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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, May third, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast where We're not

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Speaker 1: ready for silly Season. It's me and your man MG

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant joined by Michael f Florida. We got two

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Speaker 1: specialists over the side there. Shout out to Randy and

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Speaker 1: Albert for showing up and helping us out today. Yeah, Florida.

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Speaker 1: So the draft is in the rearview mirror. I guess

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Speaker 1: the next big thing for us around here is schedule release.

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Speaker 1: For how do you feel about schedule release?

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Speaker 2: Look, if the bosses are listening, I love the schedule release.

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Speaker 2: It is the greatest thing ever. We should have more

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Speaker 2: events like this. If the bosses have tuned out by now,

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Speaker 2: it is the most overhype thing in the sports because

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Speaker 2: we literally the moment play ends in week eighteen. We

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Speaker 2: know every opponent that every team is going to face.

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Speaker 2: We just don't know when on the calendar. It's basically

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Speaker 2: just unveiling accoun There is what it is. I understook,

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Speaker 2: I get it. I know it drives viewership. I understand

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Speaker 2: we do like a multi hour show about it. But

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, there's not I can't get myself.

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Speaker 1: Super excited about it. I don't know if you've ever

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Speaker 1: been here like long enough where like I have been

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Speaker 1: fortunate enough in the past, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say this, but whatever, if they come

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Speaker 1: for me, they come for me. Where I've had to

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Speaker 1: write about schedule release and so I will get the

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Speaker 1: schedule like a day or two in advance. It is

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Speaker 1: like top secret nuclear football level stuff. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: it is handed to you or email to you with

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Speaker 1: like bright red letters like do not release this under

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Speaker 1: penalty of death, and I'm like, I'm not gonna say anything,

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Speaker 1: but I know that like literally every beat writer in

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Speaker 1: existence is going to be leaking this though over the

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Speaker 1: next twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: The leaks of the schedule annoy me more than the

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Speaker 2: hype for the schedule release, because I'm like, we know this,

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Speaker 2: just let people get excited about it. But besides that,

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Speaker 2: the people who then have to write about it after

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Speaker 2: and like break it down. I'm like, you could have

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Speaker 2: wrote this article three months ago and just have been

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Speaker 2: sitting on it, because again, all we're finding out is

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Speaker 2: when the games.

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Speaker 1: Will been pretty much I mean, I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing I pull out of it is like when a

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Speaker 1: bye weeks, so you can like maybe you can prep

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Speaker 1: to grab somebody off the waiver wire for bye weeks

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Speaker 1: something like that. And you know, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: guess if you want when certain revenge matchups happened or something.

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Speaker 2: I do get excited to see who the international games are.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: That that to me is probably the I go like, okay,

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Speaker 2: who's playing overseas? Like is that? That's fun? And then

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Speaker 2: besides that, I look at the.

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Speaker 1: Bills, which usually is like Jaguars. That's usually what you know,

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Speaker 1: there's one London game of these is always the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: and then the rest of them you kind of fill

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Speaker 1: into blanks there. Of course, we mentioned the draft is over,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we we hitch back on Thursday

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Speaker 1: night with our Round one recap. Think if we let

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Speaker 1: a breathe for a couple of days and get back

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Speaker 1: to you with what happened days two and three. So

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Speaker 1: let's just break it down. We're gonna go through a

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Speaker 1: list of names by position, sort of figure out what

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Speaker 1: kind of dive further into the veteran winners and losers

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Speaker 1: guys themselves that were drafted. So let's start a quarterback

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Speaker 1: where the day began pretty much with Will Levis getting

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Speaker 1: drafted by the Tennessee Titans. One of the big stories

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Speaker 1: because he was not around one pick. Hopefully pick number

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Speaker 1: thirty three was good enough for her. So we go

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Speaker 1: to the Titans in round two. There are big questions

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Speaker 1: about what Levis's future could be. The range of outcomes

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Speaker 1: getting drafted by Tennessee does this mean that Malik Willis

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Speaker 2: Sadly, yes, Malik Willis, like last year, we were all

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Speaker 2: Like it was so rough that the Titans opted in

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Speaker 2: to know about Malik Willis and they use the second

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Speaker 2: I know Tannehill's going to start the season, but I

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Speaker 2: think the Titans are looking ahead to next season. So

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Speaker 2: my thinking was like, hey, if they struggle initially the

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Speaker 2: see a move to Elik Willis Because one, it gets

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Speaker 2: an experience too. It also helps their chances of increasing

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Speaker 2: their draft pick. But if they move on from Ryan

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Speaker 2: Tannehill in season, which I still expect them to do,

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Speaker 2: will Levis is going to get every opportunity He's He's

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Speaker 2: now the future for this team. So yeah, if you're

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Speaker 2: holding Malik Willis in dynasty or anything like that, I

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Speaker 2: think you gotta kind of let this one go.

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Speaker 1: This one, Yeah, it seems like they are ready to

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Speaker 1: move on now as of this moment and take that

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Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth. Malik Willis is still the QB

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Speaker 1: a competition brewing for that second spot. And it does

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Speaker 1: seem like, based on what we saw last year from

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Speaker 1: probably going to be the number two quarterback in Tennessee

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Speaker 1: The rest of this offense, I mean, look, they went

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Speaker 1: high draft capital. This offense just looks like it's still

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Speaker 2: Right now, and there's rumors that, like, hey, could they

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Speaker 2: still potentially move on from Derrick Henry And look, as

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Speaker 2: on paper. So will Levis right now, we could say

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Speaker 2: get into Caleb Williams sweepstakes, throw all of this away

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't think they're gonna be They're

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Speaker 1: I mean, credit Mike Vrabel for the job he does

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Speaker 1: if they are bad, I think they're you know, still

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Speaker 1: six seven wins bad, and so that's yeah, that's not

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals right now seem like the heavy.

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Speaker 1: Face again, look like early which is that's another interesting conversation,

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Speaker 1: maybe for a later time. But you've got Caleb Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 2: Would trade Kyler. I as I know it sounds wrong

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Speaker 2: to say, but you have a quarterback who's making a

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Speaker 2: much as I like Kyler Murray and I'm a big

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Speaker 2: years away, I don't think from being a super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 2: So you kind of want that rookie contract, I think.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, not only they have their first round pick,

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Speaker 2: and then replace that capital by trading Kyler.

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Speaker 1: He's a thing. Yeah. The the Cardinals team right for

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Speaker 1: having the knee injury. Obviously, Jared Goff is the guy

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Speaker 1: But dynasty wise, what do you feel about about Hindon Hooker.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the QB five in rookie drafts, and

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Speaker 2: obviously the three that went in the top four picks,

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Speaker 2: and then Will Levis. I don't know, because I tweeted

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Speaker 2: the other day that Hendon Hooker's closer to Jared Goff's

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Speaker 2: age than he is the other rookie quarterbacks, and some

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Speaker 2: of line fans were like, stop pointing out in his age,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. I think it does. When your breakout

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Speaker 2: that matters a little bit. The Lions have a lot

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get him in rookie drafts. Right now, I'm

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Speaker 2: just I don't know, Like, is he I understand he's cheaper,

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Speaker 2: but like, if Jared Goff plays well this year, I

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Speaker 2: know we're all kind of writing off Jared Goff's future

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Speaker 2: with the Lions, but I think they might look at

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Speaker 2: it and be, like, the NFC is wide open. If

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff has a good season and they make the

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Speaker 2: playoffs and stuff, why would they want to restart?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a good question. Now in theory they

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Speaker 1: It take a little bit less of a ca A hit,

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Speaker 1: So I mean that's something that's sort of keep in mind.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that whoever it is, if it's golf,

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Speaker 1: even if it's Hooker, the Lions are sort of in

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Speaker 1: this weird limbo state because here they were last year

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Speaker 1: nine and eight. They just missed out on the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They missed it on the last day of the season.

