two or

1041
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: three quality receivers, and it's just the Stars have a

1042
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: line for the Bills too late in the first round

1043
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Speaker 2: or maybe in the second go wide receiver.

1044
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Speaker 3: They haven't done that in a really long time.

1045
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Speaker 1: All right, So let's start with it's interesting that I'm

1046
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: getting to the point in my life where you're starting

1047
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: to see names that you recognize and recognize because I

1048
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: played with their dad. Lad McConkey from Georgia. Career catch

1049
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Speaker 1: rate over seventy five, thirty four missed tackles, and he

1050
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: runs well after the ball after it's caught. Talking with

1051
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Speaker 1: one at the bottom of the list there, give us

1052
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: a story about this Georgia receiver.

1053
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyone that's watched Georgia football over the last

1054
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: couple of years and they've really and they've lost one

1055
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Speaker 2: game in three years. Lad McConkey was not a high

1056
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: volume guy, but runs awesome routes, catches everything you're not

1057
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Speaker 2: gonna see, concentration drops or throw right in the bread

1058
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Speaker 2: basket that he drops. What I like about him and

1059
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Speaker 2: why I think he's maybe even a possible consideration in

1060
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Speaker 2: the first round. He's a plus athlete. He's not just

1061
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Speaker 2: someone that wins with quickness and it's not really that fast,

1062
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 2: can't jump very high. I think he's going to test

1063
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: very well at the combine. Will that be all the

1064
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: way to twenty eight, We'll see, but certainly in the

1065
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: first couple rounds if the Bills wanted someone to hit

1066
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Speaker 2: the ground running right away. Can be a fifty to

1067
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Speaker 2: sixty catch guy as a rookie, if maybe more with

1068
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen meth lamber yanky.

1069
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Speaker 1: And he's played well at the highest level, you can

1070
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Speaker 1: check it him out at given unless it's pro football

1071
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: in another league. But this guy's doing it against you know, SEC.

1072
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Speaker 3: Scorners at the highest round and second round corner.

1073
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Speaker 1: So he's doing against superior athletes, which is what you

1074
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Speaker 1: want to really see as well. Another guy that you've

1075
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Speaker 1: talked well, and I say Lad mccony his dad. I

1076
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Speaker 1: think it is his dad. I think Phil or his

1077
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Speaker 1: uncle or something. I think Phil McConkie.

1078
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're related. I don't think that out.

1079
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Speaker 1: He's he falls in that age group though, right so

1080
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Speaker 1: I'm it would work. Yeah, anyway. Another one is Jermaine

1081
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: Burton Alabama. He's got really fast guy over twenty yards

1082
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: of grabbing twenty twenty three eighteen yards of catch in

1083
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: his Crimson Tide career. This is a guy he can fly. Yeah.

1084
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 2: To me, he is the most effortlessly fast wide receiver

1085
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: in the entire class. Now, I haven't watched every single receiver,

1086
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: but I'm like fifteen to twenty guys deep. Jermaine Burton

1087
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: just wakes up and can run in the four fours.

1088
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna probably run in the four threes

1089
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: at the combine decent size, right around six foot, two

1090
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: hundred pounds. He played on the perimeter at Alabama, and

1091
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: like a lot of these players now, Steve started at Georgia,

1092
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: transferred to Alabama and.

1093
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: Was good in both places.

1094
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: He was a contributor on some of those Georgia Bulldogs

1095
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: teams or three and four years ago. Goes to Alabama,

1096
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, averages a crazy amount of yards per catch,

1097
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: not a lot after the catch, but his route running

1098
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: is good, very sure hands. If the Bills want to

1099
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: add speed and a vertical element that I think was

1100
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: missing in this offense, we all kind of agree that

1101
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: that's what the Bills need Jermaine Burton. Probably not a

1102
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: first rounder, maybe even a second or a third rounder.

1103
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: The Bills should probably have him in their crosshairs.

1104
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is you know, it's great to see

1105
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: all these young guys, and I love watching the highlights.

1106
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Brownie sits there at his desk and goes

1107
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: through these guys, and you know what, you know what

1108
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: it's like. The problem is it's hard to get film

1109
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: on them. You can see their highlights. I want to

1110
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: see their low lights, you know. I want to see

1111
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: what they are away from the ball. I want to

1112
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: se when their number is not called. Some of that

1113
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: goes into this as well, particularly if you're going to

1114
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: draft him high in the draft. You got to know

1115
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: more about them than just what their top end is.

1116
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: And specifically with wide receivers that yes, you can see

1117
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: the highlights, the deep balls, the contested catches. Are they

1118
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: able to beat press coverage at the line of scrimmage.

1119
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: That's something that a lot of receivers don't see very

1120
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: frequently in college, in the SEC more so than other conferences.

1121
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: But if you can't beat a guy one on one

1122
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: in press coverage, you're gonna have problems. Early in the

1123
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: NFL with physicality and are you good after the catch?

1124
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: I am the biggest yards after the catch proponent you're

1125
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 2: probably gonna see in the NFL media field.

1126
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 3: I just think you have to be able.

1127
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 2: To take that slant forty yards for a big play

1128
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: or fifty yards for a touchdown. The Bills have gotten

1129
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: better in that regard, but I still think they could improve.

1130
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: The Chiefs and the forty nine Ers, the two teams

1131
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl have for the last five or

1132
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: six years been the best yards after the catch teams

1133
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: in football. You make Josh Allen's life a little easier.

1134
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: He can throw a shallow cross that turns into a

1135
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: thirty yard gain, so you got to watch that too.

1136
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: And not all these receivers are great after the catch.