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Speaker 1: Even if they win the division, which is certainly possible, right,

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Speaker 1: they could win the NFC North. This is what a

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Speaker 1: ten to eleven win team, Maybe they win a game,

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Speaker 1: Maybe they win a game in the playoffs, which is

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Speaker 1: you know, a suspension potentially they got and they get

431
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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. Now, they draft kimdram Miller, a guy who

432
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Speaker 1: was drafted in the third round, so decent draft capital

433
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Speaker 1: spent on him. How do you approach this guy in

434
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Speaker 1: fantasy football? Pooh?

435
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Speaker 2: I have no idea right now. I think it all

436
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: depends on Alvin Kamara. My takeaway from this was this

437
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: is bad for Alvin Kamara because if the Saint look,

438
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Speaker 2: I know't no one knows how long an NFL suspension

439
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Speaker 2: might be, but I feel like the team has better

440
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Speaker 2: insight than we do. And if they're using a pretty

441
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Speaker 2: premium pick round three on a running back, to me,

442
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Speaker 2: that indicates, like, hey, they're planning on having life without

443
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Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara for at least a little bit. If Alvin

444
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Speaker 2: Kamara is missing like two games or something like that, Like, okay,

445
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: I expect Jamal Williams to lead the way and then

446
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: obviously Alvin Kamara. But if he's out like half the

447
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: season or something like that, then I think Ken J.

448
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: Miller becomes much more appealing. I'll also say, though in

449
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: early drafts Alvin Kamara is really falling, I kind of

450
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: see it as a buying opportunity because I'm like, hey,

451
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Speaker 2: if he even if he misses half the season, if

452
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Speaker 2: I could have Alvin Kamara at a huge discount be

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Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara the second half of the season. That's a

454
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Speaker 2: player that could win me a fantasy championship, you could.

455
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Speaker 1: And again, so much of it is us trying to

456
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Speaker 1: speculate what the league is going to do, and that's

457
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Speaker 1: what has to do with that ADP. I guess the

458
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Speaker 1: the flip side to that is, even at a depressed ADP,

459
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Speaker 1: could you wait? Could you can you afford to wait,

460
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Speaker 1: say eight weeks potentially on camera coming back? And that's

461
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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's hard to say right now in

462
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Speaker 1: early May. But I do take your point that if

463
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Speaker 1: they are spending a third round pick on Miller, they

464
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Speaker 1: are suspecting that they are going to be without Kamara

465
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Speaker 1: for some time. They need to find somebody who can

466
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Speaker 1: sort of fill in the gap a little bit. We

467
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Speaker 1: know what Jamal Williams can do. He was excellent last

468
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Speaker 1: year in Detroit. He can be that hammer, he can

469
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Speaker 1: be that goal line. I mean, I think ultimately they

470
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Speaker 1: would love to sort of try and recreate some version

471
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Speaker 1: of what they had with Kamara and mark Ingram and

472
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Speaker 1: maybe to a lesser extent, you can get that with

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Speaker 1: Miller and Williams. Ideally, I think they'd love to have

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Speaker 1: it with Kamara and Williams, but I'm just I'm sort

475
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Speaker 1: of confounded about what to do with Saints' players right now.

476
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Speaker 1: Aside from Chris o'lave, I don't know. I guess we'll

477
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Speaker 1: talk about Jawan Johnson a little bit later too. He's

478
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Speaker 1: another one who maybe we have a little bit more

479
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Speaker 1: clarity on. But I just don't know what to do

480
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Speaker 1: with Kendram Miller right now. When it comes to when

481
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Speaker 1: it comes to fantasy drafts, it's a lot. It really

482
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Speaker 1: is a lot. We talked about the Titans, Spears gets

483
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Speaker 1: drafted there. I know we said the offense is not

484
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Speaker 1: very good, that the Titans could be very bad. But

485
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Speaker 1: there is very much talk that Derek Henry might not

486
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Speaker 1: finish this season in Tennessee. I don't know that they

487
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Speaker 1: move him now because I don't know what they can

488
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Speaker 1: really get for him. But you get into the season,

489
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Speaker 1: a team realizes they need a running back, or somebody

490
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Speaker 1: gets hurt. If you're the Titans and you look around,

491
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Speaker 1: you realize you're not going anywhere. Maybe this is when

492
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Speaker 1: you move him sometime mid season before the trade deadline.

493
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Speaker 1: You can rack up a few draft picks. Beyond that,

494
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Speaker 1: I feel like TYJ Spears, of all the Day two

495
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Speaker 1: running backs, maybe is potentially the best spot because there

496
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Speaker 1: seems to be fewer obstacles to him getting opportunities. Am

497
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Speaker 1: I crazy for thinking that?

498
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think you're crazy. I think long term,

499
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: you can make the case that it is the best

500
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Speaker 2: landing spot. And I what I tweeted when he got

501
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Speaker 2: drafted was like, for dynasty purposes, I like this a

502
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Speaker 2: lot for redraft if Derek and he is still there,

503
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: Derek Henry backups don't tend to be all that fantasy

504
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: relevant because he gets all the touches, and especially if

505
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Speaker 2: Derek Henry's on the last year of his contract, I

506
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: would expect them to run him into the ground unless

507
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Speaker 2: they end up trading him or something like that. But

508
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: long term, I mean, we know, even the Vikings. Look,

509
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Speaker 2: we've never seen a Vikings team I'm sorry, Titans team

510
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: Mike Weaber led without Derek Henry. But in his tenure,

511
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: he's always been a run the ball type of coach.

512
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Speaker 2: So I could see Spears year two on being a

513
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: running back that we are very very excited about for fantasy.

514
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Speaker 1: I do think there's a role for him as kind

515
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: of a third down pass catching guy even as a rookie.

516
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Speaker 1: Now it's going to be limited, but they don't have

517
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Speaker 1: a lot of great pass catchers, right And I mean,

518
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Speaker 1: you know they got trail On Burks. Beyond that, you're

519
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: looking at who what the chigakon kuo that we kind

520
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: of like. I mean, I don't know how you feel

521
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: about Nick Westbrook A Keene Nope, Yeah, So I mean

522
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Speaker 1: Spears could have any role catching the ball out of

523
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Speaker 1: the backfield. And in the event that that Henry leaves Tennessee,

524
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Speaker 1: then I think the door is wide open for him.

525
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Speaker 1: So he's a guy that I like a lot, at

526
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Speaker 1: least I like the landing spot for him a lot.

527
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: I liked his skill set too before the draft, So

528
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, some things have to happen, but I think

529
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Speaker 1: fewer things have to happen for him to be viable

530
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Speaker 1: than for some of these other guys I think that

531
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Speaker 1: we've talked about so far today some other day. Three guys.

532
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Speaker 1: There's a trio of guys that I all sort of

533
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: phone similar categories. Rashawn Johnson goes to Chicago, Israel. Abana Konda,

534
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: who I like and I believe was a I think

535
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: lanceser Line yeah, told us about him as well. He

536
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: goes to the Jets, Douce Vaughan goes to the Cowboys,

537
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: and that was a cool story where his dad gets

538
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: to call him and says, Hey, we're gonna go to

539
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: work tomorrow. That was that was amazing. Any of these guys,

540
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: who do you like the most? I should say out

541
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Speaker 1: of that trio.

542
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Speaker 2: I like Deuce Vaughan the most, just because outside of

543
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard, I he could be their number two running

544
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Speaker 2: back there and I could see it potentially where he

545
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: kind of plays not what Tony Pollard was last year,

546
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: but remember like a couple of years ago, when like

547
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard wasn't getting a whole lot of touches, but

548
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: when he was, he was like looking super explosive. I

549
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: could see Deuce Vaughan having that kind of impact. Roshawn

550
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: Johnson is a better back than I think he gets

551
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: credit for. He could play on special teams too, But

552
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: that Chicago backfield is suddenly so crowded with a bunch

553
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: of options that I don't think really separate each other.

554
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: And Herbert Foreman, Johnson and Homer and I like Israel

555
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: as well. I would have butchered his last name, I think.

556
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: But you saw about a loaded backfield.

557
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just so many options there and that I

558
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: don't think he could be fantasy bro.

559
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: I just don't think he is. I mean, he's got

560
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: Breeze Hall, Bam Knight, Michael Carter. They did sign Travis

561
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: Dye fight On as a free agent after the draft,

562
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: and guy actually suffered a pretty serious injury right near

563
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Speaker 1: the end of the season. So I think his rookie

564
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: season is pretty much going to be a wash. But

565
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Speaker 1: there's so many guys there that I don't think a

566
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: Bona Khana is going to get much. You talk about

567
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Rashaan Johnson though, and the reason I don't think he

568
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: got more love in this draft is because he played

569
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: behind a dude named Jean Robinson. Yeah, you know, so

570
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: that made it hard for him to really get a

571
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: whole lot of opportunity. But maybe I know the Bears

572
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: have really hyped him up. I mean, everything coming out

573
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: of Chicago is how much they love him right now,

574
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 1: and so it is how can he get or can

575
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: he compete with Khalil Herbert, I think is gonna be

576
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: the big question there. You know, I think you've got

577
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: Foreman as the frontline guy. Can Johnson take opportunities away

578
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: from Khalil Herbert and that will determine how much he

579
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: gets on the field in his rookie year. But at

580
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: least for now, everything coming out of Chicago's about how

581
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: much they love this guy, and so we'll see if

582
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: that makes a difference some other running backs that were drafted,

583
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Speaker 1: Evan Hull goes to the Colts, Zach Evans comes to

584
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to play for the Rams, Dwayne McBride to

585
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Anything that you want to say about any

586
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: of these guys here.

587
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: Like like Hall and Evans compete to be the backups there.

588
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: I think McBride it all determines what happens with Dalvin Cook.

589
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: I think these are more like in a rookie draft,

590
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: like late round.

591
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Speaker 1: Dart thrones to yeah pick, These are kind of into

592
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: draft guys that maybe you take a shot on. I

593
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: know a lot of people felt like cam Akers sort

594
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: of dodged some bullets in the in the draft because

595
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: the Rams didn't add anything there.

596
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: I tweeted that he was a winner, and people were like,

597
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: but they added Zach Evans. I'm like, Okay, they added

598
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: a depth piece, like hey, they're gonna do that. They

599
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: didn't use a premium pick on a running back.

600
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know. I think I think if

601
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: you're if you're cam Akers, you should be feeling quite

602
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: all right. I mean, they spent a sixth round pick

603
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: on a running back. Not a lot of draft capital,

604
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: right there. Take a quick break come back as a

605
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: slew of wide receivers and a handful of tight ends

606
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: to talk about. We will dive into those next on

607
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Looking at some of the

608
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers who came off the board in Day two

609
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: and Day three of the draft. Jalen Hyatt goes to

610
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. They just they just have

611
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: so many wide receivers and most of them are slot guys. Hyatt,

612
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: maybe one of the big knocks on him is that

613
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily line up on the ball a whole

614
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: lot that Tennessee did a lot to kind of give

615
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: him space, give him the ability to get off the line.

616
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: So we need to see can he line up and

617
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: play outside? Can he win one on one? Can he

618
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: win in press coverage? What are you doing about Giants

619
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Speaker 1: wide receivers because they all seem kind of similar right now.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm drafting Darren Waller as my tight end where

621
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Speaker 2: I can, because he still goes outside the top five

622
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Speaker 2: tight ends in a lot of places, it seems. After

623
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Speaker 2: for the actual receivers, the ones that I have interested

624
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: in are Wandel Robinson as like a late round pick

625
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: just because I think he can operate as their lead

626
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Speaker 2: slot receiver. And I would take a dart throw on

627
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt, especially in best Ball, but I think that

628
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: he might not start Week one. We know coaches like

629
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: to make rookies earn it and stuff as the season

630
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: goes on, but I could see him quickly steal one

631
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: of those outside jobs being a Because the Giants lack

632
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: perimeter speed explosiveness, they had by far the fewest attempts, completions,

633
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: and yards on passes of twenty plus air yards last year.

634
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a Daniel Jones thing. I think it's more

635
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: that they didn't have a receiver who could get open

636
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: twenty yards downfield in time for Daniel Jones to get

637
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: the ball out of his hand. Jalen Hyatt brings everything

638
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: that they need. I thought of the Day two receivers.

639
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: He wasn't my favorite of the receivers, but this was

640
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: my favorite fit for fantasy purposes.

641
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Speaker 1: I would have loved to see Howatt go to like

642
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers or something like that would have been fun.

643
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: But I you know, my concern is you got a

644
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: team last that last year, the Giants, they were sort

645
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Speaker 1: of bottom portion of the league when it came to

646
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: passing employer percentage. Right, they didn't throw the ball a ton.

647
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: They were a lot more run heavy than a lot

648
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: of other offenses. And now you look at this depth

649
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: chart and you know they got Hyatt. They brought back

650
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepard. You mentioned Wandale Robinson, Darius Slayton's gonna get time,

651
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgen's Flash the Times Black Year, they go out

652
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: on the ad, Paris Campbell as well. You know, aside

653
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: from Darren Waller, you're looking at a handful of guys

654
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: that could get anywhere from you know, ten to fifteen

655
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: percent of the targets in an offense that doesn't throw

656
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: the ball a whole lot. It just makes it hard.

657
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: And you know, Hyatt, I think is a I always

658
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: hate it. I know it sounds like a cop out.

659
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: He's a good best ball guy. I mean, I feel

660
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: like that's his opportunity. If he can play outside, if

661
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: he can use that speed to get downfield and hit

662
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: the occasional big play, I think that's sort of where

663
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: his success is going to live. But man, just I

664
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe the Giants move on from a couple

665
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: of these guys before the season starts. Otherwise I don't.

666
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't really know what's happening here.

667
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: That's fine, Like that's why I like Hyatt the most,

668
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: because I'm like, if I'm gonna take a gamble on

669
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: one of these receivers, why not go with the guy

670
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: who has the most at least in my opinion, I

671
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: think he has the most upside.

672
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: No, I think that's fair. I mean, especially because we've

673
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: seen you know, we've seen Sterling Shepard at this point,

674
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: We've seen Slayton, we've seen Paris Campbell. We sort of

675
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: know what these guys are, So why not take the

676
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: shot on the guy who you know offers us a

677
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: fresh opportunity somewhere.