1137
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: So in scouting you love the highlights, but you also

1138
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 2: have to mark down what are the weaknesses for these players.

1139
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: And just incidentally, the guy we were talking about first,

1140
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: Lad McConkie, is no relation to Phil mconkaey. The no relationship,

1141
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: no relation, So it got that cleared up. But still

1142
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: I have tissue, so I think about those things all right.

1143
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: Another guy is Troy Franklin out of Oregon. A little

1144
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: taller guy also had some good numbers from last year.

1145
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's someone that is probably right behind Jermaine Burton.

1146
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 3: The easiest speed.

1147
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: Like I like to call it, in the entire class, like,

1148
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: he absolutely glides, very unique frame. He's listed and be

1149
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: monitoring this at the Combine, I certainly will. He is

1150
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: listed at six foot three and one hundred and eighty

1151
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: seven pounds. That is tall and lanky, and if you

1152
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: look back the last three to five years at the Combine,

1153
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: some of these crazy fast guys getting in the four

1154
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 2: twos or low four threes are usually in that between

1155
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty and one hundred and ninety pound

1156
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: range where they can really fly down the football field.

1157
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: What I like about Troy Franklin in terms of his

1158
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: career reminds me a lot of Khalil Shakir is that

1159
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: three years back to back to back at a Marquee

1160
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: school where he was productive. This was not someone that

1161
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: just in his final season as a senior really showed out.

1162
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the touchdown numbers went up considerably, but the catches,

1163
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: the receiving yards for Troy Franklin down the football field

1164
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: at six ' three can certainly play on the outside.

1165
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: That's really where he was mostly aligned in college. He's

1166
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: that number twenty eight overall pick. I think that's where

1167
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: he's gonna probably have to be selected. And if you're like, hey,

1168
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: the Bills need to add a vertical element to the offense.

1169
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: If it's not Jermaine Burton in the second round, it

1170
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: might have to be Troy Franklin from Oregon. Watches entire film,

1171
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: but certainly his highlights. You see a lot of big

1172
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 2: catches on the vertical route tree.

1173
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's it's fun to go down and

1174
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: look at these guys because they all have nice careers,

1175
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: they all play.

1176
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 3: They all there's so many good receivers.

1177
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a very direct class in it. And

1178
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: you continue to go down the list. This Brian Thompson

1179
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: junior now out of LSU. Brownie loves this guy. Yeah,

1180
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: why does he?

1181
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: Why so he's listed as my number two guy here

1182
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 2: because you watch Malik Neighbors, who is the more high

1183
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: profile LSU wide receiver. You're watching him, you say, okay, man,

1184
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: he looks like a top ten pick. But as you're

1185
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: watching again, not just the highlights, you're watching full games

1186
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: from LSU last season. Of course, they had Jayden Daniels

1187
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: winning the Heisman at quarterback. You're like, who is this

1188
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: bigger wide receiver that's making a ton of plays down

1189
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: the field. He had like over fifteen touchdowns last season.

1190
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: You're like, it's Brian Thomas Junior six foot four two

1191
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: h five, So another taller, more sleek, framed wide receiver.

1192
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: Yards after the catch are good because he's just a

1193
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: moose in space, and being six foot four, Brian Thomas

1194
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: plays to his size. You can throw him a slot

1195
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: fade from the twenty yard line, a normal goal line fade.

1196
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: Josh Allen could just throw the football on a post

1197
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: route down the field and be pretty rest assured that

1198
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas is going to come down with the football.

1199
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,479
Speaker 2: So he is a vertical element to the offense because

1200
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: he's fast and because, like I mentioned with Kendrick Bourne,

1201
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: he can just come down with the football in those

1202
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: contested catches. That was kind of a problem for this

1203
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: Bill's wide receiver group as a whole, especially late in

1204
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: the season and being at LSU. They have a long

1205
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: lineage of high caliber wide receivers Odell Beckham Junior, chief

1206
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: among them. Brian Thomas Junior will probably be the second

1207
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: LSU wide receiver off the board in the first round

1208
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: because he's not quite as dynamic of an athlete. He's

1209
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: not going to go as early as his teammate Malik Neighbors.

1210
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: But I think he's someone that would be there at

1211
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: twenty eight most likely or in within striking distance for

1212
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean to trade up. And is a hit the

1213
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: ground running type who's going to be good as a

1214
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: rookie and like I mentioned earlier, can ultimately mature into

1215
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: being that wide receiver number one in the coming years

1216
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: for Buffalo.

1217
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: So the final finally we get to your top guy

1218
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: who may be, as you know, a guy that's there.

1219
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: Javon Baker UCF started at Alabama. He had twenty two

1220
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: yards per catch, this last twenty two yards a catch,

1221
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: this last.

1222
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: Sear twenty two yards a catch, and that tells you

1223
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: all you need to know. Is he a vertical threat? Yes, absolutely.

1224
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: Now I don't think he's going to run as fast

1225
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: as Troy Franklin or as fast as Jermaine Burton, but

1226
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: the contested catches, the acrobatic grabs near the sideline, body control,

1227
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: contorting his body, twisting in the air, he is as

1228
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: good as any wide receiver in this class.

1229
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: Six foot one, two h eight at the Senior Bowl.

1230
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: From all the reports that I read down in Mobile,

1231
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: he had an awesome week. And with Javon Baker, his

1232
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: athleticism is as smooth as any wide receiver in this class,

1233
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: and that means being flexible, taking physicality in the route

1234
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: and not getting pushed off the route. Yards after the

1235
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: catch are certainly there. He kind of reminds me of

1236
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: Stefan Digs a little bit, a bigger version of Stefan Diggs,

1237
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: who was a fifth round pick out of Maryland. He

1238
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: was not a super highly sought after prospect in that

1239
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: draft class in twenty fifteen. So Javon Baker is someone

1240
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: that you're not gonna hear as much about compared to

1241
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas or Troy Franklin, and the Bills could probably

1242
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: get him in the second round. I don't think it's

1243
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: out of the question that Javon Baker tests into the

1244
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: first round because I think the vertical that you saw

1245
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: on film is going to be close to forty inches

1246
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: if not higher.

1247
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: And he's just someone that on film.

1248
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: I absolutely loved his entire skill set, beating press coverage routes,

1249
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: the athleticism, and then again that ability in traffic when

1250
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: there's his safety over the top or corners in tight

1251
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: that Javon Baker can make those difficult grabs. Did that

1252
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 2: a lot on his way to averaging twenty two yards

1253
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: per catch last season.

1254
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: So how many guys? All right, so you got these

1255
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: five guys, Lad Mcconkiy, Jermaine Burton, Tony Franklin, Brian Thomas junior,

1256
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: Javon Baker. How many guys generally speaking, are you talking about,

1257
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: are going to go above these guys? What's the range?

1258
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: Is it going to be like four to five guys

1259
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: ahead of these guys or more or less? What do

1260
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: you think?

1261
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: That's a really good question.

1262
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: Last year there was famously four wide receivers that went

1263
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: in a row right in front of the Bills. Now

1264
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: we'll never know were they going to pick one of

1265
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: those wide receivers or do they just love Dalton Kincaid.

1266
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: I kind of think they just love Dalton Kinkaid traded

1267
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: up for him. Probably three in this draft class, Marvin

1268
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior, Malik Neighbors, and probably one more. We don't

1269
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: know who that's going to be. That could be Brian

1270
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior. It's very NFL combine contingent. And you can

1271
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: look back at the history of wide receivers and Steve

1272
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: knowses from his time playing the fast wide receivers, the

1273
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: guys who test well, they usually go higher. You can't

1274
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: be a mid four or five wide receiver and go

1275
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: in the first round. So we'll see Roman Dunze from Washington.

1276
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: He may test a little bit slower and maybe he's

1277
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: all of a sudden available. I didn't put him on

1278
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: that list because I didn't think based on his film

1279
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: that he would be there at twenty eight. But in

1280
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: this draft class, I think you can kind of pencil

1281
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: in or maybe right in pen three receivers in front

1282
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: of the bills at twenty eight, which is better than

1283
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: what happened last year.

1284
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: Right, and you're right, and how it falls. There's a

1285
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: lot to find out before.

1286
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: The and the combines is huge, O.

1287
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: The pro days are huge. The interviews are are just

1288
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: as big as all of that, the pro days and

1289
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: even the combine. First thing is the medical. If the

1290
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: guy is one hundred percent healthy, that's job one. If

1291
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: he's had an injury, what's it like what's it looked like.

1292
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: And that's when the teams get their doctor's hands on them.

1293
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: And secondly, secondly important is the interviews. When they sit

1294
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: down and go face to face with this guy, does

1295
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: he impress them as a human being, as a leader,

1296
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: as a as a football player, what motivates him? Those

1297
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: are the first two things that happened to the combine.

1298
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: None of us know anything about.

1299
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: What happened, and we never hear about it.

1300
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: It's it's all eye candy when they go out and

1301
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: run forties and do all the running and stuff.

1302
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: I always find that disparity really interesting with the combine.

1303
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: That you may get a leaked report if someone had

1304
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: a great interview or bond his interview.

1305
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: But there's one part of the combine. You see all

1306
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 3: the numbers.

1307
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: You know how fast they ran, you know how high

1308
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 2: they jumped, how far they jumped the three cone. But

1309
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: like what you mentioned, and I hear it every year

1310
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, the most important parts are the interviews and

1311
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: the medicals. That is does not get released to the

1312
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: media to the public, so you don't know. Someone on

1313
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: film could be awesome, could run for four with a

1314
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: forty inch vertical, but even as a receiver. If he

1315
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: doesn't understand how to sit down in zone? Is it

1316
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: manner zone? And understanding all that doesn't seem too motivated.

1317
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: That could ultimately drop him in the draft. And we

1318
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 2: just won't know until draft weekend.

1319
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: That's right, and some of these guys will believe me.

1320
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: These teams employ professional interrogators to find out about what

1321
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: makes this guy tick. They ask pointed questions, difficult question

1322
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: That's why. Once in a while you get somebody who's

1323
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: not like that to ask some kakamamie question that is

1324
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: like that gets out and it's like the team looks bad,

1325
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: so they have professionals do it. And the way the

1326
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: kid answers his language, the words he uses, his attitude

1327
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 1: in answering it, and what he doesn't say all goes

1328
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: into it and they find out they know when push

1329
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: comes to shove, why the kid really plays football. And

1330
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: you think the old question is you know, do you

1331
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: like football? Well you got to be a dope not

1332
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: to say, of course, I like fully, Yeah, I love it.

1333
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: You say it every time. There are guys that don't

1334
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: mean it. Yeah they think they mean it, but they don't.

1335
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: And through questioning you find out what guys are going

1336
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: to be motivated when they get paid, when they get hurt,

1337
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: when they when they have some you know, they come

1338
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 1: up some hard luck. All of this stuff you're gonna

1339
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: find out. You're gonna know exactly how that guy's going

1340
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: to react. And that's important. If you're gonna give the kid,

1341
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: literally a twenty million dollar contract, that's all guaranteed, he

1342
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: better check a lot of boxes that you can't really

1343
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: readily see.