678
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: But it really sounds like Darren Waller or bus.

679
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: It's pretty much Darren Waller. I mean, you're drafting Sakuan.

680
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: You're drafting Darren Waller. After that, good luck. Jonathan Mingo

681
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: goes to the Carolina Panthers, And I know Mingo was

682
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: a guy that was sort of polarizing. I think, you know,

683
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: some scouts and some analysts really liked him, some really didn't.

684
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: But he goes to a team that is there a

685
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: true number one in Carolina?

686
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: Nope, I don't think so. Like I think on paper

687
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: you would say Adam Thielen, but I have not been

688
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: a big Adam thlen guy for a few years now.

689
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: I think his best days are behind him. My only

690
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: concern is because I think Jonathan Mingo, I know he

691
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: played a little bit out wide and in the slot

692
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: in college. I think he's at his best as a

693
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: big slot guy. I actually comped him to Juju when

694
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 2: I was watching him, not early career Juju, though, like

695
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: doj you like, yeah, not gonna be burning you downfield

696
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but could be a good hands receiver,

697
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: win after the catch, because I think he's best in

698
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: the slot. That's also where Adam Feeling is. So it

699
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me if, like early in the year, Mingo

700
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: is struggling a little bit to get consistent snaps and

701
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: targets and then he kind of breaks out as the

702
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: year goes on. I would if I'm the Panthers, I

703
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: would love to be like, hey, develop with a franchise

704
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: quarterback here and just you two are the future. But

705
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: I think it could be a situation where it's a

706
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: slow start and then he heats up as we go on.

707
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: I do think a lot of these rookies are gonna

708
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: be drafted and then dropped and then someone else will

709
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: pick them up and get the best results out of them.

710
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: That seems kind of fair. I mean, I think when

711
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: you look at the wide receivers especially, and we talked

712
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: about this after Night One, that it seemed like a

713
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: lot of them landed in spots where they have a

714
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: lot of competition in terms of getting targets. Mingo, I

715
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: don't think, really has quite as much competition. I mean,

716
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: when you talk about DJ Chark and Adam Thee and

717
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: Terris Marshall, I mean, I think Mingo can compete with

718
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: all those guys. Talking with Dwayne McFarland just the other

719
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: day and he was pointing out that Mingo's a guy

720
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: that I think immediately you sort of look at the Panthers,

721
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: and you're like, eh, you know, he doesn't immediately excite you.

722
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: But then you start looking at a lot of the

723
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: other receivers that were drafted, you know, around where he

724
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: was or after where he was, and just based on

725
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: sort of landing spot, he looks a little bit more attractive.

726
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: When it comes to to rookie dynasty drafts. You know

727
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: immediately there's nothing about him that that says that screams

728
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: like you gotta have him. But compared to some of

729
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: the options, you're like, oh yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll

730
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: go Jonathan Mingo.

731
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: I have seen a lot of and I don't I'm

732
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: not gonna put anyone on blast here, but I've seen

733
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people being like, Jonathan Mingo fell to

734
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: a great spot. He's the rookie receiver you want to draft,

735
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, these are people who haven't watched Jonathan Mingo.

736
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 2: Like I got excited for him. I like Jonathan Mingo.

737
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: I think he fell to a good spot, but he's

738
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: not suddenly gonna be like a winner. And rookies tend

739
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: to get over hyped this time of year, but he's

740
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: certainly won.

741
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: Getting a lot of hygh brainds well, I think some

742
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: of it is. And I'm sure you saw the tweets, right,

743
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: old miss receivers that got drafted in the second round, right,

744
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was DK Metcalf, it was aj Brown,

745
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: it was Elijah Moore, it's Jonathan Mingo. But yeah, no,

746
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: I think when you look at those other guys, when

747
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: you look at Metcalf and Brown, I mean those two

748
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: guys played together first of all, and still both put

749
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: up big time production. Elijah Moore was a big time producer.

750
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: Mingo never had production on that same level as those

751
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: other guys. So, yes, they were all drafted in the

752
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: second round. I don't think that that necessarily means they're

753
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: all going to produce at the same level. In the NFL,

754
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid goes to the Green Bay Packers and hey, look,

755
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers had one of the Packers through draft wide

756
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: receivers for a long time. So the Packers around and

757
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: the last couple of years they've drafted wide receivers to

758
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: bet Aaron Rodgers isn't there anymore. So now they got

759
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid to go along with Christian Watson who was

760
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: outstanding last year, Romeo Dobbs, who started hot and sort

761
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: of faded. Rank those three guys for me, Reid, Watson,

762
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: and Dobbs.

763
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Watson, Reid, Dobbs. But I will say

764
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm very exciting for excited for the pairing of Watson

765
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: and Reed because Red to me, is a really strong

766
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: route runner. He could get open on the short intermediate

767
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: part of the field, struggles a little bit the further

768
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: from the line of scrimmage he gets. Watson is the

769
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: exact opposite of that. Watson takes a top off the defense.

770
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: So I think they're really good young pairing. You pair

771
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: them with Jordan Love. The Packers got a good young

772
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: corps on offense, I think. But for fantasy purposes, I'm

773
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: gonna take the super explosive option Christian Watson.

774
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: I like Watson a little bit more than Reid. I

775
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: think Dobbs is number three for me, But I have

776
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: seen some chatter that people think Reid could be better.

777
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: Than Front of the show. I don't know if you've said.

778
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: About Matt Harmon, it was a big for the show.

779
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon and his running partner over Yahoo, Andy Barons,

780
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: both saying that they think Jayden Reid could be better

781
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: than Christian w Udson. You know, I wish Harmon had

782
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: had tweeted that out before I saw him over the weekend,

783
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: because then I could have asked him about it after

784
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: a couple of beers. But yeah, I do think here's

785
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: the thing. I think both Reid and Watson can certainly

786
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: be viable in fantasy, even in redraft leagues this year.

787
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: We know Watson can be. I think Reid can be

788
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: as well. The Packers don't need, or at least we

789
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: don't need from fantasy. We don't need Jordan Love to

790
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: be great. We just need him to not be awful, right,

791
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: We just need him to not be you know, Zach

792
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: Wilson level he as long as he's competent, then both

793
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Reid and Watson can be I think productive in this

794
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay offense for fantasy, Michael Wilson goes to the

795
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. I know you like Michael Wilson as a

796
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: sleeper this year. There are a lot of guys there

797
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: in that offense still right as of the moment, DeAndre

798
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: Hopkins is still there, Marquis Brown is still there, ron

799
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: Dell Moore is still there. Zach Ertz at some points

800
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna get healthy and be back there again. So there's

801
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: a lot of places to go with the football. Who

802
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: ends up being sort of the odd man out if

803
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: Wilson's gonna get an opportunity and doesn't even matter if

804
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: it's not Kyler Murray throwing the ball.

805
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I mean, Colt McCoy and the cast

806
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: that they had at quarterback last year, tank the value

807
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: of d hop and Mark He's Brown, And as much

808
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: as I like Wilson as a sleeper, he's not on

809
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: there and he's the odd man out if DeAndre Hopkins

810
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: comes back. I think where Michael Wilson becomes a sleeper

811
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: is if they do move on from DeAndre Hopkins, which

812
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: I thought was a lock before the draft, and I'm

813
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 2: very much so worried that he's gonna end up getting

814
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: another year wasted of his career right now with the Cardinals.