1344
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And one story on this note, So I mentioned

1345
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs in the twenty fifteen draft goes in the

1346
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: fifth round. What's so interesting about that? That was one

1347
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: of the first draft, the second draft class that I

1348
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: really dove into. So Fon Diggs was the number one

1349
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver recruit coming out of high school. In his

1350
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: in his final season, he could have gone anywhere, he

1351
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: decides to stay home at Maryland. In the final season

1352
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: at Maryland was not as good as his second to

1353
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,959
Speaker 2: last season, and now he admits that he was making

1354
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: some business choices. He was running out of bounds on

1355
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: a third and five one yard short that ultimately led

1356
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: to him going in the fifth round. When the Vikings

1357
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: picked him, they were getting like a first or a

1358
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: second round talent with Stefan Diggs, so all those things

1359
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: you wonder, hey, how is he still there in the

1360
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: fifth round? This guy was great at Maryland, he admits now,

1361
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 2: and I've heard interviews from him since he's joined the

1362
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: Bills that he was open about that, and he said, look,

1363
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: I didn't want to get hurt. I wanted to provide

1364
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: for my family, and in his final season he maybe

1365
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: didn't play at one hundred percent effort. Once he got

1366
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: to the NFL, though, we've seen how much of a

1367
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: tireless worker he is. So a lot of those components

1368
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: go into the draft that we don't see and we

1369
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: don't hear about until years later, if at all.

1370
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: Listen, it's a different world now, you know, eight or

1371
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: nine years later, however long Digs has been in the league,

1372
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: and it's vastly different from when I played. You've got guys,

1373
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: multiple guys opting out of the Bowl games for their.

1374
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 3: Teams and transferring.

1375
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: Schools, making some business decisions openly and overtly for their

1376
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: own careers at the college level. It's a little bit

1377
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: more accepted now, and quite frankly, it's probably the smart

1378
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: thing to do in a lot of respects, but they're

1379
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: getting to the point where they do understand if they

1380
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: do strap it on and they go, they better play well.

1381
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: They better play well because if they don't, it does

1382
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: say something about them. There's the stuff you hear even

1383
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: about Caleb Williams, and people are starting to dissect what

1384
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: he has done in his career. There have been times

1385
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: when he did not look great in games or whatever,

1386
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: and it wasn't the fact that he didn't play well

1387
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: or through an interception. It was what he was doing

1388
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: on the sidelines after that interception or when his team

1389
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: was down and they needed some leadership. Was he providing

1390
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: the kind of leadership with body language, with the posture

1391
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: and all that stuff on the sidelines. He's taken some criticism.

1392
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: For that, and that's a fantastic point too, that again

1393
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: can be tied back to the Bills. I remember reading

1394
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: a couple of profiles this time of year on Bills

1395
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: GM Brandon Bean and he mentions that he and I

1396
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: believe at the time it was assistant GM Joe Shane,

1397
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: and I'm sure a lot of the billstaff does this

1398
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: still today. They travel in season to college games on Saturday,

1399
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 2: and part of me reading these, I'm thinking, why does

1400
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean need to go to LSU Alabama. He can

1401
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: watch the film, he can rewind it, he can zero in.

1402
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: And in those profiles he mentions, Look, I go to

1403
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: watch the game. I take notes on some of the

1404
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 2: players that we're watching, but I mostly go to watch.

1405
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: When that player gets off the sideline, is he yelling

1406
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: at his teammates. Is he going right over to the

1407
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 2: coaches to get criticism, to try to get better. Is

1408
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: he go into the Microsoft surface and seeing what he

1409
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: did wrong on this play, whether he be a quarterback

1410
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 2: or a wide receiver corner. And I thought that was

1411
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: interesting that even in this day where we have so

1412
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: much technology available and certainly on GM for an NFL

1413
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: team doesn't have any problems getting filmed, he still makes

1414
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: those trips from Buffalo down to LSU and Georgia and

1415
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: Florida State to watch, like what you just mentioned on

1416
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: the sideline, how those players interact with coaches, how coachable

1417
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: they are, and how they are towards their teammates, Because,

1418
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: like you mentioned earlier, the culture in Buffalo under Sean

1419
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: McDermott has certainly become a thing that absolutely matters all.

1420
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here. We're gonna take a

1421
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: call from Judy in Buffalo and see what she has

1422
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: to say. Judy, this you're on with Steve and Chris.

1423
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: What's on your mind?

1424
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 5: Several things? Okay, the only free agent I like is

1425
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 5: Kendrick Bourne. I'd watched him with New England. He was

1426
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 5: very impressive in games against US, So if we go

1427
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 5: that way, I would be in on Kendrick Bourne. Secondly,

1428
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 5: we have a receiver that we drafted as in a

1429
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 5: fifth round, Justin Shorter. We're not even mentioning him. Is

1430
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 5: he a wasted commodity or is he a prospect?

1431
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: He's injured? Go ahead?

1432
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I realize that, but I mean is he going

1433
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 5: to say injured for two three years?

1434
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: What? Okay? Go ahead?

1435
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 6: Next? Okay.

1436
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 5: The Ravens, the Chiefs and the Rams drafted a receiver

1437
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 5: in the first round who were very impactful. That is

1438
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 5: why I keep saying, you draft two speedy receivers. I

1439
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 5: don't know who they are, and forgive me, but a

1440
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 5: quality backup quarterback. Those are my comics, all right?

1441
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: Good stuff? Yeah, you're right, and I will agree with you.

1442
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: There's a couple of ways to do it, and I

1443
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: would agree with your way to do it. You draft

1444
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of those guys and pick the best one. Now,

1445
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: justin Shorter, I personally I have high hopes for him.

1446
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: I see him walking around the building. He is, he's been.

1447
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: He was on IR this year, so he wasn't gonna play.

1448
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: I would suspect, Oh, I haven't had this verified. I

1449
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just suspecting that the Bill stashed him

1450
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: there to keep him around. I think the guy's really gifted.

1451
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: And the thing was Shorter is at Florida at six '

1452
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: five almost two thirty. He's a big dude. He was

1453
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: a down the field, post route and go route wide

1454
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: receiver who did not drop a lot of passes. So

1455
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: I've kind of had suspicion that he was that Gabe

1456
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 2: Davis insurance that they're like, if Gabe Davis either disappoints

1457
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: or he's not on the team, in twenty twenty four,

1458
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: we'll have someone that can maybe not do everything at

1459
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver, but be that vertical element.

1460
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: He'll have to he'll have to expand his route tree.

1461
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's deep, he's got to run more

1462
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 1: routes and all that and he may be, and he's

1463
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: obviously working on that this off season, and if he

1464
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: was healthy enough to practice at all during the season,

1465
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: he would do that as well. But he I've got

1466
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: high hopes for him. Also, Ken, I agree with you.

1467
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne's guy's very intriguing to me. He killed our

1468
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: team at times and I'd love to have him on

1469
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: our side. And the philosophy of like Baltimore, La Rams

1470
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: in Kansas City drafted a number one wide out. Some

1471
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: teams do that, other teams do not, uh for whatever,

1472
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: they believe an elite quarterback can elevate the guys around.

1473
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: And the Kansas City's in the Super Bowl they got

1474
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: rid of an elite wide receiver in Tyreek Hill. Aaron

1475
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers kept going to the playoffs and kept playing really

1476
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: well in Green Bay, and they famously never gave him

1477
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: a number one wide receiver. They was drafted later and

1478
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: gave him guys. But although he did get the guy

1479
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: from that he got that went to the Raiders, what's

1480
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: the receiver DeVante Adams? He they did get guys like that,

1481
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: but was that Aaron Rodgers elevating the guy a little

1482
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: bit with his play and teams will rely on that

1483
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 1: from an elite quarterback.

1484
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why I've said Judy that I think

1485
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 2: it's that the Bills don't have to pick a receiver

1486
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: in the first round, but one of the first two

1487
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: rounds I think makes a lot of sense. And Devanta

1488
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: Adams was was a second round pick, Deebo Samuel second

1489
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: round pick for she Wright's second round pick. There's still

1490
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: quality talent. With how much wide receiver talent there is

1491
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: in the college game today, you can get to round two,

1492
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: you can get to pick sixty and still get a

1493
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 2: guy who's ultimately becomes a number one wide receiver.

1494
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: But the Bills just have to pick it early on.

1495
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: I'll speak very quickly on the backup quarterback thing, I

1496
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: think makes a lot of sense.

1497
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 3: At this point.

1498
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: We saw this season, not with the Bills, but the

1499
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: rest of the NFL how important backup quarterback is. I

1500
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: don't love the backend depth at the quarterback spot, but

1501
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 2: being that it's the most vital position on the field,

1502
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: and if Josh Allen were to be injured for a

1503
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 2: few games, you want a quality player there. It wouldn't

1504
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: be the worst idea later in the draft for the

1505
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: Bills to ultimately go in there.

1506
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm more of a qualitrant of veteran who everybody thinks

1507
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: is over the hill and who's not. All you're going

1508
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: to need the guy for is like four starts, that's

1509
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: most a month. Yeah, Joe Flacco gave the Browns that

1510
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: and the guys like nine thousand years old. That's what

1511
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: you need. Plus he's got some wherewithal and some experience

1512
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 1: that in the crunch times he can give some real

1513
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: advice to the guy who's actually gonna you want to

1514
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: do it, and that's Josh. I'm more of a line

1515
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: not to draft the guy. Get a guy who's done

1516
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: it and just wants to hang out for a year

1517
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: and maybe had a chance to win. That's my philosophy

1518
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: on the backup quarterback. We're gonna take a break, Christoph Passo,

1519
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. We'll be back with more of your tweet

1520
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Speaker 1: sheet and some more stuff around about the draft coming up.

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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live and you're listening to Buffalo

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: Bills Radio presented by Colida Health. Welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker, Christappasso. Here till the top of

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: the hour, we're going over the question we put to

1525
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: you is can the Bills get better? Or will the

1526
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: Bills get better in free to see this offseason. Most

1527
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 1: people say, yeah, there's a chance, but it's gonna have

1528
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: to be at bargain basement prices. We're also taking phone

1529
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: calls and we'll start this segment off with Wolf from

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: Only In if I can get him put up me,

1531
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: hold on, come on, Okay, there we go, Wolf, you're on.

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01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You guys are talking about receivers in the draft,

1534
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 4: and I kind of correlate that with quarterbacks in the

1535
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 4: first round. It's kind of boomerbust in my opinion, it

1536
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 4: really is. It's kind of a crap shoot. I think

1537
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 4: receivers are kind of spinning the wheel. It's really fifty

1538
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 4: to fifty in the first round. You think about it's

1539
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 4: hit or miss. For me, you look at teams around

1540
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 4: the league, it's to me, it's spinning the wheel. It's

1541
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: it's really hit or miss, just like really any position

1542
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 4: in the draft. I think to me, as a lifelong

1543
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 4: Viking fan, I look at recent history. Several years ago,

1544
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 4: a highly todded receiver like la Quan Treadwall around the

1545
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 4: same position in the draft, complete bust several years later.