815
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: But Michael Wilson is a receiver that has size, could

816
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: play as an X which was rare in this class,

817
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: could play in the slot. He just couldn't stay healthy

818
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: at college, played fourteen games in his final three seasons.

819
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: So he's a receiver that I keep saying like, if

820
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 2: he stayed healthy, I think we would be talking about

821
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: him a whole lot more. But it's just a matter

822
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: of like how much can this guy give us at

823
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: the next level. But yeah, it if it's no Kyler

824
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: Murray and it's de Hopp and Marquis Brown are there,

825
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: he's not even viable and then redrafted.

826
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: That's I think sort of the thing right now is

827
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: that I in redraft. I'm staying away just because you know,

828
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: we aren't gonna see Murray for much of the year.

829
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a chance we don't see him at

830
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: all this year if the Cardinals end up being bad,

831
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: potentially in the quarterbacks behind him Colt McCoy, as you mentioned,

832
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: Jeff Driscold, David Blough and they spent the fifth round

833
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: pick on Clayton Tune.

834
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: If I told you there was like an XFL quarterback room,

835
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: you'd probably believe me.

836
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much, pretty much, you know. So that's potentially

837
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: who's throwing the football in Arizona. And like I mentioned,

838
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: Nuke's still there. It's going to be an uphill climb

839
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: for Michael Wilson at least in his rookie year. Now,

840
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. You know, if the Cardinals make

841
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: some moves, but it's going to be tough for him.

842
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, Rashid Weiss Rashie Rice goes to

843
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. We always get excited about receivers

844
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: that go to a Patrick Mahomes offense. I'm in was

845
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: it last week two weeks ago on this show that

846
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: the track record of the Chiefs drafting wide receivers not great.

847
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: They hit on Tyreek Hill and nobody expected Tyreek Hill

848
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: to be the guy that he has become. He was

849
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: what a fifth round pick who's turned into one of

850
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: the top receivers in the league. Nobody predict that. Beyond that,

851
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: they have struggled when it comes to the position, but

852
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: they also have and I looked at this yesterday. Currently

853
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: twelve guys listed at wide receiver on their roster, right,

854
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they got your guy, Kadarius Tony, They've got

855
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: Justin Ross, they have John Ross, which is amazing they

856
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: do right, They've got they got all these guys, I mean,

857
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Marquez Valdez, Scantly, so many guys Sky Moore last year.

858
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: Can Rice stand out enough to actually make an impact

859
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: in this offense? Knowing that you know Travis Kelsey's gonna

860
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: hoover up about thirty to forty percent of the targets.

861
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but I'm not gonna stop people

862
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: from hyping him up because he the Chiefs traded up

863
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: to get him on Day two and ever since then,

864
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: I've seen people saying good things about Rashid Rice. And

865
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: I do think he fits this modern day Chiefs offense

866
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: because he's a good after the catch receiver. He's very physical,

867
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: but I think he's extremely raw. Like his route running

868
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: needs work, his hands needs work, his downfield play needs work.

869
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: Sounds a lot like other receivers the Chiefs have drafted.

870
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: They they they draft athletes at this position. They don't draft,

871
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: you know, technicians, so and they hope to teach them

872
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: that and I think Rashide Rice fits that mold. But

873
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: Chiefs receivers this year it's gonna be a fun game

874
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: of like choose your fighter, because they don't have a

875
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: clearcut wide receiver one. But they have a bunch of

876
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: guys that I think are gonna get fantasy hype, Like

877
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: obviously Kadarius Tony's gonna get some hype. Sky Moore has

878
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: like a whole hive of people on Twitter who hype

879
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: him up. Justin Watson has I'm sorry, Justin Ross has

880
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: some hype on Twitter, and then Rashid Rice is gonna

881
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm team Kadarius Tony all the way. I think he'll

882
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: be there one as long as he's healthy. Uh, but yeah,

883
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a fun experiment watching these Chiefs adp

884
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: all summer long.

885
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Rice at the right spot. I know

886
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: in some best Ball drafts he's going around somewhere fifteen

887
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: to or fourteen to sixteen, somewhere in that range. So

888
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: you're not really risking a lot if you're drafting him,

889
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: And I think at that point it's fine. If the

890
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: hype exceeds that, I might be out on him even

891
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. By the way, what what has happened

892
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: to the me Cole Hardman hive now that he's no

893
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: longer in Kansas City? Is it's still a thing.

894
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna be competing for time with the

895
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: ghost of Randall Cobb this year.

896
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: Man. I mean, Rogers is just I mean, it's like

897
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: you know in elementary school kickball, where you're like, I

898
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: only come to your team if you take my friend.

899
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Like that's pretty much Aaron Rodgers. He goes to the Jets,

900
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: he brings the.

901
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: USC version of DeMar DeRozan.

902
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's funn Yeah, it's funny. So for people

903
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: who don't know this, I've talked about this privately around

904
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: here USC USC basketball. You know, they got DeMar de

905
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Rozan for the one year that he came before he

906
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: went to the NBA. And the reason that they were

907
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: able to get DeMar Derozen is because they had to

908
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: recruit Little Romeo. It's right, uh, Romeo Miller aka Percy

909
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Miller's kid. They were friends in high school and SC

910
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: wanted DeMar Derozen. They thought he was a top recruit,

911
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: which he was. He said, I will come to your

912
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: school if you hire, if you recruit, not hire. He

913
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: recruit my friend Little Romeo and bring him. And pretty

914
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: much after Damar got drafted and left USC, Miller said,

915
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: like I'm out to Romeo's like I'm done.

916
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: I just pulled up his college stats. He attempted four

917
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: field goals.

918
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: That's more than I would I would have guessed. He

919
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: pretty much only played when the game was a blowout

920
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: one way or another. That was kind of the only

921
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: time he actually got on there.

922
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: He did it, says two seasons, nineteen minutes, five point scored.

923
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: Wow, he actually played two seasons. That is amazing. Won

924
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: this whole time, I am I really thought it was one.

925
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 1: This whole time, I am learning so much more about

926
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: Low Romeo's college basketball career.

927
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite fun facts.

928
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to the USA. If you if you guys decided

929
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: to bring in Low Romeo, I do remember. I think

930
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: it was at Polly Pavilion, either the poly Pavilion or

931
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: at Stanford, where somebody held up a sign that said,

932
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: lil bow Wow is better? All right, back to what

933
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: we're doing here. Marvin Mems goes to the Denver Broncos

934
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Broncos right now, saying they have no plans to move

935
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: on from Courtland Sutton or Jerry Judy. There was a

936
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: lot of chatter that one of those guys at least

937
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: could be moved, but it appears that they're both gonna

938
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: stay there. kJ Hamler just had surgery. He's expected to

939
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: be out for the next four to six months, but

940
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: Tim Patrick is also returning. Are there enough quality targets

941
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: and I emphasize quality just because last year Russ struggled

942
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: at least under Nathaniel Hackett. It got better once Hackett

943
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: was fired, but we still have questions. Is Russ cooked.

944
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: Are there enough quality targets for Marvin Mims to be

945
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: viable this year?