1546
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, you hit the gold mine. You know it's

1547
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: it's just in both similar draft grades. You know, you

1548
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 4: get what you get and uh, it's it's it's similar

1549
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 4: with quarterbacks. You might strike it rich and you might

1550
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 4: just come up empty. And you watch the draft gurus

1551
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 4: like a mau Kuiper or a Tomasha. You know they

1552
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 4: throw you both k's on draft night. You hit the jackpot,

1553
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 4: but you don't know what you have until you have it,

1554
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 4: and and it really is hit or a mint the draft.

1555
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 4: You never know what you've got until the returns come in.

1556
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 4: And that's my comment. I just want to see what

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01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 4: your guest thinks about that.

1558
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thanks listen, Thanks Wolf, appreciate the call. Uh,

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: Chris you want to answer?

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01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Wolf, you make a very good point

1561
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: that no one really knows anything when it comes to

1562
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: the draft, even these teams that have investigators and guys

1563
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: watching film and super smart football guys, general managers, directors of.

1564
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,520
Speaker 3: College scouting, a whole drove of scouts.

1565
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 2: But I think the point here with the Bills is like,

1566
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: and you kind of mentioned it, Wolf, you don't know

1567
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 2: at any position it's not like, hey, you know, if

1568
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: you pick a center, he's going to be an all pro.

1569
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: That's certainly not the case in the case of the

1570
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: Bills this year.

1571
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 3: They just have to roll the dice at wide receiver.

1572
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: You don't, of course, say hey, we're we pick let's

1573
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 2: say Troy Franklin and we know he's going to be

1574
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: the next to Von Diggs or he's going to be

1575
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 2: Laqwan Treadwell. But it's time for the Bills to take

1576
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: that role in the first or in the second round.

1577
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 2: And like I just mentioned earlier, the second round has

1578
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: a very good track record over the last five to

1579
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: ten years with a lot of guys who, of course

1580
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: during the time of the draft were where the fifth

1581
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: or sixth or seventh receiver off the board, who have

1582
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: become really good pros. So it's not that if the

1583
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: Bills pick a receiver in the first round, we or

1584
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: just say hey, look, they have their future one thousand

1585
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: hour wide receiver. But it's time for them to take

1586
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: that role at the table.

1587
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Speaker 1: There's a million moving parts to what makes a human

1588
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: being a human being, and you can't it's hard to

1589
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: predict what they're going to do when certain aspects of

1590
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: their life changes when they go from college to becoming

1591
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: a professional, when they go from you know, having that

1592
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: guy throwing to him to this guy throwing to him

1593
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: when they're getting coached by that guy as opposed to

1594
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: this guy where they have to go out and find

1595
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: a place to live, be an adult basically, and grow

1596
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: up and get your own get a job, do it.

1597
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: And you know, the whole thing, there's a million moving parts,

1598
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: so you never know how that's going to project on

1599
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 1: some kid who you're talking to who's had his handheld

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01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: for four years through college.

1601
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: What I think a big thing is, to Wolfe's point

1602
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 2: and to what you just said, all of those moving parts,

1603
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: how does a wide receiver handle adversity, or any player,

1604
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 2: any first round of quarterback. I think the fact that

1605
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was at Wyoming was not playing with a

1606
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: bunch of five star wide receivers an awesome offensive line,

1607
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: and there were times where they would go to Iowa

1608
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,440
Speaker 2: and get blown out and they played Oregon and got embarrassed,

1609
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: where he had already had the experience of dealing with adversity.

1610
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 2: Certainly at this point we all know how he went

1611
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: from you know, being a zero star recruit and the

1612
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: junior college are out and no one wanted him. I

1613
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: think that for a Lakwan Treadwell or a Jalen Rager,

1614
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 2: Guys who have struggled. Let's just say at wide receiver,

1615
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: they're stars. They go from five star recruits, they're the

1616
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: best player on their college team, and then suddenly.

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01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: First overall, first draft, you're a first.

1618
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 3: Round draft pick.

1619
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: Suddenly you don't just go out and in your sleep

1620
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: have five catches for one hundred and twenty five yards.

1621
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: So that ultimately factors into and that really is something

1622
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: that you do not know until you get to September

1623
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: of their rookie season. How do they handle not being

1624
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: the best player on the field from day one? It

1625
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: takes time to develop to become that guy.

1626
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, and it's you're right, guys.

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01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 3: Some guys can handle it. And some have all the

1628
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 3: four the.

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01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: Five star six cards, first round draft and they and

1630
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: they crumble other guys. And I'll say this too, there

1631
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: is something to having a chip on your shoulder when

1632
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: you come in and you you thought you were going

1633
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: to be a higher round draft pick and you're not,

1634
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: or you had this going for you and for the

1635
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: first time in your life. You're just another guy. Sometimes

1636
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: that motivates guys and sometimes that makes guys crumble. And

1637
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: that's what these interview processes are all about. They find

1638
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: out which are you going to do when when you

1639
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: hit adversity hit? So let's take another phone call. Let's

1640
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: go to Elliott. Elliott, go ahead, you're on with Chris

1641
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:36,520
Speaker 1: and Steve.

1642
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 6: Hey, Stephen, Chris, Chris love your stuff on your mock drafts,

1643
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 6: and I use it a lot to make some of

1644
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 6: my own actually nice. So I love your stuff. And

1645
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 6: so I was looking at one of the mocks you

1646
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 6: put out and you had the Bills taking teds Walker

1647
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 6: out of North Carolina. I know his work and kind

1648
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 6: of film is a little bit limited. He dealt with

1649
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 6: some crap from the Untuba. But you also know we

1650
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 6: have the Jags and the Bengals taking Jaggs, taking Romo

1651
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 6: dunte and the Bengals taking Brian Thomas Junior with Chie

1652
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 6: Higgins likely leaving. So my thing is, in my opinion,

1653
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 6: the Bills need a guy that can catch the ball downfield,

1654
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 6: a bigger guy, you know, guy that can replace like

1655
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 6: a Gabe Davis Dice who's likely going to be departing.

1656
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 6: We love Gabe, but uh just probably won't be able

1657
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 6: to afford him. I'm more in the bucket that you

1658
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 6: know thinks the Bills need a guy like Brian Thomas Jr.

1659
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 6: I like Brian Thomas Junior over you know, the Keon

1660
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 6: Coleman's and Ted Walkers personally. But I called to see

1661
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 6: what you think the what kind of guy fits best

1662
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 6: with the Bills because Lad McCaughey is a great prospect,

1663
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 6: but a smaller one he would be great. But I

1664
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 6: think Josh Allen he's a guy. He can get the

1665
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 6: ball downfield too. People criticize him for his turnovers. Much

1666
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 6: of the time it's third and long, fourth and long

1667
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 6: and they're going for it. He chucks it downfield with

1668
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 6: the shakiirs of the Diggs. I don't think those guys

1669
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 6: are big enough to make those plays when Josh Hell's

1670
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 6: putting it up. So just curious on what you both think,

1671
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 6: what kind of guys that's the best for the Bills

1672
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 6: in that spot.

1673
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll start Elliott.

1674
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: I always go back to the twenty twenty Bills when

1675
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 2: they had Stefon Diggs Cole Beasley underneath catching everything out

1676
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: of the slot underneath, just chain mover. John Brown, who

1677
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 2: even at that point was getting close to thirty ran

1678
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: in the low four threes four to three four coming

1679
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: out of Pittsburgh State twenty fourteen. He was a downfield guy,

1680
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: and then you throw in this downfield rookie at the time,

1681
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: gave Davis who could also get down the field. To me,

1682
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: that was the best most dynamic Bills offense in the

1683
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: Josh Allen era to date. They need a vertical element

1684
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: to their wide receiver group. That doesn't mean that he

1685
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 2: doesn't need to do anything else. Certainly getting a more

1686
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 2: well rounded skill set, whether that is Brian Thomas or

1687
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: Troy Franklin or Jermaine Burton, whatever that is, it needs

1688
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: to be. It needs to come with beating teams over

1689
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: the top. And I think you saw it in the

1690
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: Division around loss to the Chiefs and late in the season,

1691
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 2: and then certainly last year when they brought back John

1692
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 2: Brown and Cole Beasley late in the season, that they

1693
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: were not able to threaten teams at all three levels. Underneath,

1694
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: We're still very good intermediate level. Josh Allen is always

1695
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: going to be as good as any quarterback in the league,

1696
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: just based on how accurate he is, how fast you

1697
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 2: can throw the football, digs getting open there. Now with

1698
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 2: the tight ends at the intermediate level, they missed the

1699
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: downfield element. So it's impossible to tell how many receivers

1700
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: are off the board who's available. But what's good is

1701
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: I think, and we outlined them earlier, whether it's Brian Thomas,

1702
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 2: or it's Troy Franklin, or it's Jermaine Burton, Javon Baker,

1703
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 2: there are a there is a glut of downfield wide

1704
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: receivers in this draft class.

1705
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why go ahead, Okay.

1706
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, notably the Bengals in Chiefs

1707
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 6: to be a terror for the Bills and the Bills

1708
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 6: a terror for them, respectively. But my thing is we

1709
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 6: got to make sure the Chiefs don't jump us. And

1710
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 6: I think what would the Bills be willing to give

1711
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 6: up to jump the Bengals to get who they believe

1712
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 6: to be the best wide receiver prospect, Because to add

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01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 6: a great talent to Jamar Chase is just going to

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01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 6: be a nightmare. So that was the second part of

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01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 6: my question, is I really think if we can jump

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01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 6: to seventeen sixteen, I don't know historically what you would

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01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 6: have to give up to jump twelve spots in the

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01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 6: first round, but that was the second part. Go ahead, Steve, Yeah, you.

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01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: Might be right. Listen, we're sitting here because we know

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01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: the Bills really well, and I don't know how well

1721
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 1: you know the Bills. And thanks for the call, Elliott.

1722
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: Who knows who's going to go before you? And you're right,

1723
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 1: you're going to have to find out not as much

1724
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: about the other teams and their wishes and needs as

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01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: you know about your own and about the prospects. Yes,

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01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: they may lose t Higgins might. The Bengals, they might,

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01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: They might, they might not. They probably will, but that

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01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that automatically you're gonna plug a guy in

1729
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: in the first round of the draft to take his place.

1730
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: They may feel like they have other needs a team

1731
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: like the Bengals. I couldn't and I don't know the Bengals,

1732
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: so I can't tell you if that's the case or not,

1733
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised. We'll see they're You're right, though.

1734
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: When you look around when you're in the Bills spot,

1735
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: you're looking at the Chiefs, you're looking at the Bengals.

1736
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: You're looking at the Ravens.