946
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so, not year one at least. I

947
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: like Marvin Mims a lot great field stretcher play outside

948
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: in the slot a little bit. His best used as

949
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: a field stretcher. My thinking year one is that they

950
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: drafted their new kJ Hamler. Hamler was always their wide

951
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: receiver four who would get mixed in at times. They

952
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: would use him whenever they wanted to take a deep shot,

953
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: like he was out there. I could see Marvin Mims

954
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: playing that role. But obviously Judy and Sutton are ahead

955
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: of him, and they're going to be in all two

956
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: wide receiver sets. Tim Patrick coming off of an injury, yes,

957
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: but he was very good before he got hurt, and

958
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: he's a coach's favorite, so I expect him to be

959
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: out there on most three wide receiver sets. Mims someone

960
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: that I think year one will just be a better

961
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: real life piece for the Broncos. But year two, depending

962
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: what this wide receiver room looks like, they're they're definitely

963
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: his opportunity there.

964
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: I think what for Marvin Mims is being the guy

965
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: for this regime. Neither Sutton nor Judy, you know, they

966
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: were neither one were drafted by Sean Payton and this

967
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: front office, Marvin Mims is one of their guys, and

968
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: so I think that means they give him some opportunities

969
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: to go out there and make plays. I like Courtland Sutton,

970
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: but you know, at this point, I don't think the

971
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: big breakout is coming now. I just I'm not sure

972
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. I think there's still a chance for

973
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: it to happen for Judy. But you know, Sutton's a

974
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: nice player. He's had one one thousand yard season, He's

975
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: only had one season with more than four touchdowns. I

976
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: just don't know that it's really gonna happen for him

977
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: in a big way. If they want to spread the

978
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: field a little bit more, if they want to throw

979
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more, which is certainly possible

980
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: under Sean Payton, I think, you know, I think you

981
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: could see Mims get on the field and some three

982
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: wide receiver sets get some opportunities there. But again, all

983
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: of this really sort of hinges on. So Wilson not

984
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: being washed. Yeah, if he's washed, then I think we

985
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: throw this all out the window.

986
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: Nothing matters.

987
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: It just really doesn't matter anymore. Tank Dell goes to Houston,

988
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: and I was gonna ask a question about opportunity versus talent,

989
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: but I think there's a case where it's both here,

990
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: right I mean, Dell's second round pick, a guy with

991
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: explosive speed. I know people are worried sort of about

992
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: his frame, his size, but in terms of talent, it

993
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: seems to be there. And we talked before. Aside from

994
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: Nico Collins, there's really nothing in his way. I know

995
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: right now he's sort of listed his number two on

996
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: the depth chart behind Robert Woods. I could see that

997
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: sort of changing. So you got Nico Collins, You've got

998
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 1: John Metchi back after battling leukemia for a year. Tank

999
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: Dell really could get a chance to make an impact

1000
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: on a team that needs playmakers right now.

1001
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly think so, especially when you hear that

1002
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: it was CJ. Stroud who was asking them to get

1003
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: Tank Dell and bring him in. And another cool draft

1004
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: story like Tank Dell, who played at the University of Houston,

1005
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 2: sent the Texans a message back in December and said,

1006
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: don't let me leave the city, and then they ended

1007
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: up drafting him. I thought that was a really cool story.

1008
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: My only concern one is that the Texans are going

1009
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: to be super hard to figure out, at least early on.

1010
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 2: I think, because like you said, there's no clear cut

1011
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: receiver that stands out. It's also new play, new coaches

1012
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: and stuff. So my thinking is it wouldn't surprise me if,

1013
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: like the first couple of weeks, if Robert Woods plays

1014
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: over tankd Dell just because he's the veteran and all

1015
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: of that. But I expect Tank Dell at this point

1016
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: of their careers to kind of win out. But yeah,

1017
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 2: that's my only concern with him, really is if Robert

1018
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 2: Woods is going to get the first crack just because

1019
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: he's Robert Woods.

1020
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: And the veteran and all that. I mean I think

1021
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: he does. I think he's gonna be the starter at

1022
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. But I do think Dell's

1023
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of opportunity before the season plays out.

1024
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you're the Texans, and you made some moves,

1025
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: You've got a lot, but there's still not a real contender.

1026
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: So why not at some point start working your young

1027
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: guys in and seeing what can happen, you know, I mean,

1028
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: I know Demiko Ryans wants to come in and change

1029
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: the culture and win right away. I think some of

1030
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: that means getting your young guys out there and giving

1031
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: them a shot. Cedric Tillman to the Browns. This is

1032
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: one that I really liked because you've got you've got

1033
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 1: a MARII Cooper there, and you know that he's gonna

1034
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: get his targets. But they bring in Elijah Moore into trade.

1035
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: But there's a chance, I think for Cedric Tillman to

1036
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: get on the field, I think the Browns are gonna

1037
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: throw the football a whole lot more this year. I

1038
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: think he has some sneaky kind of late round value

1039
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: as long as Deshaun Watson can sort of regain his

1040
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: on field form this.

1041
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: Year, I completely agree. And my thinking with this one

1042
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: was he's the opposite of Amari Cooper. Now like you

1043
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: have Elijah Moore in the slot, you have David and

1044
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: Joku as your tight end, you have Amari Cooper as

1045
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: your one, and now Tilman on the opposite side. My

1046
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: only concern is because Tilman is at his best at

1047
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: like comeback routes and short intermedia game. He could win downfield,

1048
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: but it's not his strength, whereas Donovan Peoples Jones is

1049
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: kind of the opposite, like he is the field stretcher

1050
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: who struggles in the other area of the game. So

1051
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: I wonder if, at least early on, if we see

1052
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: like a rotation between Tillman and DPJ. But I think

1053
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: Tilman is the better player of the two. And if

1054
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, let's say, was to miss time Tillman, I

1055
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: think would it is the best candidate to be their

1056
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: new top receiver and lead target getter.

1057
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: I think so. I think, I mean, I think, I

1058
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: just think there's such an opportunity here. And everything the

1059
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: Browns have done suggests that they want to be more

1060
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: pass heavy this year, right. I mean, they've gone all

1061
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: in obviously on Deshaun Watson in terms of the contract.

1062
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: You know, they go get Elijah More, they draft Tillman.

1063
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna see this team just try to

1064
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: air it out a whole lot more so that means

1065
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: that there will be targets to be had, and I

1066
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: think Tilman really does have some opportunity. And again, I

1067
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: mean like a lot of these guys. When you're talking

1068
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: best ball dry right now, you're not spending a lot

1069
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: of draft capital for these guys. You're looking late double

1070
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: digits for some of these guys. At this point, Josh

1071
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: Dallens goes to the Colts. And this is the guy

1072
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: who slipped on a lot of NFL draft boards, fell

1073
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: down quite a bit into the third round. I don't

1074
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: think anybody anticipated that happening. He goes to Indianapolis. For

1075
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: as much as we're excited about Anthony Richardson, it's not

1076
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: necessarily because of his ability as a passer. So you've

1077
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: got a team with Richardson and Jonathan Taylor where they're

1078
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: going to run the ball a lot. You've got an

1079
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: established wide receiver one in Michael Pittman. I don't see

1080
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: a ton of upside and redraft for Josh downs right now.