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01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, what I would say to that point, with

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: ten draft picks and the fact that twenty nineteen is

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01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: the only year that Brandon Bean has not traded up

1740
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 2: in the first round. Done at the last two years,

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01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, no draft pick, twenty nineteen picked at Oliver

1742
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: and then of course twenty eighteen with with Edmunds and

1743
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 2: Josh Allen he traded up. So he has a history

1744
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: of making those ascensions. And I think Brandon Bean is

1745
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: certainly looking at the Ravens and and where the chief

1746
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 2: or what the Chiefs might ultimately do, and what the

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01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: Bengals are going to do. For as much as I

1748
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: advocate making as many draft picks as possible just to

1749
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 2: get as much young, fresh, cheap talent on the roster,

1750
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: if Brandon Bean sees it, if Malik Neighbors falls, or

1751
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 2: if Roman Donze from Washington is there and he's like

1752
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: he is our guy and we can jump and make

1753
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 2: sure that the Bengals don't pick him, I think Brandon

1754
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: Bean would certainly consider that in the first round.

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01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the move, no question about it.

1756
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, if a guy they thinks it can't miss

1757
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: and they wish they could get him. Falls within reach,

1758
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: they're going to reach.

1759
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: And he doesn't go to the Bengals or the Chiefs,

1760
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 3: They're going to reach for.

1761
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: Him no matter who's in front of him. If he's

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01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: a guy that they think is a difference maker and

1763
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: heat and they covet him, they will reach for him.

1764
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: They'll try and get him, and they'll have scenarios drawn out,

1765
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:54,480
Speaker 1: and probably already have had conversations with teams like Dallas

1766
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: and those teams just behind them and are ahead of

1767
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: them in the draft, just behind them in the standings,

1768
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: and they'll say about it, and they'll say this is

1769
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: what is going to take yeah, and then Dallas will say, listen,

1770
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: if our guy's there, we're going to take this guy,

1771
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: so forget it. That's what happened to the Bills in

1772
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: when they took Josh Allen and Chubb fell to Denver.

1773
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: Denver wanted him, so they kept him, kept the pick

1774
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: and took him at five, and the Bill stayed at

1775
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: seven and still got Josh Allen. So that's stuff. All

1776
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: is all going to happen at this point. It's hard

1777
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: to anticipate who's going to fall and who's going to

1778
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: want to take the guy and who you're going to

1779
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: have to jump ahead to get him. You're right, it's

1780
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: very early. I don't think the Bills can get outside

1781
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: get inside the top twenty though. They're not going to

1782
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 1: go from twenty eight to nineteen. It's too expensive. They

1783
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: need too many draft picks and they need to hit

1784
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: on more draft picks. And the more draft picks you have,

1785
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: the better chance you have a hit. And that's that's

1786
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 1: basically where they're going to be standing.

1787
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, exactly.

1788
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: We're going to take a break. Christopher Priso, Steve Tasker,

1789
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: We're going to hear come back and drop and wrap

1790
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: things up here at the top of the hour. This

1791
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. This is One Bill's Live, presented

1792
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 1: by Colida Health. We'll be right back. Welcome back to

1793
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: One Bill's Lives. Steve Taher, Chris Trapassel wrapping things up here.

1794
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Let's go back and finish up the tweet sheet. This

1795
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: from John. The question is will the Bills get better

1796
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: through free agency this off season? And John says hope

1797
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 1: they keep some vets from the d line and Poyer,

1798
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: but focus on getting Allen wide receiver weapons move up

1799
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: the draft to pick up a starter at wide receiver

1800
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 1: one slash two outscoring offenses wins more games than our

1801
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 1: defense does. Holding on to a lead from Jack, he says, Chris,

1802
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: this is for you, Chris, I wanted your thoughts on

1803
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: a d Mitchell. It's aid DONI Mitchell ad Mitchell from

1804
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: Texas late first round, early second round selection, and Ricky

1805
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: Pearsol late for a second or third round pick possible.

1806
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1807
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: So Ady Mitchell is kind of a light version of

1808
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior similarly size, and why I'm saying light

1809
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 2: is he's not quite as polished a route of a

1810
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: route runner. At this point, I think the upside with

1811
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: Ady Mitchell is as high as any receiver in the

1812
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: class because he is a fluid athlete, but really only

1813
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 2: one year of production started at Georgia transferred to Texas.

1814
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: He's someone that if.

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01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: The Bills were a little bit earlier in their rebuilding process,

1816
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 2: if this was twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, I would

1817
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: love Ady Mitchell for them, But I do think they

1818
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: want someone who's a little bit more polished and has

1819
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: more of a resume. Ricky piersaal great route runner, not

1820
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,839
Speaker 2: much of a vertical threat, but he liked Lad McConkie.

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01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 3: Second or third round.

1822
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: Is going to get open and catch everything thrown in

1823
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: his direction. So if the Bills are like, hey, we

1824
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: want someone that's going to be good instantly, Ricky Piersoll

1825
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: from Florida is another name.

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01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. You think about some of the draft picks we

1827
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: saw last year and this is what every general manager,

1828
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: every fan thinks they can do. Yeah, and so think

1829
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: about last year. You think CJ. Stroud was a surprise

1830
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: as a quarterback for the Houston Texans. You got to

1831
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: think he was at least a pleasant surprise, if not,

1832
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: if not a shock to some people. And finally, what

1833
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,560
Speaker 1: about Puka Nakua fifth rounder, fifth rounder, and all of

1834
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's like rookie offensive, your rookie the year.

1835
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,759
Speaker 2: On fourteens receiving over Yah.

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01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: That's what we're looking at. We're gonna be talking more

1837
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: about this tomorrow, more about a lot of stuff that's

1838
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: going on with the Super Bowl media day coming up,

1839
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 1: all of that stuff coming down. We're gonna be here

1840
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,879
Speaker 1: to talk about it tomorrow from one to three. Chris Trapasso,

1841
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, we'll talk to you tomorrow one we'll see

1842
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: everybody