1081
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: Sadly, I'm with you. I don't think the Colts are

1082
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: gonna throw the ball a whole lot. And when they do,

1083
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior is obviously the top target. Alec Pierce

1084
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: can show a lot, and then they brought in Isaiah McKenzie,

1085
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: who I think was exposed last year as a full

1086
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: time slot player, but is a really good, like situational

1087
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: weapon like he I don't think he could be a

1088
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: full every snap type of receiver, but I don't think

1089
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: he's just fully gonna go away either. So my thinking was,

1090
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: like we probably see a McKenzie and Downs rotation at

1091
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: least early on. Downs is more someone I could see

1092
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: maybe popping off the waiver wire later in the season

1093
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: if someone gets hurt or something like that. But to start,

1094
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: I think there's just other pieces that like. I like

1095
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 2: Josh Down a lot compared coming into the NFL draft,

1096
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: but knowing their landing spot, I'd probably take all of

1097
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: the receivers, maybe not Marvin Memes, but besides that, everyone

1098
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: else over him.

1099
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just, I mean, I think I think Downs

1100
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: just I don't know. It's a bad situation for him

1101
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: fantasy wise, going to Indianapolis until we figure out more

1102
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: of what Anthony Richardson is as a passer. If he

1103
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: develops and looks like he can support multiple pass catchers,

1104
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: then great, But as of now what we know about him,

1105
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that I want any part of of

1106
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: Josh Downs in fantasy. Some of the other guys were drafted.

1107
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Puka Nakua comes to the Rams, Xavier Hutchinson to the

1108
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Texans at Perry to the Saints, anybody that jumps out

1109
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: at you here.

1110
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 2: I think they're all depth pieces. But Poka Nakua is

1111
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: getting some hype, is like after the catch kind of

1112
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: guy with the Rams. So just I think he's the

1113
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: most interesting purely because of how much open opportunity there

1114
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: are with the Rams right now.

1115
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Cooper Cup and kind of everybody else,

1116
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: so so maybe maybe there's an opportunity there. Finally, we

1117
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: got to tie the tight ends. Uh, not a draft

1118
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: pick specifically, but Adam Troutman gets traded to the Denver Broncos.

1119
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: So Juan Johnson to the moon or maybe the upper atmosphere.

1120
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: At least I think so. And I did a draft

1121
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: the other day, a post NFL draft draft, and he

1122
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: was the eighth tight end. It was obviously you know,

1123
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: there's there's Kelsey Hawkinson, Andrews Goddard, Kittle, Kittle Waller and uh,

1124
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: and there was one other one I'm forgetting, and then

1125
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: it was him to me. I look at the tight

1126
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: end position and I think there's a clear cut seven,

1127
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: even though I'm forgetting one of the seven right now.

1128
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: But he went right after that, and I don't really

1129
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: see any reason to get upset about it. Like last year,

1130
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 2: there was a stretch where he was kind of touchdown

1131
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 2: or bus but the final like six weeks of the season,

1132
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: he was a big, big part of their passing game there.

1133
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: And clearly they feel confident in him. Because every website

1134
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: or anything had tight end as a need for the Saints.

1135
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: Not only did they not draft a tight end, they

1136
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: traded their other tight ends. So I think, to me

1137
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 2: that shows how much confidence they have in Johnson.

1138
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: And I mean throwing the fact that, yes, Darren Waller is,

1139
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a high level tight end. But

1140
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: Derek Carr obviously has no problem involving the tight end

1141
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: in the passing game. So he's got a he's got

1142
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback that likely will feed him the football. Any

1143
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: chance for Troutman, any interest in him now that he's

1144
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: in Denver.

1145
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: There no. But he is reuniting with Sean Payton, which

1146
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: worries me a little. It doesn't to me, I think

1147
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: this is one of those situations where it doesn't help Troutman,

1148
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: but it hurts Greg Dulci.

1149
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's probably the best thing to think about

1150
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: it because Dulcis was really good last year and now

1151
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: you're bringing in a guy that is familiar with the offense.

1152
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: You wonder how much he gets on the field maybe

1153
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: to kind of take away from some of those opportunities

1154
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: onto the guys that were drafted. Though Michael Mayer goes

1155
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: to the Raiders. The Raiders had a weird tight end

1156
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: offseason because they trade Darren Waller away, They go out,

1157
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: they add Oj Howard, who admittedly has had his injury

1158
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: issues it can't stay on the field. They go get

1159
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper, who you know is probably on the downhill

1160
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: side of his career at this point, and then they

1161
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: draft Michael Mayer. But they got three guys in three

1162
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: that can get on the field right now and catch

1163
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: the football. Who is the Raiders tight end to draft?

1164
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: I would take a shot on mayor just upside like

1165
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: Hooper is at the twilight days of his NFL career.

1166
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: OJ Howard, every team just brings him into block nowadays,

1167
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: so I think Mayer it was drafted to be the

1168
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: Waller replacement, the pass catching tight end there. But as

1169
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: always with rookie like there's a lot of reasons to

1170
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: get excited for tight end in the long term, like

1171
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: it finally got the shot in the arm that it's

1172
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: needed for years. But outside of Kyle Pitt's, even the

1173
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: useful rookie tight ends like Pat Fryarmuth a couple of

1174
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: years ago, they don't hit usually until the second half

1175
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: of the season. So these rookie tight ends are nothing

1176
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: more in my opinion than tight end two's for fantasy purposes.

1177
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, you talk about like tight ends

1178
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: coming in, Darniel Washington maybe took the biggest hit of everybody.

1179
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he falls deep in the draft and he

1180
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: goes to Pittsburgh where he's gonna be stuck behind Pat Fryarmouth.

1181
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that we talked about

1182
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: could have sleep or potential to. Yeah, now he's off

1183
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: the board. He's just off the board, I think in

1184
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh there. Sam laporter goes to the Detroit Lions, and

1185
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: I had heard some chatter you may have heard this

1186
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: too before the draft, that he could potentially be the

1187
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: first guy drafted. Obviously they ended up being Dalton Kincaid

1188
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: going to the Buffalo Bills. But Laporta is in a

1189
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: situation where we like the offense. He's a talented player

1190
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: who did a lot of good things offensively, even at Iowa,

1191
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: which is an offensively challenged program. Right now, could he

1192
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: be the top fantasy rookie tight end this year, I.

1193
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: Think pretty easily. Like to me, it's between him and Kincaid,

1194
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: and especially he I know, I just said you have

1195
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: to be patient with these rookie tight ends. If any

1196
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: of them hit early on, I feel confident, well it'll

1197
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: be one of those two. But Laporta is in a

1198
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: really good spot because no Jamison Williams now for six weeks,

1199
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: so outside of a Monroe Saint Brown, it's kind of

1200
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: thin there. There's Josh Reynolds, Marvin Jones Junior, who's getting

1201
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: up there in age, Khalif Raymond, like Laporta could easily

1202
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: get a lot of targets, especially when you look at

1203
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: the tight ends behind him, Like remember the lines tight

1204
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: ends after they traded Hockinson. It's the same group of

1205
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: guys and Laporta.

1206
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, the tight end depth chart in Detroit isn't

1207
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: really all that exciting, so that I think helps Laporta

1208
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: get on the field. In fact, I'm seeing some places

1209
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: where they've got Laporta already listed as the tight end one.

1210
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean you can get brock Wright, Shane Zilstra, Derek

1211
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: Deese Junior. I mean these aren't.

1212
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: That helped No. One All Stars.

1213
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: That's pretty much what that is. So there's a chance

1214
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: the porter could get on the field right away. I

1215
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: still would sort of lean toward Kincaid into as the

1216
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: top rookie just because he has Josh Allen. But I

1217
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: think Laporta is in the conversation. I think he's gonna

1218
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: get chances to catch the football. As you mentioned, no

1219
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams for the first six weeks of the season,

1220
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: so it's it's gonna be Saint Brown. I guess Marvin

1221
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: Jones is gonna get some of these opportunities as well.

1222
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised, you know, I guess take

1223
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt, because even for these

1224
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: talented rookies, rookie tight ends always still take a little

1225
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: bit longer to progress. But I think laport is gonna

1226
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: get a lot of targets, relatively speaking. Early on, Luke

1227
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: Shoemaker goes to the Dallas Cowboys. They have a lot

1228
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: of pass catchers there, you know they've got that. They

1229
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: just picked up the option on CDEE LAMB. No surprise,

1230
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: they go get Brandon Cooks. You know Tony Pollard is

1231
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: going to get his opportunities. Michael Gallup, I guess is

1232
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: still there are there enough targets available for Shoemaker to

1233
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: be viable this year?

1234
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I do think he could be their

1235
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: best tight end, Like it's between him and Jake Ferguson.

1236
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: I could see Shoemaker winning out, and I tweeted that

1237
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: on draft night, like I'm excited for the landing spot

1238
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: from a tight end point of view. But yeah, there's

1239
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: a lot of pass catchers here. I would anticipate that

1240
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: he's one of those tight ends that early on doesn't

1241
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: see a whole lot of volume. Maybe could hit as

1242
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: the season goes on. With all of these rookie tight ends,

1243
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: I think you want them as tight end twos, and

1244
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: even if you draft them, you're gonna have to be

1245
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: patient a lot. Like what I said with the receivers,

1246
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 2: I would think a lot of these rookie tight ends

1247
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: end up being good on the team that didn't draft them.

1248
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think if you're looking at Shoemaker,

1249
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a waiverbier potential guy depending on how

1250
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: the things shake out. I don't know that I'm spending

1251
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: any picks on him in a redraft certainly, again, maybe

1252
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: you're talking end of draft, and if you're talking about

1253
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: best ball sort of situations there, you know he could

1254
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: be one of those guys because of the offense, because

1255
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys score that he could get some opportunities. But

1256
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that week to week you're gonna feel

1257
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: any real level of confidence about having Shoemaker in your lineup. There.

1258
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: Last one here, Luke Musgrave Tucker Kraft, both going to

1259
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. I think Musgrave maybe has more

1260
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: of an opportunity as a pass catcher than Craft does.

1261
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: But any real interest in either one of these guys.

1262
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: This year right now?

1263
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: No.

1264
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: And I was excited when they took Luke Musgrave, not

1265
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: for like redraft purposes right away, but just for dynasty.

1266
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: But then they drafted a tight end another tight end

1267
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: around later. And we've seen teams do this, and I

1268
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: know that the logic is, well, they took Musgrave first.

1269
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: He's the guy. Let's go back a few years ago

1270
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: to the Packers draft where they drafted Jamal Williams ahead

1271
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: of Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones won out and was the guy.

1272
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: So I think this is gonna be a Legit can't

1273
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: battle and because you have two rookie tight ends battling

1274
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: it out, they could cannibalize each other. With a team

1275
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: that has solid receivers and an unproven quarterback, Yeah, I'm

1276
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: going to pass on this situation.

1277
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just don't know that there's enough right

1278
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: now to sustain either one of these guys. I mean,

1279
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: we just talked about the three receivers between Jade and Reed,

1280
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs. You know it's going to

1281
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: be hard enough, I think for Jordan Love to sustain

1282
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: two of these guys, you know, forget adding a third

1283
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver and potentially a tight end. I just don't

1284
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be the opportunity there for that to happen.

1285
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: So I am sort of staying away from any of

1286
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: the Packers tight ends. We'll see how they developed, but

1287
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: right now, I don't know that I have much interest

1288
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: in them at all. Sore you go, that is a

1289
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: bulk of what happened Day two and three. I know

1290
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: there were some other guys out there that we didn't

1291
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: quite get to, but I feel like we covered the

1292
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: majority of it right this.

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01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean the end of day three is

1294
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: it's always fun, but it is a long day of drafting.

1295
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: Well, day three is kudos to you. If you said,

1296
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: and you watch every single pick on day three, you

1297
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: are absolutely a trooper and you deserve a lollipop or

1298
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: something like that. Next week we'll come back and we

1299
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: will talk about some of the veteran winners and losers

1300
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: from the draft, and we can get back to Florio's

1301
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: film festival. We had Desperado on tap, so maybe we'll

1302
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: get back to that one next week. I will say,

1303
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: and I think I talk to you about this because

1304
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: with with Fast X coming out in a couple of weeks,

1305
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to watch pulp pulp fiction.

1306
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: We've watched that already. Point break.

1307
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: Do you want to make that next week?

1308
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: We'll do Desperado for this week and then we'll do

1309
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: we'll do point Break for the week after because that'll

1310
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: lead us right up into Fast X. The reason I'm

1311
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: doing this is because I think I told you if

1312
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: you like the original Fast and Furious movie, you will

1313
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: like Point Break because it is the same movie. You

1314
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: just replace cars with surfing, and it's the same film.

1315
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: I know we're not talking about films too much right now,

1316
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: but have you finished your fast binge?

1317
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: I have gone through eight of the nine I have

1318
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: to watch. I have to watch f nine. Uh, and

1319
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: then I will be completely caught up.

1320
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: Do you start like Revenue Engine right now?

1321
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: It's weird because now every time like somebody zooms past me,

1322
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: I do kind of look. I'm like, what would what

1323
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: would dom Toureto do in this situation? And it probably

1324
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: would be like to drive his cart ridiculous speeds and

1325
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: do some kind of ridiculous stunts, and uh, yeah.

1326
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. As I know the movie is gonna be,

1327
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it, watch it like I am.

1328
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: They are. They have gotten, They've gotten increasingly more ridiculous,

1329
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: and like eight was way over the tops.

1330
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: I can't wait till you watch nine, because nine was

1331
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: actually the first one that I've watched, and I was like,

1332
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: I've watched eight of these and I say they're entertaining.

1333
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: This one is even too over.

1334
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: The top for me, okay, because eight was like way

1335
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: over the top, and I get to the point I'm

1336
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: just like giggling. I'm like, this is stupid, but I

1337
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: can't turn this off because I really am entertained.

1338
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: And so if you really want to take it to

1339
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: the next level, watch the spinoff with the.

1340
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: Hobs and Sea. Watch that one that is a superhero movie.

1341
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: That seems like it would be because they sort of

1342
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: made they've made Hobbs into kind of a superhero anyway.

1343
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: So he gets the suit that like is impenetrable and

1344
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: gives him like, like, it's a superhero movie. Yeah, I

1345
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: don't want to spoil it, but yeah, it's it's basically

1346
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: a superhero movie.

1347
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we will in honor of that, we

1348
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: will do Point Break in a couple of weeks. But

1349
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: next week Desperado, also because I want to break up

1350
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: our run of LA based movies, and Desperado is not

1351
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 1: based on Point Break Point Breaking of the Los Angeles movie,

1352
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: So break up that run before we get back into

1353
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: LA themed movie. So look forward to that next week.

1354
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: It should be a whole lot of fun as we

1355
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: get back to the film festival. But that I'll do it.

1356
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: For this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It

1357
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: was a beefy one, Stay happy, safe and healthy, do

1358
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: good and live well. Enjoy the week, everybody, and we'll

1359
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: talk to you next week